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Vaporized?
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>>515210002
They cleaned it up anon
It was quite a while ago
I'd assume they, like, bagged it up and chucked it in the bin
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>>515210002
there were no floors because the twin towers, for the most parts besides the lobby and skydeck restaurant were empty props.
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>>515210002
I'm old enough to have visited it, and there were at least 8 floors that I went to over several years. That's as much as I can say with certainty I guess
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>>515210181
>there were no floors
So what next? You will start saying that there was no airplanes?
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>>515210410
>at least 8 floors

at least 4 missing nubs
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>>515210002
Try not to explain how jet fuel melts steel beams, that's impossible.
Instead, only try to realize the truth, then you will see, it's not the steel beams that bent, it was only yourself.
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>>515210576
Have you ever been to a tall building before? Elevators often have a separate set of most commonly used buttons when there are 60+ floors
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>>515210505
yes there were no airplanes, they used something called "real time full motion alpha keying", which basically adds another layer on top of the videolayer of the TV feed.
then all they have to do is aim the cameras at the towers and movie magic will make it look as if a plane is flying into the tower.
its actually very basic video editing that they did.
thats also why the livestream had like a 20 seconds delay.
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>>515210410
>there were at least 8 floors
Where?
> I can say with certainty
just with a guess, right?

I can se "crude oil" pipes
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>>515210954
Thank you for suggesting to imagine
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Only one explanation, but the shills won't touch it https://www.bitchute.com/video/GmCGsL2IvWCC
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>>515210576
Do you know know what an express elevator is? You thought this was a gotcha, but it just illustrates what a backwards retard you are.
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>>515211327
nukes are fake and gay tho and clearly they did something else, some sort of chemical reaction happened to the material that the towers were made of.
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>>515211069
Oh is that right?

https://youtu.be/7hApRZ_7v2A

https://youtu.be/kMOvlrT-AFc
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>>515211148
Look "crude oil" as a main source of energy dropping from the sky right in to the pipes
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>>515211540
>plane has a different approach in every video indicating it was pasted in
yup
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>>515211357
>Do you know know what an express elevator is?
jew shills repeat that meaning in every 9/11 thread. In reality there is no such a thing ...

well, of cause the only one exception WTC according to jews on pol

jews on pol
https://youtu.be/4xl30Re1EUI
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>>515211327
No one will touch this , are you kidding me?
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>>515210118
you're trying to reason with an OP that believes the Holocaust couldn't have happened because the Nazis couldn't have incinerated that many bodies so quickly
it's rather pointless to even reply to someone so stupid
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>>515211540
Airplanes do not use jet fuel ...

compressed air used
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>>515212020
Is that same kike?
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>>515211391
>nukes are fake and gay tho
Israeli talking point... wanna tell us something Mr. 'German'?
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>>515212020
>Holocaust couldn't have happened

How dear you? there is evidence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZgivA2ENvY
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>>515212384
>>nukes are fake and gay tho
https://youtu.be/MkB0n8tk-FA

Fear with Nuclear Weapons
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>>515211675
What a retard
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>>515211675
It was pasted in over the missiles which hit WTC 1 and 2. It's also obvious a missile hit the Pentagon as well.
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>>515212539
Explain how WTC's 1 and 2 evaporated into dust without nukes (you never will).
Meanwhile underground nuclear explosions explain the buildings collapse perfectly, as proven in video in my first post.
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>>515211357
Kek...

Of cause I am serious, I have to challenge your mind to think other ways you don't.

https://youtu.be/y6XpCpbOYD8

Power Lines Really Harvesting Atmospheric Energy
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I heard the rubble was immediately or as fast as possible shipped out and buried so no testing could ever be done on it
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>>515212739
Sand nigger did it. Look, we find goat lover passport.

kek
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>>515213056
Because nuclear radiation would have been evident in the rubble. There's a reason there were fires burning under the WTC for months after 9/11; the underground nukes which sent off the explosion couldn't be cooled properly without blowing the jig.
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>>515213056
No, valuable metal was "shipped" by trucks.
There was no debris at all. Well, accept Saudi Arabian passport of cause.
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>>515212739
>Explain
Means please suggest to imagine

watch videos about controlled demolition, that happens in real life

https://youtu.be/cdzasTYIdQQ

skyscrapers
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>>515214228
9/11 wasn't a controlled demolition. The first 3/4 of the buildings straight up turned to dust, despite being mostly steel. The top 1/4th of the building collapsed on top of the dustified part, completely unscathed, with zero resistance, as if the bottom 3/4ths of the buildings had just evaporated. You will NEVER find a controlled demolition that looks anything like 9/11.
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>>515210621
there was no jet fuel either Se this:
>>515212136
... and try to think ...
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>>515214774
>with zero resistance,
correct
>controlled demolition
correct , there is on video actual explosive placed inside of towers
>steel beams
was collected directly after , on the trucks and out, because that has value.
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>>515214774
>You will NEVER find
Yes you will , but you are fucking shill leading away from significant point
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>>515212384
>Israeli talking point
its jews who shill the nuke hoax everywhere. why would I believe them?
jews lie about everything, about the moon landing, about covid, 9/11 so why would nukes be real?
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>>515215541
Post a controlled demolition that looks anything like 9/11. I won't leave the thread, so take your time.
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>>515215872
https://youtu.be/MkB0n8tk-FA

Fear with Nuclear Weapons
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>>515215872
>its jews who shill the nuke hoax everywhere. why would I believe them?
The entire "nukes are a hoax" PSYOP started shortly after 9/11 for a reason; it was to cover up the events of that day. The only reason you've been misled to disbelieve in a basic scientific fact is because Jews have worked tirelessly for decades, shilling the "nukes aren't real" PSYOP to confused 9/11 truthers who were never fortunate enough to find Dimitri Khalezov's work.
>jews lie about everything, about the moon landing, about covid, 9/11 so why would nukes be real?
That line of reasoning doesn't hold, considering Jews are the very ones pushing the "nukes are a hoax" PSYOP on you in order to cover up Israel's chief involvement in 9/11. Most likely another major power was involved, probably Russia, but Israel was obviously the chief party; they are the only people allowed to serve in the US government and military despite being dual citizens of another country, after all. And we all know Israel benefited from 9/11 immensely.
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>>515216054
>You need = you post
I don't, it is easy to find and there is plenty
I have no time it is irrelevant to ENERGY hoax
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>>515216410
I accept your concession. Neutral observers, please note that he couldn't post a single controlled demolition that looks anything like 9/11, while hiding his location the entire time and typing in broken English. (((Where))) do you think this guy is from?
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>>515210002
All a distraction from what actually happened.
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>>515210621
That kid has grey pubes now.
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>>515216408
All people have memes in their minds...
admit you too (!) so if ...doesn't counts as argument

...it just a tip of Iceberg... <-- it is a meme

Meme is something repeated often enough passing by your rationality check . You believe , because you remember and not because you understand.

