>>515331841They voted for a President that they knew would implement tariffs so I have zero sympathy for farmers now. Go on and sell your farms to BlackRock / Bill Gates, you welfare queens.
>>515331841Just sell in the US>inb4 but we loose moneyYou'll loose more money letting it rot
>>515331841maybe they should produce food for home and not shit for other countries then
Why are they selling out to people who imprison and enslave Christians just for existing?Why not wheat and corn for the domestic market? I think it is being done out of greed to be honest.
>>515331841>oh no! Won't somebody think of the onions!
>>515331841market has spoken, no more söïbeans
>>515332154>maybe they should produce food for home and not shit for other countries thenThis.>>515332016The problem is those farmers were growing rice which was meant to be exported to China. They should be growing American crops for Americans instead of chink crops for chinks.
>>515332063>>515332154> just sell less and need less laborYou dont understand, if we dont sell over there, we can justify importing browns over here.
>>515331841We have resources, land sunlight waterHow is it that we can't build an economy to sustain ourselves?
The tariffs backfired on export farmers
>>515331841good. I hope they all go bankrupt.
Let people trade in a friendly mannerBut if this is a "dire situation" we have much bigger problems
And I mean jews/ blind guides
>>515331841just sell it to americuntsthey love onions
>>515331841>You WILL eat the Onions. More big titty miggy men.
>>515332495greed. you can call it jews/judaism but at the end of the day, when you can be a worthless nigger and make 1000x why would you do anything good or productive for society?how is shit like Apple the most profitable (margins and sheer revenue) companies of all time? why do kids want to be tiktok stars or work in offices shuffling paper ineffectually as "business analysts" or whatever stupid shit?our society has been buck broken by immense financialization. It's so bad that simply holding SPY is better than trying to start a small business both in overall ROI and risk.I sometimes wonder if Marx was right all along, but whatever.
>>515331841They should plant less acreage of basedbeans this next year.
The problem is fiat is backed by jewish ideology That is hanging on the neck of the sons and daughters of GodSo all that searching around will bite itself on the assLike the oroborous and there is no sustenance in thereAnd it's growing worse by the dayA masturbation fire has an endWe burn everything and we can't build more.We can't produce atoms.Or freewill.Hell is without to illustrate it.This is very fundamental.
What apparently nobody in this thread understands is that Trump has been sending farmers welfare that would make a nigger with 9 kids from 9 different incarcerated dads blush. The farmers around here call it mailbox money. They don’t know how the amount is determined, they just keep getting checks in the mail. It is essentially a payoff so tariffs don’t jeopardize their votes come midterms. We’ll just print more money to give to farmers, then the related industries will see they have money and increase input costs for next year, then some other shit will pop up and we’ll do it all again. Welcome to the last 40ish years of agriculture.
>>515331841>Farmer says>FarmerSo a single farmer can't sell to chinks? Lol, good
>>515332212>I think it is being done out of greed to be honestNo shitBut it's becoming an extremely common theme that if a business can't sell for exactly what they would expect, it's easier to just exit the business.Everybody running a business demands to pay themselves whatever is considered an extremely high wage in the aera and wanting lower prices makes you a bad person because it might take that away from them.Hardly any business is really "struggling". The only struggle is the failure for the owner to make 200k a year.
>>515332870Ah the soulJust enough time to put in work hereThose who dig their heels into the ground make themselves retarded.God makes the resources, we will go into the new earth jn resurrectionAlbeit wisdom has the potential seed for overwhelming harmony here and now
>>515332870> our society has been buck broken by immense financialization.jews led the charge on all of that, it’s always them in every nation that experiences this.>sometimes i wonder if Marx was right It’s the fucking jews nigger Of course greed exists in every society, but jews kick it to an insane level. They also use their power collectively to lobby to make sure it can always continue to happen instead of allowing the system to self correct
ONIONSςογ Sογ
>>515331841GROW SOMETHING AMERICAN INSTEADLIKE HAMBURGERS
>>515331841Americans are retarded niggers they cry nonstop about china becoming the new superpower but it is only thanks to America that china could grow in the first place. Starting with Nixon the monkey who created their worst enemy.Fuck those farmers no one should eat s o y garbage. They deserve to go bankrupt the same with all the corn nigger farmers created HfCS making all Americans ill with that poison.
