>Russia just did a first test flight with new plane made out of domestic partsI want to point out that no other country makes planes from fully domestic parts, even China
>>514870953now i see why your soldiers stole all those washing machines from ukraine
NGL, thats a great looking smaller sized jet, good for Russia , I wish our country had that kind of realistic foresight.
>>514871494>first post>u-word jokethread ruined
>>514870953You should hire Boeing to do your quality control.
>>514870953>I want to point out that no other country makes planes from fully domestic parts, even ChinaFuselage, landing gear, motors - sure, but every component? Every chip, wire, valve, display? I seriously doubt it. A small jet like this would cost >$200M (A320 is about $100M)I am ex Airbus and you are talking out of your arse.
>>514870953Well done Russia.
>>514870953I like it and hope its successful.
>>514873088Don't be salty.
>>514870953Even the electronics and the surface mount components and chips I doubt it. There really are no countries that can be fully self-reliant in these globohomo times.
>>51487095313 axis c n c ?please detail your industrial processes itt
>>514873282Saltiest bastard you ever met
>>514870953I kneel If Russia continues on this path it will be the most prosperous country in the future
>>514873509That won't make your issues go away.
How did they domesticate wild plane parts????
>>514873598>your issues..which would be, pray tell
>>514871525lol, my thoughts exactly, it is a nice plane
>>514873626Carefully over many generations of specially bred planes.
>>514870953kinda small, innit? is that economically feasible?
>>514873969Fuel is basically free in Russia
>>514870953idk good for them i guess? and what are their military jets made of? not domestic?
Nice actually!
>>514874025>Fuel is basically free in RussiaIt'd have to be - those look like turbojet engines (archaic)
>>514874025Not kerosene afaik. And that's not the sole factor, you also need to field, maintain, control, pilot, staff more jets, have more active skies, airfields etc.
it sucks but at least it doesn't have a DEI pilot
>>514871525>>514873838Bombardier out of canada is effectively domestic production. If we needed to make a plane exclusively in North America we more than could and basically already do. >what is the C-5, C-17, F-22s
>>514873291>>514873088Yes everything at home. You keep forgetting Russia makes military jets, the real challenge came from new engine. Funny part is-before sanctions there was only a % that should be domestic but not anymore. Basically everything right is being pumped into manufacturing and we have a shortage of factory workers
>>514874549Half of your military parts and resources are from china, look it up. Pentagon has tons of Chinese contractors.
Not sure I trust it to fly on
>>514874817So is yours lol. Stop talking out of your ass.
>>514870953Will you finally stop begging Africa for Airbus then?
>>514874669>Yes everything at homeOh it's possible - but would be impossibly uneconomic. Military aircraft are very expensive to make and are typically made in small batches. Add to this the costs of designing a new aircraft - which can't be recouped by sales to anywhere in the west.
>>514870953then why does everybody use boeing and airbus? i have never seen a russian airliner.
>>514873282His faggot country got rich on cheap Russian minerals and hydrocarbons. Now that Russia has emancipated from European slavery, the fat years are over and he actually has to work for his living. No more week-long drug and homosex orgies for him. I can understand his frustration. I bet he has never worked in his life before.
>>514870953Its small.
>>514870953>I want to point out that no other country makes planes from fully domestic parts, even Chinayes, because other countries aren't despotic failing shitholes that are sanctioned to fuck for their brutality and bullshit.also, i'd avoid getting on that peice of shit if i were you as it's likely poorly engineered, shoddily constructed, and totally fucking doomed - actually scratch that, take a trip as soon as possible you fucking fag.
>>514875377>the fat years are over and he actually has to work for his livingThey say Germans don't have a sense of humour, lol.I used to work at Airbus - but now in the oil industry (more money) just 3 months a year - I'm not greedy.Why so angry? Also - not French, but I choose to live there as life in South of France doesn't suck xXx
>>514874817haha no. >fucking vatnik cant into supply chains
>>514874348You spelled staff more jeets wrong
>>514874215Those are very obviously turbofans, and I doubt if the Ivans even have turbojets in production anyplace other than maybe natgas pumps. What part of airbus did you work in? The commissary?
>>514876607https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviadvigatel_PD-14
>>514876607>TurbofansWhat's wrong with that?
>>514870953You're more than welcome to fly on it, Dmitri.Between drunken Russian pilots and high-quality Russian parts, I look forward to seeing the crash.
>>514873088It's russian avionics (from the 1950s), old as fuck hydraulic lines, some random Aliexpress battery and a 20 year old Garmin GPS to navigate.Here's your new plane, it's the same as the An-158 but we made the design more western
>>514870953Smuggled components
>>514870953How they used to make planes 60 years ago?
>>514873088It's not that hard, labor is cheaper there, Russia builds chips they have the technology and know how to do it, they have built planes before you know that right, the can easily built a fully domestic airplane it just wont be as good as a modern airbus or ...
>>514871494FPBP
>>514870953did they use painter's tape to shut the door?
>>514871494Well shit man if they don't use their washing machines why not recycle them.Gawd.
>>514871680Lol. Russians and Mexican dabbing on Gringolem Intellectual Property will never not be funny.Pic related.
>>514877094>Russia builds chipsRussia doesn't have the ability to build a sewage system, you expect me to believe a bunch of slavs can build an assembly line with cleanroom conditions to manufacture chips?
