The dumbass had his phone on him, which means the FBI has a shortlist of people it absolutely had to be.Phones triangulate off of cell towers, meaning they have a list of every phone connection that was in the area at the time(probably a few thousand suspects). But the shooter is on video walking towards the college, which means they have narrowed data on the smaller amount of people who were in the residential area on his route than were in the busy campus which narrows the list down a lot.The FBI now needs to grind that list until they find a match.
that's too big to be a phone.
>>515649801>dood just triangulate him!you watch too many movies. figures.
>>515649867maybe he's just really small
>>515649801How many people were there? Knowing American infrastructure he will be lost in the crowd.
>>515649801Phones don’t triangulate They ping the nearest tower retard
>>515650031Actually they ping the nearest towers so you can triangulate them. Retard.
>>515650031wrong
>>515649867>that's too big to be a phone.He's built like a fucking AIDS patient. And iphone 4s would be massive to him
>>515650031sure, but they compare pings to other towers to get a more accurate location and at least 3 are required to get a decent estimation (in a major city chances are several towers can calculate location.)
>>515649801Could be in a faraday bag
>>515649801mm do you base your opinions on the FBI on TV series and movies?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover
>>515649801Maybe Trump shouldn't have fired so many experienced FBI agents and replaced them with loyalists.When you politicise an organisation it doesn't function as well.
>>515649801That's his big dick chad energy for slaying MIGAtards
>>515649801Seems like a clip. No phone screen I know of has that tall of an aspect ratio
>>515650180he would absolutely tear you in a fight I bet.
Fuck do you mean they don't triangulate how do you think EMS sends ambulances to people in need? Most phones have connections to multiple nearby towers and the metadata on signal strength is stored by the carriers and turned over to law enforcement all the fucking time. This is 1990s stuff.
>>515649801Maybe its someone else's phone.
>>515650142greatso the fbi has a list of everyone at the university this weekthats super helpful
>>515649801>>Cell phone users are identified by their device's unique IMEI number and device MAC address, which are associated with the user's subscriber account and location data collected by nearby cell towers. When a phone connects to a cell tower, the tower records its unique identifier and signal strength, allowing the network operator to approximate the phone's location. By combining data from multiple towers, a more precise location can be determined through triangulation----I'm surprised that they don't know yet.
Pretty sure that is the rifle considering how he is walking in this video. Also how the fuck does TMZ have more images and video footage of the killer then the FBI?https://x.com/TMZ/status/1966271814499487786
>>515650370Didn't he use bolt action without detachable mag? even if it were detachable it would be 5 bullet mag.
You niggers ever heard of a red herring?He could be playing 4d chess and just be carrying an empty phone case, so that you retards can pointlessly speculate
>>515649801If they actually tried they would have found the guy within 6 hours maximum.The fact that they didn't means it's another Israel agent.
>>515649801If they actually want to find it they need to put up a reward, say a million dollars and any friends he had will instantly turn on him for the money
What if its off you retard? He only turned it on later to call an uber.
>>515650370>>515650554it's a ninento switch.
>>515649801That's his massive rectangular cock and you are gay for staring at it
>>515649867>b-but it's not iPhoneFucking normie.
>>515650510Yes, and where they were and when. That is extremely helpful, are you fucking daft?
>>515650751Didn’t cashapp Patel replace all the DBI bureau chiefs with Indians?
It's a phone. He's got it in a faraday cage bag. With GNSS the feds would have got him day one otherwise.Unremoveable battery = phone always sends location data that agencies can access (with/without warrants? who knows) so you can't just turn off your phone and commit crimes and get away with it. It was originally presented to the public as a safety feature so people could track their lost/stolen phone, but the real reason is to solve crime.
The picture is nobody and simply a picture Jeet Patel had released to save the FBI from total and complete humiliation. I don’t even think they found a fucking gun
>>515650707The wagie that ratted out Luigi didn't get his money for reasons. Nobody is trusting those pigs again
>his phonedude seemed pretty intelligent, has half of America looking for him and still hasn't been positively identified
>>515650419>This is 1990s stuff.yes it is, back when only 1 in a 1000 people had a cell phone. Now that information is useless. FFS we know that the shooters' been on campus together with a couple of thousands other phone users. Big deal.
>>515650376>he would absolutely tear you in a fight I bet.He couldn't take anyone, but I bet you and him look the same only difference is it's because you are starving from living in a shithole country.
>>515649801Bro he's in Vietnam right about now
>>515650293That would be a good thing because the next time it pinged a tower, it’d teleport and be easier to find unless he had the extreme discipline to only reopen the bag in the same place but even the gap in time would be a potential hook point for glowie tech
It was a campus event. There would be thousands of phones pinging.
There’s 0 chance he didn’t use his phone for maps. Even in towners don’t know backstreets
>>515649801either he’s not the guy or it’s in a faraday case/sleeveif that’s his naked normie phone and they still haven’t found him I’ll fart the alphabet
>>515650628Could be a phone that he handed off to someone else not long after making his escape to lure the police away.
>>515651160Yeah and fairly easy to track the migration and for example if he cut it off when and where. Literally a long term solving for x
>>515651077Yes, you are right. People forget, but in today's world having your phone turned off/disconnected from the network is as telling as having it on. If you do anything nefarious it's best to leave your phone at home while it's still on. But this faggot has to go on the run and needs his phone so the faraday bag is the 2nd best thing
>>515650554housewives have the ring doorbell app and they love TMZ so if they were close by to the uni they’d want to be famous or get the money by posting any footage they haveFBI has to review it all first before they include it in press briefings, whereas TMZ can do whatever the fuck it wants as long as it also cuts in the FBI
>>515651359Turning it off does fuck all. Either wrap it in tinfoil, or don't take it with you.
>>515650516Best case scenario is 20-100 meters for signal strength triangulation depending on tower distance.
>>515651160Depending on the resolution you should be able to find the phone that had movements that seem to match what you can see on the video of him escaping.I wonder if the resolution (both time and space) is generally enough for this though.
>>515649801>he thinks FBI want to find the real shooterLOLFBI probably know already but they don't want to, it's in jews interest to not find him that quickly to make it the issue left-right rather than a killer who killed someone, they need the sabotage whites/rights to secure them as cannon fodders, bibi literally said if 'we lose reps, we got no one to supports us', so jews lives depends on it, they HAVE to find a host to protect them
>>515650370What's the ratio? Sony has some crazy long phones.
>>515650347You retards EVER EVER EVER think the retarded FBI OR CIA could ever do ANYTHING let alone your retarded muh fed conspirisjit theories. The FEDS are literally ex football players Jew worshipping retards these fucking retards
>>515651028>He couldn't take anyonetook down Charlie Kirk and got away with it...
>>515650858>where they wereyea, on campusyou arent tracking phones to the meter with cell towers. maybe you could get close if there were multiple 5g towers around. its closer to around 50-few hundred meters.so in the best case scenario, they have a list of everyone that attended the event, which they likely already had anyway
airplain mode
>>515650031They ping all cell towers in proximity. Triangulation is when you take the ping data from different cell towers to approximate the location of the source.
>>515649981For you
>>515649952they can do it a piece of piss. it's not as accurate as the nigger OP thinks though and there were hundreds of people in the area. it's basically worthless. it's not 1995 any more.
>>515649952stupid cretin they absolutely record your position for years
>>515649981And you think this gives you power over him?
>>515651750>airplain modeyou are not only stupid, you are an uneducated idiot as well
Possibly stock of the rifle, he was carrying it down in his pants leg.
>>515651869they record EVERY persons phone position for years?
