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Why did they commit suicide?

>some presidents were corrupt russian puppets and stole millions
>let's lose half of our fucking population to war and emigraiton

Makes zero sense. They could still be a nation numbering 40 million people and get all the cheap gas and trade they could possibly want.
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Their top diplomat flee Ukraine like a sinking ship few days ago
Zero coverage from western sources btw

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmytro_Kuleba#:~:text=On%20the%208th%20of%20September,a%20thief%20in%20the%20night%22.
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>>515191125
Its just a big country that got in hands of small people. And they sold it for immediate profit.
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>>515191125
Being part of Russia is suicide, look at Russia's decaying Demographics, that is what their Pro-Russian President wanted for their country.

If Cheap Gas is all you need to be happy why is Russia a decaying shithole?
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>>515191346
USA lives next to Russia
China lives next to Russia
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>>515191495
So instead of gradual decline they chose quick suicide. I guess you could say its more painless this way.
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>>515191125
>Why did they commit suicide?
It turns out letting jews rule your country is bad for your health. Who would have guessed.
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>>515191125
>they
it was taken over by cia.
but ukranians sold their soul for cheap
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>>515191125
Tribalism. Hohols have convinced themselves that they are le pure slavic masterrace and that "ruZZians" are basically the Amerimutt meme but with mongols instead of niggers and that they must be exterminated. Their religion is Ukrainism and they must put their lives on the line to exterminate the enemy tribes (which isn't limited to Russians, as we've seen in WWI and WWII).
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>>515191495
>a decaying shithole?
4th world's economy meme flag
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>>515191125
>Why did they commit suicide?
they belived burger propaganda and thought that with western support they would easily beat russia
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ukaine has defeated the world land power by itself. to be russian is embarrassment
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>>515191622
Fucking leafs owns a lot of land that used to belong to indians and eskimo. GTFO niggers.
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>>515191495
>that post
>that flag
Fuck you Jew.
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>>515191821
>defeated
lmao.
zelensky said the other day that if Russia does not take 100% of ukraine than it means ukrain won.

you pathetic niggers never stop to amaze with your mindless devotion to goy slop propaganda you repeat.
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>>515191495
>look at Russia's decaying Demographics
it's pretty bad but at worst on par with the west and better than ukraine
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>>515191898
kek
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>>515191789
Lol, imagine believing this
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>>515191898
russian talking about goy slop propaganda. you are the land of the jew, your country is jew paradise. you have the most jew billionaires in the world, you're the cheese pizza capital of the world, you can pick up a russian teen on the street for pennies. jew paradise. there is nothing more brainwashed than a russian
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>>515191125
They weren't a real country anyway.
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>>515192038
lol, I know Frenchmen are arrogant, but take a look at your own fucking economy.
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>>515192050
> saying brainwashed lies
> and claiming I am the brainwashed one.

my facts could be checked out because they are true. yours can't because they are made up.
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>>515191898
how are you still so arrogant after your insane blunder with your neighbor? where's your fleet of tanks? what happened to your black sea fleet? why did you mass retreat through Belarus? It's a shame the west didn't arm Ukraine enough pre war, your entire drunken faggots army would've been swiped away completely in 2022
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>>515192050
>you are the land of the jew, your country is jew paradise
>says the burger
sensible chuckle
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>>515192143
they aren't, everything a russian says is a lie. your society is built on lying and getting away with it and you fool no one except yourself. i will laugh when china slaughters you
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>>515191125
>Makes zero sense.
Then it's probably a lie.
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>>515192161
if russia was winning you wouldn't need to post on vpns all the time in disgrace
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>>515191935
most of Europe is worse off than Russia
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>>515191622
desu, ukraine belong more to russia than the parts of russia that belonged to chine. so does poland
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>>515192149
how are you still so arrogant knowing the state ukraine and it's army is right now?

how do you niggers cope these days?
just bluntly lying to yourselves?
amplifying your own bullshit that you yourselves come up with?

if so why are you surprised nobody but you believe this?
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>>515192223
russia? more like churka
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>>515192275
your summer copefensive was defeated, no matter the state of ukraine russia is worse. you can't even defeat a country that you border, you're the weakest joke country in the world. the only thing you have are nukes your jew spies stole anyway. big joke country that america could topple in a week
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>>515191789
>4th world's economy
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>>515191125
>suicide
Irony.
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>>515191823
Remember the USSR?
Sure you do.
Remember how we disintegrated it?
Sure you do.