Got it ?
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>>515216648
>All a distraction from what actually happened.

Yes it is. Believe because remember people jumping out of non existing office floors

Those jumpers are on video too ...

Movie about 9/11 was made, before it actually happen. think about it.
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>>515216648
>All a distraction from what actually happened.
I am with you on that
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>>515216648
>All a distraction from what actually happened.

kek
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>>515217276
>QUICK, A GOYIM EXPOSED OUR 9/11 COVER UP! POST PURE UNADULTERATED GARBAGE IN THE THREAD TO BURY HIS POSTS!
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>>515217365
fuck off shill
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>>515212020
those in jpg are victims of holodomor not holocaust though
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>>515212020
You belong to the group of people that believe in:
>Human soap
>Human skin lamp
>Shrink heads
>Death rollercoasters
>Electric human desintegration baths that make bodies disappear like that one weapon from Stargate
>death masturbation machines
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>>515216408
nukes are still fake and gay no matter how hard you cope jew boy
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>>515217541
Kill yourself Israel Gaslightowitz
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>>515218701
You've contributed zero to the thread Mr. "German", and anyone with a brain will notice you're just distracting.
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>>515218802
are you jewish? write something offensive about the jewish religion or something.
lets see if you can convince us.
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well poisoning thread
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>>515216648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N72U-NFu44k
>Standing here
>I realize
>You are just like me
>Trying to make history

>But who’s to judge
>The right from wrong
>When our guard is down
>I think we’ll both agree

>That violence breeds violence
>But in the end it has to be this way

>I’ve carved my own path
>You followed your wrath
>But maybe we’re both the same

>The world has turned
>And so many have burned
>But nobody is to blame

>Yet staring across this barren wasted land
>I feel new life will be born
>Beneath the blood stained sand
>Beneath the blood stained sand
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>>515219001
Can you read? I've been linking Israel to 9/11 this entire thread, fucking retard.
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>>515219059
From everyone that isn't me? Sure. But I just gave you the best documentary to ever be made about 9/11. If you ignore it there's a 99.9% chance your understanding of the event will be normie tier.
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>>515219442
nah, you're good
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>>515219226
Look, another Kike on a German VPN desperately trying to bury my posts.
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>>515219386
so can you do what I asked you to do?
or is it because you are jewish?
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>>515211069
This poster is the most obvious psyop.
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>>515219775
and you are the most obvious jewish shill
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>>515211327
nukes in the basement did not and could not cause a collapse at the impact point on the upper floors
you've got to be legitimately retarded to believe it
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>>515219523
Not a kike and no VPN, didn't mean to burry any post.
Just saw the picture and thought well is the text not kinda fitting in a way.
I also remembered that we never got the full MGS2 because they had to cut out parts as it released shortly after 9/11.
A story in which a former president,with the help of the current president and a rogue military group ends up smashing a giant submarine into New York, which all turns out was a plan designed by the shadow government that manipulates US politics and elections.
A submarine containing a super computer and AI created with the purpose to decide the context of how we have to perceive certain information.
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>>515210621
>Try not to explain how jet fuel melts steel beams
Steel doesn't have to be heated all the way to melting point to lose structural strength.
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>>515219755
Yes, it's the main job of every Jewish shill to expose Jewish PSYOPs in granular detail to normies, after all.
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>>515213056
there was some materials testing done
nist determined originally that the max temp experienced of any piece they tested was 470F
this was later revised a little upward because 470 isnt even a quarter of the way to melt point and not enough to cause a significant change in tensilt strength
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>>515220189
The video explains this in granular detail, thanks for proving you didn't fucking watch.
If any Anon wants this red herring explain, just watch the documentary. It's explained thoroughly in there as one of the main points of the entire video. That's why this cock sucker is posting this.
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>>515220236
Yeah. Not relevant at all, right?
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>>515220279
Steel throughout 3/4ths of the structure was completely dustified, retard. It didn't melt, it essentially evaporated. That's nukes 100%.
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>>515220236
9/11 was a joint military operation between Israel and most likely Russia, if not, then China. It had nothing to do with the US government, except for the dual Israeli citizens that helped stab us in the back of course. Lemme guess, you watched too much Alex Jones back in the day, right?
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>>515220513
I posted a video which explains this as one of the main parts of the documentary. You are too lazy to watch it, yet you want to run your mouth. Typical from armchair wannabe truthers.
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>>515220454
I watched that garbage forever ago
the video never demonstrates how the effects of the blast magically got transported 90 floors up
collapsing the core columns would not produce that effect
you are physics retarded and so is anyone else who believes a nuke in the fucking basement caused this
reminder that dr judy wood is the only person with a reasonable hypothesis about what took place
(now why dont you kvetch about her not describing the device that did it and call it fake because she doesnt know what sort of device did it, but only described effects and what would be possible from various sources of destruction)
you are a well poisoning faggot who doesnt understand physics
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>>515220719
Israel and Arab's

If Russia was involved they would have denied Israel,but called out Russia
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>>515220583
>It didn't melt, it essentially evaporated.
this is correct
>That's nukes 100%.
this is a massive assumption and is not consistent with the laws of physics and video evidence
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>>515220189
If you want an explanation of this, go to 1 hour and 24 minutes into this video https://www.bitchute.com/video/GmCGsL2IvWCC

