Drunk ordered one of these last night. Got fomo seeing everyone falling back in love with photography, using the optical viewfinder and onboard flash. Did I fuck up?
>>4460982Nope.
>>4460982Eh. Could've been worse. You could have ordered a Sony a7cII.
>>4460982When will you get it? You should post pics in this thread
>>4460986Arrives tomorrow. I’ll take a walk around and post some shots later this week. Have to admit I am excited to get to know another camera for the first time.
>>4460989Very nice. Looks like a fun little party cam. Learning a new camera is always a good time!
>>4460982>Did I fuck up?For buying the best travel camera on the market right now? Nah.
>>4460982I'm considering one, but being stuck with just one lens is something I'm not sure on.
>>4460982>that price for a fixed lens Fujioof
>>4461016You sound jealous. Why is that?
>>4461016Just wait until you see how much Sony charges for theirs
>>4460982>Who else fell for the meme?I'm tempted but the fixed focal length is pushing me away.>optical viewfinder and onboard flashI have two DSLRs with these features...
>>4460982i had an x100V for a couple months. fun to use, but felt like a plasticy toy. sold it for $600 more than i paid new.
>>4460982>seeing everyone falling back in love with photographylel>the optical viewfinderThat one's a gimmick)>Did I fuck up?Sadly yes>>4461024I doubt anyone is jealous of wasting money on a highly undesirable larp camera. It's not something like a Leica S3.
welcome to the club faggot
>>4461048Nice fingernails for a lesbian
>>4461048Do you have difficulties pressing the shutter with those potato fingers of yours?
>>4461052yes actually.the camera is not suitable for stumpy meaty hands. that would be my main complaint.
>>4461052These are made for squizzing cocks.
>>4461055what if i told you i have down syndrome and you're making fun of a down syndrome photographer right now
>>4461056I would ask you if you have a monopoly on calling others "faggot" because of that.
>>4461056kek
>>4461027The RX100? It's half the price, if that's the camera you mean anyway. That's what always came up when I looked up Fuji X100 vs Sony so I'm assuming it's the equivalent.
>>4461064RX1r3 is $5.1k bro
>>4461064He probably means the RX1R, although the problem is that it's way less disrespectable than the Slugspecial X100. With the money one buys a gay Fuji one could just buy something desirable like a real rangefinder made in Europe. But no, slugs want the ugly fake vintage aesthetic and the wormy sensor because that's what they got shilled on Tiktok.
>>4460982Neat! Make sure you post lots of pictures to further enrage the nophotos hereIf you don't want bad feedback, don't mention Fuji and no one will knowIf you do mention Fuji when posting, brace for the hate
>>4460982Its poorly made takes phone quality photos has slow noisy autofocus and is weather sealed worse than a snoyhttps://www.reddit.com/r/fujifilm/comments/1dcoytc/fujifilm_x100vi_eyepiece_wearing_out_after_one/Fuji has less market share than any other camera company. They arent popular. They are heavily advertised on social media and produced in limited quantities to make people in the cult think they are.
The x100 is a really poorly made camera. Everything from the rattly build to the clunkiness of every moving part and common camera function (ie: autofocus, menus) calls back to all those disposable semi-premium consumer electronics toys of the mid 2000s (good enough but not great notebooks, mp3 players, etc) that were always 3 generations behind in tech and 1 generation behind in price. Except it's 2025, and it's a social media meme. So it's 10 generations behind and 1 generation ahead in price.The thing is literally a plastic shell that isn't truly weather sealed, it has wiggly doors ffs, and it's going up against better made and/or cheaper compacts that only lack sheer image quality - while targeting a market that doesn't give a fuck about sheer image quality. The x100vi isn't even pocketable so it also has to compete with people buying sony aps-c and even full frame and just slapping cheap shit samyang lenses on, and while sony has shit image quality, the x100vi market doesnt give a shit about shit image quality and sony's shitty green colors are just begging to be turned into a cinestill 800t film sim. If you don't like green, buy a ricoh gr III/X or an olympus/om system.Call fuji's general lack of quality soul if you want (autofocus worse than an a6500) but the slowish but functional dell notebook with finish rubbing off the plastic aesthetic is some really shitty fucking soul.https://www.reddit.com/r/fujifilm/comments/1b6re5b/x100vi_rear_dial_accuracy_issue/https://www.reddit.com/r/x100v/comments/1c7j8ot/shutter_speed_dial_broken/https://www.reddit.com/r/fujifilm/comments/y0zav4/x100v_front_command_dial_stuck_pushed_in/
>>4461102>>4461099Now do the same for other brands
>>4461102>>4461099Honestly, even sony isnt this bad.>>4461111He can't. Fuji barely sells any cameras, and has as many reported problems as canon who sells 50% of all cameras period.
>>4461102>for some stupid reason, take the single most hated feature of the canon AE-1 (pull shutter to change ISO) and puts it on a DIGITAL camera where changing the ISO happens often due to how digital sensors dont work anything like film>also make it out of plastic so it breaks soonera camera for people who look at but dont use cameras. made for the gear shelf.sometimes i wonder if the good shit is ugly and undershilled specifically to keep it away from people with gear shelves>fuji be like: 6% of the market share, 60% of the reddit/insta/jewtube shills
>>4461102> I'd 100% just send it in. I can't see this running more than $250. They also tend to clean them for free, so that's a bonus. Sorry this happened.Kek, $250 to fix a designer's retarded mistake, but you get it cleaned for free! so worth it bros
>>4461118only an idiot uses that wheel on top to change ISO anyway.if i'm not using auto ISO i have ISO assigned to the front command wheel. shutter speed assigned to the rear command wheel. allows you to adjust both without taking your eye away from the viewfinder.even without that ISO/shutter speed dial ontop the x100 cameras still have far superior physical interface to anything by sony or canon.
>>4461134>fuji is fine if you simply dont use half the design features and use it as a two dial camera just like every sony, nikon, pentax, olympus, and panasonicSony ironically has the best interface despite all the wannabe pros complaining about the ergos not being ideal for one handing a fat ugly fucking professonal zoom lens
>>4461137>aperture rings optional>one front dial for aperture, exposure comp, or ISO>back dial for shutter speed>second back dial for exposure comp or ISO>THIRD back dial for whatever the fuck you want, or turn it offSony has a lot of good ideas. They should have stuck with the design of the first gen a7s. Small and photo-centric, just a continuation of minolta's design philosophy like the full frame version of micro four thirds.
>>4461009You mean a Ricoh GR?
Once upon a time fuji had pocketable x100s. They were called the x70 and xf10.But they figured they'd rather have a cult of actual idiots they could treat like the clueless trash they are so they went all in on the X100 series. No serious photographic improvements since the original model! Only price hikes and megapixels!>w-well they added IBIS10 fucking years after olympus had "5 stop" IBIS that leveraged the low res of m43 to look more like 8 stop?
>>4461137*chafes your knuckles*
>>4461169Sony has a major identity crisisI LIKE this style of grip and this size of camera, but sony needs to get their head out of their ass and decide which models are professional "wide fixed aperture zoom and speedlite attached at all times" cameras and which models are "amateurs dont need any grip at all" models.The a7c, I think, was peak sony. No grip at all. it was designed like those old film camera that just had a slight battery bump. And then the a7cii came out and added the cramped "professional (almost) grip (if you could call it that)". What the fuck, sony?Their designers are perfectly capable of making the modern, high performance version of fuji cameras but they cant figure out how to separate FF cameras for the pro and amateur markets fo shit.
>>4461171Sony is not a camera company. They became successful as a combination of good market positioning strategy, the snowball effect of an open mount license (learning well from Canon EF), and the glacial progress of their competitors. Not because they make good cameras. Therein lies the source of the "identity crisis".
>>4461134>if i'm not using auto ISO i have ISO assigned to the front command wheel.Unfortunately not possible on X-Pro2 (and I think X100F)>>4461139Always felt like Nikon designed by photographers, Canon designed by engineers, and Sony designed by computer people>>4461166Pretty crazy their attempt to re-enter that product market was the X-Half lol, a modern X10/70 would be dope
>>4461173Sony is more of a camera company (minolta & bronica engineers) than canon (a printer company) desu. If you're familiar with how commitees fucking things up you can see the minolta and bronica cameras at the core of the "but mashimoto in marketing said we need to target this stereotype" fuckups.They make good cameras. But they are fucking up almost as much as nikon. Did you know nikon axed one piece mag-al frames? The Z6III, Z5II, ZF, and Z8 all have multi part frames now. the Z7II, Z6II, and Z9 had one solid hunk of metal.
>>4461173>good market positioning strategyThey have the best deals for employees and camera retail employees, at least half that I've met owned Sony with that pricing being a big reason. At least in my region, the most event and vendor support for local stores too.
>>4461175>nikon designed by photographers>awkwardly placed toggle buttons for ISO and ECNikon is designed by riflescope designersSony is designed by photographers and then assraped by marketersCanons are made out of recycled printersFujifilm imitates what they think nikon isPentax canceled all R&D in 2008Panasonic tried to repurpose a washing machine into a sony a7iiiLeica rebadges panasonics
>>4461180>Leica rebadges panasonicsNo, they just borrow tech that has no pressing need to be 'unique' to the brand (video, wifi, autofocus). The SL was introduced before the start of collaboration with Panasonic.
>>4461180>awkwardly placed toggle buttons for ISO and ECYou mean right where your fingers are? In the same area Canon also used for their DSLRs? Where Canon kept the EC on the R1 and a function button on may other R bodies?
