Own and have used them all - Sony, Canon, Leica, Fuji. Nothing compares to this little guy. Has reignited my passion to shoot and is now always in my back pocket. Any other shooters feel the same?
>>4464164But have you used a Sinar P?
>>4464165Something similar in college kek. Imagine hicking the Sierra Madres with one of these over your shoulder.
>>4464164Ricoh made very few of these relative to other cameras and a lot of people find them to be a bit shit. Also street photography sucks.
>>4464168I guess I’m not a lot of people. Personally love street photography, it’s the most pure form of the craft.
>>4464170its the least artistic and most impure.
>>4464171Calling street photo “impure” is like saying jazz isn’t music because it’s messy and improvised. The art is in seeing and capturing life as it is. It takes timing, instinct, and most importantly a vision to find a frame in the chaos. What format would you rank most pure, I’m curious
>>4464170>Shove camera in face of unsuspecting normie walking home from their office job>Homeless man on meth>Grafitti "art", but also featuring a garbage can or someone walking past>Building cornersLe struggle au de artiste
>>4464173You’re cherry picking bad cliches that, yes, I agree have become memes of the craft. But in that same right, you could shit on portrait photography by referring to some neckbeard with a t2i who shoots chubby naked women in his midwestern small town basement. That anecdote should not disparage some of the greatest most captivating portrait work that stands leagues above it. Artists like Alex Webb are true visionaries and their work is firmly street.
>>4464172Egg photographyAll street sucks. We know from winogrand and hcb that there is no skill, only volume and hiding small cameras.
>>4464176https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/apr/07/alex-webb-best-photograph-children-mexico-balllmaoits winogrand all the way down. who’s the current cohen?
Yeah I’ll probably get one soon, something about the saturation and contrast is very good with them, I also live in a city now but they are way overpriced
>>4464166Okay, based. If Im shooting on my property or nearby locations I just put the whole 8x10 camera attached to tripod on my shoulder and carry a camera bag with lenses and film holders. For hikes I hurt my back with an 8x10 deardorff, 2 lenses, 3 film holders, and tripod in a backpack coming in at around 45lbs.Im cursed with the strong feeling that anything less doesn't take worthwhile pictures, unfortunately.
>>4464164really hated mine. the rx100 does everything it does, better, and smaller
>>4464164I really want a nice compact like this for travel or just if I'm not taking my main somewhere, but so many compacts I see reviews for all say they are built badly (Fuji and Ricoh in particular) and I don't know what I should go with.
>>4464197You can pick up the 3 for less than a grand now. It’s not a tank but takes a beating. I throw mine in bags unprotected all the time, glove compartment, have spilled drinks onto it, etc.
>>4464164Buy an ad.
>>4464192But Sony cameras feel like an unintuitive computer. Ricoh feels like a real natural photographic tool.
Meme camera without a real sensor
>>4464192And uglier
>>4464164I use a Sony full frame with as main, but walking around with 3 pounds around my neck sucks and is not an option for a party or a small concert or tour with friends since you're "that guy with the camera", walking around and distracting people.The GRiiix is on my belt and people dismiss it as shitty early 2000s camera and don't bother. Takes super sharp images, also in low light. AF sucks in low light and in AF-C in general, it hunts. The RAWs need to no tweaking aside from a bit of contrast and the lens correction and I mostly just use the in-camera editing since my custom presets do exactly what I'd do in post. Don't know why anons are so assblasted about it. Takes great images, is tiny, easy to use, well thought out and not expensive compared to the competing models.
>>4464164> always in my back pocketJust how fat are you?
>>4464164bro just get a z30also>street photographylol it's not 2010 anymore you aren't going to start Humans of New York or the sartorialist
>>4464173Literally every "street" thread on 4chan, but you left out the backs of people's heads
>>4464176It's not street, all staged
>>4464223I know this topic is memed to death, but do I get the x or not? I have an old canon and try to emulate 28/40 to see what it would be like but it's hard to make a decision.