If you want to fully understand, you need to rewind an additional 10 minutes or so, but you will get the gist of it if you start it at my timestamp.
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>>515220879
I'm a no-planer, bro.
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>>515220905
>the video never demonstrates how the effects of the blast magically got transported 90 floors up
Yes it does, in granular detail, fucking liar. Anyone can watch it now, and see this guy is a fucking liar.
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>>515220583
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>>515221043
>we can just ignore the outer structure and postulate that the core columns were the key, despite it being well known that a high % of load was supported by the perimeter
>it has to be this because I refuse to consider any technologies that are not mainstream and well known by the public
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>>515221037
>this is a massive assumption and is not consistent with the laws of physics and video evidence
The documentary I posted explains the physics behind it and contains video evidence of his claims whenever possible. More lies.
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>>515221171
I posted this earlier but since you're so fucking lazy here it is again
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>>515221117
>nooooooooooooooo if there were any technologies, we the public know about all of them, so we can only consider techs that the public knows about
>there's no evidence of anyone ever keeping any technology secret
kys you physics retarded faggot
>but this guy here says
its fake and gay, you may not like it, but you should just accept it so as not to appear like a well poisoning shill
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>>515221273
>there were cancers so its gotta be nukes
>nevermind the entire structure being coated with asbestos
yet another failure on your part
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>>515210002
>1.8 million tons of debris hauled away
>it was all dust
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>>515220979
I doubt myself that Israel shot the 3 missiles used for WTC 1, WTC2 and the Pentagon, and I think only Russia or China could have pulled that off (with Israel's help of course). Israel is highly linked to Russia btw, most of Israel's prime ministers and major leaders were Eastern Europeans.
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>>515221441
Now post the 3/4ths of the building that was so dustified that the top half could fall into it at free fall speed, fucking troll
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>>515210002
This is what you get with suitcase nukes.
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>>515212620
thats the exit hole
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>>515221424
>asbestos
No doubt it contributed, but it doesn't explain things such as fires burning for months after the attacks, DEEP IN THE BASEMENT OF WTC 1 and 2 ... hmmmm
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>>515212739
>Explain how WTC's 1 and 2 evaporated into dust without nukes (you never will).
because they didnt.
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>>515221644
An aluminum plane couldn't cause that exit hole. Not the right material, not going fast enough.
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>>515213056
>so no testing could ever be done on it
welp. you heard wrong
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>>515221687
>again there's just no tech that could do this aside from nukes
>we'd know for sure if there were other techs because we the public know about all available technology
you're just losing this battle
and the funny part is you probably think you're winning
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>>515221726
So explain how the top 1/4th of the building collapsed into its own footprint at freefall while the bottom 3/4th of the building poof'd away in a puff of smoke
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>>515210002
I went there in 2003 and it was just a massive hole in the ground
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>>515221801
incredulity is a logical fallacy. plenty of plane debris found in the pentagon
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>>515210002
>the goyim are spreading information on Israeli involvement in 9/11!!!
>deploy the memeflags to poison the well
>yes sir!!!
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>>515221966
>collapsed into its own footprint at freefall
this is not a factual statement. It didnt fall at free fall speed and didnt fall into its own footprint- they fell down but well outside of their own footprint damaging dozens of other buildings in the process.
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>>515221944
Ok Jacob Gaslightowitz Israelstein!
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>>515222284
what is this obsession with dust? have you ever watched a building collapse? there is ALWAYS a lot of dust.

Once the top portion fell on to the floor below- the rest was inevitable. Did you expect the floor below to withstand 15 floors collapsing on it? thats not logical.
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>>515222013
Again, explained in granular detail in the video I posted that it's impossible for a plane to have hit WTC 1, WTC 2, or the Pentagon. Any neutral Anons can see for themselves that these cock suckers are shitting up the thread.
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>>515210002
You got it all wrong man. There were never any towers at all. The only Towers built were built on the bottom of the flat earf and we all know nobody can penetrate the firmerment. The underneath towers reflect off the dome to appear to exist and when the robot birds attack Jesus comes back, duh.
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>>515213056
Let's safely ignore all the scrap metal and beams that were sent to practically every fire station in the country that were set up as memorials.
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>>515222703
>Did you expect the floor below to withstand 15 floors collapsing on it?
What triggered the collapse of the top 1/4th of the building and why didn't it meet any resistance by other 3/4th of the building? And why did both towers collapse in exactly this same manner? What caused building 7 to collapse in exactly this same manner as well?
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>>515222975
All from the top 1/4th of the building, which wasn't exposed to any of the nuclear radiation, as explain (in granular fucking detail yet again) in the video I posted, you disgusting Feddies.
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So 9/11 was basically a coup d'état by the usual suspects, wasn't it?

Kinda like what happened with JFK. Amazing what these people keep getting away with.
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>>515222112
That image lacks lizard people
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>>515223329
Yes, but the usual suspects somehow got most conspiracy retards thinking that the US government was somehow involved in this intricate attack ... on itself. Fuck Alex Jones and all the sellouts that pushed that narrative.
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>>515222981
>What triggered the collapse of the top 1/4th of the building and why didn't it meet any resistance by other 3/4th of the building?
if you are diligent, you will notice both collapses of the WTC1&2 began precisely at the spot of the plane impacts. Would would suggest the impacts of the planes and the resulting fires triggered the collapses.

>why didn't it meet any resistance by other 3/4th of the building
You are thinking about it wrong. Think about the floor below the upper portion that collapse. If that foor couldnt stop the collapse then why would you expect other floors to make it stop? Once the floor below the collapsing portion failed, the rest was inevitable.

WTC7 did not collapse in the same manner. WTC1&2 exploded while #7 imploded. It was damged by falling debris and had fires buring unfought for 8hrs.
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>>515223056
>nukes are fake- no wait the only vaporize certain things!
kill yourself retard you cant aim a nuclear explosion of any size
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>>515222816
>it's impossible for a plane to have hit WTC 1, WTC 2, or the Pentagon.
exlain this...in granular detail

https://youtu.be/miA8Td4oNcY?si=flbAod2P2QDBEppU&t=49
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>>515223792
>You are thinking about it wrong. Think about the floor below the upper portion that collapse. If that foor couldnt stop the collapse then why would you expect other floors to make it stop? Once the floor below the collapsing portion failed, the rest was inevitable.
Explained in the video in *que the music* GRANULAR. FUCKING. DETAIL.
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>>515223598
>the US government was somehow involved in this intricate attack ... on itself.
I believe it because it's true. Read your own history, American. Especially about the "Yellow Press".
The US has performed false flag attacks on itself multiple times in the past two centuries to justify a war.

The Spanish-American war aka The Cuba War is a good example.
The US government blew up the Maine, that was full of Chinese sailors it didn't give a shit about, to justify the war and take Cuba.
It's likely that they did the same thing to get in WW1.

The USG killing its own people in false flags to get in wars is a long standing tradition at this point.

