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>>514778738
It was written by Jews, what do you expect?

>>514778738

nah it's more of people in power positions trying to mobilize and control the cattle by pretending their ramblings are ordained by God. it works. politics isn't much different. government isn't much different.

>>514778852
Is this a jewess? Absolutely worth genociding for.

>>514778738
As opposed to what.. thinking men can be woman, thinking gay people have rights?

>>514779022
She's Argentinian. OP is from Argentina, so I used that as an excuse.

>>514778738
filter working as intended, you know?

>>514778738
What exactly is "schizo" about it oh wait you won't answer because this is low-quality 1pbtid bait.
>>514778796
The first post is the first reply retard

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>>514779105
indeed

>>514778738
If somebody knows about literature they wouldn't take you seriously, midwit.

ecclesiastes pretty good, but i guess its greek and not jewish. within the context of the axial revolution, it feels like a parent forced to kick their kid out of the house

>>514778852
Sexo

>>514779124
Ill answer if OP doesn't
All religions are cults. Period.
Every "messiah" religion with mystical/magical myths are scams and the reason why cuckianity and pisslam exist to this day is because we cannot disprove the so called messiahs anymore because they lived too long ago.
Magic doesn't exist, never has existed and never will exist. Therefore religion cannot exist and you are all just bunch of fucking brainwashed cultist retards who cannot admit they are being manipulated because human ego is too great of an obstacle to overcome by yourselves.
Feel free to cope, sneed or dilate.
Feel free to call me a jew, idc.

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>>514778738
Yes, to know God is to know madness because God is on some Cthulhu shit.
Normies just can't do it.

>>514779697
>All religions are cults. Period.
wow it's almost like that's the literal etymology of the word

>>514779051
These are the western leftist atheism concepts i suppose.
Global atheism is more like believing in your own strengths and trying to live your life your own way.
I am an atheist and i don't like any of this generacy, yet i also don't feel the need to become a fanatical cultist either

>>514779697
>Magic doesn't exist, never has existed and never will exist.
Very low IQ statement.
Magic would be the paranormal.
The word paranormal means "Outside of scientific explanation or normalcy".

To claim the paranormal doesn't exist is retarded because you are saying nothing exists beyond scientific explanation or normalcy, that science when you're alive just so happens to know everything.
We haven't even explored the depths of the sea or found all the rare earth elements yet, dumb science fag.

>>514779795
>Global atheism is more like believing in your own strengths and trying to live your life your own way.
No Anon that's LaVeyan Satanism. Global atheism is more like being a godless drone to corporate power structures that, for some incredible reason, act almost exactly like a Faustian nightmare. Frankly I'd prefer the Satanists.

>>514779854
You're arguing with a midwit, Anon, the type of dumb son of a bitch that doesn't realize blacksmithing and pharmacology were once considered mystical esoteric practices. Alchemists sought a way to turn lead into gold. We have particle accelerators that can do that. The miraculous has become firmly mundane, and the human spirit has dulled with it.

>>514779153
they be like: rapture is coming cuz muzzies bout to crash out with long term nukes cuz no peace without the prince of peace
I be like: sure.

>>514780031
reminder that the rapture is non-canon fanfiction, like the nine circles of hell

>>514778738
Did God create the brain or did the brain create God?

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>>514779933
Sometimes you can smarten up a dumby.
Other times people can read what you said to the dumby and get smarter.
But 100% of the time you can crystalize your own ideas and thoughts and learn from the dumby by using the dumby as a foil.
This is why I shitpost with midwits.

>>514780116
Fair enough.

>>514780060
nah, they talk about it too much. God doesn't play about that, seriously. There's all the money in this. I mean 2 in the field one is taken verse. Yeah, you just take it one verse at a time. Christians getting nuked during World Anti-Fascist War could be getting raptured or not being an asylum seeker when you could have could be getting raptured.

>>514779933
Nothing either of you said proves magic is real or God is real you just posted a bunch of word salad you think sounded good and said “midwit”.

>>514780741
Anyone that uses the phrase "word salad" in reference to a post composed of cogent English is most definitely a midwit.

>>514781038
A dimwit. I am lacking in several mental areas but your post was perfectly readable.

>>514781038
Okay but you still didn’t show that God or magic was real just because I misused the term word salad. Mystics are still dumb.

>>514778738
Wait until you see the Talmud.

>>514778738
STFU Jewmund Fraud

>>514778738
yes jews are schizos and riddled with taysachs due to generational inbreeding, nasty vermin.

>>514779051
There's more to the world than le bible and liberal gender studies, faggot. Learn to dao, learn to jung. Expand your horizons beyond jewish nonsense.

>>514783081
Oh spare us all the bullshit, we all know your "religion" is lgbt and homosexuality. Thats the "religion" of the anti-christian.

>>514783081
Tell me would you rather live in a society full of faggots and troons with a "do what thou wilt" mentality, or a Christian society that teaches proper values, doesn't pray on the weakest like lgbt/satanic groups do.. teaches virtue, proper word and reward along with nothing being a hopeless piece of shit that can't keep their feelings in check. I know what i'd pick, and we need to go back to that time and open mental asylums while we're at it for all the mentally unstable folks walking around.

>>514779124
>God commanded me to cook my food over burning human shit - Ezekiel

>>514778738
Rabbi thread.

>>514779854
>Magic would be paranormal
No, magic would be magic, as in "turning water into wine" and "rising from the dead"
These things you egoistic christfaggots believe in are easily debunked in the modern age with research and detective work, yet people got easily con'ed 2000 years ago when they didn't know better, just like modern day cults.
The fact that me saying magic doesn't exist pissed you off so much is the classic response from a cultist whose beliefs were insulted and by extension their ego got hurt.
Cope seethe dilate faggot, or better yet, go PRAY that something bad happens to me, let's see if it does fuckall to me lmao
>>514779933
Thanks for saying the facts that are known for everyone with elementary school educations, i got taught about the dark ages in 6th grade, i think?
Anyway, what people believed during dark ages don't change the fact that magic doesn't exist and never has and never will be. Particle accelerators are the result of human science evolution, not magic like you cultists believe. Thanks for insulting my intelligence tho, bonus reddit points to that.

Theres so many stories in the bible of characters hising their identity and pretending to be something theyre not. Its quite strange these were supposed to be our heroes for the longest time.

>>514779866
Guess Estonia is full of satanists with good morals and distaste for western degeneracy then, hooray..

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>>514784094
Christians are cucks who have fully bent the knee to jews through continued tolerance of them alone. I don't give a fuck about abrahamics. They had their chance to create a jesus worth following and they blew it through fragmentation. It's dead weight as an ideology. The world wars happened when Europe was vastly Christians, btw. Their proper values didn't prevent millions dead in Christian against Christian warfare.

>>514784274
>criticize jewish holy book and jewish prophets as schizos
>YOU ARE THE JEEEEEWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
someone got his brain fried by jewish bullshit

>>514778738
Even the parts believers try to push as mythologized history like the Exodus or the unified kingdom ever existing are not
>>514779124
>What exactly is "schizo" about it
When the voice in a guy's head tells him to murder his son then he realizes "no, no, I shouldn't murder my son, I should cut his dick". Take it out of myth and imagine it happened today, guy goes up a mountain to ritually murder his son because God told him to then comes down the mountain telling everybody that actually God wants everybody's dicks to be cut. He'd be in prison for being a violently insane person.

