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>>515404439
US
>pres got shot
>insurrection
>semi-regular political violence
UK
>politicans are more evil and are fired/replaced more quickly
>constant riots/protests

both are pretty stable however
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>>515404920
>both are pretty stable however
If you compare it to lybia or somalia I guess
In Europe this would be unthinkable
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>>515404920
US
>shootings
>violence
>insurrection
UK
>bad internet surveillance act
>boat people
>nasally prime minister
Clearly America is.
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>>515404439
UK is more unstable. US has more extremists.
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>>515404920
US is more unstable because of the politically motivated violent attacks. though five PMs in less than a decade is pretty unstable in that aspect at least.
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>>515405877
Considering the importance of economy, the UK is in a worse position.
US can rot for a lot longer. UK is getting poorer by the day, especially when excluding London area from the equation. Social services on many fronts are on the verge of breaking or collapsing once funding has to be cut, and it will have ot be sooner or later.

And they still keep importing browns- 100k of them makes things much worse, thank 100k in the US with 330M pop or whatever.
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>>515405383
which things in the UK would be unthinkable in the rest of europe? I think there are much less stable european countries such as
-italy
-greece
-ukraine
-turkey
-kosovo
and so on
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>>515406785
>though five PMs in less than a decade is pretty unstable in that aspect at least.
we don't have a presidential system so it matters less than you'd think. it's not great, but also has not caused huge issues having such a high PM churn rate
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any country in the west can be the first one to unleash the chaos
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>>515405383
>In Europe this would be unthinkable
France has entered the chat
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>>515404439
England easily but even their sharpened spoons got taken away so there's nothing they can do
We're still fat and happy in the states
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>>515407153
I mean the Brexit negotiations dragged on for longer than it needed to because of the changing leadership, despite being legally out of the EU.
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Uk is objectively more unstable due to the economy and public services getting worse and worse. High immigration and its obvious negative effects are creating tension.

The USA however many citizens have firearms which changes the equation.
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>>515404439
Britain because labour are the dumbest mother fuckers that ever drew breath
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>>515408654
France is down bad but then again France has been down for a couple of years now ever since the Muslims took over - nothing new to me and nothing to debate about.

I'd say both US and UK are somewhat politically insane but both in very different ways.
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>>515404439
If things get worse in the US, they will rapidly escalate.
If things get worse in the UK, they will slowly decline.

I'd say they're both as unstable, but if something does happen, the UK will be very boring, butt he US might be politically interesting.
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>>515404439
I don't know it's like we're competing against eachother.
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>>515406966
Wealth does not equal stability. Maybe a true wealth does a bit like in Norway, not centralised like with London, with heavy reliance put on services that are not tied with the rest of the country in a healthy, constructive way, like international banking. Wealth inequality in the UK is big and still growing.

Is society in Kosovo a powder keg filled with racial, ethnic, and religious tensions? Or one in Greece? They have issues with migrant boats etc, but they're migrants, not a big and growing part of legal society that can't be removed.
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>>515409524
Truth is nobody knows, it could go either way.
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>>515405383
>in europe
>uk
lol
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>>515404439
Will something happen on Sep 13th
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>>515404439
Think we’re both at a pretty similar level, just manifesting in different ways. First poster >>515404920 explained it pretty well. But we in the US have our pretty big protests sometimes too, campus pro-Palestine ones a while ago or the anti-ICE protests recently.
Since guns are more easily accessible in the U.S., though, it adds the wild card of more and more successful politically targeted shootings it seems.

Doesn’t the UK still have pretty big pro-Palestine/anti-Israel protests going on, and also arresting people holding up signs supporting the “Palestine Action” group, which they also banned after I think they defaced some buildings or carried out some violence or something?

People are upset about immigration too. England’s a small little island compared to the U.S. so perhaps the effects of mass immigration are more concentrated, immediate, and obvious, where in the U.S. there’s more specific hotspots, and also cities and sanctuary cities especially where it’s more notable, but others can ignore the effects of mass immigration if they’re sheltered enough from it.
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>>515409917
i didn't mention wealth. i was talking about stability.
on the norway point - 20% of their gdp comes from Oslo, 22% of UK gdp comes from London...
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The UK because it's government operates like a dictatorship.
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>>515405383
Lol what? Weren't 14 afd members killed last year?
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>>515409917
>Is society in Kosovo* a powder keg filled with racial, ethnic, and religious tensions?
Yes
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>>515410213
>which they also banned after I think they defaced some buildings or carried out some violence or something?
Nothing even happened, they banned both anti-israel and pro-england protests, but they carry on anyway, i don't even know what to call it, it's like our entire government is Marie Antoinette.
>>515410331
True, there's a lot more at stake here, the US still has some rights.
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>>515409917
>Is society in Kosovo a powder keg filled with racial, ethnic, and religious tensions
... do some googling please
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>>515404439
political stability is a weird topic to consider.
both are stable enough to continue standard democratic cycles. the usa probably keep trump in power until his term ends (if his age doesn't get him). the uk will stay labour until the next election.
that said, the uk has less problems with gerrymandering since it's not exactly a 2 party system.
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>>515410621
>>515411482

google what? It was always a volatile area considering the regional history and religious and national tensions. It's a baseline. What's happening there right now?