Sorry if I shattered your fragile trust in your own government, but it is a perfectly reasonable theory.
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>>515223792
It was an underground nuke detonated in zero oxygen, they knew exactly how far it would travel and how, hence both towers collapsing in the same exact fashion. And again, lmfaoOoOoooO, explain by the video I posted... in GREAT DETAIL...
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>>515224105
I agree but the US government wouldn't have nuked itself twice and shot a missile at the Pentagon. It was obviously a foreign government. See how cucked the US became after 9/11? It's because 9/11 was partially a threat.
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>>515224241
>people ran out and planted plane debris real quick
lol
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>>515224656
Yeah man an aluminum plane traveling at mediocre speeds can pierce steel columned buildings, but the military wastes all that time procuring Tungsten and depleted uranium and shooting it at Mach 5 in order to pierce tank armor. (killyourselfjew)
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>>515224903
>Yeah man an aluminum plane traveling at mediocre speeds can pierce steel columned buildings, but the military wastes all that time procuring Tungsten and depleted uranium and shooting it at Mach 5 in order to pierce tank armor.
this is so insanely retarded i don't believe you are a real person
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>>515224903
>incredulity
>using a logical fallacy as an argument
>cant rebut the visual evidence contrary to his beliefs
>doubles down on cognitive dissonance
many such cases, sad!

you're not very good at this
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>>515225184
Explain why they do this
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>>515210002
In the retired fresh kills landfill. The landfill is now a park, it was decommissioned.
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>>515225220
Lemme guess the passports from the muh brownoids that fell from the planes pass your smell test too right? Commit suicide.
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>>515225503
Again with the incredulity. Just cuz you dont think something should happen doesnt mean it didnt or cant- thats a failure of logic on your part. Lots of paper debris rained down and didnt burn. Lots of plane parts blew out of the building and landed on the streets below.

I noticed you conviently neglected to address this video lol. (are you even capable of admitting you are wrong?) >>515223859
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>>515225792
Explain how an aluminum plane traveling at 600 mph pierced this, but you need specialized materials fired at Mach 5 (3836 MPH) to pierce simple tank armor?
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>>515222220
>hurr durr 99% of freefall speed is not freefall speed
>durrrrr the directly adjacent buildings were hit with some debrtis so its not footprint
kys moshe
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>>515225503
they found personal belongings and baggage from other passengers on the plane as well.
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>>515222284
>I'm btfo, I will now call you a jew
I accept your concession
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>>515222703
>Did you expect the floor below to withstand 15 floors collapsing on it? thats not logical.
reminder that the WTCs were built on bedrock
and had a smaller seismic signature than the superdome's demolition, which was not built on bedrock
you either understand this or you dont
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>>515223598
>PNAC had nothing to do with the US government!
post nose
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>>515226349
>>515226381
Kikes trying so hard to get the last word in to "save face" in this thread. None of you can explain how an aluminum plane traveling at 600 mph pierced this, but you need specialized materials fired at Mach 5 (3836 MPH) to pierce simple tank armor ...
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>>515223691
look at this commission report retard
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>>515224078
>MY FANTASY THAT ISNT CONSISTENT WITH PHYSICS IS EXPLAINED IN GRANULAR DETAIL
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>>515226572
That's a fair point you made on that one, but I hope you can understand what I'm trying to say. It's for sure that at least Israel and most likely one other foreign government was involved. Of course traitors in our government were heavily involved, I just know for a fact it wasn't an overarching US government conspiracy.
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>>515225973
how come you never address the point I make that contradict you beliefs...instead just ignor ethe facts and move on the the next incredulous claims. Its very disingenous of you and lose what very little credibility you had to begin with lol

>>515225973
>Explain how an aluminum plane traveling at 600 mph pierced this
Did you expect it to bounce off? You can shoot a ping pong ball thru a paddle if its going fast enough.

>120 ton plane
>traveling 400+mph
gee...I wonder.
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>>515226669
>Explain how an aluminum plane traveling at 600 mph pierced this, but you need specialized materials fired at Mach 5 (3836 MPH) to pierce simple tank armor?
Explain how an aluminum plane traveling at 600 mph pierced this, but you need specialized materials fired at Mach 5 (3836 MPH) to pierce simple tank armor???? C'mon Mr. Physics, this should be EZ!
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>>515226696
Thanks for exposing yourself, I didn't think you'd be dumb enough to answer. Neutral anons, please see through these faggots.
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>>515226344
>coping this hard
The claim was it fell "in its own footprint" insinuating a controlled demolition....when it was nothing like a controlled demolition with the building falling down but well outside its footprint damaging 40+ other building for blocks....but sure it was just like CD. it was nothing like an implosion you fucking retard

Fuck off you stupid cunt.
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>>515226770
lmao this dumb nigger cant even keep straight who he's arguing with or what their argument is
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>>515210002
Monuments to the .com cezar of Saudi Arabia all over America.
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>>515226944
Nope, I'm just asking you instead. Anyone harassing me can answer the question. What are you afraid of? Explain why you need specialized materials fired at Mach 5 (3836 MPH) to pierce simple tank armor, go ahead!
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>>515226833
>cant answer the questions
>doubles down on cope
lol. You are so bad at this. picrel is you lol
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>>515226934
please explain how your conjecture is consistent with this building getting hit with debris,
the building was repaired,
but the building kept deteriorating around the repair to the point that years later the entire building had to be taken down
you cant
there's a whole hose of anomalous factoids that you cant explain
not with nukes
and lmao most definitely not by agreeing with the fucking commission report
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>>515226934
explain how debris magically left the entire perimeter of building 6 untouched
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>>515226934
explain how the buildings didnt topple
explain how an accident can produce symmetry almost exactly like akshual demolitions
explain how if it was jet fuel, people were touching bare metal shortly after the fact
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>>515227276
>please explain how your conjecture is consistent with this building getting hit with debris,
thats a great example of the WTCs not falling into their own footprint. thanks for proving me correct.
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>>515227014
I wont bother, because I know that when vMax is exceeded, planes tend to start simply breaking apart
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>>515225306
>>515225973
>>515226770

a fully loaded 767 flying at 600mph has 7,107,069,087 Joules of energy

an M833 APFSDS moving at 1500m/s has 19,391,073 Joules of energy

a single 767 flying at 600mph has as much kinetic energy as 366 armor piercing tank rounds
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>>515227504
>IF IT DOESNT LAND ENTIRELY WITHIN ITS FOOTPRINT ITS NOT FOOTPRINT
ok retard
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>>515227699
>a fully loaded 767 flying at 600mph
will break apart flying that fast at sea level, retard
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>>515210118
It took nine months of cleanup. A number of fire departments around me have pieces of metal on display as memorials. I'm about 4 hours away from NYC.
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>>515227504
and you also avoided the question
but you obviously cant answer it
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>>515227486
>explain how an accident can produce symmetry almost exactly like akshual demolitions
lol. This is not at all a factual statement. You are either lying or ignorant- which is it? The building collapses started at the point of impacts- at the top- nothing like a CD. The buildings facades sheered off and out- nothing like a CD.