>>514779854
>nothing exists beyond scientific explanation or normalcy,
Which is correct. Everything can be explained and observed and studied, it doesn't matter if it hasn't been yet. There was a time paleontology didn't exist but the fossils were there they just hadn't yet been analyzed. There was a time before powered flight did it used to be paranormal?

>>514784094
>Christian society that teaches proper values,
Christianity teaches that nothing you do in life matters, that you are inherently guilty, that you can be forgiven for anything. That's proper values to you? To me it's vile immorality
>doesn't pray on the weakest like lgbt/satanic groups d
What the fuck are you talking about? Christianity is all about preying(this type of "prey" is spelled with an "e", tardo) on the weak. Man is at his lowest say " you need a bit of Christ to pick you up".

Proof the Bible is the word of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVI
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” (1 Cor. 15:3-4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc
Jesus Christ is God who came to earth from heaven in the flesh. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and is now in heaven. Do you regret your sin? You're a sinner according to God, but the blood atonement of Jesus Christ is sufficient to wash your soul from all sin eternally. Do you want to be redeemed with the sinless blood of The Lord Jesus Christ? “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Romans 10:9)

Jesus said: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." (John 10:28)

God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Either choose this evil world and be punished along with it, or choose to submit to the will of God and be saved. Your own deeds, no matter how good you think they are, can NEVER justify you. You're corrupt and need to be saved. “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” (Romans 5:9). Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in what HE did for you. Only He can wash away all of your sins with His blood. Salvation is a gift, it can't be earned. Do you choose your righteousness or the righteousness of God?

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Eph. 2:8-9)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbPchtYsXNo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS78mFJcvhQ

>>514787085
>He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin.
that's literally old pagan concept, beat and sacrifice a black goat that takes sins of all tribe on itself

And you people try to sell this caveman nigger retardation as some highest noblest idea.

>>514787068
>Christianity teaches that nothing you do in life matters, that you are inherently guilty, that you can be forgiven for anything. That's proper values to you? To me it's vile immorality
I don't know who taught you Christianity, but holy fuck you got it all wrong. Christianity is hope, it's a light against the dark.. theres a reason our ancestors came together under the banner of Christ and defended Europe multiple times instead of isolationg ourselves in tribes so that the enemy who was organized could steamroll over us.. i don't know why you larpagans keep this glamorous image of everyone co-existing, and everything just being White and dandy, it's simple thinking for people who people men can be woman and vice versa. You claim to be so intelligent and intellectuals yet nothing you display in terms of history, or why Christianty became a dominating force matters to you, it seems like to me that you just want it your way like childen.. and thats not how it works.

>>514788350
>I don't know who taught you Christianity
What church is teaching you this hope bullshit? That's not any Christianity I've seen from any church or scripture
>Christianity is hope
In "the next life". We are hopeless on Earth. But "the next life" doesn't fucking exist that's the problem
>dark.. theres
Your typing is awful to read.
>larpagans
LARP is an acronym you braindead retard
>why Christianty became a dominating force
Jewish subversion is why

>>514786456
But you're the one thats gonna wake up tomorrow and see churches around you, and i got a feeling you'll get a Christian burial when you die.

>>514788632
Why do you faggots have to be so hopeless and despressive all the time?.. You can bitch and moan about Christianity till the day you die, it will change nothing.. you are fighting a losing battle.

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>>514788728
The churches around me decay. Good, am I supposed to care about a religion and a god that is not my own? I was never an abrahamic, and i never will be.

>>514788883
>Canada has an estimated 27,000 faith spaces and building
Good luck, you got alot of work infront of you.

>>514779124
>What exactly is "schizo" about it
The part where the man hears "God" telling him to stab his own son? Or maybe the three headed lion birdmen running around. Or maybe it's the implied vegan piranhas, or the explicit talking snake.

>>514788914
And they decay. Understand that word? Deteriorate, become weaker. Where does it grow stronger? Third world shitholes.

>>514788728
Christians overwhelmingly don't read the Bible except in bits and pieces, and they follow it little, and church tradition contradicts the bible constantly, so it's really not a problem.

>>514789372
So you're just gonna sit back and do nothing, what a warrior.. got a feeling you'll die before any of those churches do.

>>514789461
Then why do you cope and seethe at Christianity.. if it wasn't a threat and it was dying out.. wouldn't it just be easier to sit back and watch that happend instead of moaning on a Christian board?

>>514790575
I don't need to do shit. The rotten foundation will collapse under the weight of centuries of built up contradiction. It is already happening.

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It was written by ayylmfaos to troll stupid humanity, and troll they did. To epic levels.

>>514790866
2 more weeks untill the fall of Christianity.

>>514788809
On the contrary, cross faggotry is dying out, because it's out dated and of no longer use. And the pranksters are realing stupid humanity is catching on.
The "new age" trolling is already in effect. If you haven't yet noticed.

>>514791067
Christianity won't fall quickly. It's got too many low iq niggers in their ranks. Most popular religion in Africa btw.

>>514787085
A sinless sacrifice? And who was he sacrificed to exactly? Who made the sacrifice? Was Jesus of any value to the sacrificer?

>>514791208
african cross faggotry will not be the same cross faggotry as yooropean cross faggotry, just like south american cross faggotry turned out differently with mestizos.

Because monkeys and jungles and shit.

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>>514791179
>The "new age" trolling is already in effect.
Lmao, what are you gonna do start using pronouns and cut your dick off.. I'm not worried in the slightest.. you "new age" trolls got your work cut out for you, i'll be here laughing at you.. knowing whatever you say, and what ever you do.. Christianity will still exist tomorrow and so will you in your endless quest to destroy Christianity.

anyone who's read the bible at length suspects that it is a demonic text and that the Abrahamic religions were all created by a demon (Satan).

>>514778738
We need a new fallacy. Something like the "all my ancestors were retarded" fallacy.

>>514791562
Think about the origin of the term. Abraham. What did he do again? Oh yeah he made a pact with yahweh that includes mutilating the bodies of every male in his lineage in exchange for material success. They seriously expected us to see that as anything other than a blood pact with a demon?

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Jesus wasn't even a real person, you dummies

>pic related

>>514791409
I couldn't care less, it's not for me to decide what schitzophrenic shit pipo believe in, but it is dying out, like all great mindfucks throughout history. This one simply wasn't designed from the foundations to stand the test of time. It has an expiration date, which many have already noticed it expired long ago, and the rest will catch on as well.
I feel nothing really, to me it's just another
grand psyop of mass mind control and grift fading away into history with the rest of them.
It'll simply die on it's own, because I'm too lazy excellerate it's death.

>>514791686
It's wild. Blood pacts, sacrifices, genocide.
>but worship me and only me and your reward is... an eternity of worshiping me! ME ME ME!
narcissist demon.

Tons of people back then were tripping on ergot fungus without realizing it. They called it divine intervention.

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>>514792190
The ramblings of madmen.

>>514792255
How did it get this far? Are anons really sugguesting all of our ancestors were unable to think for themselves?

>>514792347
I think calling all of your ancestors impotent and brainwashed slaves is worse anon.

