Are there any instances where Christianized societies reverted back to paganism?
>>516439110There was a death metal band who studied the bible so they could write better lyrics slandering it. In the end they converted and became Christians. Read the bible, memflag redditor.
>>516439110South Korea. About half the country was Christian at one point, now it dropped to around 20%, and now you're seeing some crazy shit like feminist shaman cults taking over the government and kpop and whatnot. They do fortune telling and other scammy voodoo shit.
>>516439404Havent seen a fpbp like this in a while. Absolutely nailed it.
>>516439588That's what happens when you get pagans. You get transexualism, you get niggers, you get Jews, you get all the unfun things associated with them as well. You get higher crime rates, you get voodoo nigger cults. etc.
>>516439110xtianity is usually the signal that a society is about to collapse. look at rome. that racemixing cuckoldry shit killed them.
>>516439404Praise Rabbi Yeshua! What's the band's name?
>>516439739>Praise Rabbi Yeshua!This but unironically
>>516439739>rabbiHe said the thing.
>>516439110
>>516439716Christ will redeem the niggers, trannies, and jews.
>>516439110Europe in 50 years
>>516439110Japs don't actually practice Christianity. Christianity in Japan is really just a bunch of rich families laundering money and abusing tax exemption.
>>516439855He's literally called that in the bible
>>516439110Is this image edited? The Japanese doesn't say it's a christian university
>>516439404And then all the band members clapped.
>>516439110Modern day Europe. We all see how that went
>>516439782>>516439855>A man is a Jew because he is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Romans 2:29You are true jews.
>>516439739Reverorum Ib Malachthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwldj5e9NaQ
>>516439110Japan treats christianity like mythogy, they plaster jesus shit on stuff because it's cool, like zeus.
>>516440155Worse than I thought it would be.
>>516440057I know.. Jesus spent lots of time around the Jews rebuking them... go figure.Like when he rebuked the penis circumcisers and told them they dont do what actually came from moses>>Yet, because Moses gave you circumcision (though actually it did not come from Moses, but from the patriarchs), you circumcise a boy on the Sabbath. Now if a boy can be circumcised on the Sabbath so that the law of Moses may not be broken, why are you angry with me for healing a man’s whole body on the Sabbath? Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly.
>>516440073The kanji is Tokyo Women's University but it is technically a "Christian school" but as I said in another post it's just for rich families to avoid taxes. That university is seen as the best one for women to get into.
>>516440316Are you literally saying jesus is wrong?
>>516440154Jesus rebuked the penis circumcisers telling them what they do doesnt come from mosesSee >>516440316
>>516440310well yeah death metal is assdoom metal is coolerhttps://youtu.be/BwzhOrAnJ-E?t=178
>>516440440Im running out of pepes here.
>>516440316>rebuking themHe was a hippy jew who was telling the orthodox jews to chillax, man. >>516440446And it's very important that we accurately follow the jewish laws of Moses and Abraham.
>>516439110>memeflag>asian girl picture>garbage spam thread you're an ugly brown virgin, your own mother vomits when she sees your face
>>516439588South Koreans now become communists just like in ussr. They pray for elites and company owners.
>>516440514That wasn't death metal. I'm a death metal fan. That was just noise and garbage.
>>516440316>>516440446Are you retarded or something?>>516440343Yeah, it's like the Assassin's Guild
>>516439110It is easier to kill me than to convert me, and even then, I'm still the strongest being in all of existence rival only by God. https://youtu.be/3V6qlW6fnBg?si=xXHqBGu03pVOx0cP
>>516440653Kill yourself newfag
>>516440639all that's wrong. you're a liar and the truth's not in you.>>516440707all death metal sounds like that unless they're going for symphonic or melodic subgenre
>>516440639>>516440806Sorry guys, no ones buying it. Jesus btfos richfags and liars, and went to the cross like a chad.
>>516439110American.American "Christianity" is a vulgar, pagan religion full of superstition
>>516439110I want to throat fuck that smart little gook
>>516440518here ya go frien
>>516439110Europe
>>516440902>all death metal sounds like thatabsolutely not
>Kill yourself newfag
>>516440908>went to the cross like a chadTo fulfill jewish prophecy. By the way, the whole story is made up. There never was an actual Rabbi Yeshua.
>>516441282>anonymity is badgo back to discord then, loonytroon
>>516440316Still a Rabbi, retard.What even you're trying to argue?
>>516441386every historian disagrees (even secular ones) with that conspiracy theory besides dick carrier
>>516440819Do weebs even realise how cringe they are
>>516441282This bot has spammed this image for YEARS>>516441386>To fulfill jewish prophecy.>reverts back to "jew" despite me showing how he rebuked penis snippers
USA is into child sacrifice like pagans
>>516441572Let's say he was a real person (obviously not magic). The story still puts him in the role of fulfilling Jewish prophecy. The whole religion is based on jewish law and mythology.
>>516440316He was literally circumcised himself
>>516439110Probably some old Soviet villages somewhere that you've never heard about.
>>516441616I am the void origin.I am the alpha and omega.I am the beginning and I am the end.I am that I am.
>>516441769I remember seeing a documentary from the 90s about the fall of Communist Russia, they went out in Siberia asking people what they thought about it and most of them had no idea that the Tsars weren't still in charge
>>516441749>Let's say he was a real person (obviously not magic)that's only "obvious" to people with a dogmatic precommitment to naturalism, and naturalism is retarded.>The story still puts him in the role of fulfilling Jewish prophecy>The whole religion is based on jewish law and mythology.and the point of your genetic fallacy here is...?
>>516441902
>>516441663Whatever bot spammed it, I saved it and I reposted it here. To my knowledge Rabbi Yeshua never condemned or rebuked circumcision.
