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First my thread. And last.
>>515835981>Why is atheist morality such a massive failure?because it's not a "something"a theist molarity represents some kind of "existence" or "substance". For example, if I worship a cat, there is:1. Worship = yes2. Cat = yesAtheist doesn't provide any "yes" answers, it only provides "no" answers.1. Worship = no2. Cat = noSo what exactly fills existence then? Nothing.This is the crisis of nothing.Atheism is nothing.Nihilism is nothing.Atheism is simply the nihil of theism.It's not rocket science.Morality cannot be built on absence, nonexistence, or anti-anything.
Iskanders in Kaliningrad near Poland>The spoon should be held in the right hand, and the Psheks - in fear
>>515837047https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN8b1-26E7c
Name the band
>>515837419are those guys okay?
>>515837419Princess Gonorrhea
there are polish and lithuanian monsters at the storeit's like the fucking 1600s all over again
Z>>515836802>Anything can exist if put enough effort and resources into it, but what the point of a system that falls apart the second the state stops being a monolithic entity?What's the point of a system if there isn't a state?>>515837132Imo there's a vast field of concepts between atheist morality and nihilism. In a way the USA was atheist (rationalist or liberal really), yet it wasn't nihilist. Neither was the soviet union. You personally may not like atheist morality, but it doesn't mean it can't exist
>>515837507>In a way the USA was atheistit never was
>>515837419anglo and his tools
>>515837487Two aspirins and a chicken soup and they’re good to go.
>>515837419Dead Dynasty
Hohols saying pipeatatck happened, pro hohol russians and turbo russian doomers are already saying it completely failed, massive casualties. Hohols now all copying it and writing hundreds of casualties.Its kursk all over again, we totally killed them all, fake patriots all screaming murder, blaming MOD and a disaster and then when its all debunked again they act as if they never said it.
>>515837567compared to absolutism of europe around the time yes it wasreligious freedom = atheist really
kill all hohols
>>515837507>You personally may not like atheist morality, but it doesn't mean it can't existmorality cannot be extracted from an "a-something" concept, because as I already explained, morality represents "something", the keywords here are "some" and "thing"Atheism doesn't fall under the keywords "some" and "thing" because it is the definition of "rejection of a thing"
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>>515835201But chudda, there are gozillions of different multiversums all popping up in the boiling vacuum inside the wormhole riding on top of a blackhole, all ust opped up of of the ass of nothing in the nowhere! Morgan Freeman told me so! see how it's all sound so smart and scientific and none of that shit can be reproduced or proven by an experiment, nor it can't even be observed, but it all totally more real than G-d!The whole point of zhido-talmudic "atheism" is to establish the idea that mind is secondary to matter, disallowing any dissent to even assume it's the opposite. From that then takes roots the denial of any agency and the free will, the discarding of any subjective experience, until it's "proven" with some material shit and so on.Like I sleep every night and create worlds in my mind, but nooooooo I must "prove" it to pigs and dogs for them to desecrate it and jump at me next.
>>515837654>religious freedom = atheist reallyatheism rejects religions
This can only end with unconditional surrender and VVP fucking the gremlin's ass on live TV,
peak of ukrainian culture
>>515837419The Gravehoppers
>>515837648over the years I dropped all "patriotic" channels because they exist by manufacturing hype, they're parasites.
>>515836645And? You can't derive "ought" from "is". >>515836716They are not purely utilitarian. They have utility, but they also have transcendental aspect to them. Otherwise, utilitarianism boils down to "more pleasure, less discomfort, numbers go up" and ultimately, total dehumanisation and decay. >>515836788Neat. Now explain why I personally should care about preservation of society so much that I will sacrifice my time, money and health to make an investment I'll never reap the fruits from? You can't do that without appeals to transcendental values (bloodline, kin, culture, etc). None of those can be justified purely on the ground of personal utility maxxing.
T*lmud denounced TNDTKDTHD TMDTTDTRUTSHTSKTSMTSB
>>515837737Where chicken kyivyiv?
>>515837683but rejection is anti, not aa means lack or without >>515837726see above, atheist = without God, or without theism
why do hohols love getting piped so much though?
>>515837648Hohols spam vids any time a russian so much as stubs his toe on camera. If they aren't posting any proof, they are lying.
>>515837825MILK SIGHTING
>>515837737A great picture of things that aren't hrukrainian
>>515837683Morality doesn't stem theism. That's the flaw in your dumbass argument.
>>515837797>Neat. Now explain why I personally should care about preservation of society so much that I will sacrifice my time, money and health to make an investment I'll never reap the fruits from?You can't do that without appeals to transcendental values (bloodline, kin, culture, etc). None of those can be justified purely on the ground of personal utility maxxing.Society doesn't care about what you think or want. In a purely ulltilitarian society you'll be forced to work and put on drugs to feel joy and sterilized if you're genetically ill, because bad for society. Read brave new world (but not as a blueprint obviously)
So where are the money?
>>515838049>You can't do that without appeals to transcendental values (bloodline, kin, culture, etc). None of those can be justified purely on the ground of personal utility maxxing.sure you canbloodline and kin are neccessary values for utilitarian morality because they retain a human connection which is necessary to avoid creating a brave new worldbam
Orange retard is having a meltdown over Russia not bending the knee againReminder he's offered nothing to Russia to help get Peace closer outside of sanction relief that the EU will easily violate
>>515837861if you still don't get it, I will explain in binary termssubstance is +absence of substance or rejection of substance is -morality can only be built as a "system of values" around a substance(so by definition morality requires a "+" foundation)in order for atheism to have a moral system, it needs to replace the "+" of theism, with another flavoured "+" of something elsebut atheism does not represent a "+" (a substance), it represents a "-" the negation of a substancehenceforth, the idea of "atheism morality" is not a logical construct at all, because its existence is logically impossibleWHEN WESTERNERS TALK ABOUT ATHEISYT MORALITY, WHAT THEY ACTUALLY MEAN IS "a diluted Christian morality, but with less rules"But it's still basically a broken version of Christian morality.If the Islamic world would become atheistic in the future, their "atheist morality" would be VERY different from our "atheist morality"
>>515837737Why can't hohols stop being cringe for a second
>>515837419Norwood 5
>Trump called on NATO countries to impose tariffs of 50-100% against China, claiming that this will play a major role in ending the Ukrainian conflicthe's still on this
>>515837737
>>515838189>absence of substance or rejection of substance is -But 0 isn't the same as negative
The orange retard is having a meltdown over Russia not bending the knee againReminder he's offered nothing to Russia to help get Peace closer outside of sanction relief that the EU will easily violate
>>515837419He managed to become a bigger whore than his mom who was probably the biggest whore of the 20th century, quite an achievement.
