> my dad wants photos of the rifle... he says grandpa wants to know who has what, the feds released a photo of the rifle, and it is very unique. Hes calling me m, not answering.Can any /gunfags/ tell me if there’s anything “unique,” about this gun?
>>516301070some kind of ww1 mauser with a modern stock, free float, and expensive af scope.
The scope is mounted pretty far back so it’s set up for a short person or it’s a really shitty scope
>>516301070well if that's an old war gun you would expect it to have a natural wooden stock.it looks like painted wood or even plastic.plastic was harder to get back then
>>516301070I would say the way scope mounted is very unusual, but I reckon its more about grandpa being able to recognize his own gun at a glance
>>516301364Kyle Seraphin (ex FBI whistleblower who's getting sued by Kash's gf for calling her a Mossad Honeypot) pointed out in the jumping off the roof footage that the rifle wrapped in a dark cloth gets slammed on the ground hard as he lands, possibly moving the scope
>>516301321Nah that barrel looks stainless More like a cheap to mid level ruger or savage But idk im not a bolt action expert
>>516301070No, just a dinky hunting rifle bought off the shelf at a gun store. There's millions like it.
Everything about the damn thing is uncanny. I got into an argument about it on day 1 because I thought it looked like a Remington 700 but on closer inspection the Mauser m18 crowd is right, the bolt handle does look exactly like a mauser m18 but the back of the bolt assembly looks like nothing I can identify.
>>516301607it does look like a savage but isnt, the back is wrong. the stock is new composite aftermarket, not a fiberglass bed like old timers would have bolt gun. it looks like a redone grampa gun.
>>516301688I’m pretty the Mauser bolt was pretty much the most cloned bolt ever made.To the point where they had to sue Springfield for it
>>516301070Nothing. It's a fucking cheap-ass Mauser copy from China or something.People keep confusing it with a K98 because that's the famous war-fighting infantry rifle but this is an M98. A sporterized hunting rifle. And you can literally order it in .30-06 becasue MURKA.Of course regular Mausers are chambered in 7.92 mm.
>>516301070I'm not big on knowing all the ins and outs of guns from a blurry photograph. However, it is very odd to me how the scope is mounted. It's very low on the barrel, looks in the way of the bolt, and is mounted with what looks to be antiquated means. Most rifles have rails for the last decade plus. From the shitty resolution it looks like a wood stock painted black, which would track with the ghetto scope mount. A polymer frame would simply be to new not to have the modern rail system. Scope looks low powered and cheap, also tracks with potential ghetto paint job and shitty scope mounts. Also looks to small for the rifle. I have a 4x16 on my hunting rifle and it's one and a half times longer and taller. If I had to guess, it's a cheapy generic 3x9 scope that maxes out at about 200 yards. The rifle itself at this angle looks like a single shot. Not anything crazy, but also not a great choice for assassination. You will almost always have the time to manually load a second shot to double tap any animal you get a shot on. Not so much with large groups of people. Overall, a very impressive firearm. If it was my gun, it would probably never leave the safe.
>>516301976Yeah that's pretty common, though. Like I have a Remlin .22 whose bolt is basically also just a mauser clone bolt. The flare on the back end of the bolt assembly is what throws me off, though. Almost like a Zastava m48 but not quite that either but could point to a clone of a Russian design, post ww2 probably if they're copying german shit.
>>516301070It's an old military mauser with a new aftermarket plastic stock, a new barrel with no sights. The bolt has not been swept back and retains it's old military finish. A low safety has been added to clear the scope. Not a real fancy sporterization.
>>516301070He refers to his dad as “my old man,” like all people under the age of 65 do. You would know that if you kids weren’t so busy listening to you juke boxes at the soda fountain.
>>516301868Yeah a lot of grandpas sported out ww1 and ww2 bolt actions because it was cheaper than buying a new hunting rifle.Thats funny though those rifles would be worth thousands of dollars now if they didn’t fuck with it.
>>516302068The real one looks really nice, as expected from a German rifle company. They of course come with quality optics as well. Not some cheap-ass China scope.
>>516301070cursed scope mounting
>>516301364>you’ll bruise your eye kid
>>516301321it isn't a mauser, dummy. it uses a mauser ACTION. tons of modern bolt action rifles use a mauser action.
>>516301070>Can any /gunfags/ tell me if there’s anything “unique,” about this gun?Mausers are very rare in the US unless they’re historical firearms (Mauser 98, Kar98k, etc) which have a lot of appeal for being used in the world wars. I’ve personally never seen a modernized Mauser 98 in hunting rifle configuration like this. It has to be imported, most hunters in the US would just buy something like a Remington.
>>516301688Oh wait a second, it is literally an M18. I guess authortities were dead-wrong in identifying it.It comes in cheap-ass plastic too.
>>516301070Why do killers even bother with a gun when they could just boot up a drone, hop through 3 VPN's and suicide drone anyone they wanted? Is it an ego thing?
>>516302347Literally nothing in that image matches the recovered gun, Rabbi.
>>516301505There was no rifle in that video, glowie
>>516302315Mauser 98 mechanism does look the closest (but still not quite right) but you're right I've literally never seen somebody put a modern stock on a 98. It would be a sacrilegious butchery of a historical artifact.
>>516302262same thing
>>516302446Well the accessories don't. But the rifle is literally an M18 which you can directly order from Mauser's website. It's the cheap-ass version of the M98. Also the scope is mounted like utter ass too. And it's definitely no ZEISS optic. https://www.mauser.com/en/MAUSER-18-Standard/80112498
>>516302262>It isn’t a Mauser, dummy.You can see the flag safety on the bolt in the FBI pictures, you can go on Mauser’s website and find the exact same model, it’s a modernized, sport version of a Mauser 98.You’re just looking for a reason not to believe the FBI nigger.
>>516302416Drones are easily tracked and so are explosives. The gun you stole out of grandpas safe, not so much. If you can convince your dad and tranny boyfriend not to squeal on you, you're golden, even if you leave the rifle behind.
>>516301505>FBI whistleblower who's getting sued by Kash's gf for calling her a Mossad HoneypotKek, this flew under my radar
>>516302540bolt throw is too long, bolt assembly tapers instead of flares. Different gun.
>>516302491Retard
>>516301505if the scope is that loose then its not zerod and he would have missed his shot by a mile
>>516302347It’s hard to tell because literally all cheap ass synthetic stock bolt actions pretty much look exactly the same
>>516302491No just a long dark object which absolutely could be a rifle.
If it's grandpa's rifle, it's probably some old Husqvarna or JC Higgins dropped into an aftermarket stock. I'm guessing Husky because they're notorious for splitting the original wood stocks at the wrist. Who knows what the scope was.... $2000 scope? Kinda doubtful but you never know.
>>516301070it's just a Mauser sporters
>>516302612>r-r-retardplease tell us more about the FBI approved narrative.
>>516302162Zeiss also makes scopes in the US, you realize this right? The scope on the rifle was allegedly worth $2k. Probably a Leupold.
>>516302619It's been suggested that he wasn't actually aiming for the jugular
>>516302642>>516302584It deifnitely wasn't his gun but someone's from the family. It's still a werid-ass choice, importing some Mauser bolt-action hunting rifle instead of just getting a Remington or something. Alas yes, all these bastardized hunting-rifles look the same. I actually didn't even knew you could get a Mauser in .30-06
>>516302513Bubba boomers chopped up and sporterized millions of those things back when you could buy them by the dozen with your coffee money. They were not rare or valuable.