Pic related is your very, very, very near future. Pidors must be confined to a Ghetto in Moskal.
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>>515192218
nice seethe but shouldn't you be in holocaust class right now?
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>>515192050
Amerimutt talking about jew paradise. You are the land of the jew, your country is jew paradise. you have the most jews in the world, you're the cheese pizza capital of the world, you can pick up an American teen at Epstein's island for free. Jew paradise. there is nothing more brainwashed than an Amerimutt.
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>>515192407
>Geography lessons get 10% harder for children around the world
Worth it
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>>515192149
>insane blunder with your neighbor?
Ukraine proved to be suicidally stupid, Russia didn't expect that. They did an admirable job of readjusting their plans.
>where's your fleet of tanks?
Russia's tanks are not being used because the way the war works right now doesn't favor large armored units. They've got plenty left and are building more at a pretty decent pace.
>what happened to your black sea fleet?
It's still there. They lost a few ships but it's not crippled or anything.
>why did you mass retreat through Belarus?
Because Ukraine was agreeing to the deal and everyone was popping the corks on the champagne. Then Ukraine backed out right after Russia withdrew.
>It's a shame the west didn't arm Ukraine enough pre war,
Then the Russians would have invaded earlier when the Ukrainians were even less prepared.
>your entire drunken faggots army would've been swiped away completely in 2022
There is no amount of arms that would have allowed that to happen. Ukraine's problems during the 2022 counteroffensives were caused by their inability to sustain their offensive tempo, not due to a lack of arms, and they could not have absorbed more arms at that point anyway.
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>>515192407
>Remember how we disintegrated it?
nope, it collapsed because central planning is a terrible way to manage things and of all countries germoney had the least to do with it creaking
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>>515191125
Russia is the one that committed suicide, they literally had a coup.
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>>515192521
Kek. Get a load of this cope. Very organic
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year 4 of special operation
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>>515192544
I'd say that East Germany was a major part of why it failed. They were the most fanatical believers in central planning and without them the rest of the bloc might have liberalized a bit more.
>>515192585
You're a shill and you know you can't make intelligent arguments against what I said, so you are trying to do damage control by pretending what I said was ridiculous without providing any reasons, since those would be easily debunked.
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>>515192592
Year 13 of 2 week ATO and taking back Crimea.
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>>515191125
The only winners after this war are those corporations which get the rights to exploit Ukraine's mineral and gas reserves
and
The jeets who will swarm the country in their millions.
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>>515191789
Like after 3rd world?
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>>515192483
russian npc is malfunctioning, can only repeat what it's guilty of
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>>515191125
>get all the cheap gas
They where also stealing gas that was in transit towards Europe.
Like not that bad position at all.
>>515191234
pic related kek
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>>515192564
Uh anon, you might want to look at how Zelensky's predecessor was put in power.
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They may have fooled their own people but they do not make their own decisions
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>>515192721
>You're a shill and you know you can't make intelligent arguments against what I said
Kek. Some bare facts for the consideration of anons:
>Russia stuck a few miles away from territory already defacto controlled by proxies at beginning of SMO
>Over one million vatniggers dead or wounded
>Black Sea fleet in hiding - routinely attacked in 'home' ports, flagship sunk
>Russia's strategic bomber fleet decimated. Only nation to ever lose AWACS plane in combat
>NATO bigger than before the war
>Russia's pre war economic architecture in ruins. Pivoting towards China to compensate
>Only allies dwindling number of shitskin gulag nations. Closest ally Best Korea after abandoning Iran and Syrian regimes due to lack of ability to help
Special Needs Shitshow
>>515192777
Checked and disregarded (memeflag)
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>>515193055
>w-we're totally winning and russia le lost
imagine still beliving that in 2025
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>>515193187
Imagine the 3 days to Kiev lasting over 3 years. Tell me, what would you have said to an anonymous that told you that was how it was going to go in February 2022?
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>>515191125
>a robber breaks in through the front door and shoots house owner
>/pol/: why did he commit suicide?
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>>515193264
I would say nah, they'll be on the border of Poland in a month and honestly that would be better for the whole world.
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>>515193264
>Imagine the 3 days to Kiev
that's a pretty stale cope
>Tell me, what would you have said to an anonymous that told you that was how it was going to go in February 2022?
i wouldn't belive ukarinians would choose national suicide but here we are
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>>515193264
Warlets always talk trash about the performance of those who actually fight. If you tried invading Ukraine you would have run out of ammo in 3 days lmao.
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>>515193365
>they'll be on the Polish border in a week
Do you know what? I Would have said the same. I don't agree that would have been better, though. Russian cope is the best cope and has been three and a half years of tremendous entertainment.
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>>515191125
Russia couldn't win politically because it has nothing to offer to any countries in its sphere of influence. When Ukraine wanted to join the EU and thus stop being a shithole, monke invaded Crimea because that's the only way he can persuade anyone. Now he is sending millions of financially struggling Russians to die brutally painful deaths by live drone dismembering just so Ukraine suffers somewhat before it inevitably joins NATO and the EU. That's how the Russians think and live and they don't even deny it.
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>>515191346
>it wasn't us jews
>it was the Russians goyim
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>>515193424
Are you implying Russia was planning on entering a 4 years long war with no end in sight, causing NATO expansion and ramp up on weapons spending? Is that Monke's 1e10D chess?
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>>515193424
>ukarinians chose national suicide
I didn't know much about Ukraine before this Russian clusterfuck aside from football. I reckon, though, that if they weren't a proper country before the Special Needs Shitshow, they are now. Forged in blood and fire and forever looking westward
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>>515193055
I would like to note that you did nothing to address any of the points I made, and are instead deflecting into repeating Ukrainian propaganda.
>Russia stuck a few miles away from territory already defacto controlled by proxies at beginning of SMO
One of Russia's war aims is demilitarizing Ukraine. Letting Ukraine come to them while they level everything with artillery and slowly advance is a deliberate strategic choice to accomplish this war aim, since it preserves Russian manpower and they are not in any rush.
>Over one million vatniggers dead or wounded
This is Ukrainian propaganda and is laughably false. The only people who seriously parrot this nonsense are shills.
>Black Sea fleet in hiding - routinely attacked in 'home' ports, flagship sunk
What on earth do you expect the Russian Black Sea fleet to do? Sally forth and engage the Ukrainian navy? Ukraine doesn't have a navy.
>Russia's strategic bomber fleet decimated.
A few planes were destroyed, but it's not a major setback for the Russian strategic bomber fleet.
>Only nation to ever lose AWACS plane in combat
Also the only nation with AEW&C planes to have ever faced an opponent that can actually fight back.
>NATO bigger than before the war
NATO is just a way for the US to manage its vassals, taking a few vassals who weren't nominally part of the alliance and officially adding them is just a bureaucratic reshuffling and in no way changes the balance of power.
>Russia's pre war economic architecture in ruins. Pivoting towards China to compensate
Their economy is doing fine.
>Closest ally Best Korea
Best Korea has demonstrated to be an ally that is very much worth having. Nobody else can provide weapons and munitions on the scale they can.
>abandoning Iran
Russia didn't abandon Iran, they offered them a mutual defense treaty before Israel attacked them and Iran declined, Iran has since purchased S-400s and Sukhoi jets, although both will take about a year before their crews are trained and ready.
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>>515193516
>I don't agree that would have been better
My position is EU came to Russia, Ukraine was their sphere of influence or what was left of it, it's country where they speak russian, orthodox church, cyrillic, there's nothing European about it.
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>>515192149
Taci ma in pula mea de oligofren
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>>515193661
Fucking lol
Priviet, comrade. From what American oblast are you giving us this communications?
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>>515192754
You're own propaganda said you could be in Berlin in 3 days if you wanted.
Cope and seethe zigger, your military is a joke.
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>>515193661
Bro don't waste time on this cockhole, he's literally copy pasting this text for a week here already.
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>>515191125
It's called living next to fucking Russia.
They will just loot you on a regular basis and install anything they want to run your country as their forward operating base.

You cannot be neutral when you live next to a civ playing for domination victory.
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>>515193842
I think they rely on people getting sick of debunking their shit. It's how astroturf works. I'm going to bed though, it's late over here.
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>>515193649
>Are you implying Russia was planning on entering a 4 years long war
i am implying russia was planning on ukraine doing the sensible thing and folding but they belived nato is an actual real force like it was in the 90's
>causing NATO expansion and ramp up on weapons spending?
how is that going? can you produce more shells than fucking north korea yet?
>>515193654
>I reckon, though, that if they weren't a proper country before the Special Needs Shitshow, they are now. Forged in blood and fire and forever looking westward
i wonder if they'll be so pro-western after their humiliating capitulation
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>They look Russian
>They speak Russian
>They behave like Russians

They are Russians that were jealous of the EU gibs Poland was getting. And now they get nothing.
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>>515193880
>They will just loot you on a regular basis and install anything they want to run your country as their forward operating base.
That's a very good way of describing US foreign policy.
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>>515191125
>Makes zero sense
Because they're an artificial nation and never fought for their freedom, they got it for free with no blood spilled in 1991. Easy come, easy go.
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>>515191125
being ruled by zigs would be way worse
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>>515193949
>Easy come, easy go.
if that were true, they would have surrendered in Feb 2022
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>>515191125
>Makes zero sense.
It is not about the people but about staying in power and rule.
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>>515191125
Because they had stupid ideas about their political possibilites.
Well, actually, to be fair, they didn't until 2014 coup.
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>>515193916
>EU gibs Poland was getting.
EU always pulls out more than it puts in.
Neoliberal capitalism is not a charity.
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>>515193566
This is true but he was winning politically in Ukraine. Maidan did not have majority popularity.
However he got outmaneuvered and the rest of your post stands. Russia cannot compete economically or diplomatically with the west (obviously, cold war was lost).
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>>515193837
Can't see any Russian land controlled by foreign countries. It seems that joke military is enough against you clowns.
>>515193897
Goodnight anon.
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>>515191713
He is the hero of Ukraine.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMHtKscopJ7W8-hKubq/
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>>515191125
>Why did they commit suicide?
they trusted the eternal anglo
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>>515193661
>vassals
Hi Ivpn
>One of Russia's war aims is demilitarizing Ukraine
Kek.
>Ukrainian propaganda
I've seen more vatniggers die in .webm than the Kremlin admits to. Don't have the cheek to talk about propaganda.
>Ukrainian propaganda
And yet Russia managed to get their unsinkable flagship sunk
>A few planes were destroyed
The strategic bomber fleet was decimated thousands of miles behind the front lines. Not a big deal. Hearty kek.
>their economy is doing fine
How do you know? Economic data is classified and the Russian financial chief said she thinks its reserve capacity is done. Interest rates are through the roof and people are beginning to feel the pinch.
>Best Korea
A truly sickening state that only the truly desperate would ever have anything to do with. And why dies industrial powerhouse Russia, whose economy is doing fine, need their help, exactly?
>Russia didn't abandon Iran
Well, they didn't help. Because they couldn't. Because they're teetering like a 3 year old's lego tower.
Back to Lakhta you go for new cope.
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>>515193998
The jew didn't let them and mandates total citizen extermination. SHOCKING, right?
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>>515193566
>has nothing to offer to any countries in its sphere of influence
Not true, Ruskies where offering Ukraine much more than EU ever did, investments, monies, gibts, gas... it's all documented.
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>>515194163
>Lakhta! Ivan!
Time for the front. Chop chop.
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>>515193725
>sphere of influence
Russia doesn't have any right to influence its neighbours anymore than anywhere else. Should the UK have invaded Ireland when we left the EU because they wouldn't?
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>>515193933
Nazis chose to surrender to them over Russians for a reason, so this is just vatnik cope.
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>>515193905
>i wonder if they'll be so pro-western after their humiliating capitulation
3 more days, eh?
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>>515194238
>Russia doesn't have any right to influence its neighbours anymore than anywhere else.
Maybe it doesn't but it how things are - geopolitical reality.
All the big countries have sphere of influence, Russian one is quite small considering the size really.
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>>515194305
He is confused about political influences, his government doesn't have any inside of their capital city with ninjas running around knifing people xD.
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>>515194200
Okay, I have a question, because this is a common zigger cope. Why didn’t this work in Afghanistan? The Taliban were not as threatening as the Russian army, and America spent a lot more blood and treasure trying to build up the ANA. And yet they collapsed in three weeks. If the explanation is le evil westerners are pulling the strings and Ukrainian citizens don’t actually want this conflict, what was the variable that led to Afghanistan collapsing in three weeks while Ukraine has continued to resist the mongoloids for three years and counting?
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>>515191125
>they
Who is this "they" exactly? Do you think that white coubtries actually wanted to get swarmed by migrants? Manufactured consent through media brainwashing is the best you can get these days. I wouldn't call that a choice.
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>>515191125
>Ukraine lived side-by-side with their neighbor for decades
>said neighbor attacks Ukraine