>>4464178Winogrand when he staged stuff maybe
>>4464238We get it, you hate Winogrand, shit nigga you've said it in like 4 threads already
>>4464241I kinda do but what I actually hate is praising snapshits with retconned commentary to make the worthless valuable to fools and muddying the waters with staged shots that are actual art displayed as lucky accidents. The kids in New Mexico is a good example of the latter.
>>4464205they are both shitty computers but for once sony is not the pixel peeping king>>4464223the price for a 2013 camera that still vacuums dust. this is basically a communist website. its always about the undertones of corporate greed.
Unless you are super insecure and paranoid, or a turbo gear queer who hates sony for lacking some technical perfection and requires the sharpest lens to pixel peep, so you can only use the GR or your fat ass nikanon and S L USM VR lens, it’s not actually that great.
>>4464264I think the appeal is that it's sized like a digishit from a bygone era but the image quality is better because of equivalent aperture)I guess it's a valuable tool for non-photography (actual photojournalism and photojournalism of nothing aka street)
>>4464237I have the x and it’s nice for portraits but I find myself getting frustrated wanting a wider shot most times. If you have experience shooting, I’m guessing you’ll benefit from the wider lens and just walking closer to subjects if needed. The perspective is much more interesting imo than compressed focal lengths. I have the Leica Q2 for 28mm shots and use that most often, but have recently been only Ricoh this year for its size and convenience. And like >>4464223 says it’s just inconspicuous. Picked up GR4 for that wider perspective now. >>4464274Nice tripcode anon. You’re right, it scratched the itch for my nostalgic early 2000s ass when I was just starting out. Love those compact point and shoots that are 35mm f/2.8 hq lenses like the Olympus but film is so impractical for everyday shooting.
>>4464274>the dunning kruger gearfag pipes up with his spec sheet opinionsPoint made. Its a very gearfaggy machine.
>>4464282>spec sheet opinionsIt's just the truth. You get better IQ than most compacts and small size plus zone focus and other streetfag pandering features)
>>4464276>If you have experience shooting, I’m guessing you’ll benefit from the wider lens and just walking closer to subjects if needed.Only if you want to distort your subjects on purpose.
>>4464283>gotta pixel peep>that’ll be $1k-1.6ka60003rd party pancake$500>noooo snoyyyyyyy*applies preset* only autists care
>>4464264The M6 Mark IIs still go for $7-900 used and Canon doesn't have anything comparable new.A refurbished Nikon Z30 is a better deal when they go for $4-500. A ZVE10 isn't bad either for the same amount used but I think the Sony kit lens is a little out of date and the Nikon lens is better, the power zoom function is nice when you wanna operate it one handed though. I'm really disappointed in Sony APSC E Mount lenses too. Most of the focus is on the FE mount stuff which outside of the kit lens and 20mm pancake are all fuck huge and I might as well go FF (Nikon Z DX is better imo if you're sticking to apsc).>>4464262They gave it the K3 Mark 3 sensor at least but none of the autofocus capabilities. Ricoh claims they improved the sealing inside the camera.
>>4464286You could have said RX100 and have a point but noooooo, you had to be retarded. The GRIII is roughly the size of a disposable film camera or a Coolpix from 2008. The a6000 is bigger even with no pancake on. I wouldn't buy a GR but the benefits are obvious.
>>4464284Funny… I thought perspective control was a skill issue, not a lens issue.
>>4464264/threadIt's an autistic device.>NO ONE can know I have a camera! It has to disappear in my cargo shorts!>and it needs the sharpness, no 1px corner CA at 400% zoom, and a bigger sensor for the SNRIt's not a gun, its a point and shoot. wtf are you creepshotting autists doing? What laws are you breaking?Go waste that money who cares. Be dumb, pay the retard tax.
>>4464296For historical perspective - the size of a leica has never changed
>>4464296>>4464264Why would anyone not want to just carry an actual camera you like and that fits your hand properly on a strap. What's the point in hiding ur camera? If you wear it people literally will come up to you and ask to have their picture taken.