>>514874549>what is the C-5, C-17, F-22swe source foreign components for these planes basically AS9100D was built to source foreign parts for US aerospace industry, also, you named HORRIBLE aircraft, Beechcraft are better
>>514877052Does anybody really need more?An 158 was based. Takes you from point A to point B without killing you like a fucking Boeing
>>514877167Only during winter.
>>514870953Go die in Ukraine slavshit
Honestly?As long as I don't have to fly with it, I'm simply not interested.Airbus has full order books for 10 years and has to send customers away. Competition stimulates business.Good luck.
>>514870953Looks ok.
>>514873109Brit flag kys cuck
>>514870953>new plane made out of domestic partsEven chips in avionics?
>>514875843Then you're French
Btw. there is no aircraft manufacturer in the world that can finance itself - they are all strategically subsidized. (The still unresolved dispute between airbus/EU and boing/USA)Building airplanes is not difficult, being able to afford them in the long term is the problem why there are so few.
>>514870953Soooooo its a Lada?
Looks like a valid military target to me.
>>514877052>picrelPlane Switzerland can produce right now.
>>514877094>Russia builds chips they have the technology and know how to do itOld ass chips that is. Although, planes don't need anything that crazy, especially a project like this.
>>514871494kek
>>514870953We don't need this. We need Boeing.
>>514877939>Then you're FrenchAw fuck - it was bound to happen eventually.
>>514878196>especially a project like thisMakes sense. Restarting an industry to 100% source domestically you'd go back to the last project like that and build up from there.
>>514870953What is this plane called
>>514878367>We need Boeing.You want the Alan Mulally era Boeing not the one now.
>>514873088because it's counterproductive is unnecessary
>>514877414Ribbed for your pleasure
>>514875832>yes, because other countries aren't despotic failing shitholes that are sanctioned to fuck for their brutality and bullshit.this is possibly the faggiest shit I've read here all week. Day of the rake can't come soon enough
>>514878116They cant produce those tires, there is not oil in Switzerland.
>>514870953Good for you.I really hope this dark time makes Russia stronger as the world really needs a counter to the bully that is america.
>>514870953I fucking hate you pseudo-communist bastards, but that is... an unexpected plus to your lot.
>>514870953Did you think they bought trees from other countries to build their planes originally or something?
>>514874669Not everything, some valuable electronics are Chinese, Japanese and Korean.The main problem was materials. Yet we managed to produce domestic carbon wings.The engine was good enough, but the pause allowed to make it better.The problem is to force domestic companies to buy it. Since its new it costs over 200 mln. Leasing Boeing costs 50.
>>514876515underrated
>>514870953ladies and gentlemen it's your washing machine speaking
>>514871680mccuck when faggots
>>514870953All your planes were fully domestic before 1991. Well, at least partial recovery is better than nothing, I guess.
>>514877414This is totally not Donald, this is obviously Pascual the duck
>>514870953good for them.Imagine living in a country that cannot even make a plane.Holy Cringe.
>>514878367>you want to be dependent on your direct adversary for high end industrial capacity and technologywhy?
>>514870953There are only three companies in the world with the complete tech tree to build a modern turbofan: GE, Pratt & Whitney, and Rolls Royce. Everyone else is coping and borrowing parts from them. Turbofans are the exclusive domain of the white manThis also proves France isn't white btw
>>514878706MC31 and it first flew like 4 years ago. OP is a dick. They stopped production because of the war.
>>514881363Fuck off retard>>514876689
>>514874669and your military jets use imported parts, like chips. thats why you build so few of them. you just bypass sanctions by bringing the parts in through kyrgyzstan. everyone knows this.
no certification by EU and US means the aircraft will be a flying coffin
>>514881497>>514876689Paper engine. Russian boasting never ends up going anywhere. If this was real China would be snapping them up for their domestic air industry
>>514881363kekgood post
>>514871680>u-wordYou faggots are so thin skinned I'm surprised the rain hasn't washed it all off yet.
>>514871525Yea it looks like a better Embrarer 175
Nice, congratulations.It's time to give boeing a run for their money, make it happen.
>>514871494doesn't look safe. also, it's not a brag that you are forced to produce your own planes due to being a pariah. pussy ass russians won't even use their airforce in ukraine because of how badly it will get fucked up. now they are bragging about not even being able to paint a passenger plane. utterly pathetic.and ziggers do not have an autarky and never will. if russians started producing chips, the middle managers would steal them and sell them on the black market.
>>514870953Is that aluminum? Is it the 1960s again?Can't make carbon fiber or other composites?
>>514881363>This also proves France isn't white btwExsqueeze me?
>>514881723Fuck off roach
>>514882029The wings are carbon fiber, retard
>>514882029Carbon fiber on wings, hull is from titan.
>>514870953Anon since USA controls the world ocean and trade, everything on world market is efffectively a “domestic part” for them even if it wasn’t made in North America. Borders are a social construct. Countries CANT refuse to sell shit to the USA. THEY CAN AND DO refuse t selling thins to Russia so you have to resort to this poor autarchy. Shit, I can make a paper airplane in my house. Made completely out of domestic parts. How good is it that’s the question.>>514879942This shit was made with American aluminum I m serious look it upBut gj on your cast iron steam airplane.
>>514881406https://youtu.be/5Rjex4_6YKM?si=7C6yYJkauxthvNEv?
It's just a waste of money if it isn't economically competitive.
>>514871494
>>514882319>titanTitanium! Fuck me that's overkill - soooo expensive. There's no way this jet could ever be sold at a profit (if true)
>>514870953Good on you. Hope you'll get to ride in one and you'll be happy
by 2100 russia will be a superpower
>>514877453Nobody cares what you believe, window licker. Stop raping the chicken.