>>515331841Why are American farmers feeding their enemy that sends fent to kill the farmers family members. Shit is crazy to think about
>>515331841it's okwe can put the soibean into our food supply :)or perhaps less cash crops for exports with american soil
>>515331841basedbeans!asedBeans!
>>515331841Oh no! Now he'll have to grow things americans want and sell it to americans
China imports basedbeansChina imports riceCommunists can't farm
>>515331841these were the idiots googling "what are tariffs" after they voted
>>515333455>feeding*poisoningWe're talking about soibeans.
>>515332495We do sustain ourselves. That's why the world hates us. They all need each other and they need us but we don't need them.
>>515333095Farmers sell to granaries and beaneries for prices that are determined on the boards of trade. Depending on futures markets, farmers will sometimes sell their crop (or a % of it they are comfortable gambling they will produce) before they even plant it.
>>515332495Republicans have been trained to hate the word 'sustainable' despite the fact that it is much more economical and results in less waste.
>>515331841sounds like you can make unlimited soi-milk, i don't see what the problem is. a lovely cup-a-joe with a dash of soi-milk is the mutt dream isn't it? for me, it's yorkshire tea an cow juice but yous bois are all faggots.
>>515334127to be fair, sustainable is more work than just running your fields bone dead and constantly pumping fertilizers and top soil on it.
>>515333421>Chinese are retarded niggers they cry nonstop about china becoming the new superpower but it is only thanks to America that china could grow in the first place
>>515331841Why don't those faggots grow something good for human beings?
>>515332016I don't get. Why are they asking for bailouts?Why don't they just pull themselves up by their bootstraps?
>>515334137I wouldn't mind if we had stuff like fermented basedbean tofu like they make in Chink land and Taiwan. that shit is pretty good desu.
>>515333901There are over a billion of those gooks
>>515334127What's sustainable is farming crops for domestic markets
>>515334230socialism for me, but not for the. tale as old as time.
>>515332212>Why are they selling out to people who imprison and enslave Christians just for existing?REEEEE PERSECUTION!Sounds like ANTI SEMITISM..
>>515332016Yay bolshevism-style farmer genocide!>>515332063It's "lose" you absolute dumb fuck.
You guys eat tranny beans? I thought you all already knew it's poison that just fucks up your hormones
>>515331841bail them out one time with the stipulation that they remove subsidies and let farmers make food that consumers want that arent big oil and monsanto
>>515334276And why can't china just order 0.1% of them to go be farmers? Why is China of all places importing rice?
>>515331841Lmao imaging eating american poison. What the fuck was China thinking when they allowed american food in their market?
>>515332337Yep. They are traitors. Let’s grow onions beans for China, let’s grow rice for chinks, let’s grow corn for ethanol. These farmers suck, there are plenty of liberal farmers too.
>>515331841Maybe they should farm something the local people want to eat
>>515334204Because the government subsidizes and incentivizes them to grow this crap. You need to understand, the US government wants to make slaves of us all.
>>515334379They dont want to. They want to farm what's easy and then sell it all to one easy to handle customer for a predictable price.
>>515331841Become faggots and troons or get bombed.
>>515334551>farm what's easyLast I checked cattle were easier than crops. Did they go and make cattle hard on purpose?>acquire grass>give grass to cattle>get beef
>>515334309I would legit go up there and tell them to their faces: "We're Republicans. We don't believe in bailouts. You just need to pull yourselves up by your bootstraps, folks."See how they like it. Karma truly works in wonderful ways. The sword by which you wound will eventually wound you, too.
>>515334127Plenty of conservative farmers are getting into regenerative farming these days you little two party brained peon.
>switch half of your shitbean farm to wheat>switch the other half to growing cows>make a bunch of money selling meat and milk>everyone gets to eat meat and milk instead of basedbeans
>>515334763Brazilian beef imports are currently fucking up the US beef market.