>OMG how could the Pigcraine oblast do that!! They forced Russia's hand by NAFO tranny jew biolabs! >:(

We don't know, Johan Schnitzel from Oblast Berlin. It is truly a mystery.
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>>515194275
Nah, frontlines of today are pretty much borders of tomorrow in Ukraine.
Europe still gets 3/4 of the loot tho idk if acquisition of Ukraine will ever turn profitable with all the expenses. Still it'll at least help EU recover some of the losses there.
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>>515193998
Look what happened with Boris Johnson.
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>>515194228
4chan is a proving ground for arguments to be trotted out later on ArseBook. This is not news. I don't know how much of a newfag you are, but we had to put up with RUSSIA STRONK! for fucking years while ever other flag was comfy criticising their own governments. It just makes this Special Needs Shitshow even sweeter pottery
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>>515194305
Geopolitics isn’t a charity. Russia’s sphere of influence is small (and growing smaller) because they are a shithole. The only countries in their sphere are those they can compel by force. This entire war is them trying to force Ukraine back into their sphere and Ukraine proving that it is militarily capable of resisting.
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>14:1
>no fuel
>losing ground
pick all 3 katzap faggots lmao
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>>515194275
>3 more days, eh?
dunno, it took them 3 years to kill 1,7mln ukrainian soldiers, how many do you think are left? bonus question how many soldiers can nato mobilize and how many months would they last given attrition rates in ukraine?
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>>515194456
Yeah this is an embarrassing war but you're still a bigger retard for simping for Ukraine and the west.
Ukraine winning will not make UK English again. The opposite.
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>>515194305
>geopolitical reality.
Well the geopolitical reality is that they've utterly failed to bully their neighbour and made NATO even bigger. Other long suffering neighbours are taking note
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>>515192478
Today Reddit got semi banned in Russia, probably full ban in a few days.

From huge external websites only 4ch is not banned
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>>515194456
Ok now show the equivalent for NATO.
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>>515194516
>Ukraine winning will not make UK English again. The opposite.
So Ukraine should lose? Who would win then?
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>>515194217
lol. Russia lives off of fuel exports. It cannot provide good jobs. Proof of that is that Russia itself is an shithole, despite having all the oil in the world.
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>>515194489
>how many do you think are left?
Enough to make the Russians go backwards these last few weeks. One strange trick, eh?
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>>515194581
Let's be honest and pause for a second. Peace in Europe costs some villages in the east no one cares about. Give them what they want and let's get this over with.
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>>515191495
Ukraine has never lived better than under Yanukovych, stupid nigger. That was literally their Golden Age.
All they had to do is to SHUT THE FUCK UP and enjoy a good life but hell no they had to drag themselves into continuous wars.
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>>515194639
>reward the bully
That's up to the Ukrainians but I'm not sure it's ever worked out well in the past
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>>515194639
>Some political entity wants every part of Europe, all the way to Portugal

>UGH, FINE!! - said the "unknown entity"

>We'll compromise and take only half of Gayrope

>you should all praise our endless kindness and willingness to compromise our integrity for you

Feels like we heard this one before.
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>>515194707
Well Russia has nukes and imagine getting nuked over Pokrovsk. Who even cares about Pokrovsk? Did you ever want to visit it? Does anybody live there? No, not really, just give them what they demand or they just might get angry and nuke us all.
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>>515194604
I wrote what they where offering to counter EU deal.
If you have oil you don't need much of anything else really so ofc, if my cunt had oil I would gladly live off fuel exports.
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>>515194752
>they just might get angry and nuke us all.
Do you think they'll mind when they get nuked back? Do you think deleting Russia is worth pokrovsk?
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>>515191125
Because like 80% of people here blindly obey kikes.
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>>515194516
pootin will not give you back Kosovo, it's gone. You simping for the corrupt, retarded gulaghomo russia to "spite Europeans and Americans" is not gonna change anything for your your country. You're just glad that yet another Slavic country is being destroyed by the unreliable empire.
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>>515194707
Tho who is really bully here, as I said my position is EU came to Russia not the other way around.
Ukraine in EU, jesus man, like can we have referendum about it?
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>>515191125
They want a Ukrainian nation state but even if they won they'd get population replacement like all Europe. Why bother indeed
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>>515194752
Clearly since it’s such a shithole Russia isn’t going to get itself turned to glass over it. They didn’t NOOOOK when Kursk was invaded, it’s ludicrous to think they’d nuke over getting pushed out of Ukraine.
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>>515194605
>Enough to make the Russians go backwards
lmao i bet those gains are totally real
>>515194707
>reward the bully
you know geopolitics is nothing like your schoolyard bullshit, right? why don't you put a reference to harry potter and the avengers while you're at it
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>>515194767
>if my cunt had oil I would gladly live off fuel exports.
Indeed. Russians should be as rich, fat, and happy as Norwegians. Indoor toilets for all. International friends instead of "vassals". Doesn't seem to be hiw their minds work, though.
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>>515194752
>the MIGHTY bear has noooks!
>"our" position is untenable, euro-"bros"
>"we" should cumpromise and let u- them have everything they want
Yea.
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>>515191495
Fpbp
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>>515194752
>get angry and nuke us all.
Nah man even if something gets nuked in Ukraine and that would probably be the case if Ruskies started losing ground there nothing would happen.
Like do you think american ultra rich want to risk comfy life and money, new business jet over some shithole in ukraine.
I even think if some nato country in the east like poland gets nukes there would still be no retaliatory strikes against russia. Western europe is another story.
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>>515194840
>EU came to Russia
EU doesn't want anything except cheap oil from Russia. Now, not even that. Ukraine came to EU, as was their right. Honestly, do you think the UK has the right to invade Ireland and threatened to nuke anyone who protests because they continue to be in the EU?
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>>515194919
>you know geopolitics is nothing like your schoolyard bullshit, right? why don't you put a reference to harry potter and the avengers while you're at it

>look, lad, I know that it looks like we should blindly and unconditionally give Russia everything it wants, like the Kremlin propagandists tell us
>but that's just part of being an adult
>that's the rational and grown up thing to do
Uh-huh. Curious how Russia should always win in "adult geo-politics", huh?
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>>515194978
They didn’t nuke in 2022 when it looked like there was a real chance of 4th guards tank division getting encircled at Izyum.
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>>515194752
NATO has nukes too. Why doesn't that question get asked of the Russians? They are the ones try to steal land.
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>>515195037
>Uh-huh. Curious how Russia should always win in "adult geo-politics", huh?
no we should never let putin have the infinity gauntlet
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>>515195022
>Ukraine came to EU, as was their right
with a gentle push...
and speaking of right, lemme quote our dear el presidente: "That war could perhaps have been avoided if the pretentiousness of the European way of thinking had not declared the thesis that every country has the right to decide which military alliance or association it will join."
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>>515195081
>NATO has nukes too.
the best part is hohol tranneis ain't part of nato xD
#nukeporkroastsk
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>>515195137
You didn't answer the question tho?
Why is it always "Russia should get everything they want, unconditionally"? Is it jews? Trannies?
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>>515194919
>lmao i bet those gains are totally real
lol. Are you implying that every map out there is faking it?
The more I talk to cynical dissimulate faggots like you, the more ardently I hate russians.
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>>515195209
>hy is it always "Russia should get everything they want, unconditionally"
Bro they gifted whole eastern europe.
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>>515191125
It`s a meme state created by bolsheviks with demographical troubles because of its meme-status. Like any other near muh Rus.
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>>515195187
You didn't answer me. Does the UK have the right to invade Ireland for continuing its EU membership? Does it have the right to threaten anyone who protests with nukes?
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>>515195239
>lol. Are you implying that every map out there is faking it?
fine point out those gains then
>>515195209
>You didn't answer the question tho?
because it's a silly strawman that deserves nothing more than slight mocking
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>>515195266
>It`s a meme state
Not anymore. You've given them their foundation myth. You've given them their Great Patriotic War.
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>>515195266
Like usa and china, right?
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>>515195251
And now they want it back. Unconditionally. And a lot of "genuine people with grassroots opinions" tell us that they should. Curious.

