Welcome to /m43/general!m43 sisters, we are known to be adventurers at heart. While Wormfags and Snoybois debate mtf charts and x-trans rights, we go out and explore the world around us. Capturing its beauty within m43's infinite depth of field. In this edition: I am back to m43. I've sold my huge bulky Nikon Zf after realizing that I'm way too feminine to lug around such a huge piece of Japanese technology and I got meself a brand new OM5 Mk. II.I also got a GX9 to live out my closeted homesexual street photography urges. Picrelated is my sane financial choices in one picture. Enjoy!A list of m43 youtubers you should totally watch if you hate yourself:Landscape (leaves and rocks):Guido v. (OM1) - https://www.youtube.com/@GuidoVanDeWaterHenry Turner (OM5) - https://www.youtube.com/@HenryTurnerphotoWaterfall Joe (OM1) - https://www.youtube.com/@WaterfallJoe/videosIan Worth (OM1) - https://www.youtube.com/@ian_worth/videosNature/Wildlife (bird buttholes):Lee Hoy (OM1.2) - https://www.youtube.com/@leehoyphotographyEspen Helland (OM5, OM1) - https://www.youtube.com/@EspenHellandEmilie Talpin (OM1.2) - https://www.youtube.com/@EmilieTStreet (just buttholes):Jimmi West (OM5) - https://www.youtube.com/@jimmywestphotoGearfags/AIDS (insufferable assholes):M43 Guy - https://www.youtube.com/@ThatMicro43GuyMicro Four Nerds - https://www.youtube.com/@MicroFourNerdsRED35 - https://www.youtube.com/@Red35PhotographyRobin Wong - https://www.youtube.com/@robinwongThomas Eisl - https://www.youtube.com/@ThomasEisl.PhotographyChris Baitson - https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisBaitson (ultra fag)
>>4485342Kill yourself
>>4485343no, u
>my mount system is so special it needs its own thread durrAt least it's easy to filter I guess
>>4485345nophotos need to shut up and go back to their fool frame threads
>>4485348This is worse than no photo, now kill yourself.
>>4485348Nah he’s right kill yourself
>>4485348This looks like a phone pic.
>>4485352tell me which phone offers this superb quality and haptic enjoyment of a proper camera
>>4485342>m43 sisters, we are known to be adventurers at heart. While Wormfags and Snoybois debate mtf charts and x-trans rights, we go out and explore the world around us. Capturing its beauty within m43's infinite depth of field.omg this is so me i'm literally just about to go out on a hike/snowshoe with my m43 gear. the light looks like it'll suck though, c'est la vie>In this edition: I am back to m43. I've sold my huge bulky Nikon Zf after realizing that I'm way too feminine to lug around such a huge piece of Japanese technology and I got meself a brand new OM5 Mk. II.this is also me (but i only got the om-5 mk i). idgaf about youtubers though
>>4485354>>this superb quality>Anon tries to justify his buyer's remorse with a three-stop underexposed phone snapshit.Yeahh.... buddy... no.
>>4485362>nophoto opinioninto /dev/null it goes
>>4485363That's obviously a phone pic. You aren't fooling anyone.
Micro four thirds always looks so shit. Why do people shill it? Fuji xt5 and canon r7 fully outdated it. It has no reason to exist except for some faggots that cant handle 1lb. And the im better than you attitude… bitch your camera is DEFINED by not being able to afford a better one. It is objectively bad. Know your place. >>4485360Wow nice google pixel
>>4485363This was obviously shot on an android phone
>itt we see anon try and defend his poor life choices and fail against the might of the collective's common sense
>>4485342Just be normal and use a d750 and 50mm f1.8
>>4485380>>4485375>>4485368>>4485367NOPHOTO FAGGOTS! REEEEEEEEE
>>4485367you sound mad. typical wormji seethe :)
>>4485380been there, done that. dslrs are dead - and for good reason
>>4485384??Sensor from d750 is the same as the sensor in z6 line?Sensor from d850 is still top rated sensor ever made, and even z7 and z8 are considered to be inferior?Seems that you are just retarded
>>4485385>muh sensorthis ain't a gearfag thread
>>4485382>>4485383>>4485384>>4485386What the actual fuck are you doing? Is this a phone camera? Are you cropping and rotating out half the resolution? Are you using AI?Huskyfag hated m43 so much he took the time to prove equivalent settings were a half stop darker on the m43 and his em5 shots still looked as good as APS-C when not testing equivalency and just giving it the extra half stop of light. How the fuck can you be worse at this than huskyfag? Literally ken rockwell’s dogsitting side gig?
>>4485387Lets see your great works, nophoto. I doubt you have the reach and capabilities for images like this.
>this aint a gearfag thread btw i constantly buy cameras because i want to impress my 4chan friends but i also hate photography and hate carrying a camera so i am never happy with anything and I only put the bare minimum effort into taking photos so every camera sucks after i buy itEarth to OP:Grow the fuck upGROW THE FUCK UPYour idiotic consumerist behavior is inexcusableThese blurry, phone tier snapshits are inexcusableFucking dpreview mooks shoot better shit. Jesus fucking christ. Grow the fuck up. This is either the hobby for you or it isn't and between your gear pile and these godawful "photos" it clearly isn't.Move on. Go get (you)s on /mu/ by buying boutique pedals or something.
>>4485354This has more detail and was taken with a phone (xiaomi 16 pro max)
>>4485387>a bloo bloo bloowho's gonna read all that shit? not me. get lost nophoto fool framer
>>4485396>>4485402Phone wins easily between these
>>4485402>be gearfag>take literal phone quality photos of gearYeah sell that shit
Everyone is switching to M43. Why aren't you?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPxMbMuy-zo
>>4485403holy detail moggedhow will m43 ever come back from this ahahahaha
>>4485418phones have tons of ai upscaling now, mine only does it for close objects, not sure if it does ai trickery for moon and stars/milky way, but for sure a lot of phones do now
>>4485418Phone close focus shooting is actually decent because doing near-macro with an UWA is basically cheating and getting closer lessens the visibility of detail smearing. Better results are to be had with superior sensors but it takes more effort.
