It seems like a huge miscalculation
>>514784830The nation wouldn't be hostile if pootin didn't try to control it in the first place. If you want friendly neighbors then you need to treat them like friends. It's actually insane how he managed to lose the goodwill from Ukraine and turn them into enemies.
The West is peaceful. Stop this nonsense.
Why would I give a fuck what that clown wants?
>>514784830jewshttps://youtu.be/-mxfnya3ZRcjewsUcraine https://youtu.be/GGaBcPqLkkU
>>514785068>The West is peaceful. Stop this nonsense.So Russians start military operation based on nonsense ?forbidden culture, religion, language and 25 burn a life in Odessa It sense, life ass burning till death , I disagree about nonsense protect Russians living in Ukraine
>>514785752>So Russians start military operation based on nonsense ?No they start military operations because they hate european people and want to genocide them for the sake of their jewish masters
>>514785752Its based on easy landgrab.
>>514784830Russian leadership miscalculates all the time. Their primary concept is "de-escalation through escalation" because they think people calm down when you keep slapping them. Obviously it never works, but sociopaths are terrible at psychology of normal people.
>>514785106>Why would I give a fuck what that clown wants?price to not give a dam about your neighbors security needs, lead to violence because you just shout down possibility to resolve conflict diplomatically way. Imagine some one step on your foot, you tell about it and person ignore you, You have to push it back or .. I will suspect that you enjoy it. No pol flags = jew shills or glowing nuggers
>>514784830It was going to happened eventually. This war is a pre-match. NATO expending newer stopped and the east side of Ukraine was a good excuse to go in. Ukrainians helped with their poor politics.
>>514785801>No they start military operations because they hateWell, Putin announces publicly why and that differ from what you claim. How do you know other peoples motivation? You don't . Same objective remove hostile organization (Nazi) that terrorize citizens and Nafo sisters with US start build up military on a Russians border.Many people blame Putin for waiting to the last second. If he would start intervention 8 years earlier maybe would be less blood spilled un necessary Ucraine https://youtu.be/GGaBcPqLkkU
>>514784830>known for being an international cheap gas station>runs out of gasSeriously, wtf did Putin mean by this?
>>514785890>price to not give a dam about your neighbors security needsIssue is that neighbour ultimately needs full subjugation of two fucking continents to feel secure.
>>514784830Having a common hostile enemy, that will help to bond your people around you and make them re-elect you until you're 500 years old cyborg?Are swedes all this stupid or is it just you
>>514785836>Its based on easy landgrabRussia don't need more land look at the map, they have most land in the world. Why don't you listen what Russians saying by them self what they need? Ignore and get kicked or everyone's needs can be met with out competition, hate or sacrifice. It just bully attitude leads to violence
>>514785068*unzips fabricated evidence of WMD*
>russians>calculatingr*ssians are literal subhumans with nigger tier IQ>>514785056This. All he had to do is stand down while Ukrainians figure out which Kremlin puppet they can vote in back in 2014 and he would have the entire Ukraine from Carpathia to Luhansk in his pocket. But the monkey desired the banan too much. Now they are being replaced by the TAJ MASTER RACE of the heckin' TAJIKISTAN, getting ready to turn that sexy mystery meat russian pussy into their obedient halal concubines.
>>514786321>comments same things in every post>shares some random youtube video twice as realiable source>is probably rusky goblin on proxyDo you really are that pathetic?
>>514784830Putin has several options in relation to Ukraine defeating his forces. 1)None2)Fuck all3)Just try and ignore it mor4)Spam /pol/ using fake flag VPNs
If only Rusisa stull had a warchest of cash and a stockpile of heavy weapons.But it does not.
kek you and binns combined barely make half of ukranda in terms of manpowerin terms of material you aren't even close
>>514786228Your picture is ilustration of an idea or fantasy Europe turning in to shit hole overflow by immigrants ... Who needs that? It is not productive high skilled population that cost money to feed. Why don't you listen what Russians say by them self what they need? Back off with your military you can't go closer ... brake all red lines and Russians go to war . Putin tell about it on every single occasion when it was appropriate to talk about . 'Why should I care?' in order to not get kicked your ass (?) Nafo sisters get fucked it is over and some European countries saying fuck your war ... Wes world produce as much weapons per year as Russians shoot on the front line per 2 weeks and that amount is slowly growing.Aggression against Russia has to be destroyed. What is a point to wait 10 years until EU arms it self and creates conflict on Russian borders again? Ukrainians have swiched their sides in WW2, what if they unite with Russia and continue on EU? there is 29 ways how to get Russian bear from his bear hole , where is the way to put him back? As EU crumbles economically Baltic states for sure will fall in Russians laps looking for any solution to survive.
>>514784830It already is, in finland, thanks to the 3 day SMO. 20+ new NATO bases.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHgrrVd6iMk>>514785068They literally won't go to war with him, even after all of this. They should have armed Ukraine to the teeth, in Feb 2014, when he invaded crimea.>>514784830You faggots are such scum for STILL trying to turn Russia into the victims in all of this.
>>514786741>Do you really are that pathetic?Very rational and logical argument. Your opponent is 'la bad' therefor what ever he say is wrong? Anon exchange ideas , not ID's to avoid shills like youjews on polhttps://youtu.be/4xl30Re1EUI
>>514787034>Why don't you listen what Russians sayBecause they fucking lie all the time.
>>514784830He had chinks on his doorstep and they are going to take eastern Russia The west wanted Russians natural resources they never cared about their land or people
>>514787034>just listen to russian gangsters>just surrender to aggressionYou fucking retards lmao.
>>514787450Russians influence border was ½ Berlin sins then after WW2 in moved... braking safety deal with Russia .'They lie' - your kids get castrated, (gender change) by faggots molested you get out of your home ownership tradition and ocean of sand niggers immigrants rape your daughters. All of this organized by jews. You still complain about dishonesty? Russians preserve their family values.You lie , no you lie ... kek... is that rational conversation or kids fight in a school yard? So what do Putin need? ...he told officially and objective didn't changed to day .you don't even know ,do you?, just accuse of lie. https://youtu.be/0FLJVJk8KPc
>>514785056>It's actually insane how he managed to lose the goodwill from Ukraine and turn them into enemies.new CIA prop dropped(((its the the same as the old one)))
>>514787495>You fucking retards lmao.That is not argument 60% Ukrainians ordinary people are on the Russian side . 5 - 6 million fight age men officially renounce illegal jew Zelensky regime Run away abroad. means 2 - 3 close family members or friends support their decision.Ukrainian men are hunted from the streets beten to micro busses and in 6 weaks get shoot on the front line. That is reality. Jew rats grabbing money and sale weapons on a black market . 40% of all aid from the West disappears in private jew rat pockets.What kind of gov. steel money and weapons from own soldiers? Jewish of cause. I suspect Zelensky cooperates with Putin, because he destroy Ukraine faster then war does...Ukraine corrupt shit hole collapse on its on with out war . According Ukraine constitution Zelensky is not a person to sign any agreement any more ... there is no one to deal with legally. they need elections
>>514784830The real miscalculation was to dissolve USSR. 35 years after the end of the cold war, western mercenaries using western weapons are at the Russian border killing Russian citizens while Ukrainian citizens are press-ganged into service to serve as backup for them.You may invent a billion justifications for it, but there are no Russian mercenaries killing Americans on the border of Florida. There are no Russian mercenaries killing Germans on the border of Germany, there are no Russian mercenaries killing English on the border of UK.The truth is that the western world has elected to destroy Russia and genocide its people a century ago in order to take control of their landmass and their resources, and has not paused in this task even for a second.This 'Cold' and 'Silent' attempt at genocide is the most insidious one yet, since any action undertaken by the victim is proclaimed as an act of aggression.Even worse, the perpetrators of this genocidal war use proxies to attack Russia, expunging other nations in their pursuit of Russia-less world. Ukrainian nationality will die simply because too few of them were able to escape the concentration camp Ukraine, a nation of suicide bombers on collision course with their allie, for the benefit of their enemy.
>>514787839>Russians preserve their family values.Yes, of killing their babies, anal raping each other and finally killing themselves. There are some cities in US or Western Europe that have some of the stats of Russia (abortion rate, hiv rate, murder, suicide, substance abuse etc.), but there's is none where it all happens at once. Russia is decades, maybe centuries ahead at all forms of degeneration.We want to keep these "values" as far away as possible.
