Mirrorless is cooked editionPrevious thread: >>4497651
>>4499288Lmao
>>4499288>have meme camera>want a meme camera that's close enough in quality that theres no real reason to get itsuffering
>>4499291i love AI so much, its so much better than the real thing
I really fucking hate modern phone cameras. Everything looks like fucking paintings with the amount of AI slop processing denoising involved.
>>4499288I'm old enough to remember there was a time where the difference between the camera on a phone and a DSLR was night and day. Now there's barely a difference for 99% of the time. What a time to be alive.
>>4499306>Now there's barely a difference for 99% of the time.The moment you crop it or view it on anything larger than a smartphone screen it's night and day. You can't beat physics, no matter how much AI cope you use.
I really want Nikon to make a 35mm f2 SE lens. Same size as the 28 and 40 se lenses. Or make a 35mm 1.8s mkii that's shorter. I can live with it being f2 instead of 1.8 if they can make it smaller.I don't like 40mm, but I love 35mm and 50mm.I like the 28 too, but I would prefer a really good, but compact 35mm with autofocus that's at least f2.Is it unrealistic to have a lens like that in that size that also has nice image quality?The 1.2 is comically large and expensive.
Can someone tell Samyang that, yes, actually, you CAN put aperture rings on autofocus lenses. Might sound like alien technology to them, but it indeed is possible.
>>4499313>I still can't be happy and have to yearn for something that doesn't exist instead of using all the many options that do 90% or that I wantSad
>>4499336>No you can't have a dream lens while also using the stuff you already have, or talk about gear in the gear threadYou don't get anywhere in life with stagnating mindsets like that anon. I'm simply thinking out loud about what I hope Nikon will release in a compact and affordable 35mm lens.
>>4499338You don't get anything in life whining about stuff that doesn't exist because you can't be happy with what you have already either
>>4499339I literally said I'm using the stuff I already have without whining you dweeb. I have a modest amount of gear and use all of it. I'd just like a good and compact native z mount 35mm lens around f2
>>4499339It's not that deep, why are you bitching? It doesn't even affect u LMAO
>>4499338Nikons entire business model right now is 30% selling pixel peeping excellence to snoy gmaster prosumers that cant afford snoy gmasters, 70% pretending to be a cinematography brandThe zf is another df, an ill considered poorly designed one off that will never fit into their overall philosophyThe zr is not a sign of a consumer/hobby photography trend. It is a copy of the sony fx series video body. There is no shutter and viewfinder having version to come. Japan HATES you if you think hobby photographers deserve good small full frame kit like they had before DSLRs. To them, it is insulting. It’s like a rice farmer saying he deserves all three swords meant for a samurai. It is like a catholic buying a shinto shrine and turning it into a lunch cafe. They genuinely despise what you want. They will only do the bare minimum to take your money and leave you disappointed so you either get into pro gear and justify the absurd expense and bulk by being a pro (or look as stupid as they think you are!) or downgrade to the disposable crop sensor shitter they think you deserve. The fact that the a7c line exists at all is a miracle… and they hobble it with arbitrarily worse points than the aps-c cameras because again, if you think hobbyists and casuals deserve to use full frame on the daily, they hate you as much as they hate the idea of a farmer peasant using a famous katana to chop wheat. Their culture is based entirely on disdain and hatred creating submission and apologetics socially and pure hedonism sexually. The japanese… are not good people.
>>4499288> It's 2022> Have a Canon 5Dmk4 at 2x the exposures it's rated for> tell myself: use it until it breaks before upgrading> fast forward 2026, fucking 4 years later> 5x the exposures it's rated for> still not brokenwhen will this thing fucking break I want to upgrade
>>4499348Why do you need to upgrade? U can shoot professionally easily with a 5d2...
>>4499346starting to think this guy is sexually attracted to the a7csnoysexual
>>4499348>>4499349I would upgrade for the sole reason that at 5x exposures it could to break any moment. Kinda sucks taking it on vacation or to a shooting knowing maybe you have only pics of the first half of the vacation.
I saw a video where some guy boughted a 5d something or the other that had been used for taking photos of people at some amusement park ride and it had a bazillion exposures and worked perfectly fine. A lot of it has to do with how it is used as well. A lot of those "my (brand name) camera broke after just x amount of shots" type posts are probably quite often from clumsy people who do stupid things with their gear but won't admit it.
>>4499349Please tell me you're the only one glazing the 5Dmk2 constantly here, right? There cannot be multiple autists with this autistic hyperfixation.There simply is no reason to shoot a 5Dmk2 in 2026. The last-gen of DSLRs is so laughably cheap on the used market. Why would you use a worse camera willingly.
>>4499355Yeah, my first camera was a 3-digit canon. I think 500D or 600D or something like that. It literally had more digits than what it was rated for. Orders of magnitude quite literally.
>>4499356yip, the gear problem is solved
>>4499309>t.pretentious boomer that hasnt used a smartphone in 20 years
>>4499372even the best phones today struggle to even really resolve 5-7mp, mine does boatloads of ai upscaling on close up or macro shots, anything further than a few meters doesnt get ai upscaling or not at all and looks like shit even b4 reaching 80% peep, also not a fan of the oil painting or melting plastic look, i feel like the nokia N8 or that there old kodak 3.2mp put out far more pleasing images than modern phones
>>4499291>>4499299>hauling around a big-ahh, overpriced unc mirrorless with a 35mm prime like it’s 2012>tryina get a close-up of the moon>gotta go home, fire up the dusty unc desktop>open that “free trial” that’s been charging you $19.99 a month>just to crop the pic into a crispy 0.3MP potato>all that just for the moon to look like a blurry skittle in the sky
>>4499374Is this the true power of the boomer zoomer?
>>4499353Shutter counts are a meme, 5D shutters dont break unless you do something wrong or ur talking about the mk3. >>44993565d2s are the best price per performance period. End of story. You can bitch and moan all you want but it just makes you look assmad and retarded. Sorry. Just hard facts.
>>4499386>You can't use an easily identified and understood statistic to make broad assumptions about something just because it's easy.Hold on anon, you'll be subject to bitchfits for the rest of the thread if you make a statement like that. Next you'll tell me that my 24/7 webcam DSLR set to 4k30 with 13 on the shutter count is actually NOT worth 90% of its new value.>5d2s are the best price per performance periodAnd yet every second anon itt will complain that it's too old and big. Big sad.
>>4499388>complain that it's too old and big. Big sadI don't understand this. No builder who carries a drill all day buys a drill based on weight. The difference between a really lightweight mirrorless camera and a really heavy DSLR is still under 1kg. What are you people eating? A healthy adult male should not even be able to discern the difference in weight between these two things. I stg you niggas are buying carbon fibre cutlery cus silverwear is too heavy.
>>4499306I think they used to pretty much be on par with each other in the 2010s but I think the gap in quality has increased again because of mirrorless and full frame being more common. My Pixel 2XL and a DSLR of the same time was pretty much the same image but phones have now started relying more on AI and other fuckery that oversharpens images (so they look like oil paintings now) and DSLR is gradually being replaced with mirrorless full frame and aps-c. But put either one on a phone and it doesn't matter. Loading it up on a laptop or anything with a screen bigger than 8" and you'll see a lot of diffeneces. Also every phone camera seems to be HDR by default now, whereas it was optional before.
>>4499313Yeah me too. Along with a z7iii that has exspeed 7 AF. Nikon is a dumb company obsessed with birders though.
Zf + Leica adapter, X-pro, or pony up the extra $$$ for a real m240? Let's be real, I could tell you a bunch of shit about all the different styles of photography I do, but I want something for travel, day in the life stuff of friends/family, portraits, etc. To the extent that I'll ever do any pro work it's gonna be portraits, maybe weddings. No sports, no super fast action, no backs of heads, street photography is tired in the smartphone eraI like the manual controls, don't mind manual focus, but the added versatility on the Zf seems like it could be a plus, if I ever actually need autofocus, zoom lenses, etc. I know I should just buy a d780 and some af-s lenses and never look at a photo forum again, but I just can't vibe with the form factor. Should probably just learn to shoot film, but idk
>>4499416Just read this as "I want to look cool to zoomettes, maybe do some photo work for people I know at the gym, but for some autistic reason I refuse to buy a Sony or a normal camera"
>S O U L in 2026Canon chads we are so back!!
>>4499299Of all the sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these, "cANON was right again".>tfw you realize the Moon landing was made up to cover up some shady shit (Vietnam, Kennedy assassination) they did in the 60s just like they were now keeping everyone distracted with much Epstein files so that they'd care less about getting into another war
>>4499346>Their culture is based entirely on disdain and hatred creating submission and apologetics socially and pure hedonism sexually. The japanese… are not good people.As opposed to it being centered around niggers? You burn cities down for criminal niggers who die in altercations with the police. People say Martin Luther and you don't think of the father of the Protestant Reformation, you think of the nigger. You have made up holidays for niggers. A month a year, your entire curriculum at school is devoted to niggers. You listen to nigger "music". You see a classic European folk tale and when you make it into a movie, you change it to be about niggers.