>>4485410>nobody youtubers are giving up on good cameras because people dont look at their photos for longer than 1s or larger than 720p - if they even do if it’s not a pixel peeping segment (youtube shows most viewers skip to those)Lol even doghair has a realer audience than a youtuberImagine being a youtube photographer (gear reviewer)
>>4485431>nobody youtubersyeah, Ian Worth switched recently, tooso that's hardly "nobody"m43 is having a great revival - only /p/incels get left behind masturbating to their wormjis and snoys
I just switched to M43 over from Full Frame myself. Behold!
>>4485470And with a photo, too!
>>4485471oversharpenedtoxoplasmosisface not in focusits a canon so it looks like m43 anyways2/10 would not print
>>4485456>The wristlet youtoobr swaped to the lighter kit because it's obviously better and no it's not because he just doesn't want to carry actual gear aroundSmaller kits are fine but don't delude yourself.You could just use your phone but MFThirdies can't larp or pretend they're god's gift to photos unless they have camera ergos to show off.Show me one photo that doesn't look like a phone pic.
>>4485472If it helps at all, it's not the face you're supposed to focus on, it's the eyes. You'd only have the face in focus if the subject's head was angled down or you were stopped down enough to cover both. Have you started recently?
>>4485475>if it helps me justify a bad photo, having essential features out of focus is correct and looks great according to me
>>4485477I don't remember saying it was a good photo, but the focus was definitely proper. You focus on the eyes every time - this is a pretty basic thing, bad photos or otherwise.
>>4485471lol how much AI trickery went into fixing the fucked up focus?
>>4485475>Have you started recently?>eyes in focus>nose not in focus>ears? what ears - I just see blur>muh bokeh>muh open aperturemore like you started recently lol
>>4485474unironically I would use phone if it had dials and physical shutter buttanand if you could turn off the AI rape
>>4485495Well, it's not like this particular thread (or RPT) deserves better than a 5 year old snapshit anyway. Maybe I should quit digging through my archives.Besides, my trolling got responses like I wanted. Thank you.
>>4485504you sad sad little man with toxoplasmosis making you retarded
>>4485515Is English not your first language?
>>4485517are you a sad little man? with toxoplasmosis making him retarded? typical m43 thread
>>4485518>typical m43 threadThis. I wish M43 users weren't so stupid that they thought you had to have the whole face in focus (and with implications that it takes priority over the eyes!). I guess that's what happens when you're used to everything being "in focus" and not used to having to be careful with the focal plane of a real lens (and don't even get me started on field curvature - be happy that your baby lenses can't have this issue).
>>4485523You do have to have the whole face in focus. Most medium format aka real photography shots are at f11-f16.
>>4485524Your bait needs work.
>>4485504>i'm just playing retarded - the postyes, of course it's just a 5yo snapshot. of course it's just bait to get replies. sure anon.
>>4485523why have anything in focus? why not have just bokeh? I mean that's what you paid for with that ass gape open f1.2 lens
>>4485534It's okay to fall for it once in a while, there's no need to project your own cope.>>4485535f1.4 stopped down to f2.
Okay, here's an actual M43 shot.
>>4485555Why is the tonality so bad and where is all the microdetail?
>>4485556becuase it's shot with a snoy
>>4485556Because I shot it wide open and underexposed on a 6D2 (which has shit for dynamic range even compared to other Canons), then my own amateurish edits crunched what little was left, and that'll kill detail quickly no matter what format you're using. More importantly, the lighting already sucked.Yet, it still felt like a breath of fresh air after my GH5.
Break time at work, where'd everyone go? I guess it's nighttime across the ocean.
>>4485588if you had a full frame camera you’d have real friends fyi
>>4485603TRUKE
>>4485603Australians' don't have friends, we have M8s.
>>4485555>>4485560Alright alright here's a purebred 43 shot that Ansel himself would be proud of.
>>4485342what a wonderful morning. 2 degrees C, sunshine, driving my convertiblehow can foolfags even compete?
>>4485388What prompt did you use?
>>4486657>i need photo of bird that looks like taken with a sony but processed like a fuji RAW
>>4486657Best m43 quality image of bird
Who do do many people seem to hate m43 cameras? There seems to be a specific niche for something small but good.
>>4487299Because anon is a blind idiot desu. A user posted a pic from a d700 in an earlier m43 thread and the typical comments of phone like quality etc followed until he posted exif.
>>4487299I think it is because m43 is considered a scam. The price you pay far exceeds what you get in terms of image quality.
>>4487302But enough about SNOY
>>4487301lmao
>>4487299>>>4486982
>>4487303Mirrorless cameras in general are a pretty big scam, tbqhwy. M43 seems especially scammy considering how you MUST buy the top of the line lenses or it looks worse than a modern cellphone.
>>4487306>>4486982Looks identical to ff with a fast telephoto lens according to the average /p/tard
>>4487307Are you the average/p/tard they talk so much about?
Every time I stop engaging with a board about a hobby my enjoyment of that hobby significantly increases4chan does something that genuinely robs you of the spark of enjoyment
>>4487299>Who do do many people seem to hate m43 cameras?Its literally just one autistic malding anon on this board
>>4487385I’ve been having the same thought about this particular board recently to be totally honest, it’s non stop negativity constantly and every single post is about fucking gear
>>4487388Make your own thread with good pictures or post/read rpt thread only. Fgt is good for non gearfags, but you're an m43 user so I doubt you shoot film.
>>4487299Because they’re large but bad instead. Same size as an a7c. Phone IQ. The fanboys need to stop pretending they’re not digishitsAlso basically all the nonsensical brand hate etc is just m43 shills. Their big thing is that sony and fuji are NOT EVER options, and normals sensor sizes can only be big and heavy, so m43 is mandatory as a travel camera.
>heres your compact lightweight FF travel camera setup bro!
>>4487424Did you know the lens on the right has a smaller aperture than the lens on the left?35/2.8=12.5mm16/1.4=11.4mmYeah, the a7c alone killed olympus. Just one sony camera put a whole brand out of business. Powerful.