>>514788928>Source for claim is a UN paper that recommends 'medical circumcision' as HIV transmission preventionYou thought yourself smart, but once again the kikes have tricked you, hurry up and get snipped or le ebil russian will rape HIV into you, retard.
>>514788411>>514789369nukes were the backup guaranteeUSE THEM, YOU COCK SUCKER
>>514789369>Source for claim is a UN paperWould've been easier to collect stats if Russia wasn't a totalitarian shithole that classifies all data that makes it look bad - that's literally all economic and social data because Russia in every sense is objectively miserable.I've been there, I saw it. Don't lie.
>>514790598Nukes are not a guarantee if you use them. The idea was that if you had nukes, nobody could attack you, but they invented ways to wage war without waging war.As part of victim blaming strategy, if Russia ever nukes anyone who stole all of their foreign money and supplied guns that killed its citizens, they will be at fault because nobody nuked Russia first.
>>514784830what he wants or doesn't want does not matter.
>>514791129>If only Russia wasnt a totalitarian shithole, we'd be able to collect the data on the HIV cases!>Alas, we actually don't know anything about HIV statistics in Russia.>So we're gonna estimate that there's a lot of HIV cases in Russia, yep! That'll do it!>Based on what? Oh just a hunch, check out this photo of a slum.>Also it is much lower in Europe despite decriminalization of faggotry and direct heroin pipeline through open borders.Very charming, amusing I'd say.
>>514791226>>514791366well, if you wont nuke first then you will go the way of the dodoyou don't deserve to exist
>>514791861Based upon your retarded views, you don't deserve to exist either and should kill yourself.>inb4 billions of excuses why you won't.>>514791129You know, taking another look at the picture, it actually appears to be a Polish slum - the car's license plate resembles polish plates.
dont care what that faggot manlet nigger ape wants he cant nooked that faggot monkey tries to lecture me about 900ad one more fuckin time i will kill every slavnigger in the fuckin aquarium
>>514785056putinga wanted this war. He is acting not on his own but in accord with a plan given to him since he was a gay little glownigger sucking dicks in freemason lodges.>>514788388>60% Ukrainians ordinary people are on the Russian sidelmfao ruzzians have lost all fucking semblance of common logic. Ukrainian nation is now lost to them, they ain't ever getting back the "friendship" that once was.
>>514784830He doesn't. Thats why the war will continue until the ukraine is completely destroyed
>>514792036if russians are cucks like you, it is over for your kind
>>514788411This is surprisingly well written. Good job Muscox.
>>514788411which genocide?
>>514788411>but there are no Russian mercenaries killing Americans on the border of Florida. There are no Russian mercenaries killing Germans on the border of Germany, there are no Russian mercenaries killing English on the border of UK.There's no mercenaries killing people in any of these places because none of these countries are at war. If we attacked Poland and we miscalculated so badly that war took us three and a half years and was still ongoing there'd probably be mercenaries from all over the world at our border killing Germans. Realistically in our case we wouldn't even be talking about mercenaries but entire armies from other countries at our borders.Get real.
>>514793039Try reading the post you're replying to maybe, or have germans switched to fucking their own eyes for entertainment?
america chimped out when the ussr was doing the same thing to cuba. it almost led to a nuke war. soviets realized how much it bothered the us and let it go.maybe it'll turn into a nuke war this time since european leaders, neodems and neocons are retarded.
>>514793135>Bro there wasn't a war>What is cold warIts funny that german people have forgotten their own history, like that part where germany did invade poland and everyone allowed it and nodded their heads, because genocide of poles was entirely in line with global western ambitions. No one sent even a single tank to defend Poland.
>>514785068why did west attacked deposed secular leader of syria and made an alliance with radical muslims in syria?
>>514793444>when the ussr was doing the same thing to cubathe cuban crisis was america's fault as well because mutticans put nukes in turkey to get closer to ussreverything is literally always america's fault
>>514784830He didnt but his military kinda sucks so here we are. Also much of what he says is bs as usual because NATO already is at his doorstep.
>>514784830This the same west that gives this retard infinite free passes and accused Ukraine of provoking him into the self defense invasion?
>>514793589I love how the Russian excuse is always “they forced me to do it”, like the soviets were never escalating tensions and conflicts across Europe before Hitler shoved a nice steaming dildo up Stalin’s ass.
>>514785752>25 burn a life in Odessa They blew themselves up when they stormed and barricaded the government building, are you stupid?
>>514793135OK nafo shill.Destroying 400,000 acres of farmland in Crimea when the destroyed the canal is a major reason for securing more land. It took 15 years to build the engineering marvel that was the crimean canal and was a huge source of pride. A million people were able to move there for jobs. Just a coincidence globohomo blew it up as soon as they took over because farms change climates and shit
>>514793851>You should water my shit when I take your landLel, keep crying Ivan
>>514791366>So we're gonna estimate that there's a lot of HIV cases in Russia, yep! That'll do it!Dude, it's other way. HIV stats were estimated over reality checkings (that were made every 5 years or so) and each time they underestimated because there's far more HIV in Russia that was ever expected.And it's not just HIV - in every metric Russia is doing worse than any estimation. That's why Russian government classified all data as vital for state's security.>>514792036>it actually appears to be a Polish slumDon't lie. We both know how Russian mud looks like.
>>514784830>Why would he wantWho gives a shit what he wants?>It seems like a huge miscalculationCorrect.If he didn't want a highly-militarized neighbor, launching a limp-dicked failed invasion is about the LAST thing you want to do.
>>514793851>people destroy things in warShocking
>>514793924Not an arguement faggot shill.>facts are crying
>>514793833It's factual. Nobody asked you to swim to an entirely different continent and start surrounding a country that helped you stop the nazis with nuclear missiles aimed at it. Don't be surprised that USSR wasn't a fan of it and paid you back with the same coin.
>>514788411One word.Crimea :)
>>514793966>MY BOY DINDU NUFFIN, HE WAS A GOOD BOYRussians deserve to be treated like the stupid niggers they are.
>>514793851>globohomo blew it upReminder that a dam is a heavily reinforced structure that HOLDS BACK A RIVER.Ukraine did not possess any weapons that even COULD destroy that dam from the outside.It blew up from the inside.Russia occupied the dam when it blew up, therefore Russia blew up the dam.Additionally, the refused to evacuate civilians who hadn't begged their occupiers for Russian passports, so you also left whole families to drown.You are going to pay for your crimes, you fucking animal, and no amount of lying will save you.
>>514793934>Bro! They underestimated the numbers! It was actually bigger!>How do you know that, if Russia is a totalitarian shithole that censors everything.>Uhm... Estimations! GLOBAL HEALTH DATA EXCHANGE said so! (No data received from Russia)>Actually we estimate that Russia doesn't exist because according to estimations they all died a billion years ago from the case of 'shit country' or something!Yeah yeah yeah keep trying.>Don't lie. We both know how Russian mud looks like.You mean Polish mud, since you're in Poland?
>>514793951Wow I made shills mad.They tried a humiliation ritualNow 1.7 million people are dead/missingWas it worth it?Did the leaders in Kiev who started this war pay a person price?No, they are currently trying to escape with thier loot in miles long lines of refugees fleeing. That why they passed a law that let men under 24 leave the country last week.
>>514793521>like that part where germany did invade poland and everyone allowed it and nodded their headsWhat are you talking about? Are you talking about medieval history where intervention was practically not feasible? >>514793851The same logic applies here. Western mercenaries are at the Russian border because Russia started a war and the reason why Ukrainians stopped supplying water to Crimea is because Russians took it over.This is purely self-inflicted. Literally the Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you.
>>514794000Two words.International Coup :(
>>514794083But you literally say that>US GOOD BOY DINDU NUFFINAre you that retarded?
>>514794243So it was an international coup that invaded and annex Crimea?
>>514794320It was international coup that provoked the annexation since the new, illegal, unrecognized coup government refused to guarantee access to Russian naval facility there.Until that coup, Russia leased the land from Ukraine for over 20 years without any issues.
>>514794268Nobody said that, tou stupid fucking monkey. The ENTIRE WORLD is fully aware of US foreign policy history. Its the East’s favorite talking point. You can post about the west’s government in their own home country and criticize them because you fucking can. What about Russia’s dirty past in Moscow? You think you faggots ever wanna talk about the battle of stalingrad’s infamous charges? Disingenuous faggots.
