Inb4 brown, I can prove i'm whiteLets have an honest intellectual discussion about this man, and how its possible that he predicted the current state of the world. He predicted that jews will run the world and will be the final force of darkness against which the muslims will have a final, LOTR-esque battle.He said:"The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews."If we look at the state of the world today and the immense power jews have over it, hows it possible that he predicted it? Honestly?Islam as a system of pure traditionalism is the exact antithesis of jewish tyranny, faggotry, feminism, liberalism, marxist slave morality, and nigger worship. We are clearly moving towards this final war.Isn't it obvious at this point? Even the most conservative Christians of my country, if I would ask them if they would let their daughter marry a nigger, they would say yes. For them its about culture only. While most Morrocans in my country are based af and openly say they wouldn't want their daughters racemixing. Islam allows this stance and encourages pride of your own people as long as you follow Islam.We are lost without Islam. Our culture is dead, cannibalized by capitalism and cultural marxism. What is so bad about Islam ruling our countries? Women will stop whoring and have children again. Women will be taught that whoring around is bad. Whites will stop being taught to hate their own people. Worship will be in arabic and some cultural aspects that are against Islam, like statues will go, but for the rest, all culture will be restored and honored. The family and eldery will be honored. Jewry will be opposed.
Nowadays women choose their bulls on twitter and are 200% poisoned by feminism and slave morality. Christianity can be interpreted in any way, so the jews have done a number on it. It doesn't have state laws inherent to the religion. Furthermore it is worship of a human being.Isn't the case clear enough? I haven't converted yet but will most likely soon enough.
>>516671689The problem is that white countries are being overtaken by bad actors carrying the mantle of islam. Not actual muslims.If you let them take over, it'll be the end for your country. There is no benefit to letting islamists take over.In real Islam it's actually haram to live in the lands of the infidels for reasons other than work and study. They are supposed to live in muslim countries.
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>>516673107Dawah is not a valid reason?My heart cries everyday for seeing the women of my people, with their beautiful blonde hair and blue eyes, acting like the worst creatures in existence, whoring and drinking themselves to death, and believing in feminism.FEMINISM is mainstream. Do you realize what fucking hell we are living in? why are you argueing against me? Are you even moslim?
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>>516673344Taking advantage of government aid, and outbreeding the native population is not dawah.
>>516671689Christians don't need Islam or Judaism, only God and his right hand is Jesus which is the Truth.
>>516673729I cant read your jewish spell, its too blurry
>>516671689Rabbinic Judaism and Islam are both from the devil.Jesus Christ is God and the only route to salvationMohammed was obsessed with sex and violence
>>516673825Worshipping a man is idolatryChristianity with its slave morality brought in jews and niggersNiggers fuck your daughter and you dont careThats it im converting
>>516674150He was not obssesed, he had a normal healthy sex drive
>>516673344>Do you realize what fucking hell we are living in?>For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
>>516674065kys phoneposter
>>516674207We don't worship a man, God is a spirit. The truth(Jesus) is His right hand. The truth part of the Holy Spirit of the Father.
>>516674409Dude, Christianity is fully in favor of jewry and the like and can be interpreted in a million waysIt also didnt predict a final war against the jewsHow could Mohammed have predicted this global jewish force?
>>516674349He gave instructions about how to take sex slaves. He got "divine inspirations" that said he ought to take this bird or that. His own wife commented that Allah's will seemed align with his desires suspiciously often.He was a horny old bandit.
>>516671689The endgoal of Islam is a global caliphateLet's say the entirety of Europe converts to Islam. How exactly, Abdul, is Islam going to stop racemixing when for instance Somalis now belong to the same country?
>>516671689So all trees talk but boxthorn trees are paid off by the Jews? Why didn't the Jews pay off some rocks too? Have you considered that religious stuff in general is kinda froot-loopy?
>>516671689Muhammad never existed. Mecca makes no sense. Earliest mosques point to Petra in Jordan.
