I am going to buy one as soon as they hit the market in early Novemeber. I hope I get the 1987 edition. It's fire. Which one are you hoping to score?You are going to be getting one right /p/?You aren't gonna be a contrarian try hard no Charmera /p/haggot are you /p/? ISHYDDT
the whatnow?
>>4470128I bet you buy 7 of these and 4 of them are that gray onealso>No IBIS
>>4470128Yes. I was considering it. The blue one or the clear one is pretty cool. A modern digishitter may be pretty fun. It's actually difficult to find old digishits with such low MP.
>>4470128I'll wait until one shows up at the thrift store.Which is where I get all my cameras from.
>>4470131>. It's actually difficult to find old digishits with such low MPAgreed. The price is right too for a new snapshitter. Most of the old ones are busted/will be busted soon.I had an old Fuji that was 3.1mp that was fun. Sold it when old snapshitters went up in price. Wished I hadn't sometimes. Saw one in a 2nd hand store recently for cheap. Bought it and found the sensor was cooked.Few days later I saw an article about the Charmeras and decided to get one. They won't be actual vintage aesthetic but at least it will function correctly.
>>4470135You'll be waiting a long time. Charmeras are gonna be big. Collecting them will likely be a thing.
Good luck, they sold out within 8 minutes.Cruise eBay I'm sure a bunch were bought up by flippers and scalpers.
>>4470128I wasn’t keen until I saw it’s a keychain, that sold me.
>>4470137I'm in no rush. I'm not chasing trends.And if I need a tiny digishitter, I got my U20 in the meantime.
>>4470138That was just the presale to build hype. BHPhoto says they'll have them in stock sometime in November. Kodak needs to get their name out their for sales and pump profits. Doubtful the company won't be flush with stock heading into the holidays. These are gonna be a hit for stocking stuffers. Kodak is probably making a killing on them. Profit margin on a Charmera has got to be huge with an msrp of $30. Having them produced can't cost more than a few bucks.
>>4470141What's the pink one?
>>4470145Shitty kids camera that started turning up a few years ago. They've since evolved to include thermal printers, and more polished versions are available at Target and such now.Look up "kids camera" on your favorite China shopping site.
THEY DO ANYTHING BUT BRINGING KODACHROME BACK
>>4470152Film is dead. Let it go.
>>4470152Film is alive. Continue asking kodak to bring it back.
>>4470154>>4470155The duality of filman
>>4470152bro just get a z50ii and install a picture control preset with the exact color timing
>>4470155based>>4470154>>4470157fuck off retard
>>4470158Seethe filmlette.
>>4470158>The manchild can't let go of his nostalgia toysFilm is gone homie. It exists soley because of hollywood and one day your freezer-stored collection will run dry
>>4470158Film is here friend. Kodak, ilford, and other companies will continue making film in all sorts of formats. We will see a film resurgence!
>>4470131>It's actually difficult to find old digishits with such low MP.why not photoshop resize to 10% then resize back to 100%? same as shooting low MP
>>4470145kid's toy. my son has a based dino-themed one. it's pretty fun to shoot those. they lack a flash but I guess you shouldn't give a flash to 4yolds
>>4470189When most people goon over low MP what they normally mean is they want a CCD that caps out at ISO 1600. Also, resizing down then up can be extra destructive if you don't use the right methods.
>>4470189I would rather not use photoshop. I don't think it would have the same look as this either lol.
>>4470128totally the opaque one and park my bicyckle on grass
With all the nostalgia stuff going on these days I have to wonder if anyone will ever be nostalgic for anything in our current era.
>>4470287Depends what the future has to offer.
>>4470128OH NO NO NO NOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-SCkC74_VE
>>4470323Image quality looks like something you'd get from a 2004 budget phone.
>>4470323is this a fucking joke?
>>4470327It is. They could have made something that was actually usable, but this is just a shameless cash grab trying to capitalize on the nostalgia/digicam craze. It is e-waste from the get go.
>>4470328by OP's pic I had assumed they were the size of a classic 35mm point'n'shoot - maybe a little smaller. but fuck me - they really took that chink toy camera from above and put it in a kodak branded plastic case. it's literally the same. i even recognize the "filters/effects" from my kid's toy camera. this is a fucking webcam.
>>4470338It's what the people want.