>>4487425>f/2.8 vs f/1.4ohnononono the foolframer is retarded
>>4487426>doesnt know what the f number means or why we need "equivalence" (which includes photon shot noise at 100% but nothing else about ISO)All that actually matters is aperture size. F numbers just make the cameras controls more human readable.
>>4487426>ANOTHER micro fool turder self ownDo you do this on purpose? How sad is your life if all you do is be retarded on the internet
>>4487426Nice self report homie. You're allowed to stop posting any time bud.M43 existed succesfully for a little while because the actual camera brands were yet to do mirrorless properly. Once Snoyikkcannot went mirrorless you were doomed.
>>4487424Serious question: why the hell is it so big for an f/2 lens?
>>4487430Tamron made it. I’m not joking. They also do the cheap nikon lenses and non-L canons.
>>4487430Two words: fool frame
>>4487430Not all lenses are well designed and can use excellent manufacturing and exotic design to combine optical correction and small size. Look at the olympus sucko pro 20mm f1.4 and 17mm f1.2 ww. People often say all modern gear is greatBut only canon has been able to manufacture a full featured ff pancake lens for mirrorless, due to the efforts of our engineers exceeding those of their competitors such as sony (they made the same camera twice lol)Tech in the ILC industry has progressed considerably slower than in phones and good small lenses are actually still considered more advanced. Major brands just aren’t putting in enough effort for there to be serious competition. The entire market is resting on sheer sensor size and most paying customers being pros who can get the job done to modern quality standards with any camera from the 5div/d810 onwards
>>4487437And by that I mean, major businesses will buy the same camera twice and not care because they only want to continue having superior manufacturer support. Professionally, cameras are wear items. They have to be replaced, even if they still work. The other 10% of sales in these high price brackets (anything over $1000) are techie idiots who will buy anything new if they can brag about it having yet another feature they dont needHence, no serious need to innovate. As long as phones never get better we’re good!
>>4485342Honestly I think the OM-1III should switch to a design closer to the E-3 and E-5 with a large top status display
>>4487472they have released the em1iii 3 times. why not go for four? sure, a z8 in crop mode with a 400mm prime is cheaper and lighter, but…uhhhh…
>>4487481no, the om-1 was genuinely different (stacked sensor)-- the om-1ii on the other hand should have been a firmware update (same with the om-5ii). the om-1 is a viable wildlife camera unlike the e-m1iii.
>>4487425so anon, tell us what shutter speed do you get at 35mm+f2.8 and what speed do you get at 16mm+f1.4? is it the same shutter speed?
>>4487483>stacked sensor so the autofocus can miss moreLol>>4487488Yes because the lower ISO of 200 on the m4turds camera looks like iso 1000 on a full frame camera. Micro four thirds does not get free anything. It gets less. No fstops under f2.4 with autofocus. No ISOs under 1000. No resolution over 20mp. It even has diffraction at the same DOF. LOL. No wonder olympus went out of business. If you dont understand this you might be a better fit for pakistan or india than a real country
>>4487494no lenses sharper than a vaseline smear without spending ff money either. sad.
So if you want a small form camera what should you buy
>>4487496Film
>>4487496D850
>>4487496Used sony a7cE mount has a wide selection of compact lenses from viltrox, samyang, zeiss, sigma, cosina voigtlander, and sony thenselves.
>>4487496For being an insecure creepshotting twit, i mean, street photographer, a7cFor actually having balls, canon R8. Canon lens IS is more effective than sony IBIS.
>>4487520
>>4487526Can you explain, without acting like a street shitter, how a redditor accidentally scraping a gimmick gasket off an >A7CR< has any relation to the >A7C<?From my white male perspective you seem to be a thirdie applying your unevolved honor system to brands. >unevolved thought: some sony camera broke somewhere, sony has lost izzat and sony users have lost izzat. >civilized thought: wow, redditors are stupid. this idiot broke his brand new camera, and you can tell its his fault because hes whining on reddit instead of filing a warranty claim. as expected from the site that keeps breaking canon shutters.
>>4487528You’re right. Its fucking camera izzat. It all makes sense. What doesn’t make sense is why we don’t see the same amount of broken canon shutter or nikon peeling rubber spam. If this spamming anti-sony shill is an indian… he might be on someone’s payroll.
>>4487520>>4487528>>4487529>gm saars!
>>4487530So, you’re an indian after all. Of course.
>m43 general>jeet trying to shill his foolframe
>>4487543Where did you get my picture from? BUY AN A7C NOW
>>4487543Thats an a6000 he probably stole from a tourist. Om system is the choice of indians because the electronics are impervious to runny curry shits. https://www.instagram.com/omsystemindia/?hl=en
>ask simple question>no-lifers who lurk all day start argument
>>4487543LMAO
This is the 100th time it has been definitively proven anyone who buys into this dogshit, financially failed system is wasting their money and the best the syrian rape machine has is a picture of an indian guy holding a sony. Yes, sony sucks compared to nikon. But remember sony is the only reason micro four thirds cant turn enough profit to support R&D. Because the small sensor makes image quality so bad, its comparable to a 12mp dslr with an equally old lens.
>>4487555> I can’t distinguish ff from m43>m43 btfo
>>4487571>m43 looks as bad as a 12mp nikon with a soft lens>finally ff is btfolol its true, you’re thirdies who operate on an honor system. no critical thought. no understanding of how cameras work. its just back and forth, this is a dishonor to ___ faggotry
>>4487573 > cope cope cope well uhhh see it doesn’t count because hngggggggggggggg> can’t even tell when an image is shot on the sensor size he claims to hate as opposed to the one he endlessly shills Pathetic
>>4487574See? Honor system faggotry. You think like a primitive human.
>>4487574>snr figures? lp/mm? NO SIR THE FF WAS THE SAME AS THE M43 SO THE FORMAT HAS LOST IZZAT!Nigger, a d700 has the same DR and pixel well capacity as an OM5 and the same effective resolution despite having fewer megapixels. It is a TERRIBLE sensor. If m43 looks the same as one of the shittiest ff cameras ever made it has no business costing thousands when a $200 blob takes the same photos and an a7c or xe5 takes better ones.