>>4464298A small body+prime that can hang out on a strap or hide under a coat is ideal for daily photography use. No lens extending, no dust sucking, no fiddling with tiny buttons and menus, just normal camera controls but smaller.I have a 28mm equiv pocket PNS with no viewfinder and shitty zone based autofocus, it's called an iphone and the image quality is indistinguishable from a GR III as long as I keep it to instagram and don't use the default camera app :^)
>>4464301Personally I just carry a DSLR with any 'shorty' lens. Sometimes a 50, sometimes a 24. Even with a battery grip it doesn't make a difference when you have it on a strap, it just sits flush against your body. Its a little uncomfortable if you wanna use longer lenses, then you usually need to take the grip off and let it hang downwards. I have no issue with this setup, I don't get why people feel the need to hide unless they're doing stuff they shouldn't.
>>4464301> You CANNOT spend money on a camera, you just can't. You MUST spend money on a phone instead.
>>4464296Anon I own a ZVE10 which is even smaller than a a6400 (same sensor/jpeg engine/AF) and it's not nearly as pocketable. The kit lens (same size as that 28mm) sticks out and gets hung up on your pants/jacket pocket as you try to put it in and out. It's actually kinda annoying. Easier to just carry it on a long strap and tuck it under your shoulder or in your hoodie pocket.
>>4464164>now always in my back pocket>sit down>whoops money stolen
Does nobody else actually use their Ricoh?Post a photo OP.
>>4464304I never talked about pocketing, except derisively>>4464303>You CANNOT spend money on a camera, you just can't. You MUST spend money on a phone instead.Well, this is a camera that wants to do what the iphone does, but the iphone already does it just as well
>>4464311You got it wrong. It's iPhone that pretends to do what a camera does, but worse, just with exposure stacking and solid amounts of cope.> But you don't have the latest iPhone 18 just for 99999 RupeesNo and I'd rather waste money on literally anything else.
>>4464308Sure, I can share a range of shots I've taken on the GR3x. Here's some NY
>>4464311>>4464312I just clicked "post", and you know what, you are right in one aspect. A point and shoot camera shouldn't cost more than an expensive phone.
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Some beach/coastal shots
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>>4464297PXLmag is notoriously inaccurate in their scaling, even the sizes listed in your table give it away. a6000 is almost 10% taller yet they look the same in PXLmag.https://camerasize.com/compact/#885,535,819,ha,f
Leonardo da Vinci invented sfumato which is the blurring of colours where they meet in a painting. The Ricoh seems to do it, doesn’t it
>>4464296>want a small compact edc>nooooo please buy my gigantic double the size snoy toy with horrible lens because i said so reeeeeeee
>>4464336>edcNever has there been more reddit a wordYou have to carry your phone anyways, cargo shorts bro. Spending $1500 on a ricoh GR is just a gearfag pixel peeper micro-optimizing meme. And if you think it is somehow helpful to photography you're just confirming your idea of photography is volume+luck which results in winogrand forever.
>>4464296>>4464365
>>4464336Canon S95
Any list of pros and cons of the Ricoh GRIIIX vs the Sony RX100VII? Prices look basically the same
>>4464373This is what works for me.
>>4464386Do you live in Saskatoon?
>>4464396Great pics. Ricoh? >>4464386Love the mood here. Was this the Canon?
>>4464365You need volume to get better (at anything).
>>4464400Nah. You need experience not simply volume.
>>4464324Do you mind sharing the recipe you used for this one? I love this aesthetic.>>4464399Yeah this & the bridge are the GR III.
>>4464403I process in Lightroom. But here's the "recipe" of adjustments if you want to match:Contrast: -20%Highlights: -25%Shadows: +50%Whites: +10%Blacks: -20%Vibrance: +20%Slight S-Curve added overall to compensate for removed contrast sliderBump selective saturation of yellow/orange (or shift WB more in the warmer direction). Also a selective bump for blue. I usually bump the luminance of blues as well so they don't go too deep in the sky.Tinge of warm tones added to shadows and cool tones added to highlights (amber/blue split tone)XXX: XX%XXX: XX%
>>4464399Yeah the pool pic was shot on the S95.