>>4470338nah the chink toy camera its closer to 3MP so it give better and sharper images lmao.It also comes with games like tetris!
Just get the Camp snap camera instead
>>4470342>just get a huge coolie brick with a high resolution sensor and no rear view screen for more than twice the costNah. I'll stick with the affordable tiny charm sized low rez full featured snapshitter that can hang from my keychain. Thanks anyway.
>>4470323What an annoying bastard to listen to
>>4470340>gearfagging over toy cameraskek
>>4470323This just seems like more garbage to pollute the Earth with. What a waste.
Let me guess, you need more?
>>4470130KEK
>>4470128>I am going to buy oneHow about you buy an ad?
>>4470435WHAT ARE THOSE
>>4470128The marketing and design team did a great job. It's also well priced, not in the sense that recycled plastic with a 2005 flip phone camera is a good deal, but in the sense that people don't mind $29. I actually might pick one up for the pixel filters because the photos look like they were made with the photocopy degradation technique.
>>4470451Forgot to add that it sucks absolute fucking ass that it has no internal memory.
>>4470338>took that chink toy camera from above and put it in a kodak branded plastic case.AND, they blind-boxed the things with one "rare" design
>>4470440The Man Hole. I mean, the Manual Holo, a made in U.S.A. cameras built on american exceptionalism.- 50MP resolution- Photo & video capture- 16x digital zoom- Anti-shake technology- USB-C charging- Micro SD Card Slot- Includes SD card reader for phone/laptop transferThank you for your attention to this matter.
>>4470794>The camera’s built-in flash is an LED, rather than a xenon flash. Fucking dropped
>>4470128Buy an ad
>>4470794>50MPX doubtProbably just some dumb interpolation algorithm
>>4470794looks like literal SHIT with a sense stuck on it
>>4470813Pleas understand anon, the extra five cents per unit would have made it untenable
>>4470866Is that thing sporting an M43 sensor? Whaow!
>>4470128I just think they're neat>>4470323>>4470376I like my e-m5 mk II, but man is he hideous and talks like he's held at gunpoint.
>>4470794>>4470813>The camera’s built-in flash is an LED, rather than a xenon flash.Shameful. They had one job.
>>4470858>>4470437No. I don't think I will. I'm gonna buy a Charmera instead.>>4470866>Kodak Yellow 1987 EditionOh man. That's the one I want.FUUUUUUUUK. I hope I don't have to buy more than one to get it. Thinking about buying the six pack just to be sure I get one. Could easily scalp the rest to cover the cost I bet.
>>4470152Shoot Ektar at 50 and E6 that shit nigger.
>>4471135it's just not the same. sigh...
>>4470376INSULT MASTER WONG AND MEET SWIFT DEATH, PIG
I caved to the hype and bought three. Only received one for now.
>>4470128>cheap chinkoid e-wasteNo wonder you fags are drooling over it.
>>4470128I've had one on backorder for a couple months, wish it would fucking get here. Don't care which one it is, either.
>>4480568I keep checking BHphoto to see if charmeras are in stock. They still aren't. By the time Kodak gets off it's lazy ass and ships products the hype will be past. Kodak blew it. They shoild have gotten product ready to ship before rolling out media hype.
The chinks have already cloned it and for cheaper, saw picrel at Best Buy. The physical design is different sure but the specs sound more or less the same, and it’s only like 17usd lol. >inb4 but the physical appearance is part of it
>>4481637Wooops
>>4470152Kodachrome legitimately sucked ass compared to E6 offerings.t. oldfag that actually shot Kodachrome
>>4481644>Kodachrome legitimately sucked ass compared to E6 offerings.Sacrilege heathen!
>>4481637>inb4 but the physical appearance is part of itIt really is.
>>4470323I can't listen to that guy for more than a minute, tops. I wonder if he always talks in this extremely retarded way or if he fakes it for his channel.
>>4481684So this is a fashion accessory that happens to take shit photos. Very woman like, fitting.
>>4481637>>4481638>no viewfinder
>>4481694Most of the people buying it already have a camera, give it a rest.
>>4481638Hah I saw these on sale at Best Buy for $15 CAD last week. These Vivitars are much worse than the Charmera, sadly. The native resolution on the Vivitar is 320x240, upscaled to 14MP. At least the Charmera has an honest resolution of 1.6MP (1440x1080).
