Previous: >>515748701Day 1,297 – Daily assessment: https://understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>Polish Government spokesman: At Poland's request, consultations were held under Article 4 of the North Atlantic Treaty>several russian drones entered Poland>moskovites deliberately targeted elderly in one of the villages with an aerial bomb, more than 20 dead>The AFU liberated Boykivka and Zatyshok, Dobropillia direction. Units are now trying to encircle the Russian Forces in the bridgehead. 05.09.2025>According to Zelenskyy Trump is very unhappy that russian oil is being bought by Europe (mainly by Hungary and Slovakia)>26 countries are committed to deploying troops in Ukraine as reassurance forces or to being present on the ground, at sea or in the air - Macron>monke said [funny stuff]>Half of the russian regions rolled into an industrial recession>The number of first-graders in russia collapsed by 25% in two years>The village of Udachne in the Pokrovsk direction has been liberated. Ukrainian military has raised the Ukrainian flag there – General Staff of Ukraine>As a result of a successful counteroffensive, the Armed Forces of Ukraine cleared the salient north of Kolesnykova>Trump tells he is "disappointed" in monke and that he will be "doing something to help people live.">The Ukraine General Staff announced Novoekonomichine (Pokrovsk direction) was fully liberated.>The State duma has quietly admitted that russia is now in recession▶Telegramhttps://rentry.org/telosint2023https://t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelhttps://t.me/DeepStateENhttps://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)https://ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapshttps://deepstatemap.live/enhttps://liveuamap.com/en▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOUR 1: files.catbox.moe/34fuhc.txtTOUR 2: files.catbox.moe/uj2wut.txtTOUR 3: files.catbox.moe/hmyd98.txtTOUR 4: files.catbox.moe/cdenxe.txt
>>515773232When will the pigkraine stop losing?
>>515773232Based. TZD
Add the Primorsk strikes to the headline in the next bake. Very significant development as it is Russia's largest oil export terminal.
seriously ukraine is a shithole being invaded by another shithole, why do you guys care so much about it? Absolutely baffling how retarded you guys are about ukraine...
Did you know that based trad Russia still practices slavery? There's a little nuance tho...
>>515773426Explain?>>515773424Kikes are based, they’re killing sandniggers and snowniggers. I know I know I’m as surprised as you.
>>515773607>Kikes are based
>>515773507>pee pee poo poo
It was hilarious seeing Mearshpidor defend Charlie Kirk last thread.
>>515754257anyone has the original?
>>515773687cool story, rabbi
>>515773690those lazy comfy fucking pidors!!!back to the front with them!!!
>>515773687Trannies all support palestine and hate Ukraine. How coincidental
>>515773507Yes my American comrade I feel the same as well, but actually I would go further to say it is time that we acknowledge that Russia is simply the superior shithole
>>515773232Blessed to have rheinmetall stocks
>>515773705>muh only response is>pee pee poo pooyeah exactly what I meant.
>>515773804>Some weird schizoid ramblings
sorry for posting in next thread and depriving you guys of your (you)>>515764226dissent does not require a figurehead, but I believe its not really comparable to the state that Russia was in back then either.>>515764393>to unlock your money, please sign military contractsounds like something taken out of tencent's playbook lol>>515765185materially I agree with you, Russia had tons of cash and a huge stockpile of weapons and vehicles at the start of the war, and it only seems now that they have manage to exhaust those resources to the point that they cant maintain high frontline activity.but there is also the manpower availability and morale support as a resource, which although quite different from how it looked in WW1 I would still like to make a comparison to.if russia isnt getting the volunteer numbers that they did a year ago, it shows a decrease in manpower availability and morale back home.how long do you think this will go on?>>515765450>this is what happend when corrupt and inept glowniggers take over your statemany such cases>>515769211>>515769876I enjoy Perun's videos too, most other commentators get lost in the numbers game when it comes assessing an economy when in reality it still comes down to actual material output and resource management. money is a good representation of economic activity but at the end of a day, if you have x amount of factories with y amount of resources and z amount of people to make stuff, you are going to produce materiel based on those.
>>515773507America is a shithole too. Doesn't mean we're gonna just sit by and let White People be murdered by a pack of vile niggers. That's something only White Americans do to each other. We Europeans have a heart.
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>>515773853HOLY SHIT it's the 4th Guards Tank Division!
>>515773924so schizoid that Russian courts banned it?
>>515773924>he’s just not a kike, dear leader is just… he’s just NOT!!! Ok?!?!?!?!?!Lmao
>>515773607Major happening in the past 24hrs. Russia's largest oil export terminal was hit by drones. Several ships lit up and port infrastructure burning.
>>515773507russia is the #1 source of civilization decay in the world today. for the future of humanity as a whole, it is vitally important that russia be destroyed
Okay, too many "US" and other retards in the night shift it seems, and it's time to go to bed for this Boomer anywaySo TZD/TZC and don't give the shills too many /you/sdon't want them to get fat on the 0.15 rubles a post
Re the Kirk kerfuffle (Kirkfuffle?)He was anti European and pro russian but on many occasions RE: that he changed his mind.Mainly one of his last actions was mourning Iryna which is code for russians are niggers
>>515773955Imagine being so retarded that you think you're responding to an actual burger.
>>515773854>Trannies all support palestine and hate Ukraine.you guys really are this retarded, huh?
>>515773574Can't forget about another great Russian tradition like incest.
>>515774083>Join Nazi brigade>Get kicked out for anti-semitismNazism is heckin tolerant and inclusive, chud.
>>515773867nah they're all jewish run shitholes
>>515774131Lmao>based trad russia only has one thing going for itself and teenagers with drones are crashing it with no survivorsConsequences long/short term?
does anyone have some kino catbox files to share?
>>515774335>the pic says itLmao ok ling ling show up to a palestine rally with a Ukrainian flag see what happens
>>515773267Into the trash you go.