>>516302691\wow some good evidence there, lmao
>>516302691yes it's wrapped in towel as he says. literal retards cant see this in the video and claim he had no gun as he fled the scene
>>516302416Rigging a drone to blow up Ukraine style takes a good deal of skill and knowledge. Not just to make the actual explosive but also the trigger mechanism. I imagine you'd also have to probably test them out quite a bit before getting it right
It's interesting to see the quality of argument brought by proponents of a certain theory, seems fairly consistent across all threads
>>516302785He was definitely aiming for the head and the shot hit low. I'm certain that he severed the spine pretty hard, shattering the vertebrae which instantly killed Charlie, then the bullet tumbed and cut his carotid artery and jugular in half as it exited.But he certainly wasn't aiming for the neck.Not with that shit-ass scope. >import obscure hunting rifle>put some ass scope on it>with a terrible mount
>>516302554my winchester has the same safety
>>516302864>as he saysSource?
The mechanics and optic mount position seem to match this known example of an M98 sporter.
>>516302951>Source?yesterday's newshttps://www.newsweek.com/tyler-robinson-roommate-lance-twiggs-charlie-kirk-texts-2130798
>>516302691So you're saying he didn't disassemble the rifle before he jumped. But later disassembled it, then reassembled it and hid it.Glowie narrative is so retarded, but they're still gonna get away with it. Fuck this gay earth.
>>516302068I couldn't find any mauser action 30-06 that has a bolt that looks like the one they released a pic of, at least currently for sale.Maybe if its some chink knock off.
>>516302932>importhe said in his troontexts it's his grandpa's gun
>>516302777checked. >no gold ringprobably a Temu sight. and they've joked about it prior. Or grandpa said it was 2k back in the day and told his bf that when they went out shooting a couple times with the tranny group
>>516301505>pointed out in the jumping off the roof footage that the rifle wrapped in a dark cloth gets slammed on the ground hard as he lands, possibly moving the scopenot only there was no gun it's one of the more absurd bullshit I've ever read in my life
>>516302932I think the dumbass missedIn the conspiracy threads you can see a bullet come from behind Charlie and exit out his jugularYou just gotta ignore the stupid fucks saying it was a camera gun There’s some really good video evidence that the jugular was the exit wound
>>516303073>But later disassembled it, then reassembled itWas that in the official timeline? Or did he just run off with it in the towel and chuck it in the woods?
>>516303073>liesNo one ever said he disassembled the gun after the shot. >Utah Police did not say this. >FBI did not say this. >I did not say this. You are a well-poisoning demon and your time will soon come.
>>516303091Or just some custom job. There are millions of hacked up Mausers in the US. GIs brought them home by the truckload and then sold them for peanuts. Then boomers sporterized them for hunting using all kinds of fucked up methods. It's entirely possible that bolt is some cheap crap a machinist knocked out in an hour in the 60s or 70s.
>>516301070Looks like a basic bitch hunting rifle, 26” barrel, top loading, no crazy customizations from this photo, $500-$1,000. Common scopes range between $200 to $3000 so it’s tough to say without knowing the brand. Also kinda looks like the scope rings are broken, or may just be the low res of the photo. Scope is definitely pushed back, front scope ring should not be making contract with the adjustment turrets. Could be the result of a fall/hitting the ground at the right angle.
>>516302932>I'm certain that he severed the spine pretty hard, shattering the vertebrae which instantly killed Charlie, then the bullet tumbed and cut his carotid artery and jugular in half as it exited.too bad we'll never know because the bullet wasn't recovered and no autopsy performed and the crime scene has already been destroyed.Oh well I guess we'll just have to believe the trustworthy people at the FBI amirite fellow anons?>>516303025>he actually believes pic relatedholy shit what a fucking retard
>>516303141>gold ringnot every scope has one. here's one for $2k you can buy at walmart. looks similiar
>>516302785i would still bet my shirt that if the scope was loose enough to move out of position when you jump ~6 feet you would miss by more than a few inches
>>516303219Yeah and as this one anon mentions. >>516301607shitty stainless steel barrel could be result of shitty DIY .30-06 conversion.
>>516303219>>516303016I didn't see it when i posted, but this is actually the closest I've seen that someone else posted above.
>>516303186No he is just a moron who is confused by a basic chain of events
>>516301070the "unique" part is simply the scope set up and probably after market stock. Like others are saying this is probably some mauser derived hunting rifle that gramps threw a scope on.
>>516301070He stole the rifle, grandpa hears the feds describe his gun, he finds it is missing, phones the father, father phones the gay furfag son and says where's the gun
>>516303107Yeah, he wasn't the one who bought it. He just used whatever he had. But his grandpa still needs a damn good excuse about owning an abomination like this.Then again he could have just got it at a gun-show. I wouldn't believe he bastardized a K98 for this. Especially going thorugh the trouble of re-chambering and re-barreling it.
>>516303252(obviously it's not the scope) i'm just making a point that not all of them have gold rings.
>>516302347almost thought it was a rem710>common pawn shop gun
>>516303247i could see the gun wrapped in a towel the first time i saw the video. your eyes are full of the shit leaking out your head
>>516301070The palmswell shape is uncommon and wtf is that connecting back to the stock. Never seen that before but im not a big BA guy.
>>516303288>the 4 pixel who bend in the shitty video is a gun wrapped in a towel I mean you guys are beyond retarded to begin with you can look as hard as you want the dude who jump from the roof have no gun he also never had a gun going to the roof
>>516303247Another thing he neglected to consider. Gay breakup in 2-3 years. He'd have had a gay ex who knew he killed Charlie Kirk.
>>516303247>too bad we'll never know The indoctrinated trannyfucker made the shot with an abomination rifle. Where he aimed doesn't really matter all that much. He did it.
>>516303091>he thinks chink weapons are allowed for sale in the USthey aren't dude
>>516303358the furniture is a match. That might be what makes the gun unique.>Start with Mauser 98>Shitty hamfisted DIY .30-06 conversion>mounted in modified R700 furniture. The reason the gun looks so uncanny is that it's basically the gun of Theseus.>Start with iconic firearm (M98)>replace 98% of it to make custom sporter
>>516301070The gun that shot Charlie Kirk?Yeah, it's very unique.It's a cctv camera gun custom made by mossad.
>>516303423>the dude who jump from the roof have no gunare you even whiteopinion discarded
>>516303446(other than shitty SKSs)
>>516302262It's a Mauser 98 Sporter with a sythetic stock, they sell them in .30-06.
>>516303193>No one ever said he disassembled the gun after the shot.You just did. None of those pictures you posted showed a gun, so he must've disassembled it before he jumped.Watch the reflection in the windows when he jumps, you can see his hands, there is no gun. JIDF aren't sending their best.
>>516302315Yeah, there's a billion contract mausers in the US though. Back in the 60s there were even gunsmiths that specialized in taking milsurp mausers and rebarreling them and sporterizing them. Reality is it's most likely one of the 10s of thousands of sporterized milsurp mauser action rifles, all of which would have unique markings that would make each firearm appear to be very individual. Sure it could be an M98, but I think that's less likely.
>>516301070>Can any /gunfags/There's a whole fucking board of them you stupid cunt fuck off
>>516303467I literally can't imagine the person who'd go through all that trouble to make a nice rifle into some sort of an abomination.Even if M98s or K98s were in overabundance in the 50s.