Oy vey Europoors, go 1v1 vs russia you little faggot roaches
>>514794222Damn they really did replace history lessons in germany with globohomo sex education. Let me educate you, in 1939 Nazi Germany invaded Poland. Nobody helped Poland because everyone wanted to see Poland destroyed.
>>514794458>Switch topic just to save faceYou're the disingenuous faggot. Again, who asked for US to fly their stupid nuclear missiles to another continent and park them next to USSR? Why're you upset that USSR retaliated with the same exact move?
>>514794110Cope and seethe troon shill. Nobody buys your bullshitYou will never be a woman>https://archive.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/whats-up-with-the-crimea-water-crisis-explainer.html>In 2014, when Russia invaded and then illegally began occupying the peninsula, Ukraine shut off the water supply through the North Crimean Canal. It led to water shortages, exacerbated by the driest seasons in over a century.
>>514785068Imagine if Germany had conquered the whole of Europe, leaving Russia for last. Nato in Ukraine, is strategically, equivalent for that. Russia saw Europe chimp out countless times in the past several centuries. Would you trust Nato, to remain peaceful, and a 'defensive alliance', with the likes of climate change, resource shortages, political instability from ethnic conflicts due to immigration, etc?No. That is why Ukraine in Nato is an existential threat to Russia, no matter what way you look at it.
>>514794575You stupid faggots literally deserved a dozen nukes and maybe Siberia would’ve been free from you stupid backwards faggots
>>514794222>Western mercenaries are at the Russian border becauseNATO has been surrounding Russia with troops for decades faggot shill
>>514794728You're a walking talking evidence of unreasonable hatred of Russia, born out of refusal to accept that you speak in defense of an evil genocidal entity.
>>514794639Its simple logic, subhuman. You don't have to "believe" anyone. You just have to know what a dam is to know it wasn't blown up with some GIMLRS.And the reason Russia is SO keen to deny destroying the dam is because when combined with your refusal to save the families you drowned, its your worst war crime of the war by far.PATHETIC how you can't take responsibility even as you gloat about your own brutality.
>>514794799You should stop opressing SiberiaLots of cute women there
>>514784830Why would he cause all of his neighbors to align with the west?
>>514794187>How do you know that, if Russia is a totalitarian shithole that censors everything.Because up to late 2010s most data wasn't classified, retard. However estimation between each research were much more favorable to reality, so Russian government ultimately forbid research and kept with estimates.You have more HIV than fags of San Francisco, you have more abortions than niggers of Bronx and your country isn't 4th economy in the world. Actually, based on only metrics that your government can't classify (foreign trade) lately it not just became smaller than Italy, but smaller than Poland - which per capita makes every one of you poor as fuck.I'm sorry, but silly coping won't change objective reality.>You mean Polish mudOnly in Russia you have houses that literally are drowning in mud, because permafrost on which they were built started melting due to warmth of the house. There are very few other countries that have permafrost and none of them builts like that.
>>514784830The west started it with the 2014 maidan coup, this has all been discussed before
>>514794498>1939 Nazi Germany invaded Poland. Nobody helped PolandYou could have helped them, nobody else could have sent enough forces in that time frame to make any difference. If we had screwed up the invasion of Poland as royally as you had with the invasion of Ukraine Western forces would have likely arrived there.>>514794781So true.
>>514794913oh mein gott! an actual kike!
>>514788411>This 'Cold' and 'Silent' attempt at genocide is the most insidious one yet, since any action undertaken by the victim is proclaimed as an act of aggression.This is happening in all western nations that have already been conquered. Russia is simply next on their list.
>>514794875You mean when Kiev desyroyed it again last year? You do know it almost caused a disaster at a Russian nuclear power plant right. Thats as rediculous as Russia blowing up Nordstream.Fuck off you massive faggot>well we destroyed it last time but not this time!
>>514795033>various animal noisesYeah, that's what I thought, bitch. You have nothing to say.Maybe talk about biolabs or something, that'll save your country.
>>514795006Your mom
>>514795027>that have already been conquered. Russia is simply next on their list.This is so fucking dumb. You are the country that invaded.Your copes are so fucking pointless.Nobody spouts this shit unless they're paid to or have a gun to their head.
>>514794988>Because up to late 2010s most data wasn't classified, retardAh so it suddenly wasn't a totalitarian shithole when it was convenient.>so Russian government ultimately forbid researchCan we see this order of forbidding, or is it your schizophrenia talking?>You have more HIV than fags of San Francisco, you have more abortions than niggers of Bronx and your country isn't 4th economy in the worldAccording to 'estimates' because uhm trust the science goy, make sure to cut off your foreskin to shield yourself from HIV.>Only in Russia you have houses that literally are drowning in mud, because permafrost on which they were built started melting due to warmth of the house. There are very few other countries that have permafrost and none of them builts like that.The houses actually look like something Poles built in 1800. If it was a Russian house built on permafrost, and then sunk when that permafrost melted, the house wouldn't stand for more than a year. It may just be that its a picture of a Polish shithole and it remained so for centuries.
>>514793962>Water my shit when I took your landLMAO, dumb unselfaware orc, rofl
Real talk: will Russia ever take Kramatorsk/Sloviansk? Donbass really isnt theirs until its captured
>>514795000>You could have helped themThe USSR provided free military protection to the entire eastern half of Poland. Or something like that. Do you have any idea about the political situation which resulted in Poland getting spit roasted? Or is your understanding literally just 'moustache men bad'?
>>514795298What do you call endless immigration, that no matter what we vote for, is never stopped?
>>514795110So now you are denying there were 46 biolabs run by the US dept of defense in Ukraine?You really are a delusional faggotYou do know the same people partnered with China to make COVID, right retard?Also ukraine was shelling that dam for months, the theory is the attacks weakened it.>just cause we shelled it doesnt mean we wanted to destroy it!
>>514795298Who's paying you?
>>514784830He's gonna get a west-aligned hostile nation on his door-step. His choice is whether that nation is Ukraine or Poland.
>>514795541>What do you call endless immigrationA policy of the past that Russian shills love to talk about when deflecting from war crimes.
>>514784830Dialy reminder that in 2025 the "West" just means Jewish run society.
>>514795608>I-it's a past policy!When did it stop?
>>514788411Should've nuked and taken over the west when you had the chance retard.
>>514795647Its been stopping for years.Your dictator just didn't tell you, peasant.
>>514795686>Bro it's been stopping! Two more weeks and it'll stop!How's your H1B visa naturalization process going?
>>514795541> What do you call endless immigration, that no matter what we vote for, is never stopped?Centralized federal government
I think they rightly understand the West as a nucleating empire and are willing to set aside short term squabbles over a frozen plain to fight a more powerful foe. It’s basically the West v. Asia and we need wise up and realize that already because we are currently making enemies out of Latin America and the Europeans are dead weight.
>>514784830What nation? Soon there will be no one old enough to hold the gun.
>>514795679>Stupid Russia! Either you murder and subjugate us all, or we'll kill you!Westoids are mentally ill.
>>514787034russian are flowing their swamp with worse kind of migrants all the time, no control at all, you meme brown cocksucking faggot. Droning you and your zigger comrades into oblivion is how Europe gets fixed.
>>514795735Ivan, you are more than welcome to keep talking like its 2013. It only makes your propaganda that much more ineffective to anyone with a brain.
>>514788411Should've invaded nato instead of some random jihadi shit hole. You Slavic subhumans love to keep getting baited by your enemies.
>>514795858Look at the numbers faggotRefugees coming through Russia is in the hundreds.So where did the millions in the EU come from? Why does the EU sanction members who wont take in you shitskins?
>>514795385>Ah so it suddenly wasn't a totalitarian shithole when it was convenient.What the fuck are you even talking about?>Can we see this order of forbidding, or is it your schizophrenia talking?Try to find any post-covid data on Russia that wasn't classified. If you find one - then it's probably bad news (like picrel) and will be classified/falsify in next few months (like picrel).>According to 'estimates' because uhm trust the science goy, make sure to cut off your foreskin to shield yourself from HIV.Maybe just use common sense and avoid getting anally raped by some Chechen?>If it was a Russian house built on permafrost, and then sunk when that permafrost melted, the house wouldn't stand for more than a year.It's not that fast. In Russia such houses stand for generations and people still live in them despite tilting.