>>515651449he was also isolated at a point, 200 yards away from kirk
>>515651651No, retard. They could easily look at the location data and identify which phone took the path he was seen taking from surveillance cameras.The issue is that he had it in a faraday cage bag, so the location data does not exist.Fucking. Retard.
>>515651943airplain mode removes your cell phone from the cellular networks retard
>>515650858>are you fucking daft?cell phone triangulation is only accurate to around 50m or so. there were hundreds of people within 50m of him. so it looks like you're the daft one. maybe you should read more before spouting your worthless opinions on the internet.
>>515651651why does it have to be a phonehe could have put his phone in his carit could be literally nothing but wrinkles in his jeans
>>515652008Yes. What the fuck, of course they do. Holy shit, this board is for 18+
>>515649801That's not a fucking phone
>>515649801Please be an iPhone Please be an iPhone Please be an iPhone Please be an iPhone Please be an iPhone Please be an iPhone Please be an iPhone Please be an iPhone Please be an iPhone Please be an iPhone
>>515652023First time he was spotted was on a rooftop right?There might be people with phones within the building confusing things.
>>515649867Most people keep their phone in their left pocket, at least I do.
>>515651750Fucking millennials. You know they can't understand the concept of turning their phone off. There is a power button. Sometimes it is behind a couple of swipes but it exists. Total power off. Protects your phone from tracking. They don't want you to know this, it also makes it code locked (no face/print recognition on startup) so the pigs can't get into it legally (as a bonus).
>>515652153its the leg strap used to hold/carry the rifle
>>515652149>Holy shit, this board is for 18+well judging by your post and other retards in this thread, that's highly doubtful.
>>515651651This pic makes your post look like it was written by someone making shit up... Gee, couldn't be, huh?
>turn off phone>remove battery to be safe
>>515652328See my post about non-removeable batteries and their purpose. Your reply is misinfo
>>515652328Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>515652031nigger, read.you cant track with that degree of accuracy.even if it wasn't shielded, the data would have been useless for identifying someone.we use cell data to confirm if a suspect was in the general area of a crime, not to track and identify individuals
>>515652366we arent talking about gps
>>515651651Sometime i see posts like this and remember utter fucking retards post here. Wow a list of everyone who attended the event...no shit its a good idea, even if its 3 thousand, if 500 dont leave the campus right away thats 500 struck off the list and they cant focus on the others. God you are so fucking dumb it hurts to explain this simple shit
>>515652348they have the data but nobody is interested in them,for now.you triangulate every cellphonethis is how you get connection
Do phones constantly log their GPS coordinates?That's something that they could do passively, without communicating with cell towers.And then next time you connect to the cell network the logs could be uploaded.I just assumed that they did that desu.But seems like it might not be the case. We're not quite there yet. A bit surprisingly.>>515652328I assumed that the low-level communication chips remained online desu.
>>515651016Even if you have a couple of thousand possible phones, it wouldn't be that difficult to eliminate most of them, as they are still probably at or around campus, whereas the one that pings a tower in Mexico a few days later, or went permanently off after crossing a nearby river are probably interresting.
>>515649801Could actually just be a power bank he used to charge devices such as camera or gps
>>515652366GPS ≠ network phone signalretard
>>515652314>Phone in left pocketI used to do this, but you’re a pleb if you do it.
>>515649801you don't know dick about shit
>>515652314Left pocket is for tactical 18650 flashlight, which will scratch phone if phone is in there with it. Right pocket is for phone, but only when phone is being used actively. When not being actively used, phone should be turned off, wrapped in cloth and placed in backpack to prevent any damage from your body smacking things and extend battery life.
>>515649867he's a skinny fag.. so it looks big
>>515652470My phone powers down. The GPS turns off, it can not connect to a cell tower. I checked with the battery consumption, over two weeks. Other phones may differ. My clock stays on that is about it. (My watch would still track me but I don't care that much.)
>>515652314Phone should always be operated with left hand regardless of which pocket it is kept in so that your right hand is free
>>515652534Phones are equipped with GPS/GNSS as well as other location tracking hardware/embedded software. Even the WiFi signal is used to gather the data. The location surveillance tech on phones is on lock. Only way around it is the faraday bag
if he did have his phone on him, they can very easily track all his movements through celltower logs, they can also trace the phones imei & sim to where it was purchased, if he paid in cash they can look at cctv to see who bought it, if they don't have cctv they can map every location where the phone was pinged and deduce his address if he took it home with him
>>515649801holy shit pol is bunch of retardsno one here has an actual degree her or knows what they talking about kek>triangulation>they dont triangulatethis is going in the books of stupids
>>515652577sure they have data, I doubt they have it starching back years ago but whatever, it's just raw data. It's not as easy to interpret that data as many anons seem to think.
>515650370 (Fag)The square the phone is in is a 16:9 (81x144px) >>515651637Ignore the kike.
>>515649801It’s not a phone. I am sorry.We are talking about a professional hitman here, and he knows that if he has a giant rectangle in his pocket he is going to blend in with the masses better because people will see a normal American with a phone, a US shirt and a hat with sunnies and think nothing of it.Nothing is as it seems with this person.Their clothes are a deception tactic, the “phone” is not a phone, and they were there to kill somebody not attend the event. Question everything.Whatever it is, I am 81% sure it’s not a phone.
>>515652904Right. There are exceptions, for sure. Older phones with removeable batteries, for instance. But 99.9% of people don't have a phone that meets the exception. Modern phones are ultra tracked, even when "powered off" which is really just powered "down" with the screen off. Even when the phone goes to "zero" percent, it saves enough battery to transmit location data for several days. I've tracked stolen phones in powered "off" states before. Your country may be way different, but here in the US, it is like this.
>>515649801He practiced for that dayHe practiced the outfit he would wearThe route he would takeThe appearance he would haveHow to blend inThe square object in the pocketWhere he would go afterwards It was all part of his plan
>>515649801They won't be arresting the mossad agent who killed him anymore than they'll arrest the sayanim who helped him escape.
>>515649952That means they know everyone who was in that area by name, since you need to have your legal name attached to a device to get use of it. Maybe not the exact location of them but they do know who he is. They can also probably increase accuracy by contrasting all the relative positions of people at the event and get an aproximate of people who were where the killer was. That is if he was not retarded and left his internet positioning on.
>>515653145My phone does power down as in screen lock. I can also fully power it off. I have to swipe a couple of times to access this "feature" but it does exist. When it powers on again the entire OS has to reboot and it is code locked (not just biometric locked). If the OS is not running the GPS, wifi, and cell tower pings are not running. Everyone should know how to do this with their phone, even if only for the code locked feature which makes it much harder for the cops to get access.
Wait I thought Palantir had some secret giga powerful tracking software that could find a needle in a haystack in a nanosecond. How can this nigger be walking around all this time with the cellphone in his pocket and not be found?
>>515649801DING DING DING DING NIGGAGuess who called it earlier today, glownigger "in the know" media assets.They've known the whole motherfucking time who this patsy was, and where he went that day (and how this would all eventually come to light to capture the "shooter"; but they've had their hands forced to reveal it all sooner than their script would have liked); they've just been drawing this all out for political capital to further agendas and in generating fear/anger for the plebs to demand that palantir be given ultimate free reign to help "capture this guy" and to "prevent any more political shootings in the future, by locking up all the AI earmarked 'crazies' "; and to give more time to cover shit up.
>>515650554TMZ pays cash money, FBI relies on the good will of people and their belief in justice and the american justice system
>>515652835>wrapped in cloth and placed in backpackphone nap
Why would a three letter agency arrest one of their own?
