The worst part of photography school is paying for the fees, but the facilities and tutors are really good where I am. I might drop out after I get what I want out of it. It forced me to learn how to photograph and meter properly, use composition, understand lighting, and edit in post-production—all things that amateurs struggle with because they can’t ask a professional for tips.
>>4481544>t forced me to learn how to photograph and meter properly, use composition, understand lighting, and edit in post-productionshit that you learn from a book or 30 minutes on youtube,lmao
>>4481548There’s more nuances to it than 30 minutes of YouTube allowsYou also need instant feedback
>>4481548Bait post. No one could possibly be this stupid.
>>4481550This. Understanding how light behaves or works takes years. Even some seasoned photographers won’t understand complex questions about light.
>>4481574What cases do you have in mind when you're talking about “complex questions about light”?
>>4481609My tutor gave me this one:>What types of shadows would you get if a person stood in a completely white topless "cube" (four walls around the person, and they're painted white) but where there was a black floor, and the sun was directly overhead? Now variate the question with different sun positions and colours on the walls or floor, and it becomes a complex question of how light behaves. You have to remember that the walls act as diffusers of light and can make it softer or change in path/intensity depending on how it bounces off a surface of whatever material or colour.
>>4481544If you haven't got your foot in the door of industry then your "learning" is not over. Learn how to survive then dropout.
>>4481610>variateMeant to say vary*
With photography you can never really become completely educated, there is always something new to learn. You can be better than 99% of the population at taking photos with very little effort though.
>>4481544In all art disciplines you have both theory and practice. Understanding theory is deeply important, but still the most important part is to actively be out taking pictures.A technically perfect photograph can still be snapshit, while one that is deeply flawed in execution can be what is remembered and held up.
>>4481613I agree. There is so much to learn and I don't think I'll ever be able to master it all. I really only want to learn visual art as a means of therapy and self-expression. I'm a paranoid schizophrenic and find that my life is meaningless without art. I don't think I'll ever be able to match the masters of photography, nor my favourite photographers. I don't care so much about being better than others, but I do want to respect the field and artform by at least paying homage to the greats.>>4481663Theory is the most fun part and trying to understand how you can express it in your own way for a particular concept or idea is harder than anything I've ever done. I've been trying to understand colour theory and it is hard to understand what cultural associations each individual has with colours, hues, saturations, and luminances. But that's what makes it so beautiful. What someone thinks is dreadful and disgusting could be beautiful and harmonious to another.
>>4481544>drop outThe ONLY reason to "study" photography is to get a signed document that you did it, you fucking imbecile.You can learn to take photos on youtube on gear that costs pennies.
>>4482470But the fees are too expensive.
>>4481610And give your tutor the same question but inverted environmental settings.He will mumble some shit like >well..., probably.., it would be.... I think...Even that faux intellect tutor will not answer to your question with a certainty because he probably never took a shot with a sun under the person's heel worn out birkenstock.Don't make photography a theoretical physics.You probably have a digital camera. i'm not even talking about a 3000 usd worth camera. your phone. take a shot and look at the picture and examine the shadows.Act first and See the result of your action and Refine your next action and Repeat this until you get desired result. Fuck the mental gymnastics.You'll learn and save your time a lot from this take a shot and look and refine method instead of paying your meme tutor to get useless, sophisticated question only to get your ego boosted by the notion of you learning something complicated shit.Prior leaning from a lot of failures and their patterns.
>>4481610If you answered this question, how would you relate to a real world scenario with a camera?
>>4482552I think the whole point is that the exercise/understanding helps you formulate ideas/have vision for creating your own images rather than just being an observe and document snapshitter like every other gwac.
