Where do you hire models these days? It used to be that you could just go on modelmayhem but that shit's been dead for years. Presumably there's hoes on instagram or whatever, but you can't even search using # anymore, so that's no good either. So what's the scoop?
supply/demand in actionphotos of women are passe now that the mask is off, or should i say, everyone knows the mask is on
>>4468302"""models""" figured out they can make more money on OF
Models been fell off, every woman thinks they can make it big with OnlyFans. And if you're a dude, forget it. GWCs killed that off too. All women are content creators now. May as well forget it, if you're just trying to see some boobs go to a strip club and cut out all the bullshit of trying to arrange meetups that will never happen or at the last minute something will come up and they have to reschedule.It's 2025 you have to pay to play now. I've had luck because of previous work I did before the world went to shit so I have some regular action still, back when women were approachable. These days, forget it. Try your luck at a public drawing thing where women come to bars and shit and people draw them, I don't know what they're actually called but I've had some luck with that. If you're not already established, go shoot something else. You can try friends, if you have any who are attractive and female. IF you want to shoot models, you have to bring something to the table other than "naked/lingerie woman in the woods" every single dude has that in their body of work, even me.
>>4468302artistic nudity is so fucking retardedespecially in photography>she's hecking nakerinothey just stand their """""""modeling""""""""
>>4468326it was great when men still felt they had a purpose, and that this was an ideal, a godly purity, the natural archetype of womannow we all know it's all makeup artists and retouching and it has no appeal, plus statue-esque women shot glamour or fine art style are associated with divorce and predatory use of alimony and the family divorce lawyer so the average young man goes gaga for a slightly chunky slavic girl with glasses and visible pores shot on an iphone instead
The issue is on the image viewing side. People want to see photos the girls took of themself, not a photo another guy took of them. Every OF model would hire photogs if that sold more. This is an unrecoverable situation for photography. Eventually maybe people will get sick of self shot content but it’s probably along way away or may never happen. I shot nudes before and after and it’s nothing alike now, 95% less models looking to shoot and a big drop in quality too. There just isn’t really anyway but finding the local models on Insta and browsing the ppl they follow to find more local models, really bad because you will miss travelling models and it takes ages to find local models. Also everyday the model supply decreases even further.
>>4468302The only viable option at this point for models is using your wife or girlfriend as the model but then you're probably not going to want to do artistic nudityJust resign yourself to doing regular portraiture
Unless you want to do naked models, aren't cosplayers good option? I'm pretty sure that there are lots of amateur or starting ones that would gladly pose as long as they won't have to pay for it. Sure, they won't be experienced yet but you could always guide them. Or my idea is wrong?
>>4468302Whatever escort/whore mongering site that's active where you live. Keyword search for photography or recording. Only click on ads that already have face pics.
>>4468328It is honestly sad/funny how little professional nude photography turns me on, even really horny stuff like Dubnitsky. But yeah, self shot cute chick on a grainy cellphone photo is just hotter. Real photography of naked women feels too much like a product. >>4468359Not wrong. It’s too bad, too, the only part about OF that would’ve been kinda cool was if you could get gigs running the camera for them. >>4468448Yeah, this is the move. Unless you’re that desperate to see tits, cosplay chicks or photo shoots for normie sfw influencers gets you a social in with cute girls, and actually might lead to paid work down the road.
>>4468302>can’t find models thread>it’s actually a can’t find *free nude* models thread Skill issue
>>4468452escorts, in this economy?
>>4468529Were free nude models ever around? Whole thing sounds fake + gey
>>4468535Yes. I shot a girl who was trying to get into black tape project and she spontaneously did topless shots during our shoot (her idea). I didn’t pay her although we did split the cost of the hotel room we shot in.I also did nude shots of a girl who wanted them for her premium Snapchat and didn’t pay her.
>>4468535Yes, you adorable Zoomer. On ModelMayhem, mentioned by the OP for example, you could literally just message a girl to see if she wanted to collaborate. No money would be exchanged, it was all done on an honor system basically.