>>4487576Nobody cares, nohpoto. Why are you so obsessed when you dont even take any photos?
>>4487576A $50 aps-c DSLR takes sharper, less noisy photos than a d700 (or literally any om shitstem) kek>>4487577>out with a wimper
I'm thinking about getting a proper bag. Would the Think Tank Mirrorless Mover 20 v2 be alright?
>>4487940My advice? Consider a proper camera first.
>>4487940That's a nice shot, I love the colors and textures.I hate shoulder bags so I can't comment. Just make sure it's not too small for your gear and also not way too big, and keeps what you need accessible.
>>4487576Post your work faggot
>>4487948I never had a shoulder bag myself. But I know that any photo backpack I never really use because it's a hassle to put it down, open it, take gear, put it again upand those gen-z sling bag manpurses I can't stand (also I'm too fat so it would look funny anyways I guess)
UPDATE: My wife kicked me out of the house and I'm living in my camper now.How are you doing, fellow m43 sisters?
>>4488405If this is satire it is a hell of a commitment.
>>4488405If you only got a 5DS R like we told you to instead of wanking to charts and equivalence she would have seen you as more of a real man
>>4487940>this looks like shit>Honey, I told you thats called pixel peeping, its for soulless->i am going to use my whole laptop screen buster. you will not speak to me like a child. i am sick of this. you HAD a nice camera like klaus’ canon. this thing, you spent $1000 of our money, these photos look like shit. my phone does this. >Its for 4chan it doesnt>THE BESTIALITY KIDDIE PORN SITE?>no honey that’s just /trash/ and /b/>OH. MY GOD. >I only like hmofa okay>WHAT>h-human males o-on…>FINISH IT>female anthros>GET OUT OF MY HOUSE>y-you dont understand photography is about more than how good the photos loo*SMACK*>OOOOOUUUUT! I am calling klaus over! Do not try to get back in!
>>4488405Danke fur your wife, bro.
>>4488426nah, her problem is that I spend too much time on photography and not on her lolshe can get fucked desu
Thoughts on the 12-45mm f/4 used for around $400 as a travel lens / product photography macro lens?I feel it is a bit lightweight than the 12-40 2.8 and has more macro capabilities. But that f/4 aperture (f/8 equivalent of FF) is stopping me especially when the 12-40 2.8 is only around $100 more at 450-550+ used.
>>4488434If you can afford a $550 f5.6 zoom you can afford a real camera like a d750
>>4488434if you like zooms it's a fine travel lensbut you should use a 17mm primeI'm going to get a 12-45 myself for my landscape work. I absolutely love the 40-150 f4 but sometimes I need it a little wider. the optical quality of the 12-45 is top notch and I don't need a faster lens so yeahthey're about 350 euro used here - which is a steal in my opinion
>>4488437Wow this is really good macro for an iphone. What about micro four thirds?
>>4488436it's f5.6 only when it comes to depth of fieldfor exposure triangle it's still a f2.8
>>4488438haven't found the macro auto-mode yet. my iphone just automatically switches to macro when it thinks macro would be best
>>4488439>its f2.8 i swear bro!Many people have gone over this with you. It’s f5.6. The aperture is the same size as an f5.6 lens on ff with the same FOV. Your ISO is even faker. Its 200 is meant to be equal to 800, but next to quality cameras like the nikon z6ii it looks more like ISO 1000.
>>4488441oh so I can't use a stand alone light meter with m43 then because it's all fake ISO and shit?bummer
>>4488436I already have two FF digital cameras. D600 and D610. Planning to sell the D600 soon and replace it with a used D810. D750 is nice but all the recalls 10 years ago is not my cup of tea.>>4488437I already have the 14mm 2.5 and 25mm 1.7 which are fine travel lens. My main complaint with the 25mm 1.7 for product photography is that it doesn't focus close enough for my needs. The 17mm 1.8 is a dream lens of mine but I couldnt part with the 14mm 2.5. Having both is redundant imo.>the optical quality of the 12-45 is top notch and I don't need a faster lens so yeahThe low weight around 250g is the huge plus for me over the 12-40 2.8. have you also considered the 12-40?Meanwhile the pana 12-35 2.8 is lightweight but it doesn't focus close enough for my needs.
>>4488434>buying a 24-90mm f/8 zoom lens for $400 HAHAHAHA I remember when I shoot film and have the slow Canon 100-200mm f/5.6 lens. Now micro poor pee pee has an f/8 zoom lens in 2025. Sensorlets when will they learn kek
>>4488445>have you also considered the 12-40?yes, but I'm not a zoom guy. I would use the zoom only for my landscape stuff so I don't care about fast shutter speeds, etc because I can always use a tripod if I have to.optical quality between the two lenses is (as far as I could read on the net) the same. only real difference is max aperture and size/weight. I like smaller/lighter lenses (that's why I got the 40-150 f4 instead of the f2.8 even though the 2.8 is a wonderful lens).
>>4488446https://www.canon.de/lenses/rf-800mm-f11-is-stm/as long as it's not a f11 prime lol
>>4488449While I agree that lens is a meme, it's also kind of impressive to get 800mm on FF for that price.Also, the M43 Zuiko 100-400 f/5-6.3 is a real whopping f/12 for twice the price (and it zooms, so fair) and I guarantee you it looks worse.
>>4488500>muh f.12you're a supreme retard, arent you? equivalence is only for depth of field. the zuiko is faster than the canon. you can get way better shutter speeds with the zuiko.>but le depth of field800mm/11 = 72mm400mm/6.3 = 63mm50mm/1.8 = 27mm50mm/1.2 = 41mmwoah the aperture on those two teles is bigger than on an 50mm f1.2 - which means that the depth of field is shallower.the only meme lens here is the canon because it's an 800mm that forces you to shoot as such slow speeds that you can't hand hold it lolfool framers fall for every marketing tactic
>>4488526>equivalence is only for depth of field. the zuiko is faster than the canon. you can get way better shutter speeds with the zuiko.>woah the aperture on those two teles is bigger than on an 50mm f1.2 - which means that the depth of field is shallower.Completely ignoring the fact that wider lenses get more in focus due to how light bends and how sensors (incl film) reach a point of no returns in regards to acceptable focus.You've also completely ignored that your M43 camera starts at real ISO 800 so is already two stops behind on ISO/Shutter Speed. Literally just shoot an R6II at ISO 800 and it'll look better than the Panasnoy or Lolympus.I don't think you understand even basic focal length to aperture isis opening theory. You've also decided to sperg out instead of trying to have an actual discussion, so I'm going to go ahead and say post hands.
