Why would Russia want to attack Poland?> NATO member> hostile people who literally hate every neighbor they have> Big country> US bases> nothing of particular interest in terms of resourcesYou guys are literally retarded if you think Russia would want anything to do with Poland. The only time Poland even made sense to be in Russian sphere of influence was when there were more buffer states to the west of it.
stop spamming drones at them then lmao cuh
same reason they relentlessly attack their neighbors all the time, they are a country of retarded flag planting morons who think its still the 19th century
>>515328522just the tip to see how it feels.
Polish niggas think theyre tuff shit and act like they wouldnt get raped and molested by orc ziggers in a possible war. I hate Russia but i think i hate the polish even more
>>515328593Tell that to your local synagogue. There is about a 100% chance the drones are just jews trying to start another dead goy harvest.
>>515328522checkedJust like thw time a missile struck Poland during the Russian attack against Ukrainian infrastructure during Russia's illegal invasion of Ukrainehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_missile_explosion_in_Poland
>>515328614https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Invasions_by_the_United_States
Good excuse to finally nuke western Ukraine and cut off all resources flowing to the front. The US wouldnt respond in kind over Eastern Europe so there would be nothing to lose from Russia perspective.
>>515328973Start at the beginninghttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X41bA4l-h0w&pp=ygUdYmlnIGJhbmcgdGhlb3J5IG9wZW5pbmcgcHV0aW4%3D
>>515328522Why would Puccia want to attack Oinkraine?Why would a random nigger stab someone on a train?Why does Mohammed behead somebody for drawing his pedo prophet?All those questions are redunant. The simple answer is that you are all subhumans worthy of death.
>>515329141Russia should nuke France, specifically the nuclear power plants, which would cover much of Europe in fallout while being far enough away to have little effect on its own territory.
>>515329084the vast majority of these seem to be in the context of global conflicts or fighting another larger power or aiding populations who even requested our help. it seems exceedingly rare that we look to a neighbor and drop anvils on their heads and plant flags in their soil if you want to mention iraq, that is quite literally something the entire country feels reticent about and agrees was a massive misstep. pop quiz, do you think russia will ever show the same contrition for any of their egregious military operations?
Russia is crazy and and just want to attack something. This is enough explanation for everyone. just like in batman stories
>>515328614> uhhm, the 19th century is bad akshually, they had racism and lack of LGBT representation back thenYikes.
>>515329258In that case, if you really believe Russians are subhumans, you should eithet man up and attack firwt or be careful with what comes out of your mouth, but you're doing neither.
>>515329320> vast majority of these seem to be in the context of global conflicts or fighting another larger power or aiding populations who even requested our help.Russia was helping the people of Donbas who were being bombed by Ukraine at the behest of the United States.
>>515328522Even if you look at the map, even at the Suwalki corridor, it is easier to cut it on the Lithuanian side of the border without invading Poland. The Baltics are an easier target in this sense. You can also try to make a forced march from Vyborg to Helsinki. Poland is the most difficult and most senseless option.
>>515328522Because every invasion from Europe on Moscow went from here or through here. Territory of Poland is a corridor between Baltic and Tatra mountains and it's very important in Moscovian mind to control it.Being successful Slavic country that is shiny example of how Slavs can live superior life without influence of Moscovia is a bonus.
>>515328522poland is letting you guys use its airspaceonce it gets its new $43B in weapons factories up and running its going to switch sides
>>515329456Why would I attack your HIV infected shithole? Seeing Ziggers getting droned on a Oinkrainian potato field is more fun.
>>515328522>Why would Russia want to attack Poland?you've been attacking us for 250 yearswith a short break between 1991 and now
>>515329850> sucessfull slavic countryLook, I don't think Poland is like a shithole, but it is literally Russia, I've been there. So let's not overexaggerate your singnificance. What I mean to say is, it would be better if the buttburt belt would stop the constant barking, but they just can't help themselves.
>>515328522I don’t know. Poland just recently said they would stop sending help to Ukraine so it’s more likely that Ukraine recovered Russian drones on the battlefield and launched them into Poland.
>>515329973> with a short break between 1991 and nowQuestionable statement, but even if it is true in your mind, then I see you can't wait to go back to "status quo".