>>515195354
>strawman
Is the Budapest memorandum a strawman too?
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>>515195198
>the best part is hohol tranneis ain't part of nato xD
So, every country that borders russia and has no nukes has to either surrender to russia, get nuked by the russians when they fail to win a conventional war, get nukes ASAP and point them right at Moscow, or finally, join NATO.
Thank you. That's what we needed to know.
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>>515195300
UK/EU, there's very little ideological difference really so not the same thing in my eyes.
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>>515195300
sure if ireland is not part of nato and it wants to have russian nukes stationed there which will clearly threaten your security
as a member of nato i give you green light xD
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>>515194489
>dunno, it took them 3 years to kill 1,7mln ukrainian soldiers
Why not 1.7 billion?
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>>515195393
>And now they want it back.
I doubt that, they just don't want to give Ukraine after all the gibts they already made.
EU will still take 3/4 of Ukraine from them in the end.
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>>515195447
They still see Ukros as brothers.
It's like when your little brother gets hooked to fentanyl and you have to beat addiction out of him since you don't know better.
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>alt tab back
>5 yous on one post
Damn. Good hunt today.
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>>515195464
>I doubt Hitler wants more than Sudetenland
>I doubt Stalin wants more than Poland
>I doubt Xi wants more than Taiwan
The "Global South" always wins, huh, my genuine European Western brother?
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>>515194838
I just want to join a big Slavic horde and capture everything till Lisabon. Kosovo is small fish. Think big.
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>>515195434
I see this line frequently. Can you show me where Ukraine declared they wanted to join NATO and have nukes stationed there before the war? Can you explain how this is different to Finland being in NATO?
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>>515195403
>So, every country that borders russia and has no nukes has to either surrender to russia
or maybe they can opt out of joining a hostile alliance? crazy i know
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>>515195251
lol, they were given eastern europe after ww2 for free. And after USSR fall they were given peace and nukes(from Ukraine). But they do not respect any of that and think they are some kind of great empire. While in fact without support and backstabbing they always lost every single war which was 1v1. Even with chinese who suck at wars.
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>>515195528
>It's like when your little brother gets hooked to fentanyl and you have to beat addiction out of him
Jesus. Talk about strained analogies.
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>>515195361
Me? It`s the Monke aka Strelkov`s jailer.

>>515195366
The US created themselfs. "Ukraine" has been created.
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>>515195615
>they were given peace and nukes(from Ukraine).
ukraine never had any control over the nukes same way germany has no control over us nukes stored on its teritory
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>>515191495
Words that kill...
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>>515195574
You copebelters are just blinded by mommy issues with Russia and get so emotional any discussion is impossible.
Just know small shitty countries like yours and mine are only possible in this geopolitical vacuum created by absolute US dominance and we won't last for long in this form....
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>>515195574
>I doubt NATO wants more than Kiev
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>>515195602
as long as you can show me bong pass i will answer all of your question xD
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>>515195723
Russia thought they did. They signed a treaty guaranteeing Ukraine's integrity to disarm them. Strange thing to do, if the nukes were theirs anyway.
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>>515195615
>eastern europe after ww2 for free
That was not free my man, I would say they even overpaid in blood.
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>>515195769
>copebelters
I wonder who uses that term? Probably genuine and real Europeans.

>>515195789
>I doubt NATO wants more than Kiev
>you don't understand, those daily shahed attacks on civvies are pushing NAFO troons back
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>>515195723
drop the vpn faggot
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>>515195904
Yup, Ukraine deserves to be destroyed because trannies in America exist.
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>>515195723
Not the same, Germany is just occupied territory.
Ukraine was part of USSR, they had a say over nukes too.
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>>515191125
jews
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>>515195929
>trannies in America
Useful idiots, as our Russian friends call them
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>>515195821
>Russia thought they did
>literally 5 seconds of googling later
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>>515191125
>get invaded by the rabid dog of europe
>lol why would the Ukrainians do this?
Vatnik fatigue.
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>>515195904
>I wonder who uses that term?
idk I've heard that here on 4ch and use that term since it suits for the extreme ruskies butthurt just fine in my opinion.
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>>515195907
zamknij morde mykola bo nie dostaniesz napiwku na uberku
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>>515191125
why do you retarded cunts think the average person has any say in anything?
all of this shit is orchestrated by jews and their freemason shabbos goy that run every government

the khazarian mafia jews did this war because ukraine is ancient khazaria
they want their revenge on the kievan rus who kicked them out
and they need the land to flee too after they start ww3 for real and fuck the entire world up
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>>515191125
Getting a jewish president when you're not a jewish people means you're going to get ethnically cleansed.
Find one instance in history where it hasn't happened.

Getting a Jewish leader is like seeing the Grim Reaper staring at you down the hallway.
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>>515195929
Destroyed? Weren't they supposed to be "liberated" and "freed" from the satanic and decaying west? Man, the narrative keeps changing, but the message stays the same. "Russia wins, unconditionally". Curious that.

>>515196041
Well, how convenient. Don't forget about warm water ports and chihuahuas.
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>>515196036
>in exchange for security assurances
Never trust a vatnigger
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>>515195604
>>515195769
This has nothing to do with Ukraine joining NATO, even if Ukraine had refused to join NATO, this war would have happened, because Russians believe that being normal is to be a slave to the Tsar, and since they think Ukrainians are Russians, they think Ukraine is broken for not being "Normal" and being a slave to the Tsar.

Because that is a Russian's purpose, to be a slave of the Tsar.

And the people here who see nothing wrong with that mindset, it's because deep down, they do believe that their purpose is to be a slave of the great Tsar.
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>>515196093
Go grow a brain I'm shitposting.
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>>515196093
Serbro just traumatised by the past zog-bombings.
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>>515196126
>I'm only pretending to be retarded
It's funny that supporting Russia and appearing retarded are so closely aligned
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>>515192149
Monke bannana:DDD
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>>515196124
>This has nothing to do with Ukraine joining NATO, even if Ukraine had refused to join NATO, this war would have happened, because russia is le bad
absolutely retarded take
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>>515196124
>Because that is a Russian's purpose, to be a slave of the Tsar.
What the fuck my man.
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>>515196126
Shitposting as in "funposting"? Or as in >>515194456 -posting? Hard to tell these days.
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>>515196190
Turn off pc and take a deep breath, when I actually shilled for Russia I was good at it.
Now I don't care much. You don't need to read too much into it.
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>>515196242
>Turn off pc
Very optimistic of you anon. Quality of thread here is more consistent with phoneposters.
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>>515191125
because the retards thought they could win
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>>515195602
>Can you show me where Ukraine declared they wanted to join NATO and have nukes stationed there before the war?
and they were asking for the nato membership way before crimea was liberated by russia
if you are really interested about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations
check this
>Can you explain how this is different to Finland being in NATO?
finland has 5 mil people ukraine had 40
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>>515196123
Because they don't get the attention they deserve from the government or media
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>>515196398
I recognise these idiots.
The Lithuanian is a Russian liberal who was a hardcore Russian and then realised it was shit. In the east if you dislike your country you literally change ethnicity. If you pay an Ukrainian 10k euro to identify as Russian he'll do it. So that guy is now apperantly Lithuanian.

The UK flag is a boomer who thinks it's okay if all Englishmen disappear because blacks, browns and other immigrants will be speaking English and continue their country.

All in all great figures who totally belong on this website. And of course I'll shitpost around those people.
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>>515196215
The idea that Russia was terrified that NATO was going to invade them is even more retarded.

No it's clear just looking at the country that Russians don't understand or believe in Freedom. It's been well beaten out of most of them after centuries of slavery and Communism.

