Stocks are fucked. What the fuck is happening.
>>514342204jews.
what? nothing, VIX below 16. smash the buy button with both hands on tuesday faggot we gotta bubble to inflate
>>514342204Jew false flag is coming to pop the bubble.
nothingtrust meit never does
>>514342204They are about to use printer brrrrrr so we will see spike in crypto and indexes again
>>514342204Holy fucking shit. One index dropped nearly 3/4 of an entire fucking percent in one day.
zoom out. try 20 or 30 years.
>>514342204lol. Zoom out zoomer
>>514342204Trump is trying to fire the federal reserve board and replace them with lackeys that will drop interest rates to zero. The federal reserve board is the only thing protecting the market and USD value. If Trump succeeds, expect the markets to go into freefall and the currency to drop significantly
>>514342204>-0.62%Yawn. Wake me up when we are double digits.
>>514342747>fire the federal reserve board and replace them with lackeys>federal reserve board is the only thing protecting the market and USD value>If Trump succeeds, expect the markets to go into freefall and the currency to drop significantly
>>514342204>BITCONNECCCCCCCCCCCCCTTTTTTTT!!
>>514342204lol, why do retards panic over day of trading? tell me when shit like that happens on a week/month scale
>>514342204The stock market it rigged. Only retards would put their savings into it.
>>514342204Nigga the stock market crashed 10% in one day a couple months ago, this is a nothingburger
>>514342747>expect the markets to go into freefall and the currency to drop significantlyYou live in upside down land so you must see our charts going up as going down. Zero rates means assets will inflate. If you look historically, the only times this has happened is 2008 and 2020. I want you to make a chart of any date of the year 2000 to 2008 to 2020 to current. You can see an obvious trend, each time rates have hit 0 it causes number to go up at a higher rate due to compounding inflation. Simply put, if you do not own assets which appreciate with inflation then you are losing. And the next time rates go to zero is May 2026.
>not even 1%
>>514342204It turns out the markets don't like our senile retard of a president fucking with the federal reserve board and changing tariff rates every 45 seconds. Not a very stable environment to build a business in. No companies are investing in anything. Nobody is increasing production. Nobody is building new plants because they don't know if the tariff rate tomorrow will be 0% or 200%, let alone in 5 years when their factory actually gets done. Everyone is in wait-and-see mode until the senile orange retard croaks.
>>514343258It's not about the actual effect of rates going to zero, it's the erosion of confidence in the stewardship of US markets. The only reason the USD is valuable and the US stock market is because of confidence and trust in the federal reserve board. If Trump appoints lackeys, then confidence is immediately lost, as the US financial system is no longer a safe place to park your money. Turkey politicized their central bank years ago similar to how Trump is proposing and they've had hyperinflation and a worthless currency ever since.
(((WINNING)))
>>514343551>The only reason the USD is valuable and the US stock market is because of confidence and trust in the federal reserve board.lol the fed is fucking bankrupt since Oct 2022notice on the top half of pic rel the NYFed squeezes out the citizens' currency and pays its ilk insteadit clearly prioritizes enriching its private owner banks over the citizens having a currencywhy doesn't trump ever mention this?b/c fucking trump thinks the Fed is the housethe FUCKING US TAXPAYER IS THE FUCKING HOUSE
>>514343719put down the meth pipe dumbass
>>514343551The only reason the USD is valuable is not because of the US stock market. It is because of the US military and how every other country in this world except for a few are our military vassals. By all technicalities, the federal reserve board has lost trust since 2006/2007. But the constant force projection of the military reminds you lesser countries that it is our way or the chink way.
>>514342204OH SHIT NIGGER IT'S HAPPENING, WE'RE DOWN TO STILL-HIGHER-THAN-START-OF-WEEK
>>514343763the only idiot here is youupdate pic rel to ~$240B
>>514343919>By all technicalities, the federal reserve board has lost trust since 2006/2007This is just dumb man. Powell is globally extremely well respected. The soft landing after covid was a masterpiece of central bank stewardship.And Trump is currently deliberately trying to tank the currency, to make US manufacturing exports more competitive. If he stacks the board with political flunkeys, the USD is finished as the global reserve currency.
>>514342747>The federal reserve board is the only thing protecting the marketfucking kek
Feds getting replaced Rates to go down to 0% So that boomers can finish off the country by printing trillions for Israel
>>514342204Israel always sells before an attack so they can buy the dip.
>>514342747Nah. That will be a hapooning and nothing ever happens a nd if it happes it's gay, fake or both.
>>514343551you don't understand the difference between safe and safer. Its about being the least leaky boat. The rest of the developed world is a shitshow. Yes giving governments control of currencies was a mistake. Maybe as financial systems reboot over the next century that can be fixed.
It went up 6 gorillion percent year over year BUT THEN IT GO DOWN 1 PERCENT ITS SO OVER
The now-bankrupt Federal Reserve franchise collateralizes their worthless Federal Reserve Notes with US treasuries (aka securities).The 12 Fed franchises are now bankrupt and don't have enough collateral to request more fiat. It is being suggested now to take regional Fed shareholder capital or even regional Fed owner’s assets to back their worthless Federal Reserve Notes under Section 2 of the Federal Reserve Act. Every uncollateralized Federal Reserve Note being issued today is a lien on the assets (and shareholder capital) of the now-bankrupt NYFed's owners, including its largest owner, JPM.How is JPM making record profits when the NYFed's private franchise ITSELF is ~$130B in the hole?Why is JPM still being paid dividends when the NYFed is insolvent?When money replaces actual success, only the sleazy will be rich.
>>514344220>Its about being the least leaky boat. The rest of the developed world is a shitshow.Europe is the least leaky boat nowadays. The US is a bin fire of mismanagement since January this year. The biggest investment funds are all reallocated to Europe currently.
>>514342204https://youtube.com/watch?v=61Q6wWu5ziY
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/505237484/^^^ A thread about the BANKRUPT NYFed (now itself ~$144 B in the hole) and its ilk now trying to convince the boomers to switch from private Federal Reserve-issued, debt-based Federal Reserve Notes to privately-issued, debt-backed stablecoin tokens. This is going to be priceless to watch. Neither of these currency options benefit the citizens, they only benefit the private issuer. Will boomers sell out once again to the banks to save themselves from a failing system that they created? One last fuck you to the country as they insulate themselves in their private tokens?And in the next orchestrated crisis, are the boomers’ new asset tokens to become worthless, as the payment platform is the ultimate claimant to any reserve assets in a crisis or bankruptcy?When is the currency going to be restored to the people? Don't US taxpayers have a right to a debt-free currency issued by their own treasury?Pic related was just passed.This is just entitled boomer classists driving the fucking country into the ground for money (mostly from the now-bankrupt NYFed's QE policies) and now destroying the US taxpayer's currency (the fucking US$, which is A FUCKING UNIT) on the world stage with the Fed’s issued-into-oblivion, worthless Federal Reserve Note.How fraudulent do you have to be that you can actually destroy a fucking unit of measurement? lol holy fuck
>>514344295lol. lmao even. "... and that's purely a view on equity valuations". So even your own post suggests that this 'super fund' is buying up the depressed assets of euro companies. So this fund is betting that the rest of the market is wrong in valuing euro stocks poorly. So your linked image suggests the conventional wisdom is that the euros are fucked as you argue the prospect of euro growth outstripping the US. And really that growth is only from current depressed valuation levels.
>>514342204India is moving towards China. We threatened them with 50% tariffs over buying Russian Oil and they said fine, fuck it, we'll deal with the tariffs and keep buying Russian oil. Now they're smoothing things over with China. India is expected to be one of the major economies of the future, they don't care about doing business with the west as much as we thought they did. Western economies are shrinking, the east is rising.
>>514344700You can already see the movement to euro assets in the currency shift since January, keep sticking your head in the sand though
>>514342204>Stocks down>Bitcoin down>Gold upWe already know who's winning from this
>>514344649Stable coins are viewed as a sink for Treasury issuance. Kicking the can. But maybe the stable coins can develop a nice crypto ecosystem/tech that will be more useful someday.
>>514344867>Stable coins are viewed as a sink for Treasury issuance.debt-backed stablecoins are just as bad as debt-backed federal reserve notes
Uh oh
>>514344779currency isn't the economy. The objective of Trump/MAGA would be to put the USD in the toilet. It's the same devaluation game the rest of the world has played since time immemorial. This drives the competitiveness of US industry and exports - the very thing Trump was elected to do.
>>514342204>1.04%>.64%Is this your first day or something?
the people already have the power to stop any tyranny by SIMPLY USING CASH AND LEAVING YOUR PHONE AT HOME sometimesthese two simple things destroy any surveillance plansyou already have the fucking powerit is YOU that chooses to continue using the grid to your own detrimentyou already have the power right nowyou have agency stillthey just need your consent to implement it wholly, then having agency won't even matterthe current tech trend is for citizens to not hold or own information or organize it or remember itthey also do not store it on their own computers, but in a foreign cloud that tracks all changes in real timethey only have instantaneous ACCESS to informationpeople are not being conditioned to retain info or organize it for themselvestptb are now waiting for anyone with a high amount of intellect and knowledge to die off, then they will just be left with the malleable, dumbed-down 'instantaneous access' population that can't put two and two togetherUSE FUCKING CASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE INNEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAYA NATION'S FIAT IS THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN FUCKING HANDSand this is why the Fed seeks to even abolish paper Federal Reserve Notes, b/c fiat paper mostly SERVES THE FUCKING CITIZEN:fiat is the common national bond and cooperation of the value of one's laborif this fiat is issued by a private, debt-based central bank, then only the central bank profits from the labor of the citizens, not the treasury or the citizens
>>514342204Americans invested trillions in LLMs, 1/5 of their economy, and the bubble is about to burst.
