Own and have used them all - Sony, Canon, Leica, Fuji. Nothing compares to this little guy. Has reignited my passion to shoot and is now always in my back pocket. Any other shooters feel the same?
>>4464164But have you used a Sinar P?
>>4464165Something similar in college kek. Imagine hicking the Sierra Madres with one of these over your shoulder.
>>4464164Ricoh made very few of these relative to other cameras and a lot of people find them to be a bit shit. Also street photography sucks.
>>4464168I guess I’m not a lot of people. Personally love street photography, it’s the most pure form of the craft.
>>4464170its the least artistic and most impure.
>>4464171Calling street photo “impure” is like saying jazz isn’t music because it’s messy and improvised. The art is in seeing and capturing life as it is. It takes timing, instinct, and most importantly a vision to find a frame in the chaos. What format would you rank most pure, I’m curious
>>4464170>Shove camera in face of unsuspecting normie walking home from their office job>Homeless man on meth>Grafitti "art", but also featuring a garbage can or someone walking past>Building cornersLe struggle au de artiste
>>4464173You’re cherry picking bad cliches that, yes, I agree have become memes of the craft. But in that same right, you could shit on portrait photography by referring to some neckbeard with a t2i who shoots chubby naked women in his midwestern small town basement. That anecdote should not disparage some of the greatest most captivating portrait work that stands leagues above it. Artists like Alex Webb are true visionaries and their work is firmly street.
>>4464172Egg photographyAll street sucks. We know from winogrand and hcb that there is no skill, only volume and hiding small cameras.
>>4464176https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/apr/07/alex-webb-best-photograph-children-mexico-balllmaoits winogrand all the way down. who’s the current cohen?
Yeah I’ll probably get one soon, something about the saturation and contrast is very good with them, I also live in a city now but they are way overpriced
>>4464166Okay, based. If Im shooting on my property or nearby locations I just put the whole 8x10 camera attached to tripod on my shoulder and carry a camera bag with lenses and film holders. For hikes I hurt my back with an 8x10 deardorff, 2 lenses, 3 film holders, and tripod in a backpack coming in at around 45lbs.Im cursed with the strong feeling that anything less doesn't take worthwhile pictures, unfortunately.
>>4464164really hated mine. the rx100 does everything it does, better, and smaller
>>4464164I really want a nice compact like this for travel or just if I'm not taking my main somewhere, but so many compacts I see reviews for all say they are built badly (Fuji and Ricoh in particular) and I don't know what I should go with.
>>4464197You can pick up the 3 for less than a grand now. It’s not a tank but takes a beating. I throw mine in bags unprotected all the time, glove compartment, have spilled drinks onto it, etc.
>>4464164Buy an ad.
>>4464192But Sony cameras feel like an unintuitive computer. Ricoh feels like a real natural photographic tool.
Meme camera without a real sensor
>>4464192And uglier
>>4464164I use a Sony full frame with as main, but walking around with 3 pounds around my neck sucks and is not an option for a party or a small concert or tour with friends since you're "that guy with the camera", walking around and distracting people.The GRiiix is on my belt and people dismiss it as shitty early 2000s camera and don't bother. Takes super sharp images, also in low light. AF sucks in low light and in AF-C in general, it hunts. The RAWs need to no tweaking aside from a bit of contrast and the lens correction and I mostly just use the in-camera editing since my custom presets do exactly what I'd do in post. Don't know why anons are so assblasted about it. Takes great images, is tiny, easy to use, well thought out and not expensive compared to the competing models.
>>4464164> always in my back pocketJust how fat are you?
>>4464164bro just get a z30also>street photographylol it's not 2010 anymore you aren't going to start Humans of New York or the sartorialist
>>4464173Literally every "street" thread on 4chan, but you left out the backs of people's heads
>>4464176It's not street, all staged
>>4464223I know this topic is memed to death, but do I get the x or not? I have an old canon and try to emulate 28/40 to see what it would be like but it's hard to make a decision.
>>4464178Winogrand when he staged stuff maybe
>>4464238We get it, you hate Winogrand, shit nigga you've said it in like 4 threads already
>>4464241I kinda do but what I actually hate is praising snapshits with retconned commentary to make the worthless valuable to fools and muddying the waters with staged shots that are actual art displayed as lucky accidents. The kids in New Mexico is a good example of the latter.
>>4464205they are both shitty computers but for once sony is not the pixel peeping king>>4464223the price for a 2013 camera that still vacuums dust. this is basically a communist website. its always about the undertones of corporate greed.
Unless you are super insecure and paranoid, or a turbo gear queer who hates sony for lacking some technical perfection and requires the sharpest lens to pixel peep, so you can only use the GR or your fat ass nikanon and S L USM VR lens, it’s not actually that great.
>>4464264I think the appeal is that it's sized like a digishit from a bygone era but the image quality is better because of equivalent aperture)I guess it's a valuable tool for non-photography (actual photojournalism and photojournalism of nothing aka street)
>>4464237I have the x and it’s nice for portraits but I find myself getting frustrated wanting a wider shot most times. If you have experience shooting, I’m guessing you’ll benefit from the wider lens and just walking closer to subjects if needed. The perspective is much more interesting imo than compressed focal lengths. I have the Leica Q2 for 28mm shots and use that most often, but have recently been only Ricoh this year for its size and convenience. And like >>4464223 says it’s just inconspicuous. Picked up GR4 for that wider perspective now. >>4464274Nice tripcode anon. You’re right, it scratched the itch for my nostalgic early 2000s ass when I was just starting out. Love those compact point and shoots that are 35mm f/2.8 hq lenses like the Olympus but film is so impractical for everyday shooting.
