The zionist Jews are weaponizing mass migration from their endless wars of imperialist genocide in order to suppress a nationalist uprising and kill off the native population in the Ukrainian meat grinder, two things they make a massive profit of and are historically precedented by mass migration policies from the second world war.

>>515197994
worst larp ever

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>>515197994
Start killing politicians and Albanians

>>515198228
Why should I lie? The whole work situation is horrible right now.

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>>515198203

You must rise up and break the shackles of international zionism, to be to the tyrannical zionist Jew occupiers in your own native land what the Taliban, Hamas, and Hizb Allah are to theirs.

From the native sons of Europe from sea to sea, from Europe to America, a revolutionary Jihad must be waged from a historically unprecedented breed of holy Mujahideen.

>>515198228
Man flashing a flashlight directly in your eyes:
"STOP NOTICING ME!"

>>515197994
>have Fachabitur
Gesundheit!

>>515198320
>14 years school for fachbi
>litteraly down of the ladder office clerk
> 2.200 € netto
>cant afford an apartment or house in my town so I still live with parents at home
>cap for bürgergeldbutzen exist
kek

>>515197994
>be me
>high school dropout
>no diploma
>know a guy
>get job in DE
>skilless, thoughtless factory job
>am on autopilot all day, max comfy
>netto >2.500€
>get a raise every year
get gut

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>>515197994
why do German companies cut so much jobs when we import more and more immigrants? It's all a big joke
https://www.rheinpfalz.de/lokal/donnersbergkreis_artikel,-borg-warner-massiver-stellenabbau-angek%C3%BCndigt-_arid,5810354.html

>>515198634
I think that was his point. Nepotism everywere

>>515197994
so, you are a loser and blame Germany for it, right?

>>515198478
The truth is bitter, anon. But atleast rapefugees can live comfy, right?
>>515198634
Good for you Croatanon. Nepotism is almost everywhere here so your best bet is to know someone first before you apply for a new job.

>>515198852
it wasn't a nepotism thung, really. I got fed up with living in my banana republic and I reached out to a guy in BaWu who vouched for me, and I've been here ever since (3+ yrs).
It also helps that scheffin thinks I'm really sympathisch
>>515198965
education is all about networking. I got the job because I'm a good drone that rarely disappoints.

>>515198965
>14 years for Fachabi
>6 years for Ausbildung
>The truth is bitter, anon
kek

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>>515198760
Meanwhile shitskins live a comfy live here without working.
>>515198927
It's the reality.

>>515198927
yup its clearly the fault of young people when cdu faggots make politics exclusively for oldfags (most tax money goes to oldfags, not to niggers or jobless)

but oldfags are completely untouchable in germany. the cdu will NEVER touch oldfags. they get over 60% of the oldfag vote - these are the people controlling the country. more immigrants? oldfags voted for this. less bürgergeld? yup oldfags voted for this, too.

see this is the fundamental flaw of democracy: if you do not breed this increases the political power of your generation by simple mathematics and democracy has absolutely no answer for this.

i dont see why oldfags who didnt get children should get 3000+ euro per month dropped on them, this is what makes us broke, this is what drives prices not the fucking 500 euro on some brownoid / jobless white german

>>515199154
3 years for Ausbildung and 14 years in school. But keep shilling that everything is fine here.

>>515199320
we all need a good geronticide.

>>515197994
Your goverment only cares about Ukraine and immigrants.

Native people problems is not why they was elected by liberals.

>>515198320
Anyone who is looking for jerbs tells me that. I moved to Switzerland so I finally have a jerb.

>>515197994
>>get a new office job last year (40h week)
what exactly do you do in the office?
you are not a professional
so you probably make coffee and fix paper jams in the printer, mister secretary man

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>>515199344
You honestly just sound like an entitled brat without any experience.
Du hast hier unbegrenzt Möglichkeiten, scheinst mir aber eher so, als würdest du dich gerne in die Opferrolle begeben, weil du Angst vor der Realität hast. Und die Realität ist, dass du nutzlos bist und nützlich werden musst.
Hab vor 10 Jahren eine Lehre als Elektroniker angefangen (600€) und bin jetzt mit 27 Projektmanager mit 75k Gehalt im Jahr. Heul nicht rum und fang an zu grinden.

>>515199878
this is so true I understood it without speaking German

>>515197994
>foreigners get big apartments or houses sponsored by the state
i don't believe you.

>>515199753
bro office work in general is braindead. most people in my office have university degrees but they spend 90% of the day doing shit random 18 year olds could do, easily.

the fucking gatekeeping to shit jobs is so bad now. yes bro you need a university degree to do windows support!

uh young people are so lazy! why does no one apply? (meanwhile the job requirements are 17 years of education for some 2200 euro job)
-> this is what makes business owners cry for immigration, the number 1 reason
the fucking gatekeeping
only want the best but pay them the least possible oh my god this is so efficient i coomed my pants heil capitalism

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>>515197994
Working in general is a waste of time in the current, boomer controlled era we live in. Let me give you the rates in Brazil:
>apprenticeship = R$ 900 to R$ 1200, meaning around 150 to 200 €
>office job = R$ 3200 to R$ 5000, meaning around 533 to 833 €
Meanwhile, nigger bums earn around R$ 3200 in gibs.
>inb4 muh different cost of living
I can assure you there is no such difference for things that matter in life, such as buying property, cars, and industrial products. The only difference we might have is that I can buy bananas for a dollar cheaper perhaps.
The only way out from this accepted slavery is being a business owner, but then we'd have to enter into the topic of all the taxes that rape small businesses.

>>515200056
>bro office work in general is braindead.
a top notch AI specialist and the coffee wench at the frondesk are both 'office workers'
it's important to be specific

>>515199878
This

If its just money you can work a dead end Maschinenführer kob and get 3k netto even with Hauptschule

>>515199878
>>515200439
I'm not the smartest person which I have to admit. Bräuchte halt einen Beruf, wo man zu 90% die gleichen Abläufe macht und auch viel verdient.