>>515837861>see above, atheist = without God, or without theismit's without religion, you cannot have a Christianity without a god, or an Islam without a god. The whole logical system of rules and morals that traditions and worldviews that evolve from religion is based on the foundation of "there is someone above me"
>>515838280>But 0 isn't the same as negativein a binary system it is the same as negative1 vs 0 + vs -a numerial binary sysem only has 2 digits
>>515838289>china has a strong control and even grip over russiagod i wish that was me
>>515838127>So where are the money?Did you check the reserves? Maybe it's in the reserves!
>>515838226He has no clue how these countries actually work. All these sanctions will do is push China to go full bore in SEA and Africa and Russia to go all-out in Ukraine.
>>515831270>sure a jew who emigrated to zhidrael to die there will go so hard on talmud the nazionists are gonna be totally mogged and destroyed, rightI think you (You)d the wrong post?
>>515838289Trump's warSimple as
>>515837918>MILKBtw there is a question.2D vampires have there milk or blood?
>>515838189I wouldn't say thay atheism is the removal of substance, it's more of a keeping the same substance but changing the reasoning for why I should behave in the same way as before. That's exactly why >a diluted Christian morality, but with less rulesIs a correct statement. Christian morality still is the cornerstone of western values, even if its getting somewhat warped.
>>515838359>"there is someone above me"No, it's based on punishment and reward. In theism there is someone in the sky who will punish or reward you based on your adherence to social constructs. That's why morality always follows legal statutes. Similarly, morality in atheism is rooted in law.
>>515836776gains
>>515838469you don't even have to know about how the countries work to predict the effects of trying to cut them off from the world we controleverything we do at this point to try to keep the empire going will only make it end faster, and with more terrible results for america
>>515838658>Jailing (((soros)))Too based for orange nigger
>>515836776More gains.
>>515838658Sure he will. Right after Hilary and Bill and Obama. Any minute now.
>>515838408>in a binary system it is the same as negativeno it's not. In a binary system, 0 is still 0 and negative is positive with a different sign, which is reserved by lest/most significant bit>>515838359You can have Christianity without religionIt's what the first Christians did, and why different branches of Christianity emerged and drifted apart to become their own churches
>>515837891It happened psychologically
>>515838694so it's not atheism them. It's mental illness.The logic for what religion is, how it works, and why it functions the way it does - is pretty linear.It's A, because B, B because C, and C because D, and D because ....... Z.If you extrapolate this logic to numbers, it's 1, 2, 3, 4.... 10.And if you extrapolate this logic to words, it's: "do not kill because...... God"What you are describing "atheism morality" as, is the destruction of linear logic in moral systems.>I recognise the existence 1, 3, 6, 8, 10 but I do not recognise the existence of 2, 4, 5, 7, 9In layman terms, we can diagnose this as>I recognise the existence of numbers, but refuse to recognise that numbers are sequential, and I also reject math, substraction, division, multiplication
>>515838702>No, it's based on punishment and reward.you cannot be punished if there is no one to punish you (no one above you), retard
>>515838289Impotent seethingEuro-peons will not destroy their economies for the Orange CuckThe only reason they SANCTIOOOOONED in the first place is that they were promised a quick 2 week regima change peremoga and getting the same Russian resources for much cheaper, the only reason they haven't backtracked is that it would destroy their political careers
>>515838945>You can have Christianity without religion>It's what the first Christians did, and why different branches of Christianity emerged and drifted apart to become their own churchesamazing, so a church is not a religious insitution in your brainrotted mind now?
>>515838821Trust the plan. WWG1WGA
>>515839156>you cannot be punished if there is no one to punish you (no one above you), retardif you do something retarded, like jumping into a volcano, and then you get burned and die from lava then who is punishing you?you are still getting punished even if there is no entity performing the punishment
I should have been born in Russia/Ukraine. Here I had a 34 on my ACT and 255 on my USMLE but I had my life ruined because I spoke out and then also BY THE GOVERNMENT itself because I shitposted on the internet. So I am a mediocre professional.But in Russia/Ukraine, I'd probably be an oligarch now, sampling pink slavic pussy and causing chaos around the globe, interfering in elections and pitting people against eachother. And fighting for an anti white cause while being a white nationalist.I hate Jesus and I hate the white race.
>>515839245>Queen of Spades tattooLOL
>>515839305She hit the wall hard and fast.
>>515838945>In a binary system, 0 is still 0 and negative is positive with a different sign, which is reserved by lest/most significant bitI don't think you understand what a binary system is.A binary sustem can only have 2 values, if you start assigning negatives and positive to a binary system, it stops being a binary system and becomes a quaternary system
>>515837419Harry and the Blownpigs
>>515839270>if you do something retarded, like jumping into a volcano, and then you get burned and die from lava then who is punishing you?god, laws of nature, physics, universe (all of whom are above you)
>>515839477>Dis nigga don't know about mantissa
>>515839220The fact that essentially different churches evolved from the same faith (in Christ) means that there's not one sole religion that is inevitable from Christian faith, ergo you can have Christianity without religion. Or another example, think of the one next to Christ on the cross. He entered heaven, but he never practiced or was part of a Christian religion
>>515839156>you cannot be punished if there is no one to punish you (no one above you), retardWhat are jail, fines, execution and social exclusions?