>>4488526You know how m43 ISO 200 looks like FF ISO 800 in the best case scenario (ie: comparing against an old DSLR or a sony)?M43 f1.2 is f2.4 period. It has f2.4 depth of field. It has f2.4 light gathering. The settings you use look the same as the settings FF would use at f2.4, with the ISO two stops higher. Some good, newer FFs would actually take a brighter photo using such settings, or a more detailed less noisy one scaled to the same 20mp as your olympus. m43 f6.3 is slower than FF f11 800/11=72mm aperture400/6.3=63mmThis is just how cameras work. Also, 20mp m43 is diffraction limited after f5.620mp FF after f11Isnt that neat?You dont get free ANYTHING! No advantages! You threw the only two away (smaller and cheaper) when you blew your wad on an f2.4 prime. >the canon forces you to shoot at slow speeds!If there isnt extra light it requires raising the ISO to use a faster shutter… m43 has the ISO pre-raised. You can not use an ISO lower than 800 (in sony noise levels). It cancels out.
>>4488562>>4488554>trying to talk sense into someone who divorced his wife to marry micro four thirdshe’ll just samefag a day later and pretenf you’re wrong because you’re smarter than himsadly for him creativity requires intelligence and every good artist has been good at math and quit school because it was too easy
>>4488562Why are you behaving like this? Nobody likes you.
>>4488526>equivalence is only for depth of fieldWrong, because there's less light (signal) at the same f-stop for a smaller sensor your SNR plummets and you get more noise. Focal length, aperture and ISO are the three points of the equivalence triad across formats. >>4488562This is mostly correct
Olympus effectively went out of business because micro four thirds has no reason to exist at new camera prices. APS-C does literally everything better except being imperceptibly smaller and FF trounces it. The canon R7 outreaches every fool turds. The Z8 with a 400mm cropped to 800mm has the same quality as an om1 with a 400mm despite fewer megapixels (olympus megapixels are not very high quality). Its quite sad. Highest end FF is cheaper, lighter, and does the same thing plus more.
>>4488615>The canon R7 outreaches every fool turds.Wrong. MFT still has a small edge, if it were APS-C it'd be like 40MP at that density. However, it's a small difference and certainly not one worth sacrificing the implicit photographic integrity of the 90D over.
>>4488554"""fact""">ISO IS JUST A LIEso I can't use a standalone light meter with m43?
>>4488598>money spent on expensive fool frame copeit's fun to watch :)
So he does not like MFT, but he's also obsessed with MFT. He checks the thread many times a day and replies to every post.
>>4488629Extremely weird and pathetic
>>4488626LV doesn't lie. LV is LV. >>4488627Why does the M43 defence always come down to money? Are you Jewish Anon? Post nose.
>>4488615>APS-C does literally everything better except being imperceptibly smaller and FF trounces it. Are you for real? APS-Cuck it is for a reason. Imagine paying for instance an 18mm f/2 phuji lens when in reality its an f/3 lens with a light gathering of f/3. A fuji 2.8 zoom is actually an f/4.2 lens. Imagine paying for "premium priced" "high aperture" zoom 2.8 when in reality an f/4 lens like the Nikon 24-70mm f/4 has more light gathering than it. APS-Cucks are as fucked as the micro poor turds users.It's FF or just shoot with a god damn iPhone. >>4488629Shut up no photo mfturd
>>4488645>m43 falseflagAPS-C, FF, fake MF, real MF, and LF stand together against the phone sensor menace
>>4488645>Insists APS-C is a cuck format>only references foojiNow I don't mean to alarm you son, but real camera manufacturers like Nikon and Canon also make APS-C cameras and they're quite good.Yes you're about a stop and a third behind FF in most ways, but I don't see Nikon or Canon releasing a FF the size of an R50 (or the R50V) any time soon.>inb4 buy a snoyNo lol.>>4488647>pic rel
>>4488647>he shoots APS-CuckJust admit it anon you are as pathetic as these micro poor turds and can't afford a full frame like we do. >>4488651>like Nikon and Canon also make APS-C cameras and they're quite good.Meh Nikon Zfc is pathetic meme camera no wonder it's now selling for $600 on Ebay. same with other apscuck Nikons. A used Z5 can be had for $700 and below. Don't get me started on Nikon DX lenses both on their DSLR or mirrorless. Nikon pretty much gimped all DX lenses. A cucked system imo.
How is the G3 as a stills camera?
>>4488738great. every camera made in the past 15 years is great. photography has been solved long time ago - that's why it's all about 4k120p and other video bullshit now.
>>4488738Pretty shit. Like super shit. IQ comparable to a phone. You may as well get a digishit, or step up to an entry level DSLR like a d610 or cheap used d7xxx/d5xxx (avoid canon, shitty sensors until the 5div and 90d)
>>4488738a pocket cam like a canon s95 will have image quality that is every bit as bad but actually fit in your pocket unlike a $150 lumix g3 with a $500 f2.8 prime labeled as f1.4 to fool poorfags
>>4485342UPDATE: i'm so happy with my OM-5 II ... this week I was at the municipal office to sign the divorce papers and I did something I'd never do with my big and heavy fool frame camera: I took my camera with me and started snap-shitting while waitingpicrelated is the ceiling of the municipal center. what a waste of tax payer's money lola small EDC camm really is the secret to a happy life
>>4488963the more you fail to shut up the more its clear you’re convincing yourself, not us>shill mfturds>become divorced bum carrying his camera to the grocery and dmv to snapshit ceilings and backs of heads
>>4488963Protip: When your photography has purpose and direction, using a normal sized camera for it instead of an overpriced underperforming a7c sized turd is no biggie
>>4488963>at a low point in his life>copes by shitposting on 4chanChecks out.Now if only the photos were good...