>>515197994
your fate is to be a slave under jewish rule as written in the holy scriptures

>>515197994
anon, you could stop being a retard
You are what is usually refered to as a "Taugenichts". You arent hired, because of le bad employers but because you cant sell yourself.

I admit, its not a desireable trait. But the other option is being an enterpreneur, something any self respecting person should try to do. Its difficult though.
So ye, dont be a retard and "look for a job".
Sei ein Macher. Do something you find at least somewhat interesting, show "Einsatz" and then upgrade to Selbständigkeit as soon as you feel like you could.

everything else is NPC

So you are telling me you failed your university classes because you were too dumb and lazy to just study, just to do an apprenticeship in a field that no one wants to hire (Bürokaufmann, Industriekaufmann etz) and now you are blaming people that fled from war to this country (which in the great picture is a minuscule amount) that you are a defacto failure?

Wouldn't it be easier to try to erase one of the seven deadly sins from your heart (jelousy) for people who get just enough to sustain living. What would you do then? Masturbate and post on /pol/ all day? How about you fix your life first, before you look at others.

You could have become any blue collar occupation, could have finished university, but yeah muh joos and muh foreigners are at fault for you being lazy and dumb

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>>515199320
>t. looking for someone to blame but myself
Hitler wouldnt be proud.

>>515199156
>here look my cherry picked video accurately represents the German welfare state

All in all it is a (you) problem

Why do all the young Germans travel, is it Jew money they spend

>>515197994
And you will do nothing but whine and cry and moan.

>>515197994
Check Bertelsmann. It's a German corporation. I work there. They have very high employee turnover these days, maybe you can claim a spot. They pay reasonably well but you have to be okay with Indians and LGBT flags in the summer.

What even is this thread about.
You claim that you are not smart nor capable. Why did you end up in an office then. Do a proper apprenticeship and stop complaining

>>515199878
>>515197994
It's the fault of the education system in modern times - it's filled with busywork that doesn't actually educate you or teach you any skills and just gets in the way of learning the skills you need.
At the same time the jobs require you to have the goddamn paper as a prerequisite.
The result is useless graduates with no skills that nobody needs because they were too busy learning outdated or irrelevant bullshit.

I've a good career and I use 0% of knowledge I learned in UNI for my job, all the useful stuff I learned on my own time out of personal and professional curiosity.

>>515199344
where did you spend 14 years for an 11th grade diploma, did you get held back 3 times?

>>515198634
a sta ti je DE, ja radim za minimalnu neto placu tako da me je stid reci kolika su mi primanja.

>>515199878
>Heul nicht rum und fang an zu grinden.
>be a good golem in the system

Not that I blame you for making money, but what is your goal? Money should be a "side hustle". The majority of your energy should go towards family and spirituality (whatever that is for you).

I am making 65k now with an entry level job after I got a M.Sc. in physics. The job costs me little to no energy and I dont aspire to put in more energy as my boss basically admited that this means only a little more money.
So ye, as long as I dont find a way to earn double the money for double the effort (which I think I have) I will not do double the effort for some "maybe more money in the future"

>>515197994
> 2200 Netto
> can't afford own appartment

Anon, please

>>515200718
You know there are engineers who make 120k/y at least, without having to worry for their own company whatsoever. Do you remotely realise how much you have to work in order to sustain your own company compared to working in proper jobs that pay well?

>>515201046
entry level with a master in Physics and only 68k?

You know you get entry level E13 TVV öffentlicher dienst of around 78k/y

>>515200610
Versuch mal bei Miele Reinzukommen oder irgendwo in der Produktion in einer Fabrik.
Wenn du pünktlich bist und niemandem aufn Sack gehst kannst du da auf 3.2k netto im Monat kommen.
Sehe ich persönlich aber nicht als erstrebenswert an, bin aber auch eine eher helle Leuchte.

>>515201046
Agreed. When my salary went from 65k to 80k it had zero effect on my life.

since we're on the subject, how hard would it be for a non native Germ speaker to pass ausbildung? Are there English programs?
Was thinking about learning CNC, my current firm can give me apprenticeship. Seems like the easiest route towards more geld

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>>515201131
schichtarbeit in deutschland kannst du auch vergessen, mit gestiegenen energie und produktionskosten und lieferengpässen haben viele ihre schichtsysteme umgestellt oder herruntergefahren. die 3.2k kommen nur zusammen wenn du im akkord am fließband oder in der produktion stehst. dar dies allerdings meist nur noch 2 wochen im monat sind kannst du den lohn halbieren und die lebenserhaltungskosten belassen.
Investitionen in dieses land und seine industrie bleiben aus was dazu führt dass kaum einer eingestellt wird. Wenn also dann mal arbeit anfällt dann wird diese arbeit auf einen bruchteil der belegschaft verteilt die dann zwar vollen lohn bekommt aber die arbeit von mehreren schichten übernimmt. Es ist alles ein großes jüdische kartenhaus das im inbegriff ist einzufallen.
...
und ich könnte kaum glücklicher sein.

I made like 2.5k last night

>>515201063
I know, those engineers are working 60h/week though.
Further, yes you can get money through work, but good money is made mostly through scamming.

>>515201113
>öffentlicher Dienst
yes I know that. Its not 78k/yr though. E13 TVöD is 58k for entry right now. You can look it up, you dont have to lie.
65k was a reasonable entry when I started a year ago. I got a slight raise.

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>>515201162
>pass ausbildung
>from croatio
so an ausbildung here takes 3 years and in those years your income will go from around 750€ up to 950€ if you can manage to live off that salary for 3 years AND youre going to get taken over by the company for the job you just did and ausbildung for, then you can look at a semi safe job that pays slightly below average. Thats the future perspective german youth has. with you coming from croatia and youre probably going to have to rent with mutiple ppl, i guess it depends on how much "suck" you can endure until its gets slightly more bearable (after 3 years ausbildung)

>>515201493
mach dir mal nicht zu viel Hoffnung ;)
Klar, wird die durchschnittliche Kaufkraft abnehmen. Aber die war davor im internationalen Vergleich schon ziemlich hoch. Einen Zusammenbruch wird es nicht geben, lediglich eine Verarmung der unteren Gesellschaftsschichten und eine größere Lücke zwischen arm und reich.