>>515839580
>>515839476Didn't she die? She was so unhealthy, she just died in 39 yo,
>>515839638>the fact that some people make mistakes while doing math means 4-2 doesn't equal 2
I felt so bad about all the deaths. But I am NOT Russian and I am NOT Ukrainian, why can't I take a side. I want to unite the Slavic tribes and then cause further chaos around the globe. We can liberate the European countries from all the rapefugees that have occupied them. We can redeem the white race. Alternatively we can enslave the white race, our historic enemy.Anyway, I don't cause any harm, just show the level of censorship. If anything, my posts are a force for peace.
>>515839638>The fact that essentially different churches evolved from the same faith (in Christ) means that there's not one sole religion that is inevitable from Christian faith, ergo you can have Christianity without religion.what the fuck are you talking about?All of them are religions. You can call them sects of Christianity, deviations of Chritianity, branches of Christianity. But they are still religions. Whether part of single religion or multiple religions is up to debate.I think you've drifted very far away from realm of logic in this discussion, and are shadow-boxing with word play
>>515837797>You can't do that without appeals to transcendental values (bloodline, kin, culture, etc). None of those can be justified purely on the ground of personal utility maxxing.FUCKIGN BASEDI keep saying that it best boils down to instincts and intuition and that liberals especially mutts are separated no only from transcendental values but also from their own survival instinct, group preference and self preservation. You can use logic and rationality to rationalize suicide and self genocide, yet your instinct will never rationalize suicide.
>>515839476No she is so pale like a vampire, pale = based
>>515839117It's more simple than that. With the integration of church into state, the political entity of a nation takes the position of the god, while government turns into prophets and citizens into believers. Most of the christian dogmas fit this blueprint pretty well and the controversial ones get tuned down to maximize the amount of believers.
>>515839726>What are jail, fines, execution and social exclusions?systems and institutions created to enforce moral values that derive from a specific religion
>>515838189You don't need to use sophistry to argue about atheist morality, just show the US and USSR and ask them why China is not the same way.
>>515839783Her liver was fucked. Unclear if it was genetic, drugs or hep c.
>>515839786then what religion was the outlaw who died next to Christ?He wasn't baptised mind you
>>515839892>It's more simple than that. With the integration of church into state, the political entity of a nation takes the position of the god, while government turns into prophets and citizens into believers. Most of the christian dogmas fit this blueprint pretty well and the controversial ones get tuned down to maximize the amount of believers.yes and that's perfectly fine too, but you can't deny the existence of god in that system
>>515838289>WAH, the EU and NATO have to commit economic seppuku so I acn get a nobel peace prizeI can't belive mutts voted for this retard, i'm waiting for his tantrum over the Bolsonaro conviction.
>>515839897>systems and institutions created to enforce moral values that derive from a specific religionNo, they aren't. Tell us about the speed limit commandment.
White negroids are the master race
>>515837797>You can't do that without appeals to transcendental values (bloodline, kin, culture, etc). None of those can be justified purely on the ground of personal utility maxxing.How about this: humans have evolved to experience the most natural fulfillment and joy from being reproductively successful. Assuming you value natural sensations over artificially induced ones, reproducing and making sure your children enjoy the benefits of your labor is the most rational choice.
>First thing a azovite see after eating a Russian drone
>>515839951Presumably Judaism, which is waiting for Christ the Messiah.Fun fact: Judaism has been fulfilled by Christ, it is impossible to be a follower of it, those who pretend to be followers of Judaism are actually Talmudists, i.e. the synagogue of satan.
>>515839825The first Christians had faith, yet still no organisation (aka religion). Christian religion itself stems basically from the nicean creed, and people like Arians were not regarded as part of the same religion although they also believed in Christfaith =\= religion
>>515840187>a azovite seeESL
>>515840187
"Donald Trump is a rapist": London is ready for the US President's visit to the UK.
>>515840191So do Jews who are not baptised go to heaven?carefully answer
>>515840050>No, they aren't. Tell us about the speed limit commandment.yes they are, speed limit preserves lives, and religions consider lives must be preserved
>>515840062We call them "Nego aço" here, not really sure why>>515840279Did the flag give me away?
>>515840219>faith =\= religionthis is sophistry againfaith is direction, religion is substancethey are not mutually exclusive, and neither can they exist without each other.
>>515840308Modern day Talmudists do not go to heavenOld Testament faithful before Christ had fulfilled the Old Testament did go to heavenThat's my understanding, at least, I haven't ever cared to find out what happened to them
>>515840315>speed limit preserves livesThey don't. They keep insurance rates down.
>>515839927I can believe in drugs/alcohol, but she was Jewish, and Jews often have genetic deceases; It's a side effect of intra-cult marriages: genetic pool is small, degeneracy is common. Look at cousin marriages among Muslims (first of all, Pakis).
>be monke>plunder pucccia for 3 decades with your jew kgb pals>start a useless war that gets your male youth killed>pidorashkas on the internet still praise you because they think ur based and trad
Buck broken by hyhyls
>>515836776How's the war going? Any fun war stuff happening today?
>>515840415it's not, it's two distinct concepts. Faith is an inner condition, religion an apparatus maintained by society.Atheism drops the second, while not necessarily dropping faith. Which is why God isn't theism, and which is why every society that's not theocratic mustn't necessarily be atheist
>>515840761Just more dead pidors, same as always
>>515839959>you can't deny the existence of god in that systemI wasn't denying it, that's why I said that christianity still is a core of western values. But now it's not a guy in the sky, but the holiest nation.
>>515837737Pvre aryan master race art!
>>515840299Ew, there is no creativity.."Volodin and Gref aren't gay men" in Moscow was really funnier and just better. I mean what's the charges, officer? You disagree and think they are gay men, don't you? Well, well, well...
died for a bald manlet award
>>515840761Just your usual advances, but we did see a new Pipe operation.
comfy
>>515840559I think it was some genetic condition or hepatitis. Even the most hardcore lushes don't blow their liver out and need a replacement before they're 40.
>>515837711i wanna eat that ass
>>515840879>Poor girl's grandpa and dad have both been mogilized by the Kike of KievGRIM
Based putin sending the new generation to die for banan too
>>515840839Always nice to have spare parts, I guess.
>>515840889charge is unlawful advertisement which should be punishable by public lashing imo
burn pidors alive
Opinions?