>explain how the buildings didnt topple
its called gravity. The buildings withstood the plane impacts but the fires softened the steel allowing for the top portion to fall DOWN- the floor below the top portion couldnt with the collapse. how hard is that to understand.

Why should they have "toppled over"?

>people were touching bare metal
really. the horror? must have been a nuke for sure. This level of incredulity is truly mind numbingly retarded.
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>>515227699
>a single 767 flying at 600mph has as much kinetic energy as 366 armor piercing tank rounds
That doesn't mean an aluminum plane will pierce a giant steel building with a giant, thick steel core. Aluminum isn't the right material and it's not being fired fast enough. Good try at deflection though, you probably tricked a couple of droolers.
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>>515227709
>if it doesnt land in its own footprint that means it really did land in its own footprint
ok retard.
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>>515226934
reminder that the WTCs were twice as tall as any other controlled demolition
face it you're a retard if you believe the commission report and are probably too stupid to be posting here, you should head back over to plebbit with the other mind numbed idiots
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>>515228191
>but the fires softened the steel
they magically softened every single column equally, lmao
I already posted pics of people touching the bare metal
anyone with a cast iron stove knows goddamned well that once you heat it up sufficiently, you're not touching it for many hours
if steel was in fact weakened enough then it would not have done so evenly, and we would have seen the towers topple
tell us more facts about how you're a retarded triple faggot
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>>515220905
>dr judy wood is the only person with a reasonable hypothesis

I double this.

(Conclusion after researching conspirology since 2004, read/watch everything ever existed about 9/11)
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>>515228191
>Why should they have "toppled over"?
holy fuckin shit are you really that fucking stupid
but you've already answered that question
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>>515227328
I think you explained it perfectly. it was magic
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>>515210002
Niggerjew chinkjeet slide thread. Debris was obviously real. The fake part is the plane and internal demolition. Stop poisoning the well, go back to your flat earth jewFO threads.
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>>515227999
You are not making sense. try again.
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>>515228273
>footprint means only the LxW dimensions of the building, debris may not fall outside of it
yeah you're a real retard
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>>515222703
>Did you expect the floor below to withstand 15 floors collapsing
considering every floor of a building is designed to carry the load from all of the building above it, yes?
>>515220279
>Steel doesn't have to be heated all the way to melting point to lose structural strength.
I don't disagree with this at all. but what would you say caused the molten steel then? If not jet fuel. what substance(s) were responsible?
>in before a giant bellows
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>>515228221
>will pierce a giant steel building with a giant, thick steel core.
The building was a hollow box with a thin facade. 120 tons flying at 400+mph easily penetrated the buildings like a pencil poking into a soda can. Your logical fallacies doesnt changes physics.
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>>515211845
those buttons were in the express elevator.
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>>515228588
>it doesnt make sense that this adjacent building got hit with debris and the impact site kept deteriorating after repairs to the point where the whole building had to be taken down
if it was fixed, why did the materials continue to degrade at such an accelerated rate that only a handful of years later, the entire building had to be taken down?
you have to be judywoodpilled to understand that one
but as you're a retard literally trying to push the commission report,
we know you're a retarded shill faggot that doesnt belong here and should go back
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>>515228806
I'll post this picture for the third time so everyone can see how shamelessly you will lie.
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>>515228806
>The building was a hollow box with a thin facade
and you wonder why we call you a lying shill
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>>515212384
>>515212539
maybe the planes were holding explosives/accelerant as well - everything else was planned.
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>>515228806
>pencil poking into a soda can
a pencil is solid. steel isn't aluminum. do a better metaphor
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>>515220905
>reminder that dr judy wood is the only person with a reasonable hypothesis about what took place
Lmfao I didn't notice this until someone else quoted it, this is their last line of defense when somebody mentions the forbidden video I posted in my first post. They start blaming it on space lasers and directed energy weapons. CAN'T BE NUKES GUYS HEHEHEHUEHOEOEHEO DIE FOR ISRAEL GOYIM
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>>515228998
its easy to know that the E-Team planted incendiaries to help the plane penetrate the outside of the building, because the wiley coyote holes went all the way out to the wing tips
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>>515228468
>hey magically softened every single column equally, lmao
who said that? if it was "symmetery" it wouldnt have looked like this.
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>>515210002
Is this one of those stupid flat earth tier images like hologram planes? This thread is conspirashit isn't it?
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>>515228533
>gets BTFO
>Has no answer
>copes out
lol
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>>515229042
why are you so adamant that we know all techs invented by humans?
that's really your only argument, that we know about all techs and nukes are the only one that can be shoehorned into this scenario because anything else is just simply impossible and doesnt exist
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So are all the NYPD firefighters who reported hearing bombs go off inside the buildings lying? If it was a DEW, why would you also need bombs?
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>>515229209
>such levels of symmetry can totally happen by accident
I love it when people cope by telling me to cope
fact of the matter is, toppling is a guarantee without prior planning
you are obviously too retarded to understand this and should go away with your double digit IQ
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>>515228606
They fell down. thats its. dont say foot print if its not in its own footprint. controlled demos fall into their own footprint so they dont damage other buildings around them...just like WTC...oh wait.
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Can someone also explain why the White House press secretary said that Air Force One received a weird message that morning and Bush had to fly to two different military bases?
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>>515229366
>controlled demos fall into their own footprint
all demolitions extend beyond the footprint of the original building
simple fact
you dont know much aside from what you've watched on MSM, do you
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>>515229346
>toppling is a guarantee
shut the fuck up you absolute retard. The buildings withstood the plane impacts. once that happened there was no way or reason they would fall over. Please do not speak about things you obviously have no fucking clue about.
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>>515229439
its just a mystery, same as all those accidental american airlines puts and all the SEC's evidence of the enron & worldcomm investigations going poof in building 7
just a complete coincidence, how could it be anything else but?
because it wasnt pre planned, it just wasnt, ok
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>>515229592
any sort of asymmetrical damage will never, ever result in anything close to symmetry in collapse, especially if it was very significant like the planes
you should go neck yourself if you cant even understand that simple point
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>>515222918
So you’re one of them? If you truly were initiated you’d know the towers are still there. The whole thing was faked by the giants on the outside of the earth.
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>>515210181
As you can see, conspiracy theorists are totally unreliable at telling you what the truth is. Look at David Icke in the 90s, complete natcissist who said he was the second coming of Christ.
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>>515214786
Holy schizophrenia.
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>>515229510
>all demolitions extend beyond the footprint of the original building
Why are you lying? they purposely implode them. so they dont damage other buildings around them.