>November 15th>Still no Charmeras in stock anywhereLife is suffering.
>>4483204The ones I bought early October are in the customs ; I should receive them by the end of the month.
$30 at my local Rockbrook Camera got me a red Charmera. Thing is a handwarmer. 5 minutes is 500 megs of 35mm fov video. Key chain blasts out the audio. Fun little toy.
>>4483204>Life is true art
>>4484503Finally received them, yay.
im not buying something called a charmera
>>4485196>Charmera >:(>Kamera, Japan :O
>>4470152That's a different Kodak. Eastman Kodak makes the film and sells Kodacolor and the motion picture filmKodak Alaris sells the rest of the consumer filmKodak Reto, is someone who bought the rights to call themselves Kodak and sells their cameras, like the Chamera or the H35. This shit is because Eastman Kodak went insolvent in the 2000s and had to sell everything off that wasn't essential.
So what's the ultimate verdict on these things? They're not at all rare i my city and I could get one tomorrow, but I'm not sure if it's actually worth it. The digishit look is what I want but I wonder if it's overpriced for what it is or if the filters look like shit. I can't find many sample images online, though that's to be expected since it's for fun and not serious.
>>4485440Honestly I was really considering getting one of these, but from the samples I've seen, the pictures have a really smoothed-out look, not the harsh and grainy early CMOS look. I like the built-in threshold filters, but the normal pics aren't proper digishit, at least for me.
>>4485539I still might consider one, if only because actual digishit cameras are now hideously overpriced because of social media.
>>4485440The filters indeed look like shit but the overall look of the images is appealing, I think, and, for a camera that you can attach to your keyring, it’s pretty cool (and cheap).
I pre-ordered these a couple months ago and it came in the other day. I like how small it is I can keep it clipped on my necklace and whenever I want to take a picture I just whip it out. I've got a Samsung phone and I can directly transfer the photos from the camera to my phone. The quality is as you would expect, my only gripe with it is that as soon as you turn on it goes into the mode menu so you have to click the shutter twice or the play button first to select to take a picture. Post a couple snapshits around the house that I took
I should say with a USB C to USB C cable
I don't know how often I'll use the filters but it's cool I guess
>>4485641>I've got a Samsung phone and I can directly transfer the photos from the camera to my phone.How?
>>4485641>>4485642>>4485643>>4485644Not bad at all! If these were sold in leafland for less than 50 leafbucks I'd get one. Nobody sells em yet though.
>>4470128Buy a cheap phone, you'll get shit results then
>>4485691USBc to USBc cable
Night photos looks terrible o this camera
>>4486865... and they look alright on daylight. I asbolutely LOVE the form factor
>>4486865it’s impressionisticrealism is not the highest ideal
>>4486865looks like the graphic the intro text plays over in a 90s videogame
>>4486865That is phenomenally shit, especially for a digishit. These things are supposed to have a lot of harsh sharpening to make lights and silhouettes pop, otherwise it just looks bad and blurry. That thing is way too uniform.>1 ⁄ 4 inch CMOSWhat were they thinking. Why the hell wouldn't they put a CCD in that.
The quality is abysmal, hahaha
But it looks ok for portraits, so maybe there's hope.
>>4470128BHPHOTO HAS CHARMERAS IN STOCK!!!>BHPHOTO HAS CHARMERAS IN STOCK!!!BHPHOTO HAS CHARMERAS IN STOCK!!!>BHPHOTO HAS CHARMERAS IN STOCK!!!BHPHOTO HAS CHARMERAS IN STOCK!!!>BHPHOTO HAS CHARMERAS IN STOCK!!!BHPHOTO HAS CHARMERAS IN STOCK!!!
>>4487493Damn, weren't these supposed to be $30?
damn the photo quality really sucks ass
>>4487469The fuck is the filter they slapped on this. It doesn't even look like sharpening, it looks like it straight up has outlines and posterization.
I really wanted one of these but now I'm glad I didn't get one. Thank you anons.
>>4486874Nobody makes consumer CCDs anymore I think. Sony was the last company making them and they stopped those operations a while ago.
There are newly released imitations of the Charmera sold on Aliexpress called "thumb camera". Cost a little less and I reckon these have a better sensor than the real thing. Anybody ever tried these?