>>514879425>EU flag>homosex homosex homosexLike clockwork.
>>514878196Seems like all planes these days even tiny ones use Garmin electronics. I wonder if Russia sources that shit somehow or just uses analog gauges.
Isn't that Yakovlev MC-21?Here's a fun fact. That plane was in fact produced with all russian parts after the ukraine war.Another fun fact. It was much and I mean MUCH heavier than when it was produced with imported parts.Which in turn made it burn much more fuel and fly shorter distances.It also made russian companies not want to buy it.So here's your wonderful russian technology lmao
>>514882358OhThats a 20 year old plane>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Superjet_100I thought this thread was about the MC21 which first flew 5 years ago.
>>514882357You are now aware that your faggot country can do nothing to prevent China from achieving naval supremacy before the end of the next decade. Trump couldn't even defeat Canada.
>>514883119i truly wonder if puccians would want to fly with this utter shit of a plane. puccian shit never looks safe.
>>514882558Expensive for you. Russia is 10 years ahead of China and 50 years ahead of Europe in metallurgy. Can France even make steel in this day and age?
>>514878116Switzerland can produce anything they want I'd take a Swiss over an American any day and id take the dumbest Swiss over 1 million russians
>>514883225>if puccians would want to flyI don't think they have much choice. Every now and then you do hear on the news about another crashed tupolev.I wouldn't step on a plane in russia if they paid me for it.
>>514883269>Russia is 10 years ahead of China and 50 years ahead of Europe in metallurgy.If russia is so great why are you living in Germany Andrei?
3-2 seating configuration. Means less than 100 passengers.Typical Boeing 7373 Airbus A320 is about 150.This along with less than optimal engines means this would be quite expensive to operate anywhere where kerosene is not dirt cheap.
>>514883315Swiss watches are made in China with components from Russia and North Korea.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGDAJmuIecs
I like how sanctions helped Russia in a wayI hope Russia makes it (and these Indian workers are not actually migrants)
>>514870953>I want to point out that no other country makes planes from fully domestic parts,>>514880334>Not everything,everysinglefuckingtime
>>514883172China is going to starve in any major conflict. Too many people. Dont assume because their economy is big now it won’t crumble during a war. 1.3 billion people is a LIABILITY. They’re jmporting food and oil even during peacetime
>>514879860Synthetic oil is a thing since the 1930s Pidarast Pizdovich Nahuyovich
>>514883448They plan to operate in Russia so it's alrightAnd they will improve with time
>>514873598>>51487537716:00 shift change
>>514870953>ORKkek, simulation theory confirmed
>>514871946Why pay the middleman when we can get it directly from India?
One more correction. Despite sanctions some parts were still imported from companies like Safran, Honeywell and Rolls Royce through Turkey, China and Kyrgistan.
>>514883505Here is what I foundDoesn't seem that bad compared to many other countries
>>514870953Russians are really good at building planes. I like their designs too
>>514870953Muricans did....and probably will do again because tariffs makes outsourcing not profitable and Trump wants than everything doing at USA for security reason.
>>514883478The EU consolidated Putin's power for years when it stole the properties of the Russian liberal mafia oligarchs. Due to the EU sanctions they could no longer launder their black money in London, they had to reinvest it in Russia and for the first time since the 1990's obey the Russian laws. The Russian central bank had to keep the Russian economy from overheating for several years, because the EU sanctions had injected so much capital into the Russia.
>>514883474You cant fool me nigger ive been to switzerland and their manhole covering are installed with better precision than any russian "high tech. There's more technology in and around a Swiss village than in Moscow1000 CHF watches wasnt what i had in mind when I said what I said
>>514883573Schizo
>>514883785now consider population
>>514883948>this guy
>>514883948The sanctions helped Russia improve its domestic production
>>514883996seas, konsch ma leicht min glimmstängle azünda?
>>514883950>niggerGo tell your trainer he failed, Pablo. Your credit limit has been decreased by $5. No food for your kids today.
>>514883785This picture only accounts actual food. However, modern agriculture is impossible without fertilizers(which take natural gas to make) and oil(to run machines). When you’re eating fried rice you’re eating a cup of oil that went through metamorphosis. Want to add some fried pork belly on top? One more sip of oil. Without oil productive capacity of land is SEVERELY limited. There are countries that are self sufficient, like USA and Russia and couple others with low density. Asia, the whole of Asia(not counting Siberia obviously) is SO FUCKED. Any disruption of supply chains and billions will die without single shot fired. Now imagine what happens if you have to wage war at the same time.
>>514882558As I said, the price is 200 mln now. It must be state subsidized to force companies to buy it until it becomes cheaper.The whole program cost about 20 bln.
>>514870953Doesn't look Russian enough
>>514870953What the US should have been doing since the late 1980s. Globalization was a horrible idea.
>>514874549Hilarious how all those years putting billions into the C-Series it ends up getting sold to the fucking Europeans. Our leaders are trash. That plane is going to make 200x what the project cost was.
