#534- “saltwater edition” EditionPrevious Thread:>>2860508 janny pls…Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtacklehttps://imgur.com/a/1Xw3NNew Bong Fishin Guidehttps://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTqFirst for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc.Talk about fishin
Went fishing for the first time since September, I guess this counts. The river hasn’t done down yet from the rain so it took some challenge to find a spot that looks still but oxygenatedI managed to find a bunch of gar hiding not far from where I snagged this lil guy but I’ll be damned those boys don’t give two shits about any of the bait I had. Granted I’ve never fished or even seen gar but I thought I’d at least try with the spinners I was using. Gonna stop by that spot with some crank and rattle bait next time
by the way i stocked up on pics for the OP, bunch of them more spicy than others, you guys prefer mild or spicy?also got some nsfw i can make safe by sticking the bass pro shop logo on the not safe parts
>>2863247Just keep in mind you're in a SFW board..
>>2863248worry not, i'll inflict no nipple on you guysjust asking how much fanservice you guys want
>>2863249Just keep it less suggestive than these adverts we’ve ween lately. Pin up is fine, positional is a bit much
>>2863249Mods let a vag slip in the OP a few threads ago. Not sure if they didn't catch it or didn't care. As long as it's not too obvious, I don't think anyone cares. Worst case, you catch a three day ban.>>2863251I've had nothing but "lusty chat bot" ads in this supposedly "sfw" forum for months. I guess if they do it, it's fine.
>>2863247Sir, I'm here for the fish. I'm not looking for who-ers.
Thank you fellas for the good information in the earlier thread. I can't wait to try out the suggestions, I have one more though. When looking at potential fishing spots what do you guys do in terms of pre scouting the areas? Do you look at free online depth charts + Google maps? I fish from the bank so I don't think depth charts would be much use to me
>>2863259it's still useful to know the depth...
This one has a tramp stamp, BBL, and fake tits. Gross!
>>2863254I wanted to check this out but can't find an archive that includes /out/.
>>2863259>online depth charts + Google mapsOnly if im doung boat or ice stuff, bank fishing i just look for access and whats available is whats available. Gpsnauticalcharts (dot com) is a decent free resource >>2863245It looks like that fish tried to eat. Bass tend to try to attack the head and the "head" of that lure is at that fish's mouth, though it technically is a foul hook.Id count it personally
>>2863259> online depth charts + Google maps?Google earth is better than google maps for looking for fishing spots. I only use it to find small bodies of water that I don't know about, or find trails I can use to hike in to places some times.>I fish from the bank so I don't think depth charts would be much use to meI've been bank only fishing for a few years, knowing where deep holes are still helps if you can reach them. You can also pre scout areas you want to fish by going out on low water days to find submerged cover to then fish later when the water levels are back up.
alberto vs fg for braid to mono leader on ultra light? is it really worth learning the fg cause it looks hard as fuck
>>2863276I use the fg on ultralight stuff but ultralight to me is 8lb mono and 10lb braid
>>2863257>>2863263
>>2863259> https://www.genesismaps.com/socialmap
>>2863276i only use alberto regardless of size of the line, by far best mono to braid knot in actual practice
>>2863276I use an FG for 15lb braid to 6-8lb mono when I'm using lures, it's not as hard as it looks and I have fucked up hands. I've only had it fail once and that's because I tied it bad and didn't just cut and retie.
>>2863276fg knot doesn't scale down well. the lighter you go in line test the higher modulus the leader material has to be because of the way bending vs tensile strength scales. since this information isn't even available when shopping for line, you'll not know for instance if 6lb of one line is viable for fg vs 10lb from another without testing it. If it worked regardless of stiffness you'd be able to tie braid to braid fg knots. try that, it will just turn into one big ball.
>>2863259Navionics (now Garmin) map viewer has good depth charts, but they keep burying the url I'm guessing because giving it away eats into their sales. Like >>2863268 says Google Earth is honestly better for shore anglers. The exception being if you see that an area that has easy access is just a giant shallow swamp it might save you some time not bothering.>>2863276Fg is the best knot hands down, it just comes at the expense of time. Tying a good fg is tedious and I'll give my whole routine to explain whyRod up in a holder so I can use the flex to hold tension, braid wrapped around non dominant pinky so I can tie with my other fingers. Mono in dominant hand do the over/under to get anywhere between 10-20 wraps- this will depend on the specific lines being joined- then I'll do 2 half hitches, tighten with my teeth, then slide and roll the fg so it's all right and clean, then put on gloves so I can wrench it down until it darkens and impresses the mono. Gloves off, tie Rizzuto finish on the braid, gloves on, wrench until it darkens, and then trim with nail clippers. Takes a full 5 minutes.Pic is 8lb mono joined to 6lb braid, I usually use 20lb braid, I've done it up to 100lb braid to weedwacker line for shark rigs. I do this once every dozen trips or so. I like long leaders and I don't switch up lures/rigs that much. >>2863285Retard
>>28632968 lb mono is not ultralight faggot
FG is mostly a meme, it does have uses were it perform well, like thick lines for sea fishing or to have a thin knot for backing to mainlinebut overall alberto perform just as good if not better depending on lines, and it's a lot easier to do
>>2863296i'm guessing that knot doesn't stay straight if you aren't stretching it with your thumb
>>2863297>>2863298>>2863300Holy shit I hope this is all the same retard spamming and that this thread isn't this full of clueless retards
>>2863301take your meds
>>2863301have you considered that you might be wrong?
>>2863303Have you considered if youre using anything bigger than #16 hooks theres no reason to use less than 6lb and even then you dont need 2lb until you get firmly in to the high 20s and low 30s
>>2863305so this rod in front of me, with 4lb mono being in the middle of it's line rating and 3/16oz in the middle of it's lure rating should use a hook so small you can't even fit a 1 inch bait on it. right... because that will totally cast well weighing less than a gram. Oh, maybe you meant to get an appropriately sized jighead... hmm, 1/16oz jigheads... they're all #4 hooks. weird, someone should tell them that they're doing it wrong
What are the best cheap jigs for Keitechs or any flimsy soft plastic? I've used screwlocks and the standard type with a nub. I'm thinking wire keeper, but I'm not sure it will work well or if there are any favorite brands.
line effects presentation on hardbaits heavily. especially things like suspending jerkbaits and crankbaits. jigs not as much.
>>2863307Holy strawman batman!>wahh actual ultralight gear is too light for my ultralightSkill issue git gud>. . . Rated for 2 to 6 lb mono . . .Yes, you should be using 6lb mono on that setup if you insist on using a mono mainline, and better yet you should be using 8 or 10 pound braid on that setup with a 6lb mono leader. Youll get better casting distance, better sensitivity, lose less lures, catch plenty of fish, be less prone to over-playing fish, and your jig will fish fine. >>2863330Ive been having decent luck with the cheap amazon jigs, i think the brand is infisheco or something similarly stupid
>50MPH windsI still went out and took a shot at fishing, not a single bite but I was also the only human for 400 acres and that felt nice.
Thanks for the comments guys. I went with the alberto and I am happy as it resolved my issue of feeling the knot (double uni) through my guides. Perhaps the fg is 'better' but I'll stick with Mr. Alberto for now.
>>2863330wire keepers aren't great for anything that isn't elaztechkeitechs are soft as shit and its gonna get shredded to shit with themthat said, i generally stick with megabass okashira, mustad ultrapoint ball and great lakes finesse stealth ball
>Go fishing>Try every spot I can access, no bites>Fuck it one more cast>Wind takes my line over a tree>30 minutes of hiking to get my waders, 15 minutes to find out there's a new 3 foot drop off in a spot where I could have easily walked last fall>I am still wetHow was your mornings?