>>4499444Who are you quoting? Did you lose your trip again, cANON? You deranged lunatic, you
>>4499446>>>/pol/
>>4499416I wanted to reply in prev post but I failed to finish the 4 captcha challenges. We are in a bad situations where camera manufactors don't hire actual good designers/engineers and instead keep their shit ass ugly products to build upon. Leica are the only ones that kinda manage to have some beautiful products, though too expensive for me as a poorfag. The Zf is fat and ugly if you take of the retro glasses. Especially with those huge ass Nikon lenses. Even the 40mmf2 looks like horse. Might be good with the adapter but then why not just buy the m240. Or safe a bit for the m10. Fuji is doing many things right (especially some years ago). I'm always on the fence of buying x-pro but when I look through 1000s of samples on flickr, the aspc photos always feel a bit flat and not as detailed. People tend to throw on their fancy film sims to hide that issue. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. But I'm sure I would always miss that extra bit of full frame IQ when editing in LR. On the other hand no one of my friends/family would see any difference. I'm shooting the Q2 now which is kinda perfect but obviously fixed lens. I'm missing that sweet 50mm focal length and not sure how to solve that issue. There is no other camera speaking to me. A fuji x-pro4 with a new full frame sensor, same body size as before and 2-3 small prime lenses would be a dream..>>4499418Yeah there are some people that enjoy their hobby, the tactile feel of a camera and of course also how it is designed and the experience. Let me guess, you are still wearing the same clothes your mother bought to you in middle school?
>>4499465Pentax
>>4499470Come on bruh, what is this abomination.Last cool Pentax was the Q. Despite the tiny sensor the image quality wasn't much worse than todays fuji apsc
>>4499478>Yeah there are some people that enjoy their hobby, the tactile feel of a camera and of course also how it is designed and the experience>>4499416>No sports, no super fast action, no backs of heads, street photography is tired in the smartphone erayou are the primary audience for pentax, 2x when you realize vintage lenses from the 70s-90s are dirt cheap and "pentax gearfaggotry" means most of your lenses will be <$100 so its more passive addiction to ebay lurking.you can get a k-70/kf for $400 if you lurk hard enough, i sold my kf for $400 to fund a $900 k1ii purchase then bought a k-70 with a broken lcd from buyee for $100 + $40 screen a few months later. the real problem is the pricing. i wouldn't pay new pentax pricing lmao. join the cult.
>>4499416Zf is the best practical optionX-Pro's are good knock around / beater cameras
>>4499386>5d2s are the best price per performance periodNot true. The 5Dmk3 and 5Dmk4 is practically free on the used market, even the R5mk1 are beginning to hit the used market. There is no reason to not use these cameras with much better sensors and AF.By your logic you could also shoot with a 550D. Why would anyone do that? The sensors are dogshit.
>>44994925D2 = $1505D4 = $1000Obviously you don't shoot professionally, or have a job, otherwise you'd know that running a business is about keeping costs down. Mark 2 has enough specs that someone like you will hit a skill ceiling before you reach limits of what it will do. Pretty simple.
>small flashes for small camerasi used the godox im30 for a while i found it for $30 and it worked great. but then it stopped working. i don't see anyone complaining about these dying for no reason, so i don't know what happened. unit does not power on with fresh batteries. i dunno. what are the other similar flashes that can be had for around $30? i could buy another one of these or i could look at something else
>>4499350a7c and variants are unique in the niche they fill:compact rangefinder-shaped with EVF and gripFull frame yet smaller than comparable offerings like the GX8, which is m4/3.Smaller than the Z30 which is APS-C and has no EVF.Smaller than the S9 which is full frame but no EVF or mechanical shutter or grip.Unfortunately the a7c has Sony's firmware which is programmed by people who apparently have never used a camera outside of automatic modes, and don't bother to test the features they implement.
>>4499496>its the exposure preview guyYou’re literally the only complainerNo one expects evf previews to be accurate in low light. They aren’t on nikon either. Every photographer ever is used to expecting an overly bright, long/high iso exposure without compensation in the dark. No one uses mf assist with bright monitoring either (neither even exist on nikon and many photographers consider them normally annoying and useless niche features that do not get left on)The real issue is sony r&d staff is actually photographers, not engineers, so rather than autistically going through everything they test the cameras as experienced photographers would and create something that confuses and angers newbies who have yet to settle in to the correct way to do things, turning on bright monitoring only for certain situations and only using mf assist in the studio or for repeated still lifes and landscapes. On nikon everyone hated mf assist so badly they included zoom in and zoom out buttons. You know you got a skill issue when your sony issues are also nikon issues
>>4499505Holy cope. Buy a fucking ad, snoycel.
>Godox iT32 TTL Mini Flash with X5L Trigger Kit for Leicawhen THE FUCK does this ship to my hjouse
>>4499509>Godox iT32 TTL Mini FlashDamn, that things looks nice. I like those hard plastic gel accessories too. Now I'm rethinking the V480 I went with.
>>4499509>No lock switch >Can be easily bumped offwtf were they thinking?
>>4499511>gel accessoriesno don't do it>looks niceits the concept from the Lightpix Q20II but as a Godox flash. i think it will be very good>>4499513i was thinking this also. they say it doesn't bump off easily though, because of how the socket requires you to pull the thing straight out. but i dunno. in any case i am usually putting the flash in my pocket when i am not shooting
>>4499465NGL, I'm not even gonna deny the "impress zoomettes and take portraits of my friends" thing. What's so wrong with that? Fully agree about the unhinged new captchas, seriously killing my rate of wanting to comment. Your opinion is also kinda where I'm at with the Zf, the Z lenses just look ridiculous - and unless I explicitly want to do weddings or vlogging, idk if I entirely need it. I guess I'd be able to rent a big bazooka 400mm for the occasions that I want to take sports photos. Definitely considering the Fujis, especially with the current trend towards lower-fi photos, "the retro look" etc, it's not the highest priority to have the absolute latest and greatest tech. I could just get an x-pro 2 and a 35/1.4 and ignore the rest. Really, I should just suck it up and shoot film, but dev costs are crazy, home dev is annoying, and you end up doinking around on the computer anyway. >>4499491That's a large collection. Also agree with where you're at, Zf is max practicality at the cost of some "romance" or whatever, x-pro is probably more than I need to do travel photos and casual portrait shoots, and Leica is what the heart wants.
>>4499505>No one expects evf previews to be accurate in low light.The entire selling point of moving from optical viewfinders to mirrorless with EVF was the ability to get accurate preview images "what you see is what you get".>sony r&d staff is actually photographersiphone photographers.
>>4499528>The entire selling point of moving from optical viewfinders to mirrorless with EVF was the ability to get accurate preview images "what you see is what you get".To a certain extent. Depth of field, focus, and framing will be perfect, exposure will be reasonably accurate in most cases. However it does have limitation because it has to update the display many tens of times per second.
>>4499534>Depth of field [preview]Is a feature in my 1992 SLR>focusBasically never misses in said SLR>framing will be perfect98.5% viewfinder coverage vs 100% is hardly a big upgradeThe selling points of mirrorless is weight, size, and video bullshit. The EVF is just a necessary evil because without the mirror box you have to have some way to show the photog what he's looking at. You could literally turn mirrorless into a rangefinder and there'd be minimal difference.
>>4499528A mirrorless cant provide THE preview without a super noisy image or a lot of lag, usually both, below a certain brightness. It happens on all brands. And photographers never noticed because DSLRs basically shot the same in that scenario, and ultra dark shooting is both uncommon and slower paced.
>>4499374>hauling around a big-ahh, overpriced unc mirrorless with a 35mm prime like it’s 2012>tryina get a close-up of the moonWho would ever do this? If you want a picture of the moon you use a telephoto. It's the fucking moon, you can photograph it from anywhere, it's not going to run away.
>>4499540Wrong. A 35mm focal is perfectly suitable for moon photography just like it is for any other form of photography. Just use your feet to zoom. It's really not that difficult.
Why is the ZF so much more expensive than the Z5 II? Aren't they basically the same camera? Is it just popularity?
>>4499540>heres your casual edc bro!>oh dont forget your uwa and normal lens too!
>>4499546You don't have to edc it, you have the moon at home.
>>4499509So its not a low profile flash anymore like the it30pro... I would rather just use first party speedlite
Is a Nikon Z6 a good buy if it's under $500? Are there any nasty catches?
>>4499554it's smaller than the v350 and it has a wireless transmitter built into it and it has TTL and high speed sync with Leica which is almost unheard of
>>4499556Heaps of flashes have wireless transmitters built in. I don't know why they think it needs to split in half to be able to do this.