>>4488976The photos of the OM-5 anon are pretty good though.
>>4488977He's easily one of the worst now that "am i a talented photographer" is gone. Just a bunch of bokeh twigs, point of view snapshits, and one time he worked up the courage to snap the back of some old woman's head.Either he's 5'2" or all of his issues are blatantly psychological and the reason he never shuts the fuck up and says nothin but this>FOOL FRAME IS SO HEAVY AND DOESNT SPARK JOY, SNOY ISNT AN OPTION EVERY SNOY SI SHIT, FUJI IS SHIT WORMS EVERY FUJI! IS! SHIT! REEE!is because he's deeply insecure and gets anxious when his camera makes him look too much like a serious photographer who gets held to standards. A zf, a7c, and om5 are all in the same size bracket, fuck, a DSLR is pretty easy to carry and no one cares, so everything he bitches about boils down to the fact that nicer cameras feel more attention grabbing whether they are or not (he's autistic and only has his own perspective and the paranoia and anxiety from that) and he doesn't want to be mocked for wasting his money on too nice of a camera - clearly not being a "real photographer" and having a "real photographers" kit. He's at government offices taking snaps of the ceiling while seated, at grocery stores, awkwardly half dipping his toes into pretending to be a photographer but in the end he doesn't feel like one.Why? My theory.His wife's critique mirroring /p/s. He takes all these meaningless, boring amateurish photos, bokeh twigs, blurry trees. She certainly said "you bought all of that shit, for THIS? ITS NOT EVEN AS GOOD AS GOOGLE IMAGES" and basically destroyed his ego and how secure he felt carrying "gear for real photographers"Neurotic self hatred like this is common in all hobbies... it's self enforced sour grapes.
>>4488980not even that, the negro is german so when xhe showed up at aldi with a zf, the stasi walked up and said>ekshuse me zir, but vat du need ze profeshanal camera fur? du hast die license fur professional photographie hir????germs are serfs. all of them feel beaten down and unworthy all the time. it's the culture of the country, ever since international jewery conquered germany with military force and made it illegal for them to be proud of who they are.
>>4488963This is obviously a huskyfag larp.
>>4488984>dogposting nikon dslr shill still has fanssad or based?
>>4488986He got a lot of (you)s for his effort and it is a very funny and convincing larp. I say BASED.
>>4488988It’s obviously not huskyfag. Its some german guy, the one that sold all his gear and lost half its value gambling on bitcoin because he wanted a fuji gfx. Everything since then has been cope and attention whoring blogs.
>>4488977No your photos 100% need work. Lots of work. You spent all this time gear coping and shaping your equipment choices around trolling /p/, when you should have been looking at photobooks by real niggas like lewis baltz and robert adams. Without inspiration you’re just doing rule of thirds and roughly centered phone snaps (because m43 looks like phone photos). Sorry!
>>4488990It's that guy? Okay well that makes it funnier than huskyfag larping as a divorced m43 guy living in a mobile home, I guess...>>4488992A year or two of only egg photography should help him get out of his snapshitting rut.
>>4488994What would even make you think it was all some nikon shill from last year? OP is the guy thats perpetually mad at the nikon shill. His victim, so to speak. >buy a nikon they’re the best. ken rockwell is my hero. look at this oversaturated dog photo. >ok. AAAA SHIT NOOOO IM A TRANNY FEMBOY ITS TOO MANLY LOOKING FOR ME TO EDC! I NEED M43>-how /p/ got ruined
>>4488997Because that would be extremely funny. He faked all those m43 pictures and fooled everyone. Wouldn't hold it past the guy to formulate another hilarious way to troll the mft community.
>>4489001>>4488994>>4488984>huskyfag... where are you... ;_;sad. just search google images for "bokeh husky standing with israel in suburban boomer back yard" to get your fix.
>>4489004Why are ‘koids like this?
>>4489005>>4489004Best IQ ITT. What camera?
>>4489007Micro four phone
>>44890084 very small phones btfos one very small sensor? Makes perfect sense really.
>>4487495Sad considering 15 years ago ZD lenses for the 4/3 SLRS were considered better quality than L glass (The 300/2.8 is NEVER seen for sale online, everyone just keeps them)
>>4487496Nikon V3 to make all the other anon's choices seem huge
>>4488980>FOOL FRAME IS SO HEAVY AND DOESNT SPARK JOYthis is pretty spot on. nothing else needs to be said
>>4488994>larping as a divorced m43 guy living in a mobile home, I guess..it's not a larp. it's a new opportunity to do what I loveyesterday I put my camper on a permanent camping lot where I will be staying full time and doing based nature photography. :)
>>4485342A dog sniffing those camera.
I suggest you stop with the basedmilk because a kilo+ shouldn't be a significant issue for anyone who isn't anemic.
>>4489044thats pretty awesome but i can tell the nature there is shit sadly. you should have gotten a van so you can move around more, nature photography is all about chasing amazing light and weather. anyway im guessing youre larping given you dont have any nature photos to share
>>4489043Are you 5’2”?>>4489044Pfahahahaha. Behold, the home of a micro fool turd!
>>4489090vans are fucking expensive. I spent 20k euros on my camper and it's fully kitted. for 20k you would get some 20 year old camper van.now I'd love to have a van but it's too expensiveif I posted my nature photos here it would be very easy to identify me and I dont need any 4ch trolls on my YT channel
>>4489091no, I'm 186cm
>>4489106How dare you crop the lip of that horse.
>>4489108I failed. Shitty horse didn't like the camera and was always moving its head away. This is the only sharp one I got.Horses are really retarded animals.
>>4489110So you couldnt frame or get in focus a simple horse with your fancy milc? Wtf?
>>4489111Nope, he’a gonna have to buy a new camera now. He’ll enjoy photography this time for sure!
>>4489107>im 168cm>5’6”lol manlet
>>4489107M43 would look comically small on you
Aww it's so cute and littleAre you ever worried people think it's your gf's camera?
>>4489119>no joy in his eyesMaybe the camera is too small?