>>2863347>How was your mornings?greasyi'm slowly taking apart, cleaning decades old grease, putting new grease/oil, and putting back together a bunch of reels from the multigenerational pile of gear i gotput back together a galion12R yesterday, currently cleaning a luxor saumon mer 3LA, waiting for spare parts on a mitchell 324
>>2863347>How was your mornings?Canseross and harmfull too my reproductal sistem.I've been stocking lead weights.
>>2863358>Canseross>reproductal sistemho no, the lead already got to his brain
>>2863335https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
>>2863374I fail to see the relevance. Theres no reason to use less than 6lb mono on hooks bigger than a #16, andbespecially when you start getting up in to #4 hooks. Fuck ive caught fish using #14 nymphs and 12lb mono, it barely fit in the eye of the hook but it did fit and it worked great.
>>2863376find me a #16 or smaller hook on a 1/16 jig head
>>2863377A 1/16 ounce jig head isnt small, castings go down to 1/124th, even these 1/80th oz jigs on #10 hooks theres no reason to use less than 6lb, and id probably still rather throw it on 8 or even 10.
>>2863377>>2863379This #16 jig fly is about where id start downsizing to 6 or 4, mostly just for concerns of what i can cram through the eye.
>>2863377>>2863379>>2863380>inb4 flies dont countThrowing bead head and even weightless flies with bobbers, sometimes even clear ones to try to make them less visible to fish, is far from a new ultralight technique
today 30 inches of pike
>>2863381You're overthinking it. This retard doesn't fish he just reads shit on line modulus and watches ifish suck his own dick while catching bluegills if he had any experience of their own you wouldn't need to explain this to them.
>>2863159I ended up replacing my 8lb mono with 10lb braid. I spent a few hours fishing, didnt see much difference but did practice casting for a while. I think it may be a timing issue because occasionally I could whip it 40 maybe 45 feet. I'm just eyeballing the distance but its clearly not going far. Gonna keep at it before I try another longer rod.
>>2863402Yeah no youre right >>2863403Are you sure the rod is loading and unloading properly?
>>2863402>This retard doesn't fishhe probably does, it doesn't require much ability or knowledge to do the most basic fishing, skid himself said he fish because he's somehow less retarded than fish, you're getting worked up over trivial things and look like an assholethe guy don't want to hear your point? move on and that's it
say, i wanted to do some surface fishing for pike with a frog, i've pondered trying to do one myself in wood or cork but it might actually cost me less for a better result to just get the rapala skitter frog off amazoni was wondering since none of the proposed colors match the european green frog which one you guys would use colorwise
I'm looking forward to warm weather.I had an issue with my Renzetti vise. They sorted it out for me, and now, it's working much better. If it ever makes sense for you to buy a premium vise, I recommend them. Really nice product.
>>2863407Colour doesnt matter that much, just try to get in the ball park. Im not familiar woth the european green frog off the top of my head but i imagine a frog lure thats green will get close enough. Also consider black for particularly sunny days.
>>2862646I posted this last thread and wanted to try again in case anybody has experience there. I was asking about fishing in Adirondack park wilderness areas in May. Any responses appreciated
hi what is the biiiiiiigest fish you've ever caught?-[s4s]
>>2863434also do u eat the fishe or let him go?
>>2863406hey i'm not the one posting borderline unviable fg knots to stake some kind of claim that fg does scale down to ultralight.Show me the braid to braid fg knot if you think stiffness doesn't matter.
>>2863433I don't think anyone here can provide the answers you seek.
>>2863440It was worth a shot. I didn't have much luck fishing last trip but had a great time so it doesn't really matter I guess
>>2863353Pics? Love old reels. >>2863391Nice fish! Our ice is finally over. Checked on the way home from work and the spud just fell through. I had some hope of one last pike trip before spring. >>2863407Anything seen from below in the water will appear black. Since you're looking for pike so fired up that they'll rocket out of the water I don't think color matters at all. >>2863438Retard
>>2863405 >Are you sure the rod is loading and unloading properly?Honestly I'm not sure. It doesnt feel right, it lacks a whip, very much feels like a pool noodle. I have examined for damage but I dont see anything.
>>2863476here's the 3LA i put back together todayi like it because it got an hybrid system with both bail and that spring wire thing to keep the line in the roller like some sea reels, can be used bailless1/2
>>2863476here's a bunch of reel i have sitting, the galion12R i did the other day, it's a low cost brand of mitchell (when it was still french and good) very simple and minimalist design but not bad by any mean, and a bunch of mitchells and luxors, the 324 is missing the anti reverse switch because it was a fit in and probably fell off, replacement i found online got a screw to hold it so i assume mine is one of the earliest modelsi got a second luxor model A and a second luxor supreme that are in a drawer taken apart waiting for me to buy some paint cleaner and new paint for them for a full restoration project2/2
it's itching me to start a real collection but that wouldn't be reasonablefrom 40s to 60s there was so many different fishing reels in france, some with weird designs
i mean look at this weird thing (not the frenchman)
>>2863476no argument? that's fine, I guess you gave up.
>>2863483care hypno
>>2863347I bought a boat yesterday so I’m feeling pretty good this morning.
>>2863418I’ve been tying on a renzetti traveler for 8 or 9 years now great vice but they are getting too expensive now. I think I bought mine for 125 on sale.
>>2863478>>2863479Very cool. I also bought a boat load of old reels a while ago which took my relatively small collection to one im starting to get a bit embarrassed about, this is only the stuff I think looks cool so have out on display.My issue is I can't seem to get used to left hand retrieve, so most of the cool old spinners are not super fun for me to fish. Luckily the guy I bought them from was also lefty so had a bunch of South paw Mitchells
>>2863516pretty neat collectionthe only non french reels i'd like to have would be a penn greenie and an ambidex (for the historical value of being the reel that popularized the handle that can be switched)i also have a 306 somewhere and a bunch of no name plastic reels from the late 90s early 00s, and of course modern ones i got myselfalso got a few fly reels, an old barebones mitchell, a jw young & son with a multiplier gear (still baffle me it didn't became the standard for fly reels) and some automatic reelsnot a big fan of baitcasters
>>2863518I have the one ambidex, I haven't actually fished it yet. It weighs a fucking ton, and I don't love that the bail doesn't have any kind of roller, and the drag surface area is miniscule. I don't have any kind of idea what fish/line/presentation it would shine on.
>>2863520yeah i've seen it, no roller is fine imo, my galion is like that too and it's fine, it's a simple freshwater reel so i'd put some mono between 12-15lb, not too big, strong enough for most fishes, mostly for cast and retrieve spinners or lures, would fine with live/dead bait too i guess>It weighs a fucking tonlmao, british engineering for ya, i guess the whole thing is in steel?for example luxor have been using aluminium alloys since at least the 50s for the body
>>2863477Try casting it with more bottom hand and a harder stop instead of a follow through?
>>2863477sound like your lure weight is bellow the casting weight range
I got my monthly Smitty's box in this week. A couple new patterns. The beginner pattern is called a balanced leech. It's basically a bugger pattern on a jig hook with a weighted head on a pin out in front of the hook eye. It's supposed to hang flat instead of head down. Included materials are: size 10 jig hooks, 3.2mm tungsten beads, a bag of pins, 6/0 uni thread in white, white marabou, pearl ice dubbing, orange prism dubbing and smoke gray dubbing(extra for if you want to tie a variant, not used in this pattern)
>>2863585The intermediate pattern for this month is a cray fish pattern, the craw daddy. It looks like it should do a good job at imitating a crawdad. Included materials are: size 6 jig hooks, 4.5mm slotted tungsten beads, 6/0 uni thread in dark brown, brown copper wire in size sm, felt, rubber legs, orange rabbit zonker and rusty craw dubbing.