>>514342204Trump said something about tariffs that wasn't "they're going away" probably
>>514345040>The objective of Trump/MAGA would be to put the Federal Reserve Note* in the toilet.ftfythe dollar is a fucking unit lol and will be around long after the Fed is nationalized
>>514342204So its...nothingjust stop posting for a few days
>>514344953Yes. And? They potentially still serve to prop up the Treasury market.Hell, isn't Tether the largest holder of US Treasuries? Well. maybe not yet.https://financefeeds.com/tether-joins-ranks-of-largest-u-s-debt-holders-with-127-billion-in-treasuries/
>>514345040You have to factor USD into the pricing of US stocks, they're inseparably interlinked. If Trump succeeds in flushing the USD down the toilet, then all stocks are also flushed in real terms. The SPY is up 10% this year, but flat when you factor in currency devaluation.
>>514342204Trump fired the head of the Federal reserve. He's been sparring with them for a few months because they've been refusing to drop the interest rate despite the economy stabilizing. There might be shenanigans.
Why is the NOW over $1.1 Trillion/year in interest paid on our Marketable (aka Public Issues) and Intragovernmental Debt (aka GAS treasuries) never included in the deficit?B/c the Fed gets paid first by the IRS, as the NYFed is the US Treasury's operating fiscal agent, then what is left over from IRS tax revenues, the NYFed then deposits into the Treasury General Account (aka TGA).IOW, the fucking interest is taken out FIRST from tax revenues by the NYFed AND IS NEVER EVEN ON THE DEFICIT CHOPPING BLOCK.With a red sweep, we will be able to see the Federal Reserve Uniparty in full view. Constant gridlock in Congress has concealed the true power of the Federal Reserve Uniparty.Don’t forget that the right had prior full control for at least a year under Trump’s first term and passed NOTHING in regard to the INSOLVENT, private Fed franchises that are now bankrupting the US Treasury for every last dime they can get (mostly the NYFed).Why don't we just issue US Notes ONLY for deficit spending? US Notes BENEFIT THE CITIZENS and DO NOT ADD TO our current debt. They could also be digital, only to be used in the US. Why don’t Musk or Trump ever suggest this? This is already fucking legal.US Notes circumvent the need to borrow our currency from the Federal Reserve, that's fucking why.Why do ALL of the proposed solutions to our debt only include the bankrupt Federal Reserve?US NOTES ARE NOT A NOVEL IDEA, THEY JUST DON'T BENEFIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE, WHICH IS WHY US NOTES ARE NEVER MENTIONED DESPITE BEING THE EXACT SOLUTION THAT WE NEED RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>514345183no the largest holder of treasuries is social security
>>514345148I agree. The US's financial engineering is superior to that of others. That doesn't mean you should use it as a store of value though.
>>514345218>despite the economy stabilizingThe economy is extremely unstable with tariff rates changing daily. Hiring has also almost entirely stopped and now it isn't possible to get accurate information because the BLS has been muzzled. It's an extremely risky time to invest in the US.
>>514345191No. stocks would inflate inversely to the currency collapsing in the long term. The creation of real goods and services is actual value, not paper.
>>514345191I'm never voting Republican again if this delusional Peronism is the party platform now. Hopefully, the damage isn't fatal.
>>514345347You hope stocks would inflate proportionally. There's no guarantee they actually would in reality. It's just as likely investors will flee to the safety of other markets instead of put up with the president and his inner circle literally pump and dumping the market every other week and extorting ownership stakes out of companies like Intel.
>>514345292you avoid tariff disruptions by moving your supply chain domestically. The instability is the point.
>>514345268>The US's labor and drive* is superior to that of others.ftfy toothe fucking US taxpayer is the SOURCE of wealththe US is wealthy IN SPITE OF the broke fucking federal reserve franchise, not b/c of iti don't fucking confuse american labor with the fucking parasitic Fed
>>514345497Nonsense, American companies are just as fucked as overseas companies because of the chaos of the administration
>>514345483>investors will flee to the safety of other marketsadios
>>514345483>to the safety of other marketslol. there are no other safe markets. Didn't you get the memo? The entire global economic system is being restructured into sphere of influences split between the US, China, and Russia. Globalization, the economic order in place since the early 1990's, is dead. Deal with it.
>>514345518I agree with that. I meant don't use the USD as a store of value. Investing in the US, even only holding stocks, is another thing.
>>514342204>Stocks are fuckedThe DOW was down 92 points, or -0.2% today.OP is a faggot.
Ive read a thread with this prognosis too many times before, im sorry
>>514345583That image is fantastic. I assume it is about de-minimus being ended by Trump. It's about goddamn time that ended. Allowing billion dollar companies to avoid tariffs by importing one-at-a-time was peak stupid.This change is going to allow real grass root small companies - small manufacturers, not drop shippers - to take root again.
>>514345762once a currency is used as an investment it is no longer useful as a currencythe very act of hoarding currency devalues it
>>514342747>The federal reserve board is the only thing protecting the market and USD value.If the federal reserve has been "protecting" and "safeguarding" the markets for so many decades, then why are the markets so shaky? Sounds like they have been controlling and parasitizing off the markets instead. The FED is controlled by jews who only care about their personal gains. There is no reason to not replace them with men that are loyal to the US first and foremost.
>>514342204All my life savings are on silverI want the economy to crash with no survivors
>>514345926It was ended with no notice, previously it was meant to happen in 2027, which is why world mail carriers have now blocked the US. It's peak governmental mismanagement.
>>514342747>the dollar will be worth less than toilet paper!>this means people will sell assets for almost nothing!Retard.
>>514345945A lesson the crypto bros have not learned. The other side of savings has to be investment, not hording.
>>514345086
>>514345994Its our economy. Its your problem.
>>514345994At this point, the best thing for the American economy would be for Donald Trump to die in his sleep.
>>514346126Actually it's your problem. 4 million packages are received from overseas by the US daily. Those have all been stopped. If you want to order anything from overseas right now, the answer is get fucked.
Deflation and inflation and other economic terms are FUCKING MEANINGLESS when one class of persons HAS FIRST ACCESS TO and IS BEING PAID FOR the issuance of any newly-created currency. Money does not mean the same thing or have the same scarcity (or have the same value) for all persons in the economy. As some do not earn their money (via real productivity), money is more liquid and less valuable for them, as they have exclusive first-access to the newly-issued currency and they also decide TO WHOM it is allocated via our current debt-based NYFed primary dealer financial system.As long as we have a cartel of private banks getting paid to issue the currency, the FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE will lose EVEN MORE value for those of us that truly do earn it via productivity.IT IS THOSE OF US WORKING that choose to prop up this class of parasitic, skillless invalids debauching our currencies worldwide via the Federal Reserve and its increasingly-worthless private currency, the Federal Reserve Note.US Treasury-issued, debt-free, fiat US Notes are the already-legal, interest-free sovereign currency solution to a debt-based currency and monetary policy parasite, the Federal Reserve Uniparty.
>>514346175And half the country is cheering it on as right-coded small businesses write confused posts on Facebook about why everything from their suppliers got so expensive all of a sudden.
The current destruction and subversion of the United States by the Federal Reserve using:-QE to counterfeit our currency and undermine its value-MBSs to acquire land and buildings-Congressional Public Issues for deficit spending to destroy the futures of the nation and the youth-the Intragovernmental Debt system to skim off of GAS treasuries and the non-marketable government securities of US savings bonds, SLGSs (special securities issued for states and cities) and large government retirement funds such as the Thrift Savings Fund (managed by BlackRock), etc.-their repo casino to pawn treasuries and undermine long term investment-reverse repos to pay MMFs to NOT invest in the US economy-metal market rigging via paper contracts to keep the prices of silver and gold low-margin loans to fund risky hedge funds and family offices that endanger our global economy-FX market rigging to check kite at their other implemented debt-based central banks-the US taxpayer to fund the Ukraine war and steal its resources-their authority to undermine innovation in crypto-inflation to destroy the middle class-interest rate hikes to kill off more small banks-China investment to undermine the US and global stability-regional bank vulnerability to target entire sectors-its clout to protect its largest primary dealer, JPM, from prosecution for aiding and abetting sex trafficking at the highest levels of government, industry and finance-their Sect 13.3 emergency powers to misallocate capital, reward failure and acquire assets during their avoidable, engineered crises using SPV (Special Purpose Vehicle) LLCs-conflation of their increasingly-WORTHLESS Federal Reserve Note with the US Dollar (which is a fucking UNIT), thus destroying the value of a US Dollar on the world stage and threatening our global economy and national securityWe need to dissolve the Fed, nationalize its twelve regional Federal Reserve bank franchises and AGAIN ISSUE debt-free US Notes.fucking plague
>>514346175You are right. I had a package of battery terminals hit shipping limbo - halted for ~1 month. I assume this was due to trade / tariff issues. I canceled the order, got a refund in < 24hrs, but only after ordering from another source and already having an alternate in hand.It is inconvenient, but not an insurmountable problem. Its a big economy. Worst case I could have fabricated what I needed.
>>514342204Your in a tizzy over a $2 loss on a friday before a three-day weekend?You’re an idiot!
>>514342204Always buy stonks low and sell high. Also buy the dip.
>>514346342>nationalize its twelve regional Federal Reserve bank franchisespic rel tick tock
>>514342975Only retards know it is rigged without profiting from that knowledge
>>514345292Egg prices went down, gas is reasonable again, cost of living is better than it was before.
>>514346308>How could this happen? I didn't vote for this...
>>514342204The stock market currently is in limbo as it's at an all time high and well surpassed typical drop / recession markers. A new found confidence (delusion) is that there are more people than ever just passively investing + apps etc with instant trade times.Trump is about to refinance the US gold price which has has an impact too We are at the delusion part in picrel.