>>4489120>no joy in his eyesaverage gearfag
>>4489106Looks like the quality from a 10mp nikon d200, with worse color science and less dynamic range. That green tint is horrid.
>>4489200My s5pro looks better.
>>4489106>i totally take good photos and have youtube channel>t. has never posted a good photo
>>4489236I just post the 2nd tier shit that barely survives culling. If I posted my good images you could just reverse image search it and doxx me. And because I'm from Germany and I have a problem with Jews the authorities would put me behind bars.
>>4489200that "green tint" is called grass. you should touch it some time, sweaty
>>4489303>I'm from Germany and I have a problem with Jews the authoritiesUm, based?Christoph is that you?
>>4489304>the sky, notorious for being green. from the grass. >>4489303narcissistic lying
>>4489312maybe get a calibrated monitor?
>>4489650what phone is this
>>4489652its a google pixel 10X(tra)L(arge) :D
>>4489650>>4489657Phones legit look better than this
>>4489650Kit lens? With such a small sensor you would think that manufacturers could make something with corner to corner sharpness. Crazy diffraction as well.
>>4489664>corner to corner sharpnessautistic chartfag alert
>>4485342man, I just browsed through my old Zf images ... and I somehow miss itthe image quality is noticeably better than my OM-5 IIshould I re-buy the Zf?
>>4489685Having 50% of your "architecture" snapshit being blurry garbage and the other 50% mushy garbage is very distracting and ruins the image. The disgusting image quality is not from me pixel peeping. The blurriness shows up in both your pictures when viewing it on my phone without zooming in at all. Utter garbage. You wouldn't even be able to get a 5 inch print that looked good from those snapshits. LolThe second photo is embarrassingly bad. You think having a bunch of slightly blurry cars and road makes your image look better or worse than if everything was nicely in focus? I thought you focused on taking good pictures instead of viewing charts. You don't even know how to get a full scene in focus.
>>4489691>let me explain why I'm autisticok, anon, thanks
>>4489701Cope harder. I simply have higher standards than you. You lower your own standards because you are a gearfag in the faggiest way possible. You do not even know how to use a camera.
>>4489701Uh man you sound like a pathetic faggot imo.It's not some cardinal sin to want things in focus and to like it when your mid-frame and corner sharpness is roughly the same.
>>4489701>noticing things is autistic! having standards is autistic!You are the loser white guy in the indian meme about the west glorifying mediocrity. Even pajeets laugh at you.>>4489690HAHAHAHAHAHAThe funniest part is, it's not just technical, you took a photo of the same fucking thing "EDC"ing your marginally smaller garbage camera, and it was a total snapshit because you attached no significance or purpose to your activity, you were just skulking around trying to hide a smaller camera from notice like a cringy faggot. As soon as you touch a marginally larger camera you have to justify it, and you take something more resembling a photo (but it would have been better in portrait orientation with more zoom, hence the 24-70 f4 and 24-120 f4 are the best lenses on a nikon)It is time for you to stop being a faggot entirelyBuy a canon R8 and 24-104 kit. Buy a 26mm pancake. It is light, it's unnoticeable, it's full frame quality, and everyone knows that people who have canon cameras are cool photographers.
>>4489772>26mmso you mean the solution to his "photos look like from phone" problem is to get the archetypical phone focal length?also that fag should ditch hist shitty micro four turds and get back into nikon. that one picture alone is better than all the other shit he posted
>>4489782phones used to be 28mm, then 24 or 25, some chink flasgships boast now 23mm, they re gettin wider and wider not sure why
why does our existence annoy them so much?
>>4489785your huge ego + your bad photography
>>4489787ego? i'm not the one gong to threads to prove someone right, HAHAHAholy crap
Now fuck off losers, nobody cares. Go complain about something else
>>4489785>one of the easiest cameras to snapshit with>ultra blurry>out of focus >poorly exposedIs this the true power of micro four turds?
>>4489795yeah it was underexposed, other than that fuck off
great shot I took
>>4489799Why does the entire right side of the image look like it is having a seizure?
>>4489800thank you for not whining about mft, i don't know why you feel that way
10 year old mft still crushing it
MFT crushing it rn, and the shills cant get past the captcha LOL
Don't like MFT? Fine, I have the solution - don't use it!But stop whining like beta bitches, nobody cares
>>4489805The oof house and trees on the right hurt my eyes to look at.
>>4489809yes it would be (much) better without the house and my car.. it gives it away
>>4489812>>4489799>mft is the snapshitters formatProven without a doubt
>>4489820why do you care then? just fuck off if it's not for you
>>4489821I do care and no.
>>4489822but why? surely there are other things you could spend your time on, instead of obsessing over a camera you don't car for?
>>4489823It doesn't seem like you care at all about photography, so why dont you take your own advice?I'm just providing some feedback on your zero effort snaps bro chill
>>4489824no you're not, you have some hang up about mft and are trying to ruin the thread
>>4489825Post a great photo and see what happens.
>>4489830nobody likes you, go away
>>4489832>NO. I will NOT post anything more than effortless and blurry snapshits to own those darn foolframers!Say please and may consider leaving.
>>4489833are yout here to troll or what? everything you write seems to be just to provoke
>>4489834My criticism has been fair and reasonable. Post a great photo and see what happens.
>>4489835you're on a mission to ruin the thread, for some reason.. i dont get it and have no interest in you. All of your snide comments, guess you get some kind of kick from it
>>4489837Honest critique will be provided regardless of how you feel.
>>4489839>honestIt’s the fuckhead who can’t tell full frame from m43 what a surprise
>>4489840>schizo copeYou could just post good photographs instead of disgustingly low effort snapshits.
>its that guy: look, I used a super shit full frame camera I found on ebay for $50 and a $50 kit zoom, and you couldn't tell it from the newest $1000 micro four thirds with a $1500 "f1.4" (f2.8) panaleica PRO prime lense>PROOF: FULL FRAME IS A WASTE OF MONEY! YOU CANT TELL!chartchads have been vindicated, actually.$50 12mp d700 = $1500 20mp om-5ii$50 f mount prime = $1500 om pro prime
>>4489844Normally lens issues don't bother me, but these mft pictures have remarkably soft corners and ridiculously busy bokeh, especially on the corners. Almost like the projection is too small for the tiny sensor... Scamlensera? Yeah.