>>4464274>the dunning kruger gearfag pipes up with his spec sheet opinionsPoint made. Its a very gearfaggy machine.
>>4464282>spec sheet opinionsIt's just the truth. You get better IQ than most compacts and small size plus zone focus and other streetfag pandering features)
>>4464276>If you have experience shooting, I’m guessing you’ll benefit from the wider lens and just walking closer to subjects if needed.Only if you want to distort your subjects on purpose.
>>4464283>gotta pixel peep>that’ll be $1k-1.6ka60003rd party pancake$500>noooo snoyyyyyyy*applies preset* only autists care
>>4464264The M6 Mark IIs still go for $7-900 used and Canon doesn't have anything comparable new.A refurbished Nikon Z30 is a better deal when they go for $4-500. A ZVE10 isn't bad either for the same amount used but I think the Sony kit lens is a little out of date and the Nikon lens is better, the power zoom function is nice when you wanna operate it one handed though. I'm really disappointed in Sony APSC E Mount lenses too. Most of the focus is on the FE mount stuff which outside of the kit lens and 20mm pancake are all fuck huge and I might as well go FF (Nikon Z DX is better imo if you're sticking to apsc).>>4464262They gave it the K3 Mark 3 sensor at least but none of the autofocus capabilities. Ricoh claims they improved the sealing inside the camera.
>>4464286You could have said RX100 and have a point but noooooo, you had to be retarded. The GRIII is roughly the size of a disposable film camera or a Coolpix from 2008. The a6000 is bigger even with no pancake on. I wouldn't buy a GR but the benefits are obvious.
>>4464284Funny… I thought perspective control was a skill issue, not a lens issue.
>>4464264/threadIt's an autistic device.>NO ONE can know I have a camera! It has to disappear in my cargo shorts!>and it needs the sharpness, no 1px corner CA at 400% zoom, and a bigger sensor for the SNRIt's not a gun, its a point and shoot. wtf are you creepshotting autists doing? What laws are you breaking?Go waste that money who cares. Be dumb, pay the retard tax.
>>4464296For historical perspective - the size of a leica has never changed
>>4464296>>4464264Why would anyone not want to just carry an actual camera you like and that fits your hand properly on a strap. What's the point in hiding ur camera? If you wear it people literally will come up to you and ask to have their picture taken.
>>4464298A small body+prime that can hang out on a strap or hide under a coat is ideal for daily photography use. No lens extending, no dust sucking, no fiddling with tiny buttons and menus, just normal camera controls but smaller.I have a 28mm equiv pocket PNS with no viewfinder and shitty zone based autofocus, it's called an iphone and the image quality is indistinguishable from a GR III as long as I keep it to instagram and don't use the default camera app :^)
>>4464301Personally I just carry a DSLR with any 'shorty' lens. Sometimes a 50, sometimes a 24. Even with a battery grip it doesn't make a difference when you have it on a strap, it just sits flush against your body. Its a little uncomfortable if you wanna use longer lenses, then you usually need to take the grip off and let it hang downwards. I have no issue with this setup, I don't get why people feel the need to hide unless they're doing stuff they shouldn't.
>>4464301> You CANNOT spend money on a camera, you just can't. You MUST spend money on a phone instead.
>>4464296Anon I own a ZVE10 which is even smaller than a a6400 (same sensor/jpeg engine/AF) and it's not nearly as pocketable. The kit lens (same size as that 28mm) sticks out and gets hung up on your pants/jacket pocket as you try to put it in and out. It's actually kinda annoying. Easier to just carry it on a long strap and tuck it under your shoulder or in your hoodie pocket.
>>4464164>now always in my back pocket>sit down>whoops money stolen
Does nobody else actually use their Ricoh?Post a photo OP.
>>4464304I never talked about pocketing, except derisively>>4464303>You CANNOT spend money on a camera, you just can't. You MUST spend money on a phone instead.Well, this is a camera that wants to do what the iphone does, but the iphone already does it just as well
>>4464311You got it wrong. It's iPhone that pretends to do what a camera does, but worse, just with exposure stacking and solid amounts of cope.> But you don't have the latest iPhone 18 just for 99999 RupeesNo and I'd rather waste money on literally anything else.
>>4464308Sure, I can share a range of shots I've taken on the GR3x. Here's some NY
>>4464311>>4464312I just clicked "post", and you know what, you are right in one aspect. A point and shoot camera shouldn't cost more than an expensive phone.
>>4464308
Some beach/coastal shots
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>>4464323
>>4464297PXLmag is notoriously inaccurate in their scaling, even the sizes listed in your table give it away. a6000 is almost 10% taller yet they look the same in PXLmag.https://camerasize.com/compact/#885,535,819,ha,f
Leonardo da Vinci invented sfumato which is the blurring of colours where they meet in a painting. The Ricoh seems to do it, doesn’t it
>>4464296>want a small compact edc>nooooo please buy my gigantic double the size snoy toy with horrible lens because i said so reeeeeeee
>>4464336>edcNever has there been more reddit a wordYou have to carry your phone anyways, cargo shorts bro. Spending $1500 on a ricoh GR is just a gearfag pixel peeper micro-optimizing meme. And if you think it is somehow helpful to photography you're just confirming your idea of photography is volume+luck which results in winogrand forever.