>>514884116I think in China they just reuse motor oil for frying food, they are truly 100 years ahead of us and I should probably let that sink in
>>514884048>hurr I'm financially illiterate
>>514884098Hühnerficker
>>514884304Motor oil can’t be digested. You shit it out unchanged to be collected from the gutters to use for frying again
>>514870953This is really good for Russia. In the future every western plane will have been jeeted at every turn from blueprints to the final check before flight so there's a good chance that Russian planes will eventually earn a reputation for being safe and reliable
>>514873088>I am ex Airbus and you are talking out of your arse.My dad works at Nintendo and he's basically confirmed your full of shit and would be make you look so retarded in a job interview you'd be kicked out of the office instantly.
>>514878116SOVL
>>514877453russia does build and design microchips, sorry if this uspets you.>>514878196yeah, for that kind of stuff reliability>cutting edge, it just wont be as good as western stuff.
>>514870953VGH... AVTARKYthis is what true national socialism is about
>>514881406>They stopped production because of the war.LOLIs not war, comrade, is Special Military Operation. Report to gulag immediately!
>>514870953propaganda, RT po russky
>>514873088They're the most sanctioned country in the world now, why is it so difficult for you to grasp that they're building everything themselves?They already produce everything themselves for their military hardware, doing it for a civilian jet isn't a stretch at all.Are libtards just incapable of understanding what domestic manufacturing is?
>>514883448I count 19 rows there so that would be 95 passengers
>>514884635nigger based on mockbatajik-armenia market
>>514871525Agreed, I am impressed.
>>514884093A good part of their arms manufacturing sector is state-owned and so could maintain generous overcapacities in peace times. The ability to run one shift a day for five days a week in peace time and on the same machines three shifts a day for 7 days a week in war time. Western governments don't have enough power to keep industries in state-ownership, their primitive liberal system underfunds any industrial asset that cannot generate immediate profits to the point of bankruptcy and collapse.
>>514883573Good eye Fritz!
>>514882558Titanium is much cheaper in Russia, the west doesn't have any good titanium reserves or mines. They've built entire submarines out of titanium.
>>514884160>The whole program cost about 20 bln.Dollars or rubels ?
>>514885118shop po russky, noone needs your dollars.
>>514870953Russia also makes some of the best engines in the world, for planes and spacecraft. Best thing to happen to Russian aerospace was the SMO. I flew on one of the new Sukhois on S7 a few months ago, was very pleasant.The one sector you should have built up decades ago but did not is semi. Your semi chips still suck dick. Good for tractors and factory machinery, that's it.
>>514883996Confirmed Hahahahahahhaha
>>514873088Airbus is designed in Moscow.
>>514885236Their chips are decent enough for missile control systems and military drones. The electronics they cannot produce themselves, they can buy in China and North Korea.
>>514885104I wasn't only thinking about military stuffThe sanctions probably saved lada, forced them to produce good cheese and wine locally instead of importing it, and many American companies left, allowing local ones to grow
>>514885402single state owned bank, imagine you money in new mosque.
>>514885104once again the nazi's were rightboth russia and china are now approaching national socialist economic ideals, while the jew-libtard world order is cracking under shitpiles of jeets and 3rd worlders in a desperate move to shore up consumption and money printing while simultaneously nuking their own countries from the bottom up.Even ultracapitalist Trump sees the writing on the wall and is trying to move the US away from mass immigration and outsourced manufacturing.It's not just a multipolar world now, the untouchable jewish economic system is a steaming heap of bullshit and has been for decades going. Nothing but musical chairs and money games shoring up the stock market and dumping billions into the hands of the already obscenely rich with zero actual GDP growth. Frankly the US today has worse productive output than it did 90 years ago. That's how badly the jewish economic system will mangle your country.
>>514874215russian engine design paradigm has always been different. Instead of rail, the USSR went with airfields. In lieu of engine efficiency, designs focused on being able to land on garbage gravel-laden airfields and shit without failing.Even when I lived in the PRC, you would know when Russian planes were flying overhead from the noise. Western planes are designed for efficiency, not robustness (except for old things like A-10s). ffs even like 80% of F-35s are grounded currently for maintenance.
>>514884435>My dad works at Nintendo blah blah blahOK then, whatever you say.
>>514884951sounds about right.
>>514884385>>514885399this poster is not german
Good job, Russian engineers. I bet making a plane is really hard. But you know what? I bet if someone sat all the parts and screws and stuff on a big sheet I could put it together by myself. I'm probably the best mechanical engineer in the world
>>514885236Don't think they have the money for it. China invested something like 300 billion USD into spinning up their semiconductors. It is obscenely expensive to get into it and Russia's in the middle of a war while also being sanctioned by 1/4th to 1/2 the planet.I imagine they'll start serious semiconductor investment after the SMO ends, and probably with a leg up on it thanks to the progress China's made in the mean time.
>>514870953Good for them.
>>514885399Yes, but discussion about being what they source internally. Even the Dendy game system was made in Chinese Taipei at the time.
>>514885118>Titanium is much cheaper in RussiaIt's hard to work with too.I think it might have a higher than normal amount of titanium, but traditional aluminium is much more likely for fuselage.
>>514885402It took a while until their cheese got good. But you're right, they would never have made that leap without the sanctions.Foreign investors drain capital out of the country, unless you have effective capital controls like China does. Once your country is sufficiently developed, you should kick them out and fatten your domestic capitalists and capital managers instead. Unlike the foreigners, they're in reach and not entirely disloyal.
>>514885711Well, they've made entire submarines out of Titanium, it's not like they don't have the know-how nor understanding of using it in aircraft manufacturing. Apparently they welded parts of their subs together in inert-gas sealed rooms.
