There are like millions of setttings, how do I know which one is the best in my particular case?I've tried to watch some tutorials on Youtube, but couldn't recreate that super fancy feeling you're getting from fashion magazines. For example pic rel is my slop, is it possible to fix it somehow to make it look decent for Instagramm at least?
garbage in, garbage out.
>>4500839true, and still how do I know the best settings? Because for example I like this tone, and someone else likes another, how do I know which one is better?
>>4500845Subjective, art is subjective. There is no better "tone"All forms of art, at its core is reductionism and framing. The skill of photo editing is in how well you throw away whats not needed and show / create a picture of what you want to show.Technicalities aside, a simple example would be, you highlighting the blueness of the sky, or a warm yellow at sunset.There's three things:-1.) Composition/Framing2.) Exposure (As in luminance)3.) Coloring (As in tones).The first thing is essential, without it, garbage in garbage out. Exposures can tell a whole other story, the way you modify light in your frame, the dynamic ranges, and constrasts, can be used for narrative purposes. Coloring works to give a extra layer of detail, personally the first two give form, and color gives soul to the form.I sound pretentious, because i dont have a better way to explain it. I understand you want a quick easy way to somehow master a skill that takes years to make, but its not that easy.For now focus on getting the composition and lighting correct (i.e dont make it too dark or too bright, simple stuff, dont sweat the complex stuff rn)
>>4500847https://files.catbox.moe/ah1y5z.pdfthis manual is more than enough to teach you the basics of the craft, it has a lot of extra stuff mentioned for newcomers.As for after you learn the basics, you can delve into photography sub-genres, what you just shot cannot exactly be classified, but maybe car or street photography?Oh and after you learn to nail your framing and exposure, feel free to use LUTS or CUBE files for film simulation. It gives a nice way for newcomers to learn about color grading.Once you find a particular type of film simulation or LUT you like, then analyze why, and try recreating the settings yourself, this is the fastest way to develop associations between abstract concepts in your mind and sliders and curves in your program. A suggestion would be to see a basic tutorial on color grading in your program of choice, to get a feel of what to do, and proceed learning from there.
>>4500851Once you get a feel of how to color grade, you automatically will reject LUTS (or use them rarely) because the sheer flexibility of just doing it yourself cannot be matched.https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDhXA9nCkoqbThLirwLkb64n0WUPqqz5tthis guy's playlist is surprisingly good at compressing and presenting the key details.As for gear, it does not matter usually. Sure IQ depends on the quality of the lens and noise will be bad in old devices, but one can usually work around said limitations, focus stacking for quality, regular stacking for noise reduction, exposure bracketing to combat low dynamic ranges and many more. If need arises learn it, or get better gear, post 2010 cameras with decent consumer/cheap lens will do it.
>>4500836Its not my place to question where and for what you practice your photography for, but your two examples are the worst newcomer trap ever.Fashion magazines take photos in studios with lighting equipment worth 5x that car, and im not including the cameras. Instagram is full of deep fried shit and nostalgia fagging, that feels more like a larp of photography than true exercise.I suggest looking at the /rpt/, /fgt/ and /bpd/ to get a feel of stuff, also the fred miranda fourm is pretty good. If you have a phone the /ph/ thread shows that devices dont matter.https://files.catbox.moe/4na0u0.apkthis is ProShot, a full dslr level control apk for android cameras, you can do great stuff with this.
Tl;dr git gud and practice more
>>4500836not saying this to be a dick but getting your composition and exposure right is 90% of the work. "right" depends on what you want to do. If you don't know what you want to do when you're behind the camera you're going to spray and pray.I notice the better the pictures are that I take, the less adjustments are required in post.Typically when I know I've got a good picture I might make a few small bumps in the general exposure sliders in lightroom and maybe a tone curve adjustment. Localised filters (brushed or radial/linear) are handy when you're not in a complete controlled studio enviornment but these always come last in the workflow.