>>4464296>>4464365
>>4464336Canon S95
Any list of pros and cons of the Ricoh GRIIIX vs the Sony RX100VII? Prices look basically the same
>>4464373This is what works for me.
>>4464386Do you live in Saskatoon?
>>4464396Great pics. Ricoh? >>4464386Love the mood here. Was this the Canon?
>>4464365You need volume to get better (at anything).
>>4464400Nah. You need experience not simply volume.
>>4464324Do you mind sharing the recipe you used for this one? I love this aesthetic.>>4464399Yeah this & the bridge are the GR III.
>>4464403I process in Lightroom. But here's the "recipe" of adjustments if you want to match:Contrast: -20%Highlights: -25%Shadows: +50%Whites: +10%Blacks: -20%Vibrance: +20%Slight S-Curve added overall to compensate for removed contrast sliderBump selective saturation of yellow/orange (or shift WB more in the warmer direction). Also a selective bump for blue. I usually bump the luminance of blues as well so they don't go too deep in the sky.Tinge of warm tones added to shadows and cool tones added to highlights (amber/blue split tone)XXX: XX%XXX: XX%
>>4464399Yeah the pool pic was shot on the S95.
>>4464372>best argument against sony to date is one single youtube video with a white balance fuckup>minutes later the white balance fuckup was reversedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N2VKRJ27DE&t=258sregardless, anyone who uses FF ILCs to vlog can just be ignored. what a waste of a camera. it's like buying high end kitchenware to make ramen.>Santoku Silver Steel #3 Damascus Buffalo Wenge Handle>the dish: chopped green onions to go in some maruchan
>>4464416>food analogy
>>4464407Thanks, anon!
can you zoom on ricoh?
>>4464460Yeah you walk closer to the fat hobo you're trying to get le art from
>>4464416Yeah but her ramen is eaten when served
>>4464463I dislike this ‘Le art’ meme. If you don’t like art or are against it, fuck off and kys
>>4464379It’s quite a conundrum isn’t it. The RX100VII is way better on paper, especially how the video is usable. But the main issue is the barnacle, tuber lens shape that is absolutely hideous. Aside from making you feel weird about it, you have to point that thing at people and take their photo, I mean I can’t imagine anything worse.
>>4464379Sony is a meme. Just get the Ricoh.
>>4464507>snapshits of hobos>art
>>4464365There ARE valid uses for pocket cameras, they're just better suited for the likes of the WG-80 than the GR III. I'm talking about photographing in the middle of doing some types of sports.
>>4464507>trigged by the truthPost your blurry back of heads please so I can laugh at you even harder
>>4464365meds
>>4464164>all these street photography fagsWhile it excels at street photography for obvious reasons, its true role is as a daily life camera.The GRIIIx has replaced my phone for such purposes. I take it in my pocket every time I leave the house for anything more than a quick trip to the grocery store. The leaf shutter and built in ND filter are not to be underestimated; you can do things that are essentially impossible with a phone (that's not even mentioning the absolute given difference in IQ and pure visual appeal).>>4464264>>4464296You're both fucking retarded. I won't buy an A6400 or a Z30 or whatever the fuck with pancake, because it doesn't fit in a pants pocket. That's literally the entire point of the GR line. If I'm going to work I don't have room for anything larger in my briefcase and I don't want to carry a camera around my neck like a tourist. It's not hard to understand.>>4464301Nope to all claims, kill yourself.>>4464379Tiny smartphone tier sensor with a shitty zoom versus APS-C with a prime? Wow, what a hard decision anon.
Ricoh could have asked for such a price if they made it from aluminum and gave it a solid state battery with double the capacity. Instead if all the same unimaginative shit
desu all apsc systems have complete shit image rendering unless you put a f1.2 lens on them, at that point there is no point owing an apsc if it's big and heavy.
>>4464708Can you prove this with example images?
>>4464708what the fuck has rendering got tondo with maximum aperture? pseud speak
>>4464617The problem is the GRIV is $1000 + tip extra over the Z30/A6400 and you're still dealing with shitty autofocus and crap Ricoh build quality with no seals. Your sensor will be full of lint in a year.
>>4464714That's your average /p/ gearfag for yah!
>>4464719>Z30/A6400Isn't the A6400 more of a video vlog cam than a stills camera? And even then, why not he A6700?
>>4464164I'm considering buying GR IV for travels, currently use my iphone but the pictures come out soulless and look shit on bigger screen (not ruling out im just bad at it) Should I preorder?
>>4464714bigger lenses produce prettier pictures
>>4464709
>>4464864Left is a better photo, but not because of gear.
>>4464868Because you prefer old men vs nice booty?
>>4464859"is the sky blue" type of question, yes preorder
>>4464859Why not just try a used a6100 or a6400/refurb Z30 when they come up? $500 to decide if you like using a whole separate item to take photos and introduce a workflow where you're going from camera to social media is a hell of a lot easier to swallow than $1500 + tax. Especially for novices to the hobby who just want something that takes better pics than their phone.That's my problem with the Ricoh GR series. They're chasing Leica customers without the cachet, brand, or even the quality. If it was $700 no one would give a fuck. Ignore everything I said if you wipe your ass with money and $1500 for something you might use 5-6 times and forget about in a drawer means nothing to you.