>>515774234GN Saksbro
>>515774386>achkyually wikipedia said it, checkmate!Are you 12
>>515774395>pee pee poo poo
>>515774472Not kino perhaps. But rekt tier stuff.>A Russian schoolkids jumped from the 14th floor because his parents refused to buy him a new PChttps://files.catbox.moe/qww3js.mp4
>>515774472I too want Watching russians die heals me
>>515774603Wew lucky that the ambulance arrived so soon
>>515774823Gravity is russophobic
>>515773924Putin isn't a schizoid, he is just out of touch
>>515774655>Wikipedia, the most establishment biased source admitted it was true so therefore it's falsePicrel is the Aryan founder of Azov.
>>515774823For the record. he's 18.
>>515773925>how long do you think this will go on?war? it's hard to say now for sure, we will see next yearregime? even if monke dies, it will stay totalitarian shithole and slowly rot until it will totally collapse one day, ussr 2.0 scenariopretty pessimistic
>>515774456>Consequences long/short term?No good obviously. Port is completely shut down and ships are burning at pier. Could take a while to clean up and get re-started. Will definitely reduce Russia's crude oil exports until then. And drive up insurance rates for tankers still buying Russian crude.
>>515774563that pic literally shows it you dumb jew
>>515774823>Anonymous (ID: DhexF1UL) 09/13/25(Sat)01:58:34 No.515774823>>515774933kek most peaceful pagan death
>>515774823eh, probably beats getting droned in next ~2 years of 3 day SMO
>>515773507Russia is singlehandedly responsible for all european political destabilization since world war 2.They are a threat. That's why we care.
>>515774967>just… just READ THE WIKIPEDIAno lmao
>>515774967Not a founder, also, got arrested. You tried though.
>>515775042What pic
>>515774603story?
>>515775189A Cuban illegal immigrant machete'd a pajeet due to some dispute in a kitchen or something.
>>515775020Yeah, even if monke dies there will be a new monke to take his place. The prospect of Russia becoming a normal democracy that allies with the West and develops economically on par with Poland and the Baltics...very low probability. It would be wonderful if it happened, but I just don't see it happening.
>>515775031Why are drones are so russoislamophobic bros?
>>515775020grim.I appreciate your insights, thank you anon
>>515773232WHEN R7SSUAN WIN/??
>>515775300oh thank god, initally i thought that something bad had happened!
>>515773690Is this the hospital or the recruitment center
Russia Internet blocking updateTotal mobile internet shutdowns recorded in 70 regions on Sep 11. If Russia's winning, why is it blocking Internet everywhere? Even in the Far East?
>>515775322If you think that’s the plan once monke dies oooh boy.People forget how recent prygozyn’s tank run was, and a bunch of rusnigerians took pics with the actual soldiers about to turn russia into a burning pile of radioactive shit.Nah, when monke monke’s, then the devils will dance. It will likely be the most human-costing civil war in human history. Screenshot this
>>515774966I didn't mean it that way. I meant the claim was false. Since the beginning of the war, Russia has banned 0 churches. Can Ukraine say the same?Didn't Putin also do pic related? Doesn't sound very jewish to me.
>>515775741>>515775747Case in point
>>515775753I remember some of the shooters were Hungarian too. Orban and Bibi won't be happy...
>>515775741>internet not blocked in the jewish autonomous oblast
>>515775869KekCan’t let shlomo’s real family go without hentai
>>515775753oh sorry, it is from 2017. Yes, it is not true. If it was true they'd announce this everywhere. But they didn't and it's been 8 years already, and Putin keeps sucking the kosher chabad dick like a good mamzer.
>>515775175it's so tiresome watching you jews act this way.
>>515775753You are calling Putin a liar? I feel like you are a liar. Did you know that Putin made citing anti-semitic passages in the bible illegal in 2015 and got a Friend of Zion award from Israel?
he has to pee in a bag now kek
>>515775747yes and nofight between the clans in the government will be bloody, yeah civil war? naaah
>>515775143>Initially, the militia was mostly funded independently of the state, with Jewish-Ukrainian billionaire and oligarch Ihor Kolomoyskyi as their primary financier.[51][27] Umland notes the crucial role of Dnipropetrovs’k regional administration, headed by Kolomoyskyi, in Azov's creation.[37] Are you actually illiterate?
>>515775753Putin got a group of Jewish billionaires with deep ties to Israel into the most powerful positions in Russia.
>>515776314Chechnya status?
The global south does not need US/Western influence.
>jew spamSomething blew up.
>>515776356>initiallyWhy do you have photos of Russian faggots saved on your computer?
>>515776301How long were you on google searching for the right pic? Lmaohttps://youtu.be/qZh5RaUpW6k?si=hQC8cmvhAKK-Uz4MTook me 5 secs, no chinese subtitles im afraid sorry hwuang, learn Italian fgt
>>515776493They certainly want our money
>>515776306I believe Ukraine literally banned everything except that church, which is only a minority western Ukraine thing.
>>515776340Cute hopium frenGet the fuck out of there while it’s still viableThe whole >its all going to be fine Really doesn’t apply to russia
>>515776602>He doesn't know the definition of "initial" or "initially"I'm waiting to be called ESL. Do it please.
>>515776783First you call Putin a schizoid, then a liar and now you are goalpost moving again? Sad.
>>515776783Youre wrong, but if ukraine did ban everything except a catholic church thatd make them based as catholicism is infact true
>>515776604are you perhaps retarded, sorry I was doing other shit than being a kike like (((you)))
>>515776890You didn't answer the question. Why do you have Russian faggots saved on your computer?
>>515776975>I was busy ok??? finding this other pic from the same protest as the first pic, while ignoring the video that took me 2 seconds to find?Earn that gutter oil Ling Ling
>>515776826not saying everything will be 100% finei know huge amounts of murderers will return home, after-war total poverty, insane spike of violence and maaaany other "good" thingsi except the worst scenario but in a passive, rotting waybut a whole ass civil war - fuck no
What a fucking retard. Comes here shilling for Russia, by calling Putin a schizoid and a liar and posting gay Russians.