>>4499494>5D2 = $150 5D4 = $1000 Obviously you don't shoot professionallyif you shoot professionally with a 5Dmk2 you are scamming your customers.If it's your job at least have the decency to get an R5mk2. This is embarrassing for you.
>>4499563>t. le professional hobbyistNope. Most customers are as dumb as you and can't tell the difference. You also need to sell your gear and buy something more appropriate for your skill level. Otherwise you'll never reach pro-level talent. Sorry, just hard facts. Pretty simple.
>>4499564notice how you don't have any arguments and need to pretend to know my skill level? Cameras that are TWO generations behind ARE the entry level for hobbyist.Camera bodys that are older than that (like a 5Dmk3 or older) are not even appropriate for entry level amateurs - they're for e-waste. Or for vacations with a high likelihood of accidentally smashing them against a rock wall.For professional work you should at least be on mirrorless fullframes by now.My bet is you're a smelly indian or other 3rd world country where 150 bucks is actually a lot for you. For middle class europeans or americans, $5k for a camera body + lens is a normal enthusiast hobby budget. I know lots of people that spend way more on their home theatre or equestrian or other such hobby.
>>4499565>pretend to know my skill levelI do know your skill level because you can't articulate what spec or feature the newer camera has that you require for your shooting that merits an upgrade. I say require, but really we both know it's GAS as you'll never be a professional, like me.
>>4499535>Is a feature in my 1992 SLRAnd isn't all that accurate, especially shallower than around f/2.8 on any DSLR with AF>Basically never misses in said SLRAs above, if you're trying to manually focus with a lens faster than f/2.8 with the stock focussing screen you're going to have to switch to live view. Also it relies on the focussing screen being accurately calibrated.>98.5% viewfinder coverage vs 100% is hardly a big upgradeThere are many bodies that are 95%, basically any with a pentamirror instead of a prism. However you're missing the point. I never actually claimed these are massive improvements, simply saying what is and isn't accurate with an EVF.
>>4499565Just skip the arguing and ask them to show their work
>>4499545It's not that much more expensive, but yeah, basically same camera internally with just a very different body design, which you are paying for that brass. I dislike the "entry level FF" body designs of a Z5 compared to Z6/7/8.Zf launched for $2k in 23, and Z5II launched for $1.7k in 2025.
>>4499528>The entire selling point of moving from optical viewfinders to mirrorless with EVF was the ability to get accurate preview imagesFor beginners yes, but EVFs offer a lot more than just that. If you aren't a beginner, exposure preview isn't really relevant.
>>4499495fuck it i ordered an it20
>>4499584>If you aren't a beginner, exposure preview isn't really relevant.Actually the opposite. Beginners shoot on auto modes and trust the camera to select the exposure.
>>4499616If you need to see the preview to know what exposure settings to use, you are still a beginner.
>>4499632>>4499616Mirrorless users confirmed unable to rotate apple in their mind.
>>4499508Notice that the Snoy shill went from denying that the problem exists to saying that Snoy's broken preview doesn't matter.kek
>>4499637Now be an honest person and post some positive anecdotes too
>>4499637lol that X-M5 group puts our RPT to shame, thank you for sharing
>>4499632>>4499634>broken basic features in your camera is actually a good thing! What retarded mental gymnastics is this?
Recommend a cheap DSLR for someone coming from a mirrorless snoy without viewfinder.
>>4499647>Yes, I am a beginner and I need my crutches
>>4499655Nikon D69
look at my latest win /p/ i finally get to use my m42 adapter next is a helios and a takumar 50mm f1.4 (to be fair i already have a fa 50mm 1.4)i cant tell if thats haze or just a dirty lens it looks like its on the top of the element
>>4499637>be pentax-chad>dont give a shit if it starts raininglel>>4499655Pentax K200D
>>4499667https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo61t5fH6Qw
>>4499667>>4499668Damage isn't always immediately apparent and appears later, which is why so many of these tests are crap.
>>4499670The only real way to test durability is to put peanut butter on a camera and let a dog lick it off.
>>4499670My OG K-3 got absolutely drenched shooting an event in the rain, out all day from 9:00 to 16:00, I used a basic WR zoom lens, not even AW. It was 10 years ago, the camera still works fine. Is a decade long enough for you?
Xiaomi 17 ultra or Power shot v1? Decide for me and I'll gift you a steam gift card
>>4499686Anecdotes of a camera surviving don't matter hereWe only care about some anecdotes of failure
>>4499718According to this board cameras are generally indestructible. No matter if you baby it and make 10x the exposures or throw it in a volcano. Also see:>>4499355>>4499686
>>4499657>just become a human light meter and calculate all combinations of shutter, aperture, ISO and ND filter, bro.>what? no, you can't use that photographic computer in your hand to predict what exposure will look like because that makes you a beginner. Also no camera is able to do that, it's not just Sony.
>>4499726To be fair the meter still works, there's just a limit to the exposure preview that only shows up in a few edge cases. In those cases it's no worse than a DSLR, but will still display a brighter image than an optical finder.
Interesting
>>4499726>I think exposure preview is the same thing as a meterBut also yes, once you shoot enough, you have a good idea of what settings you should be using in a given situation. If you can't ballpark within a stop or two, you need to pay more attention to what you're doing.
>>4499667>>4499668Nope. Nikon is Number One. They've been the choice for explorers, adventurers and the army throughout the film Era. And they only got better when it came time to switch to Digital. There the most Reliable camera. Full Stop. End of Story. Pros shot Nikon. Nothing Else.
>>4499705Definitely the Xiaomi 17 Ultra. You'll actually use it as you'll have it on you at all times. Better yet get the Leica edition. Better better yet get the photography kit with the grip and shutter button.>please send gift card to anon_from_p@proton.me :)
>>4499743Does it? From what I remember the exposure meter was jumping a few stops with one dial click at the boundary of the problem range.
>>4499607reporting here that it's fine. I guess I just wish it was brighter but it's tiny. so I guess that's how it goes or whatever or something. the im30 was brighter and better and this thing doesn't have a manual dial. it has stupid little clicky buttons and it's tiny and it's not bright. I kind of think the im30 is better. it's too bad that mine broke
>>4499781I forgot the picture I was going to attach. it's not my picture that I took. it's not my camera or my fat hands but it's the same flash. this is what it looks like. sort of you can see it in this picture
>>4499774as a person with a Leica camera I would be embarrassed to have this as a cell phone
>>4499774Sorry but you sound like a shill. If you were honest, you'd know that tons of reviewers all say that the Leica edition is more cumbersome than the real one, with no real added benefits bar the M9 mode. The rotating thing is apparently VERY easy to move which automatically opens the camera app. You can imagine how annoying that is
>>4499788>phone cameras suck because they dont have physical controls!!!>implement physical controls>noooooo you cant do that!!!
>>4499637I saw some video of a guy using a Canon during some sport event in the rain and the screen sperged out after getting some water on it. Everything else seemed to work but that screen was completely ruined. I also saw another where water on the hot shoe also caused the camera to completely spergout (though he did remove the shoe cover and exposed it to rain so that was his own dumbass move). How a camera holds up against water is just a complete game of chance. There's also the mold issue, that shit may not appear for a long time.
>>4499782Wow, my plastic DSLR has a better flash built into
>>4499792Mold only appears if it remains wet for a long time. When I shot in the rain I took care to wipe off my camera afterwards and only open/take off the lens when it was dry. Furthermore when I zoomed in I also wiped off the water from the barrel before zooming it back in. Just a quick wipe but it goes a long way seeing everything held up since then, and it wasn't the last time I had it out in the rain.
>>4499796Sure, but there are some unlucky factors that can have water get in and there's also just max level stupidity. Worst I've seen is someone change their lens in the rain, I felt anxious just watching it.
>>4499798That is not the camera's fault
>>4499803Yeah I know, I just meant that as an example of being stupid. My point still stands about other unlucky circumstance like water in the screen or other weird spots.
>>4499792>How a camera holds up against water is just a complete game of chanceIt's not luck, just use something with a legit IP rating. Don't be an idiot.
Thoughts on a Nikon AF-S DX 35mm 1.8F?Is it worth it?
I want a video camera despite not recoding videos at all and having no real ideas or need to do soWhy am I such a goysumer
China number one!!!1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeHU2cyhnoghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxkJ8z_3gDAI kinda NEED this thing ngl, looks smooth
>>4499821You don't need a video camera if you already have a DSLR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSxIbZFsn-gplust things like this exist >>4499823plus external microphones exist, even if you can't connect it directly you can make it work
>>4499416you're still flip flopping over this? just buy them all and sell the ones you don't like. you'll never know for sure until you shoot a given system for a few months. xpro and leica m are pretty limiting if you're not doing street/documentary, btw. also, you should pick up film. it's easy to learn if you already know photography. the major consideration is the convenience and cost of processing.side question: what cameras do you shoot currently?