>>2863585The balanced leech was a pretty easy tie. Nothing too complicated. Tying in the pin with the bread was pretty easy. I probably could have gone a little denser with the dubbing.
>>2863586This was a fun pattern to tie. I don't do much fishing on the bottom around here, too many rocks to get caught between. But there are some lakes a bit further out that have good muddy bottoms. Not sure when I'll get out there next. I could probably use them around here too. I'll just expect to lose one or two.
Well shit I guess I fish ultra light since I use 4lb. You learn new things every day.
>>2863595that would generally be considered light/ultralight territory, yes
Is there any reason this wouldn't work in a fast moving river? Everything's flooded right now because of record rains,it's making it wanna do stupid shit.
>>2863630I think you'd get bad hooksets. I would have a small snap swivel attached to the spinner, and further up, I would have a bigger swivel, a bead, and a weight. I want everything inline.
>>2863630some people do that, with a shorter sinker line and more swivels, prone to tangling and snaggingyou can just put a sliding sinker on the line ahead of the spinner for the same effect without the issues
>>2863630It would work, but in my experience the big Spring flood is mostly unfishable. I don't think fish are hanging out in the ripping chocolate milk.
>finally warm>snow is melting>spring has sprung>the next day>its cold as fuck and snowing againFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKJUST MELT GOD DAMMIT I WANT TO GO FISHING
>>2863683move to texas
Went to a fishing show, got a good deal on a bunch of 1/8 oz ned jigs. 75 for $25. Also got some fun soft plastics. >>2863585>>2863586>>2863587>>2863588Those look good. The leech is basically my fuzzle bugger but balanced and with marabou added>>2863595Thats hella ultralight
>>2863693i've heard hellgramites work great for bass and perch
>>2863694They're smallmouth candy and their natural colour is spot on
So I got a bunch of crappie jigheads from walmart and the paint is chipping off of them like crazy. Is this normal for cheap ass jigs? If not, should I pay the price for nice VMC or Northland shit? $7 for 4 jigs seems expensive.
>>2863697The paint on any jig chips off easy i dont usually bother buying painted jigs cause the paint is usually gone in a dozrn casts anyways
>>2863690no thanks, I like having access to public land
>>2863726vast public land but frozen
>>2863727its good in the summer thoughand we have way less mexicans than texas. more jeets, but texas is rapidly catching up in that department.
>>2863733America has better jeets than Canada. Our jeets are highly skilled professionals.As for me, there is a snow storm raging. In the place, I intend to fish this week, not so sure now, 8 inches of snow came through. I don't know if I want to be fishing with all that snow melt.
>>2863740Most of the street shitters I've seen aren't professional anything. They just own over priced liquor stores.
I desperately need to grip fish and my family doesn't understand.
is this just fucking horseshit? I looked up the actual tariffs and it says japan is free.
>>2863750Just about everything to do with the federal government is horse shit
>laughs>splashes bloody water on you
>>2863773That's a great picture.
>>2863773Nice fish
can someone explain to me why the pattern of frogs is on the top when fish can only see the bottom
>>2863800There are black frogs that are black on the bottom.It's just to catch fisherman. It's kind of retarded.
>>2863802my takeaway as wellsolid black, black and yellow or striped green all around patternanything else is for the fisherman
>>2863800Birbs
First open water rod from roadside scrap is coming together. I'm still waiting for ferrules to come in from China so I can make multi piece rods, in the meantime this one is a 5'6" casting rod which I guess will be bfs style since they seem to like those slow whippy fiberglass rods. I've picked up like 4 busted snow shovels from the side of the road for handle material.
>>2863823Mad max looking ass.
>>2863823Thats pretty sick. Its just a fiberglass driveway marker you sanded a taper into on your lathe, right? Ive been thinking about doing exactly that myself
>>2863852Exactly. This one is a 3/16" Dia, but I have 3/8" and 1/2" ones, too. All of those would fit in a drill chuck. Just like wood rough it out with 40 or 80 grit, and sand down to 400 and put a clear coat on.I have a few stripped glass blanks from junk rods I got when I bought vintage reels attached to them, you basically get exactly the same as the old Shakespeare wonderrod or the other old solid glass blanks. It's what gives me hope I can work up to a serviceable vintage style beach caster build with the half inchers.
>>2863878About how long did it take you to make that one? Did you do anything special for dust mamagment?
>>2863881About an hour to shape the blank, the roughing is slow because I have to stop every 30 seconds or so to check the flex. For dust I wear a respirator, and switch to wet sanding at 320. For most of the roughing the dust is big and heavy and drops straight down. Also fucking excited my ferrules finally arrived
What so you think about this?
>>2863897
i have a local lake that is supposedly stocked once a month but having spoken to fisherman here for the past few months no one has caught anything. also they changed it from being free parking on the weekend days to 10 dollars all the time. any los angeles fisherman know any better spots?
>>2863908wouldn't it be better to use epoxy rather than electrical tape to fix it to the blank or am i missing something?also i feel blueballed because i'm not going back to the countryside where i left to dry my bamboo for rods until mid summer probably
Anchor wizard or trolley? The trolley is way cheaper and said to be better for rivers. The wizard was sold (ideologically) by some anon a few weeks ago. It seems very smart, simple, and convenient, much more so than the trolley. Is there any more input you guys have got?
Has anyone fished a Combat Stick? I heldone once last summer, and now, I see them discounted $100+. I've got a MHF 7'1 Victory that's a bit long handled for my taste, so I've been thinking about buying some BassX or Tatula (Elite) rods.
>>2863912$10 doesn't sound so bad, all things considered. In any case, I would get the hell out of LA and CA in general.
>>2863903I love it I want over 9000 of them.
>>2863915The electrical tape is just to protect the blank from the retaining compound, and set the depth while it dried.
>>2863897Thats about what i figured itd time out at. I wonder if theres a way to speed up the roughing? >>2863908>>2863932Yeah that looks dope, and idk why i didnt think about ferrules before but thats a great idea. My instinct is to use a 3/8 marker as a butt section and taper it down to 5/16 then use a 5/16 as a tip section. I imagine that would be a good way to get a parabolic or moderate fast action out of itwhich woulf make it an absolutely killer rod for small moving baits
Is fishing hunting?
>>2863948fishing is being autistic about knots, lures, and line rating
>>2863948Bow and spear fishing is
>>2863948From what I've sean it seems to be a type of hunting
>>2863940I've been thinking about a jig to guide a belt sander or tool in the lathe, but this would take a months worth of free time to engineer and build, and only really pay off if I was entering production and making a hundred or so identical rods for sale. In reality even 2 hours is nothing for a single custom rod to your taste, since I'm working to feel and not precise diameters you would need to build a first rod as a template to measure and copy anyways. I had the same idea about using the different diameters to save sanding, next project will probably be a 4 or 5 piece pack rod where I'll be working in shorter easier to handle sections. >>2863948>>2863952Sucker spearing season is almost here
>>2863916Trolley is the old school way or for kayaks that arent really suited for mounting the wizard chute. Anchor trolley allows you to quickly switch from bow to stern anchoring, but 99% of the time you want bow anchor anyways because hull shape is safer to face upcurrent with the sharp bow. You had the bonafide right? If so you dont even need the chute, just the $100 crank. Route the anchor line through the front handle spot. Get the 6lb radius anchor or da bomb anchor
>>2863962>You had the bonafide right? Yes.>Get the 6lb radius anchor or da bomb anchorYou prefer those anchors to the grapple hook kind or the mushroom ones?Your confidence and knowledge has sold me on the wizard.-----Taking a break from fishing. It's a relatively hot day, and I'm not prepared for it. Some kids were on the stream with me, and we all had bad luck, despite excellent lunar conditions. I've moved to a different spot to have solitude. The day has been made shittier on account of me losing my favorite pliers. However, I got a really good deal on a combat stick.