>>514795923OK Pajeet.
>>514795949Have you tried to just not be a retard who picks fights with everyone?
>>514795964And you are literally the country allied with india, you moron...
>>514795433Yes, they are going to conquer everything to the bessarabian gap before this is over. Its physically impossible to prevent at this point unless Starmer and Macron deploy regular forces to oppose them. Which will lead to mutiny, revolution, possible civil war, and regime change at home. So the coalition of the willing have put themselves in a lose-lose checkmate position. And meanwhile popular opinion in Ukraine has swung completely anti-war with all of the enforcer units now being cycled through combat positions due to lack of human shields. This position is nuanced in the sense that the average Ukrainian supports their armed forces and statehood, in a conventional sense of civic attachment, but no longer see Russians as aggressors and many in fact perceive them as liberators while bemoaning casualties caused by their involvement. It isn't black and white identity wise. The kieven kernel left behind once this war is over will be highly polarized and unstable. The EU will need to impose travel controls soon just to deal with this new social reality.
>>514795686It hasn't, Trump just recently said he wants 600 000 chinese to move into America
>>514796024If I see a pajeet defending unrestricted migration, I call him out as a pajeet. Simple as.
>>514795963>Bro bro everything is classified banned forbidden!>Posts a public news articlePolish saviour of Europe, struggling to rub two braincells together.>It's not that fast. In Russia such houses stand for generations and people still live in them despite tilting.I understand you speak from your experience with Polish 19th century housing you're forced to still live in.
>>514795962thats western cucks policies. Not my problem. All I know is that both brownoids and russians crossing my country border should get dismembered.>you wont get EU gibswe suspended right for asylum (uh oh! muh human rights) and what happened? Nothing. We deport brownoids and Ukies that don't behave - nothing. Nobody in EU wants migrants, if EU won't realize that, there will be no EU.
>>514796094>The past didn't happen because Trump said a thing about the futureNice argument. I have nothing to add.>>514796109>defending unrestricted migrationLol, make sure you do a double-peace sign for the drone so we can identify you as a former shill once you're converted to meat.
>>514796384Past did happen, during Biden 10 million brown people came to America and Trump is not deporting them
>>514796384I'm going to use a VPN to apply to your position on jobs.now.
>>514796490>and Trump is not deporting themLol, if you say so.>>514796495And that's about the mightiest attack Russia is capable of these days.Did you hear that your troops have been advancing without uniforms?You're so weak that you have to pretend to be civilians just to get close without getting killed.And you're just so pathetic that you're letting it happen...
>>514796644No, but I heard your mother was murdered in New Delhi. My condolences.
>>514796778Again, you are living in the shithole country that has stooped to allying with shithole India, and is letting in as many migrants as will come.You insulting your own ally and pretending its me isn't landing the way you think it is.
>>514796866Thanks for another (you), saar, keep doing the needful
>>514796977>p-p-p-please stop replying... I ran out of script...Aww, poor thing.
>>514796977Laugh all you want.There is no more fuel for golf carts.Russian troops have hooked them up to donkeys and they ride them naked into battle. With fucking shovels.
>>514796175>Polish saviour of EuropePoland was 3rd most mentioned country (after Russia and US) by your president in his interview with Cucker Carlos. Nobody asked for "history lesson" about how Poles took over Ukraine or started WW2. Nobody asked him if he trully believes that "Polish mercs" are main foreign ground force in Ukraine.Obviously existence of Slavic country that isn't absolute shithole and Slavic nation that likes their freedom is existential threat to Russian state. It also hurts your national pride, so I understand your reaction.>I understand you speak from your experience with Polish 19th century housing you're forced to still live in.Nope. First, I speak from my experience in Russia. As I said, very few other countries have permafrost in the first place.Second my house is built on foundation from 15th-16th century. Picrel is my literal cellar (we're making new floor atm). If you're still alive after the war come meet me, so I can show you how people can live in civilized country.
>>514795998So why did you retards invade Ukraine? Why not just act peaceful and let them invade you and btfo them since attacking them isn't your strong point retard?
I read somewhere that Jews were going to start the Ukraine war on Pol somewhere and it happened exactly as laid out. It seems the only happenings we are going to get are Jew approved ones from now on.
>>514797477Whoever told you its 400 years old is lying to you.Based on the masonry it was a drainage sump under a live stock barn (ca. 1850's), then increased in depth to a cold cellar (ca. late 1800's), converted to a heated shelter (ca. early 1900's), and finally turned into a residential foundation (mid-1900's). The stones have been repurposed from larger construction projects but quarried locally. You likely live along the Oder in an area of old Prussia. Everything in your photo, aside from the fresh concrete, was constructed by Germans.>A small farm, near a series of rivers with stone bridges, and close to canals. My guess is within 30km of Bydgoszcz.
>>514798240Could've prevented the big war by taking out the jewish puppet.Sadly, Ukrainian people were too brainwashed. They allowed their president to blur the line between combatant and civilian by picking up free rifles and grenade launchers Zelensky handed out in the streets.Then he ordered to open fire upon the Police special forces that were heading for Kiev to arrest him, and they followed that order. The Police literally drove past and around them, and they chased after them to attack them.It was all downhill from there.
>>514799388Thats because Soros and USAID gave them free textbooks. They teach propaganda like the Hodomor hoax.
>>514798539House is registered as historical monument (like most of the town) and everything is documented according to local laws (which is pain in the ass).In 19th century it was a tavern. It was built on previous building (on foundations beyond walls of current cellar). Before that one there was a building from 13th century, but foundations aren't that old.Dealing with maintance (e.g. ground waters) sucks, but everyone who visits say it's worth it.
>>514799388Ivan, you are the ones who've been brainwashed.A thinking person would raise questions at just the idea of a "defensive invasion", but you animals view your government's lies as "our lies" and embrace them.This is why your entire country is going to hell. That's what happens when you're this willfully fucking shitty.
>>514784830He didn't want that, and that is why he invaded. It's just that their self-image of some USSR tier global superpower that could topple ukro government in 3 days turned out to be a propaganda bubble and not reality. Now he can't back down when he spent past 20 years whining about evil west and how stronk Russia is.
>>514798539Also, this part of Poland was never German. Cellar was built by Poles or Jews when town was part of Russian Empire (after 1815).
>>514800173And let me add that the core reason behind ukros becoming more pro-west is that thier rusian aligned oligarchs didn't do shit for the country and ukraine was one of the poorest nations. Putin annexed Crimea when ukros elected pro European candidate, and ruskies in their fantasies thought it would scare ukros off, meanwhile it just made Ukraine even more pro-western and hating Russia.
>>514800079>A thinking person would raise questions at just the idea of a "defensive invasion"Why did you invade Vietnam, ameritard? Why did you invade Iraq twice? Why invade Lybia and Syria? Why invade Afghanistan?You're a dishonest idiot.
>>514800304Ok faggotEveryone in Kiev was driving a Range Rover and partying at the disco everynight. They kept thier country poor. At the end of the day the hundeds of millions to US politicians kids on energy board seats came out of the electric/gas bill.
>>514800079>A thinking person would raise questions at just the idea of a "defensive invasion", but you animals view your government's lies as "our lies" Hmmm.>US President Donald Trump sounded an optimistic tone on Wednesday about violence between Russians and Ukrainians concluding soon after he had a phone conversation with Russian president Vladimir Putin.>"My expectation and hope is this will be closing down sooner than later, but Russia has a right to defend itself," Trump told reporters at the White House.
>>514800334>Why did you invade Vietnam, ameritard?That was wrong, just like Russia invading Ukraine.And we paid for that war, just like Russia will pay for its crimes against Ukraine.See, when you're a thinking human and not a stupid animal, you become free of the knee-jerk "my country is always right" bullshit.And that's important because that exact bullshit has killed over a million Russians.Die until you learn, peasant.
>>514800526I'm not saying Ukraine became a paradise in 2014 once they started to try to integrate with western economies, but things objectively were getting way better compared to 25 years of rusian aligned oligarch ukraine that was basically stagnant for the whole of the duration.