>>515841158Ukraine is a bastion of democracy, when was their last election again?
>>515840889And picrel is my favorite. The picture was made in a pro-Putin rally in Novosibirsk in October 2007.> Putin is better than HitlerIt was a real successful provocation.And those ads about Trump are just offenses. Boring and dumb.
>>515840559>deceasesdiseases.
>>515840976I've long wanted to travel the pipes, like a hobo riding the rails. Mom won't let me out after dark anymore though. Fucking cunt.
ACK!
pidor 41%
>>515841291>Ukraine is a bastion of democracy, when was their last election again?When US state department jews say it is
Total pidor extinction
>>515841545all these top down drone vids always gave me hotline miami/darkwood vibes
>>515841142Humans are gud fuel. We can burn jeets when we run out of oil.
>>515838289I'm so tired of Orange Nigger and his administration
>>515841310>> Putin is better than HitlerObviously, Putin took a country that was near its breaking point due to anglokike treachery and turned it into the world's sole hyperpower, capable of defeating NATO with a peacetime militaryIn fact he's among the greatest leaders in human history
Ok since nobody wants to discuss morality with me anymore I'll go do something else. One last thing, the golden rule solved morality during antiquity already
>>515841741You failed to answer me>>515840433It seems like you had a gotcha in mind but your poor understanding of Christianity failed you
>>515838289Damn that Zelenskyyy nigger.
Meanwhile in Russia...
>>515841158Everyone keeps harping on about the 22nd, but complete forget that the OCSE and multiple observers at the contact line could easily note that the shelling started on the 17th. It was so outrageous too, as the 22nd report scrubbed the origin of shelling, despite there being like anywhere between 3-4 observers watching night vision camera feeds from the contact line during the night, where it was evident that the Ukrainian side was firing targeting flares throught the night, while the rough distribution of fire was 90% incoming shells into DPR/LPR side and almost neglible amount of outgoing fire from the DPR/LPR side. There was also the issue of logistis, DPR/LPR adhered to the DMZ resolutions in the Minsk treaty and most of the heavy ordnance was outside the 30km buffer zone, while most of Ukrainian ordnance was already on site for a good ass while...
just a reminder, russia will get 90's again and this time 10x fold for the next 50 years+enjoy your youth being fucked by chinks 0.05 rub a piece :Dare we still cocky?
>>515841158First of all it was Columbia
>>515841847Where? This? >>515840433see no question
>>515842064brazilian niggers somehow look more evil and conniving than regular niggers
>>515842138You asked me a question, presumably with the intention of following up on my answer, but you never did
Jadnigga wonVatpidors lostI hope hohols conduct a holocaust
>>515842202so you want a reply?ok it would be a tedious faith vs works argument, but in the end the proof is there and for me it's clear - faith is what led the jew to heaven, not his partaking in a Christian religion that a) didn't yet exist (Christ hasn't risen yet) and b) he could never follow because he was crucified along with Christ obviously.Which to me just means faith =\= religion really
How fucked is Xi and Putin from this Nepalese revolution?
>>515837419The Rolling hohols
How old is Jadnigger?I've heard he's underage, is this true?
>>515841158Well, the Ukrainian regime has been unconstitutional since February 2022. Furthermore, the Ukrainian govenment literally broke their own declaration of independence every country recognized. It states Ukraine is a neutral non-aligned country, and they literally put an item about their membership in NATO into their constitution. They cancelled foundations of their independence themselves.Furthermore. I don't remember people in Panama asking the US government about tnvasion. Panama people aren't the same with the US citizens, they don't have the same language, history and culture. The Russian people of Donbass requested help from the Russian Federation. It's the right of nations to self-determination in accordance with the UN Charter. Donbass people held two referendums: to declare independence (after the coup-d'etat) in May 2014 and to join their Motherland in September 2022, to people they have had the same language, culture and history (and often genetic/family relations). How many referendums did Panama hold to invite the US military?
>>515842537China has been minutes from collapse for decades now.
>>515842064>>515842176Why so racist?
>>515842537India and China will just mutually agree to bulldoze Nepal hopefullydiscord nations shouldn't exist
>>515842537Nepalese have been able to do what Americans could not do and what the British cannot even think of. So much for the myth of Western superiority.
>>515842852Funny how this color revolution ut've been in the works for years, only for Trump to completely fumble India and send it straight into the arms of China, making the revolution pointless.
>>515842852>India and China will just mutually agree to bulldoze Nepal hopefullythe most dystopian take of the weekpeople like you should get curbstomped by fat gorilla niggers and denied medical help afterwards
>>515842526The good thief had Christ himself to absolve his sins, contemporary Christians have the successors of Christ's ministry, connected by an unbroken chain of ordinations
>>515841737Well, tell it to Russian law enforcement officers. They wouldn't be amused by such a poster.
>>515843086>Churkahohol seethes that great powers get to buck break uppity little shits that decide to commit national suicide for far away anglokikes
>>515843086It's funny how the hohol is brown-haired even in the battle pics.
Bomb hohols!Kill jews!
>>515842126
>>515842388Checked! and Z
>>515843313>>Churkahohol seethes that great powers get to buck break uppity little shits that decide to commit national suicide for far away anglokikes>>515843327>>It's funny how the hohol is brown-haired even in the battle pics.
MY PC IS FIXED. I LOVE MY TECHNOMANCER BRO WHO FIXES PCS [nohomo].I can't hear it at all! Silent as hoholinas in america
>>515842537it's over for ruslimchinkshits because the cia did an EPIC riot nipple country
>>515839185Sadly we will. Already did with the tariff deal
>"Most powerful man in the world">Scared shitless of jews
>>515843063>pointlessbro, there's like a thousand mutts who are going to get a promotion now because of the riot
>>515842064coalburners always have that smug face like "eheh yeah I fuck a nigger, what are you going to do?"
>>515843469>Silent as hoholinas in americaI could have saved her...
>>515843168>contemporary Christians have the successors of Christ's ministry, Yeah I don't believe that btw. But even according to canon best they can have is grace, which can help them bring people closer to Christ, but not absolve their sins or the first humanborn sin or decide who gets to go to heaven. That's still upon Christ only
>>515843313total churka death
>Passport of Kim Jong-un, who posed as a Brazilian to visit Disneyland in JapanI raughed.