>>4487540Yah. I almost bought one from BH when I saw that post. Had it in the cart, did a double take on the price and noped the fuck out. Total cost was nearly $50 with shipping and tax plus tip. That's retarded. You can get a decent retro canon snapshiter that takes decent photos, has manual controls, has a telephoto lens and can run CHDK. Charmera photos in reviews and this thread demonstrate the camera is nearly worthless. Even at $20 the value is in owning a cuite toy, not the camera's ability to capture photos. Unbelievable scalpers are getting $80+ on fleabay for these things.
>>4487570Thanks for the tip. I just bought one from Ali's cuck press for tree fiddy, shipping included. I'll post some pictures when it gets here.
>>4487570Just ordered one for $20 dollarydoos. If it's shit it just becomes a cheap decoration piece which I'm honestly fine with
I bought a six-pack to give to my family for Christmas. I'm keen. I'm debating whether I should give one to my Mum though because, on the one hand, she's going overseas next year but, on the other hand, she's utterly retarded with technology and she may not use it or find it awkward. She's also at that stage where she's basically blind to anything two feet in front of her face so I doubt she'd enjoy the experience of using it. I want to give one to my cousin instead. She's also going overseas and she's not a tech-illiterate boomer either but I would hate to make the rest of my extended family feel left out or whatever.
>>4487751>>4487763The listing on Aliexpress claims it has autofocus. I think that is a lie but in case it does, I am intrigued to hear how well it works, since the real Charmera is fixed focus.
>>4487990tell me more about your mother
>>4470128i got the lil red nigga
So I ordered and received the 2nd cheapest Thumb Camera (transparent version) from ChinkExpress for less than 15€. (The cheapest one is a toy with no photo capability if one actually reads the description.) Walked the dog in +5C drizzle and snapped some snaps.As expected it's shit. My specimen does not connect to W11 computer via USB. By device manager because "The USB set address request failed" Code 43 whatever it means. From quality of photos and behaviour it looks like it has genes of a budget dashcam. Dunno how to disable the timestamp or set time.It's tiny lightweight and cheap and while image quality is shit, low light performance appears not bad.
>>4489271I saw a comparison and people online were basically saying this G6 from chingchongpress had slightly better photo quality over the Chamera.This looks like hot, hot ass and is so heavily sharpened I'm sure the halos are counted to up the marketing resolution.
>>4489271The datestamp is set and enabled/disabled by connecting it to your computer and modifying the .txt file in the camera's root folder.Though yours isn't connecting. Maybe try another cable and Windows 10?
>>4489298To me looks like cheap dashcam where bringing out detail like license plates is important and aesthetic is not. >>4489300I already tried different cables. Now checked it's same with win10 laptop. (Charges fine via usb and goes to PC mode if its PC and does not if charger but Win 10/11 does not recognize it.I'll msg the seller before attempting to find and fix a bad solder joint. Smds got too tiny for me more than a decade ago.)(A snap with different levels of darkness.)
>>4489271VHS aesthetics
>>4489351>>4486865At night shots the thumb camera does pull far ahead compared to the Charmera. Charmera looks like there was butter smeared over the lens.
>>4489412>VHSIt looks nothing like it.
I am >>4487763. Bought a G6 for $20 aud. Came the other day and had a bit of time to get an inital impression.>>4487992>The listing on Aliexpress claims it has autofocus.I have seen nothing to indicate there is any focusing happening at all. It is absolutely fixed-focus with a MFD of about 25cm>>4489271The USB connection on mine works fine. Can even use it as a webcam while attached to a PC with minimal fuss.>>4489300I see nothing of the sort. There's a menu item in the camera to enable or disable the date stamp though.>>4489412No. It looks like a dashcam from 2009. Far too oversharpened to be mistaken for VHS.>>4489417Funny because it already looks like liquid ass at night so if the Chamera is worse I'd say dont even bother outside of good light.Anyway,It's a 3MP 16:9 ratio, 1080p video dashcam sensor with no manual controls, an e-shutter, a bunch of mostly gay and a couple useful filters, with strong sharpening and the only way to adjust exposure is burried in the menu via an EV setting (which is still nice to have but fuck me I wish it were a button).For $20? Fuck it, it's neat it its own way. I've spent more money on far more useless shit. If I switch it to use the B&W filter the chroma noise is gone and I can tolerate the look for random snapshits.Just buy one for the shits and gigs.