>>516303474Will you shut the fuck up about the camera gun
>>516303186>12:17 suspect climbs over wall onto the rooftop>12:22 suspect stands up and starts running across rooftop (No limp, assumption Gun is no longer in pants/already assembled)>12:22 suspect goes prone>12:23 Shot>12:23 suspect stands up runs to the NE Corner of Losee Center (this is the footage we have)>12:24 Suspect runs north across Campus Drive road carrying an unknown itemSource: Affidavit from the arrest warrant.>>516303548Don't @ me faggot
>>516303574/k/ was taken over by NAFO trannies and kikes. Whole place is Ukrainesworts.
>>516301070Why would he explain to his boyfriend he was living with that his dad is MAGA? Wouldn't the boyfriend already know t his?
>>516301070Dude made a shot from 200y and knows nothing about the gun much less how to sight or account for conditions he used to make the shot except “grandpas gun” and does it on a first shot attempt with tons of video “evidence” showing the shot likely came from another direction, then dropped the gun and fled but was keeping an eye on it? K
It’s a custom Mauser. Customs are actually fairly common but they’re all unique since obviously they’re custom. If you search around gun auction sites you’ll find gunsmith built custom rifles using Mauser parts. In this case it looks like the stock is unique and I guess maybe something about it being able to be disassembled although I don’t actually know the details about that. So if there’s anything “unique” about it it’s that: a custom build.
>>516303588They believe they are making something cool. Kind of like how every troon thinks they pass.
>>516302691>>516303364>i could see the gun wrapped in a towel the first time i saw the video.You can't see shit faggot
>>516303491cope how you want there's still no gun there tard
>>516303274>shitty stainless steel barrel could be result of shitty DIY .30-06 conversionmany people prefer stainless steel, dummy. it doesn't rust as easily as a blued barrel.
>>516303219That’s what it is. They’re all over gun shoes and auctions here in Pennsylvania. Gunsmiths take Mauser parts and drop them into custom builds and sell them like that. Some are worth more than others probably. When they say the fun is unique beyond whatever scope that is, they could just mean it’s a custom built rifle by some gunsmith.
>>516303643>Why would he explain to his boyfriend he was living with that his dad is MAGA?good think
>>516303430>We don't need forensics or an autopsy or any evidence>It's a heckin open and shut case goySorry Moshe but everyone knows Israel did this
>>516301070looks like poymer furniture on it .the scope is what a 7x magnification ? that’s an easy shot at 200 yards if zeroed accordingly.
>>516303750Ukraine lost. Now go back to your containment board you dumb kike.
>>516303193LOOK AT THE FUCKING FLOPPY BAG YOU VP KIKE AND TELL ME THATS A FULLY ASSEMBLED GUN.
>>516303678your goggles are greasy, wipe them off 4 eyes
>>516301070difficult to break down, and the official story would have to believe he broke it down to transport it in, broke it down again in the 2 second between shooting and running off the roof, and then supposedly reassembled it before discarding it. You cannot possibly remove the barrel and reattach it and have it maintain accuracy. also the scope is mounted extremely poorly. see >>>/gif/29469360
>>516303588A lot of the time they don’t start with the actual gun. It’s just parts. Every gunsmith has a room just full of fucking parts that can be cobbled together to make a custom gun.
>>516303524why is the scope mounted so far back?
>>516303643fake logs to exonerate the troon bf and all their other accomplices and put all the blame on the shooter
>>516303252right of course. and that it a modern-ish optic. You can see the vague integrated throw rod 3-9 markings? maybe 1-8? here's a Temu one that looks similar (it's rare to see an optic with only 2 knobs, no?)
>>516301321>expensive af scope.Eh, unless you have a way higher quality photo or a close up photo of the scope, I don't think anyone can tell what the brand or model that optic is, it really looks like a basic 3-9x scope that most boomers use for hunting.The fact that the scope is mounted that far back giving you one of the worse eye relief and eye box setup, I'm going to assume its a cheap optic setup and was installed with little to no care in the world for a basic hunting rifle setup.
>>516301364Eye relief is basically a personal choice based on where you're willing to place your head on the cheek rest. You dont even own guns, and you're an idiot. Keep your brainshits to yourself.
>>516303561This guy is right.
>>516303588They were cheap as shit Kinda like mosins and sks were cheap surplus “garbage rods” up to like 5 years ago.People just didn’t give a fuck and would jimmy rig the shit out of them because they were heavy as fuck and cheap as hell
>>516303588It happened constantly. The fudds have extremely narrow ideas of what makes a proper hunting rifle. Replacing a bunch of the military hardware with very similar "hunting" hardware and rechambering it for a "proper" caliber is right up their alley, especially back when those were the cheapest guns you could get. My great-grandfather had a gun box full of mausers and they got beat to shit. Never cleaned, thrown back in the box still loaded, used to pry or prop stuff up out in the woods. They didn't respect the dirt cheap guns because they could get as many as they could ever want.
>>516301505>Kyle Seraphin (ex FBI whistleblower who's getting sued by Kash's gf for calling her a Mossad Honeypot) pointed out in the jumping off the roof footage that the rifle wrapped in a dark cloth gets slammed on the ground hard as he lands, possibly moving the scopeaka a lying glownigger. https://youtu.be/S10WGaxrSlI
>>516301070He/they were talking in code. This was an organized crime. They were trained very well on how to do this, by others who knew what they were doing.
>>516303561FYI this would also explain why he mentioned he doesn’t even know if the fun had a serial number on it. It’s just some cobbled together custom job.
>>516303779You're going way too hard dude, people are going to figure out what the actual psyop is at this rate
>>516303832this guy answers that question >>516303861Personal preference.Grandpas gun. Old man.Doesn't like to crane his neck forward to shoot. Shorter eye relief allows him to keep his neck more vertical maybe.
>>516303799what's stupid too is no footage we're what a week later and you tell me there's zero (0) clean footage from any camera anywhere of the dude with the gun climbing on the roof and going down they can only release that
>>516301070If the shooter was Far-Right it all makes sense.However the shooter is half Marxist/half "alt-right".
>>516303946>he didnt check his grandpa's gun for SN>this means he made the gun
>>516303782imagine getting this triggered because i stated a commonly known easily researched fact
>>516303832>why is the scope mounted so far back?It's determined by the eye relief rating of the scope, and where your cheek weld is. different people have different sized arms and shoulder width, so each will have a slightly different sweet spot that is most comfortable for holding the rifle. Comfort = accuracy as straining to hold a slightly off position introduces inaccuracy.
>>516304054It's just that I don't talk to kikes. So fuck off.
>>516303345The good excuse is that even 15 years ago I could buy sporters for under $200 from pawn shops. Most of the sporters were rebarreled by competent gunsmiths and were made from host rifles that were numbers matching, not all the force matched electro penned shit that you find now. Argentine contract, chilean contract, spanish, portuguese, yugo, shit I even had an israeli mauser in .308 at one point that was a tack driver. All bought for between $50 and $200.
>>516302141Its coded language, taught to the tranny group by foreigners who thought that's what Americans sound like when they talk to each other.
>>516304054You disgusting kike demon piece of shitDon't fucking talk to me.
>>516303594Easy big guy. Keep harassing him and he's going to start spazzing about titanium sapi plates.
