Are there any steps Hitler could have taken differently that would have resulted in a military victory for him?
>>515190315Wiping the Anglos out at Dunkirk couldn't of hurt. Allying with Italy and Japan didn't do him any favors either. Italians couldn't fight for shit and FDR used pearl harbor as an excuse to get America involved. That almost certainly would've happened anyway though
>>515190315nuke moscow, unironically. Hindsight may be 20/20 but it's said that Uncle Addie had moral qualms about wiping cities off the map. He delayed retaliation against British cities for a few weeks authorizing retaliation bombings.
>>515190315ObviouslyHindsight is 20/20 you stupid butt fucking aids nigger
>>515190832I mean like, if he wasn't high on meth the whole time maybe he wouldn't have bungled it.
>>515190315Evacuate the germans that were being butchered in poland teritory(then poland territory)Not retake territory lost in ww1I think that would've postponed ww2 enough for germany to be to dangerous to be attacked
>>515190315Yes he could have won, in Case Blau if he didn't route all the armored divisions in rostov and created a traffic jam there is a high chance Paulus would have taken stalingrad in August as said by the soviet commander chuikov in stalingrad in his book. With stalingrad secured in early august i see no reason why germany couldn't reach astrakhan and cut off like 40% of the lend-lease coming through iran. There may be a collapse in the caucasian front and i think by early 1943 they would have taken the baku oil fields. With stalingrad secured early on i don't think the soviets will have success with operation uranus with germany having 4 months extra to secure their flanks. Now it's going to take probably around half a year to actually get the oil in Baku because the soviets were gonna blow it up. Maybe late 1943 germany actually gets the oil it needs and with this i think germany will actually motorize their logistics and any army group can do whatever manuever they want. I think it ends with a soviet defeat maybe in 1945 and there is no way allied landings take place.
>>515190315wait to nuke the ziggers
>germany to be to dangerous to not be attacked or declared war upon
>>515190315They should have wiped the British out at dunkirk they should have made a more honest attempt at allying with the soviets and not fighting a two front war they should have used their nukes hitler had the bomb first one of the nukes that was dropped in Japan was a captured German nuke. He also should have taken the Jet program more seriously and put those into combat. They should have produced and issued far more stg 44s since those were essentially the birth of the modern assault rifle. They should have not pursued peace as often as they did. They should have secured access to oil sooner. Some of the reprisals against civilians on the eastern front were a mistake that didn’t win hearts and minds. There was a lot of issues but like they say hindsight and all that shit.
Oh also it was a massive mistake to purge the party of the true socialists that made up the party. It was also a massive mistake to trust the conservative capitalist class that betrayed him and gave intelligence to the allies.
>>515190315In hindsight, not allying with japan.
Operation Barbarossa
No. His chimpout was doomed from the start.
I’ve thought about how Germany could have won from a legit academic perspective for years. The simple answer is that us Slavs are literal niggers and like literal niggers we happily enslave and sell out our own people. Hitler could have just bought large tracts of land in Eastern Europe from the Soviets and enslaved the people there without firing a single shot.
>>515191791This. The oilfields weren’t worth it. He coulda traded for oil instead
>>515191809well, he had way less numbers, and he proved that 1x1 German warriors were much stronger than any other kind, and he prevented Germany from ending up communist in entirety
>>515190315The UK, despite what the jewsmedia claims, was on the brink of surrender in 1940. The UK campaign came close to cutting off the country from food and fuel supplies - there was a few months reserves left. If the Germans and carried on and concentrated on taking out the British, Germany would have won for sure.Hitler acting in an evil way, lets be honest, led his people to destruction. However objectively speaking, Hitler should have won the war.
>>515190315I dont even fully understand what went wrong?It seems to me, that his loss happened very fast, like Russia decided to join and INSTANTLY he killed himself. like why? I thought he owned like half the world at that point.>t. didnt pay attention in school.