>>515197994
>>apply for office job apprenticeship
Welcome back I missed your posts thought you finally escaped this shithole. The answer to your question is to invest money and somehow escape wagie life sadly thats a impossible dream nowadays but Germany has always been like this for the lower class you cannot easily move up even if you had a degree you would get net maybe 3k if you earned the double before taxes. And thats before all the healthcare bullshit they are pulling off.
The system will continue the USSR survived 60 years this one can easily do the same.

>>515197994

I was on a trip to Frankfurt (well, just outside) and they had built so many new apartments (too many really...) but anyway when I go back there over the next year or 2 I see they are now finished and full of people. No white people, only arab/turk looking or blacks just hanging around. Where does the money come from for all these buildings, who is paying all the rents? What do these people do all day, they dont speak german or english?

>>515201723
I live in a WG already, am employed in metalwork, and have over 7k€ liquid saved.
Was thinking about going to evening classes after work, and ask my boss if she can put me on a machine for apprentice work. Used to be in a foundry, but am now vorbereitung and QC before montage.
I don't want a nebenjob :(

>>515201723
also I live in gaymoney, am just on mobile data because my faggot company blocks 4chan

>>515201952
the money comes from german taxes, the people that own the land in and around frankfurt get goverment grants for building houses (because state sez were in a lebensraum crisis) and ontop of that if you rent out your newly build flat to a refugee or job seeker youre going to get paid by goverment grants again. so the rich land owners here are getting even richer by syphoning off the money from social systems while also contributing to the displacement of germans already living here.
The root cause of all this BS is jewish legislature enabeling this and jewish owned land owners and building companies.

>>515201578
I worked as an engineer in the öffentlicher Dienst for a power plant. 78k/y entry level.
https://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/c/t/rechner/tv-v?id=tv-v-2026&matrix=12
E13 is 78k/y

Same position in the industry grants me 80+k/y

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>>515202075
The censorship is rough there, noticed that in the UK too, grab a VPN or use new DNS. It fucking sucks 4chan would be blocked but shitholes like Reddit persist

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>>515197994
>>have Fachabitur (vocational diploma)
aka nothing.
it's funny how you're a loser without a university degree in goymany. then people turn around and cry that there aren't enough beginners learning trades and it takes 2 months to get a pro to fix something in your house (if you get ahold of a tradesman at all).

>>515202747
the only think you reall need is to know someone on the inside.

>>515202369
intresting, but sadly not my field. Havent found anything on here https://interamt.de that would fit my education and expirience.
I want to go selbstständig anyway. Currently preparing it with a friend.

>>515200800
ok very informative reply, nice argument. this land is completely broken and this is ... my fault? i dont think so. can i do anything against this? no. if hitler was alive today he would be forced to donate to israel because he made anti jew faceberg posts, get your ideology out of here, its an old corpse.
>>515200388
>a top notch AI specialist
no one in europe is a top notch ai specialist
typing prompts is another job 18 year olds could do

im afraid youre all niggercattle larpers

>>515197994
Wow you figured this out just now? At 27? It took you over a decade to grasp this?

>>515202747
All tradesmen that know their craft work schwarz. with all the regulations and shit to do their jobs its far more lucrative for them to work under the hand instead of doing "official" jobs.
Next time you call a tradesmen, lowkey let him know youre willing to pay off the books, youre gonna be suprised how fast youre shit will be done.

>>515197994
>back to the cage wagie

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>>515197994
>be picril, a Russian
>his SVR legend: a schizo neet on unemployment
>his sekret mission: to spread cultural sabotage on /pol/ & /int/ and increase demoralization among anons
>his methods: passive aggressive bytch threads such as 'I got fired but why?' 'Germany is over' 'why are so many Germans leaving Germany?'

>>515202815
for me it was uni or nothing.
>be me, living in bumfuck nowhere
>hardly any employers within a 50km range in the first place
>apply for a bunch of ausbildungen
>get treated like shit during interviews
>fuck you, and fuck this
>do abitur from home via fernschule
>move into big city for university
>study BWL
>apply for jobs
>suddenly no problem at all, also profit from my future wage being capped at a few cents above minimum wage
really feel for the dummies of society tho. judging by the rising rents it's gonna be like the US where living out of your car despite working a full-time job isn't all that unusual anymore.

>>515203019
Is bumfuck nowhere Germany also browned or is it just the cities?

>>515202825
dont let AI do your monthly taxes, I know self employed ppl that did that and now after an audit owe the state upwards of 500k

>>515203019
>also profit from my future wage *NOT* being capped at a few cents above minimum wage
freudian slip kek.
>>515202983
where i'm originally from that wouldn't work. too many snitches who'd be more than happy to snitch to authorities because they're good obedient little wage slaves.

>>515198253
Oh and jews

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>>515202987
zurück zu /uhg/ mit dir fucking mutt

>>515201918
I thought about self employment so I am financially independent but a long way to go there. That's why I took a job just for now.
>>515202987
I'm not that guy but Germany isn't looking too great.

>>515197994
Working in Germany would be cool and pay a lot but damn it’s like only 60-70 euros a year to be a software engineer? It’s like 120k here to be one and taxes are crazy there I don’t know how you guys do it or maybe I’m just looking at low income jobs.

>>515203085
my bumfuck nowhere town is being actively browned since last year. all the town's social housing is reserved for rapefugees and they've brought a few containers for them to live in near a school. ever since the nearby supermarket has been dealing with nonstop theft lol.

most people living there are horrible bitter boomers so i take quite a lot of schadenfreude from this new development.