>>516301070The scope for starters is in a weird place. Plus it being an old gun is not very common for it to be painted yet this one is. There's other things as well but if my rifle went missing I would be able to know very well if I see it on TV. I made some modifications to my AR-15 myself.
>>516303424>Another thing he neglected to considerit's some DEI FBI agents creative writing, not a real conversation>I had planned to grab my rifle from the drop point>there's one vehicle lingering>I think they already swept that pointyep just your average conversation between a 22 year old and his tranny bf minutes after pulling off a perfect executing then admitting to it and every piece of evidence found so far, lmao.If you believe this you have 80IQ max, not even MIGA boomers on twitter are swallowing it.
>>516303977Unfortunately like Butler we we'll always be left with questionsGonna be so sad when this kid dies mysteriously in prison and gets cremated in record time
>>516303832Maybe the eye relief is funky, or the guy who owned it leans his head way back. I've seen a guy aim with his cheek practically on the butt before.
>>516303524It might be a custom, going by this bloghttps://shoot-on.com/sporterizing-the-ubiquitous-mauser-98/Gramps is gonna be pissed if he went to all that trouble
>>516303799I don't think it was a bag at all. I think it was the towel that the gun was supposedly found wrapped in, and the rifle falls out of it when he drops down
>>516303949>jewish parasite>accusing me of psy-ops for not following the FBI narrative110 is coming
>>516304027Holy fuck you are an illiterate ape. Thanks for the selfie dumbass.
>>516303645haha good point. “i guess grandpas gun works pretty good” is such an odd comment and awkward phrasing to someone you are dating.secondarily, he never shot it before ? and didn’t know if it was zeroed and if so for what range ?so if that’s true and not complete BS, let’s guess that grandpa already zeroed it for 100 yards. a typical 30-06 round out of that rifle will hit 3 -4 inches low at 200 yards if zeroed for 100. which means he was aiming for his head , not center mass. interesting, if it’s not completely fabricated texts
>>516304079>>516304115
>>516301505Kyle Seraphin is a retard who denies the existence of 764 and com
>>516304220Yup, it was a towel.
>>516301321$2,000 scope
>>516303645Buy. A. Gun. Learn. How. To. Shoot. And. Feel. Bad. For. Being. Such. A. Retard.
>>516302144>those rifles would be worth thousands of dollars now if they didn’t fuck with itCollectors brain. Things are valuable because they're rare. If all those guys keep them original they wouldn't have the same value because there would be more of them.
>>516304323
>>516303588You're talking about a group of people who "won the war with the m1 garand". They treated milsurp bolt actions like garbage, but their m1s got the reverance you would expect the rest to receive. Honestly the germans were the only ones who actually made quality rifles. All the various contract mausers are pretty underwhelming for everyone except autists with an argie fetish or something. Contract mausers were, and still are, far more common.
>>516303991>half right/half leftFull Israeli patsy
>>516303467>>516303588>>516303831>"Well ya see, Bill, the original owner, bought it out of a sears catalog for a Christmas sale cause he was reading alot about killing commies at the time, and you know how that goes...well after a bit he was pissed about not finding 8mm anywhere cause apparently everyone had that idea, but he liked the wood so he got Jim to replace the barrel with a 30-06. It did well enough until his wife convinced him he couldn't buy a new gun until he sold one of his and he wanted that fancy new .308 that was gonna replace the 30-06...So he sold it to Jim, the second owner who needed the wood for his original mauser and figured out that shitty pawn shop 30-06 had pretty much the same measurements so he....">ad infinitum
>>516302068>>516302540>>516303107Century Arms International, totally no glowing relationship to the CIA used to arrange arms deals with countries where they got back a lot of lend lease and surplus guns handed down to 3rd world countries. Mausers among other things traded for newer guns. Lots of countries importers wouldn’t normally be allowed to touch. Likely a Centurion 98. They look all different because they’re just parts thrown together. Someone would recognize it because they’re all different.
>>516304220it's clearly just a towel or a jacket he put there, so he don't cut himself with the roof corner no gun there even less that "fall down" what a joke
>>516303645>>516304368He wasn't new to guns.As I understand that 200y shot with a scope is not THAT impressive.
>>516301070Why doesn't america just ban assault rifles?
>>516304272>secondarily, he never shot it before ? and didn’t know if it was zeroed and if so for what range ?plus he supposedly disassembled it, transported it to the scene, reassembled it (couldn't possibly have zeroed it), took the shot, then disassembled it in the 2 seconds between shooting and running, and then reassembled it before dumping it.
>>516303193>>516303606VP kike BTFO and ran away. Many such cases.
>>516304054Yeah wtf was that about?
>>516304460
>>516303645You would be surprised at how little most gun owners know about their firearms. Especially people who use handmedowns, many of them are still quite capable of using them.
>>516301070>bubba'd mausershameful
>>516304445my neighbor works for Century Arms in sales and walks around with a gold AK necklace lmao. nice guy but it’s kind of “lord of war “ cringe
>>516302788The dude was a fucking retard. He could have purchased a gun from a gun show or other second hand choices without needed to be tracked. Plus had he used leather gloves he wouldn't have his prints on it. Then after that he could then throw the gun away and disappear. Then he doesn't tell a soul what he did and the feds would have is some pictures. While the dad might be suspicious the retard could have acted offended by the idea of him being the killer. A simple "wtf dad how can you accuse me of something like that. I wasn't a fan of Charlie Kirk blah blah blah". I'm actually happy that the person who did it is a fucking retard and not some tacticool handsome dude like the Luigi guy because it's hilarious how nobody wants to take ownership of him.
>>516304272Seemed pretty obvious to me he was aiming for the head. Always keep on mind that these freaks don’t want to just kill you. They want your head to explode on your kids.
>>516302315> the US unless they’re historical firearms (Mauser 98, Kar98k, etc) which have a lot of appeal for being used in the world wars. I’ve personally never seen a modernized Mauser 98 in hunting rifle configuration like this. It has to be imported, most hunters in the US would just buy something like a RemingtonYou don’t know shit about hunters.Everyone’s grandfather had a sporter rifle converted from military surplus.Even if they had a nice Remington or Winchester in their cabinet, they never could resist a hundred buck conversion and tons were done on Mausers and Steyrs, besides the all 1903 Springfields that could also have been sportered back in the 50s and 60s… they were hundred buck rifles, and most of that was the scope because they government was dumping 1000 rifle lots at 8-9 grand at the time… the gun itself was under ten bucks to the companies making conversions
>>516303467It's probably a custom, who would put a good scope on it if it was a shitter. It looks pretty involved to convert one though.https://shoot-on.com/sporterizing-the-ubiquitous-mauser-98/Grandpa probably paid someone to sporterize it and convert it, there are plenty of gunsmiths doing wild shit in the united states.
>>516304410point out a single post of mine in this thread that you don't agree with you little nigger
>>516304472He was up there for like 20 minutes.
>>516303889the mutilated sks that were flying around then were just amazing
>>516304509can’t stand how only 1/3rd of the stock is actually shoulder to his twink body
Where did the box come from?
>>516304460>As I understand that 200y shot with a scopeAnd its shooting a 30 caliber rifle ammo, and no wind will affect it at that distance. As long as the rifle setup was zeroed appropriately, its an easy shot for someone with average shooting experience.