>>514346876Gas is more expensive right now than it was in Nov 2024
>>514342975I'm curious. What mechanism would you suggest to store your wealth in as your assets creep over say ~$1M. A few $ hundred k, maybe real-estate; but then what?
>>514342204You dont know what happened you fuckin moron but youve made a thread? Forward P/E and Guidance came in flat for the NVDA earnings report Wednesday after hrs. And what is a primary holding of SPY and the Qs dipshit?
>>514346761This is one of those signs, much like complaining about usury, that you're dealing with a seething poorfag.
>>514342975Which of why you play the long game. Buffet demonstrated this perfectly.10% growth vs 2% in cash is far better.
>>514344269How is a lien on assets for federal reserve notes even relevant, given that the noted can't actually be redeemed?
>>514342646I don't give a fuck about 20 or 30 years ago. I need it to be better than last year.
Delta Meadow
>>514345972So that you can learn what the term "deflation" means?
>>514343258The upwards pressure of zero-rates will be dwarfed by the fear of runaway inflation under a politicized central bank. Look at Turkey for a recent example of what happens when retarded politicians wrest control of monetary policy to chase short term political wins.
>>514346947At least expensive than it was in February-Octobet of 2024, 2023, or 2022.Gas prices have a seasonal component. Also, November-January of 2024/2025, and January of 2024 are the only three months where gas was cheaper than today in the last four years, based on this chart.The tarrifs are bullshit, but don't be a dumbass.
>>514347250Yet Buffet has the majority of his assets sitting in cash right now.
>>514349299It's funny how that works out. Economic policy is one of those areas where "but the people are retarded" criticism of populism holds very, very true.
>>514343919The military power projection is only a piece of the puzzle. Who wants to have significant holdings in US dollars if the value is completely at the mercy of a single retard like trump just deciding to print a trillion to hand out before the election or something?
>>514349621Not having spergouts like Argentina is a big part of why people historically want to invest in the US. At least until 2025.
>>514342204>8 months of an absolute baby-fucking apemonkey running the White House
>>514242747>>514345964>been "protecting" and "safeguarding" the markets for so many decadesthe post-1970s global economy is Financialized, entirely dependent on speculative debt instruments to continually expand gigantic asset bubbles.2008 was the end of 'capitalism' <--died and went to heaven permanently, after those bailouts all HNW entities, corporations, governments, asset markets are 2009-2025 today totally dependent on infinite supplies of debt note fiat currency from private central banks to prevent instant implosion.(watch the recent Tucker interview with Dave Collum to comprehend 80% over-valuation in stocks aka equities)>"The real money to be made in the world today is not by producing anything at all. It's simply by forms of speculating -- basically making money from money. That's the most profitable, and by far and away the biggest form of economic activity in the world today."-- Nick Dearden (quoted in the documentary '97% Owned')
>>514349541Yes. He pulled out 70% last year because his classic indicators are ringing alarm bells. Most of the others are into infrastructure / agriculture companies as they are real wage earning jobs.The economy if on a knives edge. Best to diversify your net worth to be the leat impacted.
>>514345026https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt-to-GDP_ratio
>>514342747If Trump fires Powell, we are Argentina
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/jupiter-sized-rogue-planet-detected-entering-our-solar-system/ar-AA1LjNRFworld is ending the elites know
>>514342204>down 0.6%IT'S OVER
>>514350374Buffett indicator shows the US market is deep in bubble territory right now, nobody wants to admit AI is bullshit because they're making too much money
>>514342204MUHSTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONKS
>>514349541>>514350374>Buffetwatch the recent Dave Collum interview (last fifty mins) w/ Tucker he discusses the ludicrous over-valuation of equities aka stocks for the past half centuryWe exist in a fr la la land. Total fictionwith the establishment finance 'experts' nodding to each other, for decades on end:>'s-stocks always go up'
>>514350653How much of a loser are you to not have a 401k?
>>514350597>15 pbtid>the graph picrelAs mentioned, Collum in the above-mentioned interview discusses some of these long-term over decades metrics (of stock valuations) and indexes in detailWall Street have been playing a kabuki game, in ballroom dance step with the central bank, for decades
>>514350837The graph clearly shows stocks compared to earnings were not overvalued outside of bubble periods, like now, 2008 and 2000Also>listening to Tucker for fucking financial advice
>Anonymous (ID: jDIdIxwE) 6 pbtidclassic example of a Paid Disinformationalist Shill on these macroeconomic topics
>>514350905>16 pbtid Australia flag "for advice"Idgaf about Tucker or Collum (never heard of him before this interview and he's a chemistry professor at Cornell, not a finbro), merely mentioned the interview breaks down much of the total absence of frame of reference, that stocks have had for four decades running.Nobody itt least of all (You) has a clue what they're even discussing.>"clearly shows"(You) have Absolutely Zero Idea what (You) are posting about.
Nobody in this "topic" knows or comprehends what they're posting about.Noneat all
>>514342646>emotionally driven retard investorfigures LOL
>>514342204Its a 4 point difference for both of the examples you showed. It changed by less than 1% but looks massive because you basically zoomed in as much as you possible could. This whole thread is retarded.
>>514346588>tick tockchecked,Skeptical.What are your thoughts anon on the firing of the FRB chair? It's being challenged in court on constitutional grounds,as a Separation of Powers 1-2-3 branches of government (into which the Federal Reserve itself doesn't neatly fall)In other words: if reaches the U.S. Supreme Court level, this could lead to a ruling in which the Federal Reserve's authority as an institution (that needs to be subject to or categorized under one of the Three Branches, and not as a Fourth Branch under its own authority) can be challenged.Please let us know your thoughts. Thanks
>>514351021So you're taking financial advice from someone who doesn't even have a background in finance, but rather chemistry. You're even dumber than you initially seemed
S&P500 will not have anywhere near the same grow over the next 20 years as it did the previous 20
>>514351334>Australia flag 17 pbtidWatch the segment of that interview, come back here and critique his presentation or Permanently STFU.
>>514351340>20 years(You) won't have that long and neither will the rest of us.
>>514350529>leaf 'world is ending'It is, but not by the means implied in that MSN article. (That's just fear porn to distract from what is actually occurring in the real world)
>>514342747The problem with this is that the two things you say are actually inverse each other. When the value of the dollar declines the price on stocks go up. A single share will cost more dollars then before. The crazy thing is the average American has no understanding of dollar exchange rates, during covid trump obliterated the value of the dollar (DXY) which causes prices of stocks to moon and nobody ever mentioned the value of the dollar cratered I have to go through a 2 min captcha timer Everytime to post.. bots pay $20 and get no timer. Worst site
>>514353546This time it's different. Capital is outright fleeing the US. Bond rates are up (low demand for bonds), currency is down and stocks are down which indicates capital flight. Usually people pile into bonds if stocks are too volatile. Now they're abandoning the US altogether.
>>514342204Word about the Jupiter sized rouge planet heading through our solar system is getting out.
>>514351340It will grow more in the next 20 than in the last 20. How much in real terms is the question.>>514353546this
>>514342204Balanced portfolios are performing well. Mining, energy, transportation, utilities and physical gold funds and some equity funds that are, either intentionally or unintentionally, contrarian funds are not particularly glamourous and won't necessarily make you rich, but will hold the value of your portfolio when equities are weak.
>>514353685iirc one of the things that Biden (maybe Trump) has done is to discourage investment overseas by americans though tax policy. So even if the rest of the world's investment is pulled from the US (which I don't quite buy given TSMC's new fabs in AZ, and Samsung's new fab in TX), net investment may not change much.And really that pushes back against the idea that American's should divest from US stocks. There is no other place to sink your money; unless you want to invest in starting up your own concern.Trump's first administration pulled US companies trapped cash from overseas and now tax foreign earnings similar to domestic meaning there is less incentive for them to invest overseas.There are a lot of moving parts right now.
>>514342204>What the fuck is happening.WHAT YOU VOTED FOR IDIOT
>>514355150thank you Warren Buffet
>>514355250What's your plan? Get rich or die trying?
I've lost 30k on the stock market, I think I'm going to just pull out before I lose even more. I should have just kept it in my banks savings account.
>>514354690>Over the past 20 years, the S&P 500 has seen a total return of approximately 700%What are you expecting over the next 20?
>>514342747>The federal reserve board is the only thing protecting the market and USD value
the entire stock market is apple and nvidia. the only people spending on tech are pie in the sky ai fags
>>514355316I was giving you a complimentVery nice you post here at 90 years of age, Warren
>>514342204i hate you stockfags>muh stock goes from 647 to 644>ITS OGREZOOM OUT DIPSHIT
>>514342204Trump died
>>514342204trump ded
>>514355671
>>514342747>The federal reserve board is the only thing protecting USD valueJesus Christ.
>>514342204>-0.63%grow a fucking spine and after that, some balls
>>514355424>I've lost 30k on the stock market,What did you invest in? My mutual fund is up 15% on the year and its very broad and conservative.
>>514355507idk. But I am looking forward into a maelstrom. 'AI', 'AI' applied to engineering problems, real AGI and ASI soon to follow that, trans-humanism, genetic engineering everywhere (including by baddies), humanoid robotics everywhere, population collapse in the west, push back against immigrant flows, probable transition to nuclear, possible fusion introduction, the global order restructuring triggered by trump continuing under Dems too, new weapons tech, space access cheap, global internet everywhere, the surveillance state, increased technological driven social dislocation.That's just stream of consciousness. It may seem like a shitshow, but it isn't anti-growth. I can't predict the future (or the S&P 500), but I think it will be interesting as fuck with plenty of opportunity.