>>515777414you're definitely a retard
>>515776455managed by someone else from what I understand (not his son which is interesting)
>DAS RITE, U NAZI CRACKAmega based trad Muslims of Russia reminded the Russian cattle that nazis are le badvid: https://files.catbox.moe/u6o443.mp4
>>515775020>>515775322their future is a chinese satellite, northest of koreas. They are sneaking in the backdoor physically but recent events like panda bonds just show they are gunning to debt trap and gut pozzias remains for all its worth this does not mean no more wars but it does mean changs will use pozzia as a attack dog to stir up europe and draw attention away from their own wars in the far east As long as agent orange is around there is also the chance americans might stall this process for a while by giving money and aid to vatniks. But long term prospect of US beyond Trump is clear isolationism and retreat from both asia and europe
>>515776974Christianity is a corrupted version of Allah's (swt) message to Isa.
Why is he posting pictures of people who support both ukraine and palestine as some sort of arguement?Whats it even trying to prove?
>>515777629translation
>>515777414ur definitely a nigger lmao
>>515777763He pretends to be retarded and that nuance doesn't exist.
>>515777502You’ve basically listed like 5 massive destabilising factors yourself and there are soooo many others.GTFO there nigga
>>515775548Latinos doing the work whites won't do.
>>515777572You’re definitely avoiding that video. They won’t give you your fried rats ration if you don’t use valid arguments Li
>>515777733Did you see how Charlike Kirk get killed? I think it was dhabiha. The killer should have said tasmiyah and then that would've made his meat halal, wouldn't it? Would you prefer the rump or the loin?
No Russian soldier would’ve stabbed her to death on the bus for the crime of being white, and all of you /uhg/ kikes need to acknowledge that.
>>515777780*Liquidation is our aim
>>515777733Okay, but which islamIslam claims to be a clear religion, with a clear holy bookSo which islam is the true one? Sunni? Shia?
>>515778141No they just stab their veterans
>>515777987Mmm Peruvians are racially superior to cubans frenDon’t group yourself with them, even if he did an objectively good thing
>>515778141>No Russian soldier would’ve stabbed her to death on the bus for the crime of being white, and all of you /uhg/ kikes need to acknowledge that.picrel
>>515775747>serfs starting civil warlol. you have been listening to too much americans blabbering endlessly about le civil war. that is not how the imperial corpse of vatnikstan works
>>515774131I wonder who is insuring those tankers? It's not going to be covered since Force Majeure but maybe they'll go under so the shadow fleet is fucked.
>>515777572Funny how even lefties and ragheads agree Russia must go. It's a world alliance eh?
>>515777958probably too late >>515769843neeting at home was too comfy to escape earlier...
>>515778141Technically correct, because it wouldn't be on the bus.
>>515778141like this abdul? report to Glavset HQ right now for sodomization. You are a failure of a propaganda biobot and only good for cubing in ukraine
>>515778347Won’t be grassroots by a long shot. And definitely not what the dems picture it. They picture a wholesome breakup like when the Soviet Union fell. The reality will be a racially-religiously-motivated slaughterhouse fueled by every malcontent under the sun, with all major powers and neighbors egging it on to get a piece of the corpse and resources. Basically Yugoslavia but far far far worse.
>>515778141theres plenty of russian churkas who would stab her thorussia has higher murder rate
>>515778839https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc0r7iND7BU
the gerald ford is in oslo.. man look at this, last time people took their day off to get in their boats, but now it's followed by a rainbow ehhis oscarsborg to the left, , it sails over where blücher liesmy TITS ASS!!! I couldn't go this time either...
>>515773232are they ok?
>>515778904You're telling me you think NYC is safer than Moscow? Have you seen NYC trains?
>>515778531What’s this? Are they preparing to mobilize everyone?God is gracious, you’ll be fine, find guns, canned food, hard tack and get water purifier packets plus solar and hand cranked batteries and inconspicuously build an ork car. Start making your way west asap
>>515778839Sometimes people claim that it can't happen because Russia is too monolithic. That's not true. People in Russia don't necessarily have as much connection to the language or ethnicity as we're used to see in Europe but they still have very strong regional or city affinity as opposed to "outsiders". Russians would be very xenophobic of other Russians who arrive in their cities, especially those who don't live with an "official registration" (residency status). I remember back in 2000s it was a big thing in Moscow, that in order to get services like free kindergarten and school you have to show that you as a parent have Moscow residency. More affluent newcomers from the provinces would arrive and pay bribes to get it, causing a lot of anger from "native" Muscovites. We're about to see the same thing happen in every city, every province and region. Especially as famine hits and they start fleeing countryside. We'll see another famine in Russia within our lifetime. The only reason it didn't happen in 1991 was the humanitarian aid from the US (lmao).
>>515778312One of our best man at the corporation is a cuban though. And from Trump's gang Rubio has been the one reminding you can only talk with russians with a shotgun pointed at them, so there is that at least.
>>515779108lat time it was nuts guys, they had to send out poele in dingies + the police + the mil here>OY stay in your boat lanelook at this beuty man holy shit is so big
>>515776963I don't support banning churches but all I will say is that the UGCC was created by Poland who brought the existing Orthodox Church under the Roman Catholic church, this move was political, not religious and not done to the benefit of the Ruthenians they were ruling over. It's actually not a Catholic Church. You can prove me wrong about this at any time. t. knower
>>515778994lol I have that in my Steam library from ages ago. The story is absolute horseshit cringe, but I liked the gameplay - a Jagged Alliance ripoff.
>>515779562Ukrainian motives were also political. You are arguing in bad faith and you are also completely fucking retarded.