>>4499823the shutter speeds you can hold in your hands with a camers that has OIS + a DJI handheld gimbal is insane anyway
>>4499416Bought a Zf two months ago and couldn't be happier. It got me looking at vintage lenses too. I'm eying some of those old Nikon AiS lenses that can be had for almost no money.I wouldn't go x-pro or aps-c in general. I was not fond of how the image looked, so I went back to full frame. The new mirrorless bodies are so small and not that much more expensive it throws the whole price/size advantage aps-c cameras had out the window.It's all individual taste etc. and some people take great photos regardless, but I would strongly advise not going crop sensor. The Zf was great right from the first shot.>>4499495>>4499607>>4499781I use the it30pro on my Zf and think it's absolutely brilliant. I plan on using it as a flash trigger when I get an off camera flash+umbrella setup for portraits and stuff soon. It's such a great little flash. My favourite camera accessory by far. The only negative thing I can say about it is the wheel feels very flimsy, but I only use the touch screen so no worries. The other buttons and diffuser slide thing feel solid enough to not worry about being tossed into a bag if you're in a hurry.
>>4499835Based
>>4499794if my plastic camera had a flash in it I wouldn't complain that sounds cool>>4499835 yes the it30 pro looks very good
> nikon d750Just noticed a very low buzz when camera is on, like gpu coil whine but in camera. I hear it clearly in silent room with my right ear, from the battery upper side, is this normal, is this related to hardware or battery?
>>4499877I use the Godox TT350, it is a full size flash with the fully articulating head and is pretty nice. Has TTL flash metering and everything.
>>4499883Do you hear it with a different battery? are the battery terminals dirty or corroded perhaps? My other guess would be the mirror actuator buzzing which is not a good sign.
>>4499887new battery is on the way, going to need a spare anyway, if thats a mirror actuator is that a big issue? this fucker is less than month new to me with 100k actuations for 500 bucks
>>4499885>Godox TT350my primary workhorse is the v350 its the same except with a battery and much faster recharge time. i recommend it to anyone its really good i like it
>>4499770I'm happy they still care to develop and advertise lenses that aren't f2.8 dildos zooms. Goinng to replace my m43 gear one lens at a time.
>>4499461He's not conpletely wrong; in that Americans and Europeans just killed their photo industry, so theresn't much to compare Jap industry to.
>>4499667I've taken my K-1 out in rainstorms with no problems, but I dropped it 3 feet once and it broke a circuit board and had to be sent out for repair.
I desire a 40~45mm justasgood poorfag cope lens to emulate a q3 43thinking 'bout the z 40 f/2 or the rf 45 f/1.2
>>449996343mm Limited, can be had as low as $270-300 if you go for the older SMC and buy it from Japan join the cult. https://www.pentaxuser.com/article/battle-of-the-43mm-lenses---leica-vs-pentax-2304
>>4499970Why does it always have to be a cult with you white americans?
>>4499973im brown and because you have to be delusional to shoot pentax in the 2020s
im thinking about this one. should i get it? any anon here got it and maybe has opinions on it?
I have a Leica Q-P and I love it so much that I thought upgrading to the Q2 might be the best move ever. Now I have the Q2 which looks worse from outside, is heavier, needs expensive uhs-ii SD cards, files are gigantic and a pain to edit. I never crop my photos, I never shoot in the rain. Should I just sell the Q2 again and be happy with the Q-P? The only thing I'm worried is that at some point there are some failures or so because this camera is soon a decade old.
>>4499970>>4499973>>4499980yeah well i'm not going to shoot pentax in the 2020s so it's either going to be the r6iii or z6iii
>>4499818>Thoughts on a Nikon AF-S DX 35mm 1.8F?Really good lens and really cheap from what I recall when I got it. You could also just get a used one if you want to get it cheaper.
>>4499818My favorite lens on my D3400. It's just good.
>>4499374Is this a joke? Because zoomers and gen anus are actually this retarded.
>>4499995I would not have upgraded unless I needed the resolution. the original Q cameras are extremely solid and I still see them all the time
bought new toyyes I know there are better cameras for the price, dont careDumbest shit though it being a homage to the original MX and not having a viewfinder
>>4499994From that photo, it looks alright to me, but also like it'll cost way more than it should because it's some legacy brand that some war photographers used in the 70's and 80's.
>>4500030yeah its thinktankhttps://www.thinktankphoto.com/products/retrospective-backpack-15
>>4499994Looks nice on the product photo but these box-like backpacks look absolute trash in real life plus that flap on top won't protect your gear much if you are caught out in a rain.I used Lowepro Flipside 400AW but it fell apart and the new ones design is shit so what I did is I walked into the nearest photo store and bought a backpack I like. It is a Manfrotto Backloader, opens up like the Flipside and looks like an ordinary backpack.
>>4500039apparently the canvas that its made out of is coated with a water resistant coating + you get the rain cover as with any other bag.
>>4500040What do you think how gore-tex is made? Companies just dropped the brand name that's all. PFAS acts like soap and dissolved in water, that is how the water resistant coating is applied then precipitate on the fabric and turns inert, non soluble. the rest is thrown out into the sewer and into nature. Paper cups are made the same way BTW also frying pans.
copped this and put 3 rolls through it without testing it yes im retarded
>>4500043what now? i mean i watched the tests on youtube and the guy splashed the top with water. i assume 2 layers of that canvas should be enough for light rain, and if not then there's always the rain cover. i may be wrong tho
updates on camera that whines when onbattery swap has no difference, this nikon still has a little buzz when turned on, contacted nikon for this issue, will see
>>4500046Why would that be retarded? If the seals look ok and the shutter is working theres not really anything else that the camera can do to fuck up your film. Its a Cds meter so it shouldnt break.
Is there any efficient way to use Nikon's wifi connectivity for live view through a smart device? The process of>Turn on Wifi connection on camera>Enter app on smart device>Choose Remote Photography>Select SSID of camera from menu>Allow a few seconds for it to connect>Start shootingis way too involved when you have to repeat every step of the process if you navigate away from the app or if the camera goes to sleep.
>>4500046Cool, I'm thinking about getting one too after I got into Nikon. Would be cool to have those nice AiS lenses that I could use on the F3 and adapt on a Z mount too.
>>4500088that's what im doing now. i have an ftz adapter for my z8. I just bought a cheapy 3rd party one and it works fine
>>4500085Depends on the wifi procedure implemented. On my K-3 OG the wifi Flucard was the only option for tethering, you could see the liveview but was buggy as hell. When it worked it worked beautifully.
>>4500019lmao they put a dinky little flash instead of EVF
>>4500098It's from 2013 but I agree, even an OVF or just a hotshoe would've been better
I was helping my dad clean up the house and he gave me all his old camera gear. Can anyone help me figure out what ive got here? The nikon does not have a model name i can see.The canon says canonet ql17 on the top and G-III ql on the front.Brown box is a kodak reflex. Not pictured is also an old camcorder. Custom electra automatic DeJur amsco corp ? Everything needs to be cleaned throughly. They were covered in dust or in a hard case with disintegrating foam.
>>4500100>The nikon does not have a model name i can see.That's a late model Nikon FM. It says FM and then the serial number on the back just below the advance lever, its on the right side. That would probably be the best thing in the lot if it works. I've got one, they're pretty nice. I use it often. The QL17 is good too.The lenses are pretty average, you can check them for fungus by shining a torch up through the bottom of them (so the side with the words is facing you) and study the glass closely to see if there is anything that looks like little spider webs, spots or specs, or tree roots on the glass.
>>4500104>>4500100Sorry, its actually an early model FM, not a late model. You can tell by the locker around the shutter button.
>>4500085It's pretty shit on any camera I've tried, regardless of brand. It's a nightmare trying to use it at home when my phone wants to connect to my home wifi or when it bitches about how the wifi I'm connecting to has no internet when it does connect with the camera.
>>4500105>>4500104Wow, thank you anon! Im impressed you were able to identify so much from my crappy photo. It doesnt appear like anything is inside the lenses from what i can tell but its tough since they still have dust and foam caked on. Im a bit worried about how to clean them without causing any damage. The big lens is for far away shots obviously but i am unsure about the use case for the smaller ones. Im guessing one has to be a kind of general purpose but the which one is a mystery. Same with all the filters, besides being a filter i dont know much about them at all. The top down kodak is super cool. I didnt know cameras like that even existed.