How many murders, protests are happening right now, how many buildings are being burned down, how many people stabbed and raped on a daily basis?
Are their cities increasingly no-go zones? Situation is much better, all things considered, than in most of the 90s.

UK went from fairly stable, wealthy Western power to a country where chiefs of national security services warn about rebellions, revolutions etc. and retired policemen advise to not join any state forces.

You can fall only so hard when you sit on the ground. You used to make steel.
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>>515412499
>the uk will stay labour until the next election.
If they stay until the next election the political situation is going to be insane, people are already going crazy and it hasn't even been that long.
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>>515413326
at worst it will be a repeat of the last of the conservatives overthrowing consecutive pms until they find someone boring enough to hold out until the next general election.
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>>515404439
US has a president and vice president in place with a plan for the next 3 years and a stable if slow economy

UK has a two party system imploding at light speed, is haemorrhaging money and investors at an unprecedented rate, and the next election is in 2029 unless we go bankrupt and have a snap election

So I'd say UK
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>>515404439
lmao LONDON and it isnt even close
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>>515404439
Pretty much the same but the UK economy has fallen off a cliff so its going to implode first.
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>>515415973
Have you considered maybe kicking out all migrants that came in in the last 15 years, and shooting all foreign boats that smuggle people?
Just saying. That might help. I don't know.
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>>515404439
US just caught up
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UK. Because their elite are more tyrannical. Ours are more apathetic unless you fuck with their money. As long as the taxes keep coming in we can talk all the shit and have all the guns we want. Just don't fuck with their shit and keep all your political attacks on other proles and they don't really give a shit what you do. So they're more lenient in their corruption where the UK has an issue with too much nannying.
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>>515411153
>Nothing even happened, they banned both anti-israel and pro-england protests, but they carry on anyway, i don't even know what to call it, it's like our entire government is Marie Antoinette.
lol
Sounds about right for them. It’s fucked up, but I gotta laugh. And then get angry on all you guys’ behalf.
Doesn’t directly affect me so much but I’ve despised Starmer and his regime from the start, whenever he shows up in the news I watch or read, or there’s shitposting or clips or articles here shared about him, and what British government (and police) in general are doing and have been doing. Godspeed to you guys, you’re supposed to have a big protest soon right, so I hope you show those fuckers what’s what.
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>>515404439
The Entire English Race is going through it’s own century of humiliation right now.
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>>515416459
the funny part is these protests are getting angry at the wrong target.
the asylum seekers are mostly innocent in this, but our government doesn't want to admit it too loudly for fear of bigger problems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_Response_Route
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>>515415973
>the UK economy has fallen off a cliff
what metric are you using for this assessment?
seems to me it's mostly tracking sideways. could be better. could be worse.
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>>515420046
m8...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icLh_zkiQqA
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>>515412626
you don't know what you're talking about you polish nigger
Volyn your self
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>>515404439
>Politically
UK
>Societally
UK
A whole lot of tension right now for a myriad of reason
>Demographically
US
They're proper fucked
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>>515422265
thanks for the arguments.
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>>515423028
Yes UK is collapsing and thats why all those balkanniggers that hate us and even psheks like your self biggest dream is to move there to clean dishes,toilets or smuggle drugs.Or in the case of psheks is to traffic their own women to be pimped out by south asians.
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>>515404439
The UK is really unstable, there is no question but how could you ever argue they are less stable than us. We have guns, a major divide in political ideology, we have had several politicians assassinated in the last three month, we had a major healthcare CEO assassinated last winter, we had attempted assassinations on Trump, on gov Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, arguably the largest right wing pundit was assassinated in broad daylight. Our economy in most of the country is now in a recession due to poor economic policy. There is no reasonable arguments that the US is more stable than the UK.
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>>515404439
I think Britain will be the first to properly pop off
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>>515406823
Our economy collapses and niggers and jeets either move on to a new host or go home.
American economy collapses and everyone with guns starts murdering people in the streets.
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>>515406785
>though five PMs in less than a decade is pretty unstable in that aspect at least.

They're all effectively the same and are just replaced when it becomes too embarrassing for the establishment to keep them. We haven't had a functioning democracy since John Major.
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>>515410227
Norway has an enormous sovereign wealth fund which means their country is firmly in the black for the foreseeable future.
They're like a Gulf state but in Europe.
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>>515420046
>what metric are you using for this assessment
"vibes"
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>>515423811
Charlie Kirk was probably the biggest mainstream normie Conservative political pundit in the US and TPUSA has affiliations in numerous Western countries.
Tucker, Candace, Fuentes etc aren't really traditional pundits anymore because they acknowledge the JQ.
People who think this is a nothing burger and will be forgotten in a week are absolutely deluding themselves.



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