>>515779562Also not as justification but Ukraine has banned both the Russian Orthodox Church and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, the 2 largest churches by far in the country. So Zelesnky is basically repeating what the Poles did long ago in attempting to alter the religion and religious demographics of Ukraine for political reasons.
REINBOW RECLAIMED!!!!
>>515779321Yup agree with all of it Russians are also a mishmash of pure degeneracy dipped in hatred. Putin was able to channel it to external threats (Chechnya being one of the them before joining the big family of extremely united people who would never slaughter each other).Now Kadyrov is dying, his son is a pasty chubby faggot who will be beheaded on the founding day of the Chechnyan caliphate…..Also China has been eyeing outer Manchuria and has killed russians for it… during the Cold War… while they were both communist…………..
>>515779793>Russian Orthodox Church and the Ukrainian Orthodox ChurchWhich are both arms of Russia. Russian Orthodox Church and Ukrainian Orthodox Church are both ran by literal KGB agent, you t. knower.
>>515779757Yes you are right but not like you think. Back then Ukraine did not exist henceforth it was known as the Ruthenian orthodox church because there were no Ukrainians then. also see >>515779793t. knower
>>515779233>God is gracious, you’ll be fine, find guns, canned food, hard tack and get water purifier packets plus solar and hand cranked batteries and inconspicuously build an ork car. Start making your way west asapthanks for your support anon lol>What’s this? Are they preparing to mobilize everyone?i need to find source of that, but from what i understand they now ban you from leaving the country until you complete mandatory conscription and they give you conscription order on the border but i might be wrong
>>515779321>The only reason it didn't happen in 1991 was the humanitarian aid from the US (lmao).Honestly, USA will probably do that again. Hells, even EU will probably chip in. Fucking worst idea, but for some reason seeing starving people triggers that kind of reaction in westerners.
>>515780011You just keep moving the goalpost again.
>>515777730>As long as agent orange is around there is also the chance americans might stall this process for a while by giving money and aid to vatniksImagine believing what the TV tells you this much.
>>515775020USSR 2.0 would be unironically a good ending; because it would imply several new states with democratic rule. Smaller government is always easier to be controlled by the population. What we might be seeing instead would be massive North Korea scenario, unbelievable (even for modern Russia standards) shithole, with closed borders, sanctioned to hell, eternal vassal and backwater country dependent on Chinese whims.
>>515780097The best way to defeat an enemy is to become their friend. This worked well with Germany and Japan. It did not work with the Middle East or Vietnam, but Russia's culture and values should be close enough to America's where that should not be a problem.
>>515779948So then if Poland creates the UGCC by bringing the existing Orthodox Church under their umbrella and Zelensky bans functionally all other Churches in the country, this somehow not the arm of a foreign influencer. Interesting double standard take. The UGCC has only 4.3 members worldwide.
>>515780176Consult the list. There is no point talking to the lunatic in an asylum.
>>515780176So I'm wrong then?
>>515779891this ship destroys homos, the reinbow is ours again nowfug look at this massive schlonker anons...the reds are up in arms rn with their bullshit last time the sunglass thief, went>oh they just come here to rape people.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaSb1gV3JpA&list=RDSaSb1gV3JpA&start_radio=1why do the rich always steal sun glases at the airport?
>>515780421Except UGCC isn't under control of the Polish government, while both churches Ukraine banned are. You are being dishonest and you keep avoiding the actual arguments by presenting irrelevant ramblings. At least you think that Putin is a schizoid and a liar. You never answered my question about those Russian gay men saved on your computer though.
>>515773232guys we have a bootleg oracle, just realizedhttps://youtube.com/@quartzcrystal1https://youtu.be/MQJlBpPLHUMayy lmaoremember this: I turn npc mode that bans quantum probabilities everytime I see a negative post or ruleset against my own will.do you believe in Azathoth /God glowies
>>515779169good enough for another assault
>>515780537Yes, you are wrong. You are presenting a wrong reason for a church ban as the right reason. You are being dishonest. Say: Putin is a jewish pedophile.
>>515780677UGCC was created by Poland anon. The UGCC is not a Catholic church, it's an Orthodox one that Poles put under a Diocese or something after they started ruling part of western Ukraine. Why would you do this again?
>>515780028Kek>MORE teenagers Zerg rushing on chinese scooters is le new epic strat not even joking make your way to Mongolia or fly to spain or italy while our institutions still consider russians somewhat human. You know english, tell them you’re a war refugee… or whatever (burn your passport)The longer you stay the worse it’ll get
>>515780402>The best way to defeat an enemy is to become their friend. Sure, but that requires dismanting of russian imperial ambitions because as long as that exists, they can only see themselves and other countries from vassal-master-enemy perspective. Friendship is not possible.>but Russia's culture and values should be close enough to America's where that should not be a problem.lol.
>>515780805So Ukraine can ban effectively all Orthodox Churches (except Greek, Georgian, Assyrian, Albanian, etc. people don't adhere to) and enforce a new small minority religion only native to a small part of Western Ukraine? But this makes the Ukrainian and Russian Orthodox Churches a branch of the Russian government. OK then.
>>515780911Doesn't matter that Poland created it 500 years ago. It is not under Poland. You are trying to swerve the discussion away from the original point, because you are not allowed to admit that Russian and Ukrainian orthodox churches are handled by KGB agent and a friend of Putin.>>515781147Nobody is enforcing religion anywhere and yes, Ukraine can ban churches that sow dissent and are working for the enemy that invaded them. If you don't understand this point, you are retarded.