>>4461180>Pentax canceled all R&D in 2008unironically the best of the bunch
>>4461182>just contort your index finger to press these little buttons AND thumb a wheel because we won't dare put two dials on the back right where your thumb freely pivotsrelease to change is an even worse designsony is one of the few brands that got this right. digital cameras have more settings than film ones. they need at least 3 dials.
>>4461186>aperture on lens (you shoot manual glass, don't you anon?)>auto ISO: on>auto SS: on>exposure comp on dialLet me guess, you need "more".
>>4461187yeah im not a creepy jew like that guy
>>4461188that's miroslav tichý, you ignoramus
>>4461190Wrong. That's fe2fucker
>>4461187>the ergonomic problem is not a problem just avoid using the functions nikon made less usable out of design retardationcopeis this the same nikon that made making a compact ff/apsc impossible because they had to have the most pixelpeepy lens mount?
>>4461195Oh I don't shoot Nikon. You're right, Nikon's controls are retarded. Just get a used Leica SL.
>>4461196Leica SL is even more retarded and charges 3k+ for shitty soft lenses and shitty autofocus. Might as well buy an old DSLR its the same thing.
>>4461197>t.
>>4461186But Sony has buttons in the same location lol
>>4461169The fuck? How did they OK this?
Best drunk purchases?This one is mine I was absolutely fucking blitzed when I ordered it and when it showed up I had no idea it was coming. It had my name on it and I signed for it and had to go back in my order history and verify I ordered it, this thing is coming with me to my grave. Absolutely zero regrets and they cost more now.
>>4460982i have one and love it
>>4461180Nikon's D5xxx layout is second to none.
>>4460982thats nice at first you can cover body scratch with black textmark and later when it is nonworking broken place it at table as decoration
>>4461276looks like micro four thirds
>>4461169>>4461237>snoy isnt a meme camer-ACK!
>>4461276
>>4461048>chud hat>chud glasses>chud beard>chud castle>chud renfaire
>>4461386i'll accept everything except renfaireit was not a renaissance fairi did not attend a renaissance fair
>>4460982things that didnt happen. they are popular for a reason, sony shill
>>4461341>buy compact hobby camera>put fuckhuge professional lens on it>"oh no it's uncomfortable if I hold it wrong">>4461405>they are popular6% market sharethey are unreliable cameras that are multiple generations behind the second cheapest canon APS-C (ie: r50) in basics such as autofocus reliability and image qualitythe vast majority of people who buy cameras buy a crop sensor canon. in second is sony, in third is nikon. fujifilm is not even fourth, it is a distant straggler competing with other literally whos that only look popular if you're in the right social media algorithm bubble like OM system and panasonic.
>>4461423None of that goes against the fact they are popular
>>4461426homie, you just hit "per capita is just a theory" levels of dumb.
>>4461423>buy compact hobby camera>put fuckhuge professional lens on itCorrect. Sony does not make professional cameras and never has. Their position in the market was a fluke and after nikon finishes migrating RED sensor tech to their ILCs, sony will go back to making silly hobbyist cameras.
>>4461435That may be, but still not as dumb as the comment I replied to
>>4461439Fuji isnt popular in real life anonYour social media algorithm bubble just exposes you to it disproportionately
>>4461451I was looking at sales stats, not social media
>>4461487Every source other than fuji themselves says they are a distant fourth. Definitely not popular.
>>4461497Yes, just like Google being the 4th largest company, it's also not popular at all. What a good point!>other than fuji themselvesWhat do you mean by this? Does Fuji themselves claim otherwise?
Fuji has 6% market share. Canon has 50%. Sorry kiddos your cult brand is not popular.
>>4461499>Sorry kiddos your cult brand is not popular.If you think popularity = market share of new bodies sold, sure.
>>4460982Those are nice cameras. Picrel arrived today. Awaiting incoming derision and chastisement.
>>4461506As one of the resident Fuji stans, X-E5 still makes no sense to me over alternatives (X-M5, X-T5, X100VI). Much more features for the same price and a minimal size increase, or basically the same in an even more compact body.
>>4461509Ya, I get where you and a lot of other people are coming from. I wanted x-e5 over x-m5 because of the viewfinder, which really helps (me at least) on sunny days, and over x100vi because interchangeable lenses. I know x-t5 is a great camera but I wanted a rangefinder looking camera. X-e5 is no doubt expensive, but I saved for it, so I didn't have to gut my bank account. Looking forward to shooting with it this weekend, I'm pretty stoked, actually.
>>4460982my current fuji x bodies are xpro2 and xt3. i've come and gone out of wanting an x100 but i'm good where i'm at as well. the idea of the flexibility of two ilc bodies is appealing, but practically, i will most likely never need more than the xt3. maybe if i ever see a black v for 1400, i'll snag one..>>4461506i'm a fellow fujifreind on the xe5, they lost me with adding a film sim dial while still omitting an iso dial. but i am compelled by the lens. i have the 27mm 2.8 rn and it's pretty solid but the two things i wish for are wider fov and closer focus capability. pls share results from the 23.
>>4461506Shouldve been an f/2. go home fuji, youre drunk.
>>4461544At the very least should've switched to the LM motors of the Fujicrons, not the slow and noisy motor of the 27 f2.8
>$2,700 AUD>APS-C>Lens doesn't come off>Not even a fast lens>Rangefinder 'style', real rangefinder omitted>Sub average build quality>Not even particularly good looking
>>4461699>posers care more about muh authentik and muh retro stoyle>... cares more about gear than photography>/p/ is a gear board
You're not a real fujifag if you don't have an x100 tattoo
>>44617014chan "gearfags" are about value propositions and calling companies greedy ripoff factories. I would hardly call them gearfags. Most of them only use cheaper gear. They are closer to being communists than gearfags. The sovl crowd, sony hate crowd, and brand=status crowd are true gearfags but they’re outnumbered by commies who call companies out on their shit. And the commies are right. Cameras plateaued, prices did not, and some brands are blatantly screwing people and passing off their incompetence as style because most people outside 4chan are gearfagsGearfag mindset: this camera makes me a real artist. i have a soul because it has a soul. i have quality photos because it takes quality photos. i cant take good photos or be a photographer with less. No one can. It doesnt have problems YOU have problems SKILL ISSUE. /p/ "gearfag": The autofocus is too slow for its price. Buy a used 5dIII consoomer faggot.
>>4461539>still omitting an iso dialI hate how Japs consider that a compact camera can only have two control dials. Even when there'a space on the left (where otherwise a popup flash could be), they just don't want to put a useful dial there.
>>4461715japs are overly obsessed by aesthetics>ooooh this dial messes up with my aura and feng shui oooooh must commit seppuku this button is not pleasing to look at.
>>4461048>>4461276>>4460982Do any X100 owners actually use the optical viewfinder? Whener I see people using one the little blind is up for the EVF.
YOU DON'T NEED LEICA CAMERA THAT COST MORE THAN AVERAGE SOVIET HOUSEWIFEYOU DON'T NEED IMPERIALIST JAP CANNON OR KNEE-CON THAT TAKE 13FPS OF CAT ON AMERICAN LAZEE-BOY SOFAYOU DON'T NEED POLOROID FOR TAKE OF PICTURE ON TUMBLING WEBSITE OF HIPSTERBUY SOVIET RANGEFINDER CAMERA. ZORKI, KIEV OR FED CAMERA OF UKRAINE IS FINE! IS DESIGNED FROM NAZI CONTAX AND LEICA II AFTER SOVIET ARMY HUMILIATE THEM. OR BUY LENINGRAD CAMERA MADE BY GOSUDARSTVENNYI OPTIKO-MEKHANICHESKII ZAVOD WHO MAKE OPTIC OF T34 TANK THAT HUMILIATE NAZI TIGER IN GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR.BUY 5CM LENS. LEARN HOW TO FOCUS BEFOREHANDS TO ANTICIPATE SUBJECT. LEARN HOW SUBJECT INTERACT IN AND OUT OF FRAME. SHOOT BLACK AND WHITE FILM. SMENA IS FINE! DON'T SHOOT SLIDE FILM AND DEVELOP IN DRUGGIST PHOTO MACHINE. THAT MAKES YOU HIPSTER ASSHOLE WHO RELY ON MISTAKES. MISTAKES GET YOU KILLED LIKE BASTARD NAZI ARMY WHO DECIDE TO FIGHT IN WINTER OF GLORIOUS MOTHERLAND.YOU DONT NEED FUJI CAMERA WITH WORM ON SENSOR OF CAPITALIST AMERICAN MYSPACE RETARD GIRL. GO AND TAKE PICTURE LIKE GREAT SOVIET MAN
>>4461715Sony has entered the chat>optional lens aperture ring>front dial>THREE rear dialsAs much as blobbers whine about grips, sony's ergos are very good if you're a normal person instead of a bazooka lens blobber with arthritis.
>>4461730This rhetoric sounds really good until you use a soviet camera only to find it lasts about 2 rolls of film before shit starts falling off or seizing. Sorta the same for most soviet tech I've used.
>>4461736Sony should spend more on build quality rather than having four fuckin dials, since their cameras always fall apart and everyone that shoots sony keeps it in auto anyways.
>>4461739You got them mixed up with fujiOn sony the worst that happens is some gimmick gasket might degrade earlier instead of later and it won't matter because nothing that isn't a pentax with an AW lens, a nikon pro body with an S lens, or an olympus -1 series with a PRO lens, or canon R5 or greater model with an RF L lens, is actually weather sealed. Of course, no sony at all is fully weather sealed, but it's excusable for their amateur cameras because no one fully seals amateur cameras.