It's dermestid beetle season here in norcal!!! How do you guys keep your hair and feathers safe? I've got all of mine in ziplock bags at the moment. Is that enough to keep them safe?
>>2863981Grapnel style is for rock and too snaggy for places with downed timber, mushroom is good but brings up some sediment and only really stays secure with the chute. Radius or da bomb are low profile, snagless, and tuck up tightly when retracted. Plus, even in ridiculously strong wind or current where the anchor might not hold consistently, they smoothly drag so you still don't move very fast or abruptly.
My vsxs
>>2864011Fuck these guys and the horse they rode in on.
I got a box of blade baits for $5 last year, single hook on the rear or two single hooks? I'm getting rid of the crusty trebles.
I've got the shits and am wishin that I was fishin.
>>2864047Just shit on the bank like a man.
>>2863960I dont know anything about it. I dont bow or spear fish because i don't have a good use for a bunch of dead carp, suckers, buffalo, and quillback.
>>2864049I've done that a few times before and like to avoid it, especially when wearing waders.
>>2864020>look it up>cost my left ball>overkill titanium shaft>seriously how do you break the shaft, titanium make more sense for screws>no spring to make sure the line stay in the rolleri don't see the appealnow there should be more bail-less reels
>>2864052\/>>2864011Any advice here Skid?
>>2864052I smoke and grind suckers. I'll admit it's more for the fun of a spearing opportunity, I have to season sucker balls pretty heavily to get my family on board with eating them. I'm also planning to get a dozen or so for the vegetable garden as well this year
What is the best bass bait for a river with a decent current? Like 3-4 knots, small to medium sized river, fairly clear water. I've not been able to catch much with my confidence lure of a Zoom trick work and a Charlie Brewer spider hook..
>>2864128any paddle/curl tail soft plastic on a jig should work, spinners tooalternatively you can do the old way, target the prey baitfish, one you found these you can expect the predator to be around too and use livebait
>>2864128I feel like the algorithm just discovered Charlie Brewer. I never heard of him before this month and Ive seen his stuff absolutely everywhere since. Has everyone just been using this stuff without me noticing?
>>2864142I heard about him 6 years ago from a guy at the boat ramp who was wiping his $70k+ boat off with baby wipes after it came out of the water. He was there practicing for a bass tournament and had "only" caught 20 that morning. He was actually disappointed with that number.
>>2864142I've used charlie brewer crappie sliders for years. >>2864128Buzzbait
>>2863932
>>2864173pretty good, but wouldn't wire pliers work just as good without needing a dedicated piece of wood?also does snake style guides work differently? because these would be definitely easier to do
>>2864181It's a piece of wood with 2 holes in it, it took 1 minute to make and now I can produce unlimited identical guides in seconds.
Out of pure curiosity, if you were to build a survival fishing kit, what would you put in it?Minimalistic or not.
>>2864094Ive never had to deal with them luckily. Maybe materials in zip lock style baggies and moth balls? Store organic materials jn the freezer?>>2864173Cool jig>>2864204Id be trying to balance minimalism with variety. Probably a bunch of very small hooks, and a couple of moderately large hooks. The small hooks obviously for fishing for panfish for me and/or bait for the bigger hooks, and the bigger hooks for set-and-forget bankline stuff so then i can go out for a little while and catch something from a snack to a meal for myself proactively and then leave the bankline to passively fish for me. Maybe tomorrow ill come back and have a turtle or a catfiah waiting for me.
>>2864204well by nature a survival kit is minimalistici suppose it would have a single all purpose rod and reel loaded with 20lb braid, small hook and a float rig for baitfish, live/dead bait hooks, and spinners or various sizes, handful of weights and sinkersalso avoid as much as possible consumable you can't replenish, so leaders would be old style rigid steel wire
>>2864204I would get a net and whatever I need to repair it.>>2864248>also avoid as much as possible consumable you can't replenish, so leaders would be old style rigid steel wireYou can still break off at the knot. How likely do you think it is that anon is fishing water with a high likelihood of pike and whatnot? I doubt it.
>>2864267>You can still break off at the knot.well that can happen to anyone in any circumstances, hardly an argument>How likely do you think it is that anon is fishing water with a high likelihood of pike and whatnot?well most people here are either in the US or the UE, so yeah anon possibly have pikes, it's near 100% presence in the EU, and for the US i don't know as much but isn't it in all of the northern part?now yes if anon is in the southeast he don't need it that much (pretty sure you still have zander down there), unless he also fish saltwateranyway, a bunch of steelwire leaders cost close to nothing and barely take up space, and can be reused as long as you don't loose itnow a castnest would be a good idea, tho it can be heavy depending on size
>>2864271>for the US i don't know as much but isn't it in all of the northern part? Not really. Pike aren't that numerous. Walleye, which also have teeth, are far more common and desirable, but they're teeth don't cut nearly as much.>now a castnest would be a good idea, tho it can be heavy depending on sizeA castnet crossed my mind, but a seine net would be better.
is it just me or is daiwas sv system backward? wouldn't you want less braking when the line is tight and the spool is accelerating, not less?and whenever there's no force to actuate the cam (the spool is overrunning), it should apply more brakes?
>>2864204Survival is such a funny concept. Like are you preparing for 24 hours? 48 hours? A week? Falling out of a plane or walking in yourself and getting lost? I think like >>2864232 says a bank line type setup would be best, heavy line with a big book and a chunk of bait got by any means necessary. We tend to forget that most of our fishing gear is sporting autism, and if we really had to fish to live all these branded lures, light line , delicate sensitive rods would all be fucking retarded to rely on, unless you just happened to only have spooky trout in shallow rivers. If you have pike, or catfish, or turtles, or burbot, you're throwing rope.
>>2864283When I posted the question I was imagining Hatchet, so plane crash fits perfectly.
Didnt get to fish proper this weekend but did put line on a 7 foot light rod i got on clearance and test it out with the last hour of sunlight. Caught 3 perch within 10 minutes of getting to the spot then nothing else. I also mildly contest the 'light' rating on this rod, it feels like a lot if 7 foot ultralights ive played with and so i set it up with ligher stuff, 10lb braid and 12lb leader.>>2864267Nets are great but often bulky
>>2864332>>2864332Darn so close to tripsI also put bait keepers on a bunch of 1/16 oz jigs from ebay
>>2864332>so i set it up with ligher stuff, 10lb braid and 12lb leader. What pound line is that rod rated for?
>1/6 rooster tail white>1/4 kastmaster metallic perch grabbed from wally world on my way home, but i forgot to get the snap swivels...
>>28643492 to 8 i think?>>2864351Yeah you're gonna want those snap swivels
>>2864287>>2864283pretty sure you can't get hooks in a plane nowso a castnet or a basket trap would be your best bet in that case
went fishing for the first time this year and got thoroughly skunked. is there a term for a skunking in which you don't have so much as a nibble? god damn i think i'd rather lose a dozen hook sets than get absolutely no interest.