>>514778738

You need the right mindset and at least a tentative grasp on reality to begin to understand and appreciate the Wisdom in those pages. This is the problem now. Most people are psychotic without even knowing it, and this is the case because they see there psychoses reflected by most people in their milieu, so they think they're 'normal'.

TLDR

You don't understand it so you think it doesn't make any sense, when in fact, it is the font of sensibility and Wisdom.

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>>514792399
All of my ancestors were wiped out by disease, war and displacement, leaving only the most compliant ones left alive. I only see a cult whose origin point is ritual dick mutilation, a tradition that is still going strong.

>>514779697

All Religions are complex codes of conduct governing all aspects of life. They emerge out of a need to combat and constrain chaos. All that's discussed on this board is the accelerating chaos and how it can be combatted with most suggesting other modes of chaos.

Religion *WILL* return as the prime inspirational force for good in the World.

>>514792617
Oh shit a stragler

>>514792895
Yeah, you missed one.

>>514792399
I think there are iterations of Christianity that make sense philosophically, but they all got genocides by Karen's screeching "heresy!"

>>514792968

https://youtu.be/bc0KhhjJP98?feature=shared

Blew my mind when I learned Redbone were Native Americans. What really hit me though is how could here native American chanting in the song only afterwards. >>514792968

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>>514792885
>religion
The new religion is currency, which is now in it's final stages of evolving into virtual digital, a necessary step to globalize all the currencies of the world.
because if you control currency, you control everything.

>>514792355
All of our ancestors sought comfort from their terrifying existence. Unpredictable inexplicable death and disease everywhere. Drought, famine, floods. They needed community to protect them from their savage neighbors who raped their women and plundered their goats.

Honestly once you see theories being presented such as the Salem witch trials being possibly caused by a hallucinogenic fungus, then Christ cuckery comes in to a new perspective

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>>514779022
>I’ll just associate thing with jews so you won’t like it also jews are great look at this jew plz genocide
Wow you guys are real social engineers, very subtle. Gonna go cut my sock off and vote for Kamala now.

>>514793428
>Unpredictable inexplicable death and disease everywhere. Drought, famine, floods. They needed community to protect them from their savage neighbors who raped their women and plundered their goats.
Did these things stop happening? Don't we see new news everyday of our people and property being taken advantage of, and yet we are less responsive to threats than our ancestors were when Muslims came marching into our lands a thousands years ago? Did I miss something?

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>>514793291
Based Redbone enjoyer. Once I learned they were native the accent became incredibly obvious lol.

>>514793302
You got me, partner.

>>514793413

I can't agree Money or it's position in power politics forms a religion. The financial institutions created the chaos we're dealing with back in 08. Money can be used to lead a fulfilling life but it can be too easily hoarded by a few who have talent to do so. Many people are broke now and this number is increasing. When it reaches a critical mass the War will start in earnest.

>2029

>>514793717

Do you know how that continent was referred to before it became 'America'?

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>>514793875
Well, you see, thats what they want, if you haven't noticed it yet with the covid bullshit.
They are still executing depopulation, because one vital aspect of achieving a one world government/language/religion(currency) is global pop must be eliminated by 3/4 of its current numbers.Or it's simpley fall apart faster than they can prevent it from doing so. Oh you better believe war is a part of the depop agenda, and we'll see a lot of that down the road to a NWO, if you haven't noticed it with all the pro warhawks and their propaganda all around you.
One things for sure, we are living in very tense and interesting transitional time.

>>514778738
"God", as expressed in those magic jew tomes, is just character in the minds of the authors who wrote it. That's why he demands child rape in Numbers then ~loves you~ in Matthew.

And christcucks will invent any excuse in the universe to try and bridge this gap, other than face the obvious reality that the authors of these books were jews, human, and their stories are just a reflection of their own diseased psyches.

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>>514793449
So if he's lying about being a jew, what else is he lying about?

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>>514793201
>but they all got genocides by Karen's screeching "heresy!"
Yes, the problem with jews controlling our theological Overton window for a thousand years is all the military power our normie goy women had in the middle ages.

>>514794480

You can rant against it all you want but the die is cast. The Eschaton and Prophecy is upon us. We're all treading water until faced with making the ultimate decision of where to plant our flags.

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>>514791680
Ironically, your argument is the appeal to the masses fallacy.

>>514794195
The name would depends on the tribe. We typically call it turtle island now, but that's a modern invention. I'd imagine most tribes only really cared about the territory of their tribe. Very local in scope.

>>514778738
Psychiatrists are the ones now saying demons exist

https://www.bitchute.com/video/2WCjPQo3tj0h

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>>514791067
>low single digit % regular church attendance since it is no longer mandated by law
>this nigger thinks christianity hasn't fallen

>>514794832

>The name would depends on the tribe

I figured that and what you said about focus being only on practical rather than academic things. I remember a story about how Natives mocked Euros for thinking they could 'own' land, remarking it was as absurd as owning Sky. I like the idea they were a people with a profound common sense who held sacred the necessity of living in balance with the environment rather than trying to strangle wealth out of it.

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>>514794195
Vinland.

>>514779795
If you're an atheist, "degeneracy" isn't even real, it's just someone else's opinion of good. There is no good, therefore there is no bad. Nothing is truly degenerate with your philosophy. Evil isn't real, just a matter of opinion.

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>>514795272
>I like the idea they were a people with a profound common sense who held sacred the necessity of living in balance with the environment rather than trying to strangle wealth out of it.
That is a nice idea, but it is a Rousseau-esque noble savage fairy tale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_jump
In reality, everyone is a brutal cutthroat. People just like to pretend that either
a) they uniquely aren't (see christians and jews justifying brutally crushing all other cultures with their retarded appeals to peace and morality)
b) they uniquely are (see libshits justifying our own genocide by pretending we're the only ones to have ever done a mean thing to anyone)

>>514795377

>Vinland

I was asking what the Natives called it but why'd you call it Vinland?

*fuck auto correct*

>>514795616
>anon hears of subjective morality for the first time in his life

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>>514779697
Basically this.

One of the things that always made me laugh about the obvious con job of christianity is the virgin birth. Why does the manner on which god appears on the earth matter? He could come through a portal, he could fly in from somewhere, he could materialize in thin air, It literally would not matter, if a god of all things truly showed up and started walking around im fairly sure it would be extremely obvious. No one could even tell you were born of a virgin even if you were anyway, so why would it matter?
And then you realize the simple answer, because conmen in the old days needed ways to justify their alleged "divinity" and thats a difficult thing to do when you try to larp as a god when you are a man so they had to concoct a story thats impossible to disprove that people are gullible enough to buy.

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>>514795272
Yeah, but they didn't quite know how the semitic tribes of the middle east conducted conquest. And that lack of knowledge rallied them and their lands right into semitic claws. And now they have to pay taxes, multiple times, just like the rest of us. XDXDXD

>>514793564
No they haven't stopped. We just hold more scientific knowledge. We're not living in a constant state of hopelessness

For the record the bible contains zero knowledge. In fact the knowledge the bible does contain about the earth, the sun, and the stars for example, is incorrect. Most of the wisdom is also flawed. Nobody believes you have to beat children anymore for instance. In the bronze age maybe you needed to beat a disobedient child or he'd get eaten by a thunderbird.