>>4464708APS-C from 2007 with f5.6 lens
>>4464859I used a D800 and 35/1.4 Sigma ART when I traveled to Ireland.It wasn't as big or bulky and I definitely carried it literally everywhere. 35mm on fool frame is plenty unless you're shooting wildlife or distant landscapes. I didn't put my battery grip on to keep it light and small and it was an absolute joy to shoot with.I did some of my best ever work on that setup in all my years of shooting and you can buy them for way less than I paid for it these days, you could probably buy that lens and body for 500 together if you're diligent.
>>4464708lol that's not trueIn a blind comparison, you wouldn't be able to tell which was which
>>4464882>>4464868all I'm saying is x100v and griii fixed lenses are garbage, it's nearly indistinguishable from iPhone 16 but I'm ready to change my mind, show me good pics made with apsc and a lens that is f1.8 or slower>>4464877ok this is a monochrome picture of a rock, what's your point?
>>4464619Magnesium is more expensive and better for cameras friend.>>4464379>>4464859The Ricoh is something you should get if you're into the hobby for some time and know what you want from a camera. You will automatically gravitate towards it, if it fits your needs.The RX100VII is pretty much the closest thing to a Swiss army knife when it comes to cameras. Does everything you need well enough but the steel (Lens, sensor) is meh. It's the better choice for you especially travel anon. A zoom lens is always recommended for travel.
>>4464891Stop shitting up the thread you mentally ill faggot. Post photos or fuck your gay lover you doublenigger.
>>4464894meds and i already showed a picture.
>>4464859The biggest advantage of the GR is it's tiny yet offers very good image quality, even better than the X100VI for example. So it's worth it if you want something that, like your phone, you always have with you. Out of camera jpegs also have nice colors depending on the film sim you use but they also are easy and fun to edit in lightroom. The price is heavy at first but there really is no alternative on the market. Everything else doesn't fit in your pocket or offers less IQ.
>>4464164APS-C is a mental illness. If I want to shoot small sensor size I use my iPhone. If I want art I use FF or bigger. Everything in between has no usecase & you're lying to yourself.
>>4464900>everything between FF and "bigger" has a usecase>everything between smartphones and FF doesn'tlmao
>>4464868You're an actual faggot lmao>>4464864Yeah I can clearly see it. The tones on the x100scam are muddy. You could get the same look out of any cheap piece of shit like a $250 micro four thirds setup and a capture one preset.Vain wannabe = x100Chad photographer = lumix gf1 + 20mm 1.7Fuji does not make good cameras.The GR is a scam too. All that money and for what? Barely fitting in a jeans pocket if you're fat, leaving zero room for your phone and wallet? Dios mio.
>>4464901>everything between FF and "bigger" has a usecase>everything between smartphones and FF doesn'tthis is close to the truth no capaps-c is pointlessmicro four thirds, full frame, and medium format have a point>BUT PHONE?keep your 28mm forced hdr ai enhanced shit lmao
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>>4464868>a cropped looking photo of an old man bending over taken for no clear reason is better than a posed portrait that tells a storythis is your brain on teenagers pretending to be artists
>>4464903>>everything between FF and "bigger" has a usecase>>everything between smartphones and FF doesn't>this is close to the truth no cap>aps-c is pointless>micro four thirds, full frame, and medium format have a pointI'm almost with you but I'd put m43 in useless category too. Only iPhone or real camera are useful. Nothing in between.
>>4464903>micro four thirds, full frame, and medium format have a pointcare to say what those points are or aren't instead of making empty statements?
>>4464901Yes. Unironically.Phones killed off point and shits for everything except ergos and you can buy a $30 attachment for your phone if you need it.M43 is a meme for a reason. Exist soley for arthritic birders and gear nerds.Bridge cameras have a very small niche for poor people who want maximum reech.APS-C used to make sense at the dawn of digital because of high wafer costs. The only reason to buy one these days is because you can't afford full frame. Can still compete fairly well against FF in good light and at base ISO.FF is literally the first logical step over phone cameras. The only point worth buying unless you can't afford it.Hassleblyat and Fooji MF are for studios and maximum shadow recovering.
>>4464907>iphonekeep your planned obsolescence, forced hdr, AI censored fixed 28mm crap thanksphones are the only cameras using AI to replace things in images without user input and the forced hdr stacks a 1/1000s exposure and a 1s exposure together and smears everything. they are useless for anything but texting object ID photos to your mom.>>4464911>bro just use an adapter on your iphone!i bet that looks amazing (it doesn't)>>4464908>PLS WRITE A LOGICAL DISSERTATION FOR ME, I REQUIRE PROGRAMMINGthink for yourself, you autistic NPC. you literal fucking robot. jesus christ. if it's not apparent to you this is not the board you belong on.