>>516304568I agree , just seems risky to me. the center mass shot is a kill with that round anyway, but yes it has less of a psychological effect
>>516304641the FBI to transport it cut in budget you know
>>516304460It wasn't 200 yards, look at google maps yourself, the absolute max it could have been was 130ish and it was probably more like 125 yards.I could make the shot with open sights from 125 and I'm not that experience a rifle shooter.
>>516304580imagine talking to a kike >>516304597>He was up there for like 20 minutes.the issue is he must have broken it down before running because it wasn't seen on any of the videos and then reassembled it before dumping it, not to mention as soon as you break it down it totally loses zero and is therefore no longer accurate.
>>516303919>dropping it broke the picatinny rail sure. They really don't think some American's own guns?
>>516304641>Where did the box come from?
>>516304568>Seemed pretty obvious to me he was aiming for the head
>>516304460Yeah most people zero there scope at either 100 or 200 yards
>>516304707just to expand on this further, no pun intended , imagine if kirk’s head exploded. instead of the neck shot. i’m actually not sure if that’s more shocking or less shocking than the arterial spraying neck killshot and decorticate posturing of his hands
>>516301070I was in the market for a mauser m18 for a while, it checks out. I would have got one but the stock length is longer than American style bolt guns that I'm used to
>>516304137>The scope for starters is in a weird placeNot really, its based on eye relief (the distance from the back ocular lens to your eye when aiming). The really cheap amazon specials have shitty eye relief which can vary a lot based on magnification level. One can have 2.5" relief, the other 4.5". Some long eye relief "scout scopes" can be 8 or 9" of eye relief to give the shooter more FOV and situational awareness when the glass is mounted so far forward.A good scope like a nightforce or a Leupold mark 4HD has barely any shift in eye relief when adjusting power from min to max (3.6" to 3.9" over its full adjustment range from 4.5x to 18x power).
>>516304744doesn't appear to have a picatinny rail
>>516304910broke the weld? Did they pinch the scope rings onto the plastic?
>>516304881>kiwi flag>buying a gun
>>516304272They're almost never zeroed at 100, even the pack says where to zero them and its usually 200. Its just a slightly bad shot. Its not as easy when you're not on a shooting bench with the rifle on sandbags
>>516303799You know that guns come apart pretty easy right? Breaking down a rifle can be done in a few seconds on the easiest ones. You're not a noguns, right anon?
>>516304732i don't get what i said to make you call me a kike? i know guns so i'm from /k/ and jewish? wtf is wrong you retards
>>516304846he was never shot in the neck to begin with because there's no exit wound all you pretend gunfag are just that larping homos
>>516304964Note that I was in the market for a bolt action, not a semi
>>516304846actually , if he aimed center mass , it’s the most survivable shot for KIRK. if the rifle was zeroed for 100 , or 50 yards whatever, just making a random assumption since he was likely aiming for the head and was 4-5 inches low , he would have been 4-5 inches low for center mass and MAYBE kirk survives thst with emergency surgery and it nkt hitting criticalorgans. i assume his organs are still fucked from hydrostatic shock but just spitballing here
>>516304707>center mass shot is a kill with that round>if it hit his head it would've explodedlucky it hit the neck and only put a little hole in it, we all know the neck is tougher than the skull, lmao.
>>516301070bolt actions have looked like that basic profile for several decades, but the bolt itself and the scope mounting do look older, not like something you'd pick up at the gun shop
>>516301070Yeah thats a Steyr Scout, incredibly accurate, can get hardships while moving without using the scope
>>516305036>Note that I was in the market for a bolt action, not a semiwhat's your lawful purpose for owning a gun kiwike?
He hid it, planned to go back, and thought he had got away with it lol... planned to sail into the sunset with his tranny gf
>>516305028>i know guns so i'm from /k/oh sorryNAFO faggot just a spiritual kike
>>516304528I’m sure they’re still involved with some stuff, space coast glows as hard as DC. Factory bubba’d surplus used to be their specialty.
>>516305046little hole ? lmao
>>516304744Boomers and normies in general are notorious for not properly torquing the mounting screws
>>516305030the exit wound is the neck wound, noguns fag
>>516305039shooting downhill on a 30 degree slope (or from a building a low rooftop) at 100 yards with 165gr .30-06 has a vertical POI shift of about 1.2" caused by the difference in elevation on a 100 yard zero. It's a very small factor at that close a range.
>>516305092Some of the best hunting ever is in NZ, dumbfuck
>>516305097>yeah I did do it>yeah I did leave the gun>yeah I left no evidence besides these text message detailing my crimes and evidenceabsolutely no one believes this is real, lmao.
>>516305092I happen to live in the freest country in the world when it comes to hunting. Unlimited deer access all year round in high numbers all free for me to navigate. I googled other countries to go hunting in and nothing compares
i graphed all the possible peeps involved in one way or another
>>516305097Kek was he thinking he could just sneak back later that night and recover it lmao
>>516305030>you all pretend gunfagHoly fuck go back to India you shit mess faggot retard. Umumbili booja nee bombom cow pooty fucking joke ass people with a jome ass language
>>516305138i didn't say anything wrong in this thread. i didn't mention ukraine or nato or anything. you are just a bandwagoning faggot who who mistakes his own ignorance for intelligence.
>>516304578>>516302315There's tons of mauser variants because it was by far the most popular bolt action rifle for militaries for decades. South Americans used them, Persians, Japs, etc. They're not particularly rare at all. Also, after the wars people could basically freely copy their designs and resell them under their own name (eg. Mark X) so you see a lot of those as well. Nowadays they've gotten expensive to the point where a cheap piece of shit remington uncontrolled feet made of melty plastic is about the same price as a beat up mauser so people go for those. The mauser action is inherently more expensive to manufacture than others due to its controlled round feed capability amongst others, so it has fallen out of favor lately now that everyone is poor.
>>516305236>30 degree
>>516305169yes a little hole compared to what it should've done.
>>516305317Nice work, delete it tho, don't give it to the FBI for free
>>516301436They make plastic/polymer upgrades for old guns. The metal parts pop out of the wood stocks.
>>516305236so you think he was aiming for the head , but the shot was just not the best shot , and he was probably not prone , potentially crouched and full of adrenaline . that makes sense
>>516305382>australian intellectuals
>>516305375Yep, also heavy of course. There is still a mauser brand though, and they have the same notch in the stock behind the pistol grip
>>516301505>>516301496It’s also possible that’s where it was, bunch of noguns fags. Look at optimal scope placement for shooting prone. Your ejector makes sure the casing flys out the side, not directly up, so the scope ring being set over the ejection port is a nothingburger. Kids uncle Mike (prob Gramp’s son) is a legit retired special forces now instructor for Ukraine among others. I dont doubt they knew what they were doing.
>>516305270So you think the fbi just fabricated evidence entirely and that wouldn't immediately throw the case when any lawyer who isn't lionel hutz or nick rekeita could prove they falsified evidence?
>>516305376That was an example off the chart, I didnt check Kirks exact angle. The point was the ballistic trajectory is barely affected by elevation at that distance. >>516305417>so you think he was aiming for the head , but the shot was just not the best shot , and he was probably not prone , potentially crouched and full of adrenalineExactly. at this close a range human error > all other sources of innacuracy.windage, elevation, etc ar an inch or fractions of inches at close range on a calm day. But "first time shooting a man and being out of breath from climbing on a roof" is the biggest factor. Bullet could have gone anywhere, or grazed him.