>>514800578>but Russia has a right to defend itself," Trump told reportersYeah, he's been telling a bunch of Russia's lies for them.Sadly tho, his own position is too weak to actually save Russia.Russia has fucked itself too badly. Complete self-destruction.
>>514794222>Literally the Jew cries out in pain as he strikes youIt’s funny because when your mustached leader was writing his book he was referencing his experiences on the streets of vienna with jews from far Eastern Europe (hint, they learned those rhetorical tricks from Russians)
>>514800729Actually I just took a paragraph from the article where Biden okays Israel's demolishing on Gaza.https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/us-sends-official-to-israel-to-encourage-gaza-de-escalation-667980I'm surprised you haven't recognized the "Israel has the right to defend itself" quote. Must be new here, or not an anti-zionist.
>>514800811Okay? And so you think I support Israel?How about you get the fuck off my /pol/ with your newfag bullshit, you ignorant 3rd worlder.Giving you animals the internet was a mistake, and I expect it'll be rectified within a decade.
>>514800634>Forgets to wave off other legitimate criticismI am thinking really hard and it seems that you're full shit, just another mad brainlet.
>>514800811Dont worry, many people are very aware that Israel has about 30% Russian speakers.
>>514784830Remember "the bear leave the cave to never return" what part of that you didn't understand!?
>>514800931>b-b-b-but I also mentioned Iraq! T_TCry more. That was wrong too, and that changes nothing about what either of us is saying.You are a jingoist who blindly supports your country's mistakes.Die. Until. You. Learn.
>>514800930>Okay? And so you think I support Israel?Not necessarily:>Must be new here, OR not an anti-zionist.>you ignorant 3rd worlder.Russia is 2nd world. >Giving you animals the internet was a mistake, and I expect it'll be rectified within a decade.Russian internet segment is self-sufficient by now, they've been preparing to cut the cord at a moment notice for a decade at least.How I'm going to miss the anti-war bleeding heart mutts and their "It's different", "whataboutism", "but we were very sorry" when that happens. Not. Lmao.
>>514801046Stop. Coping. Retard.The coup your nation created in Ukraine, all the brainwashing you've done upon them, THAT was wrong. If you didn't do it, we wouldn't have to fight Ukraine.Even your president recognizes the folly, one day you will too, and you will beg for forgiveness both from us and from what remains of the ukrainians.
>>514801302Oh forgot another favorite "it was the other admin that did it, today's America is totally different".
>>514801046What about bombing Cambodia? Orange agent?
>>514784830>hostile nationwho says their hostile? The UK and USA are collaborating with russia to get rid of the ethno-centric nationalists that wouldn't have fit in either the west or the russian east - why not just kill off all the men and divide up the nation and take the spoils of that?Do you know that the UK covered up the holodomor in ukraine for the soviets - there is a movie about it with maggie gylenhal in it - did you all forget how the UK sacrificed poland to the soviets? Did you all forget that napoleon gave the UK and russia reason to be allies? Why are you all so blind to so many of these things???
>>514801302>Russian internet segment is self-sufficient by now,>he posted on 4chSelf-sufficient but not statisfactory or what
>>514801328>The coup your nation created in Ukraine, all the brainwashing you've done upon themAnother thing for you to die-until-you-learn:Nobody wants to be ruled by filthy fucking Russians.It was not "brainwashing" that did that. It was your decades of repression and Terror Famine.It was Bucha and the D'nipro dam.You animals are going to fucking pay for your crimes and there is NOTHING that can stop it.>>514801434Note how you have to reach back decades and decades to find things that are maybe 10% as bad as what Russia is doing RIGHT THIS SECOND.Its all just cope from butchers, and none of it will save you.
>>514785752>muh Odessa>muh Dombabwe children>mu opressionShow us your real flag churka monkey
>>514801556>It was Bucha and the D'nipro dam.both of which were done by the jewish ukrainian government.
>>514801611why did you abandon your family, tapac?
>>514801556See? Even now you invent lies to justify your assault upon ukrainian people. You caused Bucha, and the people there were murdered by Ukrainian hands.All those slain in Bucha had Russian MREs next to them on the photographs. They were civilians who received Russian humanitarian aid, and Ukrainians killed them for it.You're just another dishonest shill.
>>514801620You literally have bots searching those terms so you can provide a timely denial EVERY TIME its mentioned.You know its your worst crimes of the war, and you KNOW that once its commonly understood, nobody will even raise an eyebrow as Russians start dying by the TENS of millions.>>514801695>B-b-b-but no! People LOVE being under the Russian boot!Lol, whatever faggot.Lose another million men for that lie if it makes you happy.You will be skinned alive by your own people.
>>514800277How close was my guess? I was right about it being in the East at least.
>>514801656Show me your real flag shitskin.
>>514801794>Can't explain why all the killed were in possession of Russian humanitarian MREs on the photographs>Starts talking straight up schizophrenic nonsenseJust admit you were wrong for christ's sake. Save some face.
>>514801794so where's the satellite footage? why did the jewish ukrainian government send "anti collaborator" task force a day before?>nobody will even raise an eyebrow as Russians start dying by the TENS of millions.two more weeks? the ukranny lost, it's over, and your hohol family died for nothing. make another seething post, it will change nothing
>>514785068>Kills 1.5 million towelheads out of nowhere like a rabid pitbullVeeeery peaceful, right
>>514801900fag marriage and tranny surgery will never be legal in the bulgaria
>>514801794>Mr. Trump... the president... he's so weak... I'm so sorry to see it.... *sob* Bro I'm so sorry! He's been trying to run cover for Vlad but not even his grace is enough.... Vlad did so much bad stuff, he bombed children in ookraine... himself... I just can't>I hate Israel btw... Hear me out though... don't invade anyone ok??? It's bad... we do it all the time and mr.Trump... the president... has been thrusting his pelvis towards Venezuela lately, after threatening Greenland and Panama.... and also bombing Iran.... and also after Biden helped Israel level gaza.... *sob* and before that mr.Trump.... the president... bombed Syria and armed ISIS again... after Obama (god bless, I hate Israel btw)...droned a dozen countries... and also after he >but DONT FIGHT WARS DONT DO IT ITS BAD OK ITS BAD IM SORRRRYY PLEASE STOP oh also before that dubya bombed Afghan and Iraq... Hanged Saddam... after Clinton bombed Yogurtsaliva or something...saved muslims there... after dubya's dad bombed Iraq again then a guy before him did a few coups here in there in Iran and like but we paid for it! We sent them bombs.... on their heads... ok we're sorry OK?!.? God bless>*clapping furiously*>V:AD YOU CRSSOED THE LINE stopinvading stop raping ukrainian toddlers!! ..with spoons and washing machines I saw on cnn they were taking toilets and dehumidifiers...stop invading ufck putin go away ukraine is free let them eat nuldelman's crusty coookieSLAVAUKRAINI i stand for the flag god bless semperfi I hate israel btw
>>514784830Only america is allowed to invade foreign nations.
then why didnt he invade alaska or turkey instead? he's just obsessed with killing whites just like all kike puppets
>>514802252Alaska and Turkey weren't killing its Russian minority with missiles.
>>514802057>muh fags>muh tranniesShow me your real flag shitskin
>>514785056Not true, you simply fail to understand the Slavic mindsetUkrainians are not hostile to Russia because they have been victimized by it, in fact they (like the Poles) got a shit ton of territory from Moscow. They are hostile to Russia because they are resentful of its comparable success and importance.The reason why Ukrainians are "pro-western" is because they are greedy, lazy and want gibs from EU. They want to emigrate as soon as possible because they lack any morals or loyalty to their history and people. They betrayed themselves without even managing to cash on; it so hearing Moscow act like a voice of conscience is unbearable for them. They will do anything to shut Russians up and distance themselves by inventing a new fake identity. As long as Russia exists it reminds them what they did and who they really are, directly going against their national myths of supposed "ethnicity". So they are extremely hostile towards it and want to destroy it in order to re-write history and erase the truth of their identityWe gave "monte-negrins" everything they ever could ask for and more, money, territory, full autonomy and independence, never waged war against them etc. The amount of vitriol coming from pro-western nafo "monte-negrins" is unbelieavable. You would think we bombed them like Nato or genocided them like Germans or enslaved them like Turks but nope, those are all their new best friends and we are the problem. They even attack those who remained Serbs and even go so far to celebrate ethnic cleansing of Serbs from the state we gave them without literally any other reason beyond their burning guilt they feel deep down toward their Serbian ancestors
>>514802318because there werent russians invading their territory
>>514802519>They want to emigrate as soon as possible because they lack any morals or loyalty to their history and peopleAm I allowed to base my opinion about ALL serbs also on this specific topic? Or would you say this is unfair?