>>4464911>M43 is a meme for a reason.reason not provided>Phones killed off point and shits for everything except ergosraw files from phones are atrocious, and the jpegs are unusable>APS-C used to make sense at the dawn of digital because of high wafer costs.FF still cost a shit ton when factoring in all the advancements technology has had in 20 years. by now an entry level FF should cost $700 or so>Bridge cameraswe are talking about the merits of sensor sizes, not camera typesComplaining about sensor size in a fixed lens camera is one of the most retarded things ever. Ricoh wants to offer native 3:2 images in a pocketable format and this literally leaves only APS-C as an option. APS-C IMLs are indeed worthless, but single purpose cameras can do whatever the fuck they want
>>4464913The only 2 reasons why you would reply so emotionally when asked to produce an argument are>you have none, it's all feefees>you think your opinion is the objective truth both options are really sad
>>4464913>bro just use an adapter on your iphone!>i bet that looks amazing (it doesn't)A grip adapter you knucklefuck. For ergos? Learn to read ESL nigger.>>4464915>M43 is a meme for a reason.>reason not providedReasons incoming:>Shit noise at base (800) ISO>Far worse SNR at every ISO than even APS-C (some cameras compete for APS-C-tier DR)>Horrible JPEG engines in everything except the most modern units>Most general purpose focal ranges are more heavily distorted due to the far lower focal lengths needed, requiring more correction>High pixel pitch sensor assfucks low-light performance and kneecaps any ability to render colors accurately>Mount "Alliance" is a sham. Lens/body cross compatibility doesn't exist.>"Pro" lens lineup is just as expensive as real cameras despite having objectively worse specs >OM shitstem is in abandonware stage>Panashitic moving further towards muh video codecs because they're better of marketing as camcorders than actual cameras
>>4464919This is a m43 image and I fail to see why it would be a meme
>>4464920they're retards who go outside twice a year to take 12 pics, jerking off their 3k FF cameras online and lost the point of photography.this whole thread made me lose braincells
>>4464920A phone could have taken that mang.
>>4464891https://thebkmag.com/2020/11/22/tiana-tolstoi-in-next-stop-paris-for-vogue-china-film-by-benjamin-kanarek/>APS-C and X-Trans, good enough for Vogue, not good enough for p
>>4464928Nothing is good enough for p. The entire point is to argue about gear and stats so you don't have to post/argue about the photos you take.
>>4464920It's meme because you spent money on a product from a company that didn't pay for a good marketing campaign.
>>4464928Vogue hired the cheapest mf (probably female) they could get from fivver to promote some garbage collection.
>>4464954some mf fat head got in the way of the softbox, that's you see that dark spot on her abdomen
>>4464954Well, he seems to have no problem continuing to work with them, Elle, and othersI like how your criticism omits anything related to aps-c, which was the original point
>>4464961so if vogue hired a man who shoots on a potato then we all should accept that potato photos are acceptable? what's your point fag?
>>4464977You can actually take a picture on a leaf. Ill email vogue and see if they like the idea.
All of you sound absolutely miserable.
I'm a tourist from /g/ I thought you guys had better taste suggesting to use the overprocessed algorithmic shit from phones it's not even real photos at this point not to speak of the AI diarrhea
>>4464928I think it goes without saying that if you work in a studio and are only printing magazine covers, you can get away with much worse gear than you would prefer otherwise and it's more about what the money source thinks it looks like (and your relationship with the relevant brand) than what it actually is. Based terry took the lowest effort possible photos on a lumix gf1+kit zoom and got published, and people now know him for that instead of the canon DSLR he usually used. Mostly because of who was in the photos, and what he got them to do.I could use a z6 (not even a II) or even micro four thirds for paid work, but I use a z7ii because day to day I like to have superior dog fur/pine needle definition and it's literally 3 cameras in one, very useful, worth the money.>45mp>26mp mraw>20mp DXJust because a nepobaby used a fuji once doesn't mean it's a wise use of money for non-nepobabies general use and /p/ is generally justified in thinking fuji makes rattly, unreliable overpriced, faux-luxury junk for fashion victims (because they do). Since micro four thirds encompasses plenty of small, retro bodies for applications where peak image quality is irrelevant and looks are, it's a legitimate alternative to fujifilm. Simply shoot raw and select your film sim later.>>4464977More magazine shoots have been done with the canon 5dII and 5dIII than basically any other cameras so if magazines are the standard, we should all go out and buy a 5d ASAP
>>446492112 decent photos a year is a good crop-ansel adams
>>4465000none of them are good that's the problem
>>4465001better than yours even though this is /p/ and (sane) people literally cant post their good shitand they'd be even worse if they had to be found under a mountain of aimless EDC snapshits and touched up to remove the dust spots. there's value in taking less photos and being more purposeful when it's film, but when it's digital all of a sudden it has to be "le EDC"... confusing.why can't ricoh figure out how to keep dust out of a camera that cost as much as a used motorcycle?
>>4464999>fuji makes rattly, unreliable overpriced, faux-luxury junk for fashion victims […] the canon 5dII and 5dIII […] are the standard […] go out and buy a 5d ASAP. >>4465004>/o/pinionNow we know why cANON never posts photos with his trip.
>>4464893Travel would be the #1 use for it and just having it with me if I'm on a short trip where it can cover a good range of situations. I've read it's not great at night photos but on a trip I'd probably be somewhere with a lot of lighting anyway.
>>4464999are we going to pretend 5diii is a bad camera now?
>>4465022This is the official scoop>fuji makes rattly, unreliable overpriced, faux-luxury junk for fashion victims […] the canon 5dII and 5dIII […] are the standard […] go out and buy a 5d ASAP.
>>4465009I'm not huskyfag, he's just muddying the waters (intentionally or not, I for one am glad the fashion victim concept is catching on) while making true statements about Fuji and about what DSLR is arguably the sanest purchase for most people. Also I'm not anti-Ricoh GR save for the focal length. I'd clean the sensor myself if I had one.