>>516441749>ancient kikes and sandniggers were creating written languages and empiresyou are completely judaized
>>516439110Christianity is already paganism
>>516439884F in chat for bongbros.Sadly, this is best post. Though it looks like that's some kind of Hindu thing? I figured Islam is the state religion of the UK nowadays.
>>516439404>read the bible
>>516442000>naturalism is retardedallow me to explain,if both naturalism (the belief that there is no God) and evolution are true, then we have no good reason to trust our cognitive faculties.evolution selects for survival (our ability to fight feed flee and fuck) and not necessarily for truth. so if our minds evolved purely through natural processes, their reliability in producing true beliefs is suspect. but if we can't trust our minds, then we can't trust the belief in naturalism itself, making it self-defeating.
>>516442000>naturalism is retardedMagic is real!
>>516441759Why do you think he was so pissed with the bastards who do it?
>>516440343>the best one for women to get intoFor promoting ideals necessary for a civilization to prosper, like stay at home moms, compensation and job stability, and anticonsoomerism, right?Right?
>>516442394yes.that's why anything exists at all.either the natural was created by something beyond (super) itself, or it somehow existed prior to itself to create itself.that's the dilemma.you can either believe in magic, or believe in nonsense.
>>516439110Britain did because forigen pagans genocided the roman-british and forced them into the western and northern highlands as well as into Ireland.
>>516442352>evolution selects for survival and not necessarily for truthAnd if religion arose because it enabled survival through stronger social cohesion, would you still trust the cognitive faculties that cause you to believe it?
>>516442643There are other options. We live in an entropic universe. Time and cause and effect tend to go one direction, but there is nothing in the laws of physics that dictates that it must always be this way in every situation.
>>516442740if religion DID evolve because it enhanced survival, that doesn't automatically mean it's false.the argument i'd laid out isn't about WHAT beliefs evolution produces, it's about whether evolution gives us any reason to trust our beliefs at all.if naturalism is true, then evolution is blind to truth.so whether a belief is religious, scientific, or philosophical, we'd have no grounds to trust it, including belief in naturalism itself.that's the trap, if our minds are shaped only by survival rather than truth then every belief is suspect, naturalism saws off the branch it's sitting on.try again.
abrahamic religions exists precisely so that gentiles are uprooted and forced to become an undifferentiated blob following a specific version of judaism, it can only happen if the abrahamization isn't total
>>516439404I like the part where god is powerless against iron chariots.
>>516442902here you're appealing to exotic physics to dodge a metaphysical problem.entropy, time symmetry, quantum weirdness, none of that shit explains WHY there's something rather than nothing.even if cause and effect can bend or reverse in rare scenarios, you're still left with the same dilemma:did the natural order create itself from nothing?if so, that's incoherent, it assumes existence before existence.so we're back to square one, either something beyond nature caused nature (magic!) or nature popped into being uncased, which is metaphyical nonsense.physics can describe the how but can't escape the why.
Would you rather have White non-christian US or non-White christian US?
>>516443219>none of that shit explains WHY there's something rather than nothing.This. Distraction/Hand-waving is the oldest kike trick in the book.
>>516439110i think germany kinda did.. back in the days
>>516439110Christian University She stands there in traditional Japanese non Christian clothing.Probably even mixed fabrics.
>>516439110East Germany.
>>516444165Based actual example. East Germany is majority atheist and the rest are pagan among the nationalist scene. It may be the poorer part but Id take a trashy East German than a Western smug liberal
>>516439110Look at the hands - thats a male.
>>516444429>Based actual example. East GermanyBased, the birthplace of rammstein
>>516440908Whoa, you convinced me. Being Jewish and getting executed is so cool!>>516441663>how he rebuked penis snippersBut that's not what that quote is about? He's not saying they shouldn't cut baby dicks but arguing about what constitutes working on the Sabbath. They said him healing a man breaks the Sabbath and he responds saying that just as cutting baby dicks is valid to do on Sabbath so is divine healing because it is divine work
>>516439110Parts of Britain reverted after the Romans left and germanic pagans settled. There is evidence of Roman villas with Christian symbols.
>>516444879No, he was telling them that HE is Lord of the sabbath. Silly memeflag.
>>516439404Reading bible actually has the opposite effect.
>>516439404Reading the Bible is what made me hate Yahweh, Abraham, and eventually Semitic culture generally
>>516445227because it says homosexuality is an abomination?
>>516439110 West Africa
>>516443062Do you think Sumerians were some sort of negroid kikes? If you do then you are completely judaized
>>516439716You get India
>>516445124>>516445227Is this the part that upset you? You neednt fear.
>>516445227You didn't read shit, nigger
>>516445412Nah it is the part in the old testament that codifies slavery. It is insane to me that when I was young I never knew god was fine with slavery at some point and then changed his mind.
>>516445412For me, it was Numbers. What a slog.
>>516440446>Jesus rebuked the penis circumcisers telling them what they do doesnt come from moseswho cares, but that also doesn't make him any less of a jew from the near east
>>516445582can you explain why slavery is bad without borrowing from the Christian worldview?
>>516445582You know Jesus said woe to the rich, right?You want to oppose?
>>516445744Is that the "Chud begat Chudster, and he lived for 109 years, and then he died" book?
>>516445818It's wrong to own people. Of course, niggers aren't people, so that's fine.
>>516444559>>516444429Anything which frees man's heart from the spell of Judeo-Christianity isn't all bad. Communists, when socially conservative, aren't evil at all. An example in history: The main folly of the NSDAP was purging the left wing on the night of long knives. Don't fall for the same trick. The enemy is Semitism, not economic theories. Marx and Hitler had much in common.
>>516445818Your religion is morally bankrupt and your god thought slavery was fine at some point.
>>516439110Yes, when white people notices they need to stop craving for jewish cock
>>516446014>Christianity isn't all badIndeed
>>516440316Frogposter faggot, he is ONE OF THEM.Just because he wants to change his OWN PEOPLES traditions, does not make him one of us Europeans. Our people were already civilized to begin with.