>>515334239i hear there's gonna be some cheap soi on the market. you should buy a load and knock some up, to satiate your desires.
>>515332016>>515331841Retarded monoculture farmers aren't worth saving, they are basically utter dipshits who wanted to cash in and effectively ruin the absolute hell out of arable land by systematically stripping it of specific nutrient and countering that with ton of chemicals, pesticide and yearly enrichment with fertilizers which turn every nearby water source into a hotbed of green algea that choke out local wildlife.Literally any farmer worth his salt know better than to do such a fucking stupid thing. Its the equivalent of going out of your way to hang a sword of damocles over your head then scream blue murder once the string start to fray, which is inevitable because the intent never was to make it viable in the long term but maximize production and using all the available area.
>>515334763well idk the economics of cattle ranching but I do know that land is becoming more sparse for grazing and segregated so its harder to herd plain to plain....must be easier elsewhere and then also beef is regulated to certain wholesalers also right...same issue with chicken and Tyson meats
>>515334835To convert a field that used to grow soibeans would require planting lots of grasses in order to rapidly bring it up to par for a pasture. Otherwise it could take several years. There is going to a gap in loss of income for them if they do so. Really the US government incentivizing soibean production was basically equivalent to lured these farmers up to a cliff and encouraging them to jump off it.Stupid in hindsight, but at the time all these farmers saw as dollar bills and got greedy. Now they are backed into a corner and will take a massive loss.
>>515331841I hate these pesticide spraying parasites so much. Cut off their subsidies and illegals and make them get a real job!
>>515335069freegrazing hasn't really been a thing for a long time since the days of the cowboyit's all just factory farming now, smaller farms might have pastures, but lots of cows are just left in a dirt lot and fed corn/hay all day
>>515334874Incorrect. The US cattle market is on a hot streak, most can’t remember so many consecutive good years. Cattle inventory is historically low, as everyone is going to slaughter asap to profit as a ceiling has yet to be found. Imports (Brazil @ 50% tariff) are being taxed to protect domestic pricing while filling demand domestic production is not keeping up with.
>>515335116I'm sure the cows can eat the soibean plants while the grass is being grown
>>515335322Feedlots do that, primarily for finishing (fattening them up for slaughter) and some will pay to winter feed in a scenario as you described, but nearly all cattle spend at least their first year on pasture.
>>515334909>doing home fermentskind of a hassle desu. I use to make kombucha but if you don't have perfect temp control or any contamination happens, you'll get toxic mold on your scoby. it's doable, but fuck that, especially something like basedbean stuff.
>>515331841This is what they voted for...twice.
>>515332016Oh no those poor commercial farmers.
>>515332016>thisyou stupid fucks knew the orange retard was going to come in and level the largest tax in american history now as business owners yourselves you are crying about those taxes you VOTED FOR so no sympathy from me either i don't want to hear your crocodile tears so farmers can just shut the fuck up you shot yourselves in the ass and you expect me to care you have trouble sitting? fuck you.
>>515331841>trusting china with trade dealsTrump ahould tarriff and never backout. They renege his trade deal from his previous term and i reckong it's the same for thsi shit. No one should trust chinks.
>>515335214I get the hate for monocropper assholes but small farmers still exist and you need them to survive you fucking retard. Don't throw every farmer under the bus. Also we can force them to adapt and change to better methods.>>515335395Fair, I haven't worked with cattle guys in a hot minute and don't really know what the market is like under these new tariffs. Most of what I know about cattle is second hand from discussions with the guys I used to work with and the struggles they used to face. Moved to a different career and don't really have those conversations anymore. >>515335548You and I both know pretty much any cheap run of the mill grocery store tier beef will come from a cow that spent that majority of it's life exactly how I described it.I try to source the beef direct from local guys who just leave them to be on the pasture for several years.
Do what hotel managers do with all their empty rooms: sell it to migrants and send the bill to Congress.
