Why are photography YouTubers so shit? They mostly churn out boring nontent while dressing like a copy of a copy of a copy of someone who thought he might closet cosplay Ansel Adams. Who are they aping?Almost all have the cadence and tone of a best buy sales associate either slowly conniving a golden HDMI cable sale or postponing their suicide on a Sunday evening only since their parents are still alive; with no in-between.I meet smarter and more interesting people IRL at camera club or local stores, so it's not as if this hobby is exclusively for people prescribed Klonopin and SSRIs.Half of them are just talking head slop direct to camera talking about what gear to buy (micro four nerds)The ones that do teardowns and repairs of gear are usually fine, but those aren't exactly photo videos at that point.The only guy that does the "video of taking photos" thing I can stand is Nick LoPresti since he doesn't talk like he's constipated, but lately the lack of constipation has become a problem since he's been diarrhea-shitting up my sub box with low-effort commentary videos sitting in front of a green screen. Idk who he's aping there, 2016 twitch? Don't like it, especially one where he and his wife are politisperging about shit like how "they can't use Google search for inane things because it'll track you" for what feels like several minutes.Snappiness may be my second favorite even though he looks and talks like a queer (he has kids so I guess he isn't technically). At least he does ridiculous things with cameras that are more interesting than "I walked and took a photo of something and had some ennui about it".Also, I hate gxAce with a passion, dead horse of a gimmick beaten into dust at this point. 80% of his videos serve no purpose to the modal viewer since they're just a rain-dance to the corporate marketing teams to get them to send him gear. (Also combining sloppy wet deep-throat glazing prose with an aloof tone is uniquely excruciating to listen to.)
Yeah there pretty much all soulless shills for whichever brand is paying them
One thing I always find funny is how much many (pretty much all I see) youtube and social media photo/video people colour grade their stuff.It's so over the top that it looks like an amateur playing around with presets for the first time. And this is from people who supposedly know what they're doing. There's a general lack of subtlety and "natural" looks.And don't fucking get me started on all those people holding clip-on / lapel mics instead of using it like it's built to be used. It's literally built to not be handheld you fucking morons.And the lofi hiphop beats and click sounds every time an image pops up... and the CONSTANT begging for money... and every single fucking video being juuuust above 10 minutes to get that youtube money.I get that it's a hustle earning a living in any artistic, but I pretty much never click on a video that's 10+ minutes because I know it's made to profit and not to enlighten or whatever you say. It's been many years now, but pretty much nobody ever just posts a 3 minute video of something cool they discovered or wanted to share. It's purely selling your personality as an influencer (fucking hate that word) and to sell whatever products and affiliate links you're shoving in the viewers face constantly.I'm just so fucking sick of it all.. It's terrible in the musical instrument world too, which is my main thing, but I somehow think it's worse in the camera world.
>>4463667It's the modern algorithm. It's specifically designed to shittify everything.Talking heads is the absolute worst offense, in my opinion. You try to look up info about some gearz and it's just 11 minutes of some faggot sitting at a desk talking nonsense, without showing off anything - Not even any fucking photos!
>>4463674WRT color grading I was thinking this when I 4x speed'd through grainydays' video today at like 2 minutes in. I wasn't sure if the footage was just ruined on site by his foid or if the blown-out look was a deliberate artistic choice(outsourced editor trying out LUTs and/or Dehancer?).My favorite visual faux pas are the standardized "majored in film but not necessarily at a film school" lighting setups for talking head shots and the worse but less soulless "followed a tutorial from someone trying to sell something" lighting. It's scary when you can start to notice how little of their life is actually reasoned through, they're just drifting helplessly from recipe to recipe. Grainydays is not guilty of this at least.
>>4463677That's why I try, whenever I can, to use natural lighting as much as possible. I also prefer a more natural look to videos, but still without it looking like Tele Mundo or Japanese tv.Same with photos. It's like people never got over those instagram filters from the mid 2010's. Washed out and hyper coloured at the same time. That look hurts my eyes.It's so homogeneous too. They're all supposed to be unique creative people, but it's all just the same shit and they talk in this soft "hey friends..." way. I fucking hate when somebody opens a video up with "hey friends"
I used to enjoy Heaton's videos since they're mostly shot on location and show some of the process, but most of the time nothing happens and he spends more and more time gearfagging and rambling about nonsense. Probably another follower of the 10 minute rule, his videos are boring af. Plus he looks more and more like a circlejerking business, less and less like a bloke who just enjoys going alone in nature and taking cool shots.
>>4463674Lightroom presets won't sell themselves you know.