>>516446044But you didnt respond to my quote of Jesus. curious
>>516445991>me: why is slavery (owning people) wrong?>you: because it's wrong.are you retarded?>>516446044>doesn't even try to answerantichristians are not sending their best, no sir.
>>516446226>noooo dont you see he was around people i dont like!!!!You think God is scared?
>>516446295You didn't answer you shithead. You changed the topic. Therefore you lost.>>516446229Your whole religion is completely invalidated because of the slavery issue therefore I don't care about your quotes.
>>516446295I don't want to be enslaved. Therefore I shouldn't enslave others.
>>516446390>Your whole religion is completely invalidatedRemember this verse
>>516446044Did you read about the Amalekites? They were worse than niggers
>>516446390>You didn't answer you shithead.answer what?the post i was responding to ( >>516445582 ) didn't have a question, i was the one who asked a question, and you dodged it like a scared little girl.
>>516441470It means teacher. Like the japanese can use sensei as a title to someone who isn't actually a teacher but very knowlageable on something like a master blacksmith. He wasn't a judaic priest that's why he was hated by the pharisee who were a cast of priest because he was an outsider sinking their business.
>>516446464>Don't enslave the people who are constantly attacking you and setting babies on fire for their demon god >That is le bad
>>516445011> Parts of Britain reverted after the Romans left and germanic pagans settled. There is evidence of Roman villas with Christian symbols.Wasn’t it an invasion where they forced their religion on the indigenous Romano British inhabitants but ironically ended up to converting to Christianity though
>>516445892Yeah, I attempted to read the NRSV cover to cover, but lost interest somewhere around the the start of the New Testament.There's a few times where prophets claim the infallibility of God, but then the scripture goes on to throw out all of God's old rules, so credibility went out the window.The Old Testament surprised me with how specific it was. A quarter of it can be described as weights and measures. From Numbers to sacrifices and other rules, it's not remotely as open to interpretation as the uninitiated are led t believe.Anyway, sucks for this thread, because the original question is more interesting than fedoras vs christcucks.
>>516446441so you're saying it's not actually wrong, you're just saying you personally wouldn't like it and operate on that sort of principle of reciprocity where you always do unto others as you would have them do unto you?
>>516446681Rome invaded before Rome was Christian. Ironically, they started just a couple of decades after the crucixion of Jesus
>>516446044Jesus never owned a slave
>>516439110>1pbtidNW Europe's hero Odin is literally just a telephone-game distortion of Christianity.
>>516446635Jesus saves. Anyone who pretends he is a force of evil is against him, no better than an executioner. Remind them of matthew 18:6. It is the word of God.
>>516446894lol
>>516446895>1pbtidAlso this, those who hide hate the word of God.
>>516446737Yeah. That's how its been all along.
>>516446945What?
>>516446928>Jesus saves. Anyone who pretends he is a force of evil is against himJesus forgives evil.>Remind them of matthew 18:6Liberum examen is an heresy.You protestant pagan filth will burn in hell.
>>516446894Yeah, he was poor.
>>516446928Not worshipping your Jew. Sorry, I'm just not letting immigrants and kikes into my country.
>>516439110wherever there are no jews (christians) tormenting and threatening with eternal hell and execution for not believing in the god of pedos and usurers from the middle east, people will 100% revert back to their old ways. christianity is a plague that few people believe in. it's only compulsion that caused the golem mind virus to spread
>>516447479Matthew 18:6 is spoken by Jesus.. if the words of Jesus are heresy to your ears you might be in trouble. Pray for forgiveness.
>>516444559Rammstein is a left wing antifa group that played the part of German pride group to subvert German culture.They hate Germany and Germans, they explicitly choose a black women to play Germanica to spite Germans and German history.
>>516447942also reading the bible is another sure way to revert back to old ways. I personally learned to despise christianity by reading the entire book. the overwhelming majority of christians never read a single page. make of that what you will
>>516439110My favourite pagan tradition is converting to Christianity. It’s always hilarious when some random European, American, or Mestizo declares themselves "Pagan" and starts worshipping Odin, Jupiter, or Quetzalcoatl or something. Pathetic larping, and the suggestion that anyone could know how pagans worshipped based on myths alone is icing on the cake. Monotheism has proven itself to be vastly more practical and spiritually meaningful than a bunch of fat, hairy Greek and Roman fags arguing about which Gods to worship and which domain is whose.
>>516447044>That's how its been all along.complete and absolute nonsense.let's pretend it's true though.if morality is just "i don't like it, so i won't do it," then it's not actually wrong to enslave others, it's just inconvenient or distateful to you.but what happens when someone doesn't share your preferences?if a tyrant enjoys enslaving people, your framework gives you no grounds to say they're wrong, only that you wouldn't do it.without an objective moral standard, "wrong" becomes meaningless, and that's why your ethic, while emotionally appealing, collapses under scrutiny.
>>516448302Liberum examen is an heresy.You godless protestant scum will burn in Hell.
>>516448528You are not fearsome. Pray.
>>516448431>the overwhelming majority of christians never read a single pageOf course, reading the bible was forbidden until 1962.
>>516448438>based on mythsAmerican education moment.Read the greeks, you fat, uneducated, angry mutt.
>>516448623You are afraid...You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell, and you know it.
>>516449050>You are afraid...Pray.
>>516449113You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516449208You are not fearsome. Pray to God.
>>516449295You are afraid. You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell, and you know it.
>>516448438>t. Ach-shieet the JeetShut up faggot, most Christians don't even understand their own religion and are mindless zombies who believe what their parents told them to believe. Real faith needs no arguments in defense of it.
>>516439110America>65 million babies sacrificed to moloch since roe v wade>countless "revisions", "re-translations" and watering down of the Bible>worship of the star of Remphan>no mention of Jesus in the government
>>516449381>Judge not, that ye be not judgedPray to God for mercy and forgiveness. I beseech thee.