>>4464921>>4465000Unironically 12-20 great shots per year is all you need. I average about 3k shots a year over my travels, every day life and activity, personal projects and such. To distill my life down to 12 pics a year - ultimately over say 50 years on my death bed - that’s about 1000 images of quality.
>>4465009Take your meds anonymous coward
>>4465038ok huskyfag
>>4465038>im not huskyfag we just showed up at the same time and act the exact sameYou are the main personaHuskyfag and doghair are you taking photos of your friends dogs
>>4464859no, it has no dust or water protection and will self destruct if you try to go anywhere with it
>>4465045Absolutely correct.
>>4465051The triple insult flawlessly executed.
really considering the gr3x but already have the gr3. Mostly do random snapshits and street, but kinda feel the gr3 is a bit too wide. Anyone have both?also >>4464317sooc?
>Filter (name != "Anonymous")>Attention seekers btfo>Thread experience improvesIs this the solution to make /p/ great again?
>>4465090basedfuck tripfags
>>4465004>better than youkek you never could
>>4465045Im not talking about filtering 12 pics out of 3k, it was satire to say they don't really give a shit about their photography and get the best of it but rather jerk off their gear like good consumerists
>>4465078It’s edited in Lightroom. The general look I use is referenced in this post - >>4464407Have both models and find myself using the 28mm more often. Can always crop in if needed. The X is nice to isolate people but a bit more restrictive and the look isn’t as gripping imo. >>4465144Ah yeah. YouTuber gear review types. I’m guilty of GAS like most of us are, but only because I love to shoot with many different types of cameras each with a unique experience. That’s why I love the Ricoh though, it’s so simplistic that it forces me to just connect with the moment. Much like my Q2 as well
>>4465170>That’s why I love the Ricoh though, it’s so simplistic that it forces me to just connect with the moment.this is so fucking gay. literally shopping for meaning. ceding your free will and mindfulness to a plastic box made by underpaid teenagers in hanoi.its like those people who are so mentally fucked they need to buy a fixed lens camera not for the size but because they cant just decide to leave one lens on, they have to BUY leaving one lens on. obsessed with authenticity in its most irrelevant forms. prostrated at the altar of the purchase. if there were two products, one that could be upgraded by the user for very little money, and one with the upgrade already in place for 3x the price, this kind of person would go for the latter and talk about the authentic experience.
>>4465198You sound bitter. I grew up with photography mentors who shot studio catalog work, weddings, etc - and they all appreciated cameras for the marvel of technology that they are. Each had collections, including their first cameras, professional use gear, personal gear… I shoot for work and for myself. I own many bodies and won’t apologize for it. I applaud anyone putting constraints upon themselves by using a specific lens only or trying to capture a project in variable parameters. It’s the artistic exercise of limitation.
>>4465208bitterness and regular disgust are related. the motivations differ. so did i. even a few of my relatives are actual working photographers - the kind that has to travel the world for a paycheck. they all have a film camera shelf. even today they dont have a lot of digitals. its typically a 5d or d700, some tiny travel digital, and whatever their current warrantied and insured work camera is. my uncle has a pentax mf digital, a pocket sized coolpix, and 5 hasselblad v system bodies. ive never heard anything like buying a camera to change your photography. these men have shot wildlife on 120. they force cameras to conform to their photography.
>>4465221>ive never heard anything like buying a camera to change your photography.Really? It’s quite common. Like I said, there’s the R5 and zoom lens system for live events and wedding. Then I prefer a fixed lens smaller camera for my personal everyday. Sometimes I need a full frame sensor when doing cinematography work that can crop several shots from 8K, other times I prefer S35 with a different style of lens.
>>4465235sounds like you’re just a gearfag. gay.
>>4465238>>4465221>these men have shot wildlife on 120. they force cameras to conform to their photography.this alone is ten times gayer than the rest of the thread combined. and that's fine!
>>4465255Ahem.https://exelmagazine.org/article/birding-with-hasselblad/https://www.hasselblad.com/inspiration/stories/the-very-first-hasselblad-1600f/Victor Hasselblad designed his cameras for bird photography.Today's wildlife photographers are a bunch of ninnies.
My GRIIIX just came in today. I'm impressed by it. My other camera is a GFX 50R.I really enjoy that I don't look like or feel like I'm taking photos.
I got a grIIIx after not owning a camera for a long time and I love it. I find the focal length great 90% of the time, sometimes it’s a smidge too tight. It has its quirks that take some time to figure out, but the menus and button customization makes perfect sense, and snap focus is so unbelievably genius that I’m surprised it’s not in every camera. Lens is sharp. Moderate vignetting, extremely mild distortion, both easily corrected. Having DNGs as raw files is nice. The wireless transfer phone app also just works. Battery life isn’t fantastic, but if you’re just shooting it’s not really a problem, menus and reviewing photos will kill the battery really fast. I’ve spammed hundreds of pictures on a battery charge no issue.The autofocus is by far the weakest aspect. In low light it can’t focus for shit sometimes.
>>4465650Yes, surprising how well it does considering it's size.
>>4465650The GRIII/X is the only crop sensor camera that's not a total scam, but the GRIV is just sad>That price hike and still no felt seals on the lens
>>4465722I bought my griiix the day the griv was announced after seeing the price and the fact they didn't improve anything worthwhile on it.