>>514885325>1 engineering center out of 9>didnt participate in most models>"it was designed in moscow puccia stronk"so fucking tiring
>>514885325>Airbus is designed in Moscow.Shit, and they have all them design offices in Toulouse.
>>514885841you lost to the USSR, so best bite your tongue
>>514884115Is this what you think, negerjavael?!?Hahahahha let me show you my back yard and you tell me how I need to post on 4 chinz for €
>>514885906Check between your legs for your reward.
>>514885520Russia has one thing in abundance: Energy. Efficiency is not so important when you can always add a bigger fuel tank. Russian heavy trucks have their fuel consumption measured in litres per kilometer. But their power is unmatched.
>>514885978I'm not circumsized, as I'm not a kike like most of the "american" i.e. vpn posters here
>>514886073>The prevalence of circumcision among males in the US varies by age group, but an older estimate from 2005-2010 placed the overall rate at around 80% for males aged 14–59Heilige Maria Mutter Gottes
>>514885520>ffs even like 80% of F-35s are grounded currently for maintenance.thats absolute bullshit. a lot of tards love to look at 2015 or covid numbers for f-35s. deployed ones have an 81% mission availability number which is better than any legacy fighter in the USAF. stateside/peacetime they're about 56%. israel reported a 90% mission capable rate in their war since they are prioritized for spare parts (kek)https://www.businessinsider.com/what-f-35-jet-makers-need-tackle-cost-readiness-concerns-2025-2SU-35 has a mission capable rate between 35%-50%, SU-27 is 30%. not sure we can find an accurate one for the su-57 since there are only like 14 of them. russian planes (especially engines) are notoriously unreliable needing frequent engine swaps.
>>514885170Dollars of course.The problem that this really new jet from the company (its Yak) than never built passenger planes before.We are going to build intercontinental liner but on much more solid base. Ilyushin 214.Shit tons of minds and technology were lost in 90th.Only military tech were preserved.
>>514885991this poster is not german, not only that, but his post is doubly an insult to germany because he casually forgets basic engineering principles which no german would.
>>514886145many americans love kikes. all that "muh judeo-christian!!" it is sad, and retarded but not all americans are kikes or kike worshippers.
>>514874669You have a shortage of factory workers because you killed them on on your illegal 3 day invasion and occupation of Ukraine, you shit heads conveniently omit that all the time.Never believe a ruZZian ever. They lie in-between their lies so much they don't even know when they're telling the truth. The country that cried wolf and their minions who let it happen, and actually like being curb-stomped by their government, Ukraine and NATO countries.
>>514886163Good luck with that, going up against the big 2.
>>514886292I thought its like 50%. What the fuck.what was your SAT score
>>514885624>>514886242How is the weather in Eglin, NAFO tranny?
>>514885402>saved LadaFor the Christ sake, this bastards lost market to chinks even with all lobbys in gov.Absolutely hellish company with horrible service and quality.And no, its not about bad workers, because Russian made BMW's and Chevrolet were best of all. This company is just shit and nothing can help it.
>>514886479i do it for free, anon. its a human thing, you wouldnt understand. its really simple, too.
>>514886479How is the weather in St Pidorsburg?
>>514886535You mean sucking dicks?
>>514886301its funny reading about the cities in the east suffering so many infrastructure problems because they sent all the men off to die and lose limbs kek
>>514886619Ruskie confirmed, homosexuality over 100%
514886619>randomly mentions dicksuckingsomething on your mind?
>>514871494lmfao
Ukraine will shoot down all this planes anyway.
>>514874669The entire world had this shortage since the 2010's, because the Chinese demand grew so fast that no workforce could keep up with it. Except Portugal. They somehow managed to maintain mass unemployment despite the world market boom. Guess why the industrial capitalists are pushing for mass immigration everywhere. It's all about workforce shortages.
>>514886390you're such a faggot larper, everything you have said in this thread shows you know nothing about aerospace, not even casually. uac/sukhoi/irk/yak were on course for like 10-15% of the global commercial aero market until the pandemic and sanctions.the USSR/Russia has always been a major player in aerospace (and until spacex was #1 for space engines, maybe still more reliable). no airbus engineer would ever be so denigrating toward russian aerospace.I know engineers at CFM and they would never say anything close to the bullshit you are larping as.
>>514870953Whats that green stuff on the door? Ducktape? 2-components-Glue?>planes from fully domestic partsNope my dude.Chips alone:? All oat all absolut necessary components (their materials) comes from Africa and China, party South America too.And that was only the chips within the wide field of hardware.The chips itself in a whole are not Russian. The "software" layers are another story. Not Russian.But I appreciate every country doing as much as possible with stuff from the own country, with own resources AND personel.
>>514881871When we will be done with hohols skin would be a luxury for most of them.
Er, theres high speed rail from St. Petersburg to Moscow. Basically every Russian city of note also has a functional train station. Amerishart bias:> We need passenger air travel.
>>5148864212390/2400, first try. thought I should retake for the perfect but meh lol. got a perfect 1600/1600 on my GRE tho for grad school.
how come the uhgtrannies can't make planes or posts where they don't seethe about russia ?
>>514886390Ha, funny joke. Even if the plane will be perfect it won't be certified because... Because I don't like you, that's why. We have almost ideal liner but its was banned from Europe airports because of noise. Google Il 86.Its for domestic use.