>>516449423Because they thought it was worthless to embrace the true knowledge of God, God gave them over to a worthless mindset.
>>516443219>none of that shit explains WHY there's something rather than nothingBecause there is. Things exist because they're there>either something beyond nature caused nature (magic!) or nature popped into being uncasedOr, the truth, reality simply is. Which is the same as the "unmoved mover" except without the ridiculous unnecessary "unmoved mover". Reality itself is the "unmoved mover", motion or causes as presented in this theological "argument" don't actually exist.>>516445039No, that's a different quote. So you not read what you paste in?>if a boy can be circumcised on the Sabbath so that the law of Moses may not be broken, why are you angry with me for healing a man’s whole body on the Sabbath?This is an argument about what breaks Sabbath, that his healing doesn't break Sabbath anymore than cutting a baby's dick does
>>516449615He told them that they do not judge correctly. I would not suggest listening to the unrighteous, rather the Lord.
>>516449565>Pagans will NOT burn in Hell. PAGANS WILL GO TO HEAVEN! Believe me! PLEASE!!!?No.You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell, and you know it.
>>516449938Read Luke 6>A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
>>516449875>more confused pagan gibberishYou are afraid. You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516450031>Read Luke 6No. Liberum examen is an heresy.You godless protestant pagans will burn in Hell.
>>516450097Do not snip my penis any further, demon. It has already be stolen a tip unwillingly.Pray to God.
>>516450193You are not fearsome. Pray.
>>516447750Great argument anon
>>516439110>Are there any instances where Christianized societies reverted back to paganism?No. Christianity is popular because it's true and righteous,. As you judge a tree by it's fruit, you should judge a moral framework by it's results. Christianity = Western civilizationJudaism = war, degeneracy, and child rapeIslam = war and child rapeHindu = street shitting and rapeBuddhist = peaceful warrior monksAtheism = trannies and faggotsCommunism = starvation
>>516450250>more confused and obscene protestant pagan gibberishYou are afraid...
>>516439110not willingly
>>516446635>we HAD to genocide them!>trust us, they were demon worshippers!
>>516450350You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell, and you know it.
>>516450619>>516450687>Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
>>516450446>Christianity = Western civilizationHow did Western Civilization exist before Christianity?
>>516449615so you're saying "reality just is," no cause, no explanation, no grounding.you've replaced the "unmoved mover" with "unexplained existence"but calling reality the "unmoved mover" without any explanatory power doesn't solve the problem.if motion and causality don't exist, then science collapses.if they do exist, then something must have initiated them.either way, your position is metaphysical nihilism pretending to be insight.
>>516439110Umm Europe? Yeh Europe.
>>516439722Paganism is stupid and their gods are weak and are no better than humans. Why settle for an inferior product?
>>516450686They got liberal and refused to genocide them. That's why you're still around today cursing us, negroid
If you want to understand paganism, first you have to understand Sat-Chit-Ananda. Rang-Shin, Ngo-Bo, Thug-Rje. Ever heard of the Hopi Indians? They are partially the genetic descendants of the Anasazi and the spiritual descendants of them. The Anasazi were like many storied tribes in the Americas, White Giants whos pottery is covered in swastikas, clown-like figures and even what the Germans called Iron Crosses. The Kachinas in the Hopi religion are dolls that represent different forces within the ultimate divine who's interconnected energy is represented by Spider Grandmothers web. The shamans of the tribe dress up as the Kachinas to summon rain with dances and beats at certain vibrational frequencies (yes, that is their ancient doctrine, it isn't new age) so that through the power of the shamans mind, the vibrations, and the minds of all those who (((believe))) in the kachina, the shaman will make things happen. If you understand the way of the Hopi, you can understand the way all ancient paganism worked.
>>516450815>Nobody can tell the difference between evil and good, between a christian and a pagan, it's impossible, trust me, please!?You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.And you know it.
>>516439110>Christianized
>>516451094You mutts are mutts, lol.
>>516451111Christians believe that POCs and mutts have a soul.
>>516451167No one compares to Christ. Do not be deceived.
>>516451167>You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.stop larpingthat's not what roman catholicism teacheshttp://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/838.htmhttps://www.vatican.va/content/catechism/en/part_one/section_two/chapter_three/article_12/iv_hell.html
Modern-day paganism under the guise of "MUH ANCESTERS !! 1!!" is another anti-White jewish trick, and that's the end of it.
>>516451493You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell, and you know it.You are afraid...
>>516451456And you want to murder white people, negroid
>>516451664Pray.
>>516451605>Liberum examen never was an heresy before 1962! Catholics never killd protestants in France! Those wars never happened! Trust me!American education moment.
>>516446528He was a Jew rabbi from any definition of the word
>>516451741>more "liberum examen" heretical gibberishYou protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516439110Paganism's badM'kay?
>>516451829fascinating hallucination of what i said.here's the bottom line though, the catholic and orthodox church states that they know where the Church is, but can't say with certainty where the Church isn't, and neither sect explicitly states anyone is in hell or going to hell with certainty.
>>516448473I have all the grounds I need to call it wrong.
>>516451986Pray>23 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.>2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.>3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.>4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.>5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.>6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.
Since ancient times, death and resurrection has been part of a shamans initiation. The Hopi symbolize this with their descent into the kiva (underground room with an entrance to the underworld, further ancient tunnel systems) where they will ritualistically die and then climb back out reborn after the initiation. This same concept can be found in Tengrism, the ancient religion of the steppe which closely resembles the PIE religion. The Tengrist shamans climb the tree of life, the Hopi climb the cornstalk of life. This is where the Kabbalistic tree of life comes from.
>>516452266>the catholic and orthodox churchBoth do "liberum examen" now, both are protestant pagan scum.