>>4470128I got one for Christmas! B&W mode is definitely my fav so far. Thinking of how I might mod it to boot up in B&W...
The tonality is basically posterized but, like, does anyone expect the picture quality to be good? or the dynamic range to be massive?
I think if you want one, get one. What do you have to lose for $30?
Why is Michael Douglas so hot?
The sepia tone is pretty cool too.
fin
moar
I should have known better, but I'm really disappointed by the image quality, this horrible sharpening effect is a big turn-off.
this camera has a based 4:3 aspect ratio. I approve.
>>4491065there’s gotta be a way to flash some CFW on this thing
>>4489942Shit do you guys see this guy!! This guys KNOWS what REAL VHS looks like. That's so freakin awesome. He must have actually been there for VHS too. I wish I could be him.
>>4491082anon ain't wrong, though. "Digital-shitty" wasn't what VHS looked like.
The sharpening kills it. Same with the G6. There's nothing nice about it. I'd much prefer zero sharpening and it would be much nicer.
I'm glad those of you who like it are enjoying it, but I'm even more glad this thread prevented me from paying $40(!) on it when B&H sent me the pre-order link. ty anons.
Saw a cute teddy bear.
>>4491429Looks like total phoneslopPd: first shit/p/ost of the year
I like it. It's convenient and easy to use!
fin?
looks like shit to me but i guess that the trend now
These look very overly upscaled
>>4490993NSW?
>>4491602Exactly my thinking. Although in this case I think it is just a combination of a shit lens with aggressive NR and fake HDR effects + over-sharpening.Picrel, taken on my mini "pen" camera from year 2000. Saves pics in uncompressed .bmp in QVGA resolution. If the Charmera could take photos like this but in 1440x1080, I'd buy it.
>>4491604you must be a local if you can clock this specific KFC lol
Am I the only /p/oster using one of these things? They're literally an excuse to take unlimited snapshits.
I haven't even fathomed yet its full potential.
>>449177550AUD feels pretty steep for one, so I'm not sure about getting it just yet. I'd go get some real digishit camera from the early 2000s if I could but those have issues like weird cable ports, NLA batteries or rare memory card types.
The image quality rivals the best cameras Pentax has to offer
the blue filter is a puzzle.>>4491786I'm hoping someone tries to compete with "Kodak" for sales in this space because, yeah, it's pretty garbage. at the very least, I hope "Kodak" don't give up at mark one.>>4491787shitposting is an art of which you are entirely ignorant.
indeed it is a puzzle that does not yield easily to pleasant results. I'll probably use the black-and-white filter instead of the blue henceforth.
>>4491789>I'm hoping someone tries to compete with "Kodak" for sales in this space because, yeah, it's pretty garbage. at the very least, I hope "Kodak" don't give up at mark one.Same. But the general feeling most people have is that it looks more akin to a late 2000s or early 2010s webcam rather than an early 00s digital camera, which I'm inclined to agree with.
>>4491797Which was obviously cheaper for them (to recycle old dashcam or webcam sensors and house them) and made it more palatable as a business-level decision.But if this thing dies in the water and doesn't have a second edition that will be why; the fact the photos do not in fact look retro and just look cheap.
>>4491797>>4491802Sensor modules usually have some degree of tune-ability in the firmware from the OEM (Sony, Omnivision, etc.) that allows the manufacturer of the Charmera (Retopro) to fine-tune the way the .jpeg is processed. I sincerely doubt they have changed things like the sharpness and noise reduction parameters from the OEM defaults. The Charmera could be a much better product if they spent more time ironing out small details like these.Asia Optical (another manufacturer of Kodak-branded cameras) does a far better job in this respect, their cameras all have the classic "Kodak colour science" look, despite using Sony CMOS modules.
>>4491797I don't really know why anyone would get a Charmera apart from BRAND, you can get real 00s cameras for cheaper than one of these things. You can find Mavicas for literally like $5. You can even find 00s mini keychain cameras for dirt cheap.
OnSemi has many low MP image sensors but there aren't any sample images. Do you think they are all webcam quality?https://www.onsemi.com/products/sensors/image-sensors/ar0246
>>4472013You could never pass a blind test to prove this.