They think there's nothing else than what they have, that the shithole of a nation is the best they got, couldn't have Ukraine proving them wrong, Might make them think that maybe there's more to life than serfdom. That maybe the best system isn't to live in decaying commieblocks because your leaders need a 5th yacht.
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>>515194089
>WE CAN DO BERLIN IN 3 DAYS
>can't even take kiev, which is 350kms from the border, in 3 years
kek
reminder - russian paratroopers had ceremonial uniforms in their packs when they jumped.
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>>515196500
>hurrdurr
So, how does launching 800+ shaheds per day directly at civvies liberate the pigcraine from tranny biolabs?
And why is the message "Russia should always win"?
The topic always changes abruptly when these questions are brought up. I wonder why?
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>>515191125
i guess they expected we help them or something lol lmao
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>>515196461
>and have nukes stationed there
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>>515196614
I already said this war is embarrassing for them and just proves that they cannot compete diplomatically and economically with the west.
After all when was the last time US deployed and lost so many resources (men included) for a military takeover.
And when they do they make sure to pump insane amounts of money and propaganda to be at least somewhat accepted by the civillians, they do not go WWII style all guns blazing.

Now that I've covered that, back on you, you easterners have no spine, you'd sell your own mother to survive.
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>>515196222
That's the attitude pushed.

I look at Russia I look at it's oil wealth, I look at it's natural resources and I come to the conclusion that no one in their right mind would willingly look at the fact that despite all their wealth and all their potential wealth, most of the country lives in a squalor that makes parts of Africa look better without realizing that they've been convinced that it's normal to live like that.
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>>515196500
I don't really enjoy being 4ch shitposter but have often slow going parts of the day at work and no will to do anything else. Would be even worse if I started recognizing other anons, that would be too much.
But as they say, you can never leave....
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>>515196546
>No it's clear just looking at the country that Russians don't understand or believe in Freedom.
lol, lmao even meanwhile in the land of (((our democracy))) and freedom
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>>515196780
I will report I worked 8 hours today, I worked 1-2h.
Lezi lebe da te jedem.
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>>515196461
>finland has 5 mil people ukraine had 40
So, the population of the country hosting nukes on your border makes some sort of difference?
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>>515194200
>The jew didn't let them
they all obey one jew?
he must very powerful then
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>>515196705
>2008
and of course they will not have nukes stationed right away cause as of troday only germany italy and i think turkey have us nukes stationed
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>>515196781
>resorts to whatabout
Kek. Almost time to abandon bread, Igor
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>>515196614
>So, how does launching 800+ shaheds per day
>0 civilians killed 2 wounded
gee those russians are really bad at it, aiming at hospitals and puppy farms but always hitting some military target, it's especially funny now that a certain middle eastern country has given us a baseline of how many civvie deaths to expect from airstrikes
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>>515196781
Like there's much freedom in the "west". Freedom to do what exactly, shitpost in comments section of tabloids?
I have to go to work, pay taxes, get fines for every little shit I do wrong... idk.
>>515196824
Same my man, 1-2 hours effective, 8 hours total plus I run late 20 minutes every day and leave 20 minutes earlier. Dismantling capitalism from inside one work hour at a time.
"Rad je stvorio čoveka, a nerad gospodina."
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>>515196922
>they just don't love freedom
>m-muh whataboutism
you're not even trying, are you?
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>>515196973
>Same my man, 1-2 hours effective
I'm at home right now. It's just a special kind of a part time job.
>"Rad je stvorio čoveka, a nerad gospodina."|
Picrelated.
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>>515196706
Embarrassing or not, your message is still "Russia wins, so just give in, if you don't you're a brainwashed zog-tranny-jew". And the topic quickly switched to "ur country bad, i was just trolling, your stupid you fell for it".

>>515196941
>it's only a couple of civvies xaxa))
>who care xaxa)))
>zog-tranny-jews))))
>they were nafo-tranny-generals anyway)))
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>>515192275
Year after year you russhit subhumans keep coping online about your imaginary telegrams victories. And all the while in observable reality you are so utterly pathetic and impotent, you can't even defend your refineries or nuclear bombers against hohol toy drones.
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>>515196906
That's weird. And yet the Baltics and Norway have been in NATO so much longer. It's almost like NATO couldn't give a fuck about putting nukes on Russia's borders. Of course, that would mean, as a causus belli, it's a pretty shit one
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>>515197036
>Russia wins, so just give in
That was part of the shitposting, dear white negro of Europe.
>ur country bad, i was just trolling, your stupid you fell for it
Yes. The topic switched. So get on with it.
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>>515196941
There's theory that civilians are not legitimate target only in totalitarianism.
In democracy civilians are responsible for acts of their govt since they voted them and their policies in so that makes them legitimate military target, other than those that can't vote be it because of age or other reasons ofc.
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>>515191125
Ask these guys
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>>515196781
The Bong Elite and the Russian Elite are far more alike than they realize, that's why they hate each other so much. They're both decaying Empires with decaying economies who's populace can only look to past glories to be proud of.
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>>515196987
>whatabout
Tell me about Keir Starmer's political opponents that have been gulaged and murdered. His press is pretty hostile, tell me about all the journalists he's had murdered. Tell me about the dissidents living abroad he has sent MI6 to murder with radioactive poisons. Really whatabout me.
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>>515197074
>In democracy civilians are responsible for acts of their govt since they voted them and their policies
We do not live in direct democracies and it's not so simple because the democracy is gay and controlled by either foreign influences or domestic main party.
Like here.
In Serbia a quarter of the country are SNS supporters. And a good number of those are blackmailed people (if they work in government or even some private companies).

>inb4 they're complicit which equals responsibility
Sure, but I don't think you can go around and take someone's head off just because they're complicit. Most people have to be complicit sometimes.
However if you're a cop/soldier in this time you're a mercenary of the colonial nation-state so you do not get any understanding.
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>>515197172
Seriously the sad thing is Russia has no reason to be even more pathetic than the UK, yet they are.

Russia has tons of natural resources, they ultimately have most of their Empire intact, there is no reason for them to be this pathetic.


They don't need Ukraine no matter what their idiotic leaders think.
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>>515197049
not weird at all and more to that
we had territorial dispute with russia just like hohols
guess what we did? we gave up russian spoken territories
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrene_county
guess what happened afterwards and how many Latvians died? russia fucked off and
ZERO Latvians died
xD
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>>515197234
>Russian speaking territories
I wonder if the UK could use this anywhere to justify a murderous invasion. Really activates the pistachios
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>>515196906
The US has never made any idea of moving nukes into Eastern Europe, mostly because they remember how they responded to the Cuban Missile Crisis
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>>515197346
You can kill me since I speak English xD.
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>>515197233
>They don't need Ukraine
They had a feeling that if colored revolution was a total success in Ukraine they're next.
And those cultural revolutions at their core are just used to open the door for western capital, it's like vessel for neoliberal capitalism.
And it's good that west/US has some counterweight so they have to show they're better than alternative.
In my opinion biggest loss for US lower and middle class is fall of soviet union, the counterweight that prevented US capitalism from going full liberal.
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>>515197392
Slapping Serbia around is no fun. You give up too easily. It's like picking on little girls.
Score prediction for tonight?
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>>515197172
kek, struck a nerve there?
>>515197346
>I wonder if the UK could use this anywhere to justify a murderous invasion.
modern day uk couldn't invade anything on its own with its 200 operational tanks and usa doesn't even bother justify its murderous invasions which uk is a part of every time
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>>515195723
>ukraine never had any control over the nukes
No they did, your crap was debunked, and that why the r*ssian want theses
>same way germany has no control over us nukes stored on its teritory
No, the US weapons inside US c*mp in Spain or co are US weapon; so no similarity between the two.

Bad try, dude.
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>>515197532
>Slapping Serbia around is no fun. You give up too easily
If that's so why did you drop your demands against us in 1999?
>inb4 which demands
Look it up yourself.
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>>515197515
>feewings
Is that what you're reduced to? Tell me, what is about Colour Revolutions that make you "feel" they have to be contiguous?
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>>515197567
>No they did, your crap was debunked,
debunk away mr memflaggot
>No, the US weapons inside US c*mp in Spain or co are US weapon;
are you having a stroke?
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>>515196036
Of course this is untrue; *Kraine did actually hold the op*rationnal control.