But that dust!! holy shit CDs must actually be nukes or dews lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjl1kGfOEeg
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GOYS 9/11 WAS TOTALLY REAL TEE HEE DEM PLANES WENT BOOMIES AND THEN DEM PANCAKES WENT WEEEEE
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>>515222703
steel beams don't turn into dust because of a building collapse.
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>>515229870
>posts a video showing the debris has gone beyond the original footprint of the building
>retard declares victory anyway
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>>515229728
>symmetry in collapse
>clings to a false belief.
you really gonna die on that hill lol.

Answer this: why are troofers so fucking retarded?
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>>515229963
see>>515221441
lol
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>>515230047
>edits what he's replying to and omits key portions
all you've told us here is that you have no problem inventing positions to argue against and have no idea what a logical fallacy is or why its not a good debate strategy
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>>515229959
9/11 was real you STUPID GOYIM it was dem brownoids we need to go get them to help Israel establish Greater Isr...errr... I mean to make sure we're all VERY SAFE!
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>>515221441
250,000 ton weight of each building
turns into 1.8 million pounds of debris
I dont think this nigger can maf
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>>515229870
funny how all the dust comes from the base, while the towers were all dust, top to bottom
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>>515229966
>showing the debris has gone beyond the original footprint of the building

Quit lying. Its shows the bulding exaclty in its own footprint as intended. But that dust! surely it was a dew dont you agree?
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>>515210002
There are anons posting on this website right now who weren't alive when 9/11 happened.
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>>515230377
1.8 million tons
that's only 3x+ the weight of the buildings
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>>515230157
>has no argument
>admits defeat.
welp. you tried.
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>>515230377
>1.8 million pounds of debris
>1.8 million tons of debris hauled away
I dont think this retard can read.
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>>515230550
>no the stuff that goes outside the footprint doesnt count
quit being selective with facts
you're not intelligent enough for this conversation
lying jew, dumb nigger, retard plebbitor
its one of the 3, very safe bet
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>>515230611
>if I ignore the argument being presented to me, it doesnt exist
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>>515230154
that beam in my post wasn't hauled anywhere. It disintegrated. No its not shoooped. Just enlarged from the video of the live broadcast.

Explain that smart guy
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>>515229959
>PANCAKES
what happened to that theory? the spandrel connections were too weak to support weight but still strong enough to pull down the columns.

an example of the bullshit thrown at this. way early on they were claiming to have ID'd the perps so quickly (despite fake names etc) through DNA analysis. that ended quickly due to the massive holes in the method needed to do such a thing. then they backtracked to saying they were under surveillance beforehand. which made them look bad but it at least made some sense.
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>>515230383
>controlled demos start at the bottom
>WTC collapse started at the top at the point of impacts
>but the dust!!
lol
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>>515230722
Liar. show material outside the footprint of the building. you cant.
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>>515230764
you have no argument. just regurgitated troofer bullshit that been btfo ad naseum over the last 25yrs
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>>515231039
>haha yeah I'll just ignore all the videos showing more or less sublimating steel that disappear completely while still in frame
>its just the asbestos and concrete, now nevermind about the pieces disappearing completely
you should go suck off kikes somewhere else
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>>515231039
fuck the dust. what melted the steel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUttWGGVcOk
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>>515230780
>It disintegrated.
no. it fell down leaving only dust and your imagination and incredulity behind.
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>>515231143
its right there at the end of the video you posted, retard
or did you not actually watch and examine and just posted it up because you THOUGHT it supports your contention?
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>>515231257
>pieces disappearing completely
they fell down out of the frame you absolute fucking retard. WHy do you think you are so gullible?
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>>515231383
typical once btfo'd, now on to straight up lies
post nose, moshe
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>>515231322
nope. no its not. the arial veiw shows the entire debris pile perfectly inside the foot print.

You are either lying or retarded- which is it?
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>>515212020
luckily some of them escaped against all odds
rumor has it they used to hold their breath while being gassed, or sometimes those clumsy nazis forgot to check their gas levels and would run out mid-execution
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>>515231497
>has no argument
>cant rebut anything
>resorts to hurrdurrr im retarded so you're a jew
lol. many such cases. Sad!
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>>515231565
>the arial veiw shows the entire debris pile perfectly inside the foot print.
it literally doesnt
but the thread already knows you're lying and must continue to lie in order to give the appearance that you have any fucking clue what you're talking about
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>>515231756
>it literally doesnt
>cant prove it
it literally does
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>>515231039
>>WTC collapse started at the top at the point of impacts
It doesn't start at the top, the top is what collapses . The reason why the top collapses is because its support system (the bottom 3/4ths of the tower) are being turned to dust by the gases from the underground nuclear explosions traveling up through the building from the basement. When you see the top 1/4th of the building start collapsing that's because the nuclear gas has fully dustified everything below it. Notice exactly the same type of collapse in both WTC 1 and 2. Notice the bottom 3/4ths of the towers completely disintegrate in both collapses. Notice both top 1/4ths are left mostly in tact after both collapses.
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both the WTC main Towers 1 & 2, and Building 7 skyscrapers all came down at the same velocity into their own footprints despite being different structural steel designs.