I've always found high education in art to be one of the most counterproductive things. To me school rewards more the interested than the talented. Meaning that even if you study all the classics, study how light behaves mechanically, or cameras and their history, you won't necessarily be great. A great artist would just have the feeling of love and creativity for his craft that an educated person can't buy. I hold a PhD in physics, does that mean I'm a great researcher ? No (sadly). I don't have the vision, the little thing that the greats have, I don't. I will never discover anything meaningful because if I was on the road to be great, I would have walked this road a long time ago. In engineering I often say >lot of engineers but really few ingenious persons.It's the same in photography, a lot of photographers, and very few artists. I'm a firm believer that if fan ho can take picrel, you don't need school, you need talent, and school won't give it to you, thrust me. I know how light behaves mechanically better than most people in the world, yet my pics sucks. Enjoy the beauty, don't focus on theory, that's what ruins the world.
>>4482661because you are just a an autistic manchild, barely human
>>4482661What do you take pictures of?
>>4482576Sure who said you shouldn't? My point is you shouldn't fall for the muh smart guy faggotry.You're permitted to just take an action first, at least in photography. And this is one of the greatest perks of photography.
>>4481544>ll things that amateurs struggle with because they can’t ask a professional for tipslmaoo dis nibba 4 realsies? professional photographers are on youtube giving you tips on all of those topics
>>4482841You need instant feedback and critique. No one on here knows what they're talking about and most people don't take photos. I don't know any other community that offers critique for free.
>>4482849cope more faggot you lost your money for a scam you'll never be talented you either have it or you don't >>4482661 this guy gets it
>>4482849I wish I had the confidence to just not even google "photography critique" before saying you can't get it for free.Maybe you should go to that other site, you would probably like it more than here.
>>4482851So what? I'm doing it for my mental health because I have paranoid schizophrenia and need art therapy. I only took two courses and received almost full marks; it wasn't hard at all but I wanted to study something I liked.
>>4482855I know heaps of good photographers like Bryan Birks who use Reddit. /p/ has like a dozen or two dozen dedicated users and everyone shits on their photos. I just don't understand the point of this place, but alas every 4chan board isn't for its dedicated hobby, it's instead a lolcow farm for cluster B personalities.
>>4482858Photography is effectively dead (no worthwhile audience, no worthwhile artists, no worthwhile community) and awaiting a revival beyond this poverty porn and bokeh black people slump. The few hints at what the revival may be, believe it or not, came from /p/. The kids aren’t listening to rap music anymore. They’re gagging at the thought of winogrand. Mark cohen is mega cringe. They’re calling jazz noise. They’re going to church. And they’re going to like alex burke and doghair neggatives.
>>4482859I was a teacher for a bit and all the new crop of gen alpha crop are still listening to drill and speak in ebonics or TikTok slang. They might be more interested in visuals and images but that's because they're functionally illiterate.
>>4482858Join a local facebook group
>>4482856even in text form I can tell you are an insufferable teenager kek>received almost full marks; it wasn't hardhahahah wooooooowwww impressive anon. But most seriously go make some friends and go take pictures, you clearly were not bullied enough
>>4482863I'm 27. Sorry that I care about my grades.
>>4482862I just joined and it's all Indians and camera shop people. I guess this place is the best I have. I don't mind if people shit on my photos but I wish there was more knowledge.
>>4482865What about you post pictures instead of bitching about /p/ and being a loser?
>>4482891I want to have a career instead of being a hobbyfag like you
>>4482893>I'm doing it for my mental health because I have paranoid schizophrenia and need art therapy.>I want to have a career instead of being a hobbyfag like youpretentious lying fag still haven't posted any pics of your catalog. Something tells me that it'll be some street shit
>>4482904Here. Critique it all you want. I am trying to get better.Wanting a career and doing it for therapy aren't mutually exclusive but I guess I have cognitive dissonance over what I want to do. I just want to get good at photography, and that is it.
>>4482908Meh it's ok honestly, the top left is too empty, you could've shopped the cloud to put it up so you would have a symmetry of the cloud around the cross-pigeon axis. The position of the pigeon is nice you can clearly tell it's taking off from the cross and gives a sensation of leaving the frame. Of course there's the angel symbolism but that's overdone and the bird is a pigeon. For the colour grading it's not bad but the eye and feet of the bird are almost purple and orange. The grains help a lot to give this religious style, I'm sure a smooth version would not be pleasant to watch. Honestly good picture just not that interesting / deep.