>>515329355no im more referring to the wanton militaristic conquest that we as a civilized planet have decided to largely leave in the past pop quiz, why do countries elect to join nato
>>515329478>people of the donbasyou meet russian separatists armed by russia who were attempting to seize land?
>>515330175You might think Poland's not important, but during Tucker's interview your president mentioned Poland bazillion times, absolutely unasked (it was like 4th most mentioned country after Russia, Ukraine and US). Poland is viewed as strategic threat by your leadership whenever we like it or not. Cause for it is that mere existence of Polish state (with no natural resources, but with GDP per capita higher than Russia) is dangerous to Russia's soft power over other Slavic people.
>>515328522I thought you could know. I think it's just to piss of euros and display their cowardice, they ain't gonna do anything, maybe tariffs and sneed.
>>515331472Ok, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, because I was also very wrong in 2022 when I told my Ukrainian fren to chill and told her Russia would never invade Ukraine (because it was unthinkable). Still, I don't get it why would be reasonable for Russia to go for Poland when the baltic countries with siginificant Russian population would be a more obvious choice. Poland may be important strategically, but only in theory. In practice it would be an absolute clusterfuck to try and invade.
>>515328522>Why would Russia want to attack Poland?>You guys are literally retarded if you think Russia would want anything to do with Poland. Yes russia ACCIDENTALLY attached external fuel bags to shaheeds,it's not like you really wants to attack poland or anytinghahahahahaha rlmao
>>515328522>nothing of particular interest in terms of resourcesNot so fast, anon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syMhJMmGEIc
>>515331435It's really obvious that you just want to spin things so hard it turns into "War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery," etc. Ignorance is your strength, I suppose.You're even spinning invading other countries halfway around the world as a good thing while demonizing helping people on your own doorstep. Its deranged.Would the US sit by while Russia bombed Mormon enclaves in Mexico? To be perfectly honest, US policy is so schizophrenic I wonder if they might.
What if the point is not that Russia wants to hurt Poland but that Russia wants to send drones (which are very good drones and lots) into the Poland as a warning to rest of NATO?It is like very aggression deterrent and coercion - not an Invasion. Of course is on purpose but if Russia want to invade it would be Baltics. Poland was specific target to show they are still strongish.
>>515332052>Still, I don't get it why would be reasonable for Russia to go for Poland when the baltic countries with siginificant Russian population would be a more obvious choice.Balts might be step one, but at this point everyone will expect step two (Poland) to happen and prepare accordingly. When Poland is considered target (even if only due to it's strategic location) it's question of when, not if. From military perspective it would make sense to attack earlier than later, because there's no chance to control territory of Poland by political means (like it happens with Georgia).
>>515333841Ok, honest question Polish anon. Do you think everyone on both sides are like ignoring the fact that Russia has nuclear weapons and NATO has nuclear weapons and that any seruous conflict like the invasion of Poland by Russia would trigger ww3 in which nobody wins? Because I just don't see how can Russia be like "yeah, we'll just try and see how it goes, maybe we get away with it". I think the whole idea with Ukraine invasion was that it had to be done "before" it was accepted into NATO.
>>515334558That's why every country is pumping funds into regular, non-nuclear weapons for "normal" war. Nobody is taking nukes into consideration.Even Polish government (who doesn't have nukes at hand) cares more about tanks and jets than nuclear umbrella.
>>515328522because you are mind retarded and dream about unite of all slavic nations under your heel and drain their resources, thats why you fakin kacap
>>515334558>Do you think everyone on both sides are like ignoring the fact that Russia has nuclear weapons blablablayes we know live in russia and live in post nuclear country is the same - at least for poles
>>515328522why doesn't Russia team up with Ukraine to genocide the niggers from earth?
>>515334558>I think the whole idea with Ukraine invasion was that it had to be done "before" it was accepted into NATO.++refuse a law to self-determination to all others exept russians, typicalif your country is so superior why ukraine want join nato, not russia?
>>515333056Why did you completely avoid answering for the fact that the donbas was being filled with russian armed separatists? Did that happen or not? Do you think they just had a right to do that? You cant just ignore that lmao
>>515335891Retarded take. Poland has US bases. Going to war with Poland means going yo war with the US and that can only be escalated to nuclear. I therefore think Poland's barking about le Russian invasion is just an attempt at boosting its own importance.