>>515780537You are wrong on everything you're saying. Here are some facts:1) Ukrainian Orthodox Church isn't banned, it's merged into the Orthodox Church sanctioned by the Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, who is the supreme spiritual authority of Mt. Athos and the official Orthodox patriarch of Constantinople.2) The Russian Orthodox Church, as an organization, was banned for subversion against Ukrainian people, Ukrainian state, and actively aiding foreign invaders. If you think that's a violation, read about the Edmunds act of 1882. It treated Mormonism much worse and for far less.3) UGCC never received any sort of nation-wide patronage, and remains isolated to some areas in the Western Ukraine.4) The only other churches are the Autocephalous Church which never aided the Russians and was even persecuted by then. Zero problems with the government. Dozens more churches and congregations exist, including non-Christians. And none of them had any problem with the Ukrainian government as long as they didn't do anything criminal, like drug trafficking or high treason.tl;dr the only church you care about is the one engaging in the White Genocide against White Christian People.
>>515781014>but that requires dismanting of russian imperial ambitionsnot really, it just means we need assurances their imperial ambitions end at the baltics and finland.then we eject finland and the baltics from NATO and nature heals.
>>515781147lol they try this here too man, before the war.... you don't undertand..... try to be a protestant in russia, lol jehovas witnesses is all banned is all kgb church anon you are foolish
I love Ukraine i want them to win so much
>>515781554>assurancesIn russian language that word has same meaning as "lies"
>>515781147long before the war started we were aware here...... you are a fool
>>515781574He knows, he is ommiting it on purpose, because he is here to shill for something he doesn't believe in. However it is fun watching him embarrass his way through the whole thread, since he is not allowed to leave before certain amount of posts.
>>515777730>165 million low IQ street shitters with no resources versus 143 million whites with all the resources they could ever need>the retarded butthurt belter doesn't see the difference
>>515781554>we need assurances their imperial ambitions end at the baltics and finland.
>>515781700take back your church we're still protestants
>>515781554Then Russia just swallows them up and continues complaining
>>515781292As far as Im aware the patriarch of constantinople is also currently in schism (not a full schism, orthodoxy is complicated) with the russian orthodox churchI dont remember if the ukraine war has anything to do with it, but probably didnt help
>>515781747>>165 million low IQ street shitters with no resources versus 143 million whites with all the resources they could ever needAnd the streetshitters are doing better. That's fucking hilarious.
>>515781292Ukraine PASSED A LAW banning the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. On top of evicting monks from ancient monasteries.>Ukraine saysAlso the only reports Russia banned the UGCC come from Ukraine and they claim it happened only in Zaporizhia. So I'm actually going to disregard that entirely. Meanwhile do Ukrainians even have Churches to go to anymore?
lol a clrucking chatbot
>>515782120Still trying to ignore the fact that Patriarch Kiril is a KGB agent and a friend of jewish pedophile Putin? Do you think it is going to work?
>>515781147>enforce a new small minority religion only native to a small part of Western Ukraine?This never happened. You are confusing the Orthodox Church founded as a merger of several churches with overlapping authority into the new unified church by the tomos of Patriarch Bartholomew.UGCC is not involved in it at all because they are subordiante to the Pope of Rome. And yes, if you're wondering, in Orthodox religion the temporal authority has the power to organize churches and bishoprics. It doesn't work like in the West where the two are completely separate. If you want to see precedents, just read about the foundation of the Bulgarian Patriarchy and that the only reason the Byzantines tolerated the autocephaly of the Bulgarians was because Ivan Asen II helped them to kick out the Latins (The Catholic Frankish knights) out of Constantinople, and restore the emperor in Nicaea back to the throen in Constantinople. Granting autocephaly effectively meant that Tsar of Bulgaria was no longer a vassal to the emperor, and Bulgarian Church elected their patriarchy regardless of what the Greek clergy thought. In essence, it meant that Greek clergy in Bulgaria had to subordinate themselves to the authority of the Tsar or leave the kingdom. Was that bad too?
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man you ortodox and chatolics going to your churches.. is so beutiful.. btw if you here at some certain churches old enoug... they have the chatoloc shitpriested denied to destoy it, so it's at the back room
>>515782120>Ukraine PASSED A LAW banning the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.Damn so the Churches i went to in Ukraine were illegal but still going on about with 0 fucks given
>>515782247He isn't confusing anything. He just has to hit the post quota and desperately tries to lie his way out of this one.
>>515782451We used to call the mig a "migger" when I played red alert with the boysgood times
>>515782247It absolutely did. The largest Church that isn't being persecuted by Ukraine is literally the UGCC.They are literally persecuted the actual historic Orthodox church and trying to replace it with this one.>You are confusing the Orthodox Church founded as a merger of several churches with overlapping authorityWhat is this stupid wordslop salad from someone who realized they don't know what they are talking about and had to haphazardly look shit up? All of the land in western Ukraine was never natively Catholic, Christianization occurred under the Byzantine Orthodox religion. That's why the UGCC is not Catholic and is also known as "Ukrainian BYZANTINE Catholic Church". Were the Byzantines Catholic?
>>515782665Haha yes! Many WW2 games, the same!
>>515782120>Meanwhile do Ukrainians even have Churches to go to anymore?If yo actually cared about this you'd find outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PfrfuBel2M
Goodnight boysDeath to rusnigeriaProtecc russanonChrist is Kingblood and soil
so my grandmother died.. go to funeral to my church.... female "priest".. goes on talk about water holkes in africa.... I am boiling I had to carry my own god damn fucking grand mother to this die bullshit.... REEEE is not without reason most of us quit the church over 10 years ago....
>>515782907>the actual historic Orthodox churchThe one being ran by a KGB agent? That is very logical, good for them. (I know you will ignore it again, it is just hilarious watching you squirming like a faggot never adressing the reason for the ban, because it would make you wrong and retarded)
>>515782543Legally yes they are because Ukraine deemed them as a function of a foreign state if you can believe that.The Ukrainian government wants to change the Demographics of Ukraine.
>>515782499They have a room filled with old bones in the back of my catholic church"Eram quod es, eris quod sum"
>>515783096He was a kgb agent, retard
>>515783096>The Ukrainian government wants to change the Demographics of Ukraine.That is probably the most retarded reason you could have come up with, because not only it is totally unrealistic, time and time again proven, that that shit doesn't work, but also absolutely illogical.