>>514886838There are no workforce shortages, there is no such thing as a workforce shortage. Every western country has out of control levels of unemployment for their native population with more unemployed than available jobs, meanwhile the countries are all still importing millions of jeets et al.This is not what a 'workforce shortage' looks like, or else wages would be skyrocketing. This is what a workfroce surplus looks like and they just tell you it's a shortage so you don't question why they're importing a million workers when there's so many unemployed and a massive surplus of workers.You shouldn't be falling for such simple tricks. They are overtly lying to you. Stop trusting and believing your government and industrialists. All they want is bottom dollar labor, and you, your country, and people can all go to shit and fuck yourselves so these shitheels can get it. Having 99% of the cookies wasn't enough, they want the 1% of cookie you're barely holding onto as well and you are enabling that when you actually believe their horseshit about labor shortages.
>>514886301Are you here straight from reddit or what?
>>514886918>you're such a faggot larperI left aerospace 11 years ago - but I worked on most stuff - Airbus, Boeing, metal, composites, helicopters, satellites.. Believe me or not I don't care.
>>514870953> Americans care about airplanes, right?“Of course. They are all cosmopolitan spoiled faggots with no sense of place.”> This will be a good post then.
>>514887256LOL HAHAHAHA SUREmaybe you were a janitor or coffee fetch errandboy for them?
>>514886929Moon rising
>>514887022they just now (in 2024) completed a HIGHWAY between moscow and st petersburg lmao.imagine not having a highway connecting your 2 most important cities
>>514887374More moon
>>514887146>Its for domestic use.That's why modern jets have larger turbofan motors - they are so much quieter and efficient.It will never get certified in the west. I don't hate you - I don't care enough for that. XXX
>>514887396I’m imagining having a rail connection with no roads in between and it sounds great. It needs one more thing:> No blacks allowed on train.
> tfw when we all learn that freedom of movement was a bad idea
>>514887310>>514885524That's me sitting on top of the 1st test piece of carbon fibre fuselage for A350 - do a reverse image search. You'll maybe find 1 copy and and I basically say the same thing.I've forgotten more about aircraft than you'll ever know.
>>514870953Yeah but were they made with Diversity?Only America can produce planes with this much Diversity , Equity and Inclusion.
>>514886301>illegal 3 day invasionthere's a legal version of it?
>>514887978It's only legal if we do it
>>514887773so a janitor that took a picture in a plant? WOW. and you dont even know rudimentary shit, so keep larping
>>514888429ok
Israel is a very lucky country.
>>514886535>>514886696swarthoids having a meltie every time russia is mentioned is sort of patheticI know you have to compensate for your brown eyes and earn a salary but do something else with your time
>>514884635>They already produce everything themselves for their military hardwareNot true for Iskander or any of the good stuff that requires chips. China does not supply them either, as China cannot manufacture them at scale, let alone surplus for export.
>>514884116The picture doesn't account for food. China produces more grains than it's population needs + all the other things they farm in China. In a war they would have more than enough to feed everyone. China is a net importer which is what the image is trying to convey but that's a meme, they are entirely self sufficient for their agriculture and merely import for the same reason everyone else does, namely variety, out of season goods and increased meat consumption.You need 2000 calories a day to survive, grains have about 350 per 100 grams, that's 200 kilograms of grains a year to survive or one ton feeds 5 people. China had a grains harvest (rice, wheat, etc) of 700 million tonnes, that's enough rice for 3.5 billion people.
>>514888808If you'd project a little harder you'd outshine the sun, worthless zigger with 35% mongol dnaAlso for everyone else, notice how they always call you darkie but never a liar You and jews are cut from the same shit infused cloth
>>514886486I was in rural Russia this summer and saw many modern ladas though
>>514889049You forgot a missile at the 3 gorges dam turns China into a swamp and cuts their industry and popularion by 50-80%Chinks hate this little trick
>>5148893263 gorges is a gravity dam, it won't break from a mere missile (though you could probably take out the generators with one). Attack on it is a meme, the nuclear response will wipe out as much if not more out of any attacker.
>>514874549Bombardier jets use Rockwell Collins avionics, Rolls Royce engines, etc. Bombardier CSeries (now A220) use Pratt & Whitney engines
>>514877453Mikron Group, Angstrem
>>514889502All dams (except maybe the dutch ones) are gravity dams but if you think a bunker buster won't slice right through their Chinese chinesium corncrete i have several bridges to sell you
>>514890188>All dams (except maybe the dutch ones) are gravity damsYes and all gravity dams are essentially missile proof because they are gravity dams
>>514875832Sour nigger faggot, go eat shit in a public bathroom.
>>514881976>it's not a brag that you are forced to produce your own planes due to being a pariahyeah it kinda is. your post has picrel vibes
>>514883505China is almost self-sufficient in the staple grains (rice and wheat)https://apps.fas.usda.gov/psdonline/app/index.html#/app/advQueryIt is self sufficient in fertilizers except K fertilizers, which Russia and Belarus happen to be major exporters of.https://gpca.org.ae/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/China-Fertilizer-Industry-Outlook.pdf (page 8)China is a country that gets most of its hydrogen (needed for the Haber-Bosch process) from coal rather than natural gas. China mines about 90% of its own coal.https://ptx-hub.org/factsheet-on-china-the-worlds-largest-hydrogen-producer-and-consumer/China produces about 1/4 of its oil needs, enough to run agricultural machinery and distribution systems. It has its own refineries.
>>514870953Hey I'm all for self-sufficiency. You go guys.
>>514890537You seem to forget the dam in ukraine that was destroyed in 2022 or 2023Or the German dam in 1945 destroyed by primitive explosives
>>514871494peak cope.