>>515191472All of that is bullshit except for the gun partImagine thinking using a bolt action rifle as the main service rifle in 1940 was a good idea
>>515191897>He coulda traded for oil insteadWith whom?
>>515191897He should have had a much better relationship with the soviets but it wasn’t necessary a mistake to invade somewhere for oil he just shouldn’t have invaded the soviets that shit really fucked him. Oil was a very real problem
>>515191958That post is as big a joke as the German navy I don’t think Germany has ever had the capability to even control their own rivers. Germans are worse in the water than literal Africans.
>>515192100The U boat war virtually stopped British trade at one point. The UK was then and more so now about the most vulnerable western countries to any disruption of food imports. It only grows about 60% of its requirements. Cut us off from imports and you would have mass starvation on a scale not even the Pajeets or Chinks have every seen
Tell me how Hitler lost please. Like im a baby
>>515192061The ussr you dummy. He signed a non agression treaty with Stalin in 1939 and if that peace had held, Stalin coulda double dipped between Germany and headed off the lend lease act in 41, which woulda handed North Africa, significant parts of the Middle East and a vast swathe of Eastern Europe to the Reich for next to nix
>>515192213>The U boat war virtually stopped British trade at one point.Russia has a more illustrious naval history than Germany.
>>515192003It’s all true and hitler had a real obsession with the mp 40. He overlooked rhe potential of the stg 44 and that bit him in the ass. Although logistically with the way they were initially fighting a lighting war I can see the appeal.
>>515192094Exactly. He was chasing energy and should’ve enlisted Stalin to push south east into Arabia and control, petrochemicals but took to much speed and wigged out
>>515192263>Tell me how Hitler lost please. Like im a babyYou’re in prison. There are 70 black/mexicans and 30 whites. You tell 20 of the whites to fuck off because they aren’t white enough. Of the 10 whites than remain to fight the 70 niggers 5 are retarded cripples like goebbels and himmler.
>>515192272The ussr already had its sights on invading europe. In fact, it had already began mobilizing toward the balkans. The non aggression treaty was always a temporary measure for both sides, with its main purpose to facilitate the dual invasion of poland.
>>515192274That isn't true.The Russians literally had more submarines at the start of WW2 than Germany.
>>515192411I thought hitler had millions of soldiers? So is the reason he lost because he just sent all his men to die? even tho i always hear how effective germans were at war? This doesnt make sense at all. Im sorry im retarded but you suck at explaining things.
>>515191809>t. retard take
>>515192433Crime of opportunity Germany was trannifying itself in the 1930s and shoving dildos up their ass before Hitler came along
>>515190315Not trusting Romanians to guard their flank at Stalingrad.
>>515192486They were fucked from the start like the south vs the north in the civil war in terms of manpower and industry. Not every war is Vietnam where the plucky underdog wins.
>>515192433Yea, dickhead, but both the ussr and Germany were over extended and needed energy to extend their reach and minimise their supply lines while fuelling production for the war machine. After Barbarossa Stalin obviously cracked the shits and authorised the Zerg rush eastern front shit. The breaking of the ribbintrop pact condemned Germany to defeat and the ussr to being poorfags, humblbegging the USA for gibs. If uncle adoplh got off the drugs and listened, we wouldn’t be looking at the world through its current shit smeared lens desu senpai
>>515192537I wouldn’t trust a Romanian to guard a bicycle, even with one of you fsggots guarding the guard
>>515190315Nukes. Instead of spending scarce resources developing shitty tanks and flavor-of-the-month weapons he should have put absolutely everything into fission research. It was Germans that found out nuclear fission provides net positive energy, back when even Einstein thought this was impossible.But then he did nothing with this, while that same German research paper made it to FDR's desk.Occupying the US or even Russia would have been impossible either way, but with nukes and V-2 rockets he could have forced everyone to the table.