>>4464372>best argument against sony to date is one single youtube video with a white balance fuckup>minutes later the white balance fuckup was reversedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N2VKRJ27DE&t=258sregardless, anyone who uses FF ILCs to vlog can just be ignored. what a waste of a camera. it's like buying high end kitchenware to make ramen.>Santoku Silver Steel #3 Damascus Buffalo Wenge Handle>the dish: chopped green onions to go in some maruchan
>>4464416>food analogy
>>4464407Thanks, anon!
can you zoom on ricoh?
>>4464460Yeah you walk closer to the fat hobo you're trying to get le art from
>>4464416Yeah but her ramen is eaten when served
>>4464463I dislike this ‘Le art’ meme. If you don’t like art or are against it, fuck off and kys
>>4464379It’s quite a conundrum isn’t it. The RX100VII is way better on paper, especially how the video is usable. But the main issue is the barnacle, tuber lens shape that is absolutely hideous. Aside from making you feel weird about it, you have to point that thing at people and take their photo, I mean I can’t imagine anything worse.
>>4464379Sony is a meme. Just get the Ricoh.
>>4464507>snapshits of hobos>art
>>4464365There ARE valid uses for pocket cameras, they're just better suited for the likes of the WG-80 than the GR III. I'm talking about photographing in the middle of doing some types of sports.
>>4464507>trigged by the truthPost your blurry back of heads please so I can laugh at you even harder
>>4464365meds
>>4464164>all these street photography fagsWhile it excels at street photography for obvious reasons, its true role is as a daily life camera.The GRIIIx has replaced my phone for such purposes. I take it in my pocket every time I leave the house for anything more than a quick trip to the grocery store. The leaf shutter and built in ND filter are not to be underestimated; you can do things that are essentially impossible with a phone (that's not even mentioning the absolute given difference in IQ and pure visual appeal).>>4464264>>4464296You're both fucking retarded. I won't buy an A6400 or a Z30 or whatever the fuck with pancake, because it doesn't fit in a pants pocket. That's literally the entire point of the GR line. If I'm going to work I don't have room for anything larger in my briefcase and I don't want to carry a camera around my neck like a tourist. It's not hard to understand.>>4464301Nope to all claims, kill yourself.>>4464379Tiny smartphone tier sensor with a shitty zoom versus APS-C with a prime? Wow, what a hard decision anon.
Ricoh could have asked for such a price if they made it from aluminum and gave it a solid state battery with double the capacity. Instead if all the same unimaginative shit
desu all apsc systems have complete shit image rendering unless you put a f1.2 lens on them, at that point there is no point owing an apsc if it's big and heavy.
>>4464708Can you prove this with example images?
>>4464708what the fuck has rendering got tondo with maximum aperture? pseud speak
>>4464617The problem is the GRIV is $1000 + tip extra over the Z30/A6400 and you're still dealing with shitty autofocus and crap Ricoh build quality with no seals. Your sensor will be full of lint in a year.
>>4464714That's your average /p/ gearfag for yah!
>>4464719>Z30/A6400Isn't the A6400 more of a video vlog cam than a stills camera? And even then, why not he A6700?
>>4464164I'm considering buying GR IV for travels, currently use my iphone but the pictures come out soulless and look shit on bigger screen (not ruling out im just bad at it) Should I preorder?
>>4464714bigger lenses produce prettier pictures
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>>4464864Left is a better photo, but not because of gear.
>>4464868Because you prefer old men vs nice booty?