>>516439110If they did turn back to Paganism, they were never serious in following Jesus.
>>516439404Wtf I'm a heckin' christian now! Praise jesus!
>>516452351>more godless protestant pagan gibberish.You are afraid.You'll burn in Hell, and you know it.
I don’t know how so many of you can’t see that your idealized paganism is fucking retarded.
>>516452544Here christians illustrate why CN will never happen.
>>516452343you feel you have grounds, but feelings aren't foundations.if your moral standard is built on personal preference or social consensus, then it's not objective (in an ontological sense, as in "real")you can call slavery wrong, but without a transcendent moral anchor that's just your opinion.if morality is just a product of evolution, culture, or emotion, then it shifts with time and power.which means slavery isn't always wrong, it's just wrong for you.
>>516439110Yes, it's been happening in Iceland since the 1980s. They were also the last to christianize in europe.
>>516452544Do not hate God, pray to God.
>>516452757And?
>>516452757>a transcendent moral anchorJesus forgives evil.
>>516452960and that's the collapse of your entire moral framework.you claim to have "grounds" to call slavery wrong, but when pressed, those grounds turn out to be personal taste, not truth.if that's all you've got, then your outrage is just noise, not reason.
In Tengrism, evil is embodied by Erlik, the Yellow God of the Hand Of Death. Erlik comes from Erra, the Akkadian underworld God who is equated with Nergal, the Sumerians underworld God. Erlik was cast down from heaven after he rebelled against Ulgen. Erlik is not considered to be an actual being, he is the embodiment of evil and death itself thats force rules over negative spirits. Erlik demands sacrifices of animals and humans, and the more one kills in Erliks name, the higher the rank they get in the underworld. Despite this, Erlik is seen as a necessary part of the cosmos, and is the patron deity of the black shamans.
>>516453068Such is what evil preaches. Shall not.
>>516453068so in your mind, protestants are bad, catholics are bad, orthodox are bad, Jesus is amoralwhat are you supposed to be larping as exactly?
>>516453084No, there's reason. I don't want to be a slave, so I won't enslave others.
>>516452849You protestant pagan filth hate God. You'll burn in Hell.
>>516453203The person is afflicted, and must pray.
>>516442261Based.
>>516439404The guys who did music for Killing flood 2?
What is "paganism"?
>>516453195You are afraid...You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell, and you know it.
>>516446390Slavery is not wrong so the religion is not invalidated. God has never been wrong about anything, only retarded people can be wrong.
>>516439110the United States
>>516453203>more confused gibberishAmerimutt moment.You are so, so fat. You mutt.
>>516453203>Jesus don't forgive evil! Sins can't be forgiven!?American education...
Sadly Many Vikangz converted to Christianity partly to improve their access to trade with Christian Europe. Not everyone were converted by the sword or by missionaries.
>>516453288>>516453401Make no mistake, God wants us to have faith. Ye do the will of another. Pray.
>>516453401The point I'm trying to get across to you is not only the truth of God, Sat-Chit-Ananda, it's that none of the shit you're worried about matters. Protestant, Catholic, Buddhist, even a jungle shaman who's never seen someone from outside the tribe can attain eternal life if they attain Rigpa, and if not, their karma will take them where they've acquired the merit to go, and I promise you that is the truth.
>>516453288okay try to be a little less brown svp monsieur
>>516453463Protestant pagan scum fleeing slaughter in Europe created the US.
>>516453463>Everyone hugs trees and fucks trannies just like my one eyed demigod Supreme cringe. Glad the majority don’t agree
>>516453686You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.And you know it very well.
>>516453203he's french, he worships black penis
>>516439404fpbp
>>516453780>Protestant paganLmao even. The mind of a leftist
>>516453084never understood this philosowank line'you need a belief system or you can't use ethics'like wat, ethics is a technology built on trial and error towards a desired outcomeand metaphysical = falsethey were never relatedor the false dichotomy of meaning vs meaninglessness, neither exists
>>516453264right, that's your preference.but you're using the word "reason" incorrectly.a reason would be WHY your preference should bind someone who has the opposite preference.you've given me your motivation, but you haven't given a rational justification that would apply to the tyrant who does want to enslave others.say i'm a powerful slaver who doesn't operate on your principle of reciprocity.i enjoy power over others, i have no empathy for them.what do you say to me? "you shouldn't do that because... i wouldn't like it"?that's not a reason for me to stop. it's just a description of your feelings. your system provides no actual argument against me, only the fact that you will resist me.
>>516453741>more angry amerimutt gibberishNothing will ever unmutt you, mutt.
>>516439110yes, what happened to israel and judah is described in 1 and 2 Kings and also Jeremiah. israel went pagan and judah went gay and sort of came back for 50 years, subsequently judea rejected Jesus Christ as described in Mt Mk Lk Jn Acts Rom Heb. in addition, after the 10th century much of europe started increasingly worshiping the pope and Jesus' mom, the netherlands went puritan and england briefly went puritan but Christianity was restored there by king james who got the Bible translated. because the first complete mass produced Bible was in english, God made english the most popular language on earth
>>516453771Christians belive that POCs and mutts have a soul.
>>516453863My faith in God shall not be shaken by the likes of you. Do not be deceived, I have been told worse things.
>>516439110>Are there any instances where Christianized societies reverted back to paganism?Yes, natsoc germany 1933-1945.
>>516443219what can be an interesting questionhow is a useful questionwhy is is decorative
>>516453780French Revolutionaries introduced backstabbing low trust society to the West
>>516439404I used to listen to shitty nu metal. The Devil Wear's Prada originally formed as a Christian oriented metal band. They abandoned that and their music has been really shitty ever since. It wasn't the best thing back then, but it wasn't as bad as it is now.
>>516439110>Are there any instances where Christianized societies reverted back to paganism?Half of europe in 1517
>>516453878Amerimutt's law is real.