>>515190315Didn't attack the soviet union, wait for them to invade Europe (they were planning to do it in late 1941)Then lead a united Europe against the communist jewish filth and kill all russians
>>515190315On retrospect id invade Americafirst because obviously the rest of europe was a bunch of niggers, i dont think he knew just how many inbreds and machines america had.
>>515192974>Occupying the US or even Russia would have been impossible either way,Why tho? I dont understand how Russia at least was so powerful against Germany when everyone talks about how Germany had people EVERYWHERE. In Antarctica and The poles. But its just "russia was strong" HOW?? Germany was the power house in ww2 i thought.
>>515193058Lend lease you stupid faggotJesus christ how retarded are you?
>>515193399>Lend leasewtf is a lend lease.OH so lend lease killed hitler and made him lose agarth and antarctica and all their secret projects.\it was lend lease guys.
>>515193710Ok. So that retarded
>>515190315This thread is full of memeflags and retards but I’ll give you the three things he needed to do.>the blitzkrieg should have immediately gone for England the instant Churchill was put in power. Churchill should have been assassinated by any means necessary. A D-day style blitz across the channel.>fast track turbine jet engine development in the 30s rather than delaying it to make more Bf109s>mass nuclear air war on the Soviets during the golden period of air supremacy at the beginning of the warThe Germans were too kind-hearted for their own good.
>>515191105Germany did take Stalingrad though. What defeated the 6th army was the soviet encirclement that cut supplies off to the 6th army. They ran out of ammo and surrendered. Stalingrad was a trap but also Germany needed it to keep forces from flanking Germany using the rails from Moscow. They fell into a lose, lose trap.
>>515192274Rusaia had and has the worst navy of all the major powersIn early 20th century the russian fleet was arrested by Britain en route to fight Japan (where they lost both of their fleets)
>>515192433The tell tale was that nobody eas punished for failing to detect barbarossa and the numbers of prisoners taken right on the border (no reason to be there)
Ryan Faulk examined this exact thinghttps://www.bitchute.com/video/k7GZzu7XHs4He believes that if the nazis had simply cut off the Soviet's oil, then they would have fallen apart sooner, and that would have forced a negotiated settlement. Doing this would have been as simple as taking a slightly different negotiating stance towards Turkey.
>>515190315Yes Germany should've went all in on capturing the British at Dunkirk. I mean full on hog wild blitzkrieg to prevent them from escaping. It was the only port they didn't occupy and the British army ran for it.After defeating the British army Rommel would have his way with North Africa winning the war. This would all be happening before the invasion of Russia. Defeating Britain means no American invasion of Europe so an easy win against the USSR then of course America gets split in 2 after Germany and Japan invade it.
>>515192537The romanian army had no anti tank and no heavy guns It was all on Germany Moreover, despite these odds the romanians nearly stopped operation YourAnus
>>515194279Mistake 1) Allowing the jewish scientists to flee to America. Massive error that resulted in the US getting the bomb. Mistake 2) Not capturing as many British as possible at Dunkirk. If he wanted to secure peace to Britain, then capturing, and subsequently releasing the army at Dunkirk would have been a far more powerful message than simply "letting them go". Actually their release should have been made conditional on some type of peace agreement. Mistake 3) Actually not the Nazis mistake, but Japan should have attacked Russia from the East. Instead they attacked the US, what a massive error.Mistake 4) Not securing oil resources, and not cutting off Russia's oil. They didn't yet understand the importance of oil and therefore the importance of the Middle East. It was a new meta, but they could have figured it out.
>>515194058Hitler's mistake was assuming the British people would side with Germany on their own merit. Back then without hindsight his racism blinded him to the fact that the British empire and its people did not share the same mindset as Hitler did. Hitler thought the British would honorably fight and not flee and if they lost let themselves be captured and indoctrinated into a national socialist world view.
>>515190562>Wiping the Anglos out at Dunkirk couldn't of hurt.World's smartest Nazi
>>515194555Is that why he relentlessly bombed them?