>>2864378what are your air temps and water tempsfish might be way more shallow than you think
>>2864378on my 9th straight skunk, i feel nothing anymore. i doubt the lying glow in the dark are actually stocking here
>>2864384air temps were around 60, but it's been cool week overall. no idea on the water temps. barometer was falling and it was partly cloudy with some wind.tried worms, rooster tails, a crankbait, and a 2.5in paddle tail swimbait. slow, quick, deep or shallow, didn't seem to matter. i didn't even see any birds around, so they knew something we didn't.i did see a single dead trout on the shore. a bad omen in retrospect.
>>2864387you went to an artificial place that only have stocked fish every once in a while?try some natural place
>>2864385>>2864394behold, ignorance
>>2864396enlighten us then asshole
Fact: Fishing is only fun when you're catching for food
>>2864398This is untrue. I have a lot of fun catching and releasing. Perhaps, you meant to say:>Fishing is only fun for me when I'm catching for food
>>2864359Thank god I'm never getting on a plane by choice.
>>2864398Nah because nothing where I live is edible and I have a blast.
>>2864405>>2864430Don't feed the trolls
Biggest fish I've cane poled so far. Also first fish of the year.
>>2864446Bonus fish, also caught a couple on a spinner.
is there anyplace to just get chatterbait heads without skirts
Limited out at the trout park in 10 mins with a gulp minnow on a darter head this morning.Proceeded to break my largemouth pb on a weedless wacky rig this evening in a literal superfund site . Feels good to finally hit the spring bite.
can you guys recommend a brand that does 15lb mono in bulk relatively cheap that isn't shit?
>>2864481Berkley Big Game is what I use and have never had a problem
>>2864481POWERPRO!
Making some progress on a new spool for my dam 220. I exploded the original by machine winding 6lb mono like a fucking retard. Machine can only handle light cuts so it's slow going but it's coming along. >>2864481I've tested every mono Ive owned in the last 3 years on my crane scale, and in that sense I can't tell the difference between any of the brands. Mono is super uniform in diameter and breaking strength across the board, just buy whatever is local/cheap on amazon and dont worry about it. >>2864446That's super sick. I want a cane pole but I know in my heart of hearts I would never use it and it would just be more crap in the corner. Kudos! >>2864398I have to agree. I can only go a few weeks without bonking something, otherwise I start to feel very domesticated. >>2864333I like the bait keeper idea, I'll probably do this on a few ewg's this summer I hate constantly adjusting my senko
>>2864490i wish i had the stuff to make spools from scratchi let go an antique reel on ebay the other day because it's bakelite spool was broken
>>2864333What is that? A dollop of jbweld?
Hopefully I can get my first catch in of the yearThe lakes and reservoirs are thawed but the river level is high and my favorite spot is around 1200 cfs per the usgs site (I have my best luck there in the 300 range)It's been too long since I kissed a fish l, wish me luck.
>>2864512140 denier danvilles flat waxed nylon fly tying thread, a piece of .024" stainless steel wire, and a drop of super ultra watery thin superglue >>2864513Good luck anon
>>2864517>Good luck anonThanksI'm still out there but got 4 nice rainbows all over 14 inches so farNot a bad way to start a season
is there a good mono to mono knot other than the uni one? i don't want to waste some good 0.1mm and use some bigger backing instead
>>2863247Any place to find pics like these for uh, research
>>2864543>thick line as backing to save moneyyou will lose more money when it causes problems. if anything, you need your backing to be thinner than your main.
>>2864548what kind of problem? there's hardly any use for thinner than i have
>>2864349Heres all the specs and a dink rockbass>>2864525Solid rainbow anon
>>2864556I also found a hammer handle pike
>>2864549mustard gas
Just bought a flats skiff. I’ll wave to you shore cucks as I’m cruising.
>>2864525Heck yeah! Nice anon!
I dont think leaders do anything and you should just use whatever the heaviest braid or fluro your reel can handle
>>2864582sound like what a pike would say
>>2864583actual steel leaders would be the one exception but people who tie fluro to braid sound like theyre coping to me
>>2863403I am back from the lake. I think anon was right, it was a lure weight issue. I took a 1/6 out and saw an improvement, 1/4 feels perfect. I think it was also a technique issue but I got some really awesome casts today and some good practice. However, this lake has stocked trout, stocked cats in the summer and a small population of bluegill and bass. Should I consider moving down to light or even ultra light considering my targets here? I caught some glimpses of some fish today and they looked no longer than 4 inches maybe a bluegill. I talked to another fisherman on the way out and he said saw them stock last Thursday about 100 trout every month due to them dying so fast.https://parks.lacounty.gov/whittier-narrows-recreation-area/
>>2864590most of this will bite on spinners, put a split shot of adequate weight about 8in from the spinner and you're good
>>2864582Itt what is abrasion resistance
>>2864590Sizing down can definitely help, but especially now moving into their breeding season bluegill WILL attack things that they have no chance of fitting into their mouth I've cought bluegill that were barely bigger than the rapala I was casting and no way they could swallow it
As someone with no boat, how do I prepare for boat fishing? I'm planning on bringing some fine ladies out on a boat for a fishing excursion and I don't want to embarrass myself by seeming like a bad fisherman. I've already done it once and I was so focused on not crashing the fucking boat that I couldn't focus on the fishing, but this time I'll be slightly more prepared.
>>2864610they will only take note of how well you handle fishy smells and substances
>>2863479A lot of those old French reels were superbly well made, but they used bronze sleeve bearings. If they get loose, you have to refit the the sleeve and that takes lapping.(It's a PITA)But if they're still serviceable, they make your run of the mill chinesium ball bearing reel feel like it's full of gravel.
>>2864610It's superbly easy to not crash a boat.
>>2864626I'm supremely autistic and retarded and can't swim so I'm extra anxious on boats. I have this fear that I'll get carried by lake waves into a bunch of swimmers and crush them all.
>>2864630Just kill the motor, itll suck to get run over but as long as the prop isnt running it shouldnt cause anything worse than bumps and scrapes.
>>2864556>Solid rainbow anonI got a few nice onesEnded up getting 6 that day and I took your advice.Switched to 15lb braid main, swivel, and 10lb braid leader. The trout didn't seem to mind>>2864565Thanks. Feels nice to be out again.
>>2864615>A lot of those old French reels were superbly well madewell they were the first exporter of tackle untill the 80si think only Penn with it's sea reels were competing with them on the international scaledaiwa wasn't on the same scale untill the 90 and the other brands were european and could hardly compete already locallyi think the luxor model A from 1955 is the only 50s reels that can still be easily found second hand across the globe despite all of them having been made in a single factory in france, which is quite the feat for the timealso first to use at the time the new aluminium alloys developed between ww1 and ww2 for aviationa shame that it's all gone now
>>28646512864615 here-I'm old, so prepare for rambling.Agreed. The French made some fantastic reels. The only thing I can compare with of that era are the ABU/Ambassadeur, and those were mostly smaller baitcasting reels (Yes,I collect those as well)Daiwa had some very good reels in the 80's but they were expensive. I had a Daiwa Silver, and Daiwa Bronze spinning reel, what was notable was they had ball bearings on the flybail and shaft. That being said, I still preferred my 300 or 330 Mitchells. The Daiwas also depended on a "bump-trip" for the bail on the mounting, as opposed to the more elegant spindle trip used by the Mitchells.The Luxors are also excellent reels, I was just sold on the Mitchells by a relative who moved back to France after WW2. (I still have an invite to fish the Creuze.)I'm an aircraft mechanic by training and trade, so I know what you mean. Yes. Things have not improved. Far too much "ball bearing" and not enough " does it actually work?".I see some improvement, but not like I saw in the late 70's. As it is, I am moving toward "dink fishing".Fishing for fishing's sake, and appreciating every catch.But I still love the simple, magnificent beauty of these French reels.