Bad try, vatnik bro.
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>>515197574
Kek. Shitposting only works one way, eh? Pussy
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>>515197618
>are you having a stroke?
Dont you understand that i debunked your lies?
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>>515197671
>Kek. Shitposting only works one way,
First time talking to a Slav?
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>>515191125
Why did you? Just be a slave to whoever is ruling you so you don't die.

Gutless coward.
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>don't fight for your home
>just let the invader who has controlled your country through corruption and graft for decades subjugate you through force
>everybody should want to be part of a corrupt shithole like Russia!
Russian shills on this site are so fucking obvious it's hilarious they think they fit in here. Go back to leftypol, tanky dumbfucks.
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>>515197346
>I wonder if the UK could use this anywhere to justify a murderous invasion.
well you had your run for a long time
are you regretting conquering the world?
anon it could be you are just angry at yourself when you see russia does the same in the modern age
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>>515197615
It doesn't really, true. Current happening in Serbia is also colored revolution in my books. Not that I support current govt there which is ironically also results of similar happening 20 years ago.
Nothing good ever comes out of those.
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>>515197707
>Of course this is untrue; *Kraine did actually hold the op*rationnal control.
kek is this the debunking you are refering to?
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>>515197666
>>515196036 #
Of course this is untrue; *Kraine did actually hold the op*rationnal control.

Bad try, vatnik bro.

Furthermore, not having any type of control, which is not true, would not change the fact that there were indeed weapons of the free and independant of *kraine, you damage control is not only inaccurate (they did control these weapons and that the r*ssian did the memorandum) but would not procès your crap in any way.

Very bad propaganda; vatnik...
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>>515191125
Why did you? Just be a slave to whoever is ruling you so you don't die.

Gutless coward.
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>>515197964
>Current happening in Serbia is also colored revolution
Colour revolution by fucking whom kek. Serbia is surrounded by NATO and EU. Only reason we're not inside is because Serbs are distrustful and the information would leak. This is why we're kept on a distance and get to have our own Lukashenko except Lukashenko actually does many good things and Belarus can brag about some of them meanwhile Vucic does almost nothing good.
If the west disliked something they could easily sway our external politics. Or they could sanction us and cut the funds. If this doesn't collapse Serbia then it would make paying all of those policemen a much more difficult task.

I don't want to personally insult you since you're in Croatia and things might look different from there but seeing what Vucic does and the state of our country you have to be stupid to think this is a colour revolution and people are not hitting the street because they want him gone.
>b-but red-haired lesbian students!
Are a small minority of even the students but yes they're vastly overrepresented because most people do not heavily involve themselves in politics. So they granted them too much space.
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>>515198160
>Colour revolution by fucking whom kek.
What is colored revolution in your opinion? In mine it's seizing power by pro-liberal forces that don't have enough political power to win elections so they do it out in the streets with slight but always present push from the outside.
> seeing what Vucic does
I actually feel that govt in Croatia does not reflect true political nature of the country, it's way more progressive and civilized than that.
I feel the same about Serbia, president that would truly reflect Serbia today would be someone much much darker than Vucic.
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>>515198876
There is one thing people fail to see. Notice how now, apperantly, there are no just protests. Foreign governments that don't like a certain protest stay silent. Other governments say it's a colour revolution or le Russian funded psyop.
But in general, large silence.
Most governments are starting to crack down on their citizens and there is an understanding that if some of them allowed the civillians to depose or change their government it would set a "bad" precedent.
>What is colored revolution in your opinion
Revolution backed by foreign elements.
> pro-liberal forces that don't have enough political power to win elections
Coalition forces (traditionally "liberals" here but of the same cloth as SNS) were kicked out of the protests and some of them now don't even support the students/protestors because nobody bought into it.
And of course they cannot win elections. The game was designed that way.
>I feel the same about Serbia, president that would truly reflect Serbia today would be someone much much darker than Vucic.
I am from here and I think Vucic perfectly reflects a lot of modern Serbia, nothing more nothing less.
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>>515191821
Based. Next month, the ERAM cruise missiles start to be delivered. 3500 cruise missiles will be delivered, over time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPyXmm5zPtA
Specially designed for the AFU. RIP Russia's hydrocarbons enterprise facilities/industry. Already there are fuel shortages in the civilian sector.
https://files.catbox.moe/ybxudd.mp4
They are diverting all of the fuel to the 3 day SMO effort. 25% of Russian oil production capacity is destroyed. And these cruise missiles are much more destructive then the OWA UAVs the usually use for strategic boming. OPEC is also increasing production, by the way. And so that will neg the Russian profits to fund the war. Everything is lining up for Russian doom this winter.
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>>515191125
Ukrainian culture is commit mass suicide
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>>515199107
>But in general, large silence.
EU did sent their idk how those are even called, delegates or something?
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>>515192205
Here is the truth on who's committing suicide.
Road to pokrovsk
just a sample of what that PR stunt towards Pokrovsk cost russia.
https://files.catbox.moe/abdadl.mp4
It's the side that's continually running in to the heaviest mined/fortified/defended area's in Ukraine.
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>>515199273
EU is currently orgasming that Vucic is giving them land for mining at a cut worse than an African countries get.
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>>515199142
>The first 10 are scheduled for delivery in October.
lmao, it's over, this wunderwaffel will surely destroy russia
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>>515191125
>14:1
cope harder zigger, Ukraine is winning
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>>515191125
>The other presidents were corrupt western puppets and stole billions
>Eveyone's puppet state
Jewkraine isn't a country, it was a business.
It's purpose was to loot whatever soviet resources got left on their side of the border. Now that it's done, this business is simply getting liquidated and whatever useful personnel, which includes useful and resourceful men or breeding age uteri has already been salvaged.
When it comes to the people who are still stuck there, that's a sad case of tough shit for them.
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>>515191125
>Why did they commit suicide?
>they

They commit nothing. Actually they "vote" against war and neo-nazi larp bullshit.
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>>515199509
True, Zelensky was like option for peace and person out of usual political establishment.
Ukrainians actually didn't do anything wrong.
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>>515191898
BroZ how do we respond without sounding mad? I think its ovyir
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>why dont ukris just...le give up
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>>515199890
>why dont ukris just...le face the facts
they can always go full paraguay
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>>515199890
Historically they have 100% defeat rate as an independent country
Why risk ruining those stats
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>>515199466
>Ukraine is winning
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There is one little flaw with your post, Vladimir: Ukraine did not start this war. Russia did.
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>>515200486
Good thing Russia didn't waited until azov will attack Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea.
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>>515191125
Most people are fucking retarded and will believe anything that the television and politicians tell them to believe.
In the case of Ukraine they dangled the EU carrot infront of them and promised them entry into the land of milk and honey if they fought against le evil Russkies.
Now they don't know that the EU and the West in general are on the verge of bankruptcy with their cities overrun with shitskins and other vermin, that they will never be granted entry into the EU and that even if they were they would be pushed into nigger filled ghettos where their belief in fantasy shit like BLM will see them murdered in the streets.
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>>515191523
>USA have nukes
>China have nukes
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So now the latest zigger cope is that even though they lost 400k soldiers ukraine actually 6 gorillion so it's okay
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>>515197567
>ukraine never had any control over the nukes
>No they did, your crap was debunked
By whom retard?

You faggots lie without shame. The GLADLY accepted 2 billion dollars for thier nukes. They had no way to pay for maintenance and NOBODY wanted them to be a nuckear power. Its just a troon talking point.
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>>515191125
Let them decide for themselves. They are a sovereign nation and people.
Just like us (Moldovans) will never be Romanians. We have nothing in common with romanian gypsies, we speak moldovan not romanian and I don't want Moldova to be annexed by imperialist gypsies again
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>>515194687
>Soon as the Americans take over the economy shits the bed.
What a surprise. Fucking parasites.
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>>515196037
We sent like 3-4 bils to piggers, for what? After all the cuts, from my own experience, both in Uusimaa and Pirkanmaa regions at least public healthcare went to an utter shit, like literaly couldn't do anything, the only way to get your health issues fixed is going private to Terveystalo/Mehiläinen, as the public sector is just infested with all kind of sandniggers and piggers, while the staff headcount was cut massively. I don't give a fuck whether ziggers and piggers die, I don't want our (((government))) and waste money on this shit and (((Stubb))) could also go do something else than going on 1000th meeting/call with Jewlenskike and coallition of retarded impotents
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>>515201154
Idk bro, it doesn't seems that Russians spam here every day about 24:1 experience and fpv videos.
If Russia is losing you really don't need to cope so hard.
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>>515201328
>>515194687
>>515201328
They would have had a Golden Age if Russia hadn't taken Crimea and collapsed the Donbass industry starting their little war.
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>>515191125
this is what happens when you lose in the cold war and USA installs occupational governments on formerly your territories.
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>>515201348
Maybe you shouldn't have voted for cuckoomus 20 years in a row faggot. Our economic crash has been decades in the making.
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>>515191125
For the European dream duh.
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>>515201318
It's a good point, but imagine this conflict happening within one country. Who has the right to decide what language to speak, what rights people should have, and what government they should obey? It's a bit more complicated than white and black or "let them be"
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>>515197515
Color revolution theory is stupid, revolutions don't just magically happen because of CIA magic.