>>515839852Correct. It's very easy to rationalize itself into complete insanity once you lose the touch with your transcendental nature. >>515839892You don't have to be dualistic about it. Russian tradition is based on Orthodox Synodal Imperium, which combines elements of centralisation (even cesaropapism - emperors called the Ecumenical Councils) and decentralization (synodality). >>515838049You can try, but these levels of coercion will be unsustainable - they will permanently generate a ton of friction and resentment, and if you try to take them away by putting everyone on drugs, you end up with a population so messed up and demoralized that it can't defend itself or survive crises/technological breakdowns. Also, they are completely dependent on the whims of technocrats in charge and have 0 autonomy. >>515840068Procreation isn't hardcoded into us, otherwise childfree would not exist. Also, do you have kids? I do, and it's s kinda hard work. And sure, I'm happy to see my kid, but if we go purely by "how much happiness I derive from it" vs "how much efforts it takes", then smoking pot, having promiscuous sex and playing vidya is a much better proposition lmao.
>>515843086What do we have here? A Ukrainian patriot hiding from mobilization in Russia? Classic
>>515841737>due to anglokike treacheryanglo mind control powers made gorbachev destroy the USSR and made the former leadership of the USSR loot its corpse for personal enrichment?Truly Europe is the most powerful continent, between Anglos who control everything in Russia, and Putin who controls everything in the rest of the world, nothing is beyond our reach
>>515842711They also constantly forget that the right of self-determination doesn't include creating fortresses of military contingents and disguise them as "national defense", especially when they're deliberately targeted against a specific nation or populace. Regardless of it's size. If anything, most of Ukraine's actions have been very largely self-incriminating. There's just not a lot of organizations talking about it at large, because it fucks with the narrative. "Brutal war of aggression" is something we see here in the papers 24/7, albeit there being very clear and solid basis for right to self-defence of territories at risk of indiscriminate military force in Article 51...
>>515843729She chased that american dream but it was right behind her the whole time.
>>515843762I was in Bulgaria a few decades ago and it was fine
>>515843794>You can try,That's all I'm arguing for really. It can be tried in principle, which doesn't mean it's best or superior. Just that it's possible. Contrary to your (I assume) statement that it's impossible in principle
>>515844009
Now imagine how better this would be with 100% tariffs on China.
>>515843762Lmao, they traced over a character of Baki.
>>5158436500% vs 15% tariffs is a nothingburger compared to regressing to pre-industrial economy due to an 80% deficient in energy.You also cucked him on the $1.4T gibt
>>515844161>It can be tried in principle70 years of trying, millions dead, dozens of millions impoverished, birthrates completely obliterated, country collapsed.>let's try again
>>515838174You just smuggled another teleology - "avoiding creating a brave new world". Why should we avoid creating it? Also, utilitarian tradition directly contradicts you - it is universalist. Bentham and his ilk went as far as as to claim that you didn't care about your mother any more than a random woman you never knew - because they are all equally human. So doing an action that hurts your kin but benefits others a lot more is absolutely justified in utilitarian calculus. See: EU migration policies, foreign aid, etc. They are all based on utilitarianism
>>515841291Democratic unity is necessary for military survival, who needs fancy stuff such industrial base anyway?Whatever they need the arsenal of democracy will provide.
>>515843794>Procreation isn't hardcoded into us, otherwise childfree would not exist>Having 2 arms is not hardcoded into us, otherwise children with fewer than 2 arms would not existIs this the power of generational first cousin marriages?
>515843468>troon thinks this is 2ch Lold YWNBAW cunt
>>515844407>birthrates completely obliterated,don't let your inner retard shine through
>>515843958>Snarky anglokikeIf you want to have an educated conversation on the topic, listen to Jeffrey Sachs, who did the capitalist transition for both Poland and subsequently Russia.
>>515844161Well, you can try anything you can imagine. Doesn't mean it's a good idea. And bad ideas tend to produce bad outcomes. Entire field of philosophy and metaphysics and gnoseology and metaethics were created to distinguish good ideas from bad.
>>515843789lmao
>>515843458
>>515844550Yes, you should deal with your inner gommie retard and learn what population momentum and increase in life expectancy is.
>>515843468Dugin is based
>>515844478How prevalent is childlessness versus congenital deformity?
>>515837419>when wearing a swastika gets real
>>515844687>Entire field of philosophy and metaphysics and gnoseology and metaethicsye and all those are despised by our religious clergy which I find weird if you argue for a religious structure>>515844800all these happened outside the SU in developed countries just as much. Guess what didn't? that little 20 MILLION dip in the 90s - that's exclusive to CHГ
>>515844626I am well aware that the US ultimately denied post-gommunist Russia the gibs that were sent to Pooland et al but that's only one factor in a long downwards spiral that started in 1917. The burgers might have helped push the boat out but they certainly did not build it. You did that all by yourselves.
>>515844295We didn't cuck him. He got less what he wanted but he still got things and we got nothing Literally the most demoralizing thing that ever happened. I literally didn't care about Dugin whining about how a secret spciety of ancient kings run Europe, I still liked living here and I wanted things to be stable, now I just don't know what to think
>>515844869It depends on the levels of memetic and biological pollution. Wectern societies (which Russia is unfortunately one of, though there are movements to the contrary) suffer from the greatest level of memetic pollution in human history, deforming people's psyches and preventing them from developing properly. It is the memetic equivalent of living in a nuclear wasteland, in which case congenital deformities would also be very widespread.
>>515844470Well this is kinda true, because by "democratic unity" they mean "total submission to globohomo and the kike in charge", and without it, they won't be able to put enough meat in trenches
>>515838326are you alfayedes sonwould explain a lot
>>515845057>Yes we did not give you one of the many life vests we had lying around while you were drowning but it was your own fault for trusting us when we said we wanted to be friends with youThrow anglokikes into active volcanos
>>515845040Despised? What? Orthodox church has a 2 thousand years tradition of philosophy and metaphysics, it's insanely rich, what are you talking about? Have you read any of Orthodox philosophers/theologians?