>>2864655i've never got my hands on an Abu so i can't say about these, but i generally agreei think it all boil down to simplicity being the greatest of refinements
>>2864656>i've never got my hands on an Abu Same idea, precision fitted sleeve bearings and excellent quality control.
If you could have any fishing boat for your preferred style of fishing, which’d you choose?
>>2864658>If you could have any boat>any boat1882 ironclad Marceaui'd just park it on my local river and cast from the side of it instead of the bank
>>2864660I'd take redoutable
>>2864637>15lb braid to 10lb braidIm gonna assume thats a typo lol. But yeah that sounds great. And yeah, fish are stupid and dont really care about line
>>2864665i would go for the Carnot but it's a bit big for a single man like myself, also might not fit into my local river
>>2864666No typoI have 15 lb daiwa x8 and then a swivel and some 10lb power pro as a leader Lost a lot fewer lures that with mono as I usually have an issue with snags instead of abrasion in my rivers
Do stocked trout even care about anything pretty sure they bite anything
>>2864630>>2864636A distant memory just came to my mind. I seem to recall getting run over by a boat as a kid. It definitely was not bad. I think it must've been more than a kayak, but a pontoon boat over an 8 year old seems far-fetched.
>>2864677He did nothing wrong.
>>2864658A Crestliner Authority 2250 could do basically everything I do in my current t 18 foot Sportman, and also would be a lot more confidence inspiring on Superior and Rainy.Of course my tiller handle 40hp is a lot more economical than a 350 hp, and I don’t have 8 bands to blow on a boat.
>>2864681
>>2864670Fair, like i said, fish are dumb. Glad to hear you've taken the heavy line pill and its working out for you.>>2864677>>2864683I guess i gotta look up who mike long is now
>>2864675Canned sweet corn is a classic farm-trout bait. Otherwise "worm on hook under bobber" works just fine.
Pier fishing anon here reporting back on my south FL fishing trip. My float rig idea failed spectacularly and only got me two fish (a lucky first cast on a big trigger and a barracuda who chased my squid probably thinking it was a fish). I went hours without getting nibbles or having my bait taken. Ended up going back to my dropper rigs so I could actually catch something and came back one day with several decent blue runners.I have to ask but is picrel REALLY the ultimate rig for catching big fish if you’re not using a trolley? Other anglers were using variations even simpler than picrel and getting more hook ups than me.Either way, it seems like I can’t avoid getting snagged on the reef unless I want to actually catch fish
>>2864714>I have to ask but is picrel REALLY the ultimate rig for catching big fish if you’re not using a trolley?well yeah, and not even big fish, it's simple and polyvalent, scalable at different sizes and weights, both livebait and deadbaiti use it for river eels, this rig with a nightcrawler on the hookalternatively i've seen people in FL just put a shrimp on a jighead instead of having a whole rig
>>2864714I have to admit, I want to hate this rig but it's quite literally universal. It took me a long time to get over my rig autism and just throw a variation of this, scaled to the outfit. Beach fishing, boat fishing, ice fishing, it's quite literally simplicity and perfection.
>>2864714That or a knocker rig
>>2864715>>2864722>>2864731>spend countless hours researching online and theorycrafting rigs while adapting to my fishing spot and the species I’m trying to catch>spend countless more hours and a good sum of money buying tackle to construct said rigs>they all get mogged by the final boss of rigs which is just a simple ass weight with a line that has a hook at the end of itI hate my stupid fucking chungus life. At least I know what to use next time and to invest in some heavy egg sinkers.Unrelated but some other guy caught something weird that looks a lot like picrel (without the spots on top) late in the afternoon on the last day I went fishing. Safe to say this isn’t a normal occurrence on the east atlantic coast?
>>2864733>Unrelated but some other guy caught something weird that looks a lot like picrel (without the spots on top) smooth puffer fish?>Safe to say this isn’t a normal occurrence on the east atlantic coast?if i guessed right it's a normal occurrence
>>2864734Oh shit you’re right. Thought it was a silver cheeked toadfish from a quick google search. Just when I thought I’ve seen it all there’s an even uglier fish around the corner
>>2864735You're gonna love the red-lipped bat-fish it looks like it just had its 3rd divorce
why does it seem everyone has a story of someone getting hooked by a treble hook but not as much a single hook? just because there are more points so its more likely? i spoke to some old boomer at the lake who told me about a guy who got it in his eye
apparently lure manufacturers can't do math
Hey.
>>2864280Just trust the science>>286448112lb yo-zuri hybrid 600yd spool is better than 15 lb mono and most flouro
>>2864747it seems pretty self explanatory
>>2864802ok so explain it
>>2864655I don't own any actual abu baitcasters because they're so wildly priced I can't justify it. I make do with the Ming Yang and daiwa imitations and like them a lot. Only spinning Abus I have are a 444, and a c4 and I do like them, but I wouldn't pay what they go for normally.I find it very hard to enjoy fishing a 300 because of the noise, and I don't enjoy back reeling. I like a clicky anti reverse, but the 300 sounds too much like grinding, and I find it unpleasant. I really like the 304 and I'm on the lookout for a deal on a 308.
>>2864804If you're really getting into the old reels, some of the best deals I've ever gotten were at gunshows.I shop very hard for the ABU's I've gotten, never spent more than $20.00. (usually at gun shows or car/tractor shows)I do have some Daiwa and a Shimano baitcaster, they're fine, I just like the feel of the Abu a bit more.As far as quieting down a 300 series anti-reverse, I use a surplus grease called "Anderol L786" when I rebuild/go through them, that seems to really help.Other than the 300's the only "odd" ones I have are a big 302, a 308A, and a 330 with the strange auto-bail.
>>2864809>>2864804i got the replacement parts for my 324 in the mail today and put it back together this afternooni was surprised how little noise the clicker did compared to my other mitchells, it's more of a budget reel in the mitchell catalog but still a fine reel that run smoothi think it was my great uncle main reel back then>and I'm on the lookout for a deal on a 308good luck with that, it was already considered highly collectable a decade ago
>>2864803they don't lay flat.
It's crazy to me that there is still so much stock of daiwa ca80s floating around. They can be had for $65. Literally the best baitcasting reel for the price by far at that discount. Meanwhile daiwa is trying to sell the aird 80 for $100 now, and it's the same reel but without the aluminum frame. For anyone wanting to try baitcasters on the cheap, get one before they're all dried up. You can even cast 1/4 oz lures pretty far on it if you use light line.
Speaking of odd, found this "kit" at a local junk shop/flea market.I think I have ~$2.00 into it.
>>2864855Somehow you found a worse kit than my 27 buck trash. It smells like cancer.
>>2864895It's not coming out of the package, I just have it as a novelty.
>>2864855the soviets made copies of some reels, i know they copied an abu spincaster and a mitchell 320 or 324i wonder how they compare to the originals
>get to spot>set up>go to make the first cast>fail dexterity skill check>pic relatedI forgot my good pliers so i just left it there, fished, then cut it off when i got home. It kinda sucked the whole time but not enough to keep me from fishing.