>>516671689tldrgo back
>>516674629>Christianity is fully in favor of jewryDepends what you mean by jewry. Revelation and John are pretty clear on the present situation Christianity... can be interpreted in a million waysNo>It also didnt predict a final war against the jewsThere's nothing happened on earth that contradicts Christian eschatology so I'll stick with that
This is why I support Palestine. Because they’re the only ones who want to STAY
>>516674629He never says anything about Jews controlling the world. Just Jews fighting Muslims, which was already going on in seventh century Arabia.BTW, when Muhammad was asked several questions to prove he's a prophet, he got one of them spectacularly wrong
>>516674676Because it allows white fathers to decide who their daughter marriesYour daughter cant even flirt with men outsideIts allowed and even promoted by Islamic traditionalismISLAM IS NOT MARXIST IDEOLOGY WHERE YOU IMPORT A MILLION BROWNS Morrocans in my country are the most based and openly hate race mixing especially with blacksIslam is the answer for whites, nothing else can stand against the storm of post modernist jewry, capitalism and cultural marxism
>>516674654Sexual slavery is what every people did in war ever, its normal
>>516675063Even if that would solve racemixing, it's not going to stop thousands of Somalis cooming here. >ISLAM IS NOT MARXIST IDEOLOGY WHERE YOU IMPORT A MILLION BROWNS Nobody said anything about importing. They can just move to another part of what is the same empire>Morrocans in my country are the most based and openly hate race mixing especially with blacksLmao. Moroccans are wellknown as criminals, drug dealers and general nuisances.
>>516675060Jews being the final enemy of a global war means they are the global superpower by definitionWhy wouldnt he say Christians?
>>516675174Yeah cos it's a fallen world under the spell of the Prince of the Air.Did Christ preach in favour of taking sex slaves?No. Because he was God and taught the truth. Not a man enslaved by sin.
>>516671689So how many flies do you take with your morning coffee?
>>516675283Lots of them are criminals but that is against IslamAnd no, in a caliphate, you cant just move to any other place, there are regions of people that have their own lands
>>516675299No, it just means they're considered to be the most evil group. Christians had already made that argument for centuries before Islam. It also makes sense as Muhammad fought Jewish tribes, but not really ChristiansI also can't help but notice you're complete avoiding my point about Muhammad getting biology completely wrong, specifically when he was asked to prove he was a prophet
>>516671689>I can prove i'm whitekek, and dare I say lmao.
أَنَا بَرِيءٌ مِنْ كُلِّ مُسْلِمٍ يُقِيمُ بَيْنَ أَظْهُرِ الْمُشْرِكِينَ>>516673344obvious bait kek
>>516675350Im trying to save whites hereChristianity has slave morality which led to all this jewry and marxismIt can be interpreted a thousand waysSunni Islam is a strict religion that you cant fuck around withWomen and men in their proper placeNo racemixing, no white self hateAgainst jewsWhat more do you want
>>516675438>Lots of them are criminals but that is against IslamThen maybe they should stop doing that>And no, in a caliphate, you cant just move to any other place, there are regions of people that have their own landsSource: your ass. If the Netherlands were to become Islamic right now certainly the Somalis etc aren't going to move
>>516675721Maybe we should have Islam which would jail those fatbike riding ghouls and have them learn about IslamMaybe we should have Islam so we can overthrow the jewish tyrants so the Morrocans can return homeThey all want to go home, you do realize that right?
>>516675609You sound like a slave to wrath, pride and lust.Racial idolatry is idolatry. I thought racism was foreign to Islam anyway?Rabbinic Judaism and Islam both post date Christ. I suspect they are the devil's response to the gospel. Hence the heinous stuff in the texts of both.
>>516675283Kek even KUWAIT didn't accept Syrian refugees, calling them "too different."It's literally ONLY white women who invite mass groups of foreign men.Anyway another thread where y'all will have NOTHING except memes to offer. Muh goats. Muh inbred. Muh shitholes. Not replying at all would be less discrediting to your side.
>>516675609>No racemixing, no white self hateMuhammad specifically said that what's important for a husband is his piety and character. Not his race>>516675873>Maybe we should have Islam which would jail those fatbike riding ghouls and have them learn about IslamMaybe we shouldn't have Moroccans>They all want to go home, you do realize that right?Lmao. You can't be this deluded. They can all go home right now you retard. It's not like Morocco is unreachable, thousands go their on holidays to visit family members. But they choose to stay here, and every year thousands of Moroccans cross the Mediterranean sea to reach the west
>>516675935Jesus was the messiah who tried to save jews from their evilThey tried to kill himIslam is the cure, while Christianity allowed all this gay marxism to happenWhites are dying and you are coming with these fucking arguments? Im not fucking around here, im giving a real solution
>>516676099>Kek even KUWAIT didn't accept Syrian refugees, calling them "too different."Good for them, but in a global caliphate what exactly would be the religious objection to them moving?