>>514795718
I'm pointing out that subjective morality is foolish. You don't even really believe in it if I put your feet to the fire.

>>514792885
My problem with religions that i see them as tools to manipulate and control people. They are good in the hands of passive people, but more and more psychopaths are abusing that power for their own gains. POL is the best place of display to see the negative sides of them as christians and indians here are showing off their ego trips while muslims are displaying their hostility in real life criminal acts. Christians are loud mouthed assholes who won't do shit irl and indians are similar but they also eat shit and drink piss. Jews are secretive and act like passive victims but are working secretly behind the scenes irl to undermine everyone that isn't them.

oh boy! another jew anti-christian post!
another post about celebrities!
another post with porn!
another post with trannies!
another semantic argument that means and proves nothing!
lies!
glowies!
shills!
jeets telling you white people don't have culture and need jeets!
jews trying to get everyone to OK genocide!
endless "generals" filled with bots that purposely exist to shuffle content off the main board!
nothing to ACTUALLY talk about!
redditors!
people who think they're smarter than they are!

4chan...

>>514795657
Technically you asked what it was called before America, but I know, I was just shitposting a bit.
Allegedly because wine grew there. Vinland is literally "land of wine". It could also have been propaganda to make it sound better to potential colonist. I don't actually know if wine actually grew there at that time.

>>514778738
Funny that in the old days, the jews figured when bad shit happened to them, god was pissed for some reason. They searched for that reason and even when it was stupid, accepted it and punished the ones who they felt caused it.

When they were conquered, temple destroyed, taken into captivity in Babylon, they were influenced by Zoroastrians (and others) so that they took what used to be god's court prosecutor (the satan, Book of Job, oldest book in the whole bible) and turned him into the reason the bad shit was happening. You can see it happen when comparing duplicate verses, like 2 Samuel 24 where god does something and then punishes them for it, and 1 Chronicles 21 where the same story appears with Satan (capital S now) is the one who caused it.

>>514795794
No you weren't. You said that he couldn't find something degenerate because someone else liked it. That is a non sequitur.
I don't think you understand morality and/or what subjectivism means. Try reading the big moustache German. I've heard that he does wonders on the American domesticated psyche.

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>>514795853
those are all things to talk about the problem is christkikes are cowards who wont engage in discussion when devastating criticism is levelled at their shit beliefs. Everyone just hears what they dont like and immedietly dismiss them as jews/shills and are huge faggots, kind of like you.

>>514778852
This. Not just because they're cocksuckers now. But since their inception they've been a neurotic bunch of fuckers, obsessed with numerology, unseen forces... basically like modern day Africans convinced a fucking goblin is causing the village problems. Those are the people who wrote what many today think is the most important book ever assembled. People who needed to be told to keep their shit outside the camp knew the secrets of the universe.

>>514795654

I scorn this sort of cynicism.

It's a deadly cancer on this board and irl. Demoralising cancer draining any enthusiasm goodness will return. They famously only strived for what they needed disdaining avarice, hoarding and the accumulation of 'capital'.

Sneering about Noble Savages makes me feel you're a revolting prisoner of this board.

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>>514796079
>convinced a fucking goblin is causing the village problems.
or goyim, in their case

>>514796133
>They famously only strived for what they needed
Click the link I posted.
>I feel
>I like the idea of
You know the rules for women here, right?

>>514796025
I didn't say that. I said that if he finds something "degenerate", then it's just a matter of opinion. To someone like him, there's nothing ACTUALLY evil going on in degeneracy. It's just a bunch of opinions that differ from his, and we're all entitled to our opinions, right?

Unless you believe evil exists, then you don't really have a leg to stand on when you call something degenerate. To me, it's like you're a woman saying something is giving you the ick. It's utterly meaningless because there's no foundation other than "I don't like it".

>>514796280
You did though. Let me show you:
>If you're an atheist, "degeneracy" isn't even real, it's just someone else's opinion of good.
But it's semantics.
>we're all entitled to our opinions, right?
I'm no atheist, but exactly where in the big book of atheist laws did you find this passage?
>you don't really have a leg to stand on when you call something degenerate.
Again, you don't understand the topic at all.
>To me, it's like you're a woman saying something is giving you the ick. It's utterly meaningless
To you. But her instinct is to not fuck you. So it is very real and has consequences stretching into infinity.
> other than "I don't like it".
That would be what subjective morality means, yes. That's how the world operates. You just pretend you're not doing it.

>>514795729
"High IQ" retards like this never fail to make me laugh. They contemplate the divine mystery (like why would God become a man), but their mind is already made up. Instead of entertaining the thought and seeing where it leads, they say "AHA! My BRILLIANCE has shown this was a con all along! I can't BELIEVE so few people have figured this out. Thankfully I am really, really smart!"

>>514796588
>I can't BELIEVE so few people have figured this out.
I don't mean to burst your bubble, but there is a huge number of people, stretching back to Antiquity, who have "figured this out".
Why do you think christianization had to be forced with the literal death penalty?
It was still mandated by law into the early modern period in many places.

>>514796588
People can't be trusted, look around you, everyone is scheming how to fuck the other guy over 24/7. And personally, I find the idea of an immortal great spirit taking the form of a human body is just , disgusting and self contradiction of it's true intentions. Yeah, def, jewsus was a con artist, my theory he was just a Roman spy sent to subvert these lands from revolting against Rome's rule. Nothing more.

>>514786871
> Everything can be explained and observed and studied
How do you know that? That's a belief. I thought science doesn't require any beliefs, but it seems it does. Btw. Gödel's incompleteness theorems already prove this belief wrong.

>>514796542
>I'm no atheist, but exactly where in the big book of atheist laws did you find this passage?
This is just common sense. I didn't think this one had to be written down, but since you insist, let me explain: Some people have red as their favorite color, some people blue. Because it's all opinion, there's no true "best" color, so everyone should be entitled to have whatever color they like as the "best" color. This is subjectivity.

If you apply that to morality, then everyone is entitled to their opinion on that, right? There's no "Real" morality that trumps everything else. If I am allowed to have a different favorite color, then I am also allowed to have a different morality.

What's the problem with this logic?

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>>514796588
>you think you are smart but you are dumb ok
>the point you bring up is some kind of pre conceived notion (which is wrong and retarded) and therefore your point is invalid
>thankfully I am sophisticated enough in my holy books to understand the real nuances at play here but im not going to share them with you its a secret
>youre not the real genius, I am!

>>514797148
>thankfully I am sophisticated enough in my holy books to understand the real nuances at play here but im not going to share them with you its a secret
I'm willing to share anything about Christianity to anyone who wants to know. Ask away.

>>514796881
>jewsus was a con artist
He's a midrashic fictional character. It is very explicit. Saul says he only saw him in the scripture, and that the other apostles have also seen him in the scripture.
He's a jewish fanfic written to cope with the loss of the temple.

>>514778738
psychiatry is only useful for npc's. players read the bible. you thought where it said "you are set apart" it was in jest? The bible wasnt written for you, go on your merry little fucking way.

>>514797139
It's wild to me that you're unable to understand this.
Be honest with me: you're non-White, right?

>>514797148
Ok, can you be saved through faith alone or following the law, or both?

>>514797139
>>514797312
Oh wait, maybe it's the circumcision trauma that messes up your ability to identify and act in the interest of your in-group. You're either non-White and/or circumcised, right?