>>515203085
cities are browned beyond recognition, small town semi browned (occasional döner shops and tipco betting shops) small villages are barely browned but the states are already distributing the refugees towards these small enclaves.

>>515203241
germs with non-meme degrees are leaving the country because that alone tends to increase your wage by like 30% lmfao.

>>515199320
oldfag means old forum denizen, newfag. you mean boomers or gen x.

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>>515203241
niggers like you should stay in africa 2

>>515197994
Same story everywhere. Also netto is a scam because you then go and pay VAT, petrol tax, etc. out of it. We pay over 50% in taxes, and much higher if you're skilled - instead of deserving more, you pay for more Moroccans.

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>>515203104
>>515203019

le antispam is le good

>>515203085
small cities are still kinda ok. People who live in my area are mostly at least slightly racist.
But ye, browns exist here. A rapefugee shelter is around the corner.

>>515203594
BWL is what you make of it.
like 90% at my uni went for human resources or marketing because they suck at math. unfortunately that turns their degree into a meme degree and they'll be lucky to earn 50k/year at some point.

smart BWL students focus on the FACT modules and then do taxes or become wirtschaftsprüfer or other shit that actually pays money.

>>515203743
this, the only ppl i know from my jahrgang (1990-1995) that own houses work for wirtschaftsprüfunternehmen.

>>515203743
I see, maybe I would do bwl at a Fernuni at a later point in life. Because the math was laughably easy compared to physics.
And yes, good to know that not all BWLs are equal.

>>515197994
You must work kraut so niggers can fuck German women and arabs can have 10 kids to leech off you. Seriously, move to Poland or NEET in Thailand/Spain and maybe think how to make some offshore biz there. If you stay work and pay taxes you are cucked looser, Germany is nothing without Germans. All your sweat will be used to built brown and islamic Germanistan.

>>515203966
dunno how viable that job still is with the prospect of just uploading all your billing data to an LLM and it spitts out graphs and nodes.

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>>515200800
There's a limit after which it's really not about the individual
I think we passed that limit as a society decades ago
When you need to be exceptional to lead a normal life, it's when society falls apart
Could he "make it" by going above and beyond, "hustling", and all that shit? Yes
Is it his fault that everything is stacked against you and in order to lead the most normal of lives you need to apply yourself with levels of efforts that in the 80s would have made you a millionaire? You tell me
Society is composed of 95% of people that just want to get a house, a family, and some peace of mind. Nowadays, that's a pipe dream even for the top 5% of peformers. Something's gotta give.

>>515197994
It's like that everywhere. Depending on your domestic situation and what your parents demand from you if anything at that, you should invest all of your money into mutt stonks, specifically those that will never ever for no reason go down under and that pay regular dividends, such as military or fast food, staples of mutt culture. Keep working and invest everything into these stonks. Choose the ones you want with the help of AI or do it yourself while continuing to live at your folks and building up your net worth, crumb after crumb. Or complain and spend everything every month on entertainment, drugs, women, and gambling, maybe even some type of shitty accommodation that isn't worth the money. Great alternative, innit? Fret not, whatever other HAPPENING™ is surely going to end the world so you don't have to save or build anything at all! Just spend away! Nothing matters! LMAO

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>>515204038
>all your sweat will be used

noone i know barely lifts a finger. Even I post here from work and sleep on the job.

>>515197994

im a foreigner who has been living on Burgergeld/Grundsicherung for the past 7 years. I don't understand why anyone would work in Germany when you can do this, or how the system hasn't collapsed yet lol

>>515203310
This is everywhere in Europe. Differences are minimal. There's an agenda to implement, and they're attacking from every front: nog/mud rapefugees (it's never Asians, we only get the shit, mostly male and ready to rape "15" year old "kids" who are balding), price people out of having kids even with 2 salaries, sterilisation of teens, encouragement of anything that's not husband-wife-kids, foster mixing, promote islam, etc. and complete command of media, education and even equity via ESGs to manipulate opinion and policy, and to cancel dissent. The objective is clear: a docile, divided population of browned worker bees living in pods and kept happy with Netflix and porn, and the dissolution of white peoples and cultures. (((They))) are succeeding.

>>515203966
fernuni hagen has quite a good reputation.
>>515204085
someone is going to have to control the AI though. or come up with legally grey constructs to save taxes for big biz.

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>>515204097
>parents demand
fuck the boomers, kill em all
>choose stonks
the jewish way to profit off the work of others
>use the help of an AI
LLMs cannot predict trends, if some fake website mentions shitcoins disappropriatly more than another one, the "AI" will recomment the shitcoin to you, absolut fucking braindead move
>spend everything on entertainment, drugs and hookers
this is the only winning move

>>515204313
the EU should be dismantled and the sovereignity of every nations should be reestablished. The top jews in den haag are the worst pieces of shit this world has ever seen.

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>>515204338
>or come up with legally grey constructs to save taxes for big biz

thats what lobbiests are for. they create legal loopholes only mega corps can exploit.

>>515204571
lobbyists lay the groundwork, wirtschaftsprüfungsfags execute the (((steueroptimierung))).

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>>515204085
dont overestimate AI
>>515204093
I dont really care about the "I just wanna live my life people" unless they are my wife. Woman arent capable of greater thoughts.
Every man who doesnt live his life to improve his enviroment is asleep at best.

Thinking about "who is to blame" is slave morality. I advocate to think about "what can be done" instead.

Dont missunderstand me, I dont want anyone to be another gear in the jewish system. Positive work is not only possible but also necessary!

Also the quality of people has decreased significantly over the years. Look up american fitness standards from 1960 or so.