>>514346891why don't you explain what the fuck i will ever need from the UK
>>514355817I lost about 40% of my money selling near the bottom of a bear/short etf I was holding. Zooming out drew a very grim picture. It shot up to my buy price twice afterwards. It's getting near the point of reverse split now, though. After that I've been unable to buy and hold anything. I buy, it goes down, I sell for a loss. It goes up, I hold because I want it to go higher since I need so much. I don't know what I'm doing, people like me aren't designed for investing or trading.
>>514344269if it ever go so bad could they just raise the bank reserve rate to like 50% over time and force "value" to go back up via demand
>>514355734>>514355734The economy line go up! Man this is retarded
>>514355640Mostly this.(refer to the latter part of Dave Collum's recent Tucker interview, for a perspective analysis on it)Stock market / equities for the past four decades, but especially since mid-2010s, has been cotton candy
>>514355992Is this bait. What was the ETF
>>514355992>people like me aren't designed for investing or trading.Don't feel bad. What you should have written was, "People aren't designed for investing or trading".Personally I try never to buy anything I don't understand. So I buy stocks in big companies and cluster in industries I know a little about. Then when things tank, I tend not to freak out and sell - because I own the exact same thing, it is just currently valued differently by the market.
>>514355424>>514355992There's no 'picking tops or bottoms' / 'when to get in / out' in the post-1970s Financialized speculative debt instrument-founded global economy and stocks-equities in particular.Stocks, equities today are a black box gigacasino, as is the entire global investment banking industry. You have to be prepared to be a daily gambler, going in to a casino, to play a probabilities game.>buy and holdIf you want to stave off against devaulation of currency (<--that can't be stopped) get into hard assets. PMs, ammunition, firearms, real estate (<--depending on the region/market, obviously), commoditiesMessing around with options and derivatives is for professional gamblers and fools, onlynot to mention the big stocks S&P500 etc. is totally rigged against retail investors and all entities not plugged into computer Quant auto-trading mainframe
>>514342204>1dFuck off retard
>>514356229>never buy anything I don't understandThis is the main primary advice.If you don't fully comprehend and understand it, none of your assets or money should be put towards it
>>514342204https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7pAOCnL8JI
>>514342204Jews are taking their final profits before their controlled collapse of the US If you have stocks or crypto you will be holding the bag. Gold and silver are king
>>514342204my god....half a percent.
>>514353546>I have to go through a 2 min captcha timer Everytime to post.. bots pay $20 and get no timer. Worst siteworst site eversee u tmw, homey
>>514342204Market regulations went down. Actual industry production had to be accounted for. Dollar collapses. Bitcoin goes down. The small ships drown. The big ships weather the storm.
>>514342204Oh no! My boomer casino line down!>Tax-payer bail outs NOW!>Import more infinity shitskins to intentionally decrease poor people's wages and increase their rents.>Shutter the 10 least performing businesses in my portfolio even though they're all still profitable (but not profitable enough) even if it causes small towns to collapse.>Apply for government subsidies and loans that turn into grants from the poor taxpayers I hate with vehement contempt for making me rich.
>>514344295Fuck you chink
When will the faggot euro shills here realize Americans dont give a flying fuck what you think of us. You’re also our slaves lmao. Sorry, we’re just not going to let you have another world war to finally kill you off for good, though we should, lol
>>514342747Markets cum to lower interest rates
>>514346043Who here is talking about those kinds of assets dumbfuck jeet.
>>514342204It might be a bad thing when one company is worth 7% of the s&p. And there are only like 9 companies that make up 30% percent of it
>>514344097what does that jewish money magic speak mean?
>>514342204>>514342254trump. turns out doubling prices of all products are bad for business.
>>514342355Pretty much this. Unless you got a long red candle on the daily you buy the dip, especially with low vix
>>514342747The mutt currency already dropped by 15%
>>514361940That's financial alchemy son, learn it well. This was 2011 a few years after 08-09 where they tried to restart the financial engine... by stuffing it full of dosh and playing with accounting tricks. It 'werked' until they goyim knew in 2016. Probably sped up a bit with crypto as it was leaking money due to the gamblers not getting returns in stonks that they wanted or needed for their jobs. More money sloshing around usually means inflation, but the fun thing is that we have hit diminishing returns due to the debt so even more dosh will not fix anything and just makes things worse. What happens now is anyone's guess, even if stonks were to go up... whose buying if we are having job losses due to AI?
i love how every dumbass like to pretend they know about the market, but if u asked them if it's going up or down, they won't know...lmaofuckin cocksuckas
>>514362376Oh its going down son, Trump can't save it. It was going to go down next year anyway due to cycles. Might even be earlier due to the tendie indicator. Its worse than covid, so bad that the elite are going to remove tariffs for a bit to try to push it back. Its prob some traitors in gov with chinese aid as the chinese electronic shippers already knew they could sell again by october in the states.
>>514362294>who's buyingWhat everyone needs to pay attention to, instead of the stawk mahket, is bonds.Global debt market is on brink of collapse, has been more volatile and unstable during past 3 years than in half a century.Bank of England couple years ago, had to put bonds back onto its balance sheet (buy them up) to prevent U.K. pensions from total implosion.Nobody wants to buy the debt.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/500310690Entire global system is a Debt-Based Economic Model. Confidence in that foundation backing, of debt (bonds), is rapidly eroding rnKeep watching the bond market
>>514362575>Oh its going down sonsept is usually a shitty month, but i mean in general, nobody ever really speaks in specifics... just be vague so u can say "told u so" like anybody gives a god damn... stock market retards are about the dumbest there is
>>514342204Think of it as an opportunity to buy long positions especially mutual funds that mirror the nasdaq which got fooked today. If you follow the trading strategies that Jews tell their children, you can't go wrong because they control it all and get inside information.
>>514342204OH NO NOT THE STONKS
>>514362660>no one wants to buy debt>keep watching bonds!Bonds ARE debt stonkbot.
>>514362376Maybe that says something. I have > 1M in us stocks and I couldn't tell you what the markets do on the day by day. I don't do day trading.
>>514342204Nothing ever happens. the judeo matrix will endure by a thread.
>>514362575Incoming administration's macro supply side fiscal/monetary agenda plan, is to boost United States annual gdp growth from its current anemic ~2% to around the 4 or 5 percent range. If ?? that could be achieved, which it must in the next 12 to 18 months, then the U.S. might be able to outrun the tsunami of Interest Payments on the debt that is currently inundating the $2T/annum deficits and outstrips federal discretionary spending.Tandem infinite gigaexpansion of fiscal(gov spending) and monetary(central bank+treasury "moneyprinting") policies can not continue; and not just for the United States either. Rubicon has been reached, a major substantive change/re-set must occurConfidence in the global USD-denominated (read: treasuries) debt market must be stabilized and restored, if it is not then the U.S. hits the default Brick Wall within four years or less; and collapse of the global debt market will have occurred long before thathttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/506316301
>>514362764>memeflag 2 pbtidYes keep watching the bond (aka debt) market.
>>514342204Didn't you know?The AI bubble is popping and it will dwarf the Dot Com Bubble by a GIGANTIC margin. Get ready bros.
>OP thinks he would have strong, non-rigged economy after the libtards lost
Gentleman, our beloved 47th american president has died.
>We will see 1 trillions US dollar note in our lifetime
Is this in response to the tariff ruling? Has the AI bubble burst?
>>514342355>buy when the VIX is low
less than 1% drop, what a retarded thread
>>514342204>-.1>-1.0>-1.2>what's happening?nothing.
>>514343551There's an extra layer of risk with the tariffs (or a lot of them) seemingly set to be abolished and refunded. That's revenue the US treasury now won't be earning but which was already all spent and then some to pay for tax cuts in the BBB. I'd expect this to put even more pressure on the dollar and US government debt which means a rate cut isn't just not warranted but rates should probably be going up to counter, but there's no faith that will happen now because of Trump's politisization (this is pretty much exactly what played out in Turkey).
>>514362973Memeflag? This shitty forum refuses to put a Hawaii flag, so I'll rock the rainbow fag flag until you faggots get me one, because I know it irritates you, and they will not give us our flag despite this being basically a different country.
>>514342204>stocks are fucked!!!!>Zooms out>we're actully alrightNothing ever happens
>>514345654The rest of the world could band together to cut out the bullies. I.e. the EU, Canada, Japan, etc. set the rules and free-trading emerging countries e.g. Vietnam, Mexico, Indonesia, etc. get to be part of that trade block without constantly being subject to coercion and instability. The problem is that so many are dependant on the US for security which can't be fixed overnight. The second you get a Democrat or a sane Republican back in the presidency they'll go in this direction since they'll be less afraid of the US stabbing them in the back in the short term.
>>514363347>This shitty forum refuses to put a Hawaii flag, so I'll rock the rainbow fag flag until you faggots get me one
>>514363258>abolished and refunded.lol. lmao even. If perchance the tariffs were judged to be illegal by the supreme court and if the treasury were even modestly stressed by refunding it, the Senate would give ex post facto legitimacy to their collection and not a dollar would be given back to companies.if anything they would just be legally implemented. You somehow think democrats would not pass a tax on companies? You think democrats would not want to increase taxes? They trash tariffs just so they can trash Trump to their moronic base.
>>514342204well its 0.64% off its all time highs
>>514363618I am sure BRICS will be a thing. I am sure other trading blocks will exist too. I also don't think US policy is going to change under a different administration. This is only an unstable moment because a new system is being brought online and the US needs to bootstrap a lot of stuff.In the new world order, you may exist in China's sphere of influence. Good luck with that.
>>514363672>Hawaii is America so therefore should use the US flag on 4chinxSpoken like a true Britcuck that loves his government.
>>514342747Based. Hyper inflation incoming.