>>4500108>Im a bit worried about how to clean them without causing any damage.How I clean cameras is I use baby wipes, you could also use a microfibre cloth and spray lens cleaner on it. Just dont use so much that its dripping, you dont want excess water or liquid of any kind to drip into the camera or inside your lenses. Make sure to wring them out before you start cleaning. You can use whatever damp-ish cloth you choose to use to floss and get in between the dials and other hard to reach areas. The FM is a pretty hardy camera, you should be fine. Also, when you open the film door (watch a video on the FM or read a manual to find out how to do this as theres a little locker you have to pull on at the same time as you pull upward on the rewind crank) do not touch the shutter blades. Its the thing that looks like a little garage door right in the middle of the camera, you can only see it when the film door is open. This goes for any camera, do not touch the shutter blades or curtain, they're extremely fragile. If they're really dirty (though they probably wont be because the film door shields them from dusty typically) use a hand blower. Its a little thing u can get from amazon, it looks like a douche, you squeeze it and a bit of air comes out. Dont blow on it yourself as you will spit on it. As for cleaning the lenses, follow the same steps I outlined earlier for the outside of the lens, and for the glass just follow Simon D'entremaunts lens cleaning guide on youtube. He explains how to precisely and easily clean them so they'll be ready to use.
>>4500108>>4500109>but i am unsure about the use case for the smaller ones The one that's currently on the FM is a zoom lens that goes from kinda wide to kinda telephoto, its a general purpose lens known as a mid range zoom. Going from left to right on the desk, the 50mm f/1.8 is a good, cheap standard prime lens, which means it doesnt zoom in or out. It has a bright aperture which is good for low light and shallow depth of field. The vivitar one is not a lens on its own, its a teleconverter, so you mount that on the camera, then your telephoto lens onto that, and it gives you more telephoto reach at the cost of light gathering ability. I cant really see what the next one is, but it looks like a wider angle prime lens with a f2.8 maximum aperture, so similar to the 50mm but wider and cant gather as much light. Then the telephoto zoom, useful for wildlife, or sports, wherever you cannot get close to your subject. Has a narrow maximum aperture so cannot gather as much light as the other lenses. This will make a lot more sense if you look up the exposure triangle or watch some videos about it.
>There are new rumors about a third small Nikon full-frame mirrorless camera without a viewfinder, designed for photography, that is expected to be announced in 2026.>No EVF>Full-frame camera>Similar to the ZR but designed for photography (not video)>Small, slim body (22-25mm thickness)ITS ABOUT FUCKING TIME SOMEONE MADE AN ACTUALLY SMALL FF MIRRORLESS CAMERA
>>4500120Sony did that with the A7C and gearfags bitched constantly about how putting a full frame sensor in a small body is a retarded idea.
>>4500121>A7C>actually smallPick one
>>4500123Ah yes, who would've thought a MFT would be smaller than a full frame.
>>4500123>a high end ff is bigger than literal ewaste? sony sucks!Sperg>>4500120too bad they only have 3 small lenses and they all sucksigma needs to save nikon with z mount i-series primes
>>4500123Lmao. Yeah and if I make the sensor even smaller I can just use my phone which is 1/4 the size of the panasoy.
More should be made of the usability of the phone as opposed to mirrorless. If you don't have your camera with big lens on it you don't get the photo. You always have your phone so use that. I have a $2000 camera set up that I haven't used forever since I got an old phone and just shoot video clips instead of photos. I love it, of course it could be better resolution and less jumpy but I'm getting so much stuff daily
>>4500098yeah I really like it otherwise but that part of it is just retarded
>>4500136I had mine for 7 years and I never used the flash.
>>4499372Boring answer: both are true.>smartphone photos look like ass on a monitor/printsIf you look at smartphone photos on a nice monitor (think 32" or so), the difference is very visible to a trained eye. If it's dark-ish, the difference is obvious on anything larger than a phone. Even with all the computational photography, night shots on smartphone look like ass.>smartphone photos look like ass on a monitor/printsBut it also doesn't matter, because unless you're doing commercial photography, most people now look at photos on their phone. Nobody is going to pixel peep there.That said, I have some family photos from last year that definitely wouldn't look as good from a smartphone, just because I shot them with a large-ass zoom lens and those focal lengths are not available on most phones. If you start zooming in that far with digital zoom, photos turn to ass very quickly.
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>>4500159Just to note the Pentax lens has the lens hood on
>>4500125>>4500130Did you miss the part of the rumor where it says it will literally be thinner than the mfturd? >Small, slim body (22-25mm thickness)
>>4500129>too bad they only have 3 small lenses and they all suckThere's plenty of small M-mount lenses that can be adapted.
> have d750 > shooting at night primarily> i'm cheaper that a hooker, like vintage lenses and shitIs there a reason to go mirrorless for low light performance? Can I use my vintage dirt with new cameras? Heard that battery is a big problem out there. Is there something better than d750 with a great price?
Just got this Leica D Lux 8. Really nice and small with a surprisingly good EVF for a camera of this size. It's really nice having a variable lens after using nothing but primes fora decade. Image quality blows my old E-M5ii out of the water (my previous M43 camera). My only issues are the power on time and zooming time.
I have an AF-P FX 70-300mm ED VR that's been having issues. I had it serviced twice while it was under warranty. I planned to replace it with a new z-mount telephoto lens, but there's so few attractive and affordable options. I sent the lens in to see what the estimate would be:>$292Is this normal? Do they just add an amount for each box you check? It only focuses at 300mm and sometimes wouldn't be recognized if you turned the camera on when it wasn't extended to 300mm, so I had checked 3 boxes that covered those issues. There's no local shop that handles repairs (they just send it to Nikon), and I don't think I should throw $300 at a clearly faulty lens. I don't even know if I want to spend the $20 to have them ship it back.I'd like to spend less than $1200 and have a minimum of 300mm in the range. I have an FTZ adapter, but would prefer Z-mount.>Tamron 70-300mm ($500)Has no VR. Might be okay on my Z5ii with IBIS, but not on my Z50 without>Tamron 150-500mm ($1200)VC, and nice range, but 2x+ the weight of my old lens. Might feel like too much on the Z5ii>Nikon F-mount 200-500mm ($1200)VR, but it's fucking huge.And that's all I see in this price range without going used and risking buying someone's faulty lens like mine. Any comments or suggestions?
>>4500121Americans constantly bitch about small cameras, because they are not suitable for fat greasy fingers.
>>4500120>Similar to the ZR but designed for photography (not video)The ZR already has a photo switch and several custom buttons. Sensor is fast enough so no banding in most situations. It's already a great photo camera if you are not into using flash. Imo the best hybrid you can get if you are looking for a compact design. I guess for a pure photo centric camera they may add a a 40+mp sensor, different button layout and mechanical shutter. But that may add weight and a bit of size.
>>4500200Get the Nikon 200-500, it is glorious and has weather sealing, the Tamron is a big dust pump. And the Nikon is sharper, way sharper.
>>4500200Also the 70-300 don't even consider it. For its sharpness or lack thereof its price is just a waste of money.
>>4500206>Imo the best hybrid you can get if you are looking for a compact design.The rumored camera has it as about half the size of the ZR. Not even comparable.
>>4500120>without a viewfinder, designed for photographywhat's the point? just use a smartphone if you don't need EVF
>>4500169You really think they're going to be able to make a body just 6-8mm thicker than the flange distance? The sensor and PCB would probably be close to 5mm alone, then a millimetre or two for the body, probably some material for heatsinking seeing as the sensor will be constantly powered, and then the thickness required for the display. Even with a fixed display it just ain't gonna happen.
>>4500169>rumor
>>4500120>It's fucking Nikon that ends up making a true full frame snoy NEX-5 successor 16 years laterHilarious if true
>>4500230Probably isn't since the original source is some Nikon ultra fan blog where his source is based on emails he receives.https://nikonrumors.com/2026/02/06/rumors-about-a-third-small-nikon-full-frame-mirrorless-camera-without-a-viewfinder-designed-for-photography-expected-in-2026.aspx/
>>4500219>what's the point? just use a samsung NX if you don't need EVFFTFY
>>4500207>Tamron is a big dust pumpSpecific to that lens or just by nature of external zooming? My neck was sore after a few days at the beach with the old set up, the 200-500 may alter my spine permanently at 3x the weight. The lens itself would need the strap rather than the camera.
>>4500233These large extending barrel lenses suck in a lot of air, if there is no weather sealing or it is not very good a lot of dust is going to end up between the lens elements in the extending part. Same for the Sigma 150-500/600. The ones with good sealing (the first party ones) are a lot less affected.
>>4500233Get the medium or large strap from Peak Design and attach one end to camera the other to the lens. Strap across your chest and you will carry it all day. I have a similar setup.
>>4500241NTA but is it pretty safe to have your camera bouncing off your body all day? I want to get one so I don't reach into my pack constantly though the day but I also don't know if all the bouncing from movement will fuck up the IBIS or some shit.
>>4500243When I'm doing my walks with the big bazooka, looking for birds and whatnot I carry it by the strap. I use the medium since it is still comfortable and I can use it for the light lens setups as well for touristing. The IBIS is off, it only comes on when you focus it on something, the floating sensor just sits idle.