The problem with Russia is that it's such a poverty stricken wretched hive, Western investment would simply vanish into the Russian corruption Black Hole.

It's far more profitable for the West to leave Russia poor on purpose so the Oligarchs will hide their money in the west.
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>>515201472
Eh? It's both cuckcoomus and persesuomalaiset now with retarded policies, not like any flavour of globogomo shit in the government would make anything better (SDPee or Green cucks are just the same shit on the opposite sector of the retardation, but ngl even with cocain k-market cashier whore in charge things felt better, but we were on track to hit the wall even before the current retards). We literally have noone to vote in, and none of this matters, because we would still get imposed regulation from EU cucks in Brussels. So, wat do, and how sending gibs to piggers helps us?
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>>515201442
Maybe Kiev shouldnt have taxxed to fuck out of the east and given them back nothing in return for 20 years. People dont revolt for no reason.
Plus with the USAID/Soros school textbooks they were pissed that thier children were being taught they were the evil opressors with the Holdomor Hoax and what not.
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>>515201587
If Russians in Ukraine love Russia so much they could always go back to Russia.

Could you imagine white people in Africa demanding Europe to come in and reconquer whatever former colony they decided to stay in because the natives were no longer respecting them?
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>>515201442
Donbass industry has collapsed long before the war, thanks to Ukrainian oligarch Akhmetov. Now it's being rebuilt by Russia, several metal plants in DPR and LNR already started working.
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>>515201802
>Given them nothing,
The guy who left in Maiden was throwing the vast majority of Ukrainian Taxes at them. And Anti-Russian behavior didn't start up in full until after Crimea and the war started.

>Hoax
Oh nevermind you're retarded
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>>515201831
>If Russians in Ukraine love Russia so much they could always go back to Russia.
And they did, taking all their land with them.
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>>515192407
oinnnk hows mommy Mykola? is she sucking enough cocks for euros?
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>>515201911
Again up until Maiden the Donbass was getting quite a bit of Tax money.... then the war happened and all that investment went nowhere.


The Donbass can't even get clean water and you actually expect me to be stupid enough to buy that they're doing fine economically?
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>>515201970
It's not their land in the first place.
I'm really happy Russia used so many of the Dumbass People Republic and the Loser's People's Republic as cannon fodder.

They deserved to die even more than the Russians did.
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>>515193654
Ukranda will soon be just an office in London kek.
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>>515197036
Bark louder chihuahua

https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2460129/lithuania-s-birth-rate-reaches-all-time-low#:~:text=Today%2C%20most%20families%20opt%20for,any%20other%20year%20since%201990.
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>>515202132
>The Donbass can't even get clean water and you actually expect me to be stupid enough to buy that they're doing fine economically?
I don't think you're stupid, anon, stop projecting
Donbass is getting a lot of investments now, I think the water problem will be fixed faster than we expect. Donetsk already has started several big building projects, a whole districts. Sadly, a new park was yesterday bombed by ukrainian drones.
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>>515202318
>It's not their land in the first place.
Then who's land it is?
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>>515201318

>checks flag

yea that makes sense. Fuck that nigger Basescu for ever giving you bastardized retards passports.
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>>515199406
If you don't understand the significance of them getting 3500 cruise missiles, then I won't waste my time trying to explain. Their own indigenous FP-5 cruise missile is coming on line as well. This has a 1,150-kilogram (2,540 lb) warhead. 2.5 times the size of a Tomahawk. They use a re-purposed FAB-1500. 3,000 km (1,900 mi) range. So they will ve able to throw 3,000 km (1,900 mi) FAB bombs 2000 miles onto Russia. Right now, they are destroying Russia's gydrocarbons enterprise with OWA-UAVs with just 30-80 kg warheads.
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>>515191125
The NYFed’s MO is shifting financial obligations to the people:
>NYFed bought Ukraine in 2014
>NYFed/IMF cartel funds Privat bank in Ukraine beginning in 2014
>NYFed associate/Oligarch Kolomoisky steals money from Privat bank
>Privat Bank then fails and gets nationalized
>now Ukrainian taxpayers are on the hook for broke bank
>Ukraine forced to beg for new loans from the NYFed and its wallet, the IMF, who now use Ukrainian farmland for even more collateral for their outrageous international bank loans

The more strife and infighting, the easier it is for the NYFed/BIS/IMF cartel to loot the TARGET NATION.
Pic related:
’Large-scale, coordinated fraud' becomes 'capital problems' kek
Also, do note how they talk up their new surveillance-state CBDC and digital ID

Did the whole fucking world just forgot these are criminals? NO, IT'S MORE LIKELY THEIR CRIMINAL FRIENDS ARE NOW IN THE GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE NO LONGER CONSIDERED THE FUCKING CAREER CRIMINALS THAT THEY FUCKING ARE.
These people rely on CORRUPTION to thrive.
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seething hohols always makes my day. Imagine these turd-tier cowards whisked away from ukranda by their moms in 2022 when they were 16 years old. imagine them seething behind their pc's typing how ukranda will win any moment now kek. The Russians are Gods punishment on the khokhols. dont be sad they they die in the millions, be happy.
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The IMF's own disbursements and many other articles from the time period document the sale of Ukraine to the NYFed in 2014
The IMF gave Ukraine a new round of loans in 2014, it bought gold, which was promptly transferred to the NYFed to be held as collateral for further loans (Ukrainian farmland is now being used as collateral, when the gold wasn’t enough collateral for NYFed/IMF loans).
The NYFed fucking OWNS Ukraine, much like one owns a summer home.
These are classist, nationless, incorporated central banks that don't give a fuck about you or me.
Ukraine is the Mexico of Europe. Ukraine is a cesspool of organized crime. The more strife and corruption, the easier it is for the NYFed to loot the target nation.

War is never far when there is smuggling, murder, despair, drugs, strife, corruption, bribing, lying, theft, extortion, propaganda.

You have all of this ^^^^in Ukraine, add the NYFed and voila!, it is war.
Anything the NYFed touches, it turns to shit.

Ukraine and its owner, the NYFed, a thread here: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/373203255/

UKRAINE /NYFED/GOLD MOVED in 2014, another thread
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/368173302/#368182158
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>>515200657
They attacked because Russian FSB glowie leaders started claiming areas of Ukraine, as their own. And here is one of the FSB glowie leaders, who was thrown in kail for correctly pointing out thgat Russian commanderes are purposely getting Russians killed. Mow, he just talks shit about Russia continually.
https://x.com/GirkinGirkin
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>>515202687
>The NYFed fucking OWNS Ukraine, much like one owns a summer home.
>These are classist, nationless, incorporated central banks that don't give a fuck about you or me.
<<<---oh no, not the dreaded GDP bonds
looks like blackrock and pimco will be getting a haircut
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>>515202719
Nah, that's just a wannabe retard, got his ass kicked by actual commanders in DPR and then jailed for shitposting. And he keeps shitposting, so the punishment is not very strict and his impact is non-existent.
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>>515201965
You are a lying faggot talking out of your ass and repeating retarded nafo propaganda
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IMF loans billions to Ukraine in 2014
Ukraine promptly purchases gold with IMF money, which is then shipped to the NYFed to be held as collateral for future IMF and/or NYFed loans
NYFed basically purchased Ukraine in 2014
Ukraine’s Privat Bank is funded via the NYFed international banking cartel (aka primary dealers) and Apple Pay is installed (highest number of digital wallets held per capita in Europe)
Ukraine is the Mexico of Europe, with rampant organized crime and corruption, ripe for extortion and pillaging from the NYFed and its primary dealers
Privat Bank oligarch cofounder Kolomoisky leaves and takes ~$4.5B with him
US government bans said oligarch from the US
Oligarch’s subordinates then launder oligarch’s money back through NY and Miami charities
>It’s a LOOP
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>>515203123
>Ukraine is the Mexico of Europe, with rampant organized crime and corruption, ripe for extortion and pillaging from the NYFed and its primary dealers
>Privat Bank oligarch cofounder Kolomoisky leaves and takes ~$4.5B with him
>US government bans said oligarch from the US
>Oligarch’s subordinates then launder oligarch’s money back through NY and Miami charities
>>It’s a LOOP
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>>515203123
Talk about independence.
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>>515202896
>3.2 billion
Holy propaganda Batman.
Try 50 billion just from EU pension funds. Ukraine just missed thier 600 millon dollar intrest payment for the 3rd year in a row. When the truth comes out people will be pissed.
(The truth is out there but well hidden in searches)
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>>515203180
i'm am so sorry for you that you have to live next door to them
i know that area is just your old ghetto