>>514801835Let's say it's 30km but from Sandomierz.
>>514802949>Your family lives in Donbas since 1800s>in 2014 Americans decide to coup your country>Vote no>You're now an invader of your own country and neo-nazi retards on jewish payroll launch missiles at your city>Poles literally believe thisUSAID-ran schools failed you.
>>514802372What's the story behind this image?
>>514784830Damn I dunno I guess he should move to another planet to avoid that?
>>514803268>The 2012 law On the principles of the State language policy [uk; ru] granted regional language status to Russian and other minority languages. It allowed the use of minority languages in courts, schools and other government institutions in areas of Ukraine where the national minorities exceed 10% of the population>>n April 2019, the Ukrainian parliament voted a new law, the law "On supporting the functioning of the Ukrainian language as the State language". The law made the use of Ukrainian compulsory lying faggot
>>514802519This is some next level delusion>Why does everyone want to leave Serboslavia>They hate us cause they ain't us
>>514803605>Post nonsense>Call me liarWhat're you talking about retard? 2012 they confirmed Russian language was good, then that government was couped in 2014, and then in 2019 they forbid usage of Russian language.
>>514801507>UK covered up the holodomor in ukraine for the sovietsThe whole Soviet Union was starving at the time retard, you nafo faggots pretend it was only ukraine.
>>514803847Better question is why weren't those who wanted to remain allowed to or allowed to rejoin now if they have been separated? Surely everyone who recognizes right of self determination would be in favor of that, right?>>514803117No that's completely right, people of Serbia who migrated to your country are scum and I would personally forbid them to ever return or be able to visitLuckily they are a tiny minority
>>514803902>Post nonsenseYou didnt even fucking read it. It is literally the exact same thing you said. Lying faggot. >It took the evil Nazi regime 5 years to ban the language AFTER we attacked them in 2014what a piece of shit you are
>>514804274>people of Serbia who migrated to your countryNo, ALL serbians are to be judged by the ones that ran here. You did the exact same thing with Ukrainians, so its only fair to apply these standards to you.
>>514804323>Uhm they only banned language 5 years after the coup>Who cares if they started murdering their own citizens in Donbas day 1>Checkmate atheists>Edit: Thanks for reddit gold kind strangerI hope you can find some medicine for your retarded delusions.
>>514804380I'm not judging Ukrainians by the minority who emigrated I judge the majority who rejected their Russian origin and voted for a jew to join EU for gibs and passportOnly around 35% of people here want to join EU at best
>>514804476>>Who cares if they started murdering their own citizens in Donbas day 1Why did Russia attack when the murders decreased by 95%? Now, hundreds of thousands of russian speakers are dead. It does not make any sense whatsoever. These are russian stats btw (since you called wikipedia nonsense even thou it 100% agreed with your words)
>>514803268>Your family lives in Donbas since 1800sReminder that Russian-speakers in the Donbass were moved in by the soviets specifically to break Ukrainian ethnic unity (amid Russia's genocides in that country), and thus Russian filth objectively have zero claim to any land in Ukraine.Even Crimea only "belonged" to Russia after they genocided the Tatars.Its just more ill-gotten gains for the shithole empire that can't do any better.
>>514804550>I'm not judging Ukrainians by the minority who emigratedYes you did>The reason why Ukrainians are "pro-western" is because they are greedy, lazy >They want to emigrate as soon as possible because they lack any morals or loyalty to their history and people. You did not specify at all. so neither will I. All serbians are exactly the same. pretty fucking retarded, isnt it?
>>514804708You are a retarded faggot makinh shit up
>>514804696>Why should a criminal be arrested after mass murders he committed? See he reduced his murder sprees to only 5% of his previous top score.Europeans are mentally ill. We went in after the second peace treaty we brokered was violated. It displayed that Ukraine doesn't care for lasting peace and will resume their genocidal attacks.
>>514784830Nafo troon thread opinion discarded
>>514804708>You don't understand!>This region of Kievan Rus never had Russians!>They were moved in by the soviets to break up the ethnicity of Kievan Rus - Ukrainians!>And then they starved them all in Holodomor!>Even though Soviets created the Ukrainian Republic, no such entity ever existed before soviet rule!Crack, stop smoking it.
>>514804898>Europeans are mentally ill.>Hundreds of thousands of death are clearly BETTER than 20.Please explain why starting a war with hundreds of thousands of dead is preferable to 20 dead in donbas in a year.Do you know the name Igor Girkin?
>>514804898>Europeans are mentally ill.I dont appreciate your insult, but I want to express my gratitude that you are aware of the clear distinction between us :)
>>514803393Vatnik twin selling his ass to a Belarussian general, cum/chug/ers proceed to claim gay sex is based and trad>>514804274>Surely everyone who recognizes right of self determination would be in favor of that, right?like Kosovo? Like Slovenia? Like Vukovar? Like Saraevo? Like Chechnya?
>>514804989>>Even though Soviets created the Ukrainian Republic, no such entity ever existed before soviet rule!"Russian Federation" didn't exist before 1991.
>>514805166We tried to arrest the government of Ukraine with limited casualties, sent in a police force to do it. Ukrainians decided it was time to be a suicide bomber for their western masters instead.Ergo, now all of Ukraine are responsible for the genocide and its safer to remove the entire threat.>>514805208Well yeah Russia is Russia, it's not Europe. I don't think anyone sane would want to be a European with all that rampant cuckoldry and pedophilic satanist rituals going down. Even here you defend outright murder of people based on their choice of language with missiles. Mentally ill.
>>514804784I didn't judge by those who emigrated, I am judging them for faking a nation to get into EU and then emigrate. You already saw how quickly they used the first excuse they got (Russian invasion) to flee to west en masse, completely forgeting about their "Ukrainian identity".
>>514805412That's not what UN believes by granting Russia an exclusive member seat on the security council in full recognition of it being the same state as all previous iterations of Russia.Unlike Ukraine who were outright denied entry into UN and NATO during 20th century, and were recognized by no one.
>>514805539I can post maps with Ukraine from 16th century, you can't post a single map with "Russian Federation" on it before 1991.
>>514805617Again, that's not what the rest of the world believes. Russian federation is continuation of RSFSR, of Russian Empire, and all the way down to Kievan Rus.Schizophrenic Ukrainian artists painting shit are ignored by everyone.
>>514805465So why aren't you judging yourself?
>>514805713Cope, pidor.Your "Russian Federation" is a jewish bolshevik multicultural Frankenstein created in 1991
The USA wouldnt allow a pro Russia puppet gov in Mexico to put northbound mid range nuke missiles on our southern border either
>>514805817But it's you who's coping since Russia is on UN Security Council and is a nuclear-armed state, and you're literally a mercenary for anglosaxon retard.World's history does not know any state by the name of "Ukraine" until it was created in 1917 by the Russian communists. The closest you can claim to having a state of your own is Cossack Hetmanate, but even that wasn't called Ukraine, and many of you are not even descendants of cossacks.I'm sorry that you must base your national pride on some schizophrenic maps of Ukrainian Agartha.
>>514806067Not even going to read your pidor seething, since you still can't post a single map with "Russian Federation" on it before 1991.
>>514806154>I'm just gonna plug my ears and screamNice cope. Stay safe, don't get mobilized, otherwise a schizo like you might accidently kill his fellow soldiers.
>>514805342Like half of Bosnia, North of Kosovo and half of Montenegro. Also half of Dalmatia but those people got ethnically cleansedYugoslav wars weren't fought because Serbia refused to let other peoples seceede, they were fought because they refused to let Serbs do the same. If Serbs acted the way Albanians, Croats etc. did it would have ethnically cleansed the other half of Dalmatia and all of Serbia, Bosnia and Montenegro
>>514806325Remind me again, how many serbs lived in Slovenia?
>>514806259>I'm just going to close my eyes and seethePidor, please. I posted multiple maps with Ukraine from 16-17th century yet you still repeating your pidriling about communists in 1917.You pidor pederation didn't exist before 1991. Deal with it.