>>514797264
Yeah, and in the bible it also mentions how debt is form of perpetual enslavement between the debtee and the endebted.

And now we can see how it's practiced in real life economics. In which debt slavery is very much widely practiced and promoted.

>>514796881

I settled on the idea for God to be omniscient he would need to become embodied to know what it's like to be one of us *and* he'd need to die to *know* what it's like to die.

>>514791222

Yes, His blood has value, we have redemption and forgiveness of sins through His blood if we receive His gift of salvation.

Colossians 1:14-18 "In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."

Jesus did the sacrifice, and brought His blood to God the Father to complete the sacrifice.

Hebrews 9:12 "Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us."

Hebrews 9: 24-28 "For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation."

>>514794592
the word of God has nothing to do with genetics or ancestry, thats the part that the kikes got real wrong. It has to do with something else that we dont have adequate words to discuss, "divine spark" is close enough I suppose.

>>514797315
>>514797211

>>514797607
Why would "gah" need to insert a coin to play one of his own creations? THE DUDE LITERALLY SLAPPED HUMANS TOGETHER OUT OF MUD!! THEN EXECUTED A HUMILIATION RITUAL BY TAKING MY RIB AND MAKING A W*MAN OUT OF IT!! FUCK THESE ABRAHAMIC DESERT SCHIZOS!!

>>514797315
Faith. If it was by following the law, we'd all be damned. Having faith will make you desire to follow the law.

>>514796213

I can feel something without integrating into reality. I don't believe you're a revolting prisoner of this board's demonic spirit but I can feel it. Interesting you suggest I'm female though. They don't seem able to isolate feelings thereby helplessly integrating them into their sense of reality.

It made me notice that's what most posters do here.

>>514797829
What a fascinating answer as a "christian", the only problem I have with that is jesus himself literally explained twice in matt 19:17 and luke 10:25-28 that faith alone will not save you. I am not trolling when I say I doubt you are even a christian

>>514797656
>>514791222

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

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>>514797694
>okay, you were right, he is a actually jew
>but him being a jew doesn't matter
We're never gonna get American e-christians to read their bible, are we?

>>514798009
>And he answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and tyour neighbor as yourself.”
Obsession with following the law to the t is what created the Pharisees. Being Christian isn't about being the most rigid, law following person imaginable, getting all the commandments just right. It's about love, receiving the love from God, giving it back, and having it in your heart for humanity.
And you just can't do this unless you love God. Your heart will be hardened without God, I know this from experience. The idea that Christianity is about "following the law" is not correct. It's about understanding a loving God and humanity.

>>514797806

heh

You know you're like a tiny ant stamping it's little feet? You can go insane if you persist with it. You won't begin to apprehend the mystery until you learn humility.

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>>514798218
>understanding a loving God
the loving god:

>>514798218
>and having it in your heart for humanity.

Yeeeeeaaah..tssss...that part...I simply cannot. I've peered into the human nature too long, and my love for it ran out fast. Oh well, maybe in my next life.

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>>514798218
>understanding humanity.
the humanity:

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>>514798382
Woah an out of context passage from a psalm, I better reject Christ right away!

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>>514798498
>out of context
Please provide the context where the semites are murdering babies for the god of love
>unironic goebbel-christ-posting
lol

>>514798414
I understand disliking the dark side of humanity. I'd assert though that if you're able to see the darkness of human nature, it implies that you understand there's such a thing as a "godly nature" that humans fall short of. Do you agree with this at least?

>>514778738
It was never meant to be read as purely literal, dumb dumb.

People will ask "why doesn't God just destroy evil?"
My brother in Christ, God already HAS destroyed evil, He is just waiting for you to accept His gift of salvation so that His power (which is above all powers) can lift you into heaven just as it did Jesus.
>19 and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to the working of his great might
>20 that he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places,
>21 far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come.

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>>514798218
What a beautiful non answer.
>Obsession with following the law to the t is what created the Pharisees
You dont have to be obsessed with the law to follow the law or try to follow the law. this is actually an impressive statement because it is simultaneously a red herring and a false dilemma. Its a red herring because that completely ignores the point in which I am making that you heard from the camels mouth, jesus himself, that you are to obey the law if you want to be saved, and yet you handwaive his direct instructions
>Being Christian isn't about being the most rigid
no one said it did, again red herring
>It's about love
Wrong again and at this point im not sure you have even read the bible, christianitys belief lies in the foundation that jesus came to earth and walked around as a doomsday salesman explaining that the end of the world was IMMINENT. not soon, not in 2000 years, imminent. and he offered people 2 options, salvation through him, or destruction and eternal torment in fire. Jesus did not come to the earth to be your invisible best friend. Matthew 10:34-36 Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household.
He did not come to spread a message of peace or love through his own words, he did not come to make friends.
>Your heart will be hardened without God
No, I wont. this is just cult thinking of demonizing the people in the out group, careful, we might have lizard tongues too!
>The idea that Christianity is about "following the law" is not correct
Thats a fantastic 10/10 insight you dont have to justify it to me youre gonna have to explain that one to JC himself who does not agree with you.

>>514798647
The passage was regarding Jews in captivity and their desire to utterly destroy the nation who enslaved them. It's a psalm sung by psalmists in captivity. Psalms are not commandments from God. Nowhere does God command them to dash babies against rocks, it's just the vocalized frustrations of a captured person.

>>514797829
thats the same as saying not through works but if you have faith you will do works. its the truth but the way it gets discussed, by christians, takes away from what faith is. if faith is following the law, then the jews were right faith is just not deviating from the law, i.e. reliably sticking to tradition. Jesus destroyed that notion. Faith is in keeping the good news. our good news is "stocks are up today" and other silly shit. God's good news is the best good news possible, you wont be forsaken, nothing can remove you from God, regardless of all appearances everything is in your best interests. Stick to that faithfully, never give up in anything, every situation always having a way out of it, nothing whatsoever being pointless, but rather every single thing having a good reason being explicitly in your favor, should you make a mistake and there be repercussions then it is only for growth and development, not setbacks, not defeat, because nothing can defeat God and he is on your side not against you. Adopt into that perspective and you will see works.

The church goers call things like volunteering at a soup kitchen works, and they could be, but when such a thing has no bearing, no real goal other than doing it, it is done in vain. They'll say things like "God's love is the reason I do this" ok yea great, but is Gods love of no consequence that enabling poverty is your best way to show it? Put reason into what you do, intentional and deliberate expectations of outcomes. Instead of feeding the poor (which what does that accomplish?) chase poverty out of your city. Dont give them food to fill their belly for the night, give them food to fix your city.

To the athiest this is nonsense, to the church goer what I just said is close to heresy, but the believer will understand my meaning eventually.

>>514778738
>monotheism is schizophrenic
you are almost two thousand years late on that revelation
the right thinking proper cults don't take their shit too seriously and are a net positive overall but these judeans man......there is something wrong with these people

>>514799165
"If you have faith you will do works". I agree with this, but it's very difficult to explain to those whose goal is just to mock Christ instead of understand Him. It's not as if works are saving me, but I do them because I love God.

Though I don't know if I entirely follow you about feeding the poor vs chasing poverty out of the city. How could the latter be done?

