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#534- “saltwater edition” Edition

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>>2860508

janny pls…

Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!
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First for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc.

Talk about fishin
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Went fishing for the first time since September, I guess this counts. The river hasn’t done down yet from the rain so it took some challenge to find a spot that looks still but oxygenated

I managed to find a bunch of gar hiding not far from where I snagged this lil guy but I’ll be damned those boys don’t give two shits about any of the bait I had. Granted I’ve never fished or even seen gar but I thought I’d at least try with the spinners I was using. Gonna stop by that spot with some crank and rattle bait next time
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by the way i stocked up on pics for the OP, bunch of them more spicy than others, you guys prefer mild or spicy?
also got some nsfw i can make safe by sticking the bass pro shop logo on the not safe parts
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>>2863247
Just keep in mind you're in a SFW board..
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>>2863248
worry not, i'll inflict no nipple on you guys
just asking how much fanservice you guys want
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>>2863249
Just keep it less suggestive than these adverts we’ve ween lately. Pin up is fine, positional is a bit much
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>>2863249
Mods let a vag slip in the OP a few threads ago. Not sure if they didn't catch it or didn't care. As long as it's not too obvious, I don't think anyone cares. Worst case, you catch a three day ban.

>>2863251
I've had nothing but "lusty chat bot" ads in this supposedly "sfw" forum for months. I guess if they do it, it's fine.
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>>2863247
Sir, I'm here for the fish. I'm not looking for who-ers.
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Thank you fellas for the good information in the earlier thread. I can't wait to try out the suggestions, I have one more though. When looking at potential fishing spots what do you guys do in terms of pre scouting the areas? Do you look at free online depth charts + Google maps? I fish from the bank so I don't think depth charts would be much use to me
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>>2863259
it's still useful to know the depth...
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This one has a tramp stamp, BBL, and fake tits. Gross!
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>>2863254
I wanted to check this out but can't find an archive that includes /out/.
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>>2863259
>online depth charts + Google maps
Only if im doung boat or ice stuff, bank fishing i just look for access and whats available is whats available. Gpsnauticalcharts (dot com) is a decent free resource
>>2863245
It looks like that fish tried to eat. Bass tend to try to attack the head and the "head" of that lure is at that fish's mouth, though it technically is a foul hook.
Id count it personally
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>>2863259
> online depth charts + Google maps?
Google earth is better than google maps for looking for fishing spots. I only use it to find small bodies of water that I don't know about, or find trails I can use to hike in to places some times.

>I fish from the bank so I don't think depth charts would be much use to me
I've been bank only fishing for a few years, knowing where deep holes are still helps if you can reach them. You can also pre scout areas you want to fish by going out on low water days to find submerged cover to then fish later when the water levels are back up.
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alberto vs fg for braid to mono leader on ultra light? is it really worth learning the fg cause it looks hard as fuck
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>>2863276
I use the fg on ultralight stuff but ultralight to me is 8lb mono and 10lb braid
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>>2863257
>>2863263
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>>2863259
> https://www.genesismaps.com/socialmap
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>>2863276
i only use alberto regardless of size of the line, by far best mono to braid knot in actual practice
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>>2863276
I use an FG for 15lb braid to 6-8lb mono when I'm using lures, it's not as hard as it looks and I have fucked up hands. I've only had it fail once and that's because I tied it bad and didn't just cut and retie.
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>>2863276
fg knot doesn't scale down well. the lighter you go in line test the higher modulus the leader material has to be because of the way bending vs tensile strength scales. since this information isn't even available when shopping for line, you'll not know for instance if 6lb of one line is viable for fg vs 10lb from another without testing it.
If it worked regardless of stiffness you'd be able to tie braid to braid fg knots. try that, it will just turn into one big ball.
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>>2863259
Navionics (now Garmin) map viewer has good depth charts, but they keep burying the url I'm guessing because giving it away eats into their sales. Like >>2863268 says Google Earth is honestly better for shore anglers. The exception being if you see that an area that has easy access is just a giant shallow swamp it might save you some time not bothering.

>>2863276
Fg is the best knot hands down, it just comes at the expense of time. Tying a good fg is tedious and I'll give my whole routine to explain why

Rod up in a holder so I can use the flex to hold tension, braid wrapped around non dominant pinky so I can tie with my other fingers. Mono in dominant hand do the over/under to get anywhere between 10-20 wraps- this will depend on the specific lines being joined- then I'll do 2 half hitches, tighten with my teeth, then slide and roll the fg so it's all right and clean, then put on gloves so I can wrench it down until it darkens and impresses the mono. Gloves off, tie Rizzuto finish on the braid, gloves on, wrench until it darkens, and then trim with nail clippers. Takes a full 5 minutes.