>>515782907>The largest Church that isn't being persecuted by Ukraine is literally the UGCC.no, the ONLY church being persecuted is the Russian Orthodox Church. How do I know? I talk to the Orthodox people in Ukraine.>They are literally persecuted the actual historic Orthodox church and trying to replace it with this one.Russian Orthodox Church in its current form was formed in 1943 by Stalin. Before that in 1917 when the Tsar abdicated and the Synod that existed for centuries was abolished, and a new patriarch elected. Compare that with the Ecumenical Patriarchy that existed without disruptions for more than a thousand years, even being loyal to the Turk sultan (so much so that they issued anathema against the Greek revolutionaries lol).
>>515782907>This nigga aint a Rusyn.I was a Rusyn. I am a Rusyn. I will be a Rusyn. Fuck off with your cringe bullshit. Rusyns always were Catholics. There are other rites besides Latin rite, dipshit.
>>515782059>look at me I'm a retardWhy are leftoids like this?
>>515782981>Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church>3 million members worldwideWhy do you try SO HARD to prove everything I say correct?I already said that the UGCC, with only 4.3 million members worldwide was like the largest Church in Ukraine not being persecuted.
Eww a LOT of brown people in /chyg/ today
>>515783457It took you that long to come up with something so bland? You suck.
BLACK GENOCIDE... NOW!!!
>>515783096It's impressive how devorced from any semblance of concrete realty you are Probably due ot sub 70 IQ who cant parse basic logical paths
>>515783456Then why are you lying, you know all of this.>Rusyns always were CatholicsNope. Rusyns are east slavs and this is another Byzantine Rite church because it's origin is the same as the UGCC. It's an orthodox Church.
>>515783472(KGB agent head of church - ignore it again, pussy faggot)
>>515783456You expect third worlders to know anything about a small group like the rusyns?Third worlders are "nationalists" only on a large scale, for their large, multi-ethnic, manufactured nationsSouless nationalism is all they know
>>515784022An orthodox church that prays for the Pope in the Liturgy and is in full communion with Rome.
>>515783807Ukrainian Orthodox Church is followed by 78% of the population, it's no legally banned. How Ukraine goes about enforcing it IDK. I posted the source whatever, it's not something you can deny.
i wonder how many pajeet zigger jannys we end up with this time
>>515773925
>>515782907>All of the land in western Ukraine was never natively Catholic,All of the land in the Western hemisphere was never natively Catholic either. What's your point? >Christianization occurred under the Byzantine Orthodox religionPrince Daniel of Galicia-Volhynia was claimed to be Orthodox but he was crowned by a Pope Innocent IV in the city of Dorohychyn in 1253, because all the Byzantine Orthodox co-religionists to the East sided with the Mongols or were killed by them. Welcome to Orthodox realpolitik. Also check out the Council of Florence in 1439. The Emperor sent the Patriarch to sign a union with the Pope, but he died, so he summoned Metropolitan Isidore from Kiev (of all places), who signed the union. Obviously Muscovites never recognized it because they'd rather have a union with Batuu Khan, who granted them exemptions as long as they were obedient to the Mongols. You know what Mongol rulers did afterwards? Convert to Islam, under Berke Khan. lmaoNow you're telling me that Ukrainians have to worship in a church run by a KGB scammer because a gorillion years ago a religion completely unlike Russian Orthodox Church was spread first in those places, then sometime passed and the Russian Orthodox Church cucked itself to worship circumcised Asiatic cock, while literally the entirety of the rest of the Orthodox world signed a union with the Catholics? You are a funny nigger.
>>515784635>a Pope Innocent IVby his delegate, not the pope personally.
>>515784423>well reality is different from what i read online so obviously i must contort my worldview in accordance with this random text Man American mental healthcare really needs fixing ASAP PS you can find a "source" about anything and everying online it means litteraly nothing
>>515784423Should Ukraine let a KGB organization disguised as a church, sowing dissent and working with the enemy that invaded them be free in their country? Answer the question with yes or no.
>>515784265Well sure which is clearly contradictory and shows it never began as a Catholic one, it was made one by Poland for political purposes. They were Orthodox because they eastern slavs from Kievan Rus. That's why they adhered to Orthodox Traditions and why their Churches, Priests and everything look Orthodox. This is beyond ridiculous at this point.>>515782907>>515779562
>>515784601Hello i will be your pajeet zigger janny for today's session.
>>515784949Also they are Catholic in name only I really should say. There is nothing Catholic at all other than Church jurisdiction or something, meaningless to the belief system.Before someone tries to counter me on that, explain how you can be under the Catholic church and be Orthodox then?
>>515783472All Orthodox Christians in Ukraine are subordinate to the autocephalous church. That's how orthodoxy works. It's also how it worked in the past. You cannot have more than one orthodox church per jurisdiction. That the ROC doesn't want to recognize the realities of ortho-politics it's totally their problem. For the followers of the church, if they want to ID-carrying members of the ROC they are welcome to go and do it in Russia, or they can find another religion, or grow a brain.
>>515784635You cant mention the council of florence to an orthodox dicksucker, they dont think that council is valid (for literally no reason as the vast majority of orthodox who went there agreed with it)
>>515784949>>515785137Should Ukraine let a KGB organization disguised as a church, sowing dissent and working with the enemy that invaded them be free in their country? Answer the question with yes or no.Come on jeet. I know you have to earn it, but it is getting really embarrassing.
>>515785137>how you can be under the Catholic church and be Orthodox then?brown tier question. Orthodoxy means following the Nicene faith and recognize all the councils and their decisions. The reason why Orthodox are not Catholics is because they refuse to recognize the universal (i.e. catholic) authority of the pope of rome. It's semantics. But it really has nothing to do with Ukraine. A nation's survival should not be subordinate by a bunch of old pedophiles peddling semitic fairy tales.