>>516439404the bible is a shitty book
>>516454050You are afraid.You godless protestant pagan scum will burn in Hell.
>>516440639>He was a hippy jew who was telling the orthodox jews to chillax, man.>And it's very important that we accurately follow the jewish laws of Moses and Abrahamso which is it
>>516454068That's weird, I don't remember WW2 Germany being pic related.
>>516454181french worshiping black penis is real. you love getting gaped by mandingos. most french speakers in the world are niggers, based!
>>516454282Christ saves mens lives. He might yours.
>>516453903okay, lets accept your premise.ethics is a technology for a desired outcome, that's a coherent view.but it immediately raises the most important question: whose desired outcome?the technology of the spear was desired by the mammoth hunter, not the mammoth.the technology of the whip was desired by the slaver, not the slave.if ethics is just a tool, then you have no grounds to say the slaver's technology is wrong, only that it's a different technology for a different desired outcome (his wealth/power vs general well-being). you're not making a moral argument against him, you're just stating a preference for a different societal blueprint.your framework can't decalre slavery "wrong," only "inefficient for our preferred goals," which is a massive concession.
>>516453959My guy, I'm telling you that for your own good. The trick of religions is they have you looking outside for the ultimate God, and the Aryans knew he was within and they spread that all over the world.
>>516454116>French catholics where in fact revolutionariesAmerican education moment.
>>516439110All of Scandinavia?
>>516454373Jesus said,>Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
>>516454385HERETIC*slaughters his fellow frenchoid*Since evolved into gangstalking which euromutts brought here
>>516454320>more amerimutt obscene fantasies about blacksThe amerimutt meme keeps being so, so real.
>>516454310>That's weird, I don't remember WW2 Germany being pic related.That is because you are a deracinated degenerate amerimutt. The end goal of NSDAP was to exterminate christiantiy from Germany. Their official iconography was full of pagan symbols too.
>>516453933and that's why we've had slavery problems throughout history despite very few people being up for itbecause there is no objective standard, there are individuals making it up, most of them have a sense of unfairness some don't the rest of morality is learned
>>516454347You protestant pagan filth rejected Christ, that's why you'll burn in Hell.
>>516439110When we decided to get rid of Catholicism in Europe we didnt revert back to paganism even though we had every opportunity to do so. Not a single country did it. No, instead we all converted to an even MORE Biblical version of Christianity. nobody in europe ever gave a fuck about paganism desu. even if by some odd chance we did offically convert to "paganism" in the future we would quickly revert back to Christianity in a generation or two
>>516454373>more amerimutt gibberishdidnt read lol
>>516454667Do you now accept him?
>>516454563>flagOkay Mohmmad goldberg.
>>516454489https://youtu.be/k6NNVqKequ4?si=-0wqkCOiTfj5MrsYIndeed.
>>516442261What's the part where he tells the israelis to kill all the men and women and boys and take the girls for sex slaves?
>>516454797You are afraid...You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516454563I could post all the nazis quotes of their love of christ, including hitler and goebbels, but they are of no use compared to the words of Jesus.
>>516454613so ultimately we agree, under naturalism, nothing is inherently right or wrong (like slavery, bestiality or rape), just things we like or dislike.
>>516440155That's black metal retard
>>516444144Nothing wrong with wearing traditional clothes and being Christian.
>>516453369anything that's not the jew religion
>>516454881You shall not shake me of my faith. You are not fearsome. You are afflicted, angry at God in vain.
>>516455038yeah that's how the real world ultimately works
>>516455176You are afraid...You godless protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell, and you know it.
>>516455160Do you love your bank account? The one with the fake numbers in it which enslaves men? It sounds like you do. Have faith in God.
>>516454372that's what 'wrong' is in a human contextmeat ain't neatwhat grounding is required beyond an activation of the sense of unfairness and the knowledge of how the various forms of slave system fails harder and faster than the later modelsmy framework can declare anything wrong what's got a negative outcome'grounding' is for thought experiments and other immaterial nonsenseright and wrong aren't some metaphysical universal things just floating out there somewhereright and wrong are arbitrary categories used to build ethical/moral frameworksthey don't 'just exist' someone had to come up with build and test that shit you ungrateful sky watching shit, humans did work to build this up
>>516455367You are less fearsome than a little mouse.
>>516455160pull that fucking kike dick outta your fuckin mouth you fucking zionist cocksucking faggot
>>516455342so given that, could you and i agree that someone with your view on moral ontology would be silly to say "the Bible is bad because it condones xyz?"
>>516445284Because Yahweh ordains jews raping non-jewish children in Numbers
>>516455402>>516455468You are afraid, so afraid...You godless protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell, and you know it.
>>516455546if it condones something i think is retarded, it's bad. simple as.
>>516455546Reading the bible is forbidden, only protestant pagan scum do it.Liberum examen is an heresy.
>>516455648You love your bank account too dont you? Have faith in God.
>>516439404fippy bippy
>>516455038kind of missing the point and extrapolating a tad beyond it but sure, take into account the human sense of unfairness and group dynamics applied to 'things we like or dislike' and you are close enough
>>516455458this is circular. you're saying 'slavery is wrong because it has a negative outcome.' but the only way you can define 'negative outcome' is by already assuming a moral framework where well-being is 'good' and suffering is 'bad.'you're trying to build a ladder without a wall to lean it on. the concept of a 'negative outcome' is itself a moral judgment. you haven't escaped the need for a foundational 'ought'; you've just hidden it inside the phrase 'negative outcome'and negative for who? for the slaver, slavery has a very positive outcome (wealth, power). for the slave, it's negative.