>>516676157No race is superior than another, but you are allowed to be ethnocentrist and have your daughters NOT MARRY FUCKING NIGGERSThe fact you think that "not being racist = you must allow your daughters to fuck browns" is so extremely cucked
>>516676157You are obviously unaware of what the French and Spaniards have done to their economy and the like. You are painfully unaware of what jews and white race traitor capitalists have done to the world.Its all a jewish plan.
>>516676254Again, if Muhammad was a prophet why did he get the answer to the question about a child resembling his parents so badly wrong?>>516676388>No race is superior than another, but you are allowed to be ethnocentrist and have your daughters NOT MARRY FUCKING NIGGERSThat's what you say, not what Muhammad said. He said what was important was piety and character. Your screeching is not important in the realm of Islamic ruling
>>516676254>Jesus was the messiah who tried to save jews from their evilHe came to save all mankind from their sin and the death that it leads to.I suspect God chose the Jews to be the vessel for Mary and Christ because they were the most stiff-necked people. He gave everyone a chance to accept the truth >Islam is the cureIslam cures nothing. Look at the state of the islamic world.>while Christianity allowed all this gay marxism to happenMarxism is born from the Enlightenment. It is rationalistic and materialist. It contains a parodic echo of Christian ethics and soteriology but it is fundamentally different and based in pride and envy>Whites are dying and you are coming with these fucking arguments?Everyone's dying. It's a fallen world. >Im not fucking around here, im giving a real solutionThere is one solution to evil of the world and it is not islam
>>516676630Islamic ruling is that its allowed to be ethnoxentrist and that a woman cant marry if her father doesnt want itIt also doesnt promote self hate like Christianity and marxism doesSelf hate is the entire reason women go for blacks
>>516676829Marxism is born from slave morality which is inheritely Christian
>>516676578>You are obviously unaware of what the French and Spaniards have done to their economy and the like. You are painfully unaware of what jews and white race traitor capitalists have done to the world.Interesting how often you then switch to blaiming whites for colonising the muslim world and causing these problems, when you're proven wrong about Morroccans wanting to go home.If Islam has the right to conquer other territories, then so does the West.BTW, still no answer to the question about Muhammad getting biology wrong. Can't respond to it?
>>516676379Are you listening to yourself?>Yes centuries of Ottoman rule preserved natural ethnic boundaries, but WHAT IF 1.1 million per year come instead of our current 1 million per year???
>>516671689Mohammed proved himself to be a false prophet by his own words lmao.why listen to anything he said.
>>516676829The state of Islamic world is because they dont have caliphate anymore, destroyed by the jews and the french and english
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/51/16>لاَ تُؤْذِينِي فِي عَائِشَةَ، فَإِنَّ الْوَحْىَ لَمْ يَأْتِنِي، وَأَنَا فِي ثَوْبِ امْرَأَةٍ إِلاَّ عَائِشَةَReminder that the anti-figural Isra’iliyat hadith is a result of Jewish influence. Jewish converts to Islam (Isra’iliyat) such as the Yemenite Jew Ka’b al-Ahbar, who converted to Islam in 638 and, who is frequently cited as an authority for the hadith, and the Jewish converts to Islam and early expositors of the Koran, ‘Abd Allah ibn Abbas, Abu Huraira and Wahb ibn Munabbih, whom, it is suggested, brought into Islam the longstanding Jewish opposition to images and which came to the fore in the second half of the 8th century under the Abbasid Caliphate and which has been a force in parts of Islamic society from that point onwards.Islam got subverted long ago. It's hard to take this religion seriously.
>>516676839>Islamic ruling is that its allowed to be ethnoxentrist and that a woman cant marry if her father doesnt want itTheir is nothing in Muhammad's words advocating that the father is advocated to be ethnocentrist. Stop making things up and claiming it's Islamic ruling. I've given you multiple fatwa websites already
>>516676959Are you even understanding the issue?>Yes centuries of Ottoman rule preserved natural ethnic boundaries, but WHAT IF 1.1 million per year come instead of our current 1 million per year???Give me a single religous objection to let's say 0.1 miillion per year coming. >>516677008Looks like Islam wasn't strong enough to defeat the West then
>>516671689He`s based, but that nietschean take>slave moralityPretty much describes ALL derivatives of the judaic yhwism. So he`s based among the golems, and a filthy goatfucker among the romans.You must go back to catch a bomb.