>>2864920lmao almost looks deliberately placed, i could definitely see a 90s-era fishing magazine having this as an advert
>>2864920eh, not your first piercing, probably no the weirdest one too, but you don't need to comment on that
Hey, 4Chan My daughter asked if she a picture of your 'fishies'. Thanks.-Matt
>>2864932*could see
>>2864923Lol i could see that im just not sure if it would be an advertisement for cutters or for how sharp the hooks are>>2864930It mostly just sucked cause when the lead head hit my ear it stung like id been shot with a bb gun and it would bounce when i walked which also didnt feel great
>>2864920On a trip with my dad once he had a bizarre miscast that ultimately ended with a barbed hook in his thigh. I didn't see how it happened but he thinks he caught the tip of the rod on a branch during the cast; he had a very noodley slow action rod and he figured it whipped it back at himThankfully we had a cutter and I was able to push it through and cut the other side, but the thing I remember most is that it didn't bleed at all. Not even a drop.
>>2864932One of the two creek chubs. They don't like to stay still.they're about 8" long now.
>>2864942When I was a kid I went salmon fishing with my dad, some retard showed up with a crankbait walked right up beside me and tried to whip it out into the river, only thing he hooked was the pad of my thumb and almost launched my skinny ass into the water. My dad ended up just ripping it through my thumb because nobody had strong enough clippers to cut the hook. Honestly wasn't that bad now that I think about it.
What's the name of this fly pattern? Tried to draw from memory of one I saw in an old book
>>2863243If you had to choose between only freshwater fishing or only saltwater fishing for the rest of your life, which would you choose?
>>2864951freshwater because i have a river near me and no ocean
>>2864932>>2864943here's a better pic for the kiddo.The other one insists on hiding in it's weedy home. It's a 75 gallon tank so they have lots of room.
>>2864951Salt because I prefer eating what I catch.
>>2864951Saltwater is 100000 times better than freshwater especially if you have a boat. Why would you chose to chase gay trout when you can catch striper.
>>2864968Being on a boat for any other reason than fishing is awful however.
>>2864969That depends brochacho. I like cruising with the senpai and posting up on a sandbar then having a few brews (IPAs of course) while the dog runs around.
I did some experimenting with donkey rigs.1: they scale down just fine2: they work fine with octopus hooks, you don't have to rig them weedless3: the only thing i can think to call the little donkey rig is el burrito rig>pic relatedOnce the crappies are shallow this is gonna be deadly>>2864942I wish i had wire cutters with me lol>>2864944That dude is one stupid cunt. I think it might be not that bad in retrospect because you blocked out the memory of how bad it sucked.>>2864945It seems vaguely familiar but i cant place it
>>2864944haha what the fuck. even ~8 feet apart feels a smidge too close shore fishing when i'm with friends. if a complete stranger is close enough to hook my son on a cast then i can only assume they're trying to start something.anglers who are too cowardly to ask you to cede a spot and instead just act like assholes until you move are scum.
>>2864972Clearly never been salmon fishing.
anyone ever fished in the Roanoke River? live a bout 2 hours SE from it and it seems pretty sweet
no icefishers around here?
>>2864983The only ponds that freeze around me aren't exactly known for winter fishing. I'd fuck with it though.
>>2864983Spring has sprung here. No ice for 3 or so weeks now in my part of New England
>>2864983My ice is gone
>>2863243Nice
>>2864971>I think it might be not that bad in retrospect because you blocked out the memory of how bad it sucked.Naw, it really was as basic as I described. It only hurt when the hook was in, kinda like when you dislocate something. It scarred for 20 years though, but that's been gone for a few years now.
>>2864998>It scarred for 20 years though, but that's been gone for a few years now.i have a barely noticeable line under the skin where used to be a scar from when i tried to unhook a pike by putting my hand inside it's mouth, about two decades as wellgood tiems
>>2864992ice was 130cm thick. my first trip was a failure my drill wasnt long enough. had to buy an extension for it. didnt get anything but thats not the point i just want to get /out.
>>2864973correct. what's the difference?
>>2865002salmon fishers are obsessed. and salmon rivers are usually heavily controlled with licenses and zones and such and they might allow 5meters between each fisher. its a clusterfuck of rods and lures and lines flying left and right, not a good place to be in. more seasoned salmon fishers take turns on fishing, they all paid for the right to fish there but they take 10-15min turns instead of throwing lures and flies into each other.
>>2865007When I was younger, it was all people drift fishing in a line, the person furthest down river would cast first, then you just go in line, and you wait until everybody's reeled back in before recasting.That is not typically what you see people doing when salmon fishing nowadays though.
>>2864983I've never been on a frozen lake.
>>2865008i love salmon fishing but i always try to make away from the crowds.>>2865014sad, i enjoy the speeding of the snowmobile as much as the fishing. its theoretically 60kmh speed limit on the ice but lol...make it 100, 120... i just cant help myself.
caught this bugger in the marina. no barb, or at least as far as I could tell. so it either lost its barb, its a skate, or I was blissfully ignorant and got lucky handling it without care.fishing with bait here feels like cheating, doesn't even feel like I broke the skunk. why do I only get a thrill out of throwing artificial?
>>2865002At great lakes estuary mouths you have hundreds of people lining up elbow to elbow to try and floss a salmon on 50lb mono in the fall run. It's a cultural experience not a wilderness pursuit, it's scummy and urban and honestly I don't care at all. These are all introduced fish with no chance of natural reproduction. I don't care if pakis net a hundred of them for the table, or if dudes snag em in the rear mouth it's pure put and take for the fun of it.
>>2865023Skate
>>2865025sorta sounds like the fishing version of those videos of old people playing slot machines, but it's finei stayed away from salmon even when i lived in the PNW because natives were so weird about them.
>>2865033how were they weird about them?
>>2865007>>2865025This sounds like a terrible experience desu>>2865008This sounds more like how it should be
>>2863243That's a healthy, earthy ass.A little sweat and faint poopy smell, but it will taste like chicken teddies and ranch sauce. Source- I love eating.
Finally finished the dam quick I've been working on for over a year. I overpaid for it, and immediately cracked the spool winding line on it. Thought it would be cool to make a new one and add a couple other upgrades at the same time. Main bearing was replaced with a sprag clutch for instant anti reverse, repainted with engine crinkle paint, new aluminum spool, carbon drag, and I left some meat in the spool in case I ever feel like opening it up to accept a more modern large diameter 6 piece drag. Still want to make a nice knob for the handle, and trying to decide if I want a clicker on the drag. The instant anti reverse is fun because I still have the original, which I can turn on for backup and nostalgic click, disengage for silent, or reverse to lock up the reel in case I ever wanted to do that. Anyway thanks for coming to my Ted talk like and subscribe for more
>>2865043>I overpaid for itimport fees i assume?pretty nice spool, also i would keep the original anti reverse but perhaps that's my autism, i like to keep things as designedi'm also eyeing some few reels now, a real nice one and a meme one, we'll see if i can snatch them
>>2865038i got my biggest salmon 8kg or so below the war funeral of i think uk pilots. nidelven, trondheim. thanks guys.
>>2865048D.A.M. reels of any flavor command a high price in the U.S., your average flea-market or Etsy seller will see "Made In Germany" on a fishing reel and start shifting decimal points toward the right on the asking price.
>>2865059i see a dam quick super with the berlin west marking for 20 dollars on ebay from Orland, CAi'd buy it if i was in the USdirty and a few scratches bot no missing or bent parts, it's probably the most collectable dam reel
>>2865062I paid 20$ plus 15$ shipping which I definitely consider overpaying. It was in decent used shape but I didn't really plan to do the whole overhaul, I basically just sunk cost myself into making a whole project out of it since I couldn't bring myself to throw 35$ in the trash like any reasonable person would have, now I have around 100$ in materials and countless hours sunk and I still haven't wet a line with it.