>>4463667The key is to recognize that they aren't there to talk about photography: they're there to distract people there to talk about photography long enough to get paid.Thus ends the lesson.
>>4463667Bruh just follow real photographers who publish their works. Go to exhibitions, buy photobooks and shit. There are a lot of good photogs on ig. Just follow them. Engage with real stories. Checkout Alec Soth's channel, yeah I know he is a fag but his channel is good https://www.youtube.com/@AlecSothYouTube
I enjoy grainydays, and there's nothing you can do about it.
There's a lot of issues with photography youtube>Photography as a practise is not that interesting to watch and can be hard to film, especially if you're solo. Yes, some people do film street photography walkarounds, but that requires a second person to film, access to a well known / talented photographer and only really works for street photography. Compare this to something like painting, which is way easier to film, and way more interesting to watch (also harder to gearfag)>As a result, most photography channels are dedicated to gear videos, and the ones that aren't are tutorial videos that only appeal to beginners. So if you're not new to photography, there's not much out there for you. Sure you can always learn more, but at some point it gets hard to find stuff you haven't heard before. >Unlike other hobbies, but similar to other artistic pursuits, if you spend all of your time talking about equipment and your results suck (snappiness, Tom Carlton), people will just hate you. Tom Carlton for example is always bitching about all the hate he gets, probably because he has about 700 videos that are all identical to picrel.
The only youtuber that I regularly watch is shoot film like a boss, dude is funny and his editing (both videos and photos) don't give me aids.The rest I have encountered are insufferable beanie wearing faggots
>>4463667>rain-dance to the corporate marketing teams to get them to send him gear.If a youtuber does a "review" of a camera that came out recently, simply do not watch them, ever. ALL reviews on youtube are curated by the manufacturer. NO EXCEPTIONS.t. youtuber.i will not self identify. but i will say this:panasonic has told me to walk carefully with the s5iix and walk carelessly with the R6II and A7IV.nikon has told me to only show successful autofocus acquisitions and that I should not mind when it misses, "because it is probably you not the camera"sony sent me creative style settings and a lightroom preset to use to review their camera and asked that I do not use defaultscanon asked for the fucking video before i published it. they removed a part where i compared the menu to a sony, removed the part where i said it overheated when the sun hit it and there was something wrong with the firmware, and said "use this".This is not a larp. This has all happened. If you choose not to believe it, and think companies are honest organizations, your friends, and only have your best interests at heart, well, get fucked.
>>4463797Here's the recommended settings for sony cameras btw 5 ntrl*contrast +2sat -1sharp +1AWB keep white, +1b +1mdon't use std, sony basically admits it looks bad
>>4463798As for the preset it was literally just thesehttps://alphauniverse.com/resources/lightroom-presets/Yeah sony knows their default colors suck
>>4463667>gxAceLmao this guy. Cringe level is off the scale with the latest Hassy """review""": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRb0-bjk7lI
My boy Andy Mumford never lets me downBut that's because YouTube isn't his main business and it's just a side channel to funnel people to his photography workshops
I liked or rather I still like Ted Forbes videos about actual photographers but he seems to also only do gear stuff these past years, shame
>>4463797People buy gear to be happy about it for a bit and move on, not to be mad every single day. Sometimes gearfags and shills forget about it.> Company made me adverrltise their product.Oh no, poor you.
>>4463802I hope that his cerebral palsy or whatever the fuck takes him soon, fuck that little shit
>>4463807Is this motivated by the cringe ass robot voiceovers or something else? From 10 minutes spent looking at bits and pieces he seems talented to my untrained eye.
>>4463763I feel a sort of righteous smugness (a not-quite schadenfreude) when I change Basedpenis, Tom Calton, et al clickbait titles to boring product names with DeArrow.
>>4463798This doesn’t look too bad actually
>>4463808I get you need to differentiate yourself to stand out, but I just find the whole scifi robot voice hologram thing way over the top in a bad way
>>4463748Alec Soth, Bryan Birks, and Robbie Maynard are the only photographers I watch on youtube because they aren't really in it for the money and you can tell they enjoy the art of photography
>>4463802I hate looking at this fags stiff fingers its unsettling
>>4463842I don't like their style of photography. It is extremely boring, safe and academic. Bryan Birks tries way too hard.
>>4463667>Why are photography YouTubers so shit?Because photography IS the pastime, it's a simple hobby that doesn't actually bear that much analysis. You run out of things to say after not long at all.Everything new is just an update of something old, the only way to get better is to stick a camera in front of something more interesting and not fuck up the settings this time.All of the equipment has existed forever, and no surprises, by spending more money you get "more optimal" results, but at the same time it's all mature technology and anyone better than a beginner can accomplish whatever they want with even the most basic gear.The tutorial's over buddy, go play the game.