>>4500245Ah, so maybe I just use a prime if I do that then? The zoom I have is a decent weight and I don't want to put too much pressure on the connection.>The IBIS is off, it only comes on when you focus it on something, the floating sensor just sits idleYeah I don't know much about this stuff, I only recently got an IBIS camera and I was afraid that bouncing it around when off would break it.
>>4500247That is why these big lenses have strap attach points. You hang the camera off the lenses and not the other way. I like to support both on the strap.
>>4500247I had an IBIS camera for more than a decade, brought it everywhere, the sensor and IBIS is fine. Don't worry about it.
>>4500219>what's the point? just use a smartphone if you don't need EVFBecause you might want the benefits of a FF sensor? Why are you only allowed to use them if they have an EVF? The only people using EVFs are uncs anyway.
I posted this in the other gear thread:https://www.amazon.com/PGYTECH-Backpack-Arca-Swiss-Compatible-SnapLock/dp/B0F23GCRRW/https://www.amazon.com/SMALLRIG-Release-Fujifilm-Backpack-Arca-Swiss/dp/B0F4QSRTPX/Has anyone tried either? I want something for traveling. I don't want to carry a camera bag either because they either end up too big or too small when I'm just carrying a compact APSC DSLR + a short telelens. Would rather carry a backpack and have this on my shoulder for when I want to take a shot>>4500243Try this strap. I had it on my K1 w/Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 in Europe which was nearly 4lbs of camera. It worked well. But I will admit that trip made me realize for 90% of my snapshits a K70 (APSC) would've sufficed and I'm better off either using a good fast zoom or a 35mm/50mm prime + cheap tele. https://www.amazon.com/Padwa-Lifestyle-Camera-Strap-Photographers/dp/B0D2HF8P9S?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1I use these on my cheaper DSLRs (<$100 KM 5D or K10D) but definitely be careful with them, check the attachments. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806327264009.htmlAlso look above and try out one of the solutions. I think that + a lanyard to keep it from fully dropping/falling off would be a good solution.>>4500250I always wince when I accidentally hit it even if its against my elbow. Its not the IBIS that scares me as much as the AF mechanism.
>>4500257My go-to go anywhere lens on my K1 is the 43/1.9, absolutely spectacular lens in such a small package
I'm new to photography and someone is selling me a Canon EOS 4000D with a EFS 18-55mm for about US$200 aprox.Is it worth?
>>4500247Only Sony cameras have fragile IBIS systems that aren't as durable.
>>4500248It's not big enough that it has an anchor point, it's just a regular zoom. Funnily enough it's the same lens as >>4500257, a 28-75mm f/2.8 (roughly 500g from what the spec sheet says).>>4500257>Try this strap. I had it on my K1 w/Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 in Europe which was nearly 4lbs of camera. II might go with a Peak Design again if I can, I have a few anchors from the wrist strap version (which has been great but still requires me to put it back in the pack at some point) and I've seen they have a few crossbody versions. Those little backpack attachments don't seem like they can support a full frame with a 500g zoom on it.>>4500265Sounds like a pretty good deal imo, the 4000D usually goes for a little bit more than that. I'd still test it first to make sure it's all good, like dead pixels or AF not working right.>>4500268Kek, nobody even asks and Sony still comes up. Rent free meme lives on.>inb4 snoyI have a Nikon, settle down.
Am I a dumbass for not liking EVFs at all? Using my dads Nikon zfc after using my dinosaur pentax makes me want to vomit
>>4500284You like what you like, don't worry about it. I still find myself using the EVF from time to time for some reason.
>>4500204Also why buy a camera when you could buy so much McDonald's instead
>>4500284Yeah, a little. But don't worry, you're in great company.
>>4500284It took some getting used to for me after having shot dslr without EVF for 15 years.But it's nice being able to see in a little darker environments and not just wing it. Still, would love to have a little switch to go between optical and electronic when I want to.
>>4500280He was asking about IBIS systems and Sony does have fragile ones. How is that rent free? Ive had 1 sony mirrorless, an old SLT and Minolta DSLR with IBIS issues. Must have started with Minolta and inherited it from there.
Could someone please suggest some cheapish primes for APS-C in the 28~35 and ~105 area? I have a thread here >>4498027From what I can understand you cannot adapt a lens and have it support autofocus. Someone told me to get a Canon 50mm f1.8, which is fine, however the first prime I've tried a Takumar 50 1.4 is amazing and I'd like to try more pentax ones. I primarily do my photos when traveling however and I don't want to spend half my trip wrestling with trying to nail focus. This runs into the conundrum of aiming for photo quality or aiming for ease of use; I'm also unsure if an EF mount autofocus prime will be just as good as the Takumar, and my belief that Takumar is amazing is just confirmation bias due to lack of experience
>>4499299>>4499540>>4499548>Have a 1000mm equiv lens in my pocket at all times>Makes boomers seetheFeels good man
>>4500309>just crop bro it's just as good as real glass>just a little more cropping bro and I swear bro it'll be a good photo bro>just get a 300MP phone bro that way you can crop more bro
>>4500324>>4500309Phones bros we stay winning.
>>4500327That's a *fucking* 4k photo? Holy moly.
>>4500257> Has anyone tried either? Yes, I bought the pgytech v2. I wouldn't recommend it, it seemed to be built very cheaply and I had to disassemble it to fix some seizing issue that meant it would sometimes not lock the camera into place.Once I sorted that, it was okay.As for the general concept, I found it incredibly useful while hiking, but I think it made me look like a bit of div.
>>4500284EVF is the better professional tool, but it's a computer screen. Nothing weird about not enjoying looking at a computer screen when you're out shooting.I progressed to the point where I use MF lenses most of the time, partly because they feel much better in hand than plastic consumer crap.
>>4500284>Nikon zfcEVF's come in as much variety as cameras doZfc is lower in size, resolution, and refresh rate than many other EVF's. There are more non-spec differences too, like the type of glass used, and the quality of the live view itself, sometimes even changing based on the camera settings.EVF's offer more functionality, but the OVF experience is still better in some ways.
>>4500327Phonefags absolutely BTFO by Full frame EDC chads!
>>4500327That's a beautiful painting anon, you're really talented.
Does anyone have experience with the 50-400mm Tamron on the Z-mount? I'm intrigued by its 50mm magnification for semi-macro and its sharpness on the longer end compared to the Nikon 100-400, despite being half the price. I'm trying hard to not trick myself into spending $1500+ for a lens when I'm not making any money off photography.
>>4500327the aidslop in my phone turns signs into digital letters, how will camfags even recover ?
>>4500252There's no benefit from full frame sensor, didn't you see OP webm? Just use a phone. The only people using cameras are uncs.
>>4500327>>4500352hearty kek
>>4500301Sony/Minolta DSLR issues have more to do with build quality, they just randomly die from errors. The Minoltas are old enough the CCDs die, the meters underexpose, the shutters break or first black frame (again, bad shutter) or they just don't start. The 7Ds are worse about it than the 5Ds since they were handmade and used different shutters. I still love my 5Ds though. Just the shutter sound alone. >>4500280K1 + 28-75mm is a huge camera and literally 90% larger than most FF cameras people will carry. If you're trying to put a FF Nikon like a D850 or D810 its gonna be the same size. That strap held it fine and that's with me running around Italy and Spain. The problem is your strap isn't long enough to put it around your shoulder like the right pic where I have a black polo on. Once you do that its like carrying a purse/messenger bag and takes the strain off your neck. Put it under your hoodie and you can have the hoodie protect it from splashes/bumps too.That's why I specifically linked those two straps, most camera straps aren't long enough. Neck is only good for FF + primes or APSC with small zooms. >>4500302Takumar 50mm f1.4 and 55mm f1.8 My favorite manual prime lately is this one, I was lucky enough to get it in K Mount, I love how it renders photos. https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/S-M-C-Super-Auto-Takumar-35mm-F3.5.html>>4500337Ehh it can't make you look worse than carrying a DSLR normally. I like it because I won't have to use a actual camera bag (small backpack instead). Thanks for the input. The smallrig one is rated for 40kg (lmao)...maybe I'll try it and return it. I think with that and a safety catch or lanyard on the backpack in case it fails I will be okay The Peak Design Camera Capture Clip is like $80 which isn't too much of a jump from the $50 the smallrig costs...https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1372683-REG/peak_design_cp_bk_3_capture_camera_clip_black.html
>>4500371Thank you for the help, I bought a 50 1.4 recently and love it, pic related. Is there a point in getting a 55 1.8 having just brought the former? >35 3.5This one looks good but I'm a bit confused about the gorillion variants. Do I need to obsess over getting a particular one or are the differences microscopic? Does the mount make a difference in functionality if I'm going to be converting it to EF anyway?There happen to be two available locally. Could you please give me your opinion on which is better?https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/electronics-photography/camera-accessories/lenses/pentax/listing/5817666181https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/electronics-photography/camera-accessories/lenses/pentax/listing/5816311407The former is super and the latter is SMC. I'm leaning towards the latter.I was also looking at a Konica Hexanon 40 1.8, but from what I can understand the flange (?) is too long to be adapted to my camera.