>>5151903151) Wasnt be a retarded kraut-nigger2) Have read Nietshce from whom he took his uebermensch-in-black cringe who`ve FUCKING HATED KRAUT-NIGGERS3) Vodka > piss making limonade aka beer
He shouldn't have sided with the industrialists and capitalists. National Socialism died in 1934.
>>515190315being a communist
>>515190315wait a little for the nukes to be finished
>>515194470The jewish scientists who fled to the usa already stole the schematics or plagiarized theories and ideas learned in Germany. It would be hard to kill them in the early 30s without Germany getting boycotted on the world stage thus ruining Germany sooner. No matter what info got out of Germany before WW2 broke out and jews were scheming on how to make a bomb. The Manhattan project was bigger than German's V2 project in terms of scale and cost. Hitler thought the British would stand and fight and by the time the Germans noticed they were fleeing it was too late to stop them. Hitler was consolidating his forces for a big fight but instead the British just dropped everything and ran. Japan could not invade the soviet union because it was bogged down in China and facing invasion from American forces.Germany tried to cut off Russia's oil yet failed case blue after losing the 6th army at stalingrad. After Stalingrad they could never go on the offensive again.
>>515194697He a national-commmunist. All soviet shit, but only for krauts.
>>515194616More bombs in tonnage were dropped on Dresden than the Germans did to london for the entire duration of the war. The battle of Britain was a meme compared to the later fighting in the war. I understand your point though. Why did Hitler bomb London? Because he failed to destroy the British air force so an invasion of Britain could begin. The germans did nighttime attacks that only lost 1% of planes. It was designed to get at the British government and kill them. The British used this as propaganda against Germany to get the British people into a war frenzy.
>>515194273They couldn't invade Baku without securing Stalingrad first. And before Stalingrad they lost the battle of Moscow.You can't cut off your enemies oil when they still control all their major railroads and industrial hubs.
>>515194917>The Manhattan project was bigger than German's V2 project in terms of scale and cost.It was called the Manthattan project because it involved taking jewish scientists from Manhattan, most of which had fled Germany, and using them to create the bomb. If those scientists remained in Germany it would have been a different story. >Japan could not invade the soviet union because it was bogged down in ChinaThey could have attacked and threatened invasion. They didn't need to go all in on the peasantlands of China. Even the looming threat of an attack would cause the soviets to divide their forces. Reinforcements from the east are what turned the tide in Stalingrad afterall.>Germany tried to cut off Russia's oil They should have done so through the middle east. That ryan faulk video posted earlier explains it
>>515195143National socialism =/= communism Communism is internationalist aka Jewish National - nationalist Eat a dick internationalist nigger
>>515194111>Stalingrad was a traplol
>>515190562You got it all wrong. Germany was starved for allies. That's why the Germans showed respect for anglos and Americans who were Aryan. The idea was to destroy the occupying jewish governments of Britain and America to free the Aryan people residing in those countries. This is the basic premise of national socialism. Destroy the jews power and free the people in said countries. >>515195371>They should have done so through the middle east. That ryan faulk video posted earlier explains itNot possible as the British controlled Suez. It all snowballed against Germany when they failed to defeat the British army at dunkirk. Defeating the British army at Dunkirk means operation sea lion was not necessary. Then Germany could focus all attacks to north Africa. This means no defeat for Rommel. This means no British army invasion of Greece. This means no needed invasion of Stalingrad. It's all because early on in the game Germany failed to capture the British army using Blitzkrieg that they lost the war. This is why Germany spent so much money building V weapons or vengeance weapons because the British are to blame for everything going wrong. Not the Russians, not the Americans. It's the British.
>>515194917>Hitler thought the British would stand and fight and by the time the Germans noticed they were fleeing it was too late to stop them. Hitler was consolidating his forces for a big fight but instead the British just dropped everything and ran.Why would an outnumbered expeditionary force fight to the death for a country that had already surrendered? The Ardennes breach was to the south of the BEF.