>>4463674The mic part is so true like why are you even buying them
>>4464145I'd say photography is one of the few "artistic" professions that's safe from ai. At least some aspects of the photography industry.I mean ai can't replace wedding and event photos and stuff like that.You can use ai denoise and other shit like that, but the actual photographer profession is "safe" for now, so I'd say it's relevant in that sense.>>4464210It honestly makes me irrationally irritated when I see it, and it seems like every-fucking-body making videos of any sort are holding them like that now. I hate it so fucking much.
>>4463667This bitch keeps shooting wide openShe ACCEIDENTALLY stopped down 2 steps in one lens review and they were her best fucking portraits. And then she continues to crap out wide open slop
> Youtuber makes review> Nice he uploaded the RAWs to dropbox> soft wide open slop> FUCKING MISSED FOCUS in 100% of the picsi'm going insane I hate youtubers with expensive toys way beyond their skill level so much
There's another youtube guy I saw some videos of using some Fuji stuff, but he bought a Leica late last year or in january of this year.Now all he's done is milk it absolutely dry with stuff like "2 weeks with my leica", "travelling with my leica", "1 month with my leica", "my leica inspired me to travel", "6 months with my leica".Before that it was the exact same shit, but just with his Fuji stuff.And he pronounces some word weird. Like the word "strap", he'll say it like "ssshhhhhhtrap", really locking his teeth together and widening his mouth when saying "ssshhhhh"It's not "ssshhhh" it's just "strap"..There was also another guy I was looking at some videos doing some menu setting shit, and he kept calling settings "set-ens". This guy was American too. I've never heard anybody saying it like that before. It's like he was trying to mimic English accent, but you'd say "se'ings" trying that. So annoying.
>>4464221All Leica """influencers""" do this. See how Overgaard and friends shill Leica gear and Leica courses and Leica books only to upload street and travel snapshits as 640px wide jpgs.
>>4464218>when a portrait isn't maximum bokeh f/1.2 creamy dreamy buttery cummy yummies
People actually watch Youtube photography videos? Nigga just get out and take some fucking pictures, we got enough gearfaggotry here.
>>4463667Attic darkroom, Courtney Victoria, Steven Tanno, Steve O'Nions are the ones I can stand.Generally with youtube smaller channels are better.
>>4464221The latest trend with TikTok cooking girls is to purposely do wrong things because rage bait gets more views.
>>4464256I click away instantly when I see shit I don't like. I barely have time to do or watch things I like, I'm not wasting time watching shit like that
>>4463667Are there any photography YouTubers that are actually paid and professional photographers for their day job? >>4464218I think it's funny how she's considered a complete idiot at everything, but she's the exclusive source for the "Sony color science le bad" retard that posts her picture every day.
I like this trip videos and I’m not ashamed to say it.
>>4464378There are a bunch. They use youtube as an additional source of income as most people in artistic professions have to do. It's always a hustle in that world.
>>4463798Noob here.Does this matter at all if I am shooting raw only?Also what does 5 ntrl* stand for? The nt profile?
>>4464378Nick Carver for one
>>4463797>this all happened believe me btw no proof :^)
Anyone makes non-gear videos, though?
For me it's Jay P Morgan
>>4464803I love how kids who told you back in elementary school that their uncle worked at Nintendo are now openly bragging about actually working at Nintendo or in this case being a famous photography YouTuber who gets cameras for free from every single company & like you said no proof, because he doesn't want too """""doxx"""" himself.How convenient. Happens all the time on 4chan.>I made this study with prison inmates at St. Quentin >You know that you can look up studies, right? They aren't confidential>No such study exists>I worked in China & here's a bunch of stories that totally happened, I was managing 5 different steel mills, pics or it didn't happen, what? That's old 4chan now I just larp as whatever I want & screenshot my epic stories (which totally happened, just look at those words on a 4chan post, it has to be true, because I agree with it) for later & pretend that they're all real>I'm a psychiatrist (yeah, sure) & everything that you thought about black prisoners is true. Proof? Can't do it. There have beens dozens of 4chan meetups all over the world. US, Europe, Asia. You would think that those attention whores who are not famous but pretend that they're crypto millionaires, digital nomads, various types of engineers etc. all making at least 6 figures or even more per year would show up at such an event. You're crazy rich according to yourself & have all the free time in the world, so get your private jet & fly to bumfuck nowhere to flex on those other people from 4chan. But no, for some unknown reason this never happened once. Just believe everything that you read on 4chan. You can only flex online>inb4 you're jealousPics or it didn't happen. Pull out $100k cash right now & take a picture of that money, a piece of paper next to it, handwritten obviously, with my post number, today's time date & you can call me poorfag after that.>W-why would I have so much money laying around?Rich people just have it, idiot, again nice larp.