>>514363677Given the plain letter of the law, and the fact that two courts now have written exhaustive judgements shooting them down in no uncertain terms, I think it's unlike Trump actually takes the decision to the Supreme Court since a judgement against them could have implications elsewhere. Instead they'll use the appeal window to construct a replacement set of tariffs based on dubious interpretation of other laws, but it will largely remove Trump's free hand in tariffs since alternatives have far more strings attached. But as I understand it that means the tariffs so far will all be refunded since they have been judged illegal. And there is less than zero chance congress gives Trump any new delegated authority over tariffs (and I don't think legally they could retroactively anyway). If anything after the midterms there's the prospect of what remains being clawed back by Congress: any post-midterm version of the Senate would do that, the Dems just need to gain a majority and keep their anti-trade populist side on side (i.e. selling this not as a return to free trade but as removing power from Mad King Trump).
TOTAL MARKET DEATHFUCK BOOMERS I WANT IT ALL RED -99%
>>514363821BRICS never was and won't be a thing. China, India, and Russia in particular are wedded to politicized trade policy and: albeing China and Russia to influence other, India to satisfy domestic political concerns.
>>514342204jews>>514361935
>>514342747Why would the US want an expensive USD when they're trying to reshore manufacturing?
>>514342204The warehouses ran out of surplus stock. Tariff time.
>>514342254/thread
>>514364763Because it means the USD would end as the global reserve. You can have an artificially devalued currency or be the reserve currency but not both. If you could have both, the Chinese yuan would be the reserve currency.
does shtf when silver reaches 50 USD?
>>514364158>(and I don't think legally they could retroactively anyway)Congress makes the laws; they can do what they want. Oh - we have a new one-time-tax that is exactly what we collected and now must be refunded. Thanks! Look at the GM take over for an example of what they can do. (they wiped out senior debt holders).>>Mad King TrumpI can only image the effects on our trading partners as we say we don't want to trade with you as much, but domestically beyond hysterics in the media and the odd supply issues (easily overcome) I have not seen much effect at all of the 'mad king' in markets. Given this, I suspect congress is going to continue to give latitude to Trump on trade policy - in whatever way they need to. The senate in particular is highly interested in maintaining the US's imperial power. Do they have a plan beyond what Trump is doing? Nope.
>>514364676It absolutely will be a big thing. BRICS members may not trust each other, but relying on SWIFT to do business is out. They will continue to work out a trading system outside US influence.
>>514363821>>514364676BRICS is only capable of doing a limited amount of things. It's not de-dollarization, but they can erode and diminish the power/hegemony of the west and USD (<--world's default reserve currency denomination). They don't have a swap-in alternative debt note fiat currency denomination for USD, themselves. Even though there's a lack of trust between their governments, they can bolster up bilateral trade with each other and use of local currencies, along with their central banks making gold purchases to directly replace USD on their balance sheets. In this manner, the BRICS national currencies are sort of like a 'checking' account and their central bank gold deposits a 'savings'. Together, these practices chip away at USD being the primary source of global (debt note fiat currency) demand.It's an incremental, tortoise-paced stepwise process
>>514365286I agree with you.
>>514355992Just buy a big boring mutual fund dude. Something diversified into a bunch of different stocks and just sit on it and watch it grow modestly. If you have some hot stock you have a hunch on then maybe throw 10% or 20% of your funds at it and see what you can do.Don't give yourself the stress.
>>514364763>>514364895>USD>reshoringthis gets back to an offshoot of the Triffin dilemma of global reserve currency denomination(s). Other nations will be holding that world reserve nation's currency as reserves for which the world reserve nation must continue supplying (aka spending into the rest-of-world) their currency, but that nation will also be running trade deficits by doing so.This is one of Trump's own pet topics that he's followed and been passionate about since the 1970s: he simultaneously wants to restore the balance of U.S. trade with rest of world while also keeping valuation of the dollar low so that America "makes the most profit" on the trade (and per Triffin, all those other nations are scrambling for as many USD they can get for myriad purposes even external to trade-with-U.S.)tl/dr the global dollar default-denomination dependency is/becomes everyone's problem
>>514342204Biden did this.
>>514362789>Maybe that says something. I have > 1M in us stocks and I couldn't tell you what the markets do on the day by day. I don't do day trading.correct, and i wish i had that, but whatever, i was born to struggle forever till i eat shit n die
>>514365630The world will just shift to the EUR or Swiss Franc. It’s already started happening if you look at the exchange rates of both compared to the USD. Massive capital flight since January. Nobody is going to put up with their currency reserves losing half their value. China and Japan are already doing a fire sale on their US bonds before Trump makes them worthless
>>514342204s&p went up 15% in a year and you're worried about a 0.6% pullback?
>>514366785>Australia flag 20 pbtid, still Zero idea what he's posting about
>>514364995i tried to sell a 10oz silver bar and the only place in town was only going to give me $70 for itshit isn't easy to offload if u live in a shit town of junk scammers
>>514348003Good goy. Keep chasing those short term gains.
>>514342747>Trump is trying to fire the federal reserve boardDon't threaten me with a good time.
>>514366925They will crash and cause the economy to collapse.
>>514342747>>514367792>firing one of the FRB membersIt could ? be a key constitutional matter soon See (question asked of another anon itt, he didn't answer... unless we can keep this thread bumped until tomorrow) --- # 514351240
>>514365010>The senate in particular is highly interested in maintaining the US's imperial power.Hence their opposition to Trump's tariffs, particularly their use as political leverage (which is a one-time use-it-and-lose-it tool being used to gain basically nothing). The Senate voted IIRC to reject Trump's tariff actions at least against Canada but it had no force since Republican House members are terrified to cross Trump. But it will be much easier for them to just sit on their hands and not hand Trump authority than to actively take it away.
>>514366785There was a redistribution away from the US dollar particularly toward the Euro up until the Eurozone crisis. We will probably see a slow move once again in that direction: the USD's share of debt will diminish, other hard currencies (Euros, Pounds, CAD, Yen, etc.) will increase share.
>>514366925USD devalued 15% already this year wiping out any real gains>>514367577Maybe try closing your mouth and reading before speaking for a chance https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/trump-administration-mar-a-lago-plan-to-weaken-dollar-is-deeply-flawed-by-kenneth-rogoff-2025-05
>>514342204>-0.6%Boomers on suicide watch
>>514368348So they made some noise, scored some political points with their base, and did nothing? I see. 2 more weeks I guess.There is legitimate surprise that Trump's tariffs did not cause massive inflation here. There is emerging grudging respect for some of the stuff he is doing (like pushing for peace in Ukraine). The senate knows we are unable to manufacture weapons at a rate necessary to support Ukraine, much less do much against China. Everybody knows the economics of the US is fucked. Trump won the popular vote, and the opposition party (democrats) are in a sad state.What I'm trying to say is that Trump isn't quite the madman you make him out to be; or rather he is shifting the body of the US to be more inline with his own position. It does not take much to shift the balance of power in the US. He might actually make permanent the changes he is trying to make.If there is even a whiff that these changes are positive this is locked in for a generation. He is only a madman if he fails, and Trump is clearly the last person you want to bet against.
>>514368918>There is legitimate surprise that Trump's tariffs did not cause massive inflation here.The reason for this is corporates are currently absorbing the tariffs so customers don't freak out. They're going to gradually pass them onto the customer and slowly ramp prices as the year goes on (boil the frog).https://www.npr.org/2025/08/21/nx-s1-5509592/walmart-tariff-costs-rising-earnings
>>514345964>greek retard who doesn't understand shit thinks he knows more about economics and currencies than the literal fucking fedfucking L M A Opeak /pol/tard
>>514369117Yes. And? It won't stop this. Its as if you were not listening to the entire debate leading up to Trump becoming president. Prices are going to rise. In exchange there will be an economic future for the average guy on the street in the US. The US model of printing money, financialization, and exporting its industries were gutting its economy. CHYNA. Remember that? Trump is working to accomplish exactly what he ran on doing, and you are surprised?The only open question is what kind and quantity of jobs get created. The left thinks zero, but they are defeatist losers as always. We will have to find out together. I don't think anybody knows for sure.
>>514369117Everyone is afraid to be the first to raise prices since Trump is so unrestrained in his retribution, but it's inevitable it will have to happen. Also companies imported lots of goods before the tariffs those will run out. Terror of Trump can't keep prices from adjusting eventually no matter how much fear there is of crossing him.
>>514342204What's happening is that the markets are becoming less irrational. The stock market is not the economy, and trump's policies treat it as if it is. It's a minigame people play ON TOP of the actual market, but people are generally incapable of seeing it for what it is. That's a great thing for Trump, who fucks over the real economy while handing the stock market a bunch of money. While, as they say, the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent... eventually people will get scared of the failing economy underneath it. That's what's going to happen. Regardless of whether or not the market rallies again (maybe the PPT kicks in again soon) make no mistake -- we are in for some suffering due to massive misgovernance.
>>514342204ZOOM OUT FAGGOT!
>>514342204how is this retarded thread still alive?
>>514369515Its bigger than this, and in some sense the left is right. Since the 90's the wealth has flowed upwards. The balance of wealth is unsustainable. Wages in the US have to rise. Profitability of companies has to fall. In globalization companies figured out they could export all their production to the 3rd world and still charge the same prices, and guess what, that broke things. Trump is the response.
>>514369422The obvious point that is being made here is that the lack of inflation is expected and it will arrive when the prices actually rise, by the end of the year. Inflation will force the fed to make some unpleasant decisions and potentially lead to stagflation. One only needs to look at the late 70s to see how that turned out.