>>514799029
>You dont have to be obsessed with the law to follow the law or try to follow the law.
The law has no power over those that live by the Spirit, in Christ.
> There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
>For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
>For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
>that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

>you are to obey the law if you want to be saved
The law hangs on love
>Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
>This is the first and great commandment.
> And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
>On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

>>514799029
I'm sure Jesus will say he knows me when the time comes, but I appreciate the concern. What will he say about you?

>>514799405
>The law has no power over those that live by the Spirit, in Christ.
Inane christian babbling this is a meaningless statement
> There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit
Paul said this decades after jesus's death which again is a total red herring. You have been given explicit instructions by jesus christ himself his literal words have been written down on paper and not once but TWICE did he specifically say that faith alone would not save you, and you then go on to quote some bullshit paul said decades later a man who never even met jesus?????????? Who the fuck are you going to listen to about following jesus other than jesus him fucking self? Absolute cinema
>The law hangs on love
Yawn
>Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Excellent we are now getting somehwere jesus said a thing and you need to do it! So start listening to what jesus actually says and follow the law.
I am starting to see the problem you are a 21st century build a god christian who like many do not actually care what the bible says and have turned jesus into your invisible best friend.

>>514797139
missing some moving parts
for certain specific applications there is an objectively better color choice
diagonal black and bright yellow is the best for hazard notice for instance
morailty isn't just a subjective opinion it's also a technology based on practical outcomes

you have to pull some proper philosowank to miss this point as hard as you are
the intelligent mind can entertain an idea without accepting it as true
you can use negative geometries without believing there are anti shapes
you can use an ethical framework without believing that it's 'true' or 'grounded' or whatever nonsense

>>514799665
Jesus isnt real so its kind of like asking me what is gandalfs most powerful spell, i dont care and its not a hill I am willing to die on

>>514778738
This is a weird fan fiction about some long dead jews. "Jews went somewhere , the natives were all super-duper evil so they were justified in genociding them , tried to do the genocide by themselves and failed , remember they had to pray to their Sky-daddy and he magic-nuked their enemies. Also , there was incestuous rape for some reason." I could've given Christians the benefit of the doubt if they only believed in the New Tastement but it isn't the case

>>514798009
Because that was true then, in the old testament (of works) but now that Jesus Christ is offering us the gift of salvation, your choice is to either accept or refuse it. You don't have any other method of salvation. The law has been fulfilled by Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:17–18), and His righteousness can be imputed onto you, if you choose to accept this gift.

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.


>>514787085

>>514800195
Incorrect, jesus explained explicitly in the new testament that faith alone will not save you, twice.

>>514795852
you are right. religion is used to control people. and there isnt a church that doesnt do that. but that does not necessarily mean a single word in the bible is untrue, look at the truth of any other thing is there anything that is entirely made up or are all psyops a complete misrepresentation of the truth?

I challenge you: invent a lie that is entirely original. It can not be done, before a lie can be spoken the truth of the matter must first exist. God is real, the bible is true, but everyone misrepresents everything all day long, the only way you can know the definitive truth of anything is for you to gather the source material and judge it for yourself. why would it be any different with God? Anyone that thinks themselves to have a heart after God ought to ensure it. Getting your opinions from your favorite eceleb is only a way to be mislead. oh wait sorry getting your knowledge from pastor bob is only a way to be mislead. The truth comes only from the truth and God is the truth, the only truth. How many think themselves to desire the knowledge of God but only ever consult books and fancy speeches, never asking God for that knowledge. They are all like blind men discussing the directions to get to some wonderful place to visit. Theyve never seen it but they got so much to say about it. And thats just the ones that arent operating under open malice with the explicit intent of misleading. How many scams and cons are out there? does the bad intent of a nigerian prince scam nullify the definition of the words spoken in that scam? No it is just the arrangement of those words that is fraudulent and the premise built by that fraud which is the lie.

>>514800401
religion is the culmination of ages of taking the truth and twisting it to control people. Its a building constructed of false builders and false architects. Is the raw material of the most disgusting architecture rendered into something it isnt? no its just twisted and maligned into an affront to all honest observation. Take the honesty of observing that the churches are false and apply it to determining if the source material is actually false or if rather it is being gatekept by falsehoods.

>>514800306
Gebrews 9:16-17 "For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth."

Before Jesus died on the cross and He hadn't yet offered His blood to God the Father, the old testament was still in full effect.

>>514800032
>meaningless statement
I pity you
> For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

>a man who never even met jesus
This isn't even true. Here is Jesus:
> If ye love me, keep my commandments.
>And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
>even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Impossible to be saved by the law, salvation is only through Christ. Here's another passage:
>He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

>>514800137
Communism has been a disaster for Russia.

>>514778738
i've read a lot of books in my life and i attempted to read the Bible (and Quran) and both are just terrible. not even interesting to read from a story perspective; they just assume to be the word of "God" and have no sense of anything in them. complete brainlets who read the books might believe something in them, but they read no better than a crummy fiction novel.

just proves that illiterate retards of the past kept pushing these books because they had nothing better to read or do

>>514800306
Works alone will not save you, you need faith, and the power of God will do good works in you.

>>514800445
Meant to say Hebrews 9


>>514800306
Also, Jesus said: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." (John 10:28)

He was talking about the future here, because He knew he was going to offer His blood for our sins. But before He had done that there wasn't any way to to have eternal life, they had to constantly give sacrifices for their sins.

>>514800195

What do say of Jesus considering he was a person, leaving dogma and theology out of it, like us?

>>514799029
Christ was against the law and wanted to abolish it. The law also never applied outside of the OT. And Jesus fulfilled the law by being crucified.
You're not meant to react to sin by always consciously trying to always abstain from sin. By having a closer relationship with God, it will naturally occur that you will likely sin less.
>You're interpretation about the end of the world, whatever with Jesus is just odd so I don't really care since I believe eschatology is all symbolic.
>eternal torment in fire
there's different interpretations/ideas/concepts of hell and anyone that understands theology enough will know that it's unknowable of what it actually is.
>Matthew 10:34-36
There's how many denominations of Christianity(?) and within those denominations there are individuals that have different ideas of Christianity. These differences of beliefs divide families. That's what this verse means.
I don't care for the 'Jesus is love' thing either though lol.
The law was only meant for the israelites for that certain period of time. That time passed and it was no longer needed. You're not meant to fully sin to your hearts content but you're not meant to be ascetic either.

>>514799029
>you are wrong
>watch as I nail Jesus to a cross all over again

>>514779697
>Magic doesn't exist
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clark's third law.

>>514800445
Both of these things can be true. Salvation requires a barbaric blood sacrifice and you must also follow the law.

This is also a nothing burger again because we know other passages in the new testament try and say that faith is all you need. Galations 2:16
Yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified
This is great and all but one of the many problems with the bible is that it is littered with contradictions. So when it comes to resolving these contradictions who are you going to listen to when it comes to doing what god wants? What god explicitly told you to do more than once in his own words? Or listen to the book of hebrews written by an unknown author?

>>514782143
I appreciate that, thanks for saying so.
>>514782617
I don't have to show shit. You either acknowledge there are things in this universe beyond your comprehension or you are a fool. Science is a process for a reason. The things we believe to be true can be turned on their heads or outright invalidated over centuries or even in a matter of years.
>>514785874
"Magic" is literally just a word people use for things they do not understand.