>>4489844>Psssh, I cut down my grams to a almost hand holdable 500 by spending $3000 on a fashionable purse camera!I will never understand their logic. Just use the blob. Anyone who cares how they look in public outside of just dressing like a normal person is a massive faggot anyway.
>>4489863They will never take a picture of their wrists even if it demonstrated the exceptional skin tones of an mft sensor. (It doesn't have exceptional skin tones) Never seen a single portrait posted on the m43gen either lol
>>4489863using a blob immediately outs them as a photographer and then people talk to them and even ask to see their photos>oh>wow>this fucking sucks>hey wait is that my girlfriend
>>4489866no joke im a pretty shitty photographer and whenever i use my blob in public i unironically get way more normies asking to get pictures taken of them with their iphones its cute but too bad for them i suck
>>4485342Mft is basically just paying full frame prices to save a minute amount of absolute weight for the same pictures that can be taken with a canon 90d/nikon d7500 or d500. mft autofocus is often worse than these cameras, and it tends to always look slightly worse irl (equivalent settings are rate in practice, and mft sensors actually run dark so their meters always recommend an extra 1/2-1 stop of exposure to get identical looking raws)yes, even with lenses. there’s a relative difference but in either case it doesn’t matter, and the only way mft gets smaller is by using a super shit f11-16 equivalent zoom.
>>4489874Micro four thirds battery life is super fucking shit compared to APS-C DSLRs too. For wildlife n sheeit that really matters.
>>4489874>>4489877get psychiatric help
>>4489866Pro tip: If you don't suck massive turds, you only hear the last line>>4489870Same. The irony is there's very little you can do with a phone that they couldn't do themselves. The one thing I will do in these scenarios is try and change up the angle so it's not just some simple eye-level shot.I bring a small 3x2 printer with me to conventions and events and just take the photo with my own stuff then give them a print. It takes 60 extra seconds and it's a good conversation starter. The people I've handed little prints out to are normally stoked and my GF now brings her instax with her way more often.
>>4489886>stories from /r/thathappenedyou idiots are like those fags that get motorcycles to impress the ladies and then realize that no one cares about their motorcycle. (the only attention they get is from gay boomer bears).it's like the idiots who say they get complimented for their retro style cameras (zf, fuji x, etc). it's all in their head. no normie cares if you have a blob, a small camera or a black dildo in your hand.
>>4489890Yeah, imagine the mental illness that makes you lug around a printer in public and hand out prints to strangers. What happens is people get confused, think "fucking autistic retard" and throw the print into the next garbage bin.It's only a conversation starter later at home when they tell their friends/family that some autistic fat retard was handing out prints and they feel lucky that they didn't get stabbed. lol.
>>4489891last time someone did that i kept the print i thought it was really cutestop being so negative anon its bad for your mental health
>>4489890>>4489891>brings up reddit>nothing ever happensYou austists do realise the printer is the size of a smartphone right? I'm a white guy who isn't balding so I don't automatically repulse the general public, which must be an unknown feeling to you guys. At conventions and events there are plenty of outgoing people who want to interact. I don't bring my blob around to larp, I bring my blob for my own benefit, and when I'm printing my own stuff it's not hard to just say "hey would you like one as well?".Holy shit, touch grass.
Can anybody tell me what m43 is about aside from the aspect ratio?I just see cameras and that are just as expensive, heavy and big as competitors with larger sensors.My 10 year old FF camera I bought for 500 bucks does way better and doesn't even have the stacked sensor.
>>4489895>excuses why my repulsive behavior is OKseethe and cope more, incel
>>4489899>posts autistic noise chartthere's a gear thread for fags like you. m43 is about joy-sparking cameras and lenses. not about low iso 10lbs plastic blobs with edge to edge sharpness that impress pixel peeping chartfags
>>4489901But my camera weighs the same, has the same size and costs a quarter of an OM1 mkII while taking better pictures.
>>4489901>noooo you're not allowed to prove my camera is objectively shit. You're only allowed to say it's subjectively shit!
>>4489903cope>>4489905seethe
>>4489907>I posted a snapshit building corner that means I win! M43 Wins!The special needs child flails his arms around in victory
>>4489908>>4489903No, anon. Giving OMS the KyoAni treatment will not magically improve the camera marketI don't know how you ever reached this conclusion from watching camera reviews
>>4489908>nophoto.txtyeah didn't read
>my joy comes from pressing a button!>who cares if the images are worse than a cellphone? I held a tiny camera I paid too much for and pressed a button. >It sparked joy! Dammit! Joy comes at a premium these days.>NO. STOP CALLING THEM BLURRY SNAPSHITS!m43 experience in a nutshell.
>>4489916You won't be arrested for buying a used m43 body, anon. Stop acting like you will
>>4489917>You need more gear to experience JOY. >The m43 button press is true JOY!>The image does not matter because the JOY comes from pressing the botton!
>>4489916imagine being such an shut in incel that you can't comprehend the concept of joy from physical actionare you fat or just depressed? or both?
>>4489918corrector are you getting paid for results? if so it's understandable that you've got such a bleak outlook on life
>>4489918>idiot gearfag nophoto thinks results are dictated by gearcolor me surprised. I bet you'd be a great chef if you just got the right sauce pan lol
>>4489920>>4489919>why does this picture look worse than a cellphone? Why not use a cellphone that is lighter and produces better looking images?>The joy of m43 comes from holding the camera and pressing the button!>The image does NOT matter! The print does NOT matter! >What are you? Some sort of fat joyless autist that wants image quality better than a cellphone?The m43 cope.
>>4489921Your post >>4489901 is the ultimate gearfag post.
>>4489922>nophoto>only joy is to compare noise chartsyou're still in the wrong thread. here we have accepted the joy that comes from shooting m43for joyless gearfagging please go to your /gear/ fag thread
>>4489924>I must cope to feel joy.Lol. Thanks for proving my point.