>>515203892
best earners from mine (91-95) work in SAP banking (CH) or run the companies their fathers left them. a few with nepotist network connections made it to either of the large consulting firms. (berger, kpmg..) i didn't want a boss or jewish 'evaluation' rituals every year, so i started working as an IBM partner one man show, which went rather well, until jews killed the vibe in 2008. so i moved to switzerland and trained other IBM partners. not nice, as you do their work but only get to charge for presentation days. my wife did an oldfashioned doctor in microbiology and went into pharma, where her income increased above mine in a matter of three years. i now rent out a small vacation home i bought in 2013 and do some IBM stuff on the side. not the outcome i wanted but it keeps me afloat in a nice exclusively white area in germany.

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>>515204138
absolutly based

>>515204097
>>515204339
AI is for analysing the current price, supports, summarise analysts' slop, check company numbers, cash flow, potential tariff impact, etc. But the choice of sector, security and diversification is on you.
Also, buy oversold/overreaction and sell overbought/hype. Take profits. Try to avoid bagholding non-index through bear markets.
Finally, dividends. Dividends mean the company ran out of ideas to invest/develop and gives you back money. You don't prefer this. Only use dist ETFs or dividend-prone companies if you're retired or unemployed, otherwise you need to reinvest peofits and pay more commissions to.
Good luck!

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>>515204888
sehr geile nummern

>>515204952
couldnt you like, generate faster and bigger cashflow betting on rouletttables ? Unless its the rigged ones from vegas with 3 zero fields

>>515199320
I have been thinking about this and I would solve it this way. If you get welfare of any kind you don't get to vote and can't participate in politics either. Voting is only for people who work a certain number of, let's say at least 30, hours a week. Wouldn't probably solve the problem completely, since some people would just "work" at a friends company on paper without actually working there and so on. Clearly there would have to be some kind of state apparatus controlling this, but it would cut down the retarded boomer gibs nigger voters massively. Obviously something like this will never be implemented and they will just raise pensions every year until the country is completely broke and all competent working age people have left for other countries, then the remaining boomers will be eaten by the African cannibals they imported to inflate the prices of their investment apartments, a deserved end.

>>515197994
not only in germany but everywhere
work for 3 days week max, find some shithole house to rent or better live with parents if you can
boomers and stockjews fucked economies around the world for everyone

>>515205257
sure, if you are the bank and rig the game, you could win bigly. forget casinos. i've been guest to rigged poker rounds, where car keys exchanged hands. fucking hilarious to see gambling addicts in action.

>>515205279
Might as well go back to only letting landowners vote with this logic.

>>515206260
Yeah why not, everything is better than letting every retard vote, but to be perfectly honest I think, that even if we would make sweeping changes like this, not much would change with the way the system works. In my opinion we already live in a Dictatorship or Oligarchy, which we only perceive as a democracy or which is sold to us as democracy, simply because a true democracy can't really exist in the first place. I don't believe in democracy at all anymore. I would guess many here still do, but if you do you are simply wrong.

>>515207079
try go into politics and see how far you get before burn out. many have good ideas about what should be. it's ok to dream, but the real bummer is 'how to get there'.

>>515204952
Also forgot to say: mutts steal your dividends now so that's another reason against mutt companies with dividends.
>>515205257
No, because that has under 50% chance to win meaning you lose. You need to place multiple bets on something that's more likely to win than not, so you win overall.
>>515205279
100% agree, but please throw in democracy too (e.g. as in CH with individual policy voting, not red vs blue kike to kike us all). Voting, i.e. power, should be held by taxpayers, for which a minimum net payment on income should be required. If you are a net receiver, e.g. pensioner, rapefugee or lazy, you don't vote. Just like you don't vote in IBM if you have no shares.
Therefore policies are democratically decided by us, and we will want a fair retirement, education for our kids and good health services, but not funnelling every penny into happy voters and welfare hogs.

>>515204751
> I dont really care about the "I just wanna live my life people"
I hate cattle too, but unfortunately they can be leveraged into fucking my life, no matter how much I insulate myself from their retardness. Remember covid? That can and will happen again
People are on average much worse than they used to be. By design. Again, still, you can't disregard them - they can and will be weaponized by psychopaths if you let them have free reign.
When society gets as bad as it is today, you need to worry. Blaming cattle for being abused like the cattle they are doesn't solve anything and makes the kikes work easier.
If you think a bit about it, all that having money grants you is the ability of insulating yourself from the free falling society you're forced to live in - unless you're one of those retards that eats at starred restaurants and that shit. Isn't that fucked up?

>>515198228
Gtfo kike.

>>515201046
I would have a family by now if I could have afforded one in my twenties before I lost all faith in God and Mankind.

>>515207245
>try go into politics
Nah man, you need serious money for that or a some kind of wealthy group or person, pushing you. I am fully aware that I am just dreaming about this or rather I "raunz" about it to my racist anime forum bros.

Still find it weird you guys went all in on Ukraine should keep fighting Russia when your economy cannot mathematically exist without cheap Russian gas.

>>515198228
STFU and go back to Netflix, next dose of nog saves the world show releasing in 5.
>>515207617
Joe and Jane were never brilliant. It's just the elites organised to exploit people's stupidity and trens following more than they ever did. NWO is the new religion.
You need to stay at the top, bare minimum top 10% income but ideally top 2..3%, to have a normal white person non-pozzed life in most places in the West now. It's not an "I don't care", it's an "all I can do", because what else can we do other than be passive-aggressive with the establishment and culture at every step, voice based opinions when not suicidal, vote for the slowest aligned party, raise very based and redpilled kids, and so on? Getting into politics and achieving anything is almost impossible.

>>515201046
>money should be a side hustle
I can only lol at that.
I feed 3 people apart from myself; my wife and 2 sons.
Right now I’m putting money to the side to build a house on my 1 acre land in Poland, making it ready to be self sufficient.
My „goal“ as you would call it is raising my children and sending them out into the world while collecting experience to ultimately take my network with me and open a construction consulting company. Projected end of my grind is in around 15 years. When the kids are grown up, funds set up and company running, wife and I will most likely eject and start travelling and/or moving to our land.