>>4500836>>4500851Thank you for this PDF
>>4500851Nice pdf, man Saved
>>4500847Wow all wrong. Luminance, tone, coloring are meme app words.Photo editing concerns itself with manipulating the histogram (learn it and tools like exposure, contrast, local contrast and terms like tone and dynamic range will become clear). The second part is colors. Its simple, learn about saturation, white balance and hue. You are now knowledgable enough to take a vision and make it reality from a raw. This skill kan never be obtained by slider riders and phone app editors (Lightroom users included ofc). There is more to learn but if you take a week or two to understand the basics you will easily master the rest over time.
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>>4502650>>4502656>>4502657If you check the manual of your camera, there will be some form of exposure hint you can check to make sure you dont underexpose so much. Or if you try shooting raw you can brighten the image afterwards when it looks like this
>>4502655>There is more to learn but if you take a week or two to understand the basics you will easily master the rest over timeWhere can I find those basics? Is there a book or a YT video with everything I need to know about the topic?
>>4502657These cars are suspiciously clean for a rally stage. Last group N event I saw everything and everyone was just covered in shit
>>4502661it was CER25, asphalt stage. Almost no dirt tracks... sadly
Since this is the unofficial /cum/ thread (old one is 2 posts from hitting the limit) I took these pics of my '16 WRX STi last weekend Left = Super Takumar 55mm f1.8 M42 lens from late 60s, thorium element iirc with some yellowing Right = Pentax 35mm f2.4 DA SMC AL released in 2010Body = Pentax K70 APSC DSLRAll shot raw and editedI think I just left the takumar at a wider open aperture (since its manual) so it had more subject separation while the 35mm was at f6.7 and f8
>>4503037I did notice the DA 35mm had more of a cool tone (blue tinge) I had to keep editing out, while the takumar's warm tones worked better. This car can be a little annoying to take pics of, its a blizzard white in the sun and if you take the highlights out it gets more of a cream color (crystal pearl white k1x)
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>>4503039oh i like how these 2 came out but these are 35mm da
>>4500847>Subjective, art is subjectiveWrong.
>>4503040What is your honest opinion on this editing?
>>4503038>>4503039>>4503040You're really posting your plate number multiple times on 4chan?
>>4503671/p/ is a friendly board
>>4502655Can we see some examples of your editing?
>>4503687Why anon? If you werent convinced about something I said Im happy to discuss it. Which part of my post do you want to talk about?
>>4503671oh no you will find out i have a excellent driving record behind my 2016 subaru wrx sti>No unpaid parking violations were found for the plate number you have entered. Please note that parking tickets issued in the past four weeks may have not yet been added to our database. If you wish to pay a ticket you just received, search by the ticket number to ensure it has not been entered into the system.america is difficult to get pertinent info out of number plates imo vs other countries. unless you have access to a police/law enforcement database in which you would be a complete idiot to risk your job to threaten strangers on 4chan. its probably why no one really edits them out car photos taken in america if you notice while japs/euros autistically edit them out >>4503670too brown, i think its the sharpness that makes it look wonky desu. maybe it needs added grain/softness.
>>4503703>america is difficult to get pertinent info out of number plates imo vs other countriesHere in Australia if you pay the $20 you can get someone's address and name iirc. Haven't bought one in ages and they're meant to be for when you're buying a car as a background check on it, but if $20 is all you need to follow someone home after a road rage incident, it's had to have happened at least a couple times.
>>4500836My best advice is- learn the software. Learn what each area is affecting. Then take a HARD look at the picture. Is it even worth editing? If the composition is bad, it's out of focus, or it's blown out... work on taking better pictures. THEN worry about the edit. There's only one thing worse than a bad picture- it's a bad picture someone tried to fix.When you're ready to edit, decide where you want the viewer to look. Every aspect of the picture should guide the viewer's eye to that spot. Ask yourself, when you take AND edit the picture, what emotion are you trying to convey? Unless you're taking pictures of a shampoo bottle for an ad company, work on evoking emotion in the viewer. And, give yourself enough room to crop.
>>4504056Who gave you permission to post another dog snapshot?
>>4500851Thank you anon.Ps fuck captcha
>>4504057Thanks for the meme.
Not OP but what should I do differently with this picture? Nikon D3500, kit lens. Just started editing raws with an old crack of Photoshop cs6.
> what should I do differently with this pictureplay with different settings untill you're happy wih the look
>NX Studio 1.10.0 is out - with Film Grain and Dehaze>in youre cunt versions newer than 1.8 don't workwhy live?