>>4466377All this seethe tells me that maybe he was telling the truthIt's pretty consistent with what others have said ie gerard
>>4466377he is 100% larpingno company makes bad cameras. there are only bad photographers. there is no camera that has problems or is too expensive for what it is. people just have to learn and be thankful for what they have.every camera is good none of them have problems and sony makes the best ok shut up you lying shills you benchod basterds
>>4466378>U-u are just mad Kill yourself. Who asked?
>>4466379Absolute brainlet. Nowhere did I defend a company there, schizo, take your meds.
>>4466381Idk someone just said that companies curated their youtube channel and you went on a big seething rant containing a bunch of /pol/ thread derailing attempts so i just have a feeling that he's rightthat panasonic does fake their IBIS demos (i returned an s5ii on amazon and the IBIS wasn't as good as the videos showed... and other cameras i used, even the fucking a7c, were never as bad... hmm), canon doesnt want people pointing out their software bugs, nikon was insecure about their shitty autofocus, and sony is aware their colors suck shit
>>4466383>Seething stopped reading after that Keep crying about your larp. You can shit on cameras without pretending to get them for free. They're not that's expensive , you poorfag.You should take your meds. I still haven't defended any of those companies. You're hallucinating things that I've never said and projecting your seethe onto me
I have a YouTube channel and Leica never told me to say anything positive. No restrictions.t. youtuberI obviously won't identify myself and I've written this real story on 4chan now. So it's just true and I will shit my pants out of anger if you doubt the verisimilitude of my story .
>>4466384>your larpI didn't post that but you're very angry right now
>>4464218>and they were her best fucking portraitslink? I still have to see a photo from this bitch that has some actual artistic merit bar the "pretty girl with a fuck ton of bokeh and afternoon back light" slop she constantly shits out
>>4466386No restrictions, but you won't get more stuff sent to you if you say something actually negative
You need to watch a YouTuber who has a real day job and only does videos on photography as a side-gig/for fun.Nick Carver has, so far, been the only person who isn't an insufferable cunt trying to shill a product for a corporation in one way or another. Plus he's actually good and doesn't take the same photographs that everyone else on the internet already has and try to pawn it off as "art".
>>4466639if they are proper professional photographers they won't have the time to do the youtube dance, period. you all need to accept the fact that the whole platform is a cesspool of shills and corporate whores trying to get views for money, and once your expectations on that are clear you will have a much better time on it. also, a channel blocker extension is wonderful these days
>>4466639I fear that his dipping into the same trap as others, you can see he's been on-off changing thumbnails and titles (bit like grainydays and the rest) to get more viewers. Only a matter of time before you start seeing the "sponsored by X" and the whole video is a gear circlejerk
>>4466640Maybe so, but he only posts around once a month, sometimes going 2-3 months without posting anything because he knows he has nothing to say/show in that time unlike others who have to post something no matter how godawful it is in order to make money. >>4466644I've accepted that that day will inevitably arrive. And when it does, I just hope there's enough of a backlog of his old videos to enjoy before he shits the bed. I particularly loved the video he made behind this photo.
>>4466639I've never seen or heard about him before, so I looked him up on youtube and all the first couple of videos that popped up all looked like the regular youtube shit I ignore. And he of course has that post ironic sleaze core look going too.
>>4466645actually, I think I like him, I don't know what his angle is but at least he's not trying to sell me anything, not on his old stuff anyway... thanks for sharinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3kyOnd3kmA
>>4466613The hasselblad 90v reviewShe accidentally stopped down 2 steps and they were her best photos ever bc they were actually sharp. It’s hilarious. Then she continues to shoot wide open
>>4466696>hasselblad 90vkek, she is such a hacknice model tho
I can recommend the old Daniel Norton videos with Marisa, she was so damn beautiful when she was young.
>>4463667stop watching some 4chan recommended youtuber and watch shit you actually enjoy
Gavin hoey is always entertaining. Also, there is another adorama guy that is very cool, a fat guy that calls the models "darling", "love" and stuff like that, very photographer. It comes highly recommended.
I'm a youtuber with 6 morbillion subscribers and Canon said they come round and set fire to my house if I disparaged their autofocus
>>4464378>Are there any photography YouTubers that are actually paid and professional photographers for their day job?Considering how low the bar is to call yourself a photographer I'd say yes.
>>4466899Camera Conspiracies, is that you?!