>>516455680fuckin low iq golem
>>516455762You keep rejecting Christ.You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516439110No the problem is that most pagan myths are lost to time, and furthermore a lot of it was sublimated into Christianity. The core of the proto-Indo European faiths was that there was a Sky father instead of a Sky mother, and that it permitted expansion. You can see how this was actually passed down to all 3 Abrahamic religions. You can debate the core philosophies but in reality the religions change alongside the people. Judaism was once for the meek, now it reinforces Zionism. Islam had a golden age, now it justifies the rules of their countries. Christianity went from a street hippy religion in Rome, to Rome using it as a state religion, to a dark ages, to a golden era during the renaissance and colonization, and now it’s used by various powers, be it liberalism, evangelicals being used by Zionists, so on. As for what comes next, who knows
>>516455342what a fucking retard did you fuckin swallow you bitch ass fag
>>516455818All morality breaks down into some set of axioms at some point that you just have to accept. There's no way to avoid it.
>>516455875All those fake numbers you rely on instead of God, while you condemn and spit. Have faith in God.
>>516455972>the greeks and the romans are lost to time, they left nothingAmerican education moment.
>>516456088Jesus forgives evil.
>>516439110Well, historically, once Christianity took root in Europe, full reversions were rare. But there were moments after Rome’s collapse, for instance. Some regions in Britain and the continent slipped back into older beliefs until missionaries reestablished the Church.
>>516456099>more "liberum examen" heresyYou godless protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.And you know it.
>>516456237Do not be deceived. God is not mocked.
>>516455972https://youtu.be/m7Yb1vyDXnc?si=mDfZbbuRGK_21N_hThe closest religion to the ancient PIE beliefs is Tengrism. If you apply the Rig-Veda to Tengrism you can see it's all in order. >The tree of life
>>516456412Less fearsome than a stuffed rabbit.
>>516439668>>516439404Christ golems are pathetic
>>516439716All of those things are in the churches
>>516456917>Judge not that ye be not judged.
>>516455648>>516455762Adam Green is right about christkikes.In the absence of an outside enemy, you will attack each other. JUST AS INTENDED. This anti-White religion has to go
>>516456858>Sins can't be forgiven!You keep rejecting Christ.You godless protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516456163Yeah but do you expect Nordics to hail Jupiter? That’s the rabbit hole you tend to go down with paganism
>>516451094Our gods should be closer to us
>>516456914You are afraid...You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516457055Makes more sense than hailing Yahweh
>>516451094Your "god" is a literal jewish rabbi who died. You are worshiping a human. Romans considered you atheists for good reason.
>>516457025Nothing will ever unmutt you, mutt.Too late.
>>516457025>>516457107Jesus opposes evil, who are you?
>>516455818a terrible analogy cos the ladder tips over without a walla moral system works just fine without the meaning and grounding wankeryand no i don't provide a wall for it to lean on, the ruleset stands on it's own or it gets thrown out for a new onethe closest actual objective morality is the sense of unfairness and that is a very basic surface level thingoften mistaken for a sense of right and wrong but it isn't, it trips when you detect two perceived equals receiving unequal treatmentit's not anymore complex than that the entire rest of morality and ethics are constructedarbitrary shit layered on top of that basic sensebut for some reason the fact that it's arbitrary makes it not work? there is no grounding, it's not circular because it doesn't justify itself eitherit works or it doesn't, some work better than others>what is bad, why does anythingsee this empty shit right here is why i don't engage with philosophy
>>516439110no because christ is king
>>516457147>>516457222Pray.
>>516457003>No one can tell the difference between good and evil, its impossible!You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516457138You will then get people saying the Roman Empire enslaved Germanics and that it’s disrespecting their ancestors to worship Roman Gods. It’s a mess, not fully defending Christianity here though I’m just saying the origin point is still further than just Greco-Roman era, it would go all the way back to like, the Yamnaya
>>516457317I wont follow you, you serve yourself. Pray.
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>>516457055>That’s the rabbit hole youAmerican education moment.I bet you reject Euclid's Elements for the same reason...
>>516456088you are 100% correct and this is a smart point.all systems, whether mathematical, scientific, or ethical are built on foundational axioms that cannot be proven from within the system. you have to start somewhere.the debate then isn't about having axioms, it's about which axioms are true and which lead to a coherent and livable system. let's compare:the popular atheist/naturalist axiom:>human well being is the highest goodthe problems with this are:>it's groundless (why is well-being "good?" it just is.)>it's subjective (whose well-being? the well-being of the strong often conflicts with the well-beiong of the weak. the axiom provides no way to resolve this conflict except through power. it can't explan why we ought to prioritize the well-being of the slave over the well-being of the slaver.)>it's fragile (if well-being is the highest good, then anything that increases it could be justified. this could potentially lead to justifying a small amount of slavery if it created immense well-being for a majority. most people's moral intuition recoils at this, suggesting the axiom is flawed)then we have the Christian axiom>God's nature is the standard of goodwhich is>objective: (good is defined by a real, unchanging standard outside of ourselves, not a matter of opinion ontologically)>it explains human value (it grounds human rights and dignity in something immutable [being made in the image of God] rather than in the shifting sands of collective opinion)>it condemns evil absolutely (it provides a firm foundation to say the slaver is objectively wrong regardless of his culture, preferences, or the economic benefits he gains. his actions violate a real standard>it explains our intuition (Romans 2:15)
>>516457244>Sins can't be forgiven! Ever!You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516457304You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516457646You said evil. I told you to not be deceived.
>>516457605Where you are wrong is that relying on a manmade religion as your moral standard is just as subjective and prone to all the exact same flaws you attributed to the naturalist axiom. Why is it good just becomes "well god said so in this desert book". It's just as fragile and arbitrary.
>>516457388You protestant pagan filth read the bible, picking what suits you, creating your own personal religion, your own personal god...You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516457846Pray to God.