>>515653544I don't know which type of phone you have, but modern phones absolutely still run in a hibernated-esque state for the sole purpose of transmitting location data even after the phone appears to be off
>>515649801>Phones triangulate off of cell towers,When they're on. Think this guy was throwing up tweets before he shot him?
Its a neoprene thigh wrap
>>515649801They guaranteed know who it was.https://youtu.be/lDIkeqf9tMABut (((they))) obviously don’t want the actual perp found.
>>515652908yes, but they only send requests when needed, not consistently. Additionally, GPS data is typically stored locally, especially in the case of consumer equipment, unless you opt in for some sort of cloud based storage. Its not floating around on a government server somewhere unless you are a person or object of interest. Storing that much data would be prohibitively expensive
>>515650801His butt plug is in the left pocket.
>>515651920Kek>>515651771
>>515653513>since you need to have your legal name attached to a device to get use of it.is this really true tho? Can't you just buy a SIM card for like 20$ in wallmart?
>>515653051depends on the country how much they have to store the data.But based on the selection of cell towers, you can locate anyone.If you use Wi-Fi, it's even easier.
How is this generation so weak?
>>515653916The OS is shutdown. This is how the OS is updated. It is how you recover from a crash or to install a new OS. The CPU is shutdown, read write to the ssd is shutdown. If this did not happen you can not update your OS. You need to learn how to do this. I am surprised how many people do not know how to power their phone off. Learn how to do it for your phone.
>>5156500315g is direct wave Not sure ion the specifics but might mean every phone is on a unique carrier band? That's why the towers are short range high frequency low power I haven't researched it a ton so feel free comm fags to correct me but, I am an early signals eng student
>>515649801>implying the FBI would want to expose a psyop
>>515649801Its the bumbstock. They found tools/screws in the nest for assembly of the rifle.
>>515654142The frequency of pings is reduced greatly, but it is consistent. I've tracked stolen phones turned "off" for people before. Pings are about a couple hours apart
>>515654336He was avoiding touching the rail because he knew there was a camera and didn't want to leave prints.This is a pro.
>>515650142Actually they ping my giant jew cock
>>515654478We have a winner.
>>515650370>clipWas he using an M1 Garand? Bolt action "magazines" only hold a few rounds. At least you accidentally picked the correct caliber rifle with your terminology.The profile is too low to be a mag anyway. It could be some gay phone/wallet.
>>515654609his prints are all over that roof btw
>>515654535>I've tracked stolen phonesFucking Glowie outs itself.
>>515654900Lmao. You don't have to work in intelligence to track your stolen phone. Come on
>>515653544They can turn your phone back on for the emergency alert system, or with whatever the latest backdoor Omnivore hackware program is. There are no privacy rights for your cell phone service. >After prolonged negative coverage in the press, the FBI changed the name of its system from "Carnivore" to the more benign-sounding "DCS1000." DCS is reported to stand for "Digital Collection System"; the system has the same functions as before.
>>515649801i just love 4chan
>>515654985It is not just that. You are trying to tell the dimwits here there is no point in powering their phone off. That is bullshit. You can power down a phone so it can not be tracked. So spreading misinformation and confessing to tracking people. Glowing all over you.
>>515654816The presser said they were trying to get a palm print (not fingers) from the ledge, but it's probably smeared to shit.
>>515650347they paid a fucking Russian to make fake evidence nobody should get fired??
>>515655259If I was a glowie I would want people to think they weren't being tracked when their phone is "off," wouldn't I? Kind of like you're doing? I'm discussing publicly available information that I feel should be common knowledge
>>515655044>They can turn your phone back on for the emergency alert systemNot my phone. Not when it is powered down rather than just screen locked or airplane mode. There exists a way to fully power down my phone. It powers off the cpu and ssd (needed to decrypt and encrypt the cell tower signals).
>>515651423Liquefied asbestos is nice it's modern trust the science
>>515649952retard of the day awardquite impressive I've seen quite a few retard comments on 4chan today
>>515655534If your phone has a non-removable battery, I guarantee you it's not fully powered off when you think it is
>>515649801Airplane mode, no sim card, or faraday bag which you can get from temu for like $4.
Huge phoneif truedefinitely college studentHe may not have been aware Charlie was unlike Shapiro.Charlie had a conscience and may have been in the process of turning against Bibi and the Israeli'sNot long ago Charlie was a fucking major Israeli assetBrainwashing tens of thousands of good college kids on campus that China a Obama were behind everything bad and that Israel was here to help and our greatest ally. I am studying the timeline nowSo far it seems Kirk turned against Israel recently, got some bad "vibes", said he was afraid they would kill himSome guy kills himSounds classic Netanyahu assassination
>>515655259you can still track a powered down phone
>>515649801Not only is he not a dumbass but he is absolutely in the clear and will get away with this. Multiracial police state coming soon some nigger or beaner zogbot on every fucking fifteen feet that’s what is coming
>>515655727It does keep a clock running that is about all. The OS is not running so it can't do shit. Even on cop TV shows they have a few cases where "you powered off your cell phone" during the crime and we could not track it. If you do not know how to do it then learn how. It is not that hard to do.
>>515649801Maybe that is 3DS? Streetpass this nigga.
>>515649801The phone won't ping towers if it's turned off.
>>515649801>FBI has a shortlist >of hundreds of thousands of people
>>515649801wait we have just decifered the country and area code>972 - 3
>>515652835this, except for me it's a pocketdog in left
>>515655885Not if it is fully powered off. I could be tracked by my watch for example if my phone was powered off, but not by my phone. My phone (and everyone else I know) has high level encryption that needs a cpu and OS to be running to work just to ping a cell tower. Power off the cpu like you do for an OS upgrade and your phone can not be tracked. It surprises me how little people know about how their devices work.
>>515654253True I forgot about that. Still that would tell them that some fag has that type of sim, which may be trackable back to the store if it has a serial number/identifier. Like if they know X brand sold X card at X store they could ask wallmart to check when and to whom they sold it to.
for modern intelligence it is close to impossible not to find this guy within hours. i know this for a fact. here, if needed, a john dow can be tracked in the middle of siberia within hours if really needed. its just not that important if they "cant". wich raises question: why nsa, cia and fbi dont want to catch this dude yet. probably bc theres the same pattern as with trump attempt? and there still are divisions withing us intel that act independently and report someone who's in the shadow and outside official authorities
>>515650031They literally do. Plus most people have their GPS chip on all the time for convenience. Kevin Mitnick wrote about social engineering verizon techs so he could do it. RIP.
>>515649981It would make sense that he easily stuck the landing on that jump.I could've done that when I was a kid, not so much as an adult.
>>515656031Your phone is never turned completely off as long as the battery has any power in it.
>>515655992You're straight up lying. You seem to know enough about the topic to know that what you're saying is bullshit.I suppose the question is: do we want the population really knowing how their location data is being tracked? Arguments could be that we don't want them to because we want to catch them doing robberies and murders and all that community-detroying bullshit.But this information was already made publicly available years ago. It would be a futile effort to hide it now.