>>4468473>Real photography of naked women feels too much like a productbecause it is a product
>>4468549Yeah, I know it’s a product lmao. That’s the point of the post - it feels too much like a product to be horny about it, where shitty amateur pics feel like something a girl would’ve sent me in college. >>4468548Huh, wild. Didn’t know what I was missing out on until now, damn
>>4468535They still are if you already have the portfolio they're looking for.I have never once paid for a nude model, ever. On nudes, this current generation of guys just wanting to see tits, the model being nude has to add something to the image that cannot be replicated if she were clothed, so all these guys shooting naked women in the woods or in bedrooms "boudoir" are all horny GWCs just trying to have spankbank material for later.>>4468452this is also a very good way to find models because they're already expecting to get naked and most of them will gladly do it especially if they don't have to put out later. Did it once.>>4468531Skill issue.>>4468548Those were the days, before OF convinced every woman with a vagina they could make it big by selling pictures of themselves taken with their phone.
COOMERS BTFO
You don't have a problem that money can't fix
Unironically tinderOf course i fuck them and if they are good at sex and enjoy having photos taken i date them.
>>4468321>something to the table other thanin other words, money. TFP and free shoots are dead, long have been dead.
>>4468321>>4469594It's only dead for you guys because you don't bother to look. There are endless amount of opportunities for TFP and free shoots in general at least if you're here in NY. I imagine it's the same in other big cities. Yes the downside of course is the models can be flaky but if you advertise for free digitals you'll get your foot in the door and the rest will follow. Plenty of social media groups floating around where models seek this if you know where to look.
>>4469086Does your profile say that you're a photographer looking for models or what? I've had plenty of luck dating/hooking up with chicks off Tinder, but I can't imagine finding models on there.
>>4469707Nothing like that. a few of my pictures looked kinda “well shot” so when i mention i take photos they are like, yeah i can tell thats coolBut no i just ask if they are comfortable letting me take pictures, start safe for work just a nice portrait when they aren’t looking so they dont overthink and do a dumb face, then show them and wow that’s so nice literally amazing thanks babe can i take pictures of your tits nowUsually its a yeahSometimes its a yea but they may never see the light of day which is ok with me because its still fun and it’s practice.
>>4469717Ok, so it's more in the context of a date/hookup then?I've pretty much only shot nudes of people I was dating/sleeping with thus far.
>>4468448Cosplayers can be strange experience. From what I dealt with, they either never shower or just never wash their costumes. I did a few photos for a girl and her friend and when she opened her bag to get the rest of the costume on, I had to step back so I wouldn't make any gag sounds in front of her. >>4468951>naked women in the woodsI see this constantly and know a guy that does it. His entire folio is just that same forest with different women and there's nothing that interesting about any of it, no special poses or making any use of the location at all.
>>4469961Man knows what he likes and he sticks to it, I can respect it
>>4469961>From what I dealt with, they either never shower or just never wash their costumes.What the fuck.
>>4469936Yeah exactly. but idk if im just banging whores or if women like cameras cos its always a yeah sure photograph me
>>4469961>From what I dealt with, they either never shower or just never wash their costumesyou are just making my pp harder anon
>>4469961> they either never shower or just never wash their costumes. This reminds me, a coworker of mine was telling me a little while back that his girlfriend texted him while he was at work, and asked him to pick up deodorant on his way home. He said that he thought to himself "I wonder what reminded her that we were out of deodorant at this point in her day? Oh right, she's at Comicon right now, that makes sense."
>>4469961>cute cosplayers that never showerholy based
>>4468302
a guy asking you to come to his "studio" for "photos" is like the oldest cliche for getting murderraped as a women.Take photos of ugly guys, it's way harder and you will build skills. Get gud. Make some deal where you do most photos the way they want it (for them) and then do a few photos the way you want them (for your portfolio).
>>4473452The workaround is to tell them to bring their boyfriend / my girlfriend will be there etc. rapists always work alone.t. full nude shoot in two weeks
Life hack : get a beautiful gf so you have an always available free model
>>4473452pro tip when you work with guys: you can murderrape them after the shoot, too.