>>4461703I just can't with people
>>4461703how come your stomach has a zipper
>>4461736>WEE WOO WEE WOO CALL THE COPPERS THE BLOBBERS ARE HERE
>>4461703Man I hope you're a woman with a kind of manly arm because stupid tattoos are 0% acceptable on men what with their heightened self awareness and all
>>4461744>snoy is better than the very very worst!!!1) who cares2) probably not even true
>>4461795Sony is quite good if you don't expect to use a camera without a rain cover (weather sealing degrades over time/heat cycling and isn't waterproofing so you should use a cover anyways)
>>4461768It's clearly a woman you fool. Look at the rings.
>>4461736When I had a A7C with the 40mm Sigma lens, there was no way to set the camera where you could choose the aperture with the aperture ring or set it to auto. It's retarded.
Did the same but for a GRIIIX HDF. Haven't had a chance to go out and use it yet but I'm sure I'm going to love it.
>>4461811Turn the ring to A and use the dial/dpad. It's a FF a6600.
sold my x100v couple months ago and now regret is kicking in. Now every time i go out with my x-t5 i keep looking at my lens collection for half an hour and can't decide which one to bring with me. >ooooh i'll bring that 16mm for those wide angle shots.>ooooooh need my 55-200 for some sweet tele reach>end up with 4 lenses in my bag>keep switching them>Shots look like shit because i spent time messing with focal length instead of thinking about compositionI might be autistic.
>>4462258You're a consoomerist. FOMO is one of the core values of consoomerism. The others are regret, indignance, and the sunk cost fallacy. It's a purely negative lifestyle because unhappy people are more likely to make rash decisions with their money, and the entire culture of consoomerism was intelligently designed by corporate america. It's not a natural phenomenon.Consoomerism is not spending more money than someone else, or having nicer things than someone else and calling worse stuff junkIt's feeling a need to spend money to control yourself and alleviate bad feelings, no matter how poor or rich you areThe least consoomerist thing you could do now is just use what you have and stop caring.
>>4462258>needs to have the whole range from 16 to 200mm This is a great way to never end up with a solid shooting style that is your own. Pick one damn prime that feels as close to normal to you as possible, git gud using it, and only then think about getting one wider prime and/or one tele prime as complements.
>>4462518>prime crutch as a replacement for doing actual art with an actual styleoooh darling
>>4462571>prime>crutch>implying the "artists" you love aren't all using primesAre you implying zooms are not a crutch? What is your actual point?
>>4462571Every art photographer is either using primes or 24-70 kit lenses.16 to 200 coverage is for weddings and paid journalism
>>4462571Have you tried not raping puppies?>>4462531>>4462532You are genuine subhuman filth. Your own parents would cheer while you got gutted alive by a pack of feral apes.
>>4462584its funny cinefag is a nazi but he’s the kinda guy that hitler wouldnt even shoot personally because his luger deserved betterhitler would hand him over to mengele
>>4461118>for some stupid reason, take the single most hated feature of the canon AE-1 (pull shutter to change ISO)According to who? Beanie wearing faggots on youtube that just picked up their first roll of film last week?Retarded feature to add to a digital camera I will agree but for film it makes perfect sense and was the norm at the time.
>>4462583>16 to 200 coverage is for weddings and paid journalismtrue, most great photos happen between 24mm and 85mm
Every now and again I want to impulse buy the meme camera but then I realize its probably because the guy who made me want one just knows how to edit. Or I'm wrong and the camera really does just make snapshits look good
>>4462613Just selectively desaturate colors, teal your greens, and jack up the blacks. Fuji doesnt have le jpeg magic its just putting the slider values in before shooting. It turns out sometimes but for it to turn out every time its a waste of time for people who like using digital camera menus, shooting less, and fiddling more.
>>4462613looks like iphone hdr>>4462621all two times ive seen a fuji in the wild they were messing with the back screen instead of taking a photo
>>4462628that doesn't look anything like a phone picture.
>>4462621>Just selectively desaturate colors, teal your greens, and jack up the blacks.Yeah I've noticed that a lot of fuji shots look really desaturated yet the colors still pop and everything looks really warm. I'm definitely their core demo since I'm just a casual retard but I chose snoy instead. The x100vi just seemed like a good pick because I exclusively use 35mm anyway (not much of a difference) and it seemed like fuji cameras pulled off the digital filmic look well for casual snapshits whereas the same shots on a sony look like they came out of a boomer's flickr album
>>4462636Are you not making your own presets? Fuji spoonfeeds, sony expects a user.Neither is capable of looking anything like real film btw
>>4462638>Are you not making your own presets?I honestly never have lmao, for the 10 years I've had LR I've always just gone through the shots I really liked and edited them however I felt worked best>Neither is capable of looking anything like real film btwOh yeah ofc, and you said it yourself >Fuji spoonfeeds, sony expects a user.I like the imitative film look that Fuji's put out, even though it could be had through editing on any other system it still looks unique to me imo but again maybe I'm retarded
>>4462613I'm sorry but this looks like complete shit. It's like a cheap copy of a Wes Anderson palette (which is already corny to begin with). Just kitsch.>>4462629>>that doesn't look anything like a phone picture.>35mm f2 that can't resolve the 40MP >smartphone tier detail smearing>fake grain>fake colorsI think you just have a case of wishful thinking. Read this, an actually non-paid review of the camera for once:https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-fujifilm-x100vi-the-hype-camera/>>4462636>the colors still pop and everything looks really warm>fuji cameras pulled off the digital filmic look wellNeither are true besides your pointing out the obviously overbaked and ugly fake "warmth". Please improve your taste before posting quality judgments about equipment. You can do this by shooting RAW and learning to develop. The problem with Fuji users is that they're skipping the necessary adolescent stage of learning to develop pictures, where you're experimenting with silly shit like cross processing, extreme tone curve shifts, "retro looks", and so forth, before you eventually arrive at a good, TRANSPARENT style (where the 'look' of the image draws the least amount of attention of all its qualities). This results in a class of low-tier hobbyists whose images are all 'look' and no substance, like that snapshit of the Swiss ferry, or pic related.
>>4461703>man hands>girly as fuck ringuh oh
>>4462756>I'm sorry but, [in my opinion], this looks like complete shit. >I think it’s like a cheap copy of a Wes Anderson palette (which is already corny to begin with). >Just kitsch, I thinkFTFY
>>4462756>>4462758https://old.reddit.com/r/fujifilm/comments/1bbhpyw/thoughts_from_a_first_time_fuji_user_with_an/>I convinced myself if I just had those Fuji colors, all my photos would all look amazing!Lmao at the fried motel.
>>4462761>But fml you can’t even mention it without being bombarded with opinions. You know what? I’m not dedicating my life to photography. I don’t fucking want to start renting lenses. I don’t want to learn Lightroom. I am shit at tweaking in post and guess what, I don’t want to turn photography into a fucking computer skill.Holy fucking cope.X100VI users around the world are realizing they fell victim to somebody else's Get Rich Quick scheme when they could've just purchased say a Z30 with 26mm pancake, and "learned Lightroom" (really just installing any preset pack and dragging a couple sliders) for a fraction of the cost, and been better off too. It would be funny if it wasn't sad.
>>4461102>buy a ricoh gr III/Xwhat's the point having another iPhone lvl pic quality machine in your pocket?>or an olympus/om system.bodies and lenses are more expensive than FF counterparts and aren't that small if you think about having anything more than f2.8 (35mm equivalent)
>>4462756What does fake grain or “fake colors” have to do with phone pictures? Thats not what makes something look like an iPhone photo, it’s the extremely obvious HDR and bracketing, and the boat picture doesn’t have that. Also these photos are way too low res for there to be any “smeary details”. I’m not arguing that Fujis are great cameras, because I don’t think they are, but they don’t do all the computational stuff like phones
>>4462786>what's the point having another iPhone lvl pic quality machine in your pocket?You're thinking of the X100VI (or actually any X-Trans camera). The GR is Bayer and produces results like any recent APS-C body paired with a good lens (if not better - the 28mm on the GRIII is literally THE best 28mm equivalent lens for APS-C ever produced in history).
>>4462788>What does fake grain or “fake colors” have to do with phone pictures?In both cases, fake grain is (preferentially) applied by the user/JPG engine to hide the ugly mushy details of X-Trans and smartphone sensors alike (you'll recall that VSCO for smartphones was massively popular until the advent of the digicam trend).By "fake colors" I mean colors that are very obviously doctored to achieve a currently trendy, kitschy "look" that is based on some nebulous faux-nostalgic concept of what film (especially Kodachrome) supposedly used to look like. It's spiritually identical to being in 2014 and posting a picture with pic rel IG filter.Please develop a transparent editing style that does not scream "I downloaded a shitfluencer recipe".
>>4462792Based objective reality enjoyer shaming artistic interpretation enthusiasts.
>>4462812I wouldnt call a shitty preset box you paid for artistic interpretation lol. Art means creating something yourself on purpose. Its a low bar even street photography is art. Buying a camera loaded with presets is not art its a camera with shitty effects loaded on. >fujixweekly please create more creativity for me to punch into my camera -fuji’s "real artistic photographers who are real artists because they care about the only valid aesthetic, hipster twee" at their greatest>i made my own colorchecker with custom colors to create a new look - average pentax enjoyer
>>4462816>Art means creating something yourself on purpose.I can make art on purpose with an X100IV. Your definition incorporates every kind of tool and instrument.>Buying a camera loaded with presets is not art.False, since, by your own definition, someone can make art on purpose with an X100VI. >It’s a camera with shitty effects loaded on, [in my opinion].FTFY
>>4462931you canbut you won’tfuji is primarily marketed to people who dont think these memes are a joke
>>4462792youre being obtuse, the digicam trend is precisely because of all of the computational sludge and extreme bracketing phones do, and people trying to avoid that. it has nothing to do with VSCO and instagram filter trends from 14 years ago.the phone look is HDR overly sharpened images, not Instagram filters.