>>515200997
It’s your own fault for going to university for a useless degree that 1 billion Indians and Chinese people already have.
Always easy to blame the „education system“ when you’re just a princess that doesn’t want to work with his hands.

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>>515197994
>be me
>35
>never had a job in my entire life
>never took the vax
>never finished school because I dont listen to dumb jewish pro nigger spam and roasties
>end up having more money than wagecuck losers thanks to crypto and gambling
feels good man

>>515207617
>covid
I hope you didnt miss the one in a lifetime oportunity to go full based mode and be one of a handfull of people who refused to wear masks.
Not saying that I was a FULL gigachad, but from march 2022 an on I have only worn a mask in uni. Not in public transport or stores. And yes, I have only seen 3 people in total who have done the same in my area (during that time) and yes it was illegal. Out of thousands.
This expirience gives you a good hint on how much you overestimate the effect other peoples actions have on you. Yes there was an occasional nigger or bum that would bitch about me not having a mask, but they can be ignored.

>all that having money grants you is the ability of insulating yourself from the free falling society
absolutly, this is why I want money. No other reasons.

>>515207732
>amerimutts
you live on foreign soil and are most likely muttified, what hope can there be for you?

>>515197994
Why don't you geomaxx? We europeans don't move to other countries in europe enough. Consider norway/switzerland if you want to make more or slovenia/baltics/romania if you want a lower cost of living.

>>515197994
but you got an office job, you are not a peasant, your parents should be proud

>>515208565
That's the benefit of being outside the officially employed system. I never even considered getting vaxxed. To me it's only because i don't like needles, i don't think there's any strong evidence for the vax being bad.

>>515208518
>Right now I’m putting money to the side to build a house on my 1 acre land in Poland, making it ready to be self sufficient.
I am doing the same basically, but in Germany and that is also my end goal.
self sufficient on 1 acre? 1 ha is more reasonable.
And until this statement I can follow, but why would you "travel?" Why do you want your children to this retarded "job"?
You said that you want to be self sufficient, yet try to still work in the system.

>>515208787
Office jobs can be hell when you have 1 hour of work assigned to you, but you have to sit in the office for 8. It's quite uncomfortable.

>>515208810
>i don't think there's any strong evidence for the vax being bad.
its shilled by the most vile most disgusting jews and there was no disease to begin with. covid was a big fat jewish hoax to get retard people to take mystery injections.

luckily I could convince dozens of people, mostly close friends and family that are important to me not to take it and so their lifes were spared.
this secures me a comfy seat in the kingdom of heaven.

>>515198344
Mohammed is a faggot.

>>515198203
That would be ALL Jews. Ftfy

>>515198228
Lots of young people experience this exact thing though

>>515200718

Always lie to employers friends

you will say all of this and continue to go to work instead of killing the people responsible
you deserve to suffer

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No shit Sherlock.

Im on welfare since 2015.
I never worked a single day in my life, never paid taxes. Jobcenter pays for all my shit.
I have better living standard than most of minimum wagies.
You are literally retared if you work in the year 2025 and support this shit show and you are also a traitor because you support a system that replace germans with non germans. Wagies get the rope !

>>515208876
Wtf are you talking about? lol I meant 1 ha, 1 Hektar.
I’m not saying I’ll let my children collect experience for me; I am saying while I raise them I’ll collect experience and finish everything as soon as they leave the home.
I never said „I“ want to be self sufficient, I said I am preparing the land to be self sufficient. This is just for the case it’s needed.
I have nothing against the system. It’s just useless and angry people that do.
Never met someone „against the system“ that wasn’t an insufferable prick.
It’s not that it’s the way I’d like it, but I’m still intelligent enough to get myself a comfortable position in the system.

>>515198228
Yeah some antifa green voting shill claiming OP is not right.

>>515209195
Kek at you talking with so much pride and thinking you secured yourself a place in heaven. How arrogant.

>>515197994
start the war with russia. they gonna nuke your ass and you wont have to work and can hide in any left standing building from the gangs of migrants and slowly dying from radiation for free.

>>515209835
>and thinking you secured yourself a place in heaven.
I did because I did the right thing.
meanwhile all the wagecuck vaxtards go to hell for eternity.
I won, jews and wagecucks lost.

>>515208666
Nah my ancestors are just anglos, Satan

>>515209645
>thinks he can prepare a self sufficient house as a side gig
>all people who are against the system are pricks
technocracy fags really are something, lmao.

>It’s just useless and angry people that are against the system
I agree full 100%. But dont disiss the angry ones. They are the future. its a bell curve phenomenon really.
The midwits are pro system and the ones on top and bottom complain. (Ofcourse there are pro system people on top too, but that makes perfect sense)

I can easily sumarize, why I am against the system.
The system seeks power and control over the life of the individual, not controll in the sense of "do this" but control in the sense that the individual is punished for not supporting the system. Even the NEET supports the system, by consuming stuff the others make, so he keeps them busy.

Contrary to that I propose a world where the individual is responsible for his life. He choses the purpose of his existence.

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>>515197994
you mean 1500€ netto, don't forget the mwst and mineralölsteuer :)
Just continue wörking goyim!

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>>515210538
then go back to Britain retard, your life starts there. One can not thrive without roots.
Second trips for me ITT btw.

>>515197994
>receive around 2.200 € netto (after taxes)

Be grategul you have parents you idiot.
You save for 5 years thats easily 90000€
enough for a down payment for your own house or appartment.

Can a refugee do the same?

>>515208518
You sound like an absolute slave. You're hiding behind your wife and kids pretending carrying them on your back gives you unearthly satisfaction. I can instantly see how miserable you are even if ur shartpost is true.

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>>515210601
I wasnt clear enough I think

The system manipulates people to join it, it puts itself in the position of "Selbstzweck", people from the perspective of the system are working ants, or a resource. Yes people must have somewhat enjoyable lifes for the system to work too, so you might say that the people benefit from it. But I would say that its rather the dream of a happy life that keeps most people in the system and not a real happy life. And I argue that this dream is an illusion.