>>516305417I think he was center mass and probably shaky as fuck. As soon as you aim at an animal head you think what will happen if you're off and the temptation to just aim for chest and have margin of error is pretty strong.He wasn't a gun guy otherwise he'd use his own gun and he'd also use a more accurate round like 308 or sneedmoor
>>516305549Naw it's always fucking idiots who've never even shot a pellet gun who think the 1 sentence drivel from a news report informed them.You WANT a sight to be as far back as possible for the minimum possible difference of angle between the barrel and the sight picture.It's normal.
>>516305396Yeah like the JEETBI with the Israeli honeypot girlfriend is gonna get to the actual bottom of this like he did with the Epstein files
>>516305698Also just set up sor standing shooting. I do that too, I mount it in the perfect way for standing and then a few weeks later when I happen to go prone the scope is too fucking far back lol. Maybe thats why he was off, couldn't get a good cheek weld
>>516303606>Suspect jumps off roof carrying nothing.Forgot one
>>516305382not sure that’s accurate. I mean your jsut guessing or going with the worst case scenario . what’s your experience studying 30-06 exit wounds at 130 yards on human torsos ? if no experience that’s fine.30-06 diameter is 7.62 mm in diameter least case scenario exit wound is going to be .2-.5Mid-range (common for soft-point or if the bullet yaws/tumbles or produces more cavitation) : .6 - 1.6 inches High / worst reasonable range (bullet fragments, expands, strikes bone, or causes large cavitation/irregular tearing) 2 inches -4.5 inches +
>>516305743What if I told you he does nothing at all except humiliate the American national spirit
>>516305698All most people see on the internet are LPVO’s mounted on AR’s which have to have larger eye boxes because optics was a total afterthought on AR’s. Very difficult to get it as far back as you want, especially with the OG stocks.
>>516305610It's not difficult to aim for the head at 150 meter, not with a fucking scope. Tyler was probably adrenaline rushed, shaky, poorly rested (the gun shooting position), and made a mistake when pulling the trigger like clenching or anticipating recoil. Clenching when firing pulls a gun in and down.
>>516301070It's like a bog standard fudd and hunting rifle, there is nothing special about it whatsoever.
>>516305887I say we do an experiment with like a pig because that’s the closest thing to a humans anatomy How to recreate a human neck torso and head will be the tricky partAlso what kind of ammo did he use?
>>516302932Yet he still did it. With all the criticism in the world, with the shittiest cheapest gear and a brain so retarded it could only understand fake kike red vs blue politics, he went and killed someone he thought was his enemy. Literally anyone who wants to so this can, regardless of their target's security. So, can any mutts tell me why Larry Fink is still alive?
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>>516305958 still confused on where the bullet entered. his face BLOATS and puffs up from what i assume is hydrostatic shockwave causing cavitation and then his neck explodes what seems to be after that
>>516305887>30-06 vs neck shaped meat. His head should've been half off while falling. >no it didn't curve when it hit flesh. that would mean all the energy was transferred then we'd see a watermelon effect. >why isn't the tent painted? he was less than 3 ft from it
>>516305698different depending on what you're doing. On something you're clearing rooms with you'd want it further forward, because:a.) you're going to be too stressed to look down it properly, having it further forwards gives you a more natural way to use the rifle (it's not as optimal optically, but makes more sense if you consider other factors)b.) a lot of people bang themselves in the eye due to recoil if it's too far back
>>516306132We will never be able to analyze without high quality, and higher fps, footage. All the public video is about as bad as it gets.
>>516306132option one seems to be the one that holds the most water, but this was made before cameragun option was explored
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>>516306156lmao wild. so where did it exit ? his back has a giant hole in it ?
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>>516306249interesting. thanks for posting that
>>516301070I domt get it. they keep talking about the rifle and saying it's a old mauser. Then they keep showing pics of a basic ass bolt action. In the released text thread the kid says it was a 2k scope etc. that's not a 2k scope or a mauser rifle. Could be a mauser action, amd that's why the keep saying it? but that's no k98 wood mauser
>>516306264All blood is in front of him except for the bit of blood trickling from behind his ear as he falls
>>516305913I propose the next fbi meeting be met a random set of train tracks
>>516306249lmfao armortards. I thought it was clear he wasn’t wearing a vest because nipple visibility
>>516305958Not difficult in some circumstances but in his one it would have been hard, terrifying too because he was probably thinking a cop might see him and dome him at any point.At least we all agree it wasn't a deliberate throat shot, that was silly
>>516306287bears chests are normally thicker than a human neck too.
>>516302691this piece of shit purposely lowered the quality of the images to try and push a fed narrative. all he had was a backpack. eat shit you bloody basterd son of bitch you suck at your job
>>516306051>>516306083>>516306156>>516306252>>516306287A piece of meat on a table is not a person, a deer is not a person, hunting cartridge type X is not like cartridge type Y, and finally, ballistic gel overrepresents what happens in a real body.Go watch videos comparing fmj, jhp, otm, softpoint, ballistic tip hp, and ballistic tip softpoints.If the bullet hit his spine and was a fragmenting type it might have disintegrated. The spine is the strongest fucking bone structure in the body. Note, you hopeless autist, i didnt say its the strongest bone in the body. Strongest bone structure.
>>516306373right but then where is the giant blown apart exit wound , shouldn’t we have seen a baseball sized hole in the back of his skull . i’m trying to understand the giant exit wound everyone keeps mentioning
>>516306264the theory is it exited from his neck.
>>516306351It’s a cheap scope, you can tell by the small size of the objective lens and shorter length. Don’t even need to know the brand.
>>516306517There is a video of a chair suddenly being knocked over
>>516306551Probably is cheap but thats also hunting vs target scope size
>>516306517everyone is disagreeing with me because “hold too small”. i have 5 firearms but admittedly i don’t hunt or shoot folks . jsut have seen a ton of different rifle executions up close (not 130 yards ) and the giant cavitation exit wound doesn’t always seem to happen
>>516306351Yeah, Mauser actions are one of, if not the most, copied actions of all time. They're just using it as a blanket term because it's just some random piece of shit. Regarding the 2k scope, my guess is the grandpa is a bullshitter and he's an autist so he took an exaggeration as literal. Or the tranny is adding details in his fabricated text chain to exonerate himself.
>>516306634hole too small *
>>516306516that's what the hole in his neck is. The exit hole of a smaller round. My theory is a sub .300blk could do that and be masked by the patsy shot really easy. It doesn't need a long barrel to maintain rotation and if it's a suppressed bolty a sneeze is louder. but it would make the kid in white shirt flinch twice, and the kid in black shirt raise his hand to ear if they were close enough to it
>>516305361you were memeflagging, all memeflags are kikes.>captcha XPAT0
>>516306663Mauser is still a brand, look up mauser m18. Competitor to tikka t3, made by blaser group
>>516306634Yeah that why I’m saying. it was probably a pistol maybe like suppressed 45 because it’s ammo is already subsonic in case the fucking retard missed like the trump one did and he did.But you also see video of other people fake shooting him with hand gestures It was definitely a coordinated effort
>>516306695ok i understand what you are saying. Yeah because when you freeze frame a different angle he makes the hydrostatic bloated austism face first (bullet enters somewhere, starts causing cavitation ) and then the neck wound appears after making me assume the exit wound was the neck wound.
>>516306466why did you include me in your response? i agree with you. i was showing that aussie what an 30-06 entrance and exit wound look like on a bear.
Aw fuck we woke up the 2nd shooter retards.I'm out.