>>4460982i had an x100f for a while before going to an x-t4 for the interchangeable lenses but i do miss the compact designits a very nice camera and if you got the newest model i can only assume its nicer than the f and you wont regret it check out the film recipies and play around with it, lots of fun and beautiful images
>>4462963fuji could easily make an x-t camera smaller than the x100. just look at sony's a7c, and it's actually better weather sealed than a fuji (sad but true).they just hate everyone.
>>4461730 B A S E D
>>4462964why are you sony people so bitter and angry?
>>4462966>you sony peopleI shoot nikon, the superior cameras.Sony is merely slightly better than fuji and it's pretty sad that fuji simply doesn't make good cameras. No wonder they're not actually popular, just astroturfed on the internet.
>>4462972im pretty sure fuji makes digital cameras simply because they think it will convince people to stop buying film. fuji actively hates film. no one knows why. they just do.
>>4461730Need? there is more to life than just needs, you commie PoS.
>>4462966>why are you sony people so bitter and angry?Sony shooters are generally very insecure and quick to lash out at anything they deem a threat.
>>4462976It’s because there is no money in film. The money to be made in the analog era was from printing to film or photographic paper, but considering almost nobody does that anymore, it’s a tough business. The film stock itself was marginally profitable, all film stock is obscenely priced now to make up for the loss of photographic printing.Even snapshits had to get printed, and a bad movie still required hundreds of miles of print film for distribution, but not anymore.
>>4462981And you can rightfully call Fuji cameras a gimmick or toys, but they saw the writing on the wall and now can barely keep up with demand while Kodak declares bankruptcy every month.
>>4462966>>4462980Yeah I'm thinking this is a clive samefag (he has been banned from every single photography community for being online 24/7 and sockpuppeting to try and shill against sony, and has since landed on /p/. we only know because he had shit opsec and kept posting simultaneously on sonyalpharumors and bragging about it until he ran out of burner emails.)
>>4462995We know. He literally never fucking shuts up. It's sad that /p/ can no longer assume any criticism of sony is valid. We could actually dislike sony at some point but now it's impossible because anything could be clive sockpuppeting or making shit up.>inb4 clive goes "durr who's clive clive isnt real meds meds meds" and inevitably starts freaking about pancakes
>>4462980>>4462966No other brand gets this butthurt for some reason
>>4462997no other brand has had the shinji avatar loser from various forums bitching about it for 10 monthsbelieve me when canon hate schizo was here it was the same shit. one day you will leave.
>>4462997Its a nikon user calling fuji pathetic for being unable to outdo one of the worst brands clive you faggot. Go away already. Stop trying to make everything about sony. We know you make every /gear/ now. jesus christ fuck off already. /p/ would almost NEVER talk about snoy without you. you make EVERYTHING about fucking sony. WE DO NOT FUCKING CARE ABOUT SONY.
>>4463014>>4462980>>4462966Again, I shoot nikon.Anon is correct. Stop making everything about fucking snoy. I brought it up to insult failjifilm, as in "they can't even build a camera better than sony", not "sony is good". No, both fujifilm and sony make horrible cameras. Right now sony's FF market share is tanking and fuji is irrelevant outside of their astroturfing.Post skin tone and camera or leave. I am 99% sure you're actually paid by sony to stir up controversy around the brand and you talk like an ESL.>>4463017>>4463014One day clive, cinefag, and cANON will all die and we will know peace.
>>4463020the shills tactics are clearfor a while it worked like this>shill: sony makes the worst cameras, they explode and have no pancakes>shill: sir have you considered this sony camera and this sony lens *starts trying to make a sale*>shill: argh, i am stupid!>shill: not either of them but i just bought a sony!This behavior totally ceased as soon as it was pointed out. I think they're trying to find a new schtick.
>>4462997Its autism and consumerism. Happens on every board when they make something their entire identity.
>>4463050looks like they’re shitting on sony to me
>>4463050Theyre the female millennial equivalent of loving harry potter. >omg brand/product is number one no matter what!
>>4463020>One day clive, cinefag, and cANON will all die and we will know peace.At this point, you can go too
>>4463333>one day the samefag schizo will leave instead of patrolling /p/ 24/7 to defend their favourite consoomer brand and having conversations with themselvesIf only. But we all know he will be here forever because he doesnt have a life
>>4460982welcome to the club. always make sure to tell everyone how you shot the photo with a "fuji" whenever sharing. Always. People will find it annoying but don't worry, the world needs to know that you shot with a fuji.
>>4462258>end up with 4 lenses in my bag>keep switching themAnon, this is normal. I have a 24mm, a 50mm and a 85mm on me at all times, and I decide which one to swap to based on the comp I want. It doesn't make you think less about composition, it makes you think more about it lol
I drunk purchased it too what am I in for?
>>4465036> Fuji users are alcoholics.Who knew.
>>4460982Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Oh my god you people are so annoyingI
>>4460985Don't hurt me like that.
>>4460982I just bought one a couple weeks back and took it on a trip where I got to use it extensively. I like it! It's a pretty easy to use camera although for some reason the battery it comes provided with is major ass and dies after like 30 minutes. The other batteries I bought were fine thoughI was hesitant at first to buy a fixed lens camera but I realized that on a lot of vacations I went to, especially trips to the beach, I would just end up not bringing my other cameras because I knew that I wouldn't want to lug a bunch of lens around. The small size of the camera is a plus as far as I'm concernedAlso one time I took it to a concert and they only let me bring it in because it was a fixed lens, so I guess that's a perk
>>4465033>>4465033Nah I get what that anon means cause I've been there before. Yes the multiple lenses give you access to much more potential compositions but in practice you focus more on the focal length then just getting a good shot. For instance imagine a bird flies up next to you. You want to get a picture of it so you start fiddling with the lens to get a longer focal length, but by the time you finish the bird has fucked off, or moved to a different spot so the shot is worse. Any shot is better than just straight up missing one cause of being overly focused on the perfect focal length.
>>4467031It's a great camera for people who don't realize money is worth something and do not quite register that they just spent enough to have a 7 week emergency food stockpile on a digital camera from 2013
>>4467034>spent enough to have a 7 week emergency food stockpileif you need to plan this you shouldn't be spending that type of money anyways
>>4467042Everyone needs to plan like that, and people smart enough to, do not pay fuji $2000 for a crappy digital camera from 2013, relabeled for 2025, that gets outdone by an e-m5iii
>>4462258>be me>4 lenses in my bag>all of them primes in the telephoto range>all of them vintage and manual-focus>only use 2 of them on a given outing>get the shots I wantYou have to know yourself well enough to know what shots you're looking for. Go out with one lens on your camera and nothing else. Maybe a spare battery or two and some filters.If it works and you know why, perfect.If it works and you don't know why, spend more time with it and figure out why.If it doesn't work and you know why, make it work or stop using the lens.If it doesn't work and you don't know why, spend more time with it to figure out why.It's really that simple, and I don't know why people don't figure this out on their own. You will never get all the photos, so focus on which ones you can get and want to get. For example, the reason I settled into telephoto lenses is because I couldn't get the photos I was seeing when I would go out with just a wide-angle, so I stopped using wide-angle lenses.In your case, you're not getting the photos you want when you go out with 4 different lenses at a time, so stop using 4 different lenses at a time.>But what if I miss out on some shots!??>>4462271Take your own photos. No one else determines which shots you shouldn't or shouldn't miss out on. Why would you run around and act like some teeny bopper somewhere, for someone else's shots? You take the photos, man, you pack the bag. The camera's yours. You press the shutter button.
>>4467034>>4467049But it's not a digital camera from 2013. You wouldn't be able to make a camera as small as it is back then. And I didn't spend $2000 for it. You rounded up too much. And $1600 isn't a 7 week emergency food stockpile is worth. Learn what instant ramen is dude
>>4468262>4 lensesbloat. if you were a real artist you'd need only one prime
>>4468268>ramen>i want to die from vitamin b deficiencyhttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37805367/
>>4468269Sorry, anon. Next time I won't disappoint you.
>>4468268>Its not a digital camera from 2013It is.Soft lens.Grinding, slow autofocus.Low resolution despite megapixel number.Poor build quality with dials flying off, wheels getting pushed in, and the finish chipping off.An x100vi is indistinguishable from silvery high mid end consoomer ewaste from 2013. That is what it was, and always has been, because fuji has never actually improved the camera, only the spec sheet, and for the lifespan of the model line [1]fuji has focused more and more on lifestyle marketing because as far as they and anyone else can see, the only reason anyone ever bought an x100 was because other cameras were uglier.>You wouldn't be able to make a camera as small as it is back thenThe x100 is not small. At all. It's actually somewhat large, perpetually larger than the competing sony and m43 bodies (nex 6 and em5 in 2013), and remains so large that other companies felt comfortable making their aps-cs larger than they have to be and fitting in superior featuresets for the same amount of money... and often less. Go to [1].The x100 series has never been a good camera. It is designed and marketed as a fashion accessory with a flashy spec sheet and very little goes into making a good photographic tool rather than a good toy for larpers who want to feel like the photographer they aren't.