>>515653544>If the OS is not running the GPS, wifi, and cell tower pings are not running.Not sure that's true. These things are implemented with separate chips. Very sophisticated ones. I think they can work independently of the OS, in a more limited fashion. The cell transceiver could keep pinging the towers. The GPS could periodically log its coordinates in a small circular buffer of non-volatile memory. Even the SSD could work without the OS running. While the (high-level) filesystem is definitively handled by the OS, internally they have a sort of log-structured block management low-level filesystem that could be accessed directly with a proprietary protocol. That would be more surprising though. Coordination could happen through another low-level "management" micro-controller of some kind. Possibly built-in the CPU. Modern desktop CPUs do have something like this.I don't know if any of this is actually done. In a way it feels like it would be crazy not to do it. Everyone has tracking devices on them nearly 24/7, why would you allow them to just turn it off whenever they want? On the other hand... maybe I'm just schizo.They would need a sort of micro OS to manage this with a lot of low-level code. But, if you look up "Intel Management Engine" and (AMD's) "Platform Security Processor", a large part of this already exists on desktop PCs. Wouldn't be too crazy to assume they have the same thing for ARM processors.
>>515655885Telecom Anon here. It's not as black and white as "you can track a powered down/battery dead phone". >Different phones do different things. >Some even track GPS data while off and then upload to carrier once they are back on.>Phones do not keep their LTE or 5G radios on while powered off, their is software on the SoC that runs before Android or IOS that abso-fucking-lutely can decide to do this from a HW point of view but I've never heard any reasonable accusation that this possibility is used anywhere(yet?).> Phones absolutely have a Hibernate (where they still make GSM checks with location data) and an "off" mode where they don't, and all the operating systems purposefully disguise these. Still usually not keeping on LTE or 5G as it takes too much power.> If your phone has pegasus on it, I'd wager it can not be truly shutdown by anything but an absolute 0v coming out of the battery.> High chance we all have pegasus on our phonesTL;DR>Turning your phone is not a guarantee that you're not being tracked.>A turned off phone is not guaranteeably trackable.>If you wanna be an assassin you need a clean phone per mission anyway>Removing the battery while the phone is on is a safe chance you're not being tracked but in theory some resistors still have power in them for a time. Could it power on GPS yeah probably, but could it power on anything to transmit out? I doubt it.
>>515656472i'm not going to elaborate, but you are incorrect.
>>515656696You nailed it.
>>515649801Its propably just one of these bad boys right thea
>>515649801Decoy from the real shooter.
>>515649801>>515649867if he didn't have GPS on, triangulating the phone without knowing the number is next to impossible. But I guess they could have list all the active devices in the area of like a square kilometer, which would be thousands and go from thereAre sim cards name registered to the user in USA?
>>515656696all the tech trannies on xitter say you should take your sim card out at the very least and heavily recommend phones with removable batteries
>>515656582Do you know how your phone transmits and receives? How the data is encrypted? I suspect not, tip, it needs the OS to be running. Most people don't know what FSK (the old method) is or how to recognize it on a spectrum. I admit I don't know much, but I know a bit about how my phone works.
>>515650705this was in the comments on rtTimeline so far:Multiple students at the target university make strange tiktok/twitter posts about something bad happening to charlie kirkShooter manages to set up on a roof unnoticedShooter waits for charlie to talk about gun violence before taking a single accurate shot at his brain stem, a tactic exclusively used by anti-terrorist police and military (people seen cheering in the crowd when he dies)Shooter quickly exits while jewish man George Zinni makes a fuss in the crowd, drawing police attention, aligning with the mossad tactic of sayanim (civilian assistants)Private jet takes off from Provost airport after ~an hour. Private jet goes off radar illegallyPrivate jet comes back onto radar travelling back towards the Provost airport it came fromPrivate jet is owned by an orthodox jewish Chabad Lubavitch rabbiNetanyahu announces Charlie Kirk’s death before any news media outlet.
>>515656780>'m not going to elaborateBecause you can't. Without a running OS your phone can not connect to a cell phone network. You can power down your phone such that the OS stops running.
>>515649867Oh my!
>>515656472>that needs a cpu and OS to be running to be running to work just to ping a cell tower.Totally incorrect, the SoC needs to be running, android/IOS does not. YOU DO NOT NEED TO AUTHENTICATE TO PING A CELL TOWER. You need to authentication to send data to other endpoints on the carrier for sure, not to the tower itself .>>515656969>Do you know how your phone transmits and receives?yes>How the data is encrypted?yes>tip, it needs the OS to be runningSoC software yes, android/IOS absolutely not>Most people don't know what FSK (the old method) is or how to recognize it on a spectrum. Been installing CASR1 lines since before your were born and the last time I had an FSK burst open in Audacity to analyze it was less than a month ago.And you can disagree with me all you want, but remember I (probably?) alone in this thread can turn off my phone and see from the carrier's point of view what is sent. Please put the turds back in your asses or pass them off to a jeet (i hear they love those things)
>>515651441My old phone used to show you in metres the 9 nearest towers.Thats a very accurate triangulation point.
>>515656897you start by populating a list of phones at the event and then you trace to see which one went running cross the parking lot and away towards where the rifle was found>are sims registered?if you have a contract with a major company then yes but not all prepaid carriers
>>515657096this
Alright, alright, Mr. Agent. You win. You're right. People can totally just tap the little "Power Off" slider, and it completely stops the transmission of location data. Absolutely, 100%. And people can go do retarded crimes and they won't be tracked as long as they just turn it off, not screen lock. I get it now
>>515649867>Presents phone
>>515649952And you're the retard who gets caught on your first kill because your victim's and your own phone were in the same place together.
>>515656696The power off function disables the CPU and SSD. Because it is needed to update the OS or your phone would be useless. Without the CPU and SSD running almost all of the phones function is disabled. The encryption is not running, this is part of the OS that needs to be upgraded from time to time. Without this running your phone can not work with a modern cell tower of wifi.
>>515650293>>515651077>>515651359Airplane mode.
>>515657461So this how is how zoomers do research? Did GoogleGPT give you the ultimate undeniable truth? We're fucked when it's zoomers' turn to run shit
>>515649801Its a university campus, there are thousands of people on them at any given time, and at larger schools tens of thousands. This doesn't exactly narrow it down, especially when the guy looks like the most generic white guy of all time.
He's already back in Israel
>>515650707>If they actually want to find it they need to put up a reward,There is a reward
>>515657477>People can totally just tap the little "Power Off" sliderMost people do not know how to power off their phone. They think the tap the power button or blank screen is powered off. It is not. It is possible to do however if you bother to learn how you phone works. You may have seen it bu accident when your phone does an annoying OS update and it has to reboot. This "feature" can be done manually if you know how.
>>515657371>and then you trace to see which one went running cross the parking lotit doesn't work like that. Accuracy of triangulating from transmitters is really limited, especially in urban area. But they definitely could make a list of like 10k people and then check them all, one by oneif he had prepaid and destroyed it, not much can be done with this anyway
>>515649801It's a dummy phone. He is trying to trick the FBI into thinking the shooter was among the list of phones in the area. He operated completely in the dark.
>>515651359>. If you do anything nefarious it's best to leave your phone at home while it's still onThat's what I (would) do.
>>515649801It's the gun not a phonefacts so far>shoved rifle down his right pant leg>seen on video limping towards school>climbed stairs very oddly to the roof>assembled it then ran on to the roof and layed prone>shot but not professional kill but good enough (a pro would not expose themselves on a roof and hit him between the eyes easily)>wrapped rifle in a towell>did a controlled ONE ARM descent off the roof (rock climber)>skinny as fuck like a competitive rock climber>sprinted back the way he came (no limp)>ditched rifle in woods>ran thru ppls back yardsFeds just need to take all the pics they haven't released and ask around rock climbing gyms hey who's this guy and he's cooked because they all know each other
>>515657978>ran thru ppls back yardsHe knew the area? Must have been local or former student.