>>4507080anon dehaze was new in Photoshop Elements 14
>>4507081I don't want to pirate it
>try comfyui>it doesn't work>try krita ai>it doesn't work>everything elese is not free I guess I'll try the automatic1111 and get over it
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2>denoise, sharpen, recover face, all made by AI Thoughts?
it can remove facial hair just by pressing a button
>>4507080Nobody that cares about editing using NXStudio lol>>4507399Pointless use of AI>>4507408Looks terrible
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2 AI + NX Studios>>4507410Bad how? It only took me like 5 seconds to make, I think it's great
I miss when picrel was the level of editing threads we used to have
>>4507414I can't tell if it's good or bad, looks meh ngl
>>4507418>I don't know how to learn from readingVery sad
>>4507418This must look bad to you too
>>4507420Can you please explain where's funny in the image? First anon is an autistic retard obviously, the second one seems more reasonable but the second pic looks like it came from 2004
>>4507421>Frequency Separation It's 2026 we're bringing the Porcelain doll look back here in /p/ LET'S FUCKING GOOOO
>>4507413Professional editor would remove a fold on her titty, also red color in her eyes is too bright Everyting else is perfect. Especially if it was made in less than 2 minutes
>>4507422Anyone that is fixating on the bottom right image is taking the low IQ route to miss the point entirely>>4507408The before was already bordering overexposure, and now we are definitely overexposed and getting that nice white halo effect tooShe has even less contour on the face>>4507413This looks like a color management issue, like when you upload CMYK instead of RGB, you're almost at Ken Rockwell tierOne thing to keep in mind with editing, is what you are wanting to emphasis for focus the viewer. She still looks too dark relative to the background, and there are lots of distractions you can clean up. If this is for fashion, the colors of the outfit would be a problem. If it's a modeling photo for her, it doesn't come off super flattering.
>>4507425>This looks like a color management issue, like when you upload CMYK instead of RGB, you're almost at Ken Rockwell tierCan you demonstrate how it should be done properly?here's the raw file >>4506007
so far we have 4 optionsat least one of them was made by AI>>4507413>>4507203>>4507202>>4507113
>>4507428>how it should be done properly?That's subjective, but I would recommend looking at some fashion / model shots see if you can find any that have a similar kind of grading as yours, I'd be very curious to see and maybe I'm just out of the loop on modern trends.>>4507203 was my editIf you have any reference photos for style, I'd be happy to edit it to match whatever the you're going afterI might do some different edits either way
>>4507437Always happy to go over every step of the process tooI want people to enjoy editing, not avoid it
>>4507437>If you have any reference photos for stylepic rel
>>4507429I have no idea what am I doing
>>4507437more tinkering, cleaned up some more distractions and eased up on the stylized grading and back to cooler tones>>4507439this is why lighting is so important
You can say what you want but I think AI is the future. And the future is now.
>>4507449>adds random shit near the woman's nose>enhances low-res pixel-level halos because it thinks it's a texture on the scarf>makes eyes look even worse>but muh hair his higher fidelity and it looks like she's wearing heavier makeup now, yay!Just go gen a picture with stable diffusion at that point anon
>>4507449I don't think anyone in this thread has expressed opposition to using AI for editing. There are many benefits and use cases for AI in editing.For most of the AI use cases, we did more or less the same thing, just with specific software in the past, but AI tools have become the standard for many photo editors because they are so efficient now.
>>4507449AI is the future of lying and a continuation of the tradition of lying that began with airbrushing and manual compositing. Imagine, if you lived in the 20s, if every speed graphic camera contained nanomachines that airbrushed your photos for you and could even paste over parts to add or remove people and buildings. You might be able to use that device to shoot porno tier trash but your camera would be worthless for everything else. Everyone would assume every photo is fake. With a normal camera every original negative is assumed to be whatever happened in the lens FOV. This is what phones are now and what certain cameras (like the canon r1) are heading towards. AI can not generate a coherent, believable 14 or 16 bit raw file. Or an original film negative. It doesnt hold up to the most amateur forensics - it only fools people as 1080px instagram posts aka nothing. Its another case of>if a machine can do it, it was probably worthless
>>4507449>AI can make a blurry photo of jizzlane maxwell look like a traced illustrationimplessive
>>4507451I remember someone asked on some forum if there's a tool that can make retouching automatically. So people told him all this obvious bullshit about how you have to do everything manually for better results, you have to learn this craft, etc. And then the man replied that he's already old and he has no time for editing all this crap and he'd rather spend what's left on taking photos.