>>514800665

Exodus is excellent. If you're being serious you simply don't understand. But it's stupid engaging with you. You'll never get it in that frame of mind.

>>514800741
His birth was supernatural. The Spirit of God was upon Him.

>>514800508
>I pity you
address nothing I said
>This isn't even true.
The book of romans was written by the apostle paul some time around AD 57, paul never met jesus, this is 100% true once again teaching christianity to christians
>Impossible to be saved by the law, salvation is only through Christ. Here's another passage:
Again completely ignore what jesus christ says and inject your own nonsense into christian belief. Wonderful

>>514800799
if everyone embraced God and repented the law would be entirely unenforceable because there would be no one to enforce it on. The whole of the law hinges on two points, love God and love man. Not very many men who are worthy of love, so focus on the first point. Even those who say they love God ignore him all day long as if he is some interloper standing in the corner of a party. Stop ignoring him, bring him into the center of your life, all else shall follow. It is no easy thing to do because we see something bad happen and want to say "it is evil", but God is just and everything is in his domain, that needs to be rectified. The more we do this the more we allow ourselves to see God in everything. The common argument there being "oh no bad thing happened your god is a monster!1!" The only response such should get is: Nope, God is good only and it is good that that happened, I dont need a reason why other than God is good, and you can shove your morality up your ass whence it came from.

>>514799083
The OT is full of yahweh commanding his people to wipe out entire tribes and nations down to the last woman, child and donkey. Stop coping.

>>514797656
So god sacrificed himself to himselfon our behalf? That's not a sacrifice. A sacrifice is only a sacrifice if you give up something that you value.

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>goyim arguing over how best to worship the jewish tribal god
you hate to see it

>>514800887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVI

The Bible doesn't have contradictions. If you think the book of Hebrews is a contradiction then you're wrongly applying every word to those already saved by Jesus Christ when it's talking about the last days in the tribulation period which is not the same age of grace we are living in.

>>514784094
>>514783917
>>514783081
You can grab a full library of cool Greek myths and get the same level of morality as the Bible does.
Human nature and how we live is about shared experiences and picking what's deemed good or bad for me or the people around me.

>>514801202
>paul never met jesus
Acts details his meeting with Jesus

>inject your own nonsense
I quoted the Bible, Jesus' words specifically. If they are nonsense to you, then you have no authourity talking about salvation.

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>>514801476
>The Bible doesn't have contradictions

>>514801370

Look at >>514798075

>>514801011

I'm not talking about any of that abstract nonsense. I'm not talking about any of the ecstatic claims he lives or the claims of his divinity. I'm talking about his presence in this realm, in this time and space. I'm talking about his mundane physical existence. The fact he needed to eat and drink to sustain his body. He needed to go the bathroom. He washed. He farted. He laughed. He got angry.

Im talking about him being one of us and how this has been, to the utter detriment of the Church, eclipsed by the focus on his divinity WHICH NO ONE UNDERSTANDS!

The Church needs to come down to Earth.

Mohammed is interred in Medina. There's been attempts to steal his body. I wonder why.

>>514778738
>no mention of anything against pedophilia
into the trash it goes

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>>514801487
>You can grab a full library of cool Greek myths and get the same level of morality as the Bible does.
That's highly offensive to Hellenic culture. The morality of the Hellenes is vastly superior to that of the jews, and as an added bonus, is not even slightly judeo-supremacist.

>>514800799
>Christ was against the law and wanted to abolish it.
I mean thats great and all if you want to just believe whatever is convenient for you I just dont think that makes you much of a christian if you choose that over doing what jesus explicitly tells you to do.
>there's different interpretations/ideas/concepts of hell and anyone that understands theology enough will know that it's unknowable of what it actually is.
Thats um...great?
>There's how many denominations of Christianity(?)
Your starting to see the problems now. There are 45,000 denominations of christianity because even the people who actually believe this nonsense cant even agree on what the fuck the book is trying to say. Even one of the core tenets of christianity like how are you saved is muddied because of the texts. When you have 1 book and 45,000 answers its not a very good book.
>The law was only meant for the israelites for that certain period of time
following the law is inconvenient for you so you made that up, if not please cite the bible chapter and verse that explains the law is no longer in effect.

>>514801349
Wicked nations who sacrificed their own children to Moloch and perverted the land with their sins. Stop pretending as if these people were blameless angels and not unrepenting and idolatrous sinners. That all happened to them to show us what will happen in the end to all the unrepenting and evil people on earth today. Mind you, Israel had it's fair share of punishment, from slavery, to destruction, to horrible famine, to a "third being slain, a third being killed with pestilence, and a third scattered among the nations".

>>514801638
>"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."

>>514801528
Sorry, I meant to say the KJV Bible doesn't have contradictions. Of course satanic modern bibles have contradictions.

>>514801680
The point being its the same shit just rehashed in a different story.

>>514801508
hahahahahha paul saw a light in the sky therefore your factual statement about reality is invalid That is so purposefully deceptive its truly disgusting that you argue in such bad faith.
>I quoted the Bible, Jesus' words specifically
Excellent! lets start quoting jesus, share chapter and verse where jesus said you do not need to follow the law anymore. I already gave you two verses explicitly saying you do, go ahead ill wait!

>>514801564
Jesus came in the flesh to suffer as a human, for humanity. The lashings, the cross, that was all physical.
Mohamed's body is a pile of bones, while Jesus' grave stands empty to this day.

>>514801349
That may be, but the fact remains the Psalms are not commandments. To think that something sang by a pslamist is a commandment from God just highlights your ignorance of the bible. I notice how you refuse to reply to the point I made and instead immediately went to "but what about this other thing".

>>514801680
>The morality of the Hellenes is vastly superior to that of the jews
But is it superior to the morality of God Himself?

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>>514801771
>But whoso shall offend one of these little ones
>offend
what does this mean? because back then they found not taking child brides as offensive lol

>>514795729
Actually it was because some of the earliest financial backers of Christianity were wealthy Roman women. Back then virginity was very fashionable (see: vestal virgins) so Mary was hyped up and made into a sort of mascot.
They also used Christianity as a vehicle to ban male dominated spaces like gladiator fights and chariot races, btw.

>>514778738
Just convert to islam lil bro

>>514801811
Nowhere in the Greek myths did the creator of the universe ever claim to have become a man.

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>>514801698
>they didn't worship the jewish tribald demon, so wiping them out to the last woman and child is actually love
I don't say this lightly or often, but you are mentally ill and as removed from anything godly as any other jew. I hope you'll obey your pharisaic rabbi mohel jew and remain an incel, so that my children won't have to contend with yours.
Mars Ultor Vigila!

>>514801882
>paul saw a light in the sky therefore your factual statement about reality is invalid
Paul tells us about what happened at the last supper (something he received from the Lord) before any of the other gospels did. Paul's testimony did not in any way differ from the Apostles who had been with Jesus. Compare Paul pre-Christ and Paul after that. Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the light. No man comes to the Father except through me." No law or deed will save you, only Jesus.

>>514802125
They had demigods, which had human offspring.

>>514802258
Also Dionysus.

>>514802254
Chapter and verse please stop dodging

>>514802208
Are you calling God unloving for punishing the wicked? Would leaving the wicked to prosper have been loving?