>>515190315Early days, kill Churchill
>>515195592Yup. The soviets lured the Germans into Stalingrad using millions of fodder until an encirclement and counter offensive could be made. They knew the Germans had to attack so Stalin just sent in mass waves while building up his real army to surround and kill them.
>>515195753You sound like quite the trap expert Do you have any personal experience with this matter?
>>515190315Should have tried to keep the peace with the soviets alive as long as possible and put all effort into producing nukes. Then nuke London and nuke Moscow. Win. Would have been a race against time, tho. Not sure if it would really have worked out.
>>515195627Because in WW1 the British stood and fought in that same area for 4 years. That was Hitler's mindset. He made a lapse of judgement on British character that would adapt to counting Blitzkrieg tactics and flee. Of course the British did make covering attacks for their fleeing forces and it's not so black and white. But in hindsight Germany was far too timid and misplayed. Like i said in another post. Hitler should've allowed his Generals to go hog wild instead of holding them back as the Furher. On a tangent this is also why many Germans in the traditional army did not like Hitler. They blame him for losing the war because his authority prevented them from winning battles.
>>515195891War to the soviets was like a chess game. War to the Germans was more humanitarian minded. The Germans were not allowed to fight dishonorably like the soviets did. Raping and pillaging. But that's the trade off. The German army were not fodder but real people. The soviets treated people as animals.
>>515195499They both called themselfs "socialistic". One international, the other national.Toy are cygan.208gk
>>515196102Churchill himself went to France to convince the French to keep fighting but they didn't want to. You are a month off in the timeline of events that took place.>>515195962Unlikely the Nazis spent more on the v2 than the allies did the Nuke
>>515196268You are cygan*FUCK THE CAPTHA JEW
>>515190315Yes - just do not ally with USSR.Wait a little longer till USRR attacks again someone, ally with Poland against USSR and use Japan alliance to attack USSR from behind. It would end up with exterminating all commies. And noone would come to tha aid of USSR because everyone was scared shitless that USSR will make commie revolution in their country (and it was why Hitler got into power in the first place - but as a fucking zionist asset, he allied with USSR).Any anti commie and antisemite would do it. But Hitler was zionist first and foremost. So he had to ally with jews, not only commie jews but also zionist jews (he cooperated with world zionist organization).Instead you have what we have - a world dominated by jews. Say thank you Hitler.
>>515196286>Churchill himself went to France to convince the French to keep fighting but they didn't want to. You are a month off in the timeline of events that took place.Churchill was just wanting to use the French as a stop gap against Germany for British imperial ambitions. Of course the French knew this and accepted friendship to Germany instead of fighting to the death. The British even destroyed French ships to prevent them from falling into the hands of the axis. They killed thousands of French sailors. They also fired on French trying to escape the Germans at Dunkirk.
The avatar fulfilled his purpose.
Personally I think not enacting Operation Sea lion was the first mistake. They let a former world empire operate with near impunity on its flank while they went after what Hitler described in Mein Kampf as his primary target (Russia and Judeo Bolshevism). Leaving enemies on the western flank of Europe to continue to exist even in a demoralized state was incredibly foolish because it gave Churchill and the English government time to rope the US further and further into the war by gaining sympathy, supplies, and intelligence support.The biggest mistake of them all was not Hitler's fault but was Guderian and one of his other top generals (I can't remember who). Hitler wanted to go south for the Caucasus immediately in 1941 during Barbarossa but several of their forces were diverted without Hitlers knowledge for the attack on Moscow. His top staff thought victory against the Soviet Union was only possible by a drive on the capital much like it occurred in France. This may have ended up working but only by mere happenstance seeing as Stalin was adamant in not fleeing the city,and the Germans made it as far as twelve miles (some say seven) out from Moscow city center. Had the diversion of forces for the drive on Moscow worked in bringing their numbers up to sufficient levels to take the capital, Stalin would have gotten captured and the war might have been over because of the power vacuum left by his absence. Hitler knew he needed the oil in the Caucasus. He was a vicious racist but he wasn't stupid.