>>515657600Why do you keep repeating that? Software can run on a computer system without "the OS". Just like the BIOS/UEFI on PCs. It's the same on ARM SoC, there's lower-level firmware that handles booting. And could conceivably keep running while the phone is in low-power mode. I think it's likely actually. And I don't think you need encrypted material from the storage system to ping the towers. It's why there's a low-level identification system built-in the SIM cards. We're only talking about doing location tracking here.
>>515650554The rifle is 30-06 Mauser.You don't put it in your pocket.
>>515657666>We're fucked when it's zoomers' turn to run shitSo true, but ChatGPT is surprisingly right in this case. What it failed to mention:>1. Phone can record location with next to no power and transmit it on powerup>2. Just hitting "Power Off" probably hibernates your phone (Samsung/Apple)>3. Long press on power button till the phone just blanks - actually off - in most devices >4. I don't know if long press on a samsung can prevent #1>>515656897>Are sim cards name registered to the user in USA?Most in the US are, especially if you have a flagship device as BYOD is generally to expensive for the normie that wants the newest thing. But prepaid phones do still exist with no name reg.
>>515649801ftm, big hips, knees apart down stairs, no penis
>>515657600>The power off function disables the CPU and SSDIf it's an iPhone, this isn't true. The 'Find my iPhone' feature is still functional in the power off mode. The phone is still contacting towers, connected to the internet and is still reporting its location in a way that can be tracked by both the user and any other interested party.
>>515658121>And could conceivably keep running while the phone is in low-power mode. Why is there speculation? It's been admitted years ago that this is what they do. They claimed it to be a security feature in case your phone gets stolen. It's really to prosecute crime.
>>515649801I think it’s his cock , the doctors actually flatten them in a press , a few days before amputation.
>>515649801dude fbi sent him and extracted him with a plane
>>515649801>everyone’s stupid except meIs this hubris or something else?
>>515658317What about when the phone is supposed to be "really off"? That is, when you hold down the power button, OS shutsdown, OS does a real restart next time. Does the firmware keep running in this case?It would still be consuming power. Which would be a bit of a problem I think. But it could be very low. Maybe not much distinguishable from natural battery self-discharge. Depending on what it does.
>>515658121Sure there is some ROM that has a bios in it to boot a phone, that gets activated when you push a button while your phone is powered off. There is also a clock. This is not like decrypting a GPS signal in real time. You can not crack a cell phone signal. Because it is encrypted. The OS does this. The encryption stops when the OS stops. The GPS stops when the CPU is not running. They are powered down so that the encryption software can be updated if required.
>>515652614>Do phones constantly log their GPS coordinates?Yes, so long as you leave your GPS on and don't shut it off. They don't really need GPS to track you anyways, they can just use the tower ping logs from your phone to figure out if you were in x place at y time with it. Even if you're nearby and connected to a tower your phone is regularly sending out a mass ping to every tower within its broadcast range. When the towers recieve the ping they ping the phone back and the phone connects to whichever tower had the fastest response time. With two towers, the log data, and some math they can approximate your location down to a couple feet. Hell, the more well funded police depts are running their own fake stinger towers too.
>>515658147fortunately commies like expensive, capitalistic stuff. And they are retarded. So chances are the guy was on a telephone plan
>>515658664It is a very low amount of power consumed. The pings are spread far apart. Phones actually reserve power when it shuts down at "0%" for the purpose of location tracking. I've seen it transmit for 5 days after the juice "ran out"
>>515657600>power off function disables the CPUGood fucking lord you're fucking stupid. If a power off "disabled" the CPU how the fuck do you turn the phone back on again you fucking fuck? What the fuck does "disable the cpu" even mean you absolute retard?>disables the SSDDo you mean the drive is unmounted? Well yeah of course it is because the Operating System is suspended or terminated, doesn't mean the SoC can't remount it if needed though.>>515658121>a computer system without "the OS". Just like the BIOS/UEFI on PC>anon just applying some basic common sense computer knowledgeListen to the leaf who obviously understands this a little more than you.>>515658224>The 'Find my iPhone' feature is still functional in the power off mode.Don't have an iPhone can't confirm, but isn't their a "full shutdown" where that doesn't work? (Is on my android)Anons, all of you. Check your phones, see if you have a feature to turn it on at a certain time. (I do). If you do, and if that works. Your phone is not fully powered off./t. Put Wiretaps on People before for LI (legally)
>>515657901it can be narrowed thoughthere were a lot of people around the event at the time of the shooting but how many left immediately?a bunch stayed therehow many of those that left immediately went in the compass direction of the rifle location?it gets smaller fast>prepaid destroyedif he bought a prepaid phone just for the event he must have really wanted to keep in contact with somebodymaybe there are call logs stored in the cell company cloudif didn't buy it for the event than it's just their phone everyday and full of just as much info as anyone else's personal phonehas the IP been to faceburg recently?Gmail?google may not have a name but it can tell you where home is by logging regular charging and use locationsfind the phone IP and you find where the shooter lives and works if they have a job their emails and their backed up selfies
I work in infosec. Lots of wrong information here. If the phone is powered down it does not ping any towers or transmit wifi etc, the primary OS is needed to do that. Newer model iphones when powered down will transmit beacons over blue tooth low energy to other Apple devices in proximity (maybe 50-100 feet ) and piggyback over the adjacent phone to report it’s approx location to the “Find My” network. This relies on adjacent phones have internet connectivity.
>>515658333this anon knows what he's talking about. listen to the man. Experience can't be overvalued.
>>515658664Unless you completely run the battery flat or remove it some of the hardware like that still draws a small charge. Even if your phone shuts off saying it's at 1% its not actually flat until it completely refuses to even display any low power screens or LEDs.
>>515658944Studies have been done on this, and many people have been saved by phone pings days after their phone died enough to stop being usable.
>>515658899iPhones remain active in a very low battery location tracking mode for days after you turn them 'off'. There is no fully off mode available to you as a user. It's meant to be to discourage theft.
>>515659104Hell, how do you think findmyiphone style apps work even if the thief shuts the phone off or runs it dry?
>>515649801I'm sure he thought of that OP
>>515658724>This is not like decrypting a GPS signal in real time.I think it's mostly handled by the GPS chip. Could definitively be done in firmware code too.GPS encryption is NOT end-to-end, it's the same thing for everyone.GPS encryption was only there to limit the precision that's available to the general public. The keys were gradually revealed to the public. High-precision tracking isn't considered to be a threat anymore.>You can not crack a cell phone signal. Because it is encrypted.That's during the "main phase" of the protocol. There are unencrypted handshakes that set things up. This is enough to locate and identity you. The protocol does not even need to reach this phase, it's what the "pings" are.
>>515658944>This relies on adjacent phones have internet connectivity.there are lots of such phones at the eventlots of internetswonder where he turned it off?if he did it nearby a phone suddenly powered off by user in the vicinity of the shooting would probably be a short list
>>515657730>what is contact tracing
I'd obviously carry a phone so they sort through IMEI to find nothing because the phone had no battery to begin with.
>>515659104Not sure what your point is. I assume you are agreeing with me that in that specific case, a secondary iphone that participates in the find my network came into proximity to the lost iphone , causing a like over the apple backbone to find my network , via the internet connection of the non lost phone . If you aren’t understanding please read my original post more carefully.
>>515659283What, you mean the thing that worked so poorly, we gave up on it shortly after the pandemic started?
>>515658899>how the fuck do you turn the phone back on again you fucking fuck?There is a small ROM that holds a bios to boot a phone. This loads a tiny piece of software that gets activated when a phone is off and you push the power button.