some pasta on the subject:
ukraine is the criminal ghetto of russia
this is well known and why they call the jewish mob in New Jersey little odessa
there are even movies made about this picrel
the criminal jews in NJ speak russian, so people foolishly think they are the russian mob, but they are really the jewish mob

Hollywood has long been blackballing russians for jewish mob actions

pic rel just one example
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>>515202719
Learn english or post real flag you retarded troon

>Russia is harboring Girkin
>in prison......
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>>515203214
propaganda is to deceive
my posts are primarily historical and inform
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>>515202515
Will these FAB bombs be dropped by the Son of the Ghost of Kiev?
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>>515203403
The EU has loaned ukraine 150 billion so far. Where do they get that 3 billion dollar number? Doesnt even cover intrest.
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>>515203214
>Try 50 billion just from EU pension funds.
you are talking about recent investement for the $50B?
i was talking about blackrock investing eight years ago when they first took over kiev
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>>515203300
>you have to live next door to them
Much closer than you can think, anon. I'm from DPR, seen all that Nazi and maidan shit from the inside.
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>>515203300
they;re sof ucking criminal they even killed the mobile phone gaming guy
pic rel top paragraph
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>>515203526
Ok I got you.

>https://www.kyivpost.com/post/53723

Ukraine to Skip $665 Million Payment on GDP Warrants Without Sovereign Default
Ukraine previously approved a moratorium on payments until the government negotiates new terms of debt in full.

by Olena Hrazhdan | May 31, 2025, 10:01 pm
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soon ukraine will be hoping to end the fed itself lol
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>>515203659
i would never go to that site lol
i wasn't born yesterday and i definitely wasn't born in Kiev
pic rel bottom paragraph
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>>515192275
What the fuck are you mutts even talking about
You had the entire soviet arsenal
You outnumbered them the entire war
You have 3x the population and dozens of times over the land

But you cucks somehow managed to fuck it all up and lose the war. What a complete and utter humiliation.
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>>515203753
they were trying to be surgical
at first
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>>515203437
They will be dropped by the Ukranian airforce that still fucking exists with entire squadrons still. Because Russia is worse than most african milita's at war.
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>>515192275
>just bluntly lying to yourselves?
>amplifying your own bullshit that you yourselves come up with?
lol
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>>515203734
I use thier own media to show they are not even hiding it. The only thing Biden did right is just giving them cash and not pretending they would pay it back.

The EU will have to impose austerity measures on pensioners when they finally have to admit they arent getting a penny back from Zelensky.
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>>515203814
At first
But they they mobalised their soviet stockpile and did shadow conscription, extreme pay for service, prisoner conscripts ect
and still they have taken less than 1% of ukraine between 2022 and 2025
The sheer cope is insane, I hear shit like 4 NAFO armies blow up and all Ukrainian men are dead, but the frontline moves slower than WW1
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>>515203887
you can get wheat maybe
barter is superior to debt-based fiat
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>>515203819
>entire squadrons
Is this the clone air force?
Has the new batch matured?
How time flies....
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>lazy skimmers dread real price discovery
and kiev is at the top of the heap
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>>515203978
25% of thier wheat went to bio-fuels and is not fit for human consumption (use of illegal pesticides too). 25% of the corn too. The taxes in the Paris Accords went to big-agra in ukraine for biofuels, was a multi billion dollar scam.
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>>515203888
maybe they don't want to take ukraine
maybe russia is just sick of their bullshit

The Ukrainian government are CAREER CRIMINALS, progressives, they are communists, liberals, socialists, they are funded by the NYFed’s international banks. They bring scorn upon themselves via their corruption and classism. Ukraine has only been a country since 1991.

Russia is once again fighting the communists, as the progressives today in the Ukrainian government have communist ideals (antifa, socialism, welfare, lack of individuality, borderless masses, mass surveillance, no private ownership, debt-based central banking, implementation of a CBDC)
This is just more of the same from 1913 Russia

Liberalism has turned into a plague of poverty, classism and disease.

What we have now is classism being disguised as racism and sexism. It is identical to 1913 Russia, but instead of poverty, the socialists' subversion is in the form of leveraging racial and gender inequities, instead of class. The socialists cannot use class/wealth now to subvert, b/c the socialists ARE the meritless, central bank-funded elitists at the Federal Reserve and its crony ilk.
It is the only way they have left to sow discontent and wrestle more power away from a unified population.

Russia is fighting back against this constant subversion and division.

Did everyone see this video?
Putin to WEF in Jan 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ylV43ZjjuM
@ 30:30:
"It is clear that an era associated with attempts to build a centralized unipolar world order is over, it hasn't been started even there were attempts to do just that but it's over. Such a monopoly was inherently contrary to the cultural and historical diversity of our civilization.”
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>>515203987
Yes, there are still Ukrainian planes, do you have evidence of otherwise? because they still fly sorties daily. Because Russia has utterly failed to take them out.
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ukraine has only been a country since 1991
hurrrrrrr
pic rel the nyfed squirming into Ukraine
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>>515204260
lol
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>>515204194
Holy fucking copy and paste cope
Jewtin also repopulated conquered land with asiatics and mudslimes and allies with the entire brown and chink world. He let norks into europe to kill whites. He has no values beyond self enrichment. The USSR was his home, Russia is just a corpse he can use and abuse as much as he wants.
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the nyfed is a fucking plague
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>>515204312
your choice of words betray your low intellect
when you have something other than your fucking opinion let me know
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>>515204194
>The socialists cannot use class/wealth now to subvert, b/c the socialists ARE the meritless, central bank-funded elitists at the Federal Reserve and its crony ilk.
pic fucking related
it is also an excellent documentary
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kek they're now calling for 75bp cuts on cnbc
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holy fuck just look at the assholes in pic in >>515204713
these fucking failures of 2008 are on steroids now, rigged all laws in their favor
pic rel, yes that's $10 TRILLION
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the people already have the power to stop any tyranny by SIMPLY USING CASH AND LEAVING YOUR PHONE AT HOME sometimes
these two simple things destroy any surveillance plans
you already have the fucking power
it is YOU that chooses to continue using the grid to your own detriment
you already have the power right now
you have agency still
they just need your consent to implement it wholly, then having agency won't even matter

the current tech trend is for citizens to not hold or own information or organize it or remember it
they also do not store it on their own computers, but in a foreign cloud that tracks all changes in real time
they only have instantaneous ACCESS to information
people are not being conditioned to retain info or organize it for themselves

tptb are now waiting for anyone with a high amount of intellect and knowledge to die off, then they will just be left with the malleable, dumbed-down 'instantaneous access' population that can't put two and two together

USE FUCKING CASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN
NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY

A NATION'S FIAT IS THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN FUCKING HANDS
and this is why the Fed seeks to even abolish paper Federal Reserve Notes, b/c fiat paper mostly SERVES THE FUCKING CITIZEN:

fiat is the common national bond and cooperation of the value of one's labor
if this fiat is issued by a private, debt-based central bank, then only the central bank profits from the labor of the citizens, not the treasury or the citizens



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