Pic is 8lb mono joined to 6lb braid, I usually use 20lb braid, I've done it up to 100lb braid to weedwacker line for shark rigs.

I do this once every dozen trips or so. I like long leaders and I don't switch up lures/rigs that much.

>>2863285
Retard
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>>2863296
8 lb mono is not ultralight faggot
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FG is mostly a meme, it does have uses were it perform well, like thick lines for sea fishing or to have a thin knot for backing to mainline
but overall alberto perform just as good if not better depending on lines, and it's a lot easier to do
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>>2863296
i'm guessing that knot doesn't stay straight if you aren't stretching it with your thumb
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>>2863297
>>2863298
>>2863300
Holy shit I hope this is all the same retard spamming and that this thread isn't this full of clueless retards
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>>2863301
take your meds
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>>2863301
have you considered that you might be wrong?
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>>2863303
Have you considered if youre using anything bigger than #16 hooks theres no reason to use less than 6lb and even then you dont need 2lb until you get firmly in to the high 20s and low 30s
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>>2863305
so this rod in front of me, with 4lb mono being in the middle of it's line rating and 3/16oz in the middle of it's lure rating should use a hook so small you can't even fit a 1 inch bait on it. right... because that will totally cast well weighing less than a gram. Oh, maybe you meant to get an appropriately sized jighead... hmm, 1/16oz jigheads... they're all #4 hooks. weird, someone should tell them that they're doing it wrong
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What are the best cheap jigs for Keitechs or any flimsy soft plastic? I've used screwlocks and the standard type with a nub. I'm thinking wire keeper, but I'm not sure it will work well or if there are any favorite brands.
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line effects presentation on hardbaits heavily. especially things like suspending jerkbaits and crankbaits. jigs not as much.
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>>2863307
Holy strawman batman!
>wahh actual ultralight gear is too light for my ultralight
Skill issue git gud
>. . . Rated for 2 to 6 lb mono . . .
Yes, you should be using 6lb mono on that setup if you insist on using a mono mainline, and better yet you should be using 8 or 10 pound braid on that setup with a 6lb mono leader. Youll get better casting distance, better sensitivity, lose less lures, catch plenty of fish, be less prone to over-playing fish, and your jig will fish fine.
>>2863330
Ive been having decent luck with the cheap amazon jigs, i think the brand is infisheco or something similarly stupid
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>50MPH winds
I still went out and took a shot at fishing, not a single bite but I was also the only human for 400 acres and that felt nice.
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Thanks for the comments guys. I went with the alberto and I am happy as it resolved my issue of feeling the knot (double uni) through my guides. Perhaps the fg is 'better' but I'll stick with Mr. Alberto for now.
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>>2863330
wire keepers aren't great for anything that isn't elaztech
keitechs are soft as shit and its gonna get shredded to shit with them
that said, i generally stick with megabass okashira, mustad ultrapoint ball and great lakes finesse stealth ball
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>Go fishing
>Try every spot I can access, no bites
>Fuck it one more cast
>Wind takes my line over a tree
>30 minutes of hiking to get my waders, 15 minutes to find out there's a new 3 foot drop off in a spot where I could have easily walked last fall
>I am still wet
How was your mornings?
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>>2863347
>How was your mornings?
greasy
i'm slowly taking apart, cleaning decades old grease, putting new grease/oil, and putting back together a bunch of reels from the multigenerational pile of gear i got
put back together a galion12R yesterday, currently cleaning a luxor saumon mer 3LA, waiting for spare parts on a mitchell 324
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>>2863347
>How was your mornings?
Canseross and harmfull too my reproductal sistem.
I've been stocking lead weights.
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>>2863358
>Canseross
>reproductal sistem
ho no, the lead already got to his brain
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>>2863335
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
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>>2863374
I fail to see the relevance. Theres no reason to use less than 6lb mono on hooks bigger than a #16, andbespecially when you start getting up in to #4 hooks. Fuck ive caught fish using #14 nymphs and 12lb mono, it barely fit in the eye of the hook but it did fit and it worked great.
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>>2863376
find me a #16 or smaller hook on a 1/16 jig head
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>>2863377
A 1/16 ounce jig head isnt small, castings go down to 1/124th, even these 1/80th oz jigs on #10 hooks theres no reason to use less than 6lb, and id probably still rather throw it on 8 or even 10.
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>>2863377
>>2863379
This #16 jig fly is about where id start downsizing to 6 or 4, mostly just for concerns of what i can cram through the eye.
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>>2863377
>>2863379
>>2863380
>inb4 flies dont count
Throwing bead head and even weightless flies with bobbers, sometimes even clear ones to try to make them less visible to fish, is far from a new ultralight technique
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today 30 inches of pike
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>>2863381
You're overthinking it. This retard doesn't fish he just reads shit on line modulus and watches ifish suck his own dick while catching bluegills if he had any experience of their own you wouldn't need to explain this to them.
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>>2863159
I ended up replacing my 8lb mono with 10lb braid. I spent a few hours fishing, didnt see much difference but did practice casting for a while. I think it may be a timing issue because occasionally I could whip it 40 maybe 45 feet. I'm just eyeballing the distance but its clearly not going far. Gonna keep at it before I try another longer rod.
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>>2863402
Yeah no youre right
>>2863403
Are you sure the rod is loading and unloading properly?
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>>2863402
>This retard doesn't fish
he probably does, it doesn't require much ability or knowledge to do the most basic fishing, skid himself said he fish because he's somehow less retarded than fish, you're getting worked up over trivial things and look like an asshole
the guy don't want to hear your point? move on and that's it
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say, i wanted to do some surface fishing for pike with a frog, i've pondered trying to do one myself in wood or cork but it might actually cost me less for a better result to just get the rapala skitter frog off amazon
i was wondering since none of the proposed colors match the european green frog which one you guys would use colorwise
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I'm looking forward to warm weather.
I had an issue with my Renzetti vise. They sorted it out for me, and now, it's working much better. If it ever makes sense for you to buy a premium vise, I recommend them. Really nice product.
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>>2863407
Colour doesnt matter that much, just try to get in the ball park. Im not familiar woth the european green frog off the top of my head but i imagine a frog lure thats green will get close enough. Also consider black for particularly sunny days.
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>>2862646