>>515331841> No basedbean orders from China> Shows picture of chinese basedbean field.kys
How do these seeds work anyway?
>>515331841>less onions being produced in the world>that's a bad thingOh I welcome the change. Next we should send the gluten-free and vegan producers right into the gulag. If we're gonna fix the homosexual and tranny problem, we need to fix America's diet.
>>515333901These are sold as animal feeds, not human consumption.
>>515334230Because they got a huge bailout during his first term and want anotherhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/01/21/trump-tariff-aid-to-farmers-cost-more-than-us-nuclear-forces/
>>515331841incoming basedbean syrup as part of every processed "food" item in america
>>515335835>buy our shitty product or else!Why?
>>515335968Maybe it’s because of where I am (Wyoming, Nebraska, Dakotas), but having to put cattle on feed for more than a month or two is not financially viable.
>>515336203These are animal feed grade basedbean, not fit for human consumption. China import them for their poultry and pig farms.
>>515336134well you know it's going to be the opposite right? At least short term based bean process will drop to rock bottom and restaurants will all be buying cheaper based bean oil to lower prices
>>515331841>China doesn't want onions beans*From America. They're still consuming onions sauce by the gallon.
>>515336361I am in Colorado and worked with Wyoming guys as well before. I don't know what my buddy Reggie was doing for feed but he would keep his cows on hay for months at a time until spring allowed his pasture to come to life again.I try to buy my beef out of Florida oddly enough, lots of small cattle guys there that grow their beef on 100% green Florida grass all year around, and honestly as much as I like my region of the country, it blows our beef out of the water. Not even close in terms of quality.
>>515336347What? My bottomline is never trust chinks. There was a trade deal, people sign, and later on, they shit on it. What's the point?
Kek weren't some delusional China watchers saying that China would starve to death without US agricultural exports just a few months ago
>>515331841Xinjiang slave cotton should be banned and let US return to plant Monsanto Cotton and something, nuggets are ready for the fields!
>>515332063>loosejesus fucking christ you zoomie retards are pathetic
>>515336739This ain't the 1800s anymore. Machines are used for cotton picking. Pretty much all countries aside from third world ones like yours
>>515331841>farmers that exclusively export to chinkland going out of businesswhy am i supposed to give a fuck about this?
GOOD"Big-Goyslop" needed to die decades ago
>>515336721My bottomline is never trust the american government. The only thing more dangerous than being an enemy of the USA, is being an ally of the USA.
>>515332016>>515331841Don't forget these assholes spray all crops with troon drugs that literally castrated our young boysEvery last one of them should be killedhttps://nypost.com/2024/02/15/business/80-of-americans-test-positive-for-chemical-found-in-cheerios-that-may-cause-infertility/
>>515331841just send the surplus onions to Destiny.
>>515331841They voted for this, no refunds have fun selling you farm to Monsanto for one dollar
>>515331841>No domestic demand for estrogenic basedbean product>Stuff it into as many domestic products as possible even though Americans explicitly avoid it when they can>Most of it goes to China still>China decides to stop buying the basedbean>All the monsanto "farmers" now have no demand anywhere for their cancerbeans>total collapse of trannybeans in the united states>Monsanto and their "farmers" suffer massive losses and have to convert to different produce or sell off farms to actual AmericansCouldn't be happier about this.
>>515331841>surplus of goybeansHave government buy them up and ferment them to make delicious goysauce.
>>515332154And sell to who? Mutts don't eat vegetables
>>515331841>Oh no ive tailored my entire business on growing a single cashcrop for chinks, now the chinks dont want it>Woe is meMaybe they should just sell their land to farmer that actually grow useful food for america
>>515337088These are the monsanto farms, lmaoGod liberals are so fucking stupid. Every fucking time.
Gotta love it when a country full of round rolly doughies with round facial features and big ol tiddies want to talk about estrogen. Muscularity is virtually no existent in China.