The more I use it, the less I like it. I hope it breaks soon. It's been freezing enough that it might just cark itself anyway.
Damn, glad I didn't jump on the hype train too soon. Where I live, they're pretty expensive compared to MSRP (70-80 USD), so was thinking of waiting until it drops closer to 40-50 when the scalpers had their fun. The initial images I saw on YouTube looked promising, like it'd be a fun little toy to use in random situations.Thanks anon for posting all these. The dashcam aesthetic and the soulless amount of sharpening they applied comes through in most photos.
>>4492770Yeah glad I didn't buy it either. It's available in some stores near me for about $30USD now and I'm not interested at all anymore. I'd rather spend $80 on a real shitty digicam from Goodwill.
>>4492770Have some moar just for being grateful.
This is a Jewish graveyard.
this shit is so garbage I'm half expecting some anon to come in to ask how to disable the rearview lines hud from their charmera
I do not recommend using the viewfinder on this junk. It deceives you; you'll think you're much closer to the subject than you actually are.
I also found you can improve the image quality by using your hand like a lens hood if the sun is facing the camera.
Horse.
The battery is good for at least 120 shots, I'd say.
>grok play the tiktok nostalgia meme music
Between this and an actual digishit I much prefer the experience of using the Charmera. It's much simpler.
Alternate angle.
I think it's the fixed focus that really makes it stupid simple. The autofocus on old digishits can be really slow.
>>4492963There are cheaper fixed focus 'digishits' with far better picture quality – older Kodak and HP cameras come to mind.It's a shame these are so bad as I like the form factor.
>>4492983>cheapernot anymore unless I happen upon one in a thrift store
>>4492986I don't know where you live, but having a quick look at Ebay UK:HP Photosmart 433 3.1mp £12.40.HP Photosmart E317 5.0MP £12.95 plus £2.26 postage.Kodak Digital Camera EasyShare C310 4.0MP £10.80 plus £2.94 Postage.Kodak EASYSHARE CX6200 2.0MP £14.01 or Best Offer.Fujifilm FinePix A Series A202 2.0MP starting bid of £1.16.Packard Bell DSC-220 2.0MP starting bid £3.31.And on it goes. I bet all these have far better image quality.
>>4492988Based. Can you list more? I'm going to search around in my country and we didn't get every camera that some others did in some cases.My only concern usually with old digishit is dead batteries that aren't made anymore.
>>4493064Depends on the case, but many of the batteries were actually compatible, even between brands. So it's not quite that hopeless. Also, there's some decent third party clones, e.g. Duracell makes good ones for some battery types. But yeah, it's a bit of a PITA to do the research of which batteries are actually compatible and have a chance of working well.>>4492988To add to the list, I recently bought a perfectly working Ricoh R50 for ~$20 (10MP CCD).
>>4493064A lot of these things straight up just use AA batteries. But with these old cameras, you can easily convert them to 14500s or something.
>>4492988Australia, it’s a different world. Most of what you recommended is at least as expensive as a Charmera.
>>4493078Fucking sucks. I don't even see shitty cameras in Salvos or Cash Converters anymore either, it's all just DSLRs and mirrorless cameras from the last 10 years now.
>>4493079>I don't even see shitty cameras in Salvos or Cash Converters anymore either.Last time I looked at Cash Converters they had fuck all digicams but a pawn shop nearby was flogging a Lumix for $120 and an Optio for $200? Crazy, I thought, compared to the $5 I dropped on a Cyber-shot at Cash Converters in 2023.
You can buy an APS-C DSLR at these prices; it’s fucked how much the digicam trend has inflated prices.
I did get a digishit recently but, even as small as that is, I can’t put it on my keyring. That was the selling point; that’s why I bought a Charmera.
>>4493082Fucking trends man. My friend gave me a digishit camera he got on gumtree for $2 and I threw it away years ago. I fucked up.