>>516676915I dont blame whites, but jewish puppets that propaganda tells you are the whites. They dont represent whites, but jewish interests. Just like the arab tyrants of today dont represent muslims, they are a shield protecting the jews and going after money only.Those same colonialists, that both marxist and nationalists want you to believe are "the real whites", are the gay faggot liberal tyrants of today, pushing niggers on our women and faggotry on our men. They are tyrants nothing more. They hate whites and only want money. Fuck those colonialists. They ruined both whites and browns for their own greed.
>>516676911That's Nietzschean bullshit. Nietzsche - a raging incel who died from a disease he caught off a prostitute. Christian morality is rooted in Christ's example. We try to do as He did and as he taught because that was what He did and taught Marxism doesn't accept Christ so it's morality is based on nothing. It's a cultural echo of Christian morality, it's not thought through. That's why they were murdering millions within a few decades
>>516671689The quran also accurately predicted the drying up of the euphrates
>>516677008I thought you said Islam was a solution to all that? Doesn't look it worked
>>516676915I dont know about the biology, its a good question. Im not muslim yet. But the system seems like a perfect system antithetical to jewish black magic tyranny.Look at the state of our women bro. Doesnt that make you want to put a bullet in your head?
>>516677008>islam is the real victimno, its because muslims are degenerates and their works based religion doesnt work.
how many times does the quran instruct muslims to kill people? it is not a godly religion at all, demonic
>>516677574Its a solution in a societal matter, in terms of war, any party can win through forceThe state of the west is not superior btw, we have more welfare, but look at the state of our women and moralityNiggers and our consumerism run our culture, thats superior to you?
>>516677615>the state of our womenIs down to the Enlightenment
>>516677550Where?
>>516677550the bible predicted thisits all sandnigger nonsense anyway
>>516677815And the enlightenment could only happen because of Christianity
>>516677512I want the races to be separate, you advocate a caliphate with no religous objection to Muslims coming to the west nor against racemixing. You have been given several possibilities to cite rulings that racemixing isn't allowed, but can't.>>516677615>I dont know about the biology, its a good question.It proves that Muhammad isn't a prophet, by his own words. I'm not going to state my eternal salvation on this guy then>Look at the state of our women bro. Doesnt that make you want to put a bullet in your head?I'm not a fan of the current situation, but I can't see Islam making it better. I'm not going to flood the village to put out a kitchen fire
>>516671689He was a homosexual who banned dogs because they'd bark at night when his gay lover came in for him.He was a bohemian merchant as much as his despised jews and they called him their messiah.https://youtu.be/C9rzPGJ0wm4
>>516677984Dude, racemixing only happens because of self hate which is a Christian ideaA muslim father decides who his daughter marriesAny normal white man would only allow his daughter to marry a white man, except maybe in exceptional cases for diplomatic reasons or something
>>516677762I agree about the state of our culture. But Christianity didn't cause that and Islam won't change it for the betterNation, race etc - they are nineteenth century hallucinations. Don't make an idol of themThe basis of everything is God and your relation to himThe problems came when our culture forgot God and left us alone with the Sel. The shit flows from that mistake.Things will get worse. The devil rules the world.
>>516677881The Enlightenment is Luciferian, not Christian Why did the devil attack Europe and not Asia or Africa?
>>516678225*Self
>>516678335Since Africa is also substanially Christian it should have according to that logic
>>516678225Why did Christianity allow itself to be undermined by the enlightenment?
>>516678433Africa wasn't Christian in the sixteenth century
>>516678209>Dude, racemixing only happens because of self hate which is a Christian ideaAh yes, nobody from different nations had sex before Christianity, got it.Dude, human beings have been mixing with Neanderthals.>Any normal white man would only allow his daughter to marry a white man, except maybe in exceptional cases for diplomatic reasons or somethingAnd Muhammad said nothing about that. If a good believing Somali man comes, he sees no objection
>>516678483It's the cumulative result of the individual choices made by people
>Islam was so based, unlike the degenerate west
>>516677237I don't need to disprove your hypothetical dipshit, focus on what the current situation is and whether it could possibly get worse.The absolute cope here. You don't HAVE A CHOICE. If you won't accept Islam