>>4464859"is the sky blue" type of question, yes preorder
>>4464859Why not just try a used a6100 or a6400/refurb Z30 when they come up? $500 to decide if you like using a whole separate item to take photos and introduce a workflow where you're going from camera to social media is a hell of a lot easier to swallow than $1500 + tax. Especially for novices to the hobby who just want something that takes better pics than their phone.That's my problem with the Ricoh GR series. They're chasing Leica customers without the cachet, brand, or even the quality. If it was $700 no one would give a fuck. Ignore everything I said if you wipe your ass with money and $1500 for something you might use 5-6 times and forget about in a drawer means nothing to you.
>>4464708APS-C from 2007 with f5.6 lens
>>4464859I used a D800 and 35/1.4 Sigma ART when I traveled to Ireland.It wasn't as big or bulky and I definitely carried it literally everywhere. 35mm on fool frame is plenty unless you're shooting wildlife or distant landscapes. I didn't put my battery grip on to keep it light and small and it was an absolute joy to shoot with.I did some of my best ever work on that setup in all my years of shooting and you can buy them for way less than I paid for it these days, you could probably buy that lens and body for 500 together if you're diligent.
>>4464708lol that's not trueIn a blind comparison, you wouldn't be able to tell which was which
>>4464882>>4464868all I'm saying is x100v and griii fixed lenses are garbage, it's nearly indistinguishable from iPhone 16 but I'm ready to change my mind, show me good pics made with apsc and a lens that is f1.8 or slower>>4464877ok this is a monochrome picture of a rock, what's your point?
>>4464619Magnesium is more expensive and better for cameras friend.>>4464379>>4464859The Ricoh is something you should get if you're into the hobby for some time and know what you want from a camera. You will automatically gravitate towards it, if it fits your needs.The RX100VII is pretty much the closest thing to a Swiss army knife when it comes to cameras. Does everything you need well enough but the steel (Lens, sensor) is meh. It's the better choice for you especially travel anon. A zoom lens is always recommended for travel.
>>4464891Stop shitting up the thread you mentally ill faggot. Post photos or fuck your gay lover you doublenigger.
>>4464894meds and i already showed a picture.
>>4464859The biggest advantage of the GR is it's tiny yet offers very good image quality, even better than the X100VI for example. So it's worth it if you want something that, like your phone, you always have with you. Out of camera jpegs also have nice colors depending on the film sim you use but they also are easy and fun to edit in lightroom. The price is heavy at first but there really is no alternative on the market. Everything else doesn't fit in your pocket or offers less IQ.
>>4464164APS-C is a mental illness. If I want to shoot small sensor size I use my iPhone. If I want art I use FF or bigger. Everything in between has no usecase & you're lying to yourself.
>>4464900>everything between FF and "bigger" has a usecase>everything between smartphones and FF doesn'tlmao
>>4464868You're an actual faggot lmao>>4464864Yeah I can clearly see it. The tones on the x100scam are muddy. You could get the same look out of any cheap piece of shit like a $250 micro four thirds setup and a capture one preset.Vain wannabe = x100Chad photographer = lumix gf1 + 20mm 1.7Fuji does not make good cameras.The GR is a scam too. All that money and for what? Barely fitting in a jeans pocket if you're fat, leaving zero room for your phone and wallet? Dios mio.
>>4464901>everything between FF and "bigger" has a usecase>everything between smartphones and FF doesn'tthis is close to the truth no capaps-c is pointlessmicro four thirds, full frame, and medium format have a point>BUT PHONE?keep your 28mm forced hdr ai enhanced shit lmao
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>>4464868>a cropped looking photo of an old man bending over taken for no clear reason is better than a posed portrait that tells a storythis is your brain on teenagers pretending to be artists
>>4464903>>everything between FF and "bigger" has a usecase>>everything between smartphones and FF doesn't>this is close to the truth no cap>aps-c is pointless>micro four thirds, full frame, and medium format have a pointI'm almost with you but I'd put m43 in useless category too. Only iPhone or real camera are useful. Nothing in between.
>>4464903>micro four thirds, full frame, and medium format have a pointcare to say what those points are or aren't instead of making empty statements?