>>4500372>having bought the formernot really up to you, different lenses render differently + sample variation$120 nzd is too damn much wait for a deal or look for one. the mounts only matter because its one less adapter you'll need to buy (m42 = screw/threaded). the differences are microscopic imo but the smc coated ones have better contrasting/flare resistance iirc at the same time these old lenses all really suck in that aspect so buy on price and condition
Need to pick between a6700 vs x-s20 for mostly video and some light photography. Apparently a6700 overheats less and has better autofocus, but costs a little more in here, is x-s20 overheating really as bad as they say?or go with something else entirely? Need a budget aps-c for mostly video
https://youtu.be/9W4kSa6znxoneat
>>4500327This gives me great 1990s vidya vibes.
>>4500337I use PGYTECH V2 too. It's great for hiking or very long walks when you have a backpack with you. It works well on the backpack strap. I also tried using it on the belt, but that just balances weirdly.
>>4500177Post some photo's with it anon, I'm looking at them but i'm worried the quality difference between dlux and my FF are going to be very noticeable in my work.
>>4500411>is x-s20 overheating really as bad as they say?I tried one out and never had overheating, but I wasn't doing very long clips and only 1080p.Fuji has a fan accessory which securely bolts into the body.I would definitely pick the X-S20 over a6700 for video because it has way more recording format options.
>>4499299So the "ENHANCE" meme is real after all...
>>4500327Camerafags can just use DxO you know.
>>4500411If mostly video, maybe look at some of those vlog cameras or something. Those two are a bit more geared towards photography over video as I recall.
>>4500456Do you pronounce is dick-so? Or dee exs oh?
>>4500413Well fuck me that is pretty fucking cool and gamechanging. Completely impractical though. How long until we get those goggles slimmed down to normal glasses size with wireless connection?
>>4499288Lads, something marvelous happened, my Brothers birthday is coming up and he has for the first time shown interest in photography so I want to buy him a camera.Fujifilm Instax Cameras to be precise, particularly the Mini Evo and the Wide Evo are the two cameras he's been interested in. I've shown him several other but he likes the two for their retro looks.Which one should I buy for him?He said that he likes the Wide for making wide photos, but likes the portability of the Mini because he can just pocket it.He hates social media and self-glorification so he won't use it for selfies or for snapshitting on insta or whatever the youth uses these days, but he wants to keep memories with the bros.The Mini is 182.99€, the Wide is 305.99€, film costs the same.I don't worry about the price, my question is which one is better for my brother who's a novice photographer who's only begrudgingly handled my AE-1 and A7S II when needed?
>>4499288What would i pay for a framed inate you shot with your cellyphone? Would not give you a squirt of piss for it.WOULD NOT GIVE YOUSQUIRT OF PISS
>>4500477The mini. I think if its annoying to carry he's less likely to use it and more likely to fall out of love with it.Spend the rest on film for it for him.
>>4499496>sony firmwareI never thought I could hate a camera's software as much as I do before using Sony.Imaging Edge? More like... Fuck you. Somehow I have to re-pair bluetooth from scratch like every time I reboot the camera to use a-remote. You want to see the level? Well, you can't see anything else. Not even the current focus mode. None of the reviews I watched warned me about any of this.
>>4500498>Imaging EdgeI thought that got discontinued desu. The recommended app now is called Creators, it's still from Sony but for newer cameras (post 2016 or something I think), it works about as well as the Nikon app I had a long time ago.
Just ordered the RF 45 1.2. Want to see how it stacks up against my vintage 1.2s
>>4499346>The fact that the a7c line exists at all is a miracleWhat did anon mean by this.They aren't even small.
>>4500505There are too many product lines in the sony ecosystem for my smooth brain. They should simplify their lineup.
With all the price increases lately with memory and storage, is it likely that it will affect cameras?
>>4500483>The mini. I think if its annoying to carry he's less likely to use it and more likely to fall out of love with it.Ttue>Spend the rest on film for it for him.I've already planned 100€ of film (rougly 100 shots), 120€ of films on top might be too wild at first.
>>4500509Cameras have already steadily gone up every year since covid. Smartphones have eaten up the entire entry level market so all the manufacturers can do is increase prices and pretend everything is "premium" even though they keep on recycling old tech.
Is this the most ergonomic "small" camera?
>>4500499Doesn't support my a6600 which isn't THAT old.
>>4500576Not really, not with that lack of grip. That's the only thing that makes it smaller than an A7.
>>4500576No just get an a7c and a 35mm f2.8It makes 4chan seethe so you know its based just like israel winning non stop and the government literally giving you inside trading tips
>>4500576No E-P7 is.
>>4500469XDDDDO
I've done some photography with an X100 series and know the basics. I really just want to scale back but not just use my iPhone. Is a Ricoh GR the easiest way to just have a good camera on me all the time without conspicuously looking like a photographer? Is the HDF version a meme or is it more interesting than just the standard with ND filter?
>>4500582It's kind of an old lens at this point. Maybe the 40mm 2.8 would be better. Agreed on everything else.
>>4500498>You want to see the level? Well, you can't see anything else. Not even the current focus mode.Yeah, these arbitrary restrictions and constant incompatibilities make Sony a no-go for me.>None of the reviews I watched warned me about any of this.Unfortunately people have really low standards for user interfaces and usually accept whatever slop is fed to them. Windows 11.is a good example of this.
>>4500578There are supposedly some third party FOSS apps that work with all the pre-Creative app cameras but I've yet to try any of them yet. In all honesty, every app that is meant to work with cameras has been really shit in my experience, no matter which brand. You're probably better off with a remote or a wired remote, I gave up on the Canon Connect app since it would either work perfectly or require me to fuck around with setting it up all over again when it didn't.
I think I have a hoarding problem. I keep finding these super cheap 2010s aps-c cameras from Nikon and Canon bundled with gear that alone covers the cost of the whole lot. In buying these types of lots and selling on the extra gear (lenses, flashes etc) I have now amassed about 20 cameras at no cost and I don't know what to do with them. Please help.
>>4500606Sell them as well. If they don't sell try bundling a couple lenses with them.
>>4500576What is R8
>>4500582>gud moarning saars!
>>4499998Thanks.>>4500002Funny how I have the same camera I wish it had a microphone port man
>>4500606What do you do for a living? If you don't really care about your gear you can rent it probably
>>4500705That era of Nikon were pretty shit for video, so I wouldn't recommend them for any form of video.
>>4500708What if you're using this?>>4499823
>>4500709It's not even about stabilization, they just don't have good video quality and what you can do with them is extremely limited.
>>4500710I think it's like an iphone 9 in terms of video quality, which is not that bad
>>4500705NTA, but I wouldn't call the 35 DX "really good". It's ok, but it's a budget product for budget cameras.
>>4500715You can't always tell if it was a $1300k lens or $100 lens
>>4500720The fringing / chromatic aberrations are not something worthy of a "really good" prime lens. It's worse than the 50mm lenses, and its errors are magnified still by the smaller sensor. And the build isn't particularly great either.I'm not saying that it's awful, it's about what you could expect from that product segment from that era.
>>4500361With a Samsung S25, for example:>Primary: 200MP 1/1.3″ sensor, 24mm equivalent f/1.7-aperture lens, multi-directional PDAF, OIS>Ultra-wide: 50MP sensor, 120˚ f/1.9-aperture lens, dual pixel PDAF, Super Steady video>Tele 1: 10MP 1/3.52″ sensor, 67mm equivalent f/2.4-aperture lens, PDAF, OIS>Tele 2: 50MP 1/2.52″ sensor, 111mm equivalent f/3.4-aperture lens, (periscope design), PDAF, OISYou have 4 prime lenses in your pocket.You can seamlessly capture everything from ultra-wide to telephotoMeanwhile cameruncs are switching lenses and missing photos, or using a zoom lens with compromised aperture / optics.Normies still think that cameras take better pictures, but that's only because pros know how to control exposure.This can be done with a phone + good camera app.Yes there are some edge cases like a candlelight dinner where full frame sensor will produce better images, but the vast majority of photos aren't taken in conditions like that.
>>4500712In that case, use your phone. Chances are your current phone is newer than an iPhone 9.
>>4500774Theres really no point trying to convince out of touch /p/ boomers. They still think smartphone cameras take 1MP photos that look like theyre from the 1990s.
>>4500774See >>4499299 for the true power of Samsung.
Any thoughts on the GFX100RF? I'm having fun with my Leica Q2. I love the image quality and 28mm. What bothers me is editing in LR, they don't even have a Q2 color profile there. So I'm stuck with Adobe color profile or so and edit from there. It still kinda works and colors aren't too bad at all but I miss my old fuji days where I could classic chrome for example as a base and work on that. More consistent and nicer results overall. Makes me really think wether I should sell and buy the RF. Missing IBIS shouldn't be that much of an issue as you apparently can shoot high iso without problems. I may miss bokeh here and there but even on the Q I usually go to f4 or f5.6. RF is quite ugly though, not sure what they were thinking but that shouldn't be the deciding factor I guess.