>>515844009and what a dream it was...
communistic
>>515844161>>515844407>>515844550Are you guys, like, having a discussion about le capitalism and le gommunism?Without me?
I'm sick of nothingburgers.
>>515845292>it was your own fault for trusting usIt’s called common sense.
>>515840062>White negroids are the master raceThis but unironically
>>515845494Is the gif from a porn flick?
>>515845126Again - you assume the right to make normative judgements about what is the "healthy norm" and what is "pollution". Where do you derive the standards and right to judge their application? What you did so far was "naturalistic fallacy"/appeal to normalcy. But you can't justify something by just making an observation that "it" exists in nature or was previously practiced in society. Cannibalism was also previously practiced and widespread in nature, so by same logic, anti-cannibalist propaganda is memetic pollution.
>>515844800>Yes, you should deal with your inner gommie retard and learn what population momentum and increase in life expectancy is.Oooooh! Oooooh! Oooooh! You're on le gapidlism side?And blaming the absolutely catastrophically disastrous birth rates every single fucking le gapidalist cunt-tree has on... le gommunism inheritance/delayed effect?Including those le gapidalist cunt-tree which was never under le gommunism?
>>515845040>country with by far the highest birthrates in europe went to one of the lowest in mere 70 years of living in a communist paradise>b-but 90s, b-but that's world's standard And who is to blame for the 90s nigger, cpsu dindu nuffins, ussr just happen to disolve one morning?
>>515844550> Birthrates obliterated> For some reason the answer is "population numbers"Sure, it's a Stalinist.> Tries messing with data> If it doesn't work, he starts to swear and offense the counterpart> If it's possible, he puts the opponent into prison or kills.Anyway, during reign Nicolas II about 9% of humanity lived in Russian Empire. In 1992 only 2.7% of humanity lived in the Russian Federation. The share of Russia in the world population had decreased by 3;33 times thanks to Soviets. That was result they wanted before 1917 and achieved. Bravo.
>>515845308Orthodox theology works like this:>a russian philosopher takes interest in faith>notices its theological foundations are completely marasmic>proposes interesting new ideas that bring it up to date>actual priests learn about his philosophy>get insanely butthurt, excommunicate him and declare all his writings a heresy>collect church taxes from starving peasants>rinse>repeat
>>515845308Ye coincidentally I have, eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_KronstadtIf my mind doesn't betray me he wrote against visiting theaters, reading philosophers, newspapers, against scientific method, against renaissance thinking and pretty much against anything other than bible + church literature. There's a bible quote somewhere about the wickedness of world wisedom and the sanctity of insanity for Christ's sake, i just cba to google it now
>>515846020United Kingdom really is pioneering the two-tier system for everything.
>>515845292>follow your leaders off boat into the sea>your leaders steal all the lifejackets you made over the last 80 years>it is somehow Britain's fault that the Americans didn't give you more lifejacketsThis is just "western gods" mindset but reversedWhy would you ever trust the Americans? For more than a century all they wanted was to supplant European power and that includes you- you guys even helped them do it by funding marxist revolutionaries against the European empires; why did you think it would be different once you placed yourselves in that same position?
>>515845494I was just on watch, you can take over now.
>>515846136>two-tier systemcaste system*
>>515845720>But you can't justify somethingCorrect, it is in fact impossible to justify anything. Except tautologically or by eternally deferring it.
>>515845720From a purely naturalistic perspective, humans and all other organisms* are self-replicators, self-replicators that fail to replicate are obviously faulty*There are some edge cases where infertile organisms work to aid in the replication of their genes carried by another organism, e.g. worker and queen bees
>Putin retires >Instead of the Western power vacuum the "CPRF" will take over to keep it stable I'm still holding these cards
>>515843729>UAE>saving hohlinaBy shitting in her mouth and throwing down skyscraper?
>>515846516She's still alive ain't she, just paralyzed
Why doesn't Aryan Iran send troops to Ukraine? To stop playing nightmare difficulty against Jews and play normal difficulty against Ukrainians?Iran is a huge country and can really help.If the right wing is to flourish, right wing people have to work together. Otherwise divided you fall.
>>515845942Countries with higher infant mortality rates have higher birth rate. That is why the brith rate skyrocketed in 1922 even thiugh Russia was entirely destroyed. The birth rate of 6 for a low infant mortality is abnormally high, that is why only Afghanistan and some African countries have. Even India doesn't have birth rate that highPutin is trying really hard to get the birth rate back up, he really is, and it is not workingOutside of the governemnt outright forcing people to have children, you cannot as a leader do anything and Putin proves it.
>>515843762Wel. Whom we take in party with us then? Croats, Slovenians and Belarusians? Slovaks maybe?
>>515846020could be anyone's airstrike, maybe the gaza school children airstruck themselves who's to say
>>515846446>From a purely naturalistic perspective, humans and all other organisms* are self-replicators, self-replicators that fail to replicate are obviously faultyYou're ignoring outside factors. Why would White self-replicators suddenly become faulty after centuries or millennia of flawless operation?Oh, das rite. jews. And the jewish inventions of money, banks and capitalism.
>>515846099That's genuinely retarded, sorry. Try acquiring at least a basic understanding of the topic if you wanna discuss it in good faith. I'm not interested in debating strawmanned BS. >>515846102And can you refute his arguments? You are free to flex your inner critique muscles and demonstrate how he was inconsistent. >>515846352It is, in fact. Although any claim of authority will contain a self-referrential loop, it doesn't mean that all such claims are equivalent. Some are more coherent than other.
>>515846508It will probably be Mishustin or some kind of centrist
>>515846777>You're ignoring outside factorsDid you actually read the reply chain? I specifically talked about (((memetic pollution))) that makes white self-replicators faulty
Any alliance based off hate is doomed to fail. You need an alliance based of shared values. Iran should help Russia with troops, Russia is more old demographically so they really need troops.
>>515846516That's Kuwait u doofus
>>515846276Atleast in ye olde days, they used to very categorically make the rules clear or otherwise make sure you knew you were part of a peasant caste. Modern UK might as well be heading towards the most Orwellian police state imaginable and the people wouldn't even notice a thing until Thinkpol drags them out to be shot.