>>4461730And if you want to RP as a commie while being a rich 1st world kid, they made a new camera just for you!Will go nicely with your 1500$ designer ushanka hat.
>>4468275Fuji claims the x100vi has seven stop IBIS but most users report that it’s barely good enough to shoot at 1/41/30 is standard sharp speed for the fov1/15 1/8 1/42-3 stop ibis. Jej! $2000 camera! And people gave sony shit for this exact like 10 years ago. Now the a7cii is good to go for 1s shots.
>>4468308Ok but is the Sony FUN?
At least it will have a good story behind it. My favorite camera isn’t the best, is the one that has survived the most adventures.
>>4468312every camera is equally fun. if you disagree, you probably just don't like photography.
>>4468411Equally fun? Equally? Are you sure?
>>4461048Everyone ITT calling this guy ugly or a fag is absolutely delusional
>>4460982I’m on the razors edge for buying one. I’d really like a slim travel camera for when I go my family cruise this fall. Something satisfying to take photos with, not bulky, but also high quality enough that people won’t think I’m a perv if I take shots on deck or on shore excursions.
>>4469807>but also high quality$2000 cameraautofocus from 2012soft lensblurry sensoras much gross digital noise as an iphonehttps://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/7109242674/fujifilm-x100vi-sample-gallery/7548048628https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.prod.dpreview.com/sample_galleries/7109242674/7548048628.jpg$2000 camera with 3 stop ibis overrated with sony-like marketing (6 stop ibis should run for over a second, the majority of x100vi users report not being able to shoot an exposure longer than 1/6th, with is doable with a 35mm fov without ibis if you don't have parkinsons)and NO x100 has ever been weather sealed EVER.https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4657904fuji is just sony in a thrift store sport jacket and a hat. it's not even small. it's bigger than a sony aps-c. don't fall for the social media hype. the x100s and fujis in general are not popular cameras in real life. they have less market share even than nikon. almost no one buys them. the majority of fujis sales are to chinese people who are chronically appearance obsessed but also afraid of the government spying on their phones, and unable to afford leicas which in chinese culture is the only real option for a digital camera that does not bring shame to your family.
>>4469807An olympus OM-5 would unironically take higher quality photos. If you want low quality just crank the ISO and add blur in post for instant xtrans.
>>4469807The new Ricoh is probably for you
>>4468282WHY YOU NEED F1.0 LENS FOR TAKEING PICTURE OF FLOWER AT MINIMAL FOCUS LENGTH OR BACK OF PERSONS HEAD??? THAT IS NOT REAL ZENIT, THAT IS LEICA M240 WITH 6-BIT CODE REMOVED. EVEN USE SAME M-MOUNT LENS AS NAZI BASTARD CAMERA. IF SPEND ALMOST FIVE THOUSAND FUCKING EUROS ON DIGITAL M CAMERA GET ACTUAL LEICA NOT SHITTY KNOCK OFF THAT COST AS MUCH AS 20 SOVIET HOUSEWIFE. FIVE THOUSAND EURO CAN BUY REAL ZENIT CAMERA MADE IN SOVIET UNION AND HAVE 4900 LEFT OVER FOR TRAVEL AS LONG AS YOU GET PERMISSION FROM COMRADE COMMISAR.
I found one of these just off the trail while hiking to a waterfall in Washington last year. Had a bunch of pics of someone's dog on the memory card.Judging by the date stamps on the most recent photos, it had been out there more than a month before I found it, so I brought it home and dried it thoroughly before charging it and attempting to power it on. I got the light on the back to light up, but nothing displays on the LCD. Still might try to disassemble it and see if I can fix it, though it looks like there's moisture in the lens, so it might be toast.
>>4469811>schizo essay ramblingsmeds
>>4460982I did the same thing but with the XE-5. I am pleased with it so far.
>>4469807To me it's super satisfying to take pictures with and has been the perfect travel camera for me. Ricoh GR will be more compact for sure but the x100vi will feel more like a camera. It's also surprisingly light weightAlso for what it's worth I've had strangers compliment the camera while i was using it, so people will at least respect it and not think you're a perv>>4469811A sony aps-c will only be smaller if you shell out for a pancake lens
>>4469811>https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.prod.dpreview.com/sample_galleries/7109242674/7548048628.jpg$2000 camera lmfao. Dear god this looks like shit. A sad reminder that "stop pixel peeping" is only said by fujifags who don't want people to realize their $2000 camera renders images like an iphone.>google ibis claimshttps://fujilove.com/hands-on-with-the-fujifilm-x100vi/>While I could not precisely test this claim, I could capture very usable photographs at speeds as low as 1/16 sec while handholding the camera and, depending on the light, even 1/4 sec was usable for some situations.That is definitely not six stops. 1/16th is 1 stop, 1/8th is 2, 1/4th is 3.Fuji is consumer garbage for the same people that buy moleskine notebooks, fender jazzmasters, earthquaker devices pedals, mechanical keyboards, and fountain pens.
>>4470290>Fuji is consumer garbage for the same people that buy moleskine notebooks, fender jazzmasters, earthquaker devices pedals, mechanical keyboards, and fountain pens.you sound like a bitter poorfag
>>4470325Anyone can afford all that shit but only a terminally gay soiboi would choose it over things that are actually good, like les pauls, marshall tube heads, film, guns, ammo, and drugs.
>>4470325>people who buy $1000 dildos are gay>can’t afford it huh?
>>4470325He is. He's always writing essays to justify his poverty.
>You sound poor!>Can't afford it?>Get a job!>You're just justifying your poverty!>The waste of money in question:Remember kids, just because you CAN afford it, does not mean you SHOULD buy it. And if someone calls something "overpriced junk", that does not mean they can't afford it and secretly want it. It can, and usually does, mean it's overpriced junk. But in these dark days where kids come out as "anthro fox dickgirls" and then murder random other kids at school for no reason, apparently the meaning of "should" has been completely and utterly lost (i guess it was too fascist and oppressive?)
>>4470362there is no reasoning with fujislugs and other such consumerists. they are immune to common sense. and they believe that they are better people because of it.the mind virus that made women spend thousands on purses and shoes has finally made its way to men now that pollution has tanked testosterone levels and sperm counts. with testosterone, logic, and facts fully phased out by corporate america, it's generation vibe.
>>4470362>>4470363samefag schizo
money wasting gearfags btfoi respect you less if you have any fuji or use a full frame camera without being a paid professional.you don't need it, you dont benefit from it, you paid extra to feel like you're someone cooler than you are mostly based on your own delusions. everyone around you just thinks you're stupid and trying to buy your way into having the skills you never will. no one cares about your "film sims" or "vibe". no one cares about your 40mp or color science or that you did it with jpeg instead of "cheating" with a raw. if you did everything with a sony nex 5n or a canon m50 the few people who actually see your photos besides you wouldn't notice or care.you will look back on this period of gearfaggotry and be disgusted with yourself. all that money and you never even tasted success. you were always a pretender.
>>4470366Expensive cameras are kind of a trailer park cope desuThe selective worldview makes it easy to pretend you live another lifeOther people see your camera but not your houseMost people dont know what it is and think its fancier than it really isThe pricetags are high enough to deter sane people but not too high for trailer/apartment losers with mid jobs like construction to afford (as long as they’re childless and skipped college)They have a lot in common, sociologically, with luxury watches, electric guitar, guns, and motorcycles.
>>4470366>>4470367take your meds already
>>4470368>stop criticizing my "lifestyle" purchasesConspicuous consumption is bad, bad for you, and for a bad version of you. Be better. Stop wasting money on bullshit. Buying a new camera never made anyone a better photographer. It usually does the opposite.
>>4470368>no way could multiple people be against spending two grand on iphone quality and a slow autofocus lens that goes BZZZZZZZT. dont they know it has official brandname lightroom presets on the camera?
>Gm saars!
>>4470369being this schizo about what other people like and buy is worse
>third worlders unironically think $2k is an obscene life-changing amount of money to spend on a hobbyDamn that's grim
>>4470374>my magic first world powers!You mean your blue collar loser with no kids powers >>4470372>criticizing my bad life choices is le schizo and bad
>>4470379I'm calling you a schizo for caring so much about what other people buy, sorry you have trouble reading>criticizing my bad life choices is le schizo and badYou can criticize my life choices all you want, idgaf, if I did, surely I would've stopped a long time ago, wouldn't I?
>>4470390>ugh stop caring about what other people doSad loser cope
>>4470393please stop projecting ITT
>>4470393>ugh stop caring about what other people doYou really can't read, can you? Did I say to stop? I just said it makes you schizo, which it does>sad dishonesty
>>4461341There's a reason top tier canon and nikon cameras are huge.
>>4470290Looks exactly like sony
>>4470406to be fair rx1 are the only good sony cameras
>>4470405FF doesn't have to mean huge. My M10 is tiny.
>>4470415Just like ur girldick
>>4470418Protip, learn to use your tongue and women will rarely complain about your dick. Learn to do it well and there's little they'll say no to.
>>4460982you did goodcant be that drunk as still see credit card print
>>4470415If I had $5000 to spend on a body alone, it is what I’d get, especially if I could justify giving up on autofocus. The Leica lenses are so compact, and I really like the look that the vintage ones have. Not sure if it’s really this magical Leica Look, as much as the photographers who use those cameras being more skilled on average
>>4470483I still have other cameras and I have a couple of really genuinely nice rendering Voigtlander and Thypoch lenses in m-mount but I just almost never end up using anything but my M10 and my 50 Summicron - I just never feel the urge to shoot anything but that now. If you’re patient there can be deals on the secondhand market
>>4470415And the sony a7c is even smallerIt pays not to be a 3d pop/mojo and soul (larping) schizo
>>4470517It pays to sell your ass to Asian businessmen but unlike you I’m not gay.