>>514806325Secessionism is retarded anyway, everyone should be interested in working together to rival other empires and instead it's all back to back brother-killing.
>>514805412>"Russia" right at the top of the map conveniently not highlighted>Moscow drawn as the largest city on the map>Kiev misspelled not once but twice (KioViensis, KioW), par for the course with everyone's confusion on how to spell it>Kiev also being a tiny spec on the map compared to the much larger Lvov>"Kiovia Moscoviti" written next to Donbass foreshadowing the 2014 events>dated 1720, the map came out 34 years after Poland sold Kiev to the Russian tsarSo much to unpack here.
>>514806443Must feel bad for you to get your ass kicked by such a young country then, after we tricked you into giving up your nukes, eh?Honestly, if I were you I'd try to save my pride and admit that Russia is an all-powerful ancient empire, that's why you keep losing. Otherwise it sounds like you're just impotent retards.
>>514806560>So much to unpack here.Especially how communists time traveled back to 1720 to create Ukraine which didn't exist before them.
>>514806397Who gives a shit about Slovenia they were allowed to illegaly seceede after like 11 days. There was no Slovenian Yugoslav civil war because there wasn't like a half of the country wanting to stay>>514806486Exactly
>>514806637You're such a pedantic little boy, but you forgot that nobody said that.>Even though Soviets created the Ukrainian Republic, no such entity ever existed before soviet rule!None of the maps you posted have anything close to "Ukrainian Republic".
>>514806619Must feel bad for you to get bombed every day and have gasoline shortages now, eh? But it will only get worse, in winter they will start hitting high voltage transformers and power stations so you can enjoy rolling blackouts when it's cold.
>>514806726>None of the maps you posted have anything close to "Ukrainian Republic".You sitlt didn't post a single map with "Russian Federation" on it before 1991, while I posted multiple maps with Ukraine from 16-17 century.Seethe for me, pidor.
>>514806738>Only 2 more weeks!You're never pushing us out, you've wasted your lives on a promise of "HATO" and "EU" and you're in neither.
>>514788411or maybe miscalculation was russia chimping out in 2014 - monkey wanted banan - and none of it would never happen?nobody killing russians right now no merceneries anywherenodoby cared or threatened russia before that (only russia has been threatening everybody else for years)and a million of your countrymen would still be alive, dancing kalinka, drinking vodka and beating their wivesyou got nobody to blame, NOBODY, but russians themselves for all the suffering they are going through
>>514806800Uhm not really chud, you posted multiple maps with Russia in it, but zero maps with "Ukrainian Republic"
>>514806864Are you having a stroke? You must be since you're talking utter nonsense. Call an ambulance for yourself.
>>514806560Since you really like maps
>>514805417>Even here you defend outright murder of people based on their choice of language with missilesI did not defend it at all, I merely called it the lesser evil compared to hundreds of thousands dead, every year. On this entire planet, 99.99% of people will agree with that.
>>514806637Oh that's easy. You seem to be confusing the concepts of a state and a region. The map shows regions, not states. Most of right bank of Dnieper was a part of Russia at the time of the map's creation. There's plenty of regions that aren't states. Urals, Sahara, Midwest, Alps, Outback etc.
>>514806930and here we see a shill deflecting if he cant answerI accept your concession
>>514807061>Oh that's easy. You seem to be confusing the concepts of a state and a region.If Okraina is a region, then what is Vkraina?
>>514807145>if a border is a border then what is a border
>>514807038>99.99% people on the planet will agree that ethnic genocide is better than trying to stop it just because the ethnic genocide is killing people slowly.You do realize that being a fucking sociopath is not in any way something majority of people on earth are? You need to get help.Compare 6,000,000 killed in Holocaust vs casualties of militaries trying to stop it. It definitely does sound like european drivel to just allow it to continue. For everyone else it was a net benefit since Nazi Germany was destroyed.
>>514807014bulgaria and hungaria are so confusing
>>514807118Actually I answered you directly - you're talking nonsense that has zero connection to reality, thus you seem like you need medical help.
>>514806694>it was illegal, but we let them go, after they buckbroke us is six days Nice. What happened to selfdetermination, or does that matter when it's convinient to you?
>>514807236I wonder why there is two different "borders" right next to each other, they both called consistently different, and have consistent geographic placement, with Vkraine being always near Kyiv, and Okraina somewhere in Ryazan.More mental gymnastics, please.
>>514785752Won't that Nazi flag get you 10 years in prison Vlad?
>>514784830Moscow will return to Kievan Rus Viking Rule under a 1776 flag.
>>514807361Yeah but which one of them is "Ukrainian Republic"?
>>514807263>You do realize that being a fucking sociopath is not in any way something majority of people on earth are? You need to get help.20 deaths being preferable to 200.000 has nothing to with sociopathy. do you know what that word means?
>>514807548"Explain to me how a dozen deaths at dinner are worse than ten thousand deaths in battle"- Lord Tywin Lannister
>>514784830He doesn't and that's the actual reason for his "humanitarian intervention" in Ukraine.
>>514807548It is always preferable because 20 deaths are all innocents slain by monsters, and 200,000 are all soldiers trying to hold off the aggressor. And these 200,000 have killed more than their fair share of insane hohols going after them.It's also disingenuous to pretend that even according to your infographic, the total death count is waaaay above 20.
>>514807346you deflect like a little bitch because you know its all trueI remember all those russian faces on tv in 2014 "vsjo naša"well russhits arent laughing any more
>>514807361Wait till you find out about another ookraina in the Balkans. Clearly the explanation is not that countries can have different borders and borders change over time but all 3 countries were the real ookraine aka Border. But yeah, I don't see the "republic" next to either so they're clearly a judeomasonic nonsense.Here's another one for your collection. Brb.
>>514807548Haha holy shit I just realized>It is better to let muslim migrants rape and kill 20 people now and then, than to risk deaths of 200,000 cops expelling them from the countryYou're just a fucking cuckold AHAHAHAHA! Fucking Europeans I can't even.
>>514807702The death count was 25 in 2021. In 2022, Vladimir Putin ordered 1000s of armored vehicles and soldiers over an internationally recognized border, and the death count was over 100.000. It is clearly obvious that Vladimirs decisions have massively worsened human suffering in this region.
>>514807733Unlike your retarded ass we seldom laugh at others misfortune. Not to worry, we'll end Ukraine's suffering soon.
>>514807831Congratulations, you have completely lost your mind.
>>514807885Conflict intensified because Ukrainian aggressors were given a pushback, it is inevitable effect of trying to destroy a neonazi state. No idea why you try to pretend that 100,000 dead were not the price for eliminating a huge number of neonazis attacking them.
>>514785056Russia wouldn't be hostile if the West didn't stage a bloody coup in Kiev in the first place.If you want a friendly Russia then you must not treat them like they were incapable of retaliating.It's actually insane how the West managed to lose the goodwill from Russia and turn them into enemies.
>>514807980Hey it's not me that accepts his solemn sacrifice of being in the way of some rabid paki. Boo hoo too many people will die while expelling them, Austria should just let them behead 20 people now and then.
>>514808047russia was hostile before when it invaded Georgia.
Look man I dont know about what's going on but if a man wants to blow up because its funny that's his god given right brother, might makes right after all
War is God
>>514787906Translation:>easily observable facts about reality make me an angry little zigger spic boy
>>514808120Uhm. Georgia murdered Russian peacekeepers in Ossetia for no reason, so Russia retaliated, disarmed rogue Georgian government that US armed with Bushmaster M4 rifles and Humvees, and then went home.Literally fuck around and find out, and Russia even had the courtesy of just going home after kicking Georgian asses for their insolence.
>>514808277Moscow regime invaded KPR and BPR to genocide Kurskian and Belgorodian people. They even sent nork mercenaries as genocide squdas.
>>514785068you're a funny guy
>>514808368It's always so strange to remember that it is now legally required for a Ukrainian to be a paranoid schizophrenic. To think that USAID books could do such things to a man...
>>514784830>Why would we want a east-aligned, heavily armed, hostile nation on our door-step?Better ask that question, nigger.
>>514808100We went from discussing the morality of 20 vs 20k deaths deaths (essentially the trolley disussion/problem) to your specific fantasies of targeted violence happening to/in the country I live in. Making this connection requires a very troubled mind.