>>2865064well i like repairing things so i would see it as a hobby cost, but 100 in materials is a bit much yeahi bought a big ass piece of wool felt to make washers and joints as they were supposed to be, didn't cost that much but stillspeaking of that a wood spool would have worked with it, metal washers would have damaged it over time but separated with felt ones would have made it workbought some paint remover today, i'll wait till it's sunny and not windy and if i get a good result i'll buy paintbut beside that and grease/oil i don't think i have exorbitant costs
>>2865062Be careful with Ebay, sometimes the seller will have a low "buy it now" but the shipping cost is fucktarded.Saw that with a 304 Mitchell, where the reel was $24.00, but shipping was $85.00, domestic.>>2865064I've done that, but not lately since I no longer have access to a machine shop.>>2865065If you manage to fudge a lot of the costs into other things, like materials you use or find at work, or using materials you'd use on other things, it works out. Tough to do if you live in an apartment though.My current 1950's one car garage is larger than my first apartment.
>>2865076>Be careful with Ebay, sometimes shipping cost is fucktarded.i know, also i avoid buying from germany directly because their postal service is ass on top of costing sometimes more than postal service plus import tax from england
Spring tying season is upon us. Been tying like a mad man for striper season. Let’s hope they actually show up this year.
No fish today, but I learned a valuable lesson
>>2865103you mean swimming or not falling into the water?
>>2865105Not drowningIt might spoil my day
>>2865106you should learn swimming next, not a big fan personally but it will help you not drown so it's important
>>2865065Of course I didn't do it with the expectation of increasing the value, it's probably still a 20$ reel, and just for fun. It's funny you say wood because I think a peetz style mooching reel would really be a fun scrap wood lathe project. That and one of those donut shaped hand reels. >>2865076I'm rapidly filling my very small laundry room machine shop with tools and materials, plus all my fishing tackle. It's getting pretty tight in there. Obviously I'm out of pocket 100$ because of this reel, but the foot long rod of 2.5" aluminum bar will have other uses in the future, as will the rest of the can of crinkle paint, etc. I had considered trying to really caveman style campfire cast an ingot of aluminum from scraps I have to avoid buying the aluminum bar stock, but thankfully realized I was being retarded and if I was going to do it just get on with it.
>>2865122>I think a peetz style mooching reel would really be a fun scrap wood lathe project.there's a close but more functional design that exist, with a slightly more complicated footyou pivot the spool to cast like a fixed spool reel, i have one in aluminium from the 50s that come with an additional clicker as well
>>2865124>you pivot the spool to cast like a fixed spool reelOh, just like an old Alvey reel.
>>2865127pretty sure they predate alvey but yeah same concept different methodthere was also picrel
>>2865038it is terrible. i fish anything and everything, i got deep sea rigs, a couple of fly rods, spinning rods ranging from small trout to big salmon. most salmon fishers only fish salmon, its an obsession and lifestyle, they dont know the calm and joy of fishing 100gram trout in the mountains. to them this is normal. i can find salmon rivers where you can fish alone and quiet and ironicly one of them is downtown trondheim. no one seem to believe that but it house 30kg salmon and you will be alone when fishing.
Any tips for someone brand new to fly or is it pretty intuitive if you've used every other kind of reel.
>>2865163Its exactly inverse to conventional gear. You cast a weighted line to drag a near weightless lure, instead of casting a near weightless line dragged by a weighted lure/bait. Fish still do the same stuff and hang out in the same places but there's a learning curve to the arcane nature of making flies do what you want, both in the air and in the water. Biggest advice is learn to cast before you go fishing, focus on accuracy more than distance (though to learn both) and grt ready to get good at fixing tangles. What kind of setup do you have and what kind if fishing are you doing?
>>2865163it's a bit more technical because you cast the line instead of casting the lure, but nothing too hardalso if you don't have gear already i got old second hand gear off ebay because it's a lot cheaper than brand newif you do just consider some old reels were made for, at the time, smaller flylines, so consider size carefully, i got a DT5W line in a mitchell 7130 that barely fit with very little backing
>>2865163wear some eyepro and a hatdon't worry about how shit your casts/loops arefocus on accuracy and line managementdon't waste your time with nymphs
>>2865164>>2865167I understand how it works in theory I just haven't actually done it yet. I picked up a cheap martin combo for $30 to learn how to cast fly on before the season is in swing starting with just casting without a fly in my back yard. Since I'm not confident in what I would buy if I was going to spend the $400~ for a recognizable brand like Orvis it seems like an ok place to just get started and at least know how to handle the equipment. As for fish it's mostly just stocked trout but also landlocked salmon if I'm willing to drive a bit further. My friends and family that fish don't do fly at all so I'm just figuring it out myself. >>2865173What's wrong with nymphs?
>>2865176dry flies are easier to get started with
>>2865176NTA...in the beginning, especially if you haven't got the cast right, it's easy to frustrate yourself with multi fly rigs and/or float and nymph rigs, or anything that adds another potential point of rotation in the line like split shot or a double nymph rig.. Start with weightless flies. Dry flies are easier to see. Swung flies are the most forgiving as far as actually presenting the fly to a fish. Once you feel confident in your cast, then add weighted flies into the mix. Nymphs are more productive, when it comes to catching fish, in my experience. But they're harder to cast in the beginning. They led to several very frustrating fishing sessions for me in the beginning. But now, they're the first thing I tie on, unless I see fish actively feeding at the surface.
>>2865172>>2865172>>2865172New thread
>>2865202>thread page 2>previous thread still in catalog>didn't even bother putting the title in OP piccmon
>>2865202Fuck your tardo thread. Someone else will start the real thread when this one is on page 5
>>2865208probably skid's boyfriend again that couldn't stand the sight of a woman in bikini
>>2865178>>2865187Cool thanks. I'll practice casting with nothing tied on in the yard tomorrow then go pick up some extra tippet and leader and some dry flies for when I get to water.
>>2865215>then go pick up some extra tippet and leaderi make them with spool leftovers
>>2865176There's a learning curve. Its all about a smooth acceleration to a hard stop. You need the rod to always be increasing speed during the entire casting stroke to establish and maintain a load in the rod, then that hard stop is what transfers the load in the rod in to energy in the fly line. A way that it was described to me was like trying to fling water off a brush in a controlled manner- if you just wave it around you get inefficient arcs but if you give it a smooth acceleration to a hard stop the water will flick off in a more or less controlled and efficient manner. The orvis videos on youtube along with practice in the back yard is where i learned to do it. When you do get a nice combo i like echo for their bang/buck ratio.Trout and land locked salmon are fun but dont neglect warm water species, sunfish bass, crappies, and more will readily tske flies. An afternoon harassing bluegill with a fly rod is a lot of fun.>>2865178>>2865215Nymphs arent inherently easier or harder to cast. Big bushy dry flies suck energy out of your cast and can be hard to turn over, and heavy bead head nymphs can be hard to control, but a weightless or lightly weighted pheasant tail will cast great.>>2865187Im going to mostly agree- a single fly is the easiest thing to fish, but it can be very frustrating to fish dries. Im going to say a single soft hackle is the best beginner fly. Easy to cast, hard to fish wrong, and a good impressionistic representation of a variety of aquatic insects. Id also like to reccomend small weightless streamers, like wooly buggers and zonkers, because they're also not too hard to cast but are hard to fish wrong. >>2865216I tie my own leaders out of berkley trilene xl and berkley big game monofilament. Not sure what contemporary pricing is now but ~5 years ago i bought all the berkley trilene spools for ~35 dollars and have only had to replace two of the spools using the line for both fly leaders, conventional leaders, and tying rigs.
>>2865215Be sure to always use a leader. Casting without one can damage the head.