>>515783008a bit late but goodnight
>>515781554Mearshy...
>>515782499What is your drink of choice for this fine night, Norskbro?
>>515783277hehe now .. is just arts and crafts, go to any of of the old ones here they havealso fellow protestand, how did you manage?also kirill is lit kgb you idiots, we were ware to this god damn fucking YEARS before the ukraine shitth eone before kirill was cool
>>515785794just tuborg anon the danish beer, every weekend just tuborg is so noice. sometimes coronoa the mexican corona and san miguel is the best but the danish beer just gets me... I should be drinking this.. ye showed you before north norwegian beer.. taste like shit
>>515785472Is it? Or is it a lie they made up to justify the persecution? The church said it has no ties and 78% of the population are followers. Literally 4/5.Lets check the record, Ukraine also:>Evicted monks from monasteries>Banned the ROC, claiming the same thing>Banned the Russian language under "decommunization laws">Bombed Russian speakers in the east>Largest non persecuted church is the UGCCPretty what's going on
>>515785499>BYZANTINE RITEHistory check: who brought Byzantine Orthodoxy to the eastern Slavs? What year?
>>515786059>Evicted monks from monasteriesWere they Russian Orthodox? Based.>Banned the ROC, claiming the same thingBased.>Banned the Russian language under "decommunization laws"Based.>Bombed Russian speakers in the eastWould be based if it wa true.>Largest non persecuted church is the UGCC>kacaps still seething about Polski Pan>mfw
>>515786059>The church saidEven though the head of the church is literal KGB agent who is friends with Putin? You already called Putin a liar in this thread. What makes you believe a member of his criminal gang isn't also a liar?
>>515786059Bitching about speaking Russian is like defending speaking Spanish in Texas
>>515786172Swedish bloke Valdemar of Kiev because he wanted some hot med pussy.
>>515786059>Evicted monks from monasteries >Banned the ROC, claiming the same thing >Banned the Russian language under "decommunization laws" >Bombed Russian speakers in the east >Largest non persecuted church is the UGCC All of this happened after Russia invaded them. Curious.
>>515785619back when we used to be cool but how is it that everywhere, not only russia, carlsberb carlsbergis shitis tuborg the danes prolly pee in carlsberg
>>515786496According to Ukraine? yeah sounds like bullshit to me.
>>515786496It's easy bro. Nemá to smysl se s ním hádat.See>>515780520
>>515786592>SwedishIncorrect.>>515786604Ukraine bombed civilians in 2014 and banned Russian in like 2020? Or something. Zelensky did the religious persecution.
>>515786625>According to Ukraine?Patriarch Kiril is a former KGB agent and a good friend of Putin. This isn't according to Ukraine, this is according to real life truth. You are trying to deny that 2+2=4.
>>515786625stupid nigger
>>515786869>Ukraine bombed civilians in 2014After Russia invaded>and banned Russian in like 2020That actually never happened. Language ban got into effect after 2022 which means that for about 12th time in this thread, you are lying>Zelensky did the religious persecutionAfter Russia invadedAt this point I don't even understand why you are still trying, but thanks for bumping, coolie.
There's something fishy going on in Russia. They are planning something.
>>515786879>oh blessed son, now let me make churches next to your military installations>meanwhile your clergyCANNOTfrenly reminder that even though 0% in finnmark is ortodox, is ortodox clay because kgb says soit will never stop, seizeing other people's land is not new.. kirkenes means just thatHERE! is our churck now fuck off
>>515782120https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Orthodox_Church_(Moscow_Patriarchate)>Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow PatriarchateGet wrecked FSB trash.
>>515787165you reckon?
>>515786879Anon that's the head of the Russian Orthodox Church. Also this is silly because both churches are deeply related, share the same root because Ukraine and Russia were actually 1 country, which is why it's so dumb to argue about "Catholicism" in Ukraine.
>>515787165>There's something fishy going on in Russia. They are planning something.Is the ass in the ass?
>>515773232TZD
>>515787103>Russia invadedSo Ukraine didn't launch a campaign against "separatists" (AKA civilians) who wanted to secede after their elected president got>coup'd?I mean this is what Ukraine's government said.
goodngiht heil hitler
>>515787368That's literally a different church you fucking idiot.
>>515786869>Ukraine bombed civilians in 2014they have the right to bomb civilians inside their country. Just like the jeet- and jew-run US federal government has the right to bomb the shit out of you if they want. What are you going to do? Cry to the Chinks about being stripped of your constitutional rights?> banned Russian in like 2020?Not true, I speak Russian and I can go to Ukraine and freely say that I fucked your mother last night in a perfect Russian, both written and spoken.>Zelensky did the religious persecution.Very sad, it should have been done 30 years earlier. Except that he didn't do it. It's like saying killing cartel members is religious persecution if you do that on the Santa Muerte holiday.
>>515787704>"separatists" (AKA civilians)aka monke's soldiers disguised as volunteers RT slop /chug/ging nigger
>>515787730>goodngiht heil hitlerbased. gn
>>515787893>they have the right to bomb civilians inside their countryLel I'm done now.ConSNEEDsion accepted.
>>515787165do you think its a war in ukraine finally?
>>515788076What? We have the right to bomb civilians in our country too. Also detain and deport them. It's called having a nation state. I know it's hard for you to believe, coming from a country with an ethnic identity erased by two centuries of gaslighting.
>>515788019They declared them enemy and like bombed them yo. If you take up arms maybe you're an irregular combatant or they are under a new flag then that's a lot more legitimate. Except it's also not because Yanukovych was illegitimately overthrown and these people lost their democratic representation.Like the US Revolution was fought over lesser offenses than this.
ree I am not upto swedish stuff, so is this the one we shot in halden? or the other onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bMX20ka7kQfuck you kgb kirillwhy can't nobdy go ... ree forget his name bishop in murmansk
>>515788338>was illegitimately overthrownabsconded duty. He agreed to sign a paper where he'd remain an interim president until the next election. The day before signing he fled like a little cunt. Because he's a criminal gopnik jew from Belarus.