(being of a different lower height, Building 7 collapsed completely in around 8 seconds as contrasted with the Twin Towers' 11 seconds duration)
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>>515231830
>The reason why the top collapses is because its support system (the bottom 3/4ths of the tower) are being turned to dust by the gases from the underground nuclear explosions traveling up through the building from the basement.
you're too stupid to not know this is utterly retarded and non physical
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>>515231807
you might want to actually go watch the video all the way to the end, retard
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>>515212020
>memeflag
your pic lose all the credibility. like all the ones posted from israelis.
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>>515229963
Didn't turn to dust. Got a lot thinner when the actual steel beam shed its asbestos fireproofing jacket. Just looks like it vanished in your crappy low-res gif.
The bottom halves of those buildings used asbestos fireproofing and would have made legal demolition too expensive for lucky Larry. Fortunalety, terrorists gave all of NYC mesothelioma and Larry is in the clear.
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>>515231830
>nuclear gas has fully dustified everything below it
yeah. no. this is so nonsensical and devoid of emphirical reality as to fully derail any discussion
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>>515232280
I did. you still cant prove it.
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>>515233358
>offers no proof himself
if you were confident, you'd go take screen shots of it
but you cant do that because you'd self btfo and you know it
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>>515223691
>if you are diligent, you will notice both collapses of the WTC1&2 began precisely at the spot of the plane impacts. Would would suggest the impacts of the planes and the resulting fires triggered the collapses.
if you are diligent you would realize that what you just described is not possible
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Never ask a man his salary, a woman her age, the US government how WTC7 collapsed
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>>515215541
>9/11 no floors
>free atmospheric electricity
care to explain or share some material? I find nothing in jewgle.
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>>515233829
>not possible
Why?
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>>515233535
>>offers no proof himself
>shows screenshot of the debris pile
now you are straight up lying. you're done.
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>>515231296
>don't believe your own eyes, listen to me goy. we didndu nuffin.
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>>515233905
>free atmospheric electricity
if you were aware of Nikolai Tesla, you'd know that Edison and JP Morgan outright rejected his invention to provide everyone free energy, with Edison specifically saying if he couldnt charge people for it, he had no interest in it and made sure he died poor and many inventions absconded with by the USG
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>>515234056
yep just as I thought, you wont even try because you know goddamned well that every demolition goes outside of the original footprint
>b-b-but its just a little bit
yes and that's still outside the original footprint
you are btfo once again, you may leave the thread now
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>>515223859
do you have a video of the pentagon getting hit? I dont understand why you posted a video of the TTs when they were talking about the pentagon.
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>>515234777
glowniggers stole all the video of the pentagon getting hit
but we all know it wasnt a plane that did it
it was one of the things the pilots for 911 truth had a big problem with, as most attempts to recreate it in the industry standard sim saw the wings ripped off the plane in the sim
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>>515232539
ASBESTOS! <smacks head> OF COURSE!!! why didn't I think of that! the beam was actually 98% asbestos! Makes sense!
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>>515233956
buildings dont collapse

buildings dont collapse straight down when hit at the top
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>>515234141
I know about Tesla, I was asking bc I saw no correlation between the 9/11 and this
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>>515236615
>I was asking bc I saw no correlation between the 9/11 and this
that came from judy wood, she stated that the same technology that did this would also be able to provide free energy
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>>515210000
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>>515236615
the no floors stuff is just disinfo retardation, anyone with half a brain or more disregards that shit just like the nukes and the commission report's faggotry
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Hearing people talk about nukes in the basement and steel turning to dust is giving me cancer. Please, if you care about this topic, consider the following content. Just put the first one on and let it play. I promise you won’t be able to stop.

Please watch "CODEX 9/11" "CALLING OUT BRAVO 7" and David Ray Griffins "MYTH and REALITY" for expert testimony and facts. The NEW PEARL HARBOR, "Anatomy of a Great Deception" "The Building Between Six and Eight" and LOOSE CHANGE are also excellent references. These can be found on YouTube.
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>>515237596
the seismic record speaks for itself
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>>515210002
>where the cds at?
>how you gonna burn your porn flicks if the cds arent real huh?
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>>515236610
>buildings dont collapse
not factual
>buildings dont collapse straight down when hit at the top
Niether did the WTCs- they withstood the being hit. didnt topple over. It did damage them though. the fires caused steel to weaken which caused them to collapse. they went down. cuz gravity.
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>>515234260
you're such an idiot. lol
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>>515238539
>these cars burned themselves up, goy
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>>515238717
you're a retard and ignore anything that disagrees with the government's obviously tall tale
you've already been dismissed from this thread, retard
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>>515239010
>bus gets mangled by collapsing building
>another building even closer burns and collapses
>bus gets even more mangled
>OH NO GUISE ITS A CONSPIRACY
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>>515239208
>memetake
>that'll surely convince them
lol. you dont even know what you are trying to say.
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>>515239329
posted the wrong image there,
but nevermind all the other cars that were blocks away
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>>515212020
bro's never used a calculator before lmao
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>>515239486
>continues to be purposefully obtuse
but the buildings fell all over and destroyed everything around them, right
yet the 2 buildings adjacent to 7 were just about untouched
surely just coincidence
too retarded to understand 7 was the primary target
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>>515238539
>the fires caused steel to weaken which caused them to collapse.
ridiculous. i cant believe an adult could be this naive or stupid and since this in 4chan i believe your post is bait
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>>515239899
>destroyed everything around them, right
>hyperbole
nope. never said that. but debris was scattered for blocks and 40+ other bldgings were damaged

>>515239899
>2 buildings adjacent to 7 were just about untouched
>just about
ol. which 2 buildings specifically? lets take a look.

Verizon Building: Also known as the Barclay-Vesey Building, it was located to the west of WTC 7. Its eastern facade was extensively damaged by debris when WTC 7 collapsed, but it was later restored.

Fiterman Hall: A building belonging to the Borough of Manhattan Community College, it was situated adjacent to WTC 7. It was so heavily damaged and contaminated by the collapse debris that it had to be demolished.
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>>515240228
nah there's literally adults out there that are so attached to a worldview that doesnt include the central banking jews fucking over the entire world that they will close their eyes and believe whatever le news tells them
>fires caused steel to weaken
these people here did us the favor of 100% btfo'ing that meme
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>>515239707
you are incredulous. we get that. you expected nothing to be damaged on the streets lol.
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>>515240384
>what, there's nothing wrong with what I'm saying
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>>515240575
You are right. fire never weakens steel. it only makes it stronger.
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>>515240684
you're a faggot. we get that. you expected the news and the government would never lie to you
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>>515240837
>reduced to spewing memes
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwoBRHDLxdo
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>>515213056
What rubble?
Here's a photo of the "pancake collapse" while WTC7 is still standing.
14 people survived in the stairwell of WTC2, firefighters. They all said that the building "disintegrated" overtop of them. They weren't crushed, or burned, or impaled. And some of them experienced being transported through the air, but not in a kinetic/explosive way.
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>>515240920
>steel can be heated up to the point of weakening and someone can touch it with their bare hands just a little while later
you're right, I handle metal that several hundreds of degrees with my bare hands all the time, there's nothing to it
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>>515240944
>gets humiliated
>derps out cope
Many such cases. Sad!
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>>515241100
>continues to self btfo
hilarious
>Because flammable materials had been used to furnish the interior, the entire building was engulfed in flames within twenty minutes
>a reinforced fire-resistant concrete hull construction, its interior was furnished with flammable items
so, not steel and full of flammable shit vs steel coated in asbestos
lmao, keep going, retard
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>>515238539
>the fires caused steel to weaken which caused them to collapse.
OK, Mormon

https://debunkingdenial.com/fraud-in-physics-part-iii-the-cold-fusion-scandal/
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>>515238532
Average CD 1.2mm
The transparent poly carbonate layer 1.1mm
No internals in the poly carbonate that block light.
More than 90% unobstructed with the top layer reflecting light allowing for even better visibility.