>>4470519>Some chad: Sony has [objective advantage] at the cost of [hallucinated flaw]. It is simply a photographic tool, a camera for the shooting man.>Some incel: *totally unrelated screeching*Why are non-sony shooting dweebs like this?You know, you dont see many sony users on /p/, but it's the most popular FF brand... consider: thats because /p/ is all nophotos and depressed losers in their respective slumps, and sony chads are too busy shooting and posting sick shots on IG to have time to argue about nikon "auto" "focus", canon's innovations in takedown telephotos, and fuji's price to worms ratio.
>>4470530I see nothing but pro-snoy and anti-snoy rhetroic on this god forsaken board. Nikon's entire memeability is that their AF is shit. Canon's is the cripplehammer blobmera. Pentax and OM System have kind of just quietly died. Etc. Etc. There is a HEAVY bias towards snoy-centric conversation on this board despite the pretty consistent fact that all camera brands have their own problems. Neo-modern Nikon might be the only cameras that I can't find fault with.I am convinced faggots like you who say "it's the most popular FF brand" are paid shills, because no other brandwaring faggots for other brands have to constantly reaffirm their favourite sports team quite like Snoybois (You).Do it. Prove me right. Respond to this post and prove you're a shill who is contractually obligated to defend snoy at all costs.Or don't respond and you'll be admitting I've struck a nerve. Either way people like me who just go fucking use their camera for fun have already won.>captcha: G4YSM
>>4470530>It's already too late; I've portrayed myself as the based Chad and you as the seething incel!>Nothing you do now can harm me!
>>4470531Nikon’s fault is releasing the a7iii 4 times (wow, still 24mp? Fuji and even phones are catching up. 24mp bayer = 16mp real) and making huge cameras. Even the ZF is huge and it fucks the ergos and aesthetics compared to an fm3. Clipboard vs brick. The ZF with a grip plate is as wide and tall as a Z8. Olympus and Fuji retro bodies have a small integrated grip that’s more than sufficient. Nikon really needs to poach a designer from sony, sigma, panasonic, or fuji. They have specs and near-perfect mid level lenses, but not practicality or soul.
>>4470531It’s /p/‘s zeitgeist trying to mindbreak clive (the guy who makes all the gear threads and had a huge meltdown about pancake lenses/spammed that gross trotti white balance fuckup)
I did, some shit called 'birth' turned out to be a scam. They gave me the wrong parents or didn't have them.I have my own camera, but for sanity's sake I have to operate on their frequency as our side confuses them.Shit disease meme nipples play
>>4470540this. its a pattern across 4chan. when a board identifies a particular schizo, they gaslight the fuck out of them until they get demoralized and leave, ie: yes i am with the cia sent from eglin afb problems schizo?and they usually leave to /pol/ like ambush did after moop baited him to death
>>4470538If Sony can fit an FF sensor in something as small as the a7c, idk why the Zf is the size it is. Should be the size of the zfc. If they could combine that with some actually compact lenses, I’d never need another camera, desu. There’s no reason for an f4 standard zoom or a fast 35-50mm prime to be as big as the z mount versions are. Nobody who needs that level of optical ultra-perfection shoots anything but medium format anyway
>>4470530lmao you’re still gay
>>4470530Buy an ad schizo
>>4470530wth why are the lenses so big?
>>4470538>>4470573The ZR is the best looking of all modern cameras if we exclude Leica. Though it's more of a video camera unfortunately without a mech shutter. I really don't understand Fuji, they always are on the right track with their design but then they decide to add something that makes the proportion look completely off. But at least their lenses look best. But that consistency in great looking bodies is something only Leica achived so far. Germans truly are masters of industrial design.
>>4470594And pic related is pure perfection. Only reason why Leica is still alive and why they still get people to pay 10k for their products is because how great they look and feel. If they would be abominations like Japanese cameras then they would be long dead, given that their inside tech is rather bad. Hasselblad is on the right track but their cameras always look like from a 13 years old who did some blender tutorials and created his own camera concept design.
>>4470594Soul.
>>4470593The mount is poorly engineered hence why the lenses are always so huge
>>4470598>100 years>sensor will corrode after 5 years>no replacement parts after 10 yearswhat did they mean by this?
>>4470594I don’t follow videography or whatever trends are happening there, why did they make a video focused body shaped like a photo one? Seems like not an ideal shape for that kind of application no?
>>4470573It's sized for Americans. Bigger - better, and there's less chance it breaks when an American sits on it.
>>4470573You're someone that will never be happy with the camera market, always find a reason to complain. If Zf is everything you want, but just a tad too big, you're just being silly.>to be as big as the z mount versions If you don't care about quality, there are plenty of smaller worse options, you could even go down in sensor size too.>Nobody who needs that level of optical ultra-perfection shoots anything but medium format anywayAgain, apply this same logic yourself and just get an X-T5 or something.>>4470593They aren't>>4470832It's the same shape as other video oriented models like the FX3. You can only get more video shape oriented going full box-style or when you go to a much larger body like FX6. Simple bodies are better for rigging up anyways.
>>4470889Or dont buy a camera that disappoints normal photographers and only appeals to gearfags like a nikon spec sheet machine
>>4470889But I thought that was a strike against the fx3 as well, but like I said I don’t do faggot trash ass video so
>>4470889the zf is more than a bit too big its a fucking tranny clown camera>YWNBAFCIt is literally the hulking troon vs svelt waif meme in camera form. The scratch prone plastic baseplate really sells how fake it is down to the core. It’s not a camera. It’s a spec sheet and a marketing idea.
>>4470908The Zfc was even worse. It has the honour of being the only camera I've insta returned. Cheap plasticky feel, gimped diopter adjustment, unintuitive ISO implementation, while strapping an apsc sensor on a body that's bigger than a Sony full frame. The ultimate boomer bait.
>>4470908it's only too big if you have feminine hands tbdesu
>>4470913This guys hands are larger than the camera itselfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAuOsNmBfEQAnd he still doesn't like nikons "ergonomics"Nikon is the worst brand, ergonomically. Yes, even compared to fuji and sony, because at least those ergo issues are solved by just never using the pixel peeper wank/professional faggotry lenses (if you were a professional you'd use canon, period, for other reasons anyways). This has been a constant throughout all of their cameras. Even sony has better controls (like dual rear dials and MUCH better menu/playback/etc button placement) despite their grips being designed as if no one who matters will ever touch a zoom lens ending in f2.8 or a prime lens ending in f1.4. They hired a good designer ONCE and then figured they never had to again.In an ideal world-Sony would stop pretending to be a professional brand and make full frame hobbyist cameras, like fuji+-Fuji would stop pretending to be nikon and discontinue all oversized pixel peeper/zoom wank glass and the x-h/x-s cameras-Nikon would copy either canon or sony's control layout and get rid of dumb shit like the zoom in/out buttons, add clicks to all control rings free of charge, and add a second rear dial for EC or ISO. And also, solve their rubber swelling/grip peeling issues that have persisted into the z7ii and will likely continue.Until then-Pros use canon-Hobbyists with too much money use fuji/sony/leica-Pixel peeper camera nerds use nikon
>>4470906A lot of the FX3 and ZR design is with video in mind>>4470908It's normal size, you just like "small" cameras, which is fine>>4470922>the things it does well, it does really well, and the camera is worth it despite the downsidesSounds awful>if you were a professional you'd use canon, period, for other reasons anywaysSo why did you show us a random anecdote of a non-professional?>Until thenNophotos shitpost on p
>>4470953>its normal sizePull nikon’s 3 incher out of your mouth, please. A leica m4 is normal size. A zf is a hideous tranny camera.
>>4470953>a random anecdote of a non professional>check>its a well thought our critique>he’s a professionalIs this the pot addict again? That’s not a gearfag but spends hours defending multimillion dollar companies from critique by people with used DSLRs, and owns $20k+ of meme kit just to struggle to finish a wedding with less than 14k shots?
>>4470367Lmao I have a house, two Leicas, a Tag, guns, and travel around twice a month. Never got around to a motorbike though
>>4471003THAT IS AMAZINGI AM VERY IMPRESSED BY THIS COMMENT
>>4471003>two leicasStep it up bruv
>>4470962M4's are small>>4470963OP said if they don't shoot Canon, not a professional, take it up with them, doesn't look like he does much client workhttps://glass.photo/robertmay>a well thought our critiqueWell>i dont use iso dial at all, wish it was user modes like normal camera>i dont know how to hold the camera and use the front dial>grip sucks, but i wont get a half case or grip to make things better (and more functional)>the baseplate is plastic, but i also wont fix that concern with a grip>z has no matching lenses>a quarter of the time, i will spend complaining that i shouldn't have overspent on an adapterRest of the video is just talking about the stuff he does like, which he also explicitly says he omitted lots of the things he liked about it.> struggle to finish a wedding with less than 14k shotsAlways got to be dishonest right?
>>4471022>zf problems solved: make ur 2x scale camera even bigger with point defeating accessoriesSnoy tier. Nikon fucking sucks.