>>515336408> ++refuse a law to self-determination to all others exept russiansSelf deternine all you want, but it was repeated multiple times over the past 20 yeasr, Russia cannot accept nor afford Ukraine joining NATO for strategic reasons. Ukraine decided to ignore this and bought into we are le europeans bait instead of playing it cool. Being pro europe or pro russia or pro neutral would've never changed the fact how corrupt Ukraine was gonna be. Politicians would've been exactly the same, so for regular people nothing would've changed.
>>515337130>war with the US and that can only be escalated to nuclearWhat makes you think so? India and Pakistan both have nukes and they fight one another exclusively with conventional weapons. If two hot headed shitskin nations are capable of holding back their nukes, so can Americans and Russians.WW3 doesn't mean nuclear war at all.
>>515337874Firstly, India and Pakistan have a border. You think US would risk sending troops to the front across the ocean while sitting and waiting for Russia to decide it it's going to nuke them first? But also> India> PakistanLet's get real here, they're playing the game of who is more chicken, not who's gonna chicken first.
>>515336577Why did you just ignore the video of civilians being bombed in Donetsk? Were they also "Armed Russian seperatists?" The people of Donbas are Russian in the sense that they are ethnically Russian, and they're armed seperatists because the United States overthrew their democratically elected government in a coup.
>>515337130>I therefore think Poland's barking about le Russian invasion is just an attempt at boosting its own importance.It's Russia who is doing Zapad exercises, not Poland.
>>515338361And? NATO did a number of excercises in the past on the Russian border.
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>>515338538I'm no Russian nationalist, I can see propaganda on both sides. I was just wondering, why would it be logical to invade Poland and it simply makes no sense to me at all.
>>515328593Tell hohols not to make them navigate into Poland with EW. This was another attempt by Ukraine to drag Poland into the war.
>>515338276I think Russia and NATO will go into conventional war. Nobody will be risking using nukes.If you asked me before 2022, then I'd tell you that Russia might use nuke to destroy some city and shock enemies (de-escalation through escalation), but after it chickened out from doing it in Ukraine (it was considered potential threat in early 2022) I say there is no chance of anyone using nukes at any point.
>>515337130>aww shieeet here we go again
>>515338905Conventional war will inevitably escalate to nuclear war the moment one side is on the brink of defeat.
>>515338523NATO trains with defensive scenarios. Russia exercises for offense - nuclear strike on Poland included.
>>515339085Poland is in NATO, Ukraine is not. If you consider this difference insignificant why did you join NATO?
>>515339241>It's_purely_a_defensive_treaty_meant_to_avoid_war.meme
Kek same shillfest as after oops we accidentally Boeing>NO NO NO PUCCIA BEING FRAMED>WHY WOULD POCCNA WANT TO DO IT?>I AM JOHN FROM TEXAS OBLAST AND I BELIEVE RTThat's why I'm 100% sure russia did it.
>>515339241> NATO trains with defensive scenariosAfter provoking Russia to the point of blood, yes. NATO always pays attention to appear morally correct.
>>515339155>moment one side is on the brink of defeatUntil you're assuming that Russians will cut to Paris, assumption is that political regime of "that other side" will collapse before doing much harm. Moscow almost surrendered to some retarded warlord with few thousand armed men - remember that?Or maybe you expect that people who are between red button and nukes will accept annihilation of their families and everything they know, just because their tsar said so?
>>515339768>provoking RussiaWe are building wall on border to provoke Russians to attack us because Russians expect us to go through this wall to attack them. Top logic.
>>515328522They wouldn't. It's obvious this is the same thing as the last time this happened, Ukraine trying to Article 5 NATO into the war that it is definitely winning (they promise) but also need help with.
>>515338858Did it make sens for anyone before 2014 or 2022 that Russia would be at war with Ukraine?
>>515339288clearly for backupit doesnt change the fact russians are bunch of mindless monkeys and its not beyond them to do stupid shit like that and blame cia afterwards
>>515338858What's the logic behind a full scale invasion when crimea and the donbas region where already in russian hands?
