How do you sell a photo for over a million dollars?
>>4476693The right connections. Real talent has nothing to do with it at that price point.
>>4476693for starters dishonest photographyrhein ii is heavily shopped
>>4476693You need to be good at editing
>>4476693>>4476703if either of these photos were above 30 pixels wide we could compare them but alas
>>4476694>The right connectionsThis. It's not what or how you do, it's who you know.Especially photography. Since it can be done well by anybody really.
Boys, do not look up the list of most expensive photographs on Wikipedia. You will get angry.
>>4476720>that'll be 12 million dollars please.
It's art world connections but also theoretical depth. Gursky is working constantly yet only puts out 3 or 4 photos a year. He thinks extremely deeply about what he's doing and the result is that he captures the ennui of late capitalism better than anyone. His photos have to be defensible within the entire canon of western thought so that the old money dilettantes who sip wine and read critical theory all day will shuck out for it.
>>4476722That one at least makes some sense for the historical aspect: an early conceptual art photo. The Cindy Sherman slop is what got me.
>>4476699OBSESSED.
>>4476722Ah the fine artistry of GIMP’s text tool
Get a photo of a celebrity doing something wild.Sell it to the biggest agency.In fine art photography, it would be a case of becoming a renown photographer. Being widely published. Receiving critical accreditation for years. Then acquiring a gallerist who would be willing to invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in promoting you and helping you to produce work by paying for it to be printed and distributed. Then you might produce a work which a company, syndicate, or wealthy individual might pick up at auction for over a mil. But its rare. You are about 100 times more likely to make a million by literally dumping photography right now and starting painting.
>>4476728Burtynski absolutely mogs Gursky.
>>4476917Burtynsky*
>>4476699That's the point. The artistic intention is how unnatural the rhine valley is.
>>4476917>>4476946Oh not at all. Burtynsky's grift is making technically competent photos in privileged places that people like us don't have access to. That's it. Any decent artist of the now century-old modernist tradition would make photos like his in those situations. Sure they are beautiful. But the obvious criticism (which was fatal to the new topographics movement 50 years ago) is why are you aestheticizing something you claim to hate? It's a derangement made even more painful by directly spelling out the environmentalist intent like he does. A clownworld Ansel Adams. Gursky is also guilty of exploiting access for shock value, but seems to understand he's made a deal with the devil given the conceptual depth of his images. Not being so concerned with seeming formally clever allows him confront deeper cultural aspects of the spectacle. Essentially Gursky depicts the disease, not merely the symptoms.
Starting at 250'000 dollars!Do I here 300'000 dollars? 300'000 dollar!>be honest with the right connections this pic would sell way more than the ones you have posted here. But I'm happy with 250'000 if youd find a buyer. I'll be holding on to the RAW
>>4477194Ill give ya tree fiddy
Money Laundering of course.
>>4477233I have an art collection worth $180'000. You know when you buy something and flip it on eBay? Its just that. Even for the big collectors. Nothing more insidious. Anti-Laundering regulations have been in place for years. Identities are checked, bank accounts can be accessed and investigated, sales can be stopped. There are no more anonymous beneficiaries for big sales - the money is traced. The only reason NFTs exploded and then disappeared was because they were a loophole for laundering - and then they immediately got regulated virtually out of existence. Stop being poor with a poor person mindset.
>>4477251>Anti-Laundering regulations have been in place for years.They were created to attempt to curb laundering through fine arts among other ways. If one were laundering he wouldn't want the item to make the headlines for a record setting price though.
>>4477251Follow where grand pieces of art are auctioned off... they pretty much follow the f1 grand prix circuit. Safe havens for taxes. It used to be important port cities and financial capital of the world but that has kinda changed.
>>4476728this Gurky is a heavy weight photographer who put his large format cock in mouths of art critics who use to say that "photography is not art". He won all battles for you. Have some respect.
>>4477165Great post.
>>4477165True but i don't enjoy either of them for the societal/cultural messaging, i'm sure Gursky is just as pozzed as him when it comes to muh climate change. I just fuck with Burt because he's up there like a photographic skyking just taking the biggest photos of the biggest things. Regardless of the message ypu gotta respect the grind. Also he could just be using the climate change method to pay for his success and thus his elite artist lifestyle taking photos from the heavens.Regardless of everything id rather have a room full of Burtysnky than Gursky
It has to be something captured so well, that no one else can ever replicate. Keep taking photos until you reach that point.