Show me a person who says that he "made it". I am waiting. The only people I saw that claim to have made it a gardeners that can live of their crops and animals. Or in other words, people outside the system.

You will always consider us "pricks" or "wierd" or whatever, but that is again a manipulation of the system.

how do you people lose a job and then survive for like half a year without one?
You just have that big of a savings?

If I lost my job we would be homeless in the time it takes the bank to kick us out. I'd have to sell whatever I could and move the family into a van and live off ramen and we might make it 4 months at that point. I make 152k a year after tax.

>>515211239
having wife and kids can be heaven

>>515202987
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there are so many Russian and Chinese anti-West demoralization trolls on /pol, seems like 50% of the posters at times, they are a real cancer

>>515204097
good advice, if you are living with parents and have any job at all, doing mutt stock research and investment is a good side hustle with long term benefits that anyone could do, can confirm

>>515198478
>14 years school for fachbi
what are you talking retard, it used to be 13 years, now it's 12.

>>515211239
You’re projecting your anger unto me because you instinctively compare yourself to me and see me as superior; most likely because you have not amounted to anything in your life.
Do you have children? If not please STFU and try to not disgrace your ancestors.

>>515211398
Yeah yeah I thought that way too when I just came out of school and was angry at the world.
That’s when I bought the land.
And I’ve NEVER seen a „gardener“ that has „made“ it with a genuine smile on their face. They’re miserable because they have to wake up every day at 5am to milk the cows + they can never leave the land for longer than a day because all their animals need to be taken care of.
Don’t get me wrong, being self sufficient and living in nature is very nice and can ultimately be a goal, but there’s a whole lot of opportunity for everyone, especially for my children to do what THEY WANT when they grow up instead of being forced to help on my fucking farm lol.
I am grinding so my sons can decide what they want to do with their lifes.
I grew up extremely poor and had to fight tooth and nail for everything I have.
What you’re talking about is merely a symptom of your privilege in this world.

>>515211398
And with the text you wrote you just showed me how insufferable you are by spouting the same teenage puberty speak everyone does that’s too stupid or proud to leverage a good position in this system.
That’s what I meant by insufferable, they (you) think you’re morally so much better and have it all figured out, thinking everyone has slave mentality but not YOU. Well guess what, it’s all theoretical, and until you have something to show off you’re not better than some Karl Marx sitting in a cafe jerking himself off over how morally superior he is

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>>515198428

OP is not german
he knows nothign about Germany
he makes the same thread for years

>>515211468
No. In Germany you basically get your apartment and heating paid, plus when you’re fired you get 60% of your last pay for 1 year. If you quit yourself, you get like 500-600€ plus your apartment no string attached. Some people just have no recurring payments like you Americans do with your 500€ car credits and 200€ TV contracts and whatever you have.

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>>515212510
>I am grinding so my sons can decide what they want to do with their lifes.
I respect that
>What you’re talking about is merely a symptom of your privilege in this world.
I have thought about that a couple times, I have it much easier and have a lot more opportunities then my parrents because my parrents thought how you think.
However, I think that this life in the technological society we expirience right now is bound to make people miserable. There is no solution that involves keeping it.
You have your dreams and I have mine. It doesnt matter who is right. The important thing is to be on the right path as a bloodline.

Have a good one anon, I like your style.

>Well guess what, it’s all theoretical, and until you have something to show off
I would argue that I have something to show off, how many people have bought a house 3 years after finishing uni?
How many people have a wife that gave birth twice before 30 years of age?
How many people have a M.Sc.?

The only thing I say, is that achievements that are only valueable inside the system are not as valueable as people think. And the final goal can only be to leave the system.

>you pretend to be moraly superior
I dont pretend, I know for a fact that I am. Covid years are proof. And I dont say I am Marx style superior. I am Nietzsche style superior.

That is not entirely my achievement. my parrents and also theirs have done a lot to put me in the position to have the potential to elevate. Using this potential is my achievement and I think I am doing it well.

>>515210641
That's a fucking stupid pic, anon.

>>515213333
We are actually more alike than you think.
I commend you.
I think the main difference between you and me is that I’ve tried that „aussteigen“ shit already and it’s just a pain in the ass, or rather eine Fantasie, compared to the life we have right now.
I would not wanna defend the system but I can’t really attack it either because I DO live comfortably and can decide for myself whether I’m happy with the things I have or not. Ultimately it boils down to what you do about it.
For me I realised there’s no point fighting the tiger or running from it, it’s a lost battle. Just ride it until it’s exhausted and enjoy the fruits of your labour.
My work is actually fun and very fulfilling, and I like being able to buy whatever I want and whatever weird times.
I like having warm water on demand and heating, because I grew up in miserable conditions on a farm in Yugoslavia.

About your point with the achievements. No one cares about any of your achievements apart from yourself.
The farm in a rural forest somewhere in bumfuck Thüringen only has value to you, too, because it aligns with what you want out of your life.

Gottes Segen mein Freund, und viel Erfolg bei dem was du planst.

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>>515197994
>Fachabitur
Fuck Abitur? Fuck work? I like the name of that degree.

>>515211468
>I make 152k a year after tax.

Kek
80% of the people here make less than 15K a year.
I would say after tax but most of those don't even pay tax at all.

However we have something called
>Subsídio de Desemprego
>Unemployed Subsidy (?)

That means that if you work a low paying job and earn 800€ a month not only do you not pay taxes but if you get unemployed you earn 4 or 5 hundred euros without doing shit.
It's complicated.
But after thinking about tansport and the cost of food (if you work you have to eat out or bring food with you) for many of the poorest people here they earn more by not working at all and just collecting that benefit.

Now think about the shitskin immigrants who live in a small house with 10 others so they pretty much pay an irrisory amount for rent.
And it's even worse because they don't care how bad their living conditions are because they were certainly worse back home.