>>514368473>Australia flag Brainlet 22 pbtid hurr durr muh weakened dollar 'muh tariffs!11!11!!11!!!!'Trump has wanted to weaken the dollar for decades (prior to being president) and has done so in office ever since Jan 2017 first term. It's not news (You) stupid 65 IQ sub-retarded fucktard genetic dross spastic descendent of prison rejects.>>514369659it's thanks to Anonymous (ID: xpQNypus) Australia flag Brainlet 22 pbtid
>>514369694Much simpler than that. The era which produced the mythical middle class had a max tax rate of 82%. As we have progressively relaxed taxes (to the point where the ultrarich tend to pay less proportionally than the middle class) and cut social programs which allowed people to save up, we've seen the middle class wither away, almost in direct proportion to the concentration of wealth at the top. What you're framing as a purely political issue is closer to purely economic. The rich have been allowed to simultaneously accumulate greater wealth AND to use that wealth as an avenue into political power. Donald Trump is not a force against this -- in cutting welfare programs to fund MORE tax cuts on the rich, he's just furthering the old dynamic and even accelerating it. Blaming globalization is a red herring -- it's always been social programs which allow the lower classes to have a chance to rise if they want to. It's a zero-sum game. Every program cut to pay for tax cuts on the rich represents something which will now either kill the poor or bankrupt them.
>>514369694>Trump is the responsethat's gay since Trump has done nothing but enrich his rich buddies
>>514369694>balance of wealthGo, right now,to the /pol/ archive.4plebsType in this word:>Financializationmany threads with extensive references, books, documentary filmsAlso, read this post ---------------- 514350342
>>514370000>Every program cut to pay for tax cuts on the rich represents something which will now either kill the poor or bankrupt them.Or, damningly enough... both.
>>514370000>issue is closer to purely economicchecked, correctsee the post here >>514370090 <--follow instructions
Dead presidentz yo
>>514369919If prices are rising, yet that money is being returned to workers though wages, that is a-ok. Wrt the 70's stagflation caused by an oil shock is clearly different than a supply shock causing domestic investment. Lets see cost push and demand pull inflation instead of just printing $ and rewarding those close to the hose. (as was done under Obama and Bernankie trying to drive investment through wealth effects).
>>514342204I love these threads. You guys don't know economics at all. It's hilarious. These happen when the VIX goes ballistic over news events, same happened during liberation day when you fags where screaming 1929. We crashed because of semiconductors having a collapse over China, we hit new all time highs by mid October and then more by December. Stay away from markets, you people are obviously too stupid to understand them.
>>514370000>What you're framing as a purely political issue is closer to purely economic. The rich have been allowed to simultaneously accumulate greater wealth AND to use that wealth as an avenue into political power.It basically is purely political. What isn't? I made a lot of money with Bernankie inflating wealth assets. Thanks Obama! Couldn't stomach voting for the bastard though.Trump is encouraging the formation of a domestic economy that actually makes real things. Want to make money? Make something real, don't just absorb printed $.Fuck your social programs by the way. The greatest disaster in American political hackery was the great society programs that were an abject failure. Make an economy that is functioning, and let people figure out their own problems. Government clearly can't do it. They spent ungodly billions trying since the 1960's and accomplished shit.
>>514342204First day in the market?
>>514342747>haven't even got inflation back to under 2% >drop rates to 0% holy fucking based death to america
>>514370399>You guys don't know economics at allchecked, thisLook at>Anonymous (ID: BFETQFqH) 30 pbtid>blahblahblahblahObamaBernankeImadealottamoney>muh semiconductors muh stawwwwwwwnksAnd neither do (You), retard.
>>514370712Jesus man, the value of art exploded under Obama - as just a place to store $. It was crazy. EZ money.don't take my word for it, take Bernanke's himselfhttps://www.federalreserve.gov/BoardDocs/Speeches/2003/20031002/default.htm"A long-held element of the conventional wisdom is that the stock market is an important part of the transmission mechanism for monetary policy. The logic goes as follows: Easier monetary policy, for example, raises stock prices. Higher stock prices increase the wealth of households, prompting consumers to spend more--a result known as the wealth effect. Moreover, high stock prices effectively reduce the cost of capital for firms, stimulating increased capital investment. Increases in both types of spending--consumer spending and business spending--tend to stimulate the economy. "
>>514370460>Government clearly can't do it.Government DID it. Your ignorance of our history is no excuse... and neither is the fact that you've personally profited. During and in the immediate wake of WWII was a capitalist's nightmare. The government told businesses what to make, how much of it to make. It told citizens what they could buy and how much of it they could purchase. Marginal tax rates were sky-high during the war -- the 82% figure I gave you earlier was postwar. During the war itself, they were north of 90% at the highest brackets. After all of this, with high taxes still lingering, we saw the creation of a broad and strong middle class. We used that wealth to take care of citizens and, paradoxically, saw productivity skyrocket and the birth of a national myth. It is DIRECTLY TRACEABLE to the relaxation of these social programs to the dwindling of the middle class and the concentration of wealth at the top. If you don't want to engage with any of this on the merits, fine. You seem to think that there exists some future America in which the lower classes are pacified without cutting into your bottom line. History paints a different picture. It doesn't matter what Trump is encouraging because it's treating symptoms rather than the root causes: a "fuck you, poors" attitude which attempts to offload the SYSTEMIC sins of the rich onto a shadowy globalist enterprise.Newsflash: with the rich paying their fair share, it doesn't matter who's employed where; if the poor have access to healthcare, education, and housing security, they're going to have more space to contribute to the economy. I get the feeling that underneath all your rhetoric, as always, is the same old red line: "fuck you, not my problem."
>>514363148That's just a volatility index or am I getting it wrong? It rises in mass sell off or mass buy in, otherwise it stays smooth and calmHow does one use that as an indicator for deciding whether stocks go up or down?
>>514371017Yeah anyway, the folks on tv say this, and what do you do? YOU BUY STOCKS AND FRONTRUN THEM - and unironically, that is exactly what they want you to do.Note the difference between this financialization and what Trump is trying to do. Trump is trying to shift the economics of where it makes sense to do production. He is trying to cause factories to be built domestically. He is trying to create jobs by creating structural incentives and removing disincentives.You can lead lefties to water, but you can't make them drink.
>>514370460Also, what do you think McCarthyism was really about? Why is it that there was such a strong socialist movement in the 50s and 60s? Because it fucking worked, and because people were watching programs start to get cut and big business start to take the reins. People put two and two together and made the RATIONAL evaluation that what we had during WWII was recognizably socialist... and that it fucking worked. Therefore, capitalists ran a psy-op: make socialism not just a dirty word but an ideology of enmity fundamentally contra-American. It's the substrate from which what we have now, which is only accelerating under Trump, became immanent.
>>514371263>5 pbtid(You)'re a berniebro, are you not
>>514368217He only needs to get rid of the negress. Powell's term is up and they have ass kissers ready for both positions.
>>514342747Kill yourself
>>514371343>ur a [EASILY DIGESTIBLE CATEGORY] innit... dat aint NORFI'm someone who has strong opinions and finds occasional cause to endorse certain candidates based on contemporary conditions on the ground.
>>514371437Your core ideology causes only misery and pain. That is the sum total of the progressive existence. They are incapable of forming functional civilizations.
>>514371363>Australia flag "get rid of"It is being fought tooth and nail in courts. (beyond the FRB/Federal Reserve itself) Deep administrative state isn't going to relinquish its position, and as indicated this will be fought in appeals all the way to United States Supreme Court if needed/necessary.And well it should. Because this topic can call into question the legitimacy of the quasi-governmental FRB and the Federal Reserve itself.In other words: deep administrative state must be careful what it wishes for here
>>514371547I don't have a "core ideology." I can understand why you'd be invested in believing that (easier to pooh-pooh a prefab doctrine than engage in discussion on the merits) but in this case it's not true.
>>514371437What are (You) then(You)r posts are berniebro 100%(disaffected natch after August 2016, but still)There is not going to be another national United States 'socialist' major candidacy from any party.That era is dead and gone forever. Sorry you had to learn about that on 4chanp.s. Mamdani is a front for globalism
>>514371656I'm me. If you want to know what I think, I've written a bunch of posts for you to see it for yourself.
>>514342204Buy signal.Money is literally fake and inflated, don't be stupid. Now is the time to buy and profit.
>>514371691Yeah and (You)'re berniebro disaffected socialist(DSA, blahblahblah whatever label anyone wants to slap on it)If you want socialism move to Europeget out of the United States(You)'ve been warned
>>514371620You are regurgitating/rehashing intellectual nonsense that was discussed ad-nauseam from 2015 onward. The result of those political discussions lead to trump's victory in the primary and winning the presidential election twice (well thrice). Nothing you say or think is particularly interesting.
>>514346391>Always buy stonks low and sell high. Also buy the dip.I read that in Hank Hill's voice in my head
>>514342204the global economy is going to decentralize and restructuring is never healthy. You don't go from a consumption/service based economy to a production based economy and NOT see a downturn in value during the transition. It's healthy for the long term. Try not to freak out, you're broke anyway.
>>514371816>result of those political discussions lead to trump's victory in the primary and winning the presidential election twice (well thrice)This is the message he and all berniebros need to comprehendThe American 'working class' has *permanently* been lost to nationalist populism (of the maga-trump variety)Dividing Date : August 2016, when Bernie S. stated>"vote for her"was the Final Straw. The End. Period
>>514342424>42424staggered digits. fours over twos.
>>514371916>decentralizeExcept from USD being the default global reserve currency denomination, that's not changingUntil total collapse of the global debt market (primarily denominated in USD aka treasuries) which is imminentSee posts ^^^^^upthread
>>514371793Have you noticed how you're unable to interact with me without first trying to find (and then arbitrarily creating, despite all evidence to the contrary) a category into which I fit? A lot of political discourse has become this: a group of people feeling out the superstructure of each other's beliefs and arguing past each other against those superstructures. I explicitly reject that framing. If you want to continue this discussion, feel free to respond to my argument. >>514371816Yeah, that's one way to do it -- whip up some kind of extraneous frame (in this case, "we've already talked about this... boooooring!") and leverage dismissiveness to socially engineer the impression of your desired outcome instead of actually attaining it. Look, man, we've both probably done this dance dozens of times. You and I both know that we are talking about all of this and in this register despite -- and because of -- the fact that I've got four or five posts full of points you can't address. I'm not convinced, to put it lightly.