Average WTC floor height about 3.66m
Actual ceiling height 2.6-2.8m
0.86-1.06m for HVAC support structures and so on
Office cubicle wall heights range from 1.07m to 1.65m
An average US office desk is about 0.75m

This means you have about 76.5% pass through on ideal conditions for a floor.
On the worst case without full partition walls only like 26% open space for the light to pass through.

Yeah your comparison stinks dude.
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>>515239329
Your countershilling isn't even interesting.

>>515239208
Don't forget Frank Lowy.
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>>515241271
>gets humiliated, copes by projecting
you've had your ass handed to you over and over itt, retard
reminder that there's only a handful of people with the power to schedule planes flying into buildings training for the air protection
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>>515241639
yeah lots of jews involved
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>>515210002
hutchinson effect, twin towers were tuning forks so they could cause multiple dimensions to all focus on the same event
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>>515241164
>They all said that the building "disintegrated" overtop of them.
no they didnt. this guy didnt say that.

https://youtu.be/DZMpXlxQ024?si=kq7QkP8IJJRAZ7cK&t=883
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>>515241749
>is delusional
>is troofer
checks out lol
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>>515242387
you're a gay retarded triple niggerjew that the thread knows is a well poisoning liar
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>>515241456
>barely even coherent enough to make a point
>but but but
>goalsposts moved
its all so tiresome.
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>>515241174
>the thin steel cladding of the facade was what was holding the building up
>steel loses half its strength at 600° but whatever im sure that made no difference whatsoever

you are all so fucking retarded.
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>>515242674
>gets btfo a hundred ways
>y-you're not coherent!
>y-you're moving goalposts!
listen jewboy, I've got more 911 material than the site will allow posts in a thread
nobody but plebbitors and fox news trusting boomers think the commission report is anything but a pack of lies
the rest of us know jews were involved
you likely have a big hook nose
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>>515242630
>more memes!!
>look guise im winning
lol.
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>>515242997
>delusional
>seething
>desperation leads to calling people jews
>im sure the next meme i post will show'em
lol. its all so predictable with your troofers. Its always end up with you pulling your hair out and screaming jew at the top of your effiminate voice.
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>>515242942
>At what temperature does steel lose all of its capacity? The strength of steel remains essentially unchanged until about 600°F. The steel retains about 50% of its strength at 1100°F. The steel loses all of its capacity when it melts at about 2700°F.
the funny part is it hit temps where the tensile strength just begins to change
retard exposes himself yet again
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>>515243309
hilarious because I have a deep voice and you're a projecting tranny
btfo'd again
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>>515243073
>nooo they werent laundering money
hahahahahahaha
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>>515243316
>1100°F
>593°C
>typical office fires reach 1100F
>no worries, I'm sure losing half its strength had nothing to do with the collapse
you really gonna go with that? cuz thats really fucking stupid lol.

https://publications.iafss.org/publications/fss/9/1267/view/fss_9-1267.pdf
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>>515243447
>copes out with hurdurr your projecting
no you are.
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>>515244500
>t-the temperature of the flames = the temperature of the steel
I see you are ignorant of chemistry
specifically, stoichiometry
which deals with moles of reactant and moles of product
which tell you quite clearly that there's no possible way enough BTUs of heat were transferred to the steel
as evidenced by all the people touching bare metal that we have plenty of pics of
its the same reason your pan doesnt melt on a gas stove that's at zomg 2300F
reminder that metals testing was done and it wasnt even fucking close to 1100F
you have once again btfo'd yourself
but perhaps you're too dumb to realize you are doing it
go look at the charts mein nigger
you will see that the temps tested showed the steel never lost more than ~7% of its tensile strength
failure once again by you
it must be frustrating to get owned so many times in a single thread
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>>515245140
Incorrect. see this
https://publications.iafss.org/publications/fss/9/1267/view/fss_9-1267.pdf
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>>515245290
>we made simulations that prove
lmao
do you believe the climate models too, dumbfuck?
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>>515245759
>gets BTFO
>has nothing
thats not an argument. rebut the facts in that paper or admit defeat. those are your 2 options at this point. you were not factual in your assertions. thats known as being wrong. Your delusion will prevent you from accepting/admitting this but it doesnt change the facts...no matter how many memes you post. lol.
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>>515243316
Well a building is not a plane.
A plane needs to be lightweight to function so safety ratings only go from 1.25 to 2.5
Something like a building should have at least a rating of 5 and stuff expected to be used for long times like bridges are at least 10.
For example if a bridge says max 8 tons of load, but in reality with a safety rating of 10 it can support 80 tons.
This is done because they obviously want for it to stand long and they have to expect the unexpected.

So if they went with a rating of 5 and expected maybe maybe heavy office equipment with a relatively small footprint you could say like 200kg per square meter, which would result in the floor being designed to hold at least 1t per square meter.
Obviously more as the floors on weight has also be factored in.
So if the floors were mostly empty you will actually need several floors of weight to overload another one.
Even then they would not simply drop, the antlers would overload and rip but this does not happen instantly.
Before they snap it will take a bit
So the first floors would actually need some time before giving in, but as they get heavier and heavier and start to accelerate it would slowly get faster each floor.
Yet this is another thing, the support ankers would rip that hold the floors to the inner and outer structural columns, but not the columns themselves.
So you would be left with a fairly high remaining skeletal structure.
And if one thinks this will harm the lower part one has to remember that the lower part was already designed to hold the upper weight including the safety rating.
So even if like 10% of the columns were lost and the fire was hot enough to cause the steel to lose 50% of its strength it should not have been enough to cause the building to fail like this times 2.
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>>515226349
always shoes
plane must be carrying boxes of shoes . no chunks of people just large amount of shoes
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>>515211069
https://youtu.be/NJoHZ67DpgU
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>>515248577
this video is private



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