>>4493082I never understood the digicam trend meme. There's nothing it can do beyond using a flash for overexposed gratuitious selfies from bad autofocus and relatively low resolution. I tried it with 2 Fuji EXRs which are relatively decent with 1/2in sensors and the only good thing they had was actual optical zooms but otherwise my phone unironically took better photos. Literally any 15 y/o ILC will be better unless you really want a separate pocketable imaging device. The gap between my older APSC shitters and a $1000+ FF ILC is a hell of a lot smaller than the gap between a APSC ILC from the early 2010s and a digicam and if its the 2010s digicam look you want...just shoot jpeg with the flash on (if its something like 6-16mp the res will be lower) $200 puts you into a Olympus Pen with a kit lens and for all the hate M43 gets on /p/ its still better than what some of these resellers want straight up ripping normies off with cameras that cost in some cases $200 brand new. I personally like the charmera form factor and I'll buy one when I can get it for $20>>4493079Its the same in USA, all the thrift stores list anything worth a shit on eBay or just as bad they just look up whatever it's worth on eBay and ask the highest price. Nearly impossible to get a deal in 2020+ and often I find it cheaper/easier to order stuff off buyee.jp listed as junk or trawl on eBay and get lucky. Even with the shipping/tarrifs its still less than buying stuff domestically often.
>>4493078Electronic components have a limited lifelifespan and some much more limited than others. I still have my Dimage X from2002 and it kind of works but forgets all settings when powered off. Chinkexpress may help when batteries and chargers die but good luck replacing dead smd electrolytic capacitors and memory back up batteries.One can expect 100 year old Brownie II work fine if it's not rotten from moisture but average 00's digishit is much more likely broken in some way than not.(Grok gave me 70-90% odds being broken for 2000s and 20-70% for 2010's device with electorlytic capacitors and a backup battery.)
>>4493156I think you're kind of missing the mark. You don't buy a digicam because you want ultraHD crisp images with scientifically accurate colors. The camera isn't supposed to be *good*.You want a 240p image with the dynamic range of a whistle and so much sharpening that everything has a halo. And that's really not something you can replace with a DSLR without so much editing you're invalidating the whole point.They're not even that expensive. In the US you can find tons of them for sub-$20 on ebay. Just because Australia is perpetually fucked on prices doesn't mean everyone else is. >>4493078 A lot of those cameras *are* like $15 and the extra $50 is to ship to the shithole island in the middle of nowhere.
>>4493156>all the thrift stores list anything worth a shit on eBay or just as bad they just look up whatever it's worth on eBay and ask the highest priceSeems to be a thing for pretty much everything now. Old game consoles, blu rays, stereo equipment is all priced the same in-store as it is online. It's not even worth going into a store anymore.I miss when I was able to just buy GameBoys and other old used shit for $5 in bargain bins but it seems like everything has nostalgia factor now, even just a simple camera or phone from only 10 years ago.
>>4493287You're not the only one who wants that GameBoy. Everyone wants the GameBoy, that's why it costs so much. It people aren't paying more than $2 it doesn't get listed for $2. Businesses aren't out there trying to not make money.
>>4493310They made 120 million of them, they're not some super rare item. For comparison, there are only 89 million PS3s and that's all the variants like the fat, slim and super slim combined.
>>4493313Not all 120 million of those still exist, especially with them being fairly small devices. Almost 40 years of neglecting 'bargain bin' items has made them legitimately a bit rare. And most people who already have them don't want to sell them. Like it or not, it's just capitalism doing capitalism things. Thing with low supply and high demand cost much money.
Between one of these and printers like the Kodak Mini, which one would make for a better gift? The sharpening is absurd and I don't think my friend would actually use it as a camera, but at least it still looks nice as an overpriced key chain. On the other hand, the printer is actually useful but the extra cost of the cartridges could turn it into a really bad gift.
>>4493368>On the other hand, the printer is actually useful but the extra cost of the cartridges could turn it into a really bad gift.Only if you’re a really bad gift giver. Make sure to give it to him with more than enough printing cartridges to last him at least a year. Ditto for the Charmera: make sure to get him a micro SD card with it. Gifts shouldn’t be a financial burden or a headache for the receiver.
>>4493368Now, if you don’t think he’d use a Charmera but you think he’d use a Kodak Mini, isn’t that the answer to your question? Get him a Mini.
>>4493368Or… hear me out: por que no los dos?
>>4493406Yeah, I was already planning on getting a micro SD if I get the charmera. I guess I'll have to look up more info about the cartridges if I get the printer>>4493407He wouldn't use it as a camera, but it's still a nice accessory>>4493408I don't like my friend that much (I'm poor)
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