>>514371927The crazy thing is that we actually want a lot of the same things in the end, but unfortunately he is an economically illiterate shithead along with all of his other shithead friends.
>>514372037just lurk more
>>514372149>dude just slurp up the orthodoxy instead of thinking wrongthink!No thanks.
>>514372223Its more about not demanding to be spoon-fed like a petulant child. But given your ideology, that may not compute.
>>514370460>Trump is encouraging the formation of a domestic economy that actually makes real things. Want to make money? Make something real, don't just absorb printed $.lol you are RETARDED or a MAGATARD if you think the many industries which left America are ever coming back in any meaningful fashionjesus fuckin christ
>>514372037I don't want or need to 'interact' ? with (You) because>1. (You)'re an ideologue>2. (You)'re clueless about the post-1970s Financialization of the global economy>3. (You) suffer from a severe affliction of Dunning-KrugerHere is my "offer" to you and also to all readers of this thread—Learn how money is created.Following are two outstanding superb resources to do so, watch enjoy and take notes:The Money Delugehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6m49vNjEGs97% Owned — How is money createdhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4YoAfter viewing and studying these two documentaries, share them with others and attempt to make a change in your steadfast ideological adherence that clouds and compartmentalizes your thinking. Instead concentrate on the real threat to and power structure that lords over and chokes humanity: Financialization and central banksYeah don't scroll past this post, retard, and reply with another snark-remark. Study those two documentaries closely, learn from them>>514350342>"The real money to be made in the world today is not by producing anything at all. It's simply by forms of speculating -- basically making money from money. That's the most profitable, and by far and away the biggest form of economic activity in the world today."-- Nick Dearden (quoted in the documentary '97% Owned')
>>514365585I just bought $100 each of SCHD & VTI. Plans is to buy more each month for the next 30 years or so. This is my first foray into investing. I just want to be comfortable at retirement. My line of work exposed me to how bad things can get off you didn't set yourself up upon retiring. People living off of less than $1500 per month SSI. It's sad, but that won't be me.
>>514372462How many industrial facilities do you own? I am in the process of purchasing my 2nd.
>>514351140Who's the emotionally driven investor? Zoom out anons or you, crying about short-term fluctuation?
>>514342204Tech is massively inflated. So is housing. So is medical. It's all a sham. Only a small percentage of Americans even invest in the market. It was always a bubble. And now crypto will crash for good. And gold and silver will rise as the US dollar dies.
>>514372722checked,an implosion is coming yes.Global debt (aka bond) market. That is what everyone (even the stawkbros itt) needs to watch more than any other asset class
>>514372625i don't give a shitAmericans aren't going to pay the insane prices of domestic product across the board, unless Trump is bringing in nonstop jeet workers along with the migrant workers kept in the fields and then fuckin some, but it's still not going to work and you expose your idiocy and MAGATARD braini hope you die in your sleep
>>514372893>unless Trump is bringing in nonstop jeet workers along with the migrant workers kept in the fields and then fuckin someThere are going to be a lot of robotics.But seriously, why don't you get a blue collar factory job? It will pay well, have good benefits, they will train you. Some things robots can't do well.
>>514351240>What are your thoughts anon on the firing of the FRB chair?just dissolve the Fed
>>514342747This guy is a bot, right?
>>514342204you lost tranny
>>514363853>Hawaii is a different countryThen secede from the union. Oh wait, you won't. Your entire island group is pozzed and chock-full of chinks, and you suffer a homelessness crisis. You have zero political power and your populace is falling apart. To say you're worse-off than California is an understatement. You chinks couldn't even keep your coral alive. You're a national embarrassment, yet you come grovelling to 4chan to give you a flag? That's hilarious. You deserve nothing. Don't think we weren't watching what happens in Hawaii, just because we're separated by an ocean.
>>514373488>dissolve the Fedchecked, ok yes anon that's what we itt wantI asked in the post about the FRB board member (incorrectly said "chair") the woman—Lisa Cook—that committed mortgage fraud. Where do you think <--that's headed? (they're going to fight it tooth and nail)>https://rumble.com/v6y8fuihttps://rumble.com/v6y8fuiI think that it is headed to the U.S. Supreme Court, which possibly ? might make a ruling about the Constitutionality of the Federal Reserve itselfthat yes, might ? lead to dissolving the Federal Reservethanks for your reply and posts itt <thumbs up>
>>514373721>guy is a botAustralia flag 23 pbtid? if not he's some kind of Paid Shill
>>514342204When S&P500 line goes down, you buy
>>514373830i know what you were askingi am tired of even entertaining KEEPING THE FED AT ALLlet the treasury assume its roles
>>514342487correctjust all those uncovered debt speculators closing their loans and refinancing with cheaper loans their speculation on uncovered debt.oh wait, well no, this time its happening as the refinanced loans main collateral, children to enslave is deflationarysee you freaks at spx 800
we need a full return of the currency to the people
>>514373983We'll see.imho, this Lisa Cook thing may indeed lead to what we want: End the Fed
>>514373983>lets give the alcoholic the key to the breweryahaha fucking communist; the hyperinflation comes one or another way and the reasult is slaughtering of (you)
>>514374085is it you anon?
>>514374074sureAs long as the global debt market stays solvent>the party goes on forever
Bouncing off of the top isn't exactly "fucked", but if you go and look at the Bitcoin price (which I generally like to use as a sentiment indicator that beats the markets by a few days) it's gone down a fair bit. Probably some underlying deterioration is starting.
>>514374076there wont be a currency reform. for a currency reform to suceed you need at the very least 75% trust in the institutions by those getting scammed; the trust in institutions including boomers is at 38%, removing boomers and its drops to 15%there wont be a currency reform
>>514374148yes it's me ----------- >>514350342>>514362660
>>514374114lol the nerveaustria chiming in>vee have ze best chez
>>514374156its over. Trump had one job, deflate or die, he chose to be a boomer; and the blame is going to beput on György soros and his sonthe debt maret is tilt. it was tilt in 2019, the last hope was to currency refom into cbdc and crapto shit; it failed
>>514374178the fed is a private contractor that is about to be fired
>>514374215yeah oki just woke upi have to work todayi will be back tonighti am working on part 4 of 4keep going anon i also am reading you on the archive daily
>>514374278the fed has a higher trust rating then the organization of the executive, even with trump in office the fed is 40% ahead of the government. Only communist want to end tzhe fed, because no matter if socialist, new libearl or nazi, the idea is >gibs me power over currency so Me cn finance my particular progressive scamsorry bud, the public is deflationary, nobody gets away this time
>>514342204>stocks went down 0.5%>omg the west has fallen
A reminder, Federal Reserve Notes are what are being issued to worthless oblivion and>the US dollar is a fucking UNITWe need to AGAIN issue debt-free, Treasury-issued US Notes like we did before (and during) the bloodsucking, obsolete Federal Reserve. We need to AGAIN issue debt-free US Notes that are pegged to a basket of commonly-used weighted commodities, distributed by a series of state banks.We can:1 nationalize Fed banksOR2 dissolve Fed and have a series of state banksOR3 issue US Notes simultaneously AGAIN and eventually recycle worthless Federal Reserve Notes out of circulationOR4 YOU CAN RIGHT NOW: use cash/barter/stack/use credit unions/use cold wallets, these five things IMMEDIATELY transfer power directly to the peopleUSE CASH, NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN, cash IMMEDIATELY puts the power in the hands of the people. Real paper cash:>is permissionless>is private>is anonymous>has no transaction fees>works in power outages>doesn’t need the internet>don't need to be a coder to use it>doesn't depend on another party having a device>everyone knows exactly how much they have>has no transaction limits or thresholds for reporting>money laundering is harder with physical cash, due to transport>is inclusive, it does not see race>is harder to use in ransoms>can’t be hacked>don’t need to remember a password to use it>IS the ultimate in payment platforms>using cash helps people to save money and budget>puts the power directly in the hands of the people >keeps the currency near the REAL goods and services>less paperwork>is face to face, not face to screen>makes government theft harder>using cash forces the debt-based Federal Reserve to serve the citizensBoycott businesses that do not take cash.NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY. Barter is the real torpedo to these fucking clowns.
>>514374399>the fed has a higher trust rating then the organization of the executivelolholy fuck you can't be real>lazy skimmers dread real price discovery
>>514374265>in 2019We are still in the six-year collapse that began in August 2019, the overnight repo investment bank black hole:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMkq75L5n_kElizabeth Warren was on Capitol Hill Sept 2019 "wtf is going on here" almost $1T in bailouts dished out Sept-Dec 2019magically though in January 2020 along came covid, never-in-human-history global lockdown and another $12T in liquidity to continue the global investment banks' black box casinoSix years later, we're still here but global debt has increase by almost one-third additional magnitude, and Interest Payments on U.S. national debt have outstripped discretionary spending
>>514374521Yeah this thread has some dooziessee you on the next one, be well anon
Just get it out of your heads that you can ever store value in currency. Just treat it as a mechanism of exchange and trade. All currencies fail. Governments devalue.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtFyP0qy9XU
>>514374521executive median trust is at lower 20%; including boomerFED and central banks in general are at higher 30%, including boomer
>>514374528Trump had one job; deflate or dieHe chose to be a Boomer and death.No, anybody that bet on Trump being the key to get a currency reform through was likely high on his own supplyno currency reform with 80%+ mistrust among the active population
>>514374799>Austria flag 7 pbtid(You)'re clueless
>>514374579that aus anon is fucking hilariousbut this aus anon is what the dumbest boomers will be syaing when this all starts to hit the fanthey will be the saying the same exact stupid shit, such as:>the Fed is our partnerremember he does represent all aus anonsmost are very smart
The tariffs were ruled illegal so you are getting chaotic repositioning. Markets are always biased towards sell off during an event. Because it’s all a global scam. Stock trading is a fucking scam for gamblers. Only the CEOs benefit because they are selling invisible paper. They know the tariffs are dead so the speculation ended. It doesn’t matter what direction. There is no way for 99% of investors to predict market direction easily. It is chaos and gambling for the people getting screwed, while people behind Trumps or Pelosi investments somehow still make a killing. They are manipulating the market or have inside info, then dump on any news good or bad.