>>516306729Sure, my point is it's not a rechambered K98 like some people are making it out to be. It could be a Mauser brand Mauser or one of the other quintillion copies.
>>516306516Because all these idiots are impulsive that they just shoot with fmj target ammo. Goes right through if it doesn’t hit anything. Even hydrostatic shock is overrated because a lot of the tissue pulls back to its original shape. Also without actually being there it’s hard to know exactly what angle he was facing at that moment to the shooter. People need to stop with the retard camera gun theories, if Mossad wanted to do it they just influence some impressionable young dumbass groomed by his spook uncle at a very young age. Probably got first dibs on that boipussy. Probably better off looking into who he was than how it wasn’t him.
>>516306698that's the most retarded argument ever when VPN's exist
>>516301070It's crazy that he would've gotten away with it, if not for this rifle and his dad.
For gods sake use Google you idiots.Mauser produced the M98 action in a variety of calibers.It's an older m98.
>>516306695You can literally see the bullet enter and leave the front of his neck and bounce off his left shoulder if you slow it down enough
>>516306828it doesn't have anything to do with autism.
>>516306634I've never been hunting myself but I saw my uncle finish off a deer with a head shot with a 270 once and it left one hell of an exit wound
>>516306838i guess my own takeaway here is , why don’t we have an autopsy report or medical examiner report at bare minimum so we don’t have to keep guessing ? a ballistics report would be nice too ?why don’t we have any of this information and instead are at the mercy of assumptions and camera angles
>>516306517I think the Panama alien fungus is somehow involved. The timing is just too weird.
>>516306838The only problem I see with that is a bear has like 4 inches of skin an subcutaneous fat, so that hole in the body cavity would be larger than if it hit a human. So it's not an apples to apples comparison.
>>516306964I mean i wasn’t being literal …..
>>516306860If it's an old one it'll be from the 50s or later. They do rebarrel them but usually keep the stock. I have seen old ones get a synthetic stock though
>>516306939They still make them brand new https://www.mauser.com/en/MAUSER-18-Standard/80112498
>>516307139that was kind of my point. that 30-06 wouldn't cause a giant entry wound
>>516306939Century International Arms also rebarreled their Centurion 98 in 30-06, was the most popular caliber because that was surplus cheap Garand ammo the government had no use for after switching to 308.
>>516307291Any gunsmith can do it, they do it all the time
ok i understand what you are saying. You're talking about the frame where his face and neck flatten out during the moment of impact
>>516306839I’m gonna buy a pig head and shoot it just to settle this 2nd shooter/30-06 would blow his neck in half argument once and for all and post results Where can I buy a pig head though?
>>516305567How deep does the rabbit hole go?
>>516305241>Some of the best hunting ever is in NZ, dumbfuckwe're talking about gunlaws you retarded faggot.
>>516305274>doesn't even know kiwi gun law well enough to respond to my pointed questiongg
>>516307377found a video of a 30-06 blue tip (same ammo seen) shooting a deer in the neck at 200 yards. >goes straight through, leaves blood trail five feet long where the bullet flies out. >blood is uphill from shot and deer
>>516307355the bullet impacts (somewhere , but i don’t believe from the left side of his neck ) and his face swells and her makes like a “sperging out “ expression . thats what i meant , and i assume its a mix of cavitation/hydrostatic shock destroying tissue and what not , and the wound from the neck seems to occur after.
>>516307470You were talking about a legitimate reason for owning that type of rifle
>>516305567coincidentally he will be supplied a public defender as of today
>>516307377Please, please let me try and make this make sense for us all.Shooting a chunk of meat is a completely different scenario than shooting a person.Shooting just a head is a completely different scenario than an intact body.You can't compare the effects. They are different ballistic situations.On top of that, we would need to know the exact ammo the shooter used to even attempt a replication.Also take into account, Charlie Kirk was a fucking huge guy. 6 foot 5, kept himself in decent shape too.
>>516307377can you get a homeless from the street ?apples to apples needs human tissue
>>516307289I agree, but the true entrance wound on the skin would be slightly less that bullet diameter.
>>516307553>You were talking about a legitimate reason for owning that type of rifleNo I was specifically referencing NZ gun lawwhich you are ignorant of because you're a larping faggot.
>>516307560The one time someone is glad to see a jew walk in the room huh
>>516306466so a 30-06 curved/split apart in his neck and transferred the ENTIRETY of it's energy into the neck? >A standard 150-grain .30-06 load can produce around 2,800 to 3,000 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle.
>>516307526>blue tip (same ammo)There are something like 15 different .30-06 rounds sold with a blue tip. Ranging from tipped otm, tipped HP, and tipped "softpoints"Use. Your. Head.
Ummmm .... who stores and carries their rifle around in it's original Walmart packaging anyways?
>>516307632I was never asked why I want to own guns during my 90 min interview
>>516305321and this guy scored in the 99th percentile on national tests
>>516307470you asked what the lawful purpose was and i responded with a fact (hunting). now you are absolutely assblasted about it. you people are fucking insane.
>>516307350Not only that, but 922r, you have to replace a certain number of parts and a lot of countries serialize the barrel as the export control part, so they cut it up prior to bulk sales as a box of parts. That’s also how Springfield Arms got their start, reassembling a bunch of M14’s from the Philippines and shit.
>>516307654it’s crazy how split this board is on what the exit wound is supposed to look like. TOO BAD WE DON’T HAVE A MEDICAL EXAMINER REPORT OR AUTOPSY. you would think this would matter for a criminal trial for lining up evidence even if the cause of death is obvious
>>516307654A V max type bullet might although if it did all that energy dumping so soon would have exploded his neck
>>516307672how fucking thick do you think his neck is to absorb the entirety of a 30-06 round without an exit hole directly behind it?Feel the side of your fucking neck...do you feel bone there? Did the round magically travel up carotid artery?
>>516307747That kind of makes sense because book smart people are fucking retards
>>516307719uh huh>>516307752You're not him you're both retarded shill faggots Reminder shilling is a federal crime like drug trafficking.
>>516307847he got dun fucked up
>>516307768Oy vey, we better cremate the body. Sorry goy, no more detective work for you.
>>516307879>BELEIVE THE OFFICIAL STORY GOYyou fucking retards are so obvious
>>516307836that’s assuming the entry wound was his neck and not clavicle or upper chest etc , or hitting the other side of the neck, hitting spine deflecting out the other side and losing energy etc. i have no idea what i’m talking about but it feels good
>>516307768I can say ONE WOUND WITH A 30-06 IN THE FLESHY SIDE OF YOUR NECK IS 99% NOT POSSIBLE. >if the bullet was tumbling in air that could explain the size of the hole, but not the lack of transfer of energy.
>>516307542I'm going to picrel what I'm talking about and you can confirm whether it's the same thing.It definitely evokes tard strength and genetic deformity.it reminds me of the day of the shooting, I bought a box of .30-06 and the cashier was visibly autistic. he was like a thomas crooks looking guy, staring at the floor and speaking with incredible speed and intensity. Weird.What I'm curious about is how the shots were synchronized. Would hand signals really be enough, or did they have a computer relay detect the sound of the blank and trigger the kill shot?
>>516307654Guns are an enigma. You can't predict what will happen every time based on some video of one situation.I am far and away not a ballistics expert, but what I have read and seen from ballistics experts, the idea you should have is "we can only tell what happens after it happens and by investigating that single event, we can't make guesses based on circumstanstial evidence."