>>4465751New sensor, new lens, new processor, 5- instead of 3 axis stabilization, new hybrid AF, new screen, more internal memory, better sealing on lens, smaller size, larger battery. That's an upgrade in my book. A tilt screen wouldn't have hurt through.
yesterday i stopped by B&H and asked the nice (and milfy) asian lady on the 3rd floor who tends to the Ricoh and Fuji cameras and she said the GR IV's were not available yet.
why not just buy an iphone?it's the same exact money, but with phone
>>4467386Can't beat the physics. Iphone sensor is still tiny, much smaller than the GR. But yeah, with each generation it gets closer. High megapixels, lots of digital improvement of image quality. Plus already 4k video.
>>4467386>no shutter button >no hot shoe>no strap lugs>forced to use ios>can't simply put in a fresh battery when you run out of power>garbage ergosi don't understand these 'just buy a phone' people. do they just not take photos?
>>4467389why write so much silly cope
>>4464176Hey, that awkward guy taking nudes of Minnesotan women has a good racket going, don’t be a hater. >>4464233Not wrong - does anyone actually care about any type of photography anymore? Seems like all the energy is in video for instaTok type shit
>>4467389you can take a composed photo without flash attachments by learning to use the camera
>>4464170>it’s the most pure form of the craftWhat does this mean? By selecting a singular subject it is no longer pure, it is instead colored by a subjective ideal. Though claiming anything you would consider an artform as having a purest form is retarded.
>>4467386Shit lens, shit sensor. Smartphones take multiple photos at varying exposures and focal lengths, stitch them together, run a JPEG preset on them and use AI to fill in the last gaps. This allows you to take technically good photos with HDR, that are completely in focus, perfect for landscapes, but robs you of image quality and creative possibilities regarding selective exposure, focus and DoF.Cameras going back all the way to 2015 have such features too, but they are not what you get a dedicated camera for.
>>4467386>>4467481I just posted this photo to post a photo but I think it's relevant the mention that it was taken by a 2011 hobbyist camera.
>>4467386using a phone is boring as fuck, simple as
>>4467481>>4467482even samsung can shoot RAW now and iphones could for years
>>4467386oh boy you're gosh darn right, I can't wait for all the amazing birds I'll now be able to capture
>>4467386Why would you buy an iphone?If your gonna be a phone fag get a pixel
>>4467595Shooting RAW is not enough to overcome the quad bayer bullshit. Fundamentally, phone sensors stand no chance once you realise your colour accuracy and edge contrast are fucked from the beginning.
>>4467386there is no phone that can take a photo like this >>4465650except MAYBE the vivo x200 ultra but then you have to deal with chink software UI
>>4464297>For historical perspective - the size of a leica has never changedThe M240 was thiiiicc
>>4468027agreed
>>4468033lol
What would be a good alternative to the GR III if I desire a focal length somewhere between 30 and 35mm?Preferably closer to 35mm.
>>4468043there are no good alternatives. hence the sky-high price. some medium to bad alternatives depending on what about the griii it is that entices you are:fuji x100 sony rx1 seriescanon m6sony a6000 seriescanon v or p rangefindercheapo 35mm film camera ie ilford sprite, kodak m35
>>4468043have a look at Canon's G7XIII>compact; 304g; fits in your pocket>24-100mm equiv. f/1.8-2.8 lens>1.0" CMOS 20.1MP sensor>articulating screen>4-stop IBIS>pop-up flashdownsides>AF is mid>smaller sensor than the GR seriesI mean it seems decent enough for a camera that actually fits in your pocket.
>>4468043>>4468158they're not heaps expensive either compared to the GR series
>>4468043Also, the GRIIIx has a 40mm equiv. lens, if you're deadset on having a GR.
>>4468158
Since we're talking about pocketable cameras. Are there any that have stupid far zoom like the good ol days?Looking for an upgrade to my S22 Ultra that can do 14mm to 230mm.I have an old DSLR with an 18-200mm but fuck carrying that everywhere.
>>4464286>*applies preset*AAAAAAAND its gone
>>4464920This is a image from a Sony Experia.
>>4468225>I have an old DSLR with an 18-200mm but fuck carrying that everywhere.Are you some sort of girl or something?!
>>4468235girls carry handbags, men don't.
>>4468236That's right men carry 2kg cameras.
>>4468236>girls carry handbagsNo, what they carry is the knowledge that they are an imperfect being who'll never be able to compare to a japanese jpeg
>>4468225yesthe SX740
>>4468351Looks like dogshit compared to any phone.>b-but muh processingYou can turn it off easily on Samsung phones.
>>4468357>You can turn it off easily on Samsung phones.No, a lot of it is baked in sadly, same as with newer cameras, they all have post processing these days.Most of the sensor "advances" are software, almost no-one is spending money on innovating sensors beyond extracting data faster (For higher resolution and higher FPS video).
>>4468107>>4468158>>4468159It does seem like the Canon G7X III could be the one for me. The zoom range is a great bonus.>>446816240mm is way too much for what I'm intending.30mm to 35mm is what subjectively seems to come very close to the geometry of how "i remember things to be shaped like."Which is what I'm aiming for.>>4468172>>4468174Thanks for these.The Canon seems to have the least pronounced tint of green to my eyes. (My eyes)Thanks for all the suggestions.