>>514374862>buy my bag80% mistrust among the active population means you wont find anybody working for your currency as it is more rational to hunt (you)so the credit line is instantly gone bye bye>b-but the gibermint will buy da debt>end le feddie. there was the option of you living and deflating, but you chose death
>>514374711lollet us see your proofholy fuckonly the lazy are going to be uncomfortablefirst world and third world are about to become second worldi call this the great eveningi'd fucking buckle up if i were you
>>514374969you have fucking nothing but textlet us see your polls of fed credibility lol
and don't think i don't know about your failed JOINT EUROPEAN DEBT AUCTION
>>514375017you could use an llm to get the numbers, you could use a search engineBUT you decide to stay delusional in your boomer bubblethe debt is not covered, overnight is going to moon, the same narrative is going to be tried again and you are going to wonder why this time it isnt just wendys burning
>>514375053>>514375125
>>514375125>you could use an llm to get the numbers, you could use a search enginei am not a boomeryou have nothingyou just talk>the debt is not coveredoh but it is lol
The Fed Reserve’s Board of Governors are nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The Fed’s Board of Governors is a neutered and ineffective regulatory body, and under regulatory capture by the NYFed.The 12 Federal Reserve Regional branches are the public franchisors, public franchisors which sell private franchisee stock to private banks in their region.The private banks buy stock in their regional Fed franchise, private stock which earns dividends of 6% annually. The NYFed is the largest and most powerful regional Federal Reserve branch franchise. It conducts all trading for the Federal Reserve and is custodian for its assets. Its biggest shareholders are the private big banks, aka the primary dealers, that issue our currency in the form of bond debt, who are the market makers for these US treasuries and since 2008 have been using those treasuries and QE to counterfeit our currency.The Fed likes to confuse the publicly-appointed Fed Board of Governors with the privately-incorporated shareholders of the 12 regional Fed franchises, so people don’t realize we are paying private banks to borrow our own currency at interest. Pic relatedwe are going to fire the fucking broke fed
>>514375279you are definetly a boomer. your entire conception of finance seems to be built around the delusion of all progressives, that the "state" is all knowing and has a financial perpetumobiole that is supposed to benefit you personally from birth to, in your case dying in a an unmarked mas graveyou are a boomer
>>514375310please tell me this picture does not really arouse someone
>>514375355not even close by decades
>>514375395you are a boomerBoomer is the Nigger word of this century, nothing to do with age, just a reference to the most stupidest greed gen ever dying in masses killed by their childrenBoomer, get ready to be culled
>>514375355>in your case dying in a an unmarked mas graveyou are full of yourselfthat is your first problemMoney is often falsely equated with productivity, intelligence, class, success, integrity, and/or good taste. If you equate success with money, you will likely be perpetually dissatisfied, in a constant state of longing.But if you VALUE THINGS WHICH CANNOT BE BOUGHT, such as:communityfamilywork ethicintellectfitnessperseverance cleanlinesshonestyintegritycompassiontraditionloyaltyreliabilitypatiencehumorIf you value the above, you will always be content and successful, no matter where you are or what you do.Judge yourself by deed, not possession.Money does not make food.Labor, Seeds, Land, Air, Sun, and Water make food— we have ALL of these things WITHOUT fucking money. If you remove JUST ONE of these items, YOU WILL NOT HAVE FUCKING FOOD. MONEY DOES NOTHING BUT ACT AS A QUANTIFIER FOR FUCKING TRADE.We cannot have unearned income AT THE EXPENSE OF earned income. Finance must be the servant of production, not its master.
>>514374956>stocks and tariffs Are not what you or anyone ought be paying attention to rn
>>514375508your posts are utter drivel and only remind me how much easier this is going to be
>>514342747[spoiler] lol [/spoiler]
>>514375355>. your entire conception of finance seems to be built around the delusion of all progressives,LOL
>>514375558would you buy the debt of a organization whose population is deflating and leaving uncovered debt 500%+ of the assumed output nonobody else does eitherthe "state" cant survive sucking its own dick and calling it a meal
>>514375527lolget fucked communistyou gonna have a baaaad time
>>514375703the fed is a private contractorthey are all doneit is inevitablethey are just trying to squeeze $2B/week out as long as they canpic definitely fucking relatedagain:notice on the top half of pic rel the NYFed squeezes out the citizens' currency and pays its ilk insteadit clearly prioritizes enriching its private owner banks over the citizens having a currencywhy doesn't trump ever mention this?b/c fucking trump thinks the Fed is the housethe FUCKING US TAXPAYER IS THE FUCKING HOUSE
>>514375802>Give the alcoholic the key to the brewerry>what do I care if inflation goes 1000% a day>as long as I get my shotkys communist
>>514375839those wishing for the Fed are low grade communists
>>514375914>I want my liquidity>what do I care whose losing>I HAVE TO WINkys communist, well you get killed. trumpy failed to deflate
Daily reminder:The State Capitalist/Communist Regime of the Federal Reserve UnipartyThere is Free Market Capitalism, which we do NOT practice. This is when you have competition & the rewarding of success.We practice State Capitalism (low-grade communism) in which the central bank rewards their buddies whether or not they are successful. They also launder their worthless Federal Reserve Notes into real assets while doing so, which are then held by their private corporation. This is State Capitalism.Again, NOT to be confused with free market capitalism, which is probably only truly practiced somewhere in the Andes.The Federal Reserve is a group of 12 private, incorporated, regional franchises (they can each be sued) & is the driving force behind the corporate takeover of our government. State Capitalism (aka low grade communism directed by the central bank):>the state has considerable control over the allocation of credit & investment>planning to protect & advance the interests of big business against the interests of consumers.>government controls the economy & essentially acts like a single huge corporation>publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling sharesThe Fed con laid out in 105 posts.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/306098770/Correction in archived thread: change mortgagee to mortgagorFed info & links to house & senate crypto summaries:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/329381702/Criminal activities of the NYFed's primary dealershttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/342538518/The NYFed investing in China:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/359651784/#359683568Ukraine & its owner, the NYFed: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/373203255/Fed thread: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/389999787/June 2023 Fed thread: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/428705533/The irony here is that we are, in real time right now, witnessing the failure of low grade communism, aka state capitalism.
>>514375973get lost communistthe end of this game is determinsitic as YOU miss the trust and the propaganda toolsBurning communists and bureaucrats - if it was funded publicly its going to die
>>514375962your posts don't even make senseas i have said a hundred times beforeif this is the best you have, you're going to loseoh, that's right, you're already losing pic rel lol
>>514375962>Austria flag 16 pbtid "trumpy failed to deflate"Seek help
>>514376065>I want to give "elected" party communist power over currency>I expect MY GUYS TO WINkys communist
The world has been hijacked by a cabal of meritless, elitist classists, financed by central banks, 'mergering and acquisitioning' their way to the top of each industry, only to dismantle and destroy each sector with greed and if not greed, incompetence, when any part of the system is placed under pressure. We are now witnessing the results of said cronyism, incompetence and monopolistic corporate avarice, especially with coronavirus response, central banking ponzi fraud/wealth extraction and the endgame policies of liberal hellhole cities.The NYFed is destroying our country from the inside out. 'Quantitative Easing' is the rigging of the treasury and housing markets by the NYFed's repurchase/resale of US treasuries and MBSs. QE aids in the disproportionate misallocation of working capital mostly to the financial markets. At some point, this becomes sedition, as the NYFed is undermining the power, the roles and the ability of both the US Congress and the US Treasury to perform their stated missions, which is to work for and represent the US people by issuing currency and regulating its value.It is way past time to dissolve the debt-based Federal Reserve central banking scheme.200 post thread:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/403417962/#403466964~180 post thread from April 2023:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/428705533/
>>514376158KYS communistyou want the treasury not to just print like drunken sailorsBut to as well at the cost of unborn children BUY the vomitKYS
The NYFed’s MO is shifting financial obligations to the people:>NYFed bought Ukraine in 2014>NYFed/IMF cartel funds Privat bank in Ukraine beginning in 2014>NYFed associate/Oligarch Kolomoisky steals money from Privat bank>Privat Bank then fails and gets nationalized>now Ukrainian taxpayers are on the hook for broke bank>Ukraine forced to beg for new loans from the NYFed and its wallet, the IMF, who now use Ukrainian farmland for even more collateral for their outrageous international bank loansThe more strife and infighting, the easier it is for the NYFed/BIS/IMF cartel to loot the TARGET NATION.Pic related:’Large-scale, coordinated fraud' becomes 'capital problems' kekAlso, do note how they talk up their new surveillance-state CBDC and digital IDDid the whole fucking world just forgot these are criminals? NO, IT'S MORE LIKELY THEIR CRIMINAL FRIENDS ARE NOW IN THE GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE NO LONGER CONSIDERED THE FUCKING CAREER CRIMINALS THAT THEY FUCKING ARE.These people rely on CORRUPTION to thrive.We all need to BE the standard that we want to see. We need to be better than the next person at all times, when no one is watching.have a nice day austria anon
>>514376245AHAHAH>LETS UNITE FELLOW COMMRADESjes you cant get out of your role commie bastard