>>516457791>more "liberum egamen" pagan gibberishYou keep rejecting Christ.You godless protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516457245you keep missing the point. i'm not saying your arbitrary system can't function. i'm saying it can't condemn.you say a system "works." the slave system worked brilliantly for the slavers. so on what grounds do you, from your system, tell them they are wrong? you can't. you can only say "my tribe's arbitrary preferences are different, and we're going to stop you."you've reduced morality to power. that's the consequence of your "no wall" approach. your ladder isn't standing on its own, it's collapsed on the ground. you're not building ethics, you're describing a power struggle and calling the winner "right."the 'empty shit' of philosophy is asking why your preference should matter to anyone else. your answer of "it just does" is just a confession that you have no answer.
>>516458018You are less fearsome than a chirping cricket.
>>516457919You godless protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell, and you know it.
>>516453133Erlik is Yama. Yama is who's beaten through Christhood, it means you overcome death and escape Samsara.
>>516457823i would agree if i thought Christianity was a "manmade religion"thread's autosaging so i can't take you to school on this before it 404srepent, gaytheists
>>516458089You are so, so afraid...You godless protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516457605the issue with that one being that almost all versions of the abrahamic god are on record committing evil acts, the books just change the definition of evil so the god can do evil without being called evillike those danger hairs trying to change the definition of racism so they can act racist without being called racist
>>516458093>>516458161Pray.>>516458105No one compares to Christ.
>>516458129>if i thought Christianity wasProtestant "personal god" moment.You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516458184Jesus forgives evil.
>>516458213Christ is Thug-Rje. Jesus was a messenger of it. Read the gospel of Thomas, Mary, and so on and look for the encoded messages in the Bible. The true Trinity is Sat-Chit-Ananda. Christ is Ananda.
>>516458184>the issue with that one being that almost all versions of the abrahamic god are on record committing evil acts,our entire discussion was you pointing out that you had no means to call anything evil, and you agreed, didn't you? >>516455782
>>516458213>No one can tell the difference between good an evil! It's all the same!You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516458314This man seeks to condemn the whole world! Woe to those who trust him.Have faith in God.
>>516458129There's several obvious problems here. It's impossible to prove that Christianity is divinely inspired in anyway so it becomes a "just trust me bro" moment. Also, the morality of Christian nations greatly morphed throughout the years so we can see that it does not provide a firm, consisten moral framework. Directly refuting your assertion that it is, in practice, "something immutable [being made in the image of God] rather than in the shifting sands of collective opinion".
>>516458420>Read the gospel of ThomasLiberum examen is an heresy you protestant pagan filth.
>>516458420>Read the gospel of ThomasFrom 1945? The bible is the word.>>516458449>>516458517Man, you are not fearsome.
>>516458510>the morality of Christian nations greatly morphed throughout the years so we can see that it does not provide a firm, consisten moral framework. conflating epistemology and ontology
>>516458517I couldn't care less about the authority of the church. It's about truth, if the structure isn't built on truth, it's worthless. It's like building the foundation of a house with cardboard.
>>516458467>The whole world is pagan! The whole world rejects Christ!You godless protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516458598Liberum examen is an heresy.You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell, and you know it.
>>516458682You are less fearsome even than a dust mite on my sock. I shake you off. Pray to God.
>>516458634If nobody actually follows the ontology you insist actually exists, than what use is it? The whole example was about "which axioms are true and which lead to a coherent and livable system". Yours doesn't. People take the Christian axiom and then make up their own morality. Again, just demonstrating that it is completely fragile and arbitrary.
>>516458598Found in 1945. Its ancient, if we disregarded all discoveries because of when they were found we would learn nothing. However, other texts aren't so recent if that is your concern.
>>516458835The bible is the word
>>516458833>If nobody actually follows the ontology you insist actually exists, than what use is it?i don't care.same if a man really really really looks like a woman, he's still a man.
>>516458026>the slave system worked brilliantly for the slavers.aye that'll be why every slave system in history fell apartempty questions get empty answers, that's the entire field of philosophy definedif all you ask are vague 'whys' obviously your not gonna get anything out of ityou have a specific question then shootyou are almost there in that you are rightthere are no answers for these questions, because they are broken questionsi can say slavery is wrong on moral ethical political and practical groundsyou are right i can't say it's 'wrong' the way you are talking because you seem to be looking for an actual real thing, but you ask about social shit....do you see where you wen't wrongprobly notthere is no 'SHOULD'that shit does not existthere is the situation at hand, the opinions of all concerned, and a big stack of past cases built into narratively coherent cause effect models
>>516458899So it's useless then. Cool.
>>516458674>I couldn't care less about the authority of the churchAmerican education moment.The Catholic chuch embraced protestantism in 1962, you fat, uneducated, angry pagan mutt.
>>516458967Pray
>>516458784You are so fraid...You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516458879According to those who twisted it. Regardless, the point can be confirmed in the traditions of the Aryans. You've never heard of the Anasazi?
>>516439404What a bunch of fucking tools. I read the Bible and I disliked Christianity even more afterwards than I did to begin with.
>>516459055Pray to God for forgiveness.
>>516458446sort ofi'm pointing out the concept of moral grounding itself is a bullshit taken from philosophy that has nothing to do with morality or the application thereof
>>516458879>The bible is the wordLiberum examen is an heresy.You godless protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516459129Pray
>>516458967Hahaha, it seems you're the one that's angry. Again, I don't care. I care about the overall truth, not these inner-church concerns.
>>516458993You keep rejecting Christ.You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516459221Pray to God for mercy.
>>516459079You are afraid.You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516439404thats called cryptochristianityits the equivalent of former kkk antisemite glowniggers going on adl speaking tours acting like they it was possible for them to simply unlearn jews suck baby penis and all the terrible shit theyve done. doesnt happen. will never happen.
>>516459294Pray
>>516459160>Pagans rejecting Christ will NOT burn in Hell, believe me!?You protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell, and you know it.