>>516307692that's an evidence box
>>516307753Lots of euro guns were in storage from trade ins, then the euro economies crashed and suddenly they realized they could sell the guns and take advantage of the favorable exchange rate. Heaps of shit like 6.5 swede and 7x57 was bought in
>>516301070Look pretty weird, not really convincing
>>516307914damn bros face puffed up from all that pressure . probably the force of 10 concussions at once
>>516307918hahaha
>>516307887>You're not him i already knew the answer because i have an IQ higher than 80. you never heard of red stag?
>>516307672I would almost bet that that ammunition was s&b blue txgr copper solid. The ogive profile doesn't match the barns tipped triple shocks the only other blue tip, besides fn 5.7 with 40gr vmax
>>516307610Better yet maybe we can get some war footage.That way I wouldnt have to murder a random homeless person for science
>>516308095That's actually a farm animal and that tourist probably paid over 100k for that
>>516307949original view and webm. going frame by frame His hair/earpiece look to be the first affected things before hole
>>516307949yes sir. that’s what i’m referencing. A PIGS BLOATED FACE , random death medal song i listened to in my teens and the title immediately popped in my head , and again it does seem occur prior to the neck wound , which makes me think it’s the exit wound that’s all.
>>516308106No way, copper rounds are way more expensive and everything else about that gun is cheap
>>516308133yes true , don’t put yourself in that position anon
The majority of people claiming "muh lack of blood splatter" have clearly never seen an animal or person shot IRL.It's not doom or some shitty holly wood movie. Getting shot even fatally doesn't result in a bathtub of blood going everywhere.>>516302315They're likely bought in at least in the 100s during the JFK era.People forget crazy people will cannibalize things like Guns and Watches to make very convincing fakes. Right down to the Caliber.
>>516307753922r only applies to non-sporting arms, but yeah different countries have different standards for what can be sold and some guns we get imported were just mashed together from spare parts armorers collected.
>>516306466Nogunz dont know that bullets do absolutely braindead retarded shit somtimes
>>516308205Lol no s&b is cheap as fuck.. Barnes on the other hand
>>516308106I originally thought it was a sellier and bellot as well, but it turns out that one picture of the round with writing on it is fake. If you measure the round with the centimeter scaler provided in that very pic you'll see it measures nearly 4.5 inches long...impossible as 30-06 can only be about 3.9 max.The feddy boys need to release the evidence. We all have very little, and what we do have is very low quality.
>>516306156And sometimes to the disappointment of your kids you shoot a pumpkin or watermelon with a 30-06 and it just sails right through. But those aren’t the shots that end up on YouTube, because as the kids say that’s lame…
>>516308332they aren’t even arguing. blood splatter though , they are arguing that his neck should of been blown off completely if he was shit by a 30-06 and not a camera mossad spy gun
>>516308332>have clearly never seen an animal or person shot IRL.>he said on 4chan
>>516308162i just chose a picture off google. i know it's expensive because a hunting club in my town just had a drawing for a $20,000 trip to NZ for a stag hunt, but it didn't include everything so nobody wanted it lol. Would have still had to pay like 10-20k more or something like that (i don't remember off the top of my head). i know it was a lot.
>>516308365Ok yeah resd that slightly wrong. The ammo was just what his boomer dad had on the shelf though. Can't really go wrong with a high powered rifle
>>516304509I hate that little faggot murdertroon
>>516308425so explosion or sailing right through, right?>>516308418
>>516308440That's obviously a world class deer too. Normal ones are just a few points. Its real hunting in the wild though. Guided tours are humiliating
>>516308425Pumpkin yes Watermelon no A pumpkin is hollow and a water melon is mostly water like humans are albeit no bones or muscles
>>516308195that thing seems longer and darker than his hair, and he's not wearing an earpiece that day.it whips like some kind of cable but I don't what it could be
>>516308522Psycho writing
>>516308426and then some are saying the neck wound is the entry wound not the exit wound , despite the fact that Kirk entire head becomes swollen and he makes an autism face before the neck wound , because the exit wound has to be 6 inches , but then no camera angle really shows a giant hole blowing out of his head or back
>>51630843820 posts.So desperate to shill you made 20 posts.You do know that doesn't make you right.Whatever champ stay retarded it clearly suits you. Your barely even worth insulting.
>>516307028because of jews
>>516308553whatever it is it definitely is a thing that moves before a neck hole appears. >some bake the next thread and lets just pretend it's old /k/
>>516304987>Mauser comes apart easily>noguns guy
>>516308545Pumpkins have pumpkin inside them you pleb
>>516308522Yes that pic....measure it with the cm ruler in the pic....12.4cm length...4.88 inches (funny number, hmm?). Impossible, it's fake.
>>516308598shutup kike
>>516301070Nigger
>>516308598and you're barely worth anything. You're bad at your job. Go be a faggot somewhere else
>>516308636There’s no fluid in it retard
>>516304987>You know that guns come apart pretty easy right?Mausers don't. And even if you grant that falsehood, it loses zero. >>>/gif/29469360
>>516308641my 30-06 API round in front of me is 3 & 3/8ths
>>516308418Fucking lol I had to pull out my calipers and measure nice catch
>>516308636if Kirk LIFTED heavier weights was this survivable ? lifting is cope maybe
>>516308775That's my bad I was just pulling quick numbers. When anon posted the pic I remembered what I counted for the picture
>>516308522did the FBI release that image or did a 4channer make it? i'm assuming the latter.
>>516308630I have a hard time confirming that, because his shirt pops up in a bizarre way and covers the wound location (whether it's there or not) at the same time the black thing moves
New bread>>516308933 >>516308933>>516308933
>>516302416If they can't pin it on anyone, than people will copy it and kill CEOs or the 1%.Easier to proof that you did it with Videos, to intimidate other people too.
>>516308634that stock would come off with 2 screws and FBI found a screwdriver with Tylers DNA on it.
>>516308522Different every time, so many factors go into it. Explodes completely, other times it blows a piece out the back, and sometimes it goes right through. Guntubers shoot hours of footage and keep the best, real life range day isn’t even like jewtube range day. Shot an apple with 556 that went straight through, shot another with 17hmr that vaporized in a splatter of apple parts.
>>516308775Mines 3.3316
>>516308641.....interdasting...
>>516303799you are correct, that faggot does not have a weapon
>>516303799Also why is no one questioning how he got access to the roof? Or did i miss a "couple" posts that asked the same question..
>>516308838How come nobody has thought of this before?
>>516309072so there would be an exit wound and a hole in the now red tent behind him, or a drastically different video than what we saw. >>516309108kekI ain't walking to get my fucking micrometer. the tape measure in my desk is good enough for most thing.
>>516309395Lolol I hear yea
>>516309037>that stock would come off with 2 screws and FBI found a screwdriver with Tylers DNA on it.wouldn't be zeroedwhy would he reassemble it
>>516305549>>516305698What the fuck are you ranting about tranny? I said its unusual, not impossible.
>>516301070>Can any /gunfags/ tell me if there’s anything “unique,” about this gun?its too long to fit in the bag he walked in and escaped withit was also wrapped in a towel when it was thrown in the wood but this picture is it neatly placed in a box on grass that is clearly from a yard/gardened area.aka its not the gun that the shooter used
>>516309891scope zero is independent of the stock
>>516304597>He was up there for like 20 minutes.not after he took the shot