>>4464378>Are there any photography YouTubers that are actually paid and professional photographers for their day job? There are a handful that I know of but they're all trying to shill training courses or will as soon as they think their following is big enough.
/p/ tube needs more girls
>>4467528Girls don't have a pee tube silly.
>>4463805I liked some of Forbes' videos many years ago but he turned entirely into Sony seller.
>>4467528https://www.youtube.com/@cameranewb3878
>>4463667Is Thomas Heaton gay or not? he sometimes talk about his wife but you never ever see her also his home doesn't look like a women would live there
>>4463667>micro four nerdsthat one is sooooo on ozempic. she lost like half a ton in 2 years. but she's still ugly as fuck lol
>>4463748>bruh just follow nepo babies who know the right Js to get into exhibitionsyeah keep it real bro
>>4467880You other option is to study the work of photographers from 19th century, the golden age of photography. I don't care about white or jewish photographers that much honestly. I like the work of Japanese photographers way more.
>>4464453yeah his photos are retarded but the trip videos are comfy. I want to believe he's doing the photographic equivalent of drone metal: like he knows how to take good photos but he shoots toilets and abandoned gas stations on expensive film just to fuck with people
>>4467887no my other option is to go out and take photos.>this blows the consoomer cattle's mindkek
>>4467893>you're a musician and you listen to music? >wow you're niggercattle
>>4467897consoomer cattle cope
>>4467899>you're an engineer and you read papers and books written by other engineers? >wow you're a coping niggercattle
>>4467900>taking snapshits is the same as building bridgestake your meds
>>4467908It is if you're not retarded or lack art education to know the complexity of aesthetics. I swear you retards hate photography. Kill yourself.
>>4467926>art education>educationahahah so anon how much did you spend on your women studies degree?
>>4467938You are vibe coder of photography. Kill yourself retard.
Another one of those channels that always pops up. Makes it more ironic that she is a marketing executive and the majority of her videos is >gas is fine
>>4469116she's so fucking annoying i hope she dies
>>4469116The people who buy the most gear are always the ones telling you to stop buying gearDoes it make sense?When you realize they're not talking to you. They're legitimizing their internal monologue by presenting their own desires as an authority. So they say after getting bored of having more than one lens and playing with presets, "gear is bad, just buy this simple fixed lens fuji and shoot jpeg, be a real photographer, create more gear less"Then they buy that fujiAnd then 2 months later they're telling you not to spend so much and try this micro four thirds/canon dslr/whatthefuckever
>>4463667I jive with this same opinion.It seems really overdone with the same pretentious..*camera click sfx*...(shows image)...(cinematic shot of them doing something)...slow paced...*camera click sfx*...(shows image)...(cinematic shot of them doing something)....monotonous...*camera click sfx*...(shows image)...(cinematic shot of them doing something)....content.The videos regarding photography that have grabbed the most attention from me was the Walkie-Talkie. It's different, unique, the way the person even carries themselves you can dissect their style from that alone. I eat that shit up over muh cinematic color-graded lofi showcase youtube video over a sony cybershot from the early 2000 because digicams are SOOOO in right now (marking up digicam price mention from this one video from $2 to $200 on ebay)It's a big reason I've considered making content out of spite simply because I feel like I could yap and showcase both my photos and personality and it would go higher than the current slop. It'd probably do me wonders in terms of getting exposure for my hobby which I am very autistic about.
>>4467132I actually sorta like that nigger, he kinda reminds me of a canadian friend I have.I miss /ourguy/ chudhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOrQI5M7Ot0
>>4463667>likes snappinessHe’s like the epitome of why these guys all suck, I cannot take anything you have said otherwise in good faith.
I like attic darkroom for the chemistry and film experiments he does, and he doesn’t show face or anything personal that I’ve seen which is a bonus. Also like Kyle McDougall but his videos are bordering on boring and he shoots your typical still landscapes on medium format kind of thing. one thing I’ve noticed that’s odd though is that all these guys seem to have some kind of mental breakdown eventually and have to “take some time off”. Why is that? McDougall did, Peter McKinnon did, bunch of other YouTubers did the same. It’s like they brainduck themselves into “anxiety” or whatever over such an easy job I just cannot relate or understand it.
>>4469686they have online stalkers they cant acknowledge without making them crazier (non americans especially have no recourse)
>>4469686youtube just attracts attention whoring fags with mental issues. it's like politics with sociopath.
>>4469679The camera click sound when showing an image really annoys me. Especially if they have some lofi beats playing the background too.A lot of these youtube/social media people also totally overdo it with the editing / colour grading. There's no subtlety from supposed experts.