>>515331841Begging ass farmers begging for handouts again. Go ask Mexico for a handout this time, Mr. Farmerstein
>>515336610Ya people put up hay and either feed them at pasture when winter deems it necessary or bring them to pens to feed there. I’m not saying the massive feedlots don’t exist, but once you go that route you are on the clock, there is only so long you can feed them in that environment before you spend more than you’ll get out of them, which is why the first year is almost entirely done on pasture, where inputs are low. It’s why bad droughts kill the market, no pasture for cheap feed, so everyone is dumping cattle because it won’t be financially feasible to feed them to maturity.
>>515337011what is the chemical? what legislation made it possible to put it in food? what politician drafted the legislation? until you ask these questions, nothing fucking changes.
>>515337151Japan makes better salty rice sauce, there's no point they already own that market.
>>515337153I recently began to se edamame everywhere in grocery stores like it is something anyone here has ever fucking bought before.
>>515331841Why are so many Americans celebrating? Your economy is going down the drain.
>>515337206It's not farmers begging for handouts, it's conglomerates pretending to be Joe Farmer, but they're actually billion dollar operations Liberals are too fucking stupid to understand there's a difference, and mass libtard media always intentionally obfuscates it.Trannybeans aren't being produced by actual Farmers in the US, they are purely a product of major agriculture conglomerates who run genetically weak monocrops that guzzle mountains of pesticides to keep them from dying.
>>515332337>They should be growing American crops for Americans instead of chink crops for chinks.kekThe “food” most Americans eat everyday comes from oil refineries not farms.
>>515334456Lmao, china shill has zero clue about the actual toxicity in China’s food industry.
>>515337277No reason not to try breaking into that market when there are cheap beans just laying around to experiment with.
>>515337493Farmer in America means "giant corporation". There are no real family farms anymore.
why don't they just grow other cropsthe shitflinging about these beans has been going on for years, you'd think they'd have diversified away
>>515337421because this government hasn't represented the people in decades and we all can't wait for it to collapse on itself, at this point most of us will gladly watch as it destroys itself i personally can't wait and i don't feel bad for anyone with skin in the game that has a lot to lose because of it, this is the system you created you fucks and you will sleep in the bed you've made with no sympathy from me or my compatriots.
>>515331841>puts on hazmat suit>sprays toxic chemicals all over the food crops
>>515337153>>515332154Maybe they should grow real food instead of sㅇybean
>>515337560Sure you can try but I'm going to keep buying Japanese because american is synonymous with low quality and Japanese is the world standard for quality products.
>>515337273probably glyphosate, its what also has decimated most the native insect population. Buncha goy youtube channels recently have sounded the alarm on as predictive programming but they only push the human element. Not the whole picture of "this shit absolutely has destroyed ecology on a national level" angle.
Their fault for selling Jew poison...Stop making genetically altered fuckery to ruin peoples health through food...
>>515336993Sure but trusting chinks? Go live with chinks.
>>515337863I would rather trust the chinese government with my privacy than the american government. I'm never using a cell phone until I can buy Huawei.
>>515337653Go for it. There are Americans that will buy other variants just because they're cheaper, they already do with chink knock-offs. May as well capitalize on that.
>>515335662Patriotic farmers need to grow crops for the American market. Not rice or s-o-y.
>>515334456You're just mad that you don't get corn syrup dipped asbestos beans by Pfizer for breakfast, europoor
>>515334763Us beef is dogshit though
>>515337951You can buy Huawei, its not like anyones actually paying actual attention to anything were importing, and even if they ARE starting to hire people to do it, itll be shaniqua or suhkdeep going through the mail, and neither of them "got any time fo dat sheeeeeeit nigga".
>>515337011>>515337273>>515337777It's so obvious, so basic and so stupid. It's the glyphosate, always has been, we've known for decades. But we can't ban it because then Monsanto and/or Bayer can't make a gorillion dollars selling it.That's it really. There's details but they don't change that big picture. We have to keep killing our ecology and drastically reducing our own health so that company can keep making money.
>>515332016Farmers are the biggest crybabies ever. They literally get paid thousands of dollars every month by the government just to not grow tobacco. They could grow nothing at all and still live comfortably.
>>515338528They banned it from cell service, the phones won't work here.