Jet fuel create, steel snicker. Happy late 9/11
>>515846777Because whites have the lowest infant mortality. When people had 7 children that doesn't mean that population increases 3.5 fold every 30 years. Half of these children don't make it into adulthood.If you had to be sure your farm and bloodline had a successor you had to have more children. Today you can have one and it is basically guaranteed that he will live way past adulthood.
>>515846276Reverse caste system where darker skin gives you greater privileges
>>515846909>Born in 2000>Mfw my whole life was fucked due to those two towersIt really fucking sucks.
>>515846705hungarians. they are a mix of slavs and mongols with a tiny bit of g*rman>>515846909maybe they shouldnt build big things with jewish steel.
>>515845942>child mortality reduced by a magnitude le badOk go have 10 kids per wife where 2 survive past the age of 1 again like in good trad days just so numver goes up?Meanwhile sane people look at population growth during the union and population decline in the 90s and add 1 and 1 together. Capitalism for us was a disaster worse than wwii>Chinese have had sex too which is le badCoincidentally under Mao Chinese population grew like never before previously. Let me guess that wasn't real communism?
>>515846694The magical thinking of demographic transitions strikes again. Fertility is not determined by child mortality. Lots of groups (like Amish, fundamentalist Orthodox/Old Believers, Jews) have very high fertility and low infant mortality. Putin can't do anything about fertility because he refuses to correctly define the roots of the problem. "Monetary gibs to raise fertility" have been tried around the world and always fail. Doing what everyone else is doing and failing like everyone else isn't "doing all you can". >>515845927It's DEMOGRAPHIC TRANSITIONS, chud, it's perfectly normal and in fact even progressive to have sub replacement fertility, you see
>>515847208China didn't have such a bloody civil war so people still had 6 children while standard was going up massively, 5 of 6 survived
>>515847015>That doesn't meanBut it does! Under Nicholas, Russian population doubled
>>515847119>Mfw my whole life was fucked due to those two towersDon't worry, your life was fucked long before that, the us sandbox adventures began in 1960s.
>>515847321Putin is banning childless promotion and so far it has done nothing
>>515846784>And can you refute his arguments?why should I?Church people hate wisdom outside the church, more news at 10. They can't refute it themselves though, neither do they care
>>515847208Both are true - communism was a disaster and capitalism was an ever bigger disaster
Board is still at shillcon 1 with the charlie kike bullshit.Burgers are rrally begging to civil war each other and I hope they actually do. Sadly, they are too cucked to even do that and thus nothing ever happens
>>515847409And under Mao it quadrupled, but it always eventually came crashing down
>>515846909happy belated 9/11the second worst day in american history after 9/10 assassination day
>>515847494let's return to the lesser disaster until we figure out something better then
>>515837419The Grateful Dead.
>>515847693Whoever made this needs to be shot
>>515845720>Again - you assume the right to make normative judgements about what is the "healthy norm" and what is "pollution". Where do you derive the standards and right to judge their application?Brah, anything and everything which interferes with the fertility rate being above replacement rate is obviously pollution because it's obviously incompatible with even the medium term survival of the species or race.Women are meant and supposed to be mothers and pop out an absolute minimum of 3 kids.>What you did so far was "naturalistic fallacy"/appeal to normalcy.Wrong. Normalcy is that which is required for the species to persist for longer than a handful of generations. Or that by which the perpetuation of the species is achieved and maintained. Women are supposed to be making kids and raising them. It's as simple as that.>But you can't justify something by just making an observation that "it" exists in nature or was previously practiced in society.At or above replacement lever fertility is a defining characteristic of any and all species. Without at or above replacement fertility, there is no life and whichever point you think you're making is completely moot and irrelevant. >Cannibalism was also previously practiced and widespread in nature, so by same logic, anti-cannibalist propaganda is memetic pollution.1. Not all species are cannibalistic.2. Not all races are cannibalistic.3. All species have at or above replacement fertility or go extinct within a handful of generations.Compare the prevalence of cannibalism with the prevalence of at or above replacement level fertility in the natural world.It's women's role and duty to have a minimum of 3 children. They are delinquent in their debt to society and derelict in their womanly duties otherwise.It's as simple as that. I don't know why this bothers you so much.
>>515847693Is it true that MLK was a rapist?
>>515847693Charlie's tiny face still looks uncanny
>>515847462Of course it does nothing, it's addressing peripheral symptoms instead of root cause. They don't even understand what the route cause is. Or, rather, they refuse to admit it, because it goes against a century of Soviet and liberal ideological indoctrination. It's very simple - more equality, female education and female labor market participation always means less fertility. Less female religiosity means much less fertility. Less patriarchy means less fertility. If they would be serious about raising fertility, they would start by abolishing no fault divorce and mandatory education for women.
>>515847728Not gonna happen. Communists let communism collapse even though most people on referendum voted to keep soviet unionWhy would the average Russian trust them to keep the state together this time?No, communism will not come back until multipolar world order is achieved, only then will the western subversion be stopped
>>515847871how could it be true, any women would willingly have sex with any famous guy
>>515847693hmm.. jews didnt kill mlk, right?
>>515847208>Meanwhile sane people look at population growth during the union and population decline in the 90s and add 1 and 1 together.Like I did.>Capitalism for us was a disaster worse than wwiiPreach it brother. Capitalism is an anti-economic anti-system. A jewish weapon of mass destruction through mass deceit and deception and disinformation.
>>515847693Putting someone who makes money by debating college students and putting the dumbest clips on YouTube next to jesus sure is something.What is protestantism about again? It seems to be losing the plot completely
>>515847512palantir will catch anyone who thinks about chimping outWorks well enough in europe, the only advantage mutts have are niggers. Retarded monkeys cant be palantir'd
>>515847872>Charlie's tiny face
>>515837419the golems>>515837861you are fucking retarded, stop talking any time. anti-religion are godless, бeзбoжники, бeз-бoгa, those who actively deny god, military atheists like judeo-bolsheviks used to call them.atheism is no obsense of god but absense of theism, faithless people, those who do not believe your shit and dont give a fuck.also most amoral people are religious cucks without question, they always do insane shit and then do their "deus vult" justification, just look at the jewed euangellicals in the usa which are seeking to destroy world, actually kill everyone starting thermonuclear armagedon to bring rapture. in this they approve all jewish policies of genocide and slaughter and other retarded jewish bullshit like mutilating their dicks in soft trannification. in moral terms theres nothing worse than being an ideological or religious fanatic cos both justify anything "for the sake of the greater good".retard.