Now these people come here, work for a few months and then decide to not work more and collect that benefit.
And then they send half of it back home. And go ask for additional benefitts for each child or whatever else they need.

I blame the jews and the Americans for this.

>>515214059
it's called the 'poverty trap' and has been a successful d&c strategy for a long time. nothing wrong with supporting the ones who have fallen ill or injured, but they are used to pass wealth from the community straight into jewish pockets. why care if your rent goes up, when the community pays for it. and what would be more desirable to a jew than useless shitskins creating more such trapped people and fresh debt. state of the world, grim.

>>515197994
not good, germans should be able to earn enough to pay me reparations

>>515211196
Yes since they get sponsored by the state.

>>515213908
not meaning to brag, but I was blessed with gets ITT. 888,666 and not 3333.
I fully understand that we are pretty much the same. I honestly think that we are just one generation apart in term of the development of our bloodlines. My fathers says essentially the same things as you do.
>Just ride the tiger
I couldnt read that book, it was to boring honestly.

>fighting the tiger or running
I dont think I am doing either of that. The tiger is allready exhausted and it doesnt have much power over its subjects. People who try to get out, can do so if they fully understand what they do.

I think it is time to build life in all its facetes according to my own beliefs. Not riding tigers or setting up future generations to be able to chose what to do with their life that.
I do not want my children to "do what I am doing", I want them to solve their own problems and I think that keeping all the poison that the system gives us away from them is exactly the right thing to do.

>The farm in a rural forest somewhere in bumfuck Thüringen only has value to you, too, because it aligns with what you want out of your life.
>No one cares about any of your achievements apart from yourself.
This sounds reasonable and from a materialistic or atheistic world view it certainly is. But I do believe that I am doing something greater then that, namely healing the world. Not by demanding people to drive electric cars or eat less meat, but by setting an example. Also I do believe that my actions are beneficial to the enviroment which should not be underestimated.

>Gottes Segen mein Freund, und viel Erfolg bei dem was du planst.
Dir Ebenso, es ist ein Zeugnis des Guten, dass es Männer wie dich gibt.

>>515197994
I'm soryyyy

>>515215070
earnings require some product and a demand for it. since you're not really into industrially producing anything, how about letting us have your copper, and maybe 50% of former german territory. we might come to some agreement then.

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>>515197994
>Working is a waste of time in Germany

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>>515197994
>>cant afford an apartment or house in my town so I still live with parents at home
>>meanwhile foreigners get big apartments or houses sponsored by the state and Agentur für Arbeit (job center) while not even working
Ooohhh nut crackaaaaaa

>>515208666
> I hope you didnt miss the one in a lifetime oportunity to go full based mode and be one of a handfull of people who refused to wear masks.
Never vaxxed
Never tested
But I did wear a mask. Not before someone with a gun and the ability to fine me forced me though.
I will never forgive, I will never forget. Every vaxxie is a fucking enabler, they learned nothing, and they will do it again.
And that's why it's so important that society keeps being livable for lowlifes like that
Yeah make millions, hustle it, then the wef faggots in charge decide to communist your ass and all the vaxxies that have nothing and depend on the state 100% will clap like seals from the sidelines while they steal all you've built.

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>>cant afford an apartment or house in my town so I still live with parents at home
>>meanwhile foreigners get big apartments or houses sponsored by the state and Agentur für Arbeit (job center) while not even working

>>515197994
Same everywhere in Europe i think.
Local pay taxe, migrants get free stuff.

>>515197994
>>earn 3.200 € brutto (before taxes) and receive around 2.200 € netto (after taxes)
Thats what a registered nurse earns in Finland, but you dont even have an education and your job is bullshit.

>>515215424
Yeah have fun keeping the poison away.
What you inevitably end up doing is raising kids that get crushed by reality as soon as you take their Stützräder off because they don’t know of the horror of this reality.
In my opinion it’s better to guide them through it and compensating all the bad stuff away.
In the end I‘d like children that will make better decisions than I did and not clueless humans softlocked on a farm somewhere because daddy wanted to play parallel reality.
It’s a thing I’ve seen too often. Kids raised by Aussteiger coming in contact with the real world and immediately losing themselves in ideologies, their passions (lust, sloth) and rebelling against their parents because they „took“ all of this away from them.

>>515197994
>earn 3.200 € brutto (before taxes) and receive around 2.200 € netto (after taxes)
>cant afford an apartment or house in my town so I still live with parents at home
What the fuck are you doing with your money.

>>515213142
>basically get your apartment and heating paid
what does that mean?
Who pays for it? The state? Only when you're fired or for everyone?
If I were to get fired I'd have about 5k in bills to pay in under a month, every month. At least with the mortgage I could probably call and have them push a payment back a month, but they don't like to do that even though it effectively just gives them another month of interest, you'd think they'd be ok with it.

>>515199320
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>>515207450
in the past most european country banned soldiers from voting.
Banning people who dont pay taxes should be possible.

>>515217852
Sorry I could have communicated this better. If you don’t work, there’s something called „Bürgergeld“ or „Citizens Money“.
You get an apartment paid up until 600€ or something and get an extra few hundred bucks a month.
Wtf are you paying 5k a month for? You should DRASTICALLY cut down lol.
I am the sole earner with a wife and 2 children and I need 1.2k a month MAX if worse comes to worst.

>>515216242
Man shut the fuck up lol you know you wouldn’t have gotten shot by refusing to wear the mask and if you were the chad you believe yourself to be you would have taken the fine and said fuck you to the policeman. You lost your spine, too alright?

>>515197994
Same thing in every EU country, unfortunately. Go to Switzerland or Norway where its still comfy

>>515203392
Even with my meme degree the amount of income tax is pay is absurd. The state really found a way to tax the same dollarino three times.

yall get off work at like 2pm anyway

>>515213994
you pronounce -ch like a cat that hisses or as if you have a hair in your mouth.