>>514808541Everyone knew a civil war will start there eventually, since Moscow regime completely banned Ukrainian language there.
>>514807885Thats because Trump made ukraine stop shelling Donbas retard.20 days after Biden took office they started shelling again, 5 days before the invasion.
>>5148086090% of your child chopping off his penis, since such ideas are not implanted into future unwitting mercenaries.
>>514808672Kurskian and Belgorodian people just want to live independently without Moscow regime oppression, but instead of allowing them to vote, jew Shelomov ordered to bomb them every day for this.
>>514808617I am troubled by how easily Austrians excuse criminal genocidal murder by claiming that stopping the murders will cause casualties among the rescue force.And then I remembered that you refuse to kick out all the pakis because they only behead a few people now and then, and deporting them would mean that some cops get killed, so you just enjoy your multiculturalism.And it all fell into place.
>>514808811Belgorod is historical Ukrainian land where 90% of population still speaks Ukrainian.
>>514807014Why is there a "Russia" on this map of 1200s? Where are the 2/3 O/U/Vkraines?Clearly this is a doctored fake. Must be the work of these Jews I keep hearing about.
>>514785752>So Russians start military operation based on nonsense ?yes, they're an idiotic people.
Who is bombing BPR and KPR every day?If it's Ukraine, why won't Moscow regime declare war? Maybe because they know it's a civil war against Belgorodians and Kurskians?
>>514808811You have literally conjured this violent image out of your own mind, and are now elaborating on the details, debating a ghost. Would you like me to give you my insights on the situation of violent foreigners in Austria, would you like to discuss the topic 20 vs 20k deaths, or would you like to further describe violence happening to me or my surroundings?
>>514809089I have a clear idea of your beliefs since the outcome of neonazis killing people indiscriminately with no pushback is better in your mind that taking the fight back to very same neo-nazis but suffering casualties in the process.
>>514786519voting is fake especially in ukraine the most corrupt country on earth dipshit liar but ill point out the obvious but not well known? ukraine has been fought over for thousand years and is ancient khazaria!
>>514809536>I have a clear idea of your beliefs since the outcome of neonazis killing people indiscriminately with no pushback is better in your mind that taking the fight back to very same neo-nazis but suffering casualties in the process.Anon, I understand a noble cause, but the scale of suffering has long surpassed that of the original crime a thousand times over. To take your comparison to pakis in austria, it would be nuking pakistan because of 20 rapes comitted. No, that wouldnt be justified, that would be Insane even if not a single Austrian died for it.
>>514785056yup, one of the first things kremlin kikes did post sovshit collapse is to split off a part of moldova and would've most likely done similar things to other former soviets, hadn't the chechen mudslimes tied them down for several years
>>514810047Stop painting these 100,000 casualties as some civilians suffering. These are soldiers that undertook a duty to protect their people, and they killed many many many many neonazis in the process. They weren't victimized.
Well duh.Putin thought he'd steamroll Ukraine. He'd been told that by his top brass.That's the problem when you have an autocracy, everyone just gives Mr Big the answer that they want. No one's going to say 'well actually our military is a lot worse than anyone thinks, even the US doesn't realize how much of a basketcase we are these days, so if we invade Ukraine we'll be struggling with it more than 3 years from now!'.Putin will go down in history as a complete retard who oversaw the end of Russia as we know it.
>>514809969You have to be 18 to post here.
>>514810331>They weren't victimized.These men are fucking brave warriors and many of them true patriots and actual heros. This does not mean that their deaths were necessary nor that the value of their lifes is less.
>>514810354thrilled to see what future russia(s) will look like lolhttps://files.catbox.moe/9uo06p.mp4
>>514784830Its bretty sad how they pay for the warmongering that goes on here, countries outside of the ones in conflict.
>>514810492No one reduced the value of their lives. I keep pointing out that they died in the process of ending the threat forever.Without them, people would keep dying without end, it would just take longer.
Serbians and Russians talking is like listening to dogs bark
The European political figures who met with Putin in Chinese summit are all left wingBob Carr [Australian Labor Party], H. Clark [New Zealand Labour Party], Yukio Hatoyama [Democratic Party of Japan], Rouseff [Democratic Labour Party], Papandreou [Panhellenic Socialist Movement]. D'Alema [Democratic Party of the Left]. adrian nastase and viorica dancila [Social Democrats of Romania]Russia courts Africa, India, China, and anti-white Leftist Europeans Muh based and trad Russia, it’s a coincidence 20% of Israeli citizens speak Russian and that Putin upper echelon is heavily intertwined with Chabad Lubavitch**before some retard says bu-bu-but Jewkrain, I’m not pro NATO or Ukraine but pro-Russia sentiment is rife with American pro-ZOG retard right, so I’m fighting against ALL kikes for solely pro white policies and pro-white movement. ETHNIC White Nationalism, which Russia is extremely against obviously as Chechens, Siberians, Dagestanis, are ALL heavily courted over Slavic Russians.
>>514810795>Without them, people would keep dying without end, it would just take longer.I consider this highly doubtful, because the numbers kept going down. In 2025, there would probably have been less than 20 deaths, if we follow the trajectory. >they died in the process of ending the threat forever.I wish it would have been different, for what thats worth.
>>514810970wait till you see and hear the average russian heterosexual (extremely rare) mating ritualhttps://files.catbox.moe/qpk3v5.mp4children involved in this one wtfhttps://files.catbox.moe/76l69g.mp4
>>514784830Then why is he invading ukraine? The farther west he goes the closer he gets to hostile heavily armed western countries.
>>514810795I just realized that there is very likely more than 20 innocents in Russia dying every year from criminal activity. Wouldnt it have been better to use 200.000 soldiers to combat this criminal activity, also assuming most of them would survive this?
>>514811227No wonder cucktin puts 0 value on their life and sends them to death
>>514811227>heterosexual (extremely rare) mating ritual>cheese involvedwhat the fuck did you just post man. you wanted this to be deleted?
>>514811126>I consider this highly doubtful, because the numbers kept going down. In 2025, there would probably have been less than 20 deaths, if we follow the trajectory.Ukraine would want to resolve that issue forever since lack of territorial integrity is one of cornerstone issues that would prevent them from joining EU or NATO.>>514811467Well that's where we can say that its highly suspect that rockets and artillery landing on your town are somehow killing less people than just>crimedespite UN observers registering almost daily launches.
>>514811647No cheese involved HIVan
>>514811647calm down HIVan, they're insulting the kid because her whore of a mother won't put out
>>514785752>So Russians start military operation based on nonsense ?Why is that so surprising? The American excuse to invade Iraq was the Saudi royal family attacking them from Afghanistan, and an American mailing anthrax letters to politicicans. Their excuse for entering the Vietnam War was that the communists had shot BACK. The Nazi excuse to invade Poland was a series of false flag terror attacks that *Nazi Germany* had carried out. Their excuse to break the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and invade the Soviet Union was to pretend the Soviets were going to invade them.The real reason for the invasion was that Russians are buck broken and think that Russians can ONLY have shithole countries. Russians thought of Ukrainians as a type of Russian. And Ukraine was trying to join the EU.And the thing is, forty million Russians living in what would have been a bigger poorer Poland would be proof that Russians don't HAVE to have shithole governance. Which would, in turn, lead to moscowmaidan and Putin and Kadyrov having to flee with only as much novichok as they can fit in a Ryanair carryon.
>>514803902>in 2019 they forbid usage of Russian language.>NationalismI would have thought Russians were against such globalist things as using foreign languages.
>>514812358Half of Russia consists of 'Republics' and 'Autonomous Areas' with their own official language. Imagine if some US states were also ethnic enclaves. Main language is Russian but there's effort to preserve the ethnic culture of all nations who joined up with the federation.
>>514810354Take European Russia and tack it onto the EU as a vassal state. Take Siberia and turn it into a natural resource colony comanaged by US and China. Don't give a fuck about the Caucuses, let the mudslimes have their little terrorist states down there and be a constant menace to Israel.
>>514788411If you want really good insight into the fall of the USSR watch Adam Curtis's documentary on it called TramuaZone. It is uploaded in full on YouTube. It is pretty interesting to see how much of our present problems rhyme with the social and economic unrest during the fall of the USSR.