>>4464901Yes. Unironically.Phones killed off point and shits for everything except ergos and you can buy a $30 attachment for your phone if you need it.M43 is a meme for a reason. Exist soley for arthritic birders and gear nerds.Bridge cameras have a very small niche for poor people who want maximum reech.APS-C used to make sense at the dawn of digital because of high wafer costs. The only reason to buy one these days is because you can't afford full frame. Can still compete fairly well against FF in good light and at base ISO.FF is literally the first logical step over phone cameras. The only point worth buying unless you can't afford it.Hassleblyat and Fooji MF are for studios and maximum shadow recovering.
>>4464907>iphonekeep your planned obsolescence, forced hdr, AI censored fixed 28mm crap thanksphones are the only cameras using AI to replace things in images without user input and the forced hdr stacks a 1/1000s exposure and a 1s exposure together and smears everything. they are useless for anything but texting object ID photos to your mom.>>4464911>bro just use an adapter on your iphone!i bet that looks amazing (it doesn't)>>4464908>PLS WRITE A LOGICAL DISSERTATION FOR ME, I REQUIRE PROGRAMMINGthink for yourself, you autistic NPC. you literal fucking robot. jesus christ. if it's not apparent to you this is not the board you belong on.
>>4464911>M43 is a meme for a reason.reason not provided>Phones killed off point and shits for everything except ergosraw files from phones are atrocious, and the jpegs are unusable>APS-C used to make sense at the dawn of digital because of high wafer costs.FF still cost a shit ton when factoring in all the advancements technology has had in 20 years. by now an entry level FF should cost $700 or so>Bridge cameraswe are talking about the merits of sensor sizes, not camera typesComplaining about sensor size in a fixed lens camera is one of the most retarded things ever. Ricoh wants to offer native 3:2 images in a pocketable format and this literally leaves only APS-C as an option. APS-C IMLs are indeed worthless, but single purpose cameras can do whatever the fuck they want
>>4464913The only 2 reasons why you would reply so emotionally when asked to produce an argument are>you have none, it's all feefees>you think your opinion is the objective truth both options are really sad
>>4464913>bro just use an adapter on your iphone!>i bet that looks amazing (it doesn't)A grip adapter you knucklefuck. For ergos? Learn to read ESL nigger.>>4464915>M43 is a meme for a reason.>reason not providedReasons incoming:>Shit noise at base (800) ISO>Far worse SNR at every ISO than even APS-C (some cameras compete for APS-C-tier DR)>Horrible JPEG engines in everything except the most modern units>Most general purpose focal ranges are more heavily distorted due to the far lower focal lengths needed, requiring more correction>High pixel pitch sensor assfucks low-light performance and kneecaps any ability to render colors accurately>Mount "Alliance" is a sham. Lens/body cross compatibility doesn't exist.>"Pro" lens lineup is just as expensive as real cameras despite having objectively worse specs >OM shitstem is in abandonware stage>Panashitic moving further towards muh video codecs because they're better of marketing as camcorders than actual cameras
>>4464919This is a m43 image and I fail to see why it would be a meme
>>4464920they're retards who go outside twice a year to take 12 pics, jerking off their 3k FF cameras online and lost the point of photography.this whole thread made me lose braincells
>>4464920A phone could have taken that mang.
>>4464891https://thebkmag.com/2020/11/22/tiana-tolstoi-in-next-stop-paris-for-vogue-china-film-by-benjamin-kanarek/>APS-C and X-Trans, good enough for Vogue, not good enough for p
>>4464928Nothing is good enough for p. The entire point is to argue about gear and stats so you don't have to post/argue about the photos you take.
>>4464920It's meme because you spent money on a product from a company that didn't pay for a good marketing campaign.
>>4464928Vogue hired the cheapest mf (probably female) they could get from fivver to promote some garbage collection.
>>4464954some mf fat head got in the way of the softbox, that's you see that dark spot on her abdomen
>>4464954Well, he seems to have no problem continuing to work with them, Elle, and othersI like how your criticism omits anything related to aps-c, which was the original point