>>4500774A full frame sensor will produce better images in literally every scenario but shooting test charts at iso 12800 f22 with AI noise reduction - then they’re just the same>muh super wide range of focal lengths!That has always resulted in worse photography and always been a thing for low end cameras for tasteless normies. Congratulations to the tech industry for recreation the zoom lens small sensor PNS lmfao. Only now it’s mixed with AI and receives OTA censorship and surveillance updates from based palantir even if you think your phone is turned off (no such thing) and the law protects you (lol)
Camera gear is one of those product niches where the budget category is over 800$ for brand new productsAlthough most old 24mp cameras still are pretty good.
Kinda regret not buying a GFX100SII for $3300 the other day. I have an itch to try medium format 100 megapickles.
>>4499288are there any compact cameras that are actually good i have a sony a6300 but its just a bit big as a daily usage device would like soemthin gi can throw in my pocekt and not worry about it getting damaged. camera on my phone sucks ass (15 megapixel chink slop) but i like my phone. max spend would be like 2-300 GBP can be old. something like pic i guess although these all seen very over priced because theyyre popular on social medias or something
>>4500774
replying to myself >>4500822 i saw the lumix gm1 mentioned above that seems like a small camera, when i had a gx11 i paired it with a 7artisans pancake lens which worked quite well maybe pairing these 2 would be decent? also seen the DMC-TZ60 and DMC-ZS60
Olympus XZ-1 or 2, Samsung exf2, Lumix LX7 etc.
>>4500819Rent it
>>4500824Those who can not make correct statements make wojak memes
>>4500870nice these look compact i noticed theyre 10 megapixel that is lower than current phone sensor will they be better because bigger sensor/lens though?
>>4500877yes to a pointyou cannot overcome physics like actual glass and sensor unlike what >>4500774 saysall phone cameras look like shit once you start zooming and its just cropping (digital zoom) while the cameras have optical/mechanical zoom
>>4500822>>4500825>>4500877I'm looking for the same but something that can do RAW images, any reccs? Max budget for me can be 600USD. Good autofocus is also ideal since I'd give it to family members as a sort of PnS camera when I'm not using it.
>>4500822Pentax MX-1. It's a small sensor but has IBIS and optical zoom while the optics are surprisingly sharp for such a size
>>4500872Not really an option around these parts, but it was under-priced by a lot which is another reason I am a bit salty about it, but there will be other opportunities I am sure.
Man I just want to upgrade to the R7 Mark II
>>4500912I hope they keep the control ring the way it is in order to trigger autistic boomers.
>>4500822>>4500905Sony RX-100 III or newer, whatever you can afford. The VI and VII have a longer zoom range but it's slower.
>>4500917Is it pretty safe to buy them used? I don't want to get a fried hot pixel ridden sensor or something, I've been burned before by old Canons that were used for extensive video.
>>4500917Was gonna say this as well. Another option would be the LX100 II, but it may be slightly above budget, but is otherwise about as good as it gets even for new compact cameras seeing how Leica just reissued the same camera with only slight improvements such as a better EVF, screen and a slightly different button layout and then charge 3 times as much.
>>4500905Sony ZV1 is $4-500 used but no viewfinder. Its equivalent to the RX100VII. The lens is faster but it limits you to 70mm focal length.
>>4500924also no flash, but it's a great camera.
>>4500874>You have to buy an expensive and overpriced dedicated camera kit and edit photos because thats how i used to do it back in the day!boomer moment
>>4500926look man you dont have to take photos
>>4500913I hope they go BSI stacked to trigger the fool frame cattle.
>>4500926Your problems>i cant afford it because i am lazy and dumb>i cant edit photos efficiently because i am lazy and dumb>older people trigger me because of most of them are more successful than methe fruits of your “philosophy”>shitty looking AI enhanced phone smears and auto HDR, eventually (you never post photos and probably cant afford the extra data anyways desu)>hours spent being miserable on /p/>being one medical bill away from ending up homelessGet a job and you wont be so mad at cameras for existing and generally costing more than 2x as much as your bank account
>>4497261>https://www.amazon.com/Definition-Telephoto-Teleconverter-Magnification-Photography/dp/B0866Z74ZJ/141-1395782-5998500>>4497664>I've got 58 thread on what I use, so that might work. hmmm.I bought this one. It definitely adds a bit of abberation, but it's not as bad as I was hoping for.I'll probably have to combine it with other stuff.
Anybody else find vintage 100mm glass, even third party to be very sharp? I am in the position where I am able to test a bunch of old crap and it strikes me that with that particular focal length I rarely find anything to complain about. With 85mm and 135mm it is more often a mixed bag.
>>4500924Really? I always see the Zv1 advertised as a vlogging camera, so I've had doubts about how good they are for photos. The prices are really good which always tempted me though, especially used.>>4500926>You have to buy an expensive and overpriced dedicated camera kitNobody ever says that, most people will say the opposite actually.>edit photos because thats how i used to do it back in the dayAlso not really, a lot of people go for straight out of camera jpegs. Film emulation profiles are massively popular for this reason. Maybe you just hate photography bro.
>>4500926Let the boomers have their moment. They're old and have no friends anon.
>>4500909damn really cool camera
>>4500930Holy shit retard its bait why did you type this LMFAO
>>4500774>using a zoom lens with compromised aperture / opticsI like my phone as much as the next guy, but any modern zoom completely blows phone primes out of the water. Probably even any not so modern zoom.
>>4500941>I've had doubts about how good they are for photosthere's nothing stopping the zv1 from being good for photos. the lens is faster (24-70 f1.8-2.8 vs 24-200mm f2.8-4.5 on the rx100vii) + it doesn't have a evf or flash. otherwise its the same camera underneath. theyre at least half the price of the rx100vii because its all vlogging normies who bought it and realized they got the same video quality from their iphone/galaxy but lost out on the workflow. i bought mine for $400 and sold it to $480 to mpb (wanted a ff dslr) i actually really liked the sooc jpegs on mine. its perfect if you dont need a flash or evf and want a pocket travel camera, the only thing comparable imo is a nikon z30 + 16-50mm kit lens when it goes for sale as refurb.
>>4500941>I always see the Zv1 advertised as a vlogging cameraMostly a product segmentation marketingy thing. It trades an EVF, flash and longer focal lengths for a faster lens, flip screen, and mic, that's all really. It's otherwise probably the same hardware as something like the RX100 and takes stills just as well.
>>4500980If youre carrying a FF camera around as an EDC you have a fixed wide angle prime on it. Good luck getting a 1000mm+ crop on that. Not even 60MP can save you.
>>4500878>all phone cameras look like shit once you start zooming and its just cropping (digital zoom) while the cameras have optical/mechanical zoomUnc, you're running on outdated information.Modern high-end phones have a periscope zoom lens which is a prime.The phone is switching between different prime lenses and sensors as you zoom.Here is the best rated phone camera system to date.https://www.dxomark.com/huawei-pura-80-ultra-camera-test/>Primary: 50MP 1″ sensor, 1.6µm pixels, 22.5mm equivalent f/1.6-4 aperture lens, dual pixel PDAF, OIS>Ultra-wide: 40MP 1/2.8″ sensor, 0.7µm pixels, 13mm equivalent f/2.2-aperture lens>Tele: 50MP 1/1.28″ sensor, PDA, OIS (used by both periscope style tele lenses)>Tele lens 1: 83mm equivalent f/2.4-aperture lens, 50MP image output>Tele lens 2: 212mm equivalent f/3.6-aperture lens, 12.5MP image output
>>4501037>best rated phone camera system to date.mfw
>>4500912I'd consider one if Canon figures out that zebras are useful in photo mode.
>OH N-
>>4501060>skin smoothening on the Samsung is a good thing>dummy doing the test also doesn't know what an ND filter is and is trying to use F16 to compensate for the lightThis isn't even a Snoy thing, this is "a retard that doesn't what how to use a camera" thing.
>>4501034The discussion was about zooms.
>>4501042Plastic Little face aside, I'm not usually the one to be a snob about bokeh, but that specifically bokeh makes me want to vomit.
>>4501042look... this is just bad JPEG processing. Developing the RAW file competently would give DSLR-like results.
>>4501117It doesn't unfortunately, they still force the AI smudge bullshit even in the RAW files. You don't get to have true RAW.
>>4501117Really? Then share some RAWs or articles comparing them to big boy cameras so we can see the results. Ideally some that aren't shots of mountains at high noon.
>>4501117>look... this is just bad JPEG processingThis. No different than shooting with a Sony camera.
taking photos with a phone is boring as shitsimple as