>>4476693I don't.
>>4478620>societal/cultural messagingThat's what you're calling the meaning of the work, which is literally the entire point of art. I don't think these guys are for you. If Burt is pretending to be retarded just to sell photos then he's not a great artist. If people "fuck with" him for vibes while denying the ecological catastrophe in the photo, well that's another failure. Gursky at least has a normie filter.
>>4476693Roll it up, smear a little butter on it, push it up Cindy Crawford sweaty anus, pull it out and put it up for auction.I mean am i wrong? I think not.
>>4479436im literally just saying i aesthetically enjoy Big burt more and i dont really care for the message
>>4476693Take a bunch of pictures of black and indigenous women and self-publish a photobook called "Documenting Bodies and Spaces" and go on a speaking tour at universities big and small all over the country.
>>4479897I'm saying and that's why he isn't selling million dollar photographs like Huge Gherkin Gursky
>>4476693>Take photo>Sell it for a million dollars
The art market at this price level is ultimately just tax evasion and money laundering, but Gursky's work is at least good IMO. Rhein II isn't really my cup of tea but I love a lot of his large format works, and seen printed huge (130 inches or so on the long side), his work at the Broad made a strong impression on me.
>>4477165>why are you aestheticizing something you claim to hateDo you think Full Metal Jacket is an invalid critique of the war in Vietnam?
>>4476693>>4476917Those two pics are the apotheosis of mental masturbation it's the equivalent of cranking the saturation slider to the max because but for the "muh society" slider.To sound more mundane and pedantic one could quote dostoevsky :>The consciousness of life is higher than life, the knowledge of the laws of happiness is higher than happiness-- that is what we have to fight against..You should read the book, if after reading you still believe people like them are to be held on a pedestals, you should consider doing the same thing as the main character.
>>4482490>BecauseI'm phoneposting my bad
>>4482488Apples to oranges. FMJ is satirical and a critique of postmodernism not the Vietnam War
>>4479436>, which is literally the entire point of art.nonsense. for a cultural artifact to carry intelligible propositional meaning which one might refer to as the object of its "societal/cultural messaging", means it fails to be art. by virtue of this "propositional content", it positions itself within the social sphere of reason, at best it can be a piece of political kitsch
>>4482635take your medicine autismo
>>4482559Most retarded statement I've read on /p/ by far >>4482635>>4482490The two anons here are right. If you want to add politics to your work I couldn't care less, but if the political aspect completely shadows the artistic beauty, then you are part of why the world sucks and should do politics instead of poisoning beauty with ideology
>>4482650I too once thought this.Boy was I fucking stupid.
>>4482650The essence of modernity is there's no beauty without ideology. That's why you're clueless as to the topic of this thread.
all art is political btw
>>4482655>>4482676ah my bad, thanks for actively trying to make the world an insufferable place with no beauty, I'm stupid and you are right everything should be politicised
>>4482677yes sure retard, even if that was true (it's not btw, picrel is literally "wow incredible view I'll take a pic" and then it's used to show why beauty should be conserved), then you still can blend your message in beauty, just like Ansel did. If not just go be a politician, it's not complicated, stop ruining the world with ugly shit everywhere and go play pretend with your friends. I hate retards that believe exposing ugliness will make it disappear, you just make the world ugly.
I'm no artist, I'm no art critic. I love Burtynsky and Gursky's work.
>>4482685>>4482683>just go be a politicianThe thing is people don't have to listen to your impotent crying. Muh beauty is something different to everyone until a set of shared values aka ideology lends it objective weight.
>>4482698Faggot go on a hike.
>>4482708You can't build anything on primordial force, if so then top predator animals would have kingdoms, and they do not
>>4482708>implying "go on a hike" is an insultkek
>>4482727As if kingdoms were built by fags like you and not warriors. Even if it was true what's your point ? Are you happier than cats or owls ?>>4482839Based retard, read between the lines you've missed the point