>>515196464You can cope all you want with your alt history . The fact is Von Rundstedt called the halt, not Hitler. Goering said the Luftwaffe would destoy the bef so hitler trusted his call and went ahead with the halt, then they failed.
He should've taken over Iceland, that way he would've surrounded the UK before decimating them.
>>515196217Why didnt the germans just bomb the soviet army
>>515190315He was a military retard (4+ fronts, "allies" that bit off more than they could chew). He surrounded himself in yes men after a while. In party fighting and splintering. His higher rank yes men start lying about prognosis. They didn't consolidate before pushing again, so a loyal population spread too thin.I mean, to me, he tried to do a nappy, but failed harder. Dunno why we don't all still hate the french, most recent attempt to conquer europe?
>>515196974What in the fuck was the point of turkey as an ally? To distract the british?
>>515196696It's not revisionist to say the German generals knew they were not supposed to act without authority from Hitler. I am saying they blamed the dictatorship later on for this scheming to assassinate Hitler as Germany started to lose the war. It's a battle of military tradition against Hitler's revolutionary ideals. Goering was wrong about a lot. He was all bravado honestly.>>515196936They did relentlessly. In the beginning of the invasion of the soviet union the soviets were losing 900k troops a month. It was only until the great losses at Moscow and Stalingrad did the soviet army begin their great counter offensives.
>>515192411Correction.>You are in prison. There are 70nigger/beaners and 30 (((whites))). You are in a concentration camp.Don't ask me how the niggers got there, I don't fucking know.Remember, anon. Arbeit macht frei.
should’ve waited to invade the soviets until they were closer to a nuke. then nuke the fuck out of moscow as a show of force to the rest of the allies.
>>515197052>japanAdolph look at these millions of chinese people we have to massacre for like 5 years and shit yo theyre gonna march on berlin then tokyo once they have manufactories.
>>515197183Germany ran out of time to nuke anyone. By the time the Germans had the material for nukes they were already occupied. They had to hand over the uranium and v2 rockets to the Americans and were allowed to live in exchange for joining NATO. Basically the SS became NATO and the German army was disbanded.
>>515196974WW2 was just a continuation of WW1. Germany faced the same forces in WW1 as they did in WW2 apart from Japan and Italy who changed sides. Germany would win WW2 easily if not for the British empires war mongering. Which ironically they lost their empire after WW2. Mainly because Churchill was a jew and was lying and using the British empire for jewish global ambitions.
>>515196268And I explained the difference byt your alcohol and homosexuality addled brain read it but dont understand (a cognitive problem)Don't @ me, im not going to engage with under 85 iq morons
>>515190562>DunkirkHe should have followed the boats and invaded England.
>>515196286That would have been the perfect opportunity to assassinate him, fuck man. At least now I know where I’m going if I ever find a time machine.
>>515190315Not attacking Russia. Ideally, allying with them instead.
>>515191962>I dont even fully understand what went wrong?lol Another ADOLF MIDWIT thread!What is it about Jewish Scam you twits find so difficult?
>>515198906>Be Britain>War monger against Germany >Be Germany>Make a peace offer to Britain that they will retain their empire>Fight Germany and destroy their empire>Logic? None. It only makes sense if you understand Churchill just wanted to do what was wrong for white people. That is get Germany and Britain to fight each other so the jews can profit.
>>515199011Allying Russia is a misnomer when the Russians were enslaved by the soviets. Of course most of the Russian peasants were pro German yet could not stand up to the soviet red army.
>>515199165you think he banged all those chicks or what
>>515199165Those are league of German girls not jews.