I posted this last thread and wanted to try again in case anybody has experience there.
I was asking about fishing in Adirondack park wilderness areas in May.
Any responses appreciated
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hi what is the biiiiiiigest fish you've ever caught?

-[s4s]
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>>2863434
also do u eat the fishe or let him go?
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>>2863406
hey i'm not the one posting borderline unviable fg knots to stake some kind of claim that fg does scale down to ultralight.
Show me the braid to braid fg knot if you think stiffness doesn't matter.
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>>2863433
I don't think anyone here can provide the answers you seek.
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>>2863440
It was worth a shot. I didn't have much luck fishing last trip but had a great time so it doesn't really matter I guess
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>>2863353
Pics? Love old reels.

>>2863391
Nice fish! Our ice is finally over. Checked on the way home from work and the spud just fell through. I had some hope of one last pike trip before spring.

>>2863407
Anything seen from below in the water will appear black. Since you're looking for pike so fired up that they'll rocket out of the water I don't think color matters at all.

>>2863438
Retard
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>>2863405
>Are you sure the rod is loading and unloading properly?
Honestly I'm not sure. It doesnt feel right, it lacks a whip, very much feels like a pool noodle. I have examined for damage but I dont see anything.
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>>2863476
here's the 3LA i put back together today
i like it because it got an hybrid system with both bail and that spring wire thing to keep the line in the roller like some sea reels, can be used bailless
1/2
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>>2863476
here's a bunch of reel i have sitting, the galion12R i did the other day, it's a low cost brand of mitchell (when it was still french and good) very simple and minimalist design but not bad by any mean, and a bunch of mitchells and luxors, the 324 is missing the anti reverse switch because it was a fit in and probably fell off, replacement i found online got a screw to hold it so i assume mine is one of the earliest models
i got a second luxor model A and a second luxor supreme that are in a drawer taken apart waiting for me to buy some paint cleaner and new paint for them for a full restoration project
2/2
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it's itching me to start a real collection but that wouldn't be reasonable
from 40s to 60s there was so many different fishing reels in france, some with weird designs
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i mean look at this weird thing (not the frenchman)
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>>2863476
no argument? that's fine, I guess you gave up.



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