>>515340293Not to me, so, like I said, I can you thr benefit of the doubt. However, I just don't see that it cab play out with Poland in any shape or form, it will literally lead to ww3 pretty fast.
>>515340439I guess the logic here is that Ukraine is still very close to Russian borders and those borders are long, so there was no way Russia would've allowed it to join NATO. I would like to think there was still a better diplomatic ways to resolve this issue, but who knows. I'm not a politician or a war monger, so I won't be arguing for this war.
>>515340463And I can imagine it very easily.>Russia attacks Poland>Article 5 gets triggered>Before America can get out of bed and waddle over, German army comes in>They stop at the Vistula>"We made it, we saved Poland, we saved Europe, we saved the peace!">"Now sign a treaty with Russians and give up Podlasie, Mazury and Małopolska. You want to preserve peace in Europe, right?"
>>515340463>it will literally lead to ww3 pretty fastHave you ever considered that political leadership of Russia lives in a bubble that made it miscalculate with Ukraine and for the same reason they might miscalculate with Poland?
>>515340839There's a certain number of american troops in Poland already and they would be dragged into conflict immediately. Which means wat with america immediately. There's nothing in it for Russia, so I think Poland can sleep just fine.
>>515340839germans deploy in baltics
>>515341018they even make jokes about it
>>515341018From what I've seen, politicians all over the world live in a bubble. Trump ended this war in 24hrs, Zelensky is definitely winning and Europe's 25th round of sanctions will definitely crush Russian economy. So it's not like only Russian politicians can miscalculate.
>>515341243Yes, but your leadership is really fucking up their calculations and on entire different level of consequences.
>>515341621Well now that's an entirely sibjective point of view, comon.
>>515336408Every situation of self-determination is hypocritical, it’s worthless in international law. The problem is endlessly divisible too, ok so if Ukraine wants self determination from Russia, why can’t Donetsk have self determination from Ukraine, and if Donetsk wants self determination why can’t Makeevka want self determination from Donetsk, and why not one street from the next, and one house from the next. The west will care about Ukraines self determination, but refuse Abkhazias. Ukraine denied Zakarpattiya from being an autonomous oblast, Russia denied Chechen independence, self determination doesn’t exist. The US supports Kurdish independence in Iraq and Syria and not in Turkey. France still refuses self determination to some of its colonial holdings. It’s just a shitty talking point by politicians to appeal to some “international law” that literally no one follows.
>>515341812Dude, there's literal war in Europe because your president literally thought that Ukrainians don't exist. Objectively, what is a greater fuckup of 21st century?
>>515342626>>515342626In Urkaine, not in Europe. But to your point, ofc thsi bullshit about "Ukrinians don't exist" is nothing more than a talking point to appeal to Russian nationalists, you know that, or if he does, this is not the reason for the invasion. Whatever you think about Putin, he's clearly not a self-obsessed mad-man or literally hitler the way some media and politicians try to picture him. I still think war could've been avoided, so it's definitely on him gor starting it. But it wasn't strated because he is le hitler.
>>515341812wutprior to everything you had ukraine in your sphere of influence you lost 80% of it sweden and finland joined nato, syria is lost, not to mention about smaller countries like armenia battle of bakhmut alone took more casualties than combined soviet/american casualties in afganistan during 30 years and here you are comforting yourself that hohols are also fucked and NATO countries spent couple % points of their gdp
>>515342626It’s an oversimplification, and Ukrainians do the same to their Rusyn population. Ukrainians treat Rusyn as a dialect of Ukrainian, they refused to give autonomous status to Zakarpattiya when they democratically voted for it (not independence just autonomous status). Ukrainians deny the Rusyn identity and force them to claim to be Ukrainian. It’s all the same arguments Russia makes about Ukraine, and the arguments of why they are different is the same. Rusyns history is largely tied to being under Hungary for 900 years, has many ties with Hungarians and Romanians, while different parts of Ukraine were under different countries but let’s simplify and say that western Ukraine was under Poland for this time. If Rusyns weren’t differentiated by being under Hungary, how are Ukrainians differentiated being under Poland? It’s done for clearly political purposes, but really Rusyns, Ukrainians, Russians are all very similar in many ways, and it’s normal to not differentiate, but it’s also normal to differentiate.