>>515788338no wonder your country is turning into shithole even without monke leader or warsbecause of niggers like you
>>515787165>They are planning somethingWhen they are not? But probably it is just the buildup for last push attempt before mud season, and probably a couple of new provocations towards NATO.I'd say we see couple of drones flying into poland/baltics/balkans (I would bet on balkans). Maybe some new shit like russian ship ramming something "by mistake" in baltic sea.
burp poastit it so many times.. you have swedish historical songsis comfy russia was called moscovites thenhttps://youtu.be/LobdgZnF-2I
>>515788592>absconded dutyFalse. Was literally driven from office and fled for his life. Gave addresses that he was still president. Never impeached.I can go into the Maidan shooting false flag that was proven in Ukrainian COURT to have been done by the opposition. Immediately after that the media blamed Yanukovych without evidence and this triggered a riot that overwhelmed police. He saw what happened to pic related 2-3 years prior. Tl;dr: Ukrainians were lied to (again).
>>515787852>The Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC),[d] commonly referred to by the exonym Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate (UOC-MP),[e] is an Eastern Orthodox church in Ukraine.Fuck you FSB trash, you aren't convincing anyone, into the meatgrinder you go and good to see Pooh giving enough hopium to your monke lord so he keeps making the likes of you good.
>>515789026>Was literally driven from office and fled for his lifeSo he abandoned his duty. A true leader would have stayed in his office.
>>515788611couldn't have said it better. Thanks RUbro.Anyway, I'm off to listen to some very loud black metal about killing kikelovers, and drown in some prime quality lager. (picrel)
>>515789126
>>515789026>peee peee poooWe have all the evidence we need to know what a piece of trash vatniks such as you are, we see it every day here, you have ZERO right to talk about human rights, you motherfucker piece of shit.
>>515789126You have a female communist president.
>>515789427>blah blahFuck you, you are doing a shit work, dipshit, let's hope your supervisor finally sends you into the trash like they did with pic related.
>>515789396Fleeing for your life in a coup so you don;t get Gadaffi'd then giving addresses on TV saying you are still the president is not abandoning.
>>515789570>He doesn't know there are different Orthodox Churches in UkraineAngery kek.
>>515789682Yes it is. if he wanted to remain as leader he should have faced his end as one.
>>515789894He was still right. He was right all along.
>>515789554Which one you little shit son of a crack addict whore? Unlike faggots such as you we keep throwing into jails every single politician who tried to play fool to us, we have thrown everything from browns to jews and at least one bit the bullet, you have no balls you cocksuckers. Fuck off you shitmaggot.
>>515789759Into the pit you go with all the failed vatniks, you aren't fooling anyone.
>>515787165I havent seen any concrete numbers yet but its weird that there is suddenly resources for a military exercise in Belarus while their lines in Ukraine are short on manpower.Are they going to attempt another Kiev rush? I doubt it, but wide speculation should be encouraged in war where anything is possible.
>>515789554>That flag>That postjej
>>515789682the English king thought he was still in charge of america too, despite being nowhere in sight
>>515790182They suddenly decided to increase all sort of taxesalso they are planning to add whitelist of sites and services soon, or maybe in a month i wont be able to use vpn or shitpost here :(something like in north korea or turkmenistan
>>515790220Monke is a coward, he wouldn't have lasted 2 months as our president, unlike russians serfs we would have dragged him into the street and torn him apart.
>>515790220So he got coup'd then indeed? Also these aren't the same because the coup was done by Nuland and co., not the Ukrainian people aside from minority extremists in western Ukraine who supposedly hate jews but work for them.>Picrel: leader of Sloboda on the left.
>>515790028Take it easy with the cocaine Pedro. I was talking about Dina Boluarte. Are you going to throw her in jail as well?
>>515773687Nazis tho
>russia
>>515790213And you'll go down with the Jews.
>>515775096>ww2Russniggers were responsible for Napoleon's 100 days happening, thanks to pootin's beta version letting him go unlike the coalition had planned. Crimean War was a land grab because they perceived the Ottomans as weak, etc. It's been going on for a long time.
Fry ziggers
>>515791233bitch
>>515791233>Hug ziggers>Be friends with ziggers>Realize Hohols and ziggers are brothers>Zelensky is a jewish dictator
jewkraine = BBC
broke beggar country
Oh, the coolie dalit arrived.
>>515791642Brothers don't try to conquer their brothers.
TZD
>>515792081I'm pretty sure Victoria Nuland, John Kerry and the host of jews running Ukraine and coup'ing it aren't their brothers.
>>515792081>ameribitch understanding of the warlel
>>515790453>or maybe in a month i wont be able to use vpn or shitpost here :(I'm sure there will be a way to get around it somehow
>>515773232How long until cockholes realize they are pawns for the satanic west?
>>515793419did you manage to fish out all the glass from your ass pidorashka
>pee pee poo poowas that how the ussr fell? having a bunch of monkeys in denial pointing fingers at everybody else till the very last moment?
>>515793787>>515793787>>515793787>>515793787
>>515787368>SIG SG 550 Based raifu.
>>515792344Then the Russians are killing the wrong people. Dumbasses
>>515794706>Ukraine was weaponized and used to instigate a war against RussiaNo, it's not Boris Johnson who personally flew to Ukraine to stop Zelesnky from surrendering. Or the fact that Ukraine has lost strategically and was never meant to win, merely serve as a manpower source to wage a war of attrition against Russia. Or the fact Zelensky had the obligation to surrender long ago to stop the suffering of his people in a war he and his backers created. Nope, not at all.