>>515659350>he thinks its goneO I am laffin
I think it may have been a folding stock. Weapon down his leg folding stock up top folding down, that would be the outline in his pants.
>>515659319You're right but on a university campus, you're going to be surrounded by thousands of other iPhones that will happily report the location of your powered down device to Apple's backend, so it makes no difference whether your phone is doing the reporting directly to the internet or whether it's another phone reporting on your behalf. Powering your phone down effectively does nothing to prevent the location being reported in densely populated areas where other iPhones are plentiful
>>515659411Maybe something like a desert tech r7sRemove the back and top par of the stock and you got the two beams outlined in his pants, maybe
>>515659319You're the one who's mistaken anon, those types of apps use all trackable functions to locate the phone, including GPS and carrier tower pings. People have tracked stolen phones several cities away, and even outside the country using those sorts of apps.
>>515659496
>>515657665>Airplane mode.TheyFellForItMode
>>515659258I’d say, they could pull all find my devices with warrants to apple if that’s even feasible for the location of the shooter when they were on foot and caught on close surveillance pictures and then do a second subpoena for the find my network for all devices in the area of the rooftop and see what duplications they have. I don’t know how plausible this is or what gotchas there are I’m just spitballing
>>515649867And now you know why losing weight makes your cock bigger.
>>515651647That's how guns work, retard
>>515659591Scope on the side maybe.
>>515659591>>515659411They already have the rifle, it's a solid stock generic sporting goods store rifle. That looks more like a large phone in the pocket of a skinnyfat possible antifa punk.
I guess he's long time left the country now.
>>515659539I have no idea what you are talking about. For apple devices they use BTLE to ping lateral devices and piggyback off the find my network. I am not talking about androids and have no experience with their hardware at that level to make a comment on it
>>515658798>With two towers, the log data, and some math they can approximate your location down to a couple feet.yeah, isn't this part of how shimomura found mitnick?
>>515659143 (pic not rel)>There is no fully off mode available to you as a user. kek, does sound like apple... does it have a delay? How long between you clicking "find my iphone" and getting info on it if it's "Powered Off"? Seconds? Minutes?>>515659355 (Picrel for (you))>There is a small ROM that holds a bios to boot a phone. This loads a tiny piece of software that gets activated when a phone is off and you push the power button.No, there's a battery board (with ROM and some machine code, sure) that sends pulses to the SoC (there is no conventional CPU on a modern smartphone btw, it's a subcomponent of a single chip), the SoC has the bios that loads the bootloader that mounts your drives that boot the phone. STOP TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. Please... So many anons here are smarter than you, just listen and learn.
>>515659781Canada or Dead
>>515659632AAAAAAAAAAAAAAWAIT WASN'T THERE A STORY ABOUT A STRANGE GUY ON THAT ROOF BEING SEEN BY STUDENTS?WE NEED A PHONE THAT HAS BEEN THERE ON THOSE DATES OR SWITCHED OFF ON THOSE DATES!!!!
>>515659773That doesnt mean anything. Could be planted the day before.Member they still say oswalt was the only shooter of kennedy, and they found a bolt action. We all know there were multiple shooter and oswalt was a patsy.They planted a distraction rifle
Apparently OP has never heard of airplane mode or “turning your phone off”.
Turn off phonefool glowniggers with this one weird trick
>>515659783Yes but apple devices still ping carrier towers in low power mode, and some of those apps have agreements with carriers to use that data for tracking the phones. Low power mode tower pinging is a consistent standard, it doesnt matter if you're using an android or apple device.
You're basically doing Kash's job for free because he's incompetent as fuck.
>>515650227Even if cell towers would log unsuccessful connection attempts for long, they very likely have milliseconds for the log timestamps. Light travels 300 kilometers in a millisecond.
>>515657665unironically might be safer with an iphone. Especially if the engineers who designed the feature believed the FTC bull shit about "rogue transmission signals can damage our equipment". Which would actually be hilarious, but I'm sure LEA have asked them to fix that by now.
>>515659773Also picrel
>>515659942not for free
>>515658882>The pings are spread far apart.How far apart?If you know who you're tracking, even very far apart pings would be useful. Less so if you're searching for any suspicious behavior in a general area.
>>515649801>putting a radio transmitter next to your ballswhy are people retarded
>>515659937Airplane mode probably doesnt stop this?
>>515659883I think you guys are mostly right if it’s possibleto get clean data , that there should be an angle where they do a compare of phones that were in the promote of the up close surveillance shots at the same time the shooter was seen there and dedupe against the area of the rooftop and the time of the shot. If the phone was off or even if it was left on, i’m not sure how accurate the location data is
>>515659257>unencrypted handshakesThe handshakes are still encrypted. That is why I can not just set up a fake cellphone tower with my PC, a transmitter, and an antenna. I need the encryption or I could make a fake cell tower and "handshake" to your phone and listen to your calls. This encryption software needs to be updated with new protocols from time to time. To update the software it has to halt. This is how a proper power down (not the blank screen power down) works. It is possible to do this with my phone manually. Your phone may be different.
>>515659997What do you think all the big carrier datacenters all over the continent are for? Storing and parsing that information for x amount of time in case LEO's need it.
>>515649801What if he took out the battery and sim card, would it be traceable then?
>>515660079IIRC they don't really make a difference anymore with most modern aviation or medical equipment, airplane mode mostly still only exists because it's a legal standard.
>>515649801Big ass phone for a Lil ahh dude
>>515655761Unironically a mushroom trip.
>>515651920Yup
>>515649952they have him on Ring cameras in the neighbouring neighbourhood, so it is 2 clicks to find all phones within 20 metres of those streets at a particular time. you should never have your phone if you are intent on committing crime. if he is a proper hitman he could have it in a bag which blocks signals though, a faraday pouch
did anyone watch 3000mules?the documentary about the 2020 election?they followed 300 phones that visited hundreds of ballot boxes during the voting and assumed at least some were stuffing for the demsthe makers of the film did this by buying cell user data for the entire city in the time period they wanted directly from cell companies the same way advertisers buy your data4chan could do this if somebody has the cash and the tism for it
>>515649801Interesting
>>515653809Well no, the FBI claims to offer up to 100k for tips, then never does pay a cent, TMZ just actually does pay, and the American people know this.
>>515660098it’s 6 months to 3 years in some cases , + Apple Find My Iphone location data is not encrypted server side with the users own private key (similar to email ) , so that location data is accessible via subpoena (assuming find my service was not disabled on the phone ). With modern phones you can enable advanced data protection , which encrypts your icloud backups (pictures , imessage etc) with your own private key . in that case even if apple is subpoenaed , your data is in encrypted blobs on their central servers .right now we are making different assumptions though , that the shooter had an iphone , or any phone , it wasn’t faraday caged , that it was powered on if they did have it , etc
>>515657068Somewhere on twatter it was said that the flight was planned to pickup the couple that owns it. Data at adsbexchange shows a flight out on 9/7 at about 5 PM, and the pilot returns after 6. This plane was grounded for over a month leading up to this. The plane had been flown twice to the Page airport on 8/6 and 8/9. Prior to that, the plane was flown out 2 days to Saint Louis from 7/30 to 8/1. It's recent flight history includes several flights to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, and a trip to Guayaquil, Ecuador.Timing is incredibly suspect, and provides a perfect alibi for an escape plotted a month in advance. It is unclear to me at what point in time the event had been set for September 10. I would question whether the cameras at either of the municipal airports have any footage of the aircraft during these last 4 trips it's made to Page (8/6, 8/9; 9/7, 9/10), particularly cameras outside covering the runway, on poles in the parking lot, etc. Given what we know about the owners of the jet, it is probable that the jet sits at Duncan Aviation while in Provo, and likely drops off passengers at Million Air at the southern end of the Page airport - both of these appear to be private companies with leases to operate so it is unclear what cameras would be publicly owned and which would be private.In any case, the footage should be reviewed. If this pilot was just going to pick up the couple, then the footage should reflect that.