>>514801784
>tf
>shilling a modern English translation of the bible
glow harder
>only this one modern translation is correct
so all christian bibles prior to 1611 were le ebil demon books?
well, who am I to disagree with that notion

>>514801961
Different time, different place.

>>514802367
John 14:6

>>514802258
Zeus impregnated people and created demigods, but none of those demigods claimed to also be Zeus. Christianity is utterly unique in myth.

>>514801011
U mean the Roman legionnaire Panthera was on his mother

>>514801811
Yes, that's the point I disagree with. It's not the same shit. Jews copied, subverted and rebuked Hellenism in their tanakh and new testament. They are not equals.

>>514802391
they should have been wiped out by the aliens lole

>>514801771
>The best counterpoint is an excerpt where rabbi yeshua is talking more about himself and sadistically killing his enemies than the kids.
grim.

>>514802387
>only this one modern translation is correct
Yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS78mFJcvhQ

>>514802454
Zeus is not like the God of the Bible... and Jesus never claims to be literally God.

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>>514778738
>literally

>>514801936
>the point
The point is that the "loving god" you refer to calls for the ethnic cleansing of non-jewish tribes down to the last woman and child.
This is not a god of universal love. It is a tribal demon of jewry.
Your rebuttal?

>>514802429
I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me

My english must not be very good I dont see anywhere in that sentence where it says feel free to do whatever the fuck you want, try again please chapter and verse

>>514802511
Before we slide into another topic, let's go back to my original point, that it doesn't matter what set of stories, religious texts, etc you follow if they have a positive message within them and a moral code that most poeple will agree with, you don't need Christian culture to live a good life.

>>514802387
>>514802387

And I'm not talking about "demon books" im talking about translations made by luciferians who give satan titles that Jesus has etc. Which are the modern translations you see everywhere now.

KJV on the other hand is perfect. There are no errors or contradictions in the KJV bible, but modern bibles have errors.

>>514802685
Before I address that, will you admit you were wrong to assert that a psalm is a commandment from God?

>>514802642
>Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

>>514778738
I've always heard about demons, angels and that pagan gods are demons
>open the bible
>all the scenes of the appearance of God and angels happen at night (when he makes a deal with Abraham, the smoke comes out of a furnace at night and passes between the bodies of dead animals)
>many bloody rituals, Jephthah's murder of his daughter, Abraham's possible murder of his son
>genocide of peoples in the promised territories
>and God himself calls for genocide
>kills apostate Jews by forcing them to fall underground

open the new testament
>Jesus is so good but you notice his other side
>calls to hate your parents, to leave your families, says that he brought not peace but a sword, tells a person to leave his relative to bury and follow him (Jesus)
>calls to sell property (sect)
>Romania accused Christians of violating traditional values (lol)
>early Christians left society, abandoned their families and sought death (dying a martyr's death was considered the highest good)
>at the beginning of the deeds, God (most likely one of the apostles) kills a couple for hiding part of the money from the sale of property

>pagan gods are fallen angels

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>>514778738
>1pbti
>Anti-Christian ragebait

It's the JIDF trannies, as usual.

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>>514801937
It is the morality of God you fool. God the Father, Deus Pater, Jupiter, Zeus. That's God.
Imagine thinking the foreskin-demanding tribal deity of the jews is capital G God...

>>514802695
You're moving the goalposts now. I've stated more than once that works ALONE will not save you.
>Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

>>514801890
>his grave is empty
Wow amazing. Almost like he never existed.

>>514802511
They didn’t rebuke jack shit about hellenism.
Jury’s still out on the copying allegations.

>>514802383
>confusing love with just rulership
>confusing yahweh with God
christbrain

>>514801683
Christianity isn't about moralizing, if you want to believe that it is, then your entire religious system is work based. ie. following all of the law (that's rabbinic judaism) which Jesus hated .
There being 45,000 denominations doesn't disprove Christianity. Baseline core doctrines are agreed upon that make up the foundations of Christianity such as salvation in Christ.
It's not about convenience, it’s about fulfillment. The Law pointed forward to Christ. Trying to enforce it literally now would contradict what Christ explicitly did.

>>514802922
"He never exists" people are the BIGGEST copers on the planet. Whether or not you believe he was God is one thing, but to think he never existed is actually a mark of a retard. "They stole his body and hid it" is the classical and more logical rebuttal btw. Learn to fight properly.

>>514802766
>it doesn't matter what set of stories, religious texts, etc you follow if they have a positive message
wtf kind of new age hippy faggotry is this shit
lay off the bong

>>514802815
Jesus claims to be within a devine nature one with God. How can he be the literal God of the universe and be a human being at the same time? The "son" of God as well. It's one of the strange contradictions within the Bible. The easiest answer is that he isn't literal God.

>>514779854
You tell em sis
I'm going to consult my horoscope and channel my quartz crystals to cast a hex on this silly non-believer

>>514795791
>thunderbird
they are real by the way

the Japanese called them tengu (they look like Jews with tefillin on their heads)

>>514802793
>the KJV bible, but modern bibles have errors.
Retard, the KJV is a modern bible. It's literally from the modern period.
Christianity wasn't created in the 17th century.

>>514802911
No goalposts exist that ever needed to be moved, I have said from the beginning and continue to say the same thing. Jesus explicitly says faith alone will not save you in his own words not once but twice and you desperately try to deny this by ducking and dodging and trying to pretend that the word of other men who are not jesus should superceed what jesus said himself. Id ask you to stop being dishonest but thats probably asking too much.

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https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ps.52.5.685
>A handful of case reports detail autocastration among persons with schizophrenia who had biblical delusions. Waugh (9) described a 31-year-old man who severed his testicles in response to Matthew 19:12: "There are eunuchs born that way from their mother's womb, there are eunuchs made so by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves that way for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven."

>create foreskins
>"duuuuuude, CUT IT OFF!"

>>514802766
It's not about living a good life btw. It's about the promise of eternal life. I'm not Christian because I want to be a good person. I'm Christian because I believe in the promise given to us from Christ. He is the only way to eternal life.

>>514802902
Read Acts 17:22-31

>>514778946
this. smart people get caught up in logic and freeze. the only thing that matters is getting things done by any means necessary. this means learning what motivates the masses (its emotion and prompting a feeling of connection)

>david has this problem
>oh wow i have similar problems

>>514802804
I never did. I implied that yahweh and the psalmist were of one mind, which I concede is debatable. But my point remains, and you're at least not pretending that yahweh doesn't command the extinction of entire tribes and nations, which was my point.

>>514803161
Sorry but the 17th century isn't a "modern" time.

>>514803066
"Reality, in fact, is usually something you could not have guessed. That is one of the reasons I believe Christianity. It is a religion that you could not have guessed. If it offered us just the kind of universe we had always expected, I should feel we were making it up. But, in fact, it is not the sort of thing anyone would have made up. It has just that queer twist about it that real things have. So let us leave behind all thee boys’ philosophies – – these over simple answers. The problem is not simple and the answer is not going to be simple either."

>>514778738
There's actually some interesting philosophical ideas in the bible. If you study greek philosophy, you can see the influence.

>>514803025
The he never existed cope mainly comes from very religious jews, as they’re the only ones interested in theory crafting it.