>>4507473Jokes on him, he could have someone else take the photos for him too and then he can spend his limited time doing something unrelated to photo
>>4507475Taking photos is fun, removing wrinkles and acne is not fun. No one remembers great blackhead removers, people only remember photographers.
>>4507479Some people have fun by trying to polish their workSome people have fun by doing rough draftsNeither is wrong, but don't act like it's a virtue to not take pride in your work>people only remember photographers.Which famous photographers do no editing?
>>4507480Editing shouldnt be lumped in with skin retouching for sluts
>>4507480>Which famous photographers do no editing?>Helmut Newton generally did not engage in heavy, modern-style digital retouching to alter body shapes or eliminate imperfections, preferring a raw, full-frame approach.
>google tutorials on YT>see "1 minute skin retouch" video>look inside>it is a pajeet and 16 minute video
>>4507502Do you think this is unedited? He may have been light on like skin retouching, but you're retarded if you don't think his photos are edited
>>4507535Is this unedited too? lol
>>4507536post the original or it wasn't edited
>>4507539If you can't see the dodging and burning just from looking at it, you need to improve your visual accuity
hit the randomizer button until it looks good
which one looks better?
>>4507649lower
>>4507649Bottom, but CPL's are very low on the totem pole when it comes to portraits I wouldn't bother with them unless you do lots of photos in urban environments with lots of glass buildings / windows you want to change the reflections, or for the same reason shooting near lots of waterA simple white reflector used as bounce or diffusion would do better here
Gonna drop a few tutorials, see if anyone benefitshttps://youtu.be/S8rw4kz2Jk4>bts bikini shoot with editing and file download so you can try yourselfOne of p's most successful still has a few editing streams uptwitch.tv/5hoe>beauty and lifestyle retouching
photography is donehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2vKZlCUUc8
>>4507674>CPL'spic>low on the totem pole when it comes to portraitsWhat's on top then? Black Mist, or something else?
>>4507772Lighting, composition, posing, editing.Better lighting will improve your image quality more than anything else.Composition and posing speak to the non-technical quality of the image.Lens choice sometimes can matter a lot in terms of the look, sometimes doesn't matter that much.Body gives you a potential top end of IQ, but a bad body + good lighting will always be better than good body + bad lighting. If you're doing posed portraits, you can get as much resolution and shallow DoF or whatever FoV you want too.You don't need CPLs at all if you have better lighting, and you basically don't need them if you bother editing.ND's are relevant if you use strobes in daylight or wide open.Black mist is a stylistic choice, and I use them depending on the mood, much more convenient and natural looking that doing it in post. 1/8 is all you need.
Lightroom is easierJust take better pictures
>>4507677>le professional I never did it like this even when I was 14 years old doin' funny photoshopsyet this faggot is teaching people, shooting models and does pretty well and I don'twhat can we learn from this?two things:1 photographic industry is full of fucking frauds 2 where you are is more important than who you are
>>4508309>what can we learn from this?That you're retarded
>>4508318Please elaborate
>>4508326A normal person might see an hour long example shoot with editing and even the file available, and try to learn something from itYou chosing to fixate on an irrelevant editing error, is a good example of why he is out there shooting models and teaching and you aren'tIt just makes you come across as jealous or sour>but I wouldn't make this mistakeWhat did you learn from it? That everyone else is talentless and only gets work due to nepotism, and no one acknowledges the talent you haveIt's almost sad
>>4508327>copied a huge chunk of space as is and put right next to it>mistake I rate this bait 0/10
>>4508328I'd hate to go through life with your level of unhappiness
>>4508329You're here with me, you probably hate your life as much as I do.
>>4508327> That everyone else is talentless and only gets work due to nepotismthis is true and charisma, not skill, is the social capital of western society so the rot runs deep. a civilization ran by actors where pretty boys run corporations and no one else is welcome to contribute unless they are a supergenius developing a computer to replace themselves.
