Recently got a camera without a light meter, looking for some tips on how to meter by eye.I get the principle behind sunny 16, and have the table in my head, but I'm constantly getting different readings from my (phone) light meter than I'm getting from my guesses using sunny 16. Is it just practice?
>>4481784As a side topic, could any Anons also share some tips metering at night, my phone meter told me this would be exposed decently, but it seems to have only taken the highlights into account.
>>4481785Just get a proper light meter
>>4481784The “sunny” implied by sunny 16 is that bright, blinding, mid day “I need sunglasses” type, so less than that and your assumed readings will start to differ. But film has decent latitude, off by a stop higher/lower should still be decent. But like >>4481789 said just get a meter the chinks make cheap tiny ones these days
>>4481785When shooting at night you're constrained by the minimum shutter speed you can hold without inducing motion blurThat usually ends up around 1/30th or 1/15th if you have a wide angle or very steady hands, but the rule of thumb is to get the shutter speed closest to your focal length (50mm --> 1/60, 28mm, 1/30th), and then reducing another stop when you really need it or can brace yourself.If you're under ISO 3200 and for the kind of scene in >>4481785 it's best to stay around f/2.I usually shoot at 1/125th and ISO 6400 and adjust between f2.8 and f4 in "well lit light" (well lit streets, commercial areas), and then nudge my speed down as I need it when entering darker places.Too much light won't hurt, but too little will make it hard to bring out in post. Name of the game is finding the sweet spot where you're not taking in too much light, but everything you care about is captured.Light doesn't change much once night has fallen, so I usually check the light meter a couple of times at the start, and then it's all vibes based, either nudge it brighter or darker in the range I believe I'll get a sharp image.
>>4481794examples here are 1/60th 6400 with a 40mm equivalent lens
uooo... oh wait, misread the thread titlecarry on
>>4481795Works the same (or even better) on film
>>4481797Rember to push your Tri-X, it's fun
>>4481798And it works
>>4481784You're doing it wrong thenmy weston meter and my in-camera meters all agree with my own estimations. Depending where you live, midday sun might not be EV 15, it could be dimmer. Sometimes you might have to use sunny 11.
Why are you trying to estimate when you have a light meter on your phone?>>4481794>When shooting at night you're constrained by the minimum shutter speed you can hold without inducing motion blurJust use a tripod. Stop making things hard on yourselves. Do what you can to get the best results possible. No one cares how you take your photos.
>>4484172Why carry what you don't need?1/8th, 50mmI've used my tripod like twice since I bought it, I'd consider a monopod maybe, but why bother when you don't need itThere's enough light out there
>>4484172>No one cares how you take your photos.No one cares but >youHonestly I only ever use a tripod for portraits or large format, and I basically never do those. I used to use one for HDR, but there again, I bracketed a lot of shots handheld and it was fine.
ITT retards that should use a meter post more ugly pictures to the board
>>4481797>>4481798>>4481799Looks underexposed as fuck. Noisy and no shadow detail.
>>4484182>>4484215>what is artistic choice
>>4484216A poorly done cope in this case.
>>4484219you are autistic, you wouldn't get it.
>>4484215It is underexposed, by about 3 stops as it turns outthat's part of the process of pushing film, isn't it great?It's just examples of how you can adapt your shooting to suit your environment and know you can keep taking photos after darkBecause it's fun
>>4484229Where's this? You did a fantastic job of making it very ambiguous
>>4484231in Lyon, I was gonna take a picture of the street but the guy thought I was gonna get him. So I did end up shooting him.it's a cool city
>>4484233ended up*
>>4484234fuck I'm retarded tonight, why did I see a typo thereAlso found this picture I apparently never edited, it's completely off topic but that girl is pretty
>>4481784Shoot the same ISO for a year using one lens and you'll get a good understanding of sunny 16.