>>4468402I just looked at the G5 X II because I searched up alternatives to the G7 X III with viewfinders and it sounds kinda based>pop-up EVF>extra 20mm of optical zoom (24-100mm vs 24-120mm)downside is it doesn’t have a 3.5mm auxiliary jack but I didn’t want to get one for video anywaythe pop-up viewfinder puts this above the GR series for meand it still fits in my pocketseems like the Sony RX100V is very comparable on paper to the G5XII, and the LUMIX LX100II is similar but distinctly different with its M43 sensor, Leica lens and fixed EVF.I don’t know why everyone is banging on about the GR series so much, it’s far less versatile than some of this other stuff from a few years ago now… must be the hype train
>>4468454>everyone is banging on about the GR series– IBIS– Relatively good resolution– Photo modes for zoomers– Sensor is quite bigger
>>4468454I had the g5x and the griii. Usability wise the griii wins by length. I made a statistic for my focal length usage of the Canon - Most were on the wide Angle, around 30% full zoom and just very little in-between. I'd choose the Ricoh anytime over the others. It is a very specific tool, but it does that very well
>>4464164>Nothing compares to this little guy.Imagine of it had weather sealing and better quality control. Also 28mm is retarded either go 24mm or 35mm.Anyway.>Any other shooters feel the same?Yes, the Nikon DL 18-50 f/1.8-2.8Before you get enthusiastic, it got cancelled...
>>4468225Sony RX100 VI or VIIGet the grip too
>>4464164>Nothing compares to this little guyWhat about a Hassy X2D with 25mm XCD lens :3
>>4468588it doesn't fit in a regular pants pocketdifferent league
>>4464164Heh... Nothing personelll... kid..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r-tI93GZBk
>>4468622Don't put it in your pocket, sir. Don't put it in your pocket. It's your lucky camera!Jokes aside it's not weather sealed so all the dust and lint will rub into it.
>>4464902>Barely fitting in a jeans pocket if you're fat, leaving zero room for your phone and wallet? Dios mio.>pockets that aren't roomy>only having one pocketTits or GTFO.
>>4464164The GR3 is already quite expensive. And then there's the price of the GR4...
>>4468729compared to the GR2 the price of GR3 is insaneand for what, a few megapixels more and IS? the megapixels WOULD sound enticing if low light performance weren't worse than a 1 inch Sony sensor, given that it's a HUGE sensorwhich reminds me...speaking of low light, >>4464164 Nikon Df (smallest full frame digital SLR) and Zf (mirrorless that looks like the bastard child of the Df and a Sony) are also options: weather sealed, excellent high iso without any noise, it's a nikon so you could probably grab a photo before it runs away...or if you are an autist, a Sigma fp L (61 megapoxels but slow readout) or a Sigma BF (brand new out of the oven)... both are weather sealed bodies
>>4468691>Nuremberg, Germany Don't ask me how I know.
>>4468719>no weather sealingdios mio and the GRIV will cost $2000?>>4468742yeahI don’t think the Df will fit in my pocketI could be wrong thoughmaybe a few alterations are in order… O seamstress!!!!
>>4468765>I don’t think the Df will fit in my pocketthe kit lens is tiny as heck though, would fit in cargo pantsa pity they didn't make it with swappable prism
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>>4468773this looks incredibly basedan f/2.8 45mm kit lens? on a DSLR that doesn’t look like a shitty blob?too bad they start at AU$1k useddo cameras actually hold their value or is everyone inflating their prices?
>>4468742while pic rel is a nice surprise, unfortunately the Zf does not have the peanutwhat were they thinking :<
>>4468775Df is considered the epitome of Nikon SLR's so it will probably hold its valueI mean if Fujifilm X100's hold their value like they do, everything is possible (not necessarily in the good way, see Contax T2 and Yashica T4's)
>>4468777quite insane that mechanical focus with a lens having decent gearing (like 105mm and below) outperform even current day canon ultrasonic lensultra my ass
I remarked a suspicious lack of Canonlets on this forumBut I guess they are all in the studio sucking dick lol
>>4468773i like how Nikon insists on "silver" color and stuff but it's still closer to their 2000s "champagne" trademark color we all love... stupid idiots <3
Fuji should release a new XF10 or X70. My XF10 has 2 main issues now, getting the parts replaced is worth almost the same as when I bought it new. Used prices are also heavily inflated. But getting a GR3 for around $1000 is also inflated, when these pocket compacts seem to have durability issues compared to a small MILC.
>>4468828>japanese camera company should do what people wantwwwwwww >w<one shutterress vrogging camera coming up gaijin.
Preordered the GRIV because I thought it is nice to have something THAT compact to bring everywhere and always. The next bigger camera I have is the Leica Q1 with the same focal length but full frame and probably better in every way. It's compact but not to the point that I can just throw it in my pants be done. I always have to bring a small bag at least. But the more reviews I look at the more I feel it's not worth it. I was looking for those new cinema presets but they look rather shit to be honest. Reminds me of the very old instagram filter to make something look "retro". Should I still give it a try or just cancel the order?
>>4469112I'm wondering the same myself. I was trying to pick between it and the Sony RX100VII, now I'm wondering if I should've picked the Sony since the Ricoh has the fixed prime (though a largr sensor).Maybe depends on your usecase then? I want to cover a range of focal lengths and got taken in by the Ricoh's sensor.
>>4469115>I was trying to pick between it and the Sony RX100VIII can't consider the GR series since they don't have viewfinders...
GRIV units having jammed lens and erratic front top dial issues are surfacing.
>>4469788Imagine buying an expensive compact just to be a beta tester.
>>4469112Cancel it and just get a griii instead. There are no significant improvements to justify the price hike.