>>514888963You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>514889218>says the gypsy jeet ottoman rape baby
>>514887202I don't give a shit about commercial or political advertisement campaigns. Unlike most of you secluded internet clowns I talk to actual real people and work with actual real people on a daily basis. Ask the HR pea counters, ask the personnel providers ask anyone working with specialists. They're all scraping the bottom of the barrel. In my company we pay bonuses in the five digit range to anyone who can bring in an engineer. We are hiring factory workers, walmart tier retail drones and literal cleaners into accounting jobs, because they're native level speakers and the rest can be trained if they're willing to work and not antisocial cunts or otherwise retarded. This practice was unthinkable 20 years ago, when the unemployment rate was 12%. The shortage is real. The wages are rising. Unless you're living in a post-industrial mining town or something like that, of course. In that case, the only work migration you ever see is emigration to the nearby cities.
>>514889218>Moldovaian gypsy rapebaby sperging out on a fingolian zig mutt is peak yurofaggotry
>>514881976Rudsia absolutely terrifies you you faggot.
>>514891778LMAO
>>514891778Du-tw-n pula mea fraier bolnav mental care estiSa te fut in gat si pe tine si pe Nicisor dan
>>514886301The number of employed people in Russia is up since 2022 in absolute numbers, not just relative numbershttps://tradingeconomics.com/russia/employed-persons
>>514891124Kakhovka dam isn't a gravity dam, at least not in the sections it was destroyed. More over demolishing a gravity dam is obviously possible if you have land access. For explosive power it really doesn't matter if an explosive is "primitive" on that aspect explosives are all roughly equal. What counts is the amount and where you put it. If you have land access you can bring in truckloads and put it inside the structure to demolish it. A missile or bomb can't delivery sufficient amount of explosives to do that. A resent example is the mutt attack on Iran, regardless if you think it succeeded or not what is obvious at a glance is that the gravity structure (the mountain) is still there and not harmed in anyway.
>>514871494lmao
>>514877094Russia build nothing. All their shit is imported.
>>514884171There is like 1 shape for an airliner because they are all designed to fly at the same altitude range at the same speed to conserve fuel and carry the optimum number of people. Barring exotic flying wing designs and stuff.
>>514874215They look like PD-90 engines (bypass ratio 5.4). Future planes are supposed to be equipped with PD-14 engines (bypass ratio 8.5, which is still not really at the level of the state of the art)
>>514870953>fully domestic partssource: trust me comrade
>>514886838>>514891757For national economies that partake in international trade, there is no such thing as "lack of labor". There might be lack of specialist labor such as engineers, but there is never a lack of bodies. There is only a lack of labor willing to work at the wages you are willing to offer. If you get no takers, then you need to offer higher wages.Consider: how can a small country like Denmark function when their labor force is "only" 3.2 million people? Shouldn't their economy be crippled by a severe "lack of labor"?Also consider, why isn't Nigeria an economic superpower, since they have so many able bodies?
>>514891757Oh, you're one of the guys who should be hanging by a noose for hiring nothing but foreignersThere is no shortage, you just don't want to pay White people
>>514892366Russia manufactures the Il-76 airlifter domestically. There is no reason to think they cannot make a domestic airliner; the underlying technology is very similar. The only questions are how good the economics (fuel efficiency, etc) will be, how noisy it will be, and how fast they can produce them.
>>514891976The British destroyed a German dam with aircraft based bombs If it was possible in 1945 I suspect its gonna be possible today
>>514877578Well it works but those cockpits are as ergonomic/pilot friendly as a AN-2 as it didn't improve at all.>>514878116Pilatus begs to differ
>>514871494lol
>>514891757By the way, here's a helpful little graph, not that you'll understand it, but it explains why there is no such thing as a labor shortage.The reality is, you aren't paying enough and you aren't willing to pay enough.
>>514892843They could, if they could source all the component parts to make the systems they need. There is no SJ-100 that has 100% all russian parts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Superjet_100#Part-Russian_jet_with_Snecma-Saturn_engine_2
>>514870953>OP crushed by a moomin>>514871494FPBP
Russia has unlimited natural gas, precious metals, agricultural; land, rare earth minerals.Western retards, 'let's sanction Russia that will teach them'.
>>514881363Define "modern" turbofan, faggot.
>>514892951No german dams were destroyed in 1945. If you mean the dambuster raids you may notice that they didn't breach the big dam precisely because of it's large mass. You may also notice that even the smaller ones took multiple hits from 3 tons of explosives each.Not only is 3 gorges significantly larger than any of those but missiles don't even carry 3 tons of explosives. The one they used against Iran was dropped from a bomber and it barely had 2 tons of explosives in it. Your standard tomahawks only have a 450 kilogram warheads.
>fully domestic partsAt that point, it's just autism or pride.Making sure you CAN provide all parts is 1 thing.But it's always better to source different markets who might b abl to provide the same specs. for cheaper.
>>514893649Are you sure you're not a zigger?https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Chastise
>>514893926That's the dambuster raid that I just mentioned, it happened in 1943. Thanks for proving my point phone poster.
>>514886390>Good luck with that, going up against the big 2.The thing is, now almost any oil/resouece-producing country can decouple from the west, because Russia has working solutions to the worst sanctions possible (and don't forget state of the art Air Defense systems).