>>4471015Based. Fuck the poors. I forgot to mention my Hasselblad
>>4471022>14k shotsLmfao.I was a guest with a camera (FF body with a manual focus 50/1.2) at the last wedding I attended. Picked about 50 solid images. I was shocked when I saw the absolute disgrace of the "professional" results (a team of 3, mind you, two 6DmkIIs with 24-70 kit zoom and a video dude with a Sony). Thousands of pictures, yes, but complete trash. Weird grey colors, close-up portraits shot at 24mm (and not in a quirky artsy way), useless boring snapshits. I wonder how these "pros" stay in business.
>>4471328Customers are much less discerning that you would think and they accept as “good” a lot what we spergs on here would call utter trash. I’m surprised they let you bring your camera as a guest, the last couple weddings have been no cameras allowed because “we have a photographer you just enjoy our moment with us” kinda thing.
>>4471328Neat to hear you have expertise with bringing a camera to a wedding as a guest one time, how great for you!
>>4470889I’m not saying that I’ll never be happy, I’m saying that I can’t tell if, in practice, the extra 450+ grams a Zf kit would add relative to a Fuji kit would bother me. The Zf weighs almost as much as my d90, which I regularly left behind on outings because it was an annoying heavy blob. May favorite film camera weighs less than an x-t4, but the lenses are heavier, so it’s a bit of a wash. For reference, I have big hands, even compared to something like a d90, big film camera, etc, it’s more about the clunkiness and weight of a 26 oz body combined with the chunkiness of Nikons new primes. The Zf pics I see largely look as good or better than the Fuji pics, but it’s hard to compare apples to apples because the Nikon guys seem to be better shooters in general and I’m not lol. What are the cheaper, smaller, crappier options for Z lenses? Just like TT-artisan and stuff like that? I prefer the “vintage character” type shots that people get out of the Nikon 40/f2 anyway, so that’s no big sacrifice. On the other hand, going Fuji saves 30% off of the body weight, some percent off the lens weight, and the only tradeoff is nearly imperceptibly worse pics at social media sizes and a harder time generating ultra-narrow depth for portraits.
>>4471328As much as I enjoy taking my camera with it's snapshit setup (kit lens) out to social events (nobody wants you to be hauling around your bazooka 70-200), you might actually be socially inept.In what world did you go to a wedding and think, gee, this is the perfect time to fire off enough photos to pick 50 out of them. What the fuck. Even if I took my proper camera it would be to set up a handful of portrait shots of me and my wife as something to go in the photo album.Turning to the output of the pros, that's what they're paid for. They're paid to have a range of photographs that all pass as technically acceptable. The clients get to pick the ones they like the most out of 1000 and because the cameratographers are doing all sorts of weird shit, there's a varied spread.Especially for a wedding, nobody gives a fuck about the artistic merit of a shot most the time. They just want photos for memories.
>>447138624mp full frame cameras are just unimpressive unless used by a skilled photographer. They're not a magic "woah" button. They handle color and shadow detail better. You're either good enough to benefit from that, or you're not.I agree that the zf feels too big and clunky. The z6ii and z5ii are easier to carry despite technically being the "big ugly blobs".But if you want your photos to be "woah, nice camera" at almost any size, you need at least an a7iv/a7cii, z7, or r5 for the "woah, nice camera" effect.
>>4471388If everyone had a compact aps-c mirrorless at the least, professional event photography as an industry would collapse overnight and the entire market would rewind to the 80s when "wedding photographer" meant you had a guy with a medium format camera show up to do artificially lit, 30" wallhanger-grade portraits, instead of 5000 candids, and he planned all the shots with the couple before the wedding started.It can not be overstated how useless modern wedding and event photographers are, as professionals and as people. Most of them are only doing photography because it's the most money they can make without a college degree or a clean drug test. A fucking 16 year old student with an a7iii and tamron 28-75 f2.8 can produce the same if not better output.
>>4471392Spoken like a true nophoto
>>4471392100% true. Wedding photographers are underskilled, overgeared, and overpaid. It’s a boomer scam.
So, perfect /p posters.
>>4471386The Zf is fat and heavy for no reason really. I hope the mark 2 gonna be lighter. There are many light and tiny full frame cameras (Sigma, Lumix S9, ..).Aps-c lenses aren't always lighter. The full frame Z40mmf2 can be compared with the xf23mmf1.4 (though the Z in apsc would be more a 26mmf1.3). Z weights 170 grams and the xf23 more than double with 370g. Yet still being slower. And you are right, most won't see a difference. Really depends on wether you are a pixel peeper or not. There is a difference between apsc and ff images that goes beyond "ultra-narrow depth". The details, sharpness, colors, "3D pop", dynamic range, etc. make the whole image and the bigger the sensor the better the image quality. >>4471390Are you sure that the megapixel matter all that much? I mean looking at photos on screen size. I think the "woah, nice camera" effect is mainly produced by the lens. No matter which full frame camera you use. If zooming in, there is no question about it of course. For example if you compare a photo shot on a 28mm summilux on the 24mp Leica Q with lets say the Sony A7RV and the FE28mmF2.. the summilux gonna look much better for sure.
>>4471427Megapixels matter for stuff with very fine detail like asian women. Bayer slop erases fine detail and replaces it with either nothing or a blob.
>>4471427>The details, sharpness, colors, "3D pop", dynamic range, etc. make the whole image and the bigger the sensor the better the image quality.you're right. but sometimes I'm willing to make the compromise and not lug around heavy FF gear. because in the end the flawed photo you have is way better than the perfect photo you didn't take because you wouldn't take your camera with you
>>4471489ok bro, but that doesn't make sense, because full frame has been aps-c/mft sized for ages unless you're exclusively into birds and macro or literally fucking autistic about something on the spec sheet.this is the real reason you see so much cherry picked, dishonestly spun, and out of date but irrationally generalized sony hate on /p/sony outsells the next five brands combined entirely because of the -c models. nikon, fujifilm, panasonic, sigma, and om system all sell less cameras overall than sony's a7c line alone.a fucking portable tape player company basically destroyed every rational reason to buy anything else. those next five brands are no longer popular IRL. they're heavily astroturfed and get their social media algorithm-bubbles on the internet but IRL sales are poor and extremely dependent on the chinese markets secret trick (having more retarded customers than everyone else).
>>4471492Appeal to popularity seems like a good argument until you realize that most people are mentally deficient and have poor taste. Who gives a shit what the best-selling brand is? Who gives a shit except if there are reasons, based on use case, to go for one option over another? Blanket statements based on popularity metrics make no sense because you have to consider a dozen other things specific to the person buying the camera.
>>4471492>f/2.5>not even a pancake >$800actually embarassing
>>4471500>im definitely better than everyone so popular things cant be good!most people who can afford cameras are already in a higher income bracket and more likely to be more intelligent and attractive than you. it's part of why sony got away with not really focusing on jpegs for the longest time. all the people who are smart enough to make enough money to afford a camera, are smart enough to edit raws efficiently instead of taking hours to produce kenrockwell.com.>>4471501>no i need a phone lens on my camera and i cant buy used i have to pay new prices for things and spend more money on the same stuffcool enjoy gimping yourself and being mad at the nice cameras you cant afford
>>4471489>"Foolframe is better">Correct, but sometimes it's inconvenientThe only rational take. Full frame is for maxing out your IQ which isn't always the ideal route to take.>>4471492>full frame has been aps-c/mft sized for ages unless you're exclusively into birds and macroNot everyone wants to or can just buy a MILC FF. What, everyone using a D800 lovingly is supposed to fuck it off instead of using their B-cam or a phone when it suits them? Lol sneed.The correct approach is to have a big kit for planned things or when max quality counts, and either a small P&S or large sensor phone at other times. EDC faggots like you who absolutely NEED to take their snoy everywhere are insufferable.>>4471501Lmao Canon has had the 40mm f/2.8 pancake for how long now? 1/3rd the size and meant for DSLRs even.Snoy is pathetic lmao. >Look at muh compact body!
>>4471507nice mental gymnastics. however, no one is stupid enough to follow through with your absurd convoluted gear consooming strategy that exists solely to justify micro four thirds garbage. just buy an a7c and shoot.
>>4471507>i sneed a blurry pancake lens even if my blobslr is 3x larger and worse at everythingsure or more likely you cant afford a better camera and invent retarded arbitrary ways to cope
Debating between a Fuji meme camera or a ricoh gr IV. They are both shit build quality but I want something I can keep in a jacket problem with a good 28mm fov. Pretty annoyed there is no good option for a compact aspc. They're all ridiculously priced for how shit their build quality is.
>>4471516>Just buy a lens thats not only bigger but has worse IQ and is more expensive because thats better! low IQ consoomer
>>4471510What the fuck. M43 is a blight on this world. How did you draw that conclusion?Just because I think Snoy is shit doesn't mean I think M43 is good.They're both about the same level of shit for different reasons>>4471516Lol hit a nerve with the anit-snoy sentiment did I?
>>4471492yeah but you got like the smallest lightest body/lens combo for FF while taking big sized apsc and m43 gear.now I would use sony if it had any soul. but whenever I use on of their cams I feel like programming my VHS recorder back in 1993. nah thanks.when I go out to lunch and want to keep some memories I take some compact POS like a loomix gm5, gx80, etc. something in that size. not gonna lug around an a7c neither an xt5 or om5 with a huge and expensive meme prime like the 20mm 1.4 lolstop being so triggered. use the right tool for the right occasion. or is your identity pegged to some sony full frame camera because your parents didn't love you enough?