>>515845942>The share of Russia in the world population had decreased by 3;33 times thanks to SovietsThe USSR had a higher population and better nutritional standards than the US for most of its existence, until the capitalist started hitting it and the kikes started the so-called color revolutions.
>>515847462>Putin is banning childless promotion and so far it has done nothingPutin is a cuck at best, a careful and prudent traitor at worst.The only way forward is moving past money, banks and capitalism. Trust no one who doesn't openly call for this.
>>515847946Arabs have a fertility rate barely above 2, some have less than 2.
When is China going to share the jeet melting ray with Russia?Would it even work on hohols?
>>515848071Of course they did. The moment he was going to work together with disenfranchised whites against the kike capitalists, they killed him.
>>515848119Did you not notice before?
>>515848212Putin is for multipolar world order which is the best chance of achieving what you want
>>515842064She is -1/10, take it.
>>515847970Every state collapses eventually, that's not a reason to not ever improve something. If we stopped at the Rurikoids we'd never have an empire. Likewise if there's someone around who manages to bring Marxism into the 21th and 22th century then yes I can see a restoration possible.
>>515848142>better nutritional standards than the US for most of its existenceThe only period when this could be true was era of stagnation. And even then it's still doubtful.
>>515848129Religious people are usually good people, everything bad always comes down to the church itself, not believers.
>>515848119>>515847872
>another christcucks vs fedoratippers breadbruvs y'all cringe
>>515848142Not the USSR fault, but civil war killed literally all cattle in Russia and it took years for meat consumption to come back to the same levelsSo yeah tell that to all the retards in your country cheering for civil war right now
>>515848542Are you going to talk about another 1000 dead hohols in Sneedemfeedemsk?
>>515847321Have you read the articles on Mongolian birth rates?https://nitter.net/MoreBirths/status/1827418468813017441#mBasically it seems the government succeffuly brainwashed its citizens into turning children into status symbols so foids instead of chasing Hermes bags they parade around flocks of little mongols and the tin medal for birthing half dozen of them.Outer Mongolia has 2.5x the birth rates of Inner Mongolia ( China really) and one of the few north East Asian with tfr above 2.Should I get a plus size Mongolian live in maid?
>>515848129>you are fucking retarded, stop talking any time. anti-religion are godless, бeзбoжники, бeз-бoгa, those who actively deny god, military atheists like judeo-bolsheviks used to call them.бeз и пpoтив - paзныe пoнятия
>>515847693Was Lincoln killed by Jews?
>>515848485Wrong. In 1920, the population of the USSR was 137m, while the US was 106. The entire time they were higher. And same for nutritional standards, outside of that time Hitler chimped out.
Should I bake?
>>515848930no
>>515848419i just thought he looked weird and had a big fivehead
i will make it
>>515847946I think it also connected with literacy rates and breaking of the family. Before industrial revolution families were big and patriarch were a boss. kinds helped him to work fields or do small buiseness, and then helped eachother to do their shit. everyone was happy and understanding. Then people were indocrinated into gov schools, broken to be obedient and oversocialized and convinced that working 8-5 somehow okay. Then the collapse started.It is also connected to "having it worse than before" reality because if society experiences enrigchment theres always babby boom but if shit is stagnant or feudal renter class starts raping everyone like it happens in usa people cannot afford houses and are financially enslaved to be endebted workers.>>515848217who told you that. egypt has population to rival russia. gaza is full of kids and young adults. iran doing fine. india is muslim in some parts. and those are poor areas of the world feeling boot of mutt war mongering for recent 40-50 years and even longer in case of egypt.
>>515848930yes
>>515849028Ok
>>515848759>Was Lincoln killed by Jews?I think so. He's known to have been wayciss as fuck and wanted to ship niggers back to the afri-coon in-coon-tinent, in Liberia.
>>515848336>When is China going to share the jeet melting ray with Russia?>>515844225>>515843674>>515843063>Lenin's dreams are coming(...).jpg (>>515848930>Should I bake?Keep baking, CCP shill with Brazilian flag
>>515847475So how is he wrong then? I don't see a problem in his stance so far. Enlightenment thinking is retarded, and abandoning it would be a great idea. >>515847649 and why is that? Let me guess, the magic of democratic transitions? A very convenient model, but alas, it's false. Look into fertility vs mortality in Kazakhstan or Israel. >>515847728How would that return work? What is the concrete plan? >>515847867It doesn't bother me; in fact, I agree with all your value judgements. I'm merely pointing out that your argumentation for them isn't sufficient. "We need fertility because otherwise we die out" is obviously true, but it says nothing about why we must care about eventually dying out. Also, there are transhumanist copes (we will have artificial wombs/personal immortality), ecological copes (dying out is good because muh carbon emissions), etc. You see the problem? It's not that I don't get the link between having kids and not going extinct, it's that you fail to establish a grounded teleology (what's the point of all that continuity) and salience (why it matters). >>515848217Correct - that's because they are doing all the same shit now. Their women all get education and join labor force. >>515848707Right, it's all about insentive structures. You can't just entice with gibs, at least entice with status.
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>>515848489nope, they are compliant people exploited by the jews.>>515848742retard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Militant_Atheists
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>>515849028>i will make it
>>515849193chinks found way to destroy mutts completely they are now using jewish propoganda against the jew
>>515849064Egypt is Arabs but it is in Africa so I didn't count them. I meant middle east. The most extreme Islamists after Taliban are the Saudis for example
>>515849220Arabs are all wife beaters and such. The women can't even show hair or talk without husband permission
>>515849304The only bad thing religious people do is shit talk pagans and put their religion above their country