>>4508332NopeIt should be obvious I try to spread information and positivity on the board, trying to bring it back to its former glory when we had an actual communityThat's why I post links, share information, participate in threads like this one, which of the edits above was yours? Or do you not participate?>>4508335>I have to cope because I'm not good enough, life is unfairLike I said, sad
>>4508351>pull yourself up by your bootstraps. injustice isnt real. just work harder. its just like my pre-1970s society with fewer, smaller ethnic and ideological networks!die, boomer.
>>4508356Not a boomer, it's more like>put some effort into your passionsIt's pretty sad to admit you have no charisma or friends, but I believe in youI started out just doing senior portraits of friends for $100, and that grew to some local concerts (only famous person would be Tyga)Then got a job working at a camera shop, gave me plenty of time to learn and use all kinds of cameras, and discounts on gearLeveraged that into doing more family shootsMoved cities to manage a shop, and began networking by starting a camera club for the city, and serving as a judge for some local photo contests.Took some friends engagement photos for cheap, and it went so well I did their wedding, directly from that I booked two more, and then just kept going. Weddings, engagements, boudoir, and some family / headshots every now and then. I've only been able to support myself full time with it for the last few years, but it's been a side hustle for like 17 years now I guess.Do you meet with other photographers in your area? Do you have friends you can shoot for free to build a portfolio? How long have you been doing photography?
>>4508359Nice larp>muh bootstraps>start from the bottomReality checkhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sjJrR1OdAIgThis applies to ALL artistic fields. What do you find in photography? Tentative porn actresses, rich kids, and pets of rich kids parents. Art has become identical to politics in this respect, 100% owned by inherited wealth and sex appe (jd vance wuz poor! yeah he also sucked peter thiels cock). You are either fuckable or have nepotism on your side. End of fucking story. Welcome to 2026 you clueless disingenuous fuck. Hard work does not, will not, can not, and will never cut it. Indians AI generating tits make more money than legit masters of LT portraiture. No one with AN ACTUAL HUMAN SOUL thinks the greed wagon is worth it anymore. Fuck your social media. Nice you had the privilege, boomer, but the bootstraps are rotten thanks to the decisions your generation made and the rest of us who came after you are DONE. We are not playing the same game. We are not using or caring about that shit. We are keeping our art to our real friends while you cry about how social media is moving past photography - yeah, actually, photography and all real human pursuits in general are done with the literal whore house that is now social media. Yours truly, a zoomer who is old enough to vote and consistently votes against the interests of anyone born before 2000.
>>4508365>Nice larpNotice how you can't even answer simple questions? It's just deflect, very guilty behavior bb>Yours truly, anophoto with admittedly no friends or charisma who can't believe other people can ever make it without nepotismDo you even enjoy photography? I do, and I did before the rise of social media, and I will after too
>>4508370Ok boomerArent you that fag with the stolen portfolio that shits up gear threads any time someone says fuji costs as much as a new sony but works like a canon r50? The one that always lies about how he’s an experienced professional but struggles to deliver a mediocre/bad dog photo, and shot his friends engagement once? That guy?Yeah, i dont care anon exposed you as a photo thief fuck off and steal photos somewhere else
>>4508375its not a guy, its an AI. notice it’s reusing phrases from the anon that caught it stealing photos. thats its programming. parroting. it begs for photos constantly and then steals them either to use outright or to generate low res "original work". it has no actual original work so it has to ask for a prompt to AI generate higher res versions. the dog photos are human intervention probably but with AI these days who knows…
Is there any recommended mobile editing app? Sometimes I don't want to wait until I'm home and I'm not dragging around a laptop.
>>4508454Snapseed, LR Mobile
>>4508375>says fuji costs as much as a new sony bThe only thing I say about Fujis cost is that they offer the worst performance per $, but I bet you'll forget me saying it this time too>anon exposed you as a photo thieflol, I just take the thief accusations as a compliment at this point, still always happy to prove proof, but I know this board is mostly deliberately malicious trolls and actual dunning kruger retards
>>4508472silence photo thief gearfag
Bump for engagement, come try editing