>>4471507>The only rational take. Full frame is for maxing out your IQ which isn't always the ideal route to take.yeah I learned this again most recently on vacation. had my nice full frame mirrorless with a nice mirrorless prime with me. and more often than not I left it in the hotel room because "fuck, it's hot outside and I don't need that weight hanging around my neck for a day". I took photos with my shartphone with its retarded AI processing. and while the photos look like ken rockwell got a stroke I still like them because they're memories of a vacation with my family.that's when I realized (not for the first time lol but gearfaggery gets you repeatedly) that I would have been absolutely fine with a 16mpx or whatever apsc/m43 compact camera.now when it comes to photo trips where taking photos is the main reason and not just an add-on I will take my full frame equipment. but never again for casual vacation/going out/etc
>>4471517If you wanna stick with 28mm then Ricoh of course. Much smaller and better lens.
>>4471555>while the photos look like ken rockwell got a stroke I still like them because they're memories of a vacation with my family.I think lots of anons here forget this is the primary use case for lots of people. While I went down the autistic full frame route, I originally got into photography because I didnt have any tangible memories and my brain is getting forgetful.
>>4471507Full frame maxes out your versatility, not your IQ. Stabilized APS-C beats unstabilized FF in low light, for example. Cooled 4/3in beats a general purpose FF for astro. Sheet film beats everything else for sun lit landscape. I could go on but my point has been made.
>>4471585>Stabilized APS-C beats unstabilized FF in low light, for example.what if the subject isn't a gas station/lawn chair and is moving?
>>4471586Pan shots benefit from stabilization too.
I'm buying the x100vi next month. I'm waiting for all the black friday stuff to get all the accessories I want for it cheaper. It'll be my first new camera in over a decade. Done a shitload of research to find out which camera would best suit my needs and the x100vi ticks all the boxes. Can't fucking wait.
>>4471615A fool and his money are soon parted.Even a fucking Sony would be better.
>>4471620If anything, this thread has shown me people here are more insane than the guys in the guitar general on /mu/. Disregard every opinion here and have fun shooting the new camera when I get it.
>>4471505>the money argumentMentally deficient with poor taste
>>4471505>cool enjoy gimping yourself and being mad at the nice cameras you cant affordIts an overpriced bottom of the barrel consumer grade snoy, not a Leica anon.
>>4471615Get the 100v, I’ve seen reviews suggesting that they didn’t change the lens between the v and vi, and it doesn’t like the new 40mp sensor. Also you save a decent amount of money for almost the same thing in a lot of other areas. >>4471427Yeah, I see your point. Most of the Fuji lenses are a good amount lighter, but there’s a surprising number where the FF is pretty comparable. I know what you mean about the pop and the dimensionality and everything. I’ve been looking at Zf albums vs Xt or X-pro and the Zf often looks nicer, even to me. I figure part of it is that the average Fuji redditor isn’t great at post, but Cam Mackey’s side-by-side review definitely the Zf looking that little extra bit better, even on youtube quality. And he didn’t fuck up the xt5 results to make a point, they also looked amazing. Granted, his xt5 and zf results both look immensely better than anything people are posting on reddit lol. I wish Nikon had a more consistently compact lens lineup, although several of the third party fast 85mm lenses are actually lighter than the Fuji 56mm equivalent. At the end of the day, the option of the hybrid OVF on the x pro is really cool and there’s just something about the Fuji lineup makes me love the idea of going out and shooting with it. And chicks love the retro look. But, the Nikon is better for the money, beats them on autofocus, and has all the usual FF benefits, 3d pop, micro contrast, dimensionality, etc. it’s not a huge difference at social media sizes or small prints, but it’s there. Nikon is also better at adapting, but I don’t want to spend a ton of money on a giant vintage lens collection anyway.
>>4471667The Zf is genuinely a great camera. Especially for it's price point. The only real downside in my opinion is that it just has bizarre ergonomics. It's not even that it's too heavy or big. It just feels weird to hold and not quite heavy or light enough. I wish had a similar body to the FM3 if it was doing the retro larp. The 40mm F2 you can get with is is actually incredible though. Such a good mix of IQ, price, and size.
>>4471492This. Just buy a sony. If a bunch of turbo autists on 4chan are screeching that its shit, it’s probably good and mogs their hipster shit to death anywhere outside their spreadsheet based imagination.
>>4471696Its the other way around. Its only the same turbo autist shilling snoy, so yeah, its trash. Nobody is buying an old crippled a7c with snoy colors lmao.>>4471673The Nikon 40/2 is the GOAT. Small, fast and not overpriced.
>>4471752More people are buying sony cameras than nikon cameras except in the portion of the japanese market tracked by BCN. Are you japanese?Based on my experience with sony, they just make good cameras. If 4chan hates them it's because some incel here vaguely associates them with leftism or trannies. No other reason, unless it's some juvenile, chris-chan tier idiocy beyond any normal person's ability to guess. The a7iii was a better camera than the z6ii before the z6ii even came out, and the autofocus is still better than the z5ii's... jussaiyan.if you have a problem with the colors, I have some questions>Why are you spending four figures on a camera body if you are so stupid you shoot jpeg's default settings or worse, use darktable>Why are you spending four figures on a camera body and $300 a year on lightroom if you arent aware adobe has no good defaults and requires new presets for every cameraOtherwise sony colors are great. The vast majority of professionals use them, including every single associated press journalist. Who even has a problem with them, besides incompetent newbs on youtube who try to vlog with auto white balance? That would even fuck up a canon>oops too blue, too magenta, too green, too orange, AWB is never right
>>4471758Imagine how much it hurts a sony hater when the a7cii is right there and they force themselves to use some arcane minmaxed 3 body setup instead
Funny you mention sony. I pretend to shoot canon for appearances — but my main camera is actually an a7c with the 28-60 mm kit lens
>>4471777Checked - gotta be the real Ken
>>4471758>Otherwise sony colors are great.
>>4471848But if you watch the whole video her colors all over the placehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4N2VKRJ27DEAnd she’s using a $2000 kit to shoot iphone tier video.Color science is a skill issue. Most professionals use sony for a reason. If you have problems, you lack skill. Go back to your iphone. If a camera costs more than $500 it is for professionals ONLY.
>>4471855hurrr durrrr imma payin customer and if the default settings are shit the camera is shit because i paid all this money so i deserve every want and need catered to! i am the customer and i am always right! the right way to use things is the way i use them goshdarnit ya slants gotta hire some of them apple guys because i aint readin this faggot manual or spendin 5 hours figgerin out a raw file! wheres yer manager!?
>>4471775lol the readout from the sensor is so bad on that scamera that people walking will cause a rolling shutter. It's a good camera if your a youtuber who doesn't care about their art but if you have any sort of intention behind your photos it will disappoint you. If you want it get it but you'll probably end up selling it in a couple months anyways when you start to notice the sony flaws.
>>4471934>e-shutter readout>rolling shutter>photographyanon, it's not a lumix s9. it has an electronic first curtain shutter. do you gearfaggots have the slightest fucking idea what you're talking about? did you seriously spend $2000 on a camera and leave it on electronic shutter for action photography? is that what happened?i'm starting to think sony has a ton of really fucking retarded users, and all the stupid snoy posting is just snoyboys not so transparently complaining about not being able to use their fucking camera because they're clueless faggots who blew $$$$ without thinking or trying to learn a single fucking thingseriously, the last faggot who wouldnt shut up about how "snoy is the worst" was literally a sony user himself and he was pissed because sony ignored his requests to make specific lenses.i can 100% believe this. last decade it was "nikon is the worst, it has a green tint, the autofocus doesnt work, i'm buying a canon" coming from idiots that bought a d850/d4 because it was the most expensive camera at costco and left it on auto mode or used totally retarded settingssony: ok cameras. fucking idiot users. biggest fucking morons.post all those rolling shutter plagued photos you took with your a7cii retard. people should be forced to use a canon rebel for their first 5 years i swear to god
>>4471944lol it's so slow it rolls in EFCS. That only really fixes banding from LEDs. I'm not going to bother combing through photos from a year ago to argue with aa sony user munching on crayons. If you want the sony and are okay with the compromises it offers then buy it. Otherwise just get a z5ii for cheaper and enjoy better raws and lenses. Why can't this board handle someone critiquing sony. They make okay camera's that are have a youtuber markup attached to it.
>>4471944You are correct which is why they’re making shit up to copeSony is the #1 brand in being too much camera for a first camera>>4471953Nice attempt at bullshitting with minimal knowledge. You snoys can never shut up about how the camera is why you suck. What you actually said is: Youtube told me this camera was good but i cant figure out how to use it :(
>>4470544Poop, I never "left for /pol/", I was always on /pol/ arguing with NPCs who figure things out years too late. I have been a Nazi since grade 8.I stopped posting here because 1) I started shooting film again and it will never be digitized and 2) the quality of /p/ plummeted to the point that I think I'm too good for this place. All the good shooters left ages ago.Now do yourself a favour and let go of the past, even if you have no present or future to enjoy. It isn't healthy.
>>4471956>Spend thousands on a cope mount PlayStation camera or your a bad photographer. Also like and subscribe to my channelThe Sony shills mind is an empty waste of decay and charts only interrupted by fake shutter sounds and lofi hiphop. It is not a place of honor
>>4471971No photos of the time you didnt realize what silent shutter did then?
>>4471855>>4471869>Every other camera brand takes good pics on the default settings>Snoy doesnt and requires tinkering and editing>Actually thats a good thing!>Its intentionally supposed to be bad!>s-skill issue!holy cope
>>4471978Lol cope camera
>>4460982would be nice if they made one of these with an 18mm lens
>>4460982Nice nails. chic