>>515331841eh, the jews will force feed it to the gazans.
>>515331841onions isn't fucking food, the faggots growing that crap aren't farmers.
>>515338603After the Mario brothers bust a blue shell or 2 into the health insurance Bowser faggot, they paid out so many insurance claims they got sued by share holders. Tell me again how you're powerless. You're not powerless you're comfy, content and not willing to threaten it
>>515332212>ChristiansExcept it’s not Christians, it’s Muslims but okay.
>>515331841>WHITE DEVIL TRICKS CHINESE NATIONALISTS INTO GOYBEAN CONSUMPTION>APT27 HAXXX INTO MAINFRAME AT 4CHINZ AND LEARNS THE TRUTH ABOUT GOYBEANS>XI SHUTS IT DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!Chinese men used to look like this before the imperial white devil ruined their hormones through the use of biological terrorism directed at the civilian population.
>>515336888Then keep your niggers busy stabbing whites, do you do.
>>515336588Asians actually think Americans eat more onions sauce than they do. It's not actually that major a condiment in much of Asia.
Maybe not plant for foreigners and plant crop that sells in the USA?Oh my bad that means number go up slower or stays the same, and we can't have that in this economic system
>>515337095>>Stuff it into as many domestic products as possible even though Americans explicitly avoid it when they canthis. fucking everything has those beans in it these days.
>>515338661>Farmers are the biggest crybabies ever. They literally get paid thousands of dollars every month by the government just to not grow tobacco. They could grow nothing at all and still live comfortably.They don't like this point being discussed.Also, most don't realize that food stamps are considered a FARM SUBSIDY.
>>515331841Oh shut the fuck up. These farmers always are in "dire" situations, OH NOO THE WORST HARVEST YET, OH NOOOOO THIS AND THAT.They will always pretend things are bad to get government gibs. They do the same thing all over the world, not just US.It's a fucking racket and a way to extort taxpayers. Don't forget these farmers are capitalists.
>>515337600I can respect that.>>515339110>used toXi just shaves.
>>515333857Their core ideology is incompatable with competent work.
>>515331841>Oh noes!!!>Onions Bean prices might go down a little bit>Onions Bean prices are still higher than 5 years ago.>Oh noes!!! Food Prices might go down a bit!!!Leftist like you are the dumbest pieces of shit on earth. Total waste of life... and you should KYS
>>515340912I put four o in the fucking thing and yet these useless faggot nigger jannies and mods still got it with the filter. KYS jannies and mods. You lowlife 0 pay earning faggot niggers.
>the fake and gay S - 0 - Y market is going to crumbleFinally.
>>515331841Good, now they can grow hemp.
>>515334127To be fair, "sustainable" is mostly used to describe green graft. If you want to know why Democrats push solar so hard, look where the panels are manufactured. Sellouts gonna sell.
>>515331841I wonder where all that Roundup and such they dump on basedbean fields goes to. They douse that shit like mad. Endlesss fields of basedbeans near me, but I wonder what happens when the beans stop rolling...
>>515335010They're boomers. They think the world ends when they die.
it's basedver...
So where exactly is China getting the replacements? They are importing food as they don't produce enough on their own.
>>515341780Brazil
>>515332016You first need to understand what you think a farmer is vs what the government thinks a farmer is. When you see "farmer" you think of some old guy or rural family planting crops on their own land. What the government considers farmers are these "family farms" which are actually multi million if not billion dollar operations that own thousands of acres. Those guys get the welfare and handouts, not farmer Jim, farmer Jim is priced out of farming because of the big ag companies that come in and buy land at sky high prices. They are the reason a fucking combine costs $500k and a small tractor is $60k. Farmer Jim is getting exactly what he voted for, he wants those big ag companies fucked so hard that they lose everything and he might actually be able to buy some land and start farming real shit people want instead of fucking beans and corn to export to chinks just because its more profitable.
>>515341780It's all coming from here. The chinks are investing big money in transcontinental railways to assist with the transportation of various goods.
>>515341023You're a newfag retard