>>515655846lmao the shooter was obviously mossad.
>>515660087I hate you so much it's not even funny.>That is why I can not just set up a fake cellphone tower with my PC, a transmitter, and an antenna.Cell phone connectivity is a lot more expensive than that but YES if you had the HW you absolutely could do this... There's one running in my team's lab right now that is exactly what you just described.>fake cell tower and "handshake" to your phone and listen to your callsNo you fucking fuck of a fucking retard you're not a Publicly Switched Telephone Network, you can intercept the calls, you can't route them to an endpoint on a network you don't own you fuck. God Damn I hate you. If you had two users on your fake network you could connect them and tap their lines. t. I DO IT EVERYTIME I NEED TO REPRODUCE AN ISSUE YOU FUCKAnyone wanna CKirk this stupid kiwi for me?
>>515650707the reward is over $1million
>>515652907because your never know when you'll need to give someone a reach around
>>515660087>The handshakes are still encrypted.That's not possible. Encryption is progressively established over multiple protocol exchanges.>I need the encryption or I could make a fake cell tower and "handshake" to your phone and listen to your calls.No, not necessarily. Mutual authentication can happen at a later stage. There's no reason to require full authentication for "pings".I don't know exactly what the protocol is like for cell phones but I know how SSL/SSH and the like work. I assume it's fairly similar.If they want to track you, the protocol can EASILY be designed to allow it without encryption getting in the way. And I think it's extremely likely that it's how it works. They're not going to make tracking more difficult for no reason. The low-level identification coming from the SIM-card is probably one of the first thing that's exchanged.
>>515660098They certainly will not use special hardware and operating system customization just to be able to triangulate. Mobile is a competitive market. Location data is processed by tracking companies, but they use the location data from the personal devices, which is coming from the signal strengths, and their primary customers are advertising, and recently HR, fintech, insurance.
>>515660385Why would he even bring a phone? They meet at a prediterment location and get back to israel
>>515656897if he didn't have GPS on, triangulating the phone without knowing the number is next to impossible. Just get every phone that was turned on that day in that area and then check every single person that wasn't in the crowd. It will take some time, but it's better than letting him get away.
>>515660519basically an evil twin attack but using cell proto instead of wifi
>>515660708He gets half an hour to get a good shot and the job done, when (((they))) hear the shot, the timer starts running, then other mossad agents start the car at the location and drive to a safehouse.If he cant make the shot in a certain time they abort and do it on another campus
>>515649801>>515659723if this guy had the gun hidden like that, it should have shit load of DNA all over it. they can trace his familial tree with it.
>>515660715that's what I said
>>515649801>phone>twice as tall as his fucking hand from fingertip to wristWhat kind of retarded clown phone are you using?
>>515660897> then other mossad agents start the car at the location and drive to a safehouse.And ofcourse wait for the shooter before driving to safehouse
>>515660519>There's one running in my team's lab right nowFucking glowie.>if you had the HW you absolutely could do thisBullshit. You need the encryption from the cell company. And transmitter HW is not hard to get. Even old cell phone tower HW is easy to steal if you want. But it is useless without the encryption, which is hard to get. unless you are a glowie, probably still tricky. You can not track my phone when it is powered off. Because it is not transmitting. Because it needs encryption to transmit. That encryption has to halt when my phone is powered down to enable software updates.
>>515660715>It will take some timedoubt that. modern AI tech and survelliance can be used to filter down the suspects really fast.
>>515660960I accidentally copied your post. It sometimes happens when you higlight some text in a post.
>>515649867could it be a phone in a faraday bag
The mobile plan provider can triangulate the sim card
>>515660927Yes but he took it with him in the bag, folded. The other rifle was a distraction.
thats a pack of zyns
>>515660696>I know how SSL/SSH and the like work.Right. Does the SSL and SSH run when the OS is not running?Exactly. You can power down the OS and the encryption halts. So you can update it. So power down the phone and the encryption halts. I know how they work too.
>>515661099Its not a phone, its a folding stockThe dude is long, the middle part of the outline in oants is lower than the sides.Its something like this without the back and without the top chinrest
>>515661227>Right. Does the SSL and SSH run when the OS is not running?Nothing stopping it from running in hardware or firmware.
>>515650142>Two points >Triangulate
>>515659723No fucking wonder people said he was limping
>>515660313So basically if someone HAS to bring a phone the battery should be 0% and you bring a powerbank if you want to make a call. I dont think any assasin would bring a phone thoughverbeit
I do love how lads are still autistically arguing about phones when it was clearly never a phone from the beginning lol
>>515660979He's 6'1.
>>515661314>Nothing stopping it from runningIt is a part of the OS. It stops when the OS stops. If it did not stop you could not update the encryption. It is an absolutely necessary vital part of an OS to update encryption.
>>515660715if gps is off , the phone transmits encrypted BLTE beacons to adjacent in range phones and the receiving phone uses their own GPS to upload the location into the find my mesh network. (if find my is enabled on the shooter phone ). the third fallback is if wifi is on , apple maintains a massive list of wifi ssids and their location , but less accurate , the fourth fallback if gps is off is celltowertriangulation . gps is ideal but if not there are ways to try and analyze a pattern of devices that were closer to the rooftop at the time of the shot , and then in the wooded area after the shot , and on the campus directly at the time the up close surveillance photos were taken. not full proof but worth looking at.
>>515661418Yes, and you see his leg on stairs is straight, this is how you walk if you have a broken leg with a casting. On all screenshots from the camera his right leg is always straight.He had a foldingstock type gun, the gun found is a distraction gun. Mossad took him to a safehouse. He had no phone on him
maybe he just has a big cock?
>>515661517There are actually full SSL implementation in UEFI now. Used for HTTPS boots for example.So why couldn't it be done on ARM SoC?
>>515651651Do you think they get a lot of foot traffic through those woods he left through?
>>515661039>Fucking glowie.Are you a jeet? I've never met a white person as dumb as you, I work for phone companies, not three letter agencies. I only interact with LEA when the level 1/2 guys can't get Lawful Intercept (wiretapping) configured properly>Bullshit. You need the encryption from the cell company.No you don't, you need the legal right to broadcast in the bands though or the real glowies are going to be knocking on your door in under an hour if you live anywhere near civilization. >And transmitter HW is not hard to get.Hard to get? Not really, Huawei would sell to to a company that kidnapped their grandma. It's expensive as fuck though. 250k to give yourself coverage the size of a football field at least.>But it is useless without the encryption, which is hard to get. unless you are a glowiewat>Even old cell phone tower HW is easy to steal if you want.Well if you stole it you would need someone like me to make it work, clearly with your IQ you're not going to be able to do anything.>You can not track my phone when it is powered off. Depends on your phone as has been said in this thread about 100 times.>Because it needs encryption to transmit.NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T and even if it did, guess where your key is stored... It's on your phone ya fuckwit.>That encryption has to haltYou mean the session ends? This is such utter jeet nonsense I don't even know what an encryption halting could fucking possible mean. >>515660870Haha, never in my career have I heard of anyone doing this for nefarious reasons. Equipment is too expensive and risk/reward of operating illegally on these frequencies is INSANE. You will go to jail so fucking quick in any country. But there are legitimate reasons for this but Oil/Mining companies setup private 4g/5g clouds so they can communicate within their teams via cellphones. Some(but not all) will connect that back to the PSTN over VoIP (needs licenses in most countries).