>>514893649Now to address your claim that the 3 gorges dam is impenetrable...The dam has several dams upstream (hundreds), most of them made in the 50s and 60s, all of them built out of earthen structures. Calculate how many grams of explosives is required to destroy these and overtake the summit of the 3 gorges dam
>>514870953Sanctions don't work against a country as big and diversified as Russia.What happened is that western companies lost their market share in Russia. And now they'll have more competition to deal with in general.Not sure why it's so hard to accept and make so many people cope and seethe.Sanctions work against smaller nations but not Russia/China/India. And that's that. Time to move on to a different strategy.Not saying your country isn't kind of a shithole, but you can make aircrafts by yourself. Congrats.>>514871494ngl turning a washing machine into a jet engine airplane is pretty impressive.
>>5148941743 gorges won't break even if it's overtaken so that's kinda moot point. It was designed with that scenario in mind. The upstream dams are also gravity dams so they are all equally invincible against missiles. Physics hasn't changed since 60's last time I checked.Now consider that the Chinese can simply drain the dams ahead of time and avoid any damage even nukes are used to destroy all of the dams.
>>514894174>Calculate how many grams of explosives is required to destroy these and overtake the summit of the 3 gorges damHow are you going to deliver it, into all the Bumfuckizhous in China at the same time?
>>514871494Good one
>>514893223They can, as the Il-76 shows, but it would not make economic sense to do so. Now they are forced to do so anyway because of sanctions.
>>514894311Let's learn about Dam overtopping:Dam overtopping is when water flows over the dam's crest because floodwaters have exceeded its designed capacity or spillway ability, causing severe erosion of the dam's embankment and often leading to dam failure and catastrophic downstream flooding. Causes include inadequate spillway design, blocked spillways, dam crest settlement, extreme floods, and sometimes strong waves. For embankment dams, erosion from overtopping is extremely difficult to stop once it begins, and a well-vegetated dam may only withstand limited overtopping if conditions are perfect. What causes overtopping?Extreme floods:When rainfall or runoff exceeds the dam's storage capacity and the spillways' capacity to release excess water, the water level rises until it spills over the dam's crest.
>>514894769Missiles, cruise and ballistic
>>514894940See>>5148943113 gorges isn't an earth dam that would erode from being overtopped. It's a concrete gravity dam and specifically designed to handle a flood that would overtop it.
>>514894993From where they would be launched?
>>514895054I want talking about the 3 gorges dam being earthen but the other hundreds of dams upstream I could look it up and show you how many hundreds of dams are in the catchment area of the 3 gorges dam but im my phone and changing tabs resets my text
>300 posts of screamings and squealings from NAFO turdslol. LMAO even
>>514895176From the south China sea, from Japan, from the air, from under the sea, you name it
>>514895231Again you keep moving the goalpost. Even if all the dams upstream would vanish instantly 3 gorges dam would not break because it's designed around being overtopped. But now you have introduced the idea that the upstreams dams would overtop, how would they overtop exactly? Where is the water coming from? Again missiles do not carry enough explosives to take out gravity dams. Chinese can and would empty out the dams in any case making the whole point moot.
>>514893409A simple yet important measure to look at is the bypass ratio. Generally, the higher it is, the better. There is no Russian turbofan currently in production that is at the highest level. The PD-35 seems like it will be, but it won't be ready until 2029 at the earliest.
>>514895301every single uhgnigger that is active in their thread replied to the unfunny "joke" too
>>514871494Lmao
>>514895360Number of dams on the Yangtze:There are more than 50,000 dams across the Yangtze River basin, with studies identifying around 43,600 to 50,000 reservoirs of various sizes built since 1950. These structures, ranging from small farm dams to very large facilities like the Three Gorges Dam, were constructed to provide water storage, flood control, hydroelectric power, and irrigation.It seems to me I was extremely conservative with my estimation of hundreds of dams
>>514895608Concession accepted I guess
>>514887396The highway that fully opened in 2024 (M11) is a second highway. There already was an old highway (M10).
>>514870953This baby is going to kill so many Russians
>>514895652Whatever makes you sleep at night. I argued in good faith and I haven't conceded anything, it's you randomly claiming victory I am convinced you're not Finnish BTW, they're too cold and not invested in this matter at all
>>514870953These bastards destroyed all their aviation industry to make american globalists richer by cutting to pieces all their Tupolev civil airlines jets, closing down all the production and buying Boeing's planes.Never trust Russians. They are treacherous bastards who even betray their own.
>>514871494Jews confiscated all our gold and made everyone hand over their pots and pans for the (((war effort))) in WWII.
>>514895811I categorically defeated your arguments as you backpedaled and moved the goalpost, then you made no further attempt to argue which I took as you conceding. If you have an argument feel free to present it.
>>514880656They are fully americanized and you dless people.
>>514880936See this.>>514895838
>>514892969>Pilatuswish i were a fucking multi millionaire
>>514871494>fully domestic partsCopies made on Western blueprints, as usual.>In 1946 the British government allowed Rolls-Royce to sell a number of Nene and Derwent V turbojet engines to the Soviet Union. Klimov OKB was given the task of "metrifying" the British designs, without the knowledge or permission of the West, as the VK-1 and RD-500.
>>514876761Nothing, the faggot above was trying to assert they were using 1950s tier turbojets.
>>514881363SNECMA has numerous turbofans. So does United Aircraft (Russians). English speaking turbofans are slightly better on most dimensions though. FWIIW they all descend from Rolls Royce jet engines.
>>514896072Nice Polish plane.
>>514883785Oh Jesus look at Japan. They're done for.