>>515649867Probably a Pro Max, typical credit purchase for niggercattle.
>>515650554TMZ was very tuned in when it happened toohttps://www.bitchute.com/video/TCZ3IPvrL6qT - TMZ crew cheer the death of Charlie Kirkhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/0qEdSBNRD1e5 - TMZ issues "clarification" and apology over “tone death laughter” that could be heardhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/rAahwijIIJ2G - longer vid of death announcement
>>515661658Basically this>>515660897
>>515661126>Yes but he took it with him in the bag, folded.Hang on, if he could fold the rifle and put it in his bag to leave the scene, why would he arrive with it down the leg of his pants? That makes no sense bro
>>515661662Looks like one of those pee funnels trannies practice with before they get the fake cock.
>>515661951The sides stick out from the bag, it was a sloppy getaway. The bag is half open when he jumps off the roof. It doesnt fir completely in the bag
>>515661227the iphone literally sends encrypted BLTE beacons when the phone is powered down. it’s not done on the primary OS in thjs example. when the priMary OS is powered down the bluetooth chip and the Secure Enclave remain in a low power mode . this allows beconing but also key rotation as well because of the power left on the SE. Thr master key is stored in the secure enclave and every 15 minutes a new ephemeral key is derived from the master key. Not following the entire convo and maybe not relevant entirely but for Iphones specifically there is nuance as far as what chips are powered down completely and don’t have neutered firmware in that state.
>>515662028Of maybe only the folding stock sticks out and the barrel is in the bag. Making it hard to identify its a rifle for avg people.Also people are panicking, not many are really paying attention at a dude walking wirh bag. They all have bags
its a hatchet
>>515661795I can listen to cell phone signals on a fucking $15 SDR. I can not decrypt any part of those signals (Here in N.Z. anyway not some 3rd world shithole using obsolete cracked tech). Not the "pings" or any part of the signal. Because I don't have the decryption software.
cool thread but... What if it's the most spohosticated gigga glow nigga palantir maxxed best korea spying system which can triangulate any anus on the world, but the dei illegals who operate it are just too retardedto navigate the jeet code. would be funny if they're too incompetent to actually use it lmaoalso they don't wanna make it public to stop turning this into another luigi esque situation
>>515662028Yeah ok that makes sense then. You'd think if the cunt had this all planned out, which he generally seems to have, you'd think he'd have some way of concealing the rifle properly for his departure.
>>515661795not really my area. Our main concerns in my neck of the woods is stopping SIM swap attacks. that does enough damage though slightly different use case
>>515662230A big rifle type bag is too recognizable. School bags dont get noticed. They know people are screaming and in chaos so they use that to getaway with some sloppy sides
>>515662090>iphone literally sends encrypted BLTE beacons when the phone is powered downI don't think my phone does this maybe. I usually power down the blue tooth in the OS anyway until I need to connect to something. I get no bluetooth device signals when my phone is powered down.
>”He said he shot him, but I don’t know,” an officer said about the elderly man.Does anyone know why this boomer jew George Zinn, who provided the perfect distraction to let the shooter escape, why is he not being waterboarded in Guantanemo until he starts giving some answers?
>>515662152You cannot decrypt LTE/5G traffic realistically . The algorithms are robust, and the keys are negotiated between SIM and tower. Law enforcement uses cell-site simulators called Stingrays which trick phones into connecting by downgrading them to 2G or controlled LTE. That’s how they bypass encryption legally (with warrants).To the carrier’s backend, traffic from a Stingray looks like it’s coming from another legitimate base station. This is harder on5g because if mutual auth at the tower level but the devices still will allow 4g and below downgrades making it a useful “tactic “ still
>>515662152>I can listen to cell phone signals on a fucking $15 SDRI do appreciate the proof that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. >Here in N.Z. anyway not some 3rd world shithole using obsolete cracked techI work for an international telco, where I am today doesn't reflect where I'll be next month. I've worked in Australia though and I guess NZ is pretty similar. And also, just because it's so fun showing how ignorant you are... 3rd world countries tend to have newer equipment than North America.>Not the "pings" or any part of the signal. Because I don't have the decryption software.You're listening to waves in a frequency band that is being transcoded(not even really, more like transliterated lmao) to a representative audible wavelength. You wouldn't be able to understand what people were saying over the phone even if it was completely unencrypted with an SDR. I could broadcast G722.2/iLBC/GSM completely unencrytped and your SDR would hear nothing in the Media Stream. You're just so dumb, stop talking, I beg you.
>>515662434>A big rifle type bagNa I just thought there might be a rifle available that's easy to quickly break down into bits and fit into a normal backpack.Such a rifle probably doesn't exist.
>>515662161They know exactly who he is, where he is, how many steps he took, common people. Librarian here, it’s unconstitutional to track your phone, invasion of privacy! inadmissible in court. They need actual witnesses, evidence to build a case, hence $100k, or a confession if he’s stupid. That Kohlberger guy idioticly plead guilty or took a plea. Idiot needed better lawyers.
>>515662516Ah I should have mentioned that. If you power off bluetooth before turning the phone off , your bluetooth chip will not broadcast encrypted BLTE beacons to neighboring devices. Turning off gps or turning on airplane mode is still fair game . bluetooth radio must be manually disabled regardless of airplane mode
>>515662904Those exist but maybe less reliable and need to be shot in again maybe? Doesnt make sense he was limping. Or maybe it was partially assembled in his pants and he disassemled it completely after the shot.
>>515662738I can record a cell signal with an SDR. If I had the software I could decrypt it. I do not have the software. The entire thing is encrypted. I can decript some FSK (probably what you use in your shithole country) with publicly available software but not cell phone coms. Because I don't and can't get the software.
>>515662662Accidental?
>>515663103curious, when you playback the recording is it garbled audio or is jsut a broken data stream that isn’t in any playable format ? I assume if not decrypted it wouldn’t be recognized by a media decoder
>>515650031and how do you think they determine the closest tower, Klaus?
>>515663450owned
>>515663103>I can record a cell signal with an SDR.Sure >If I had the software I could decrypt it.No you would need the keys, you can get the software.> The entire thing is encrypted.I never said the fucking phoen calls weren't encrypted, OF COURSE THEY ARE, but I don't think you know anything about cryptography....>I can decript some FSK Ahh I'm right you don't know the difference between decrypt and decode, you're not decrypting an FSK you're decoding it. Look up what a codec is, it seems you're confused about it. (and most FSK in the world is in the Americas btw, so if you think I'm from vietnam once again you're retarded, if you're calling the US a 3rdworld shithole then you're mildly more clever than I thought)>Because I don't and can't get the software.No retarded little bird, you can't get the keys, not about software. (Though in some cases CODECs are licensed and even if you decrypted them you wouldn't be able to transcode them to something you could understand(legally)). So that would count as software I guess.
>>515663361It is a data stream. This site. .iaru-r1.org/spectrum/monitoring-system/iarums-wiki/psk/Has some audio.
>>515663562I thought he was trying to say that he lived in a third world area where they are still using 2g and he could reasonably intercept unencrypted calls. otherwise, the idea is sure to a wireshark packet packet capture of tls encrypted traffic is it not ? you can load a capture into wireshark but if you don’t load the master key and session keys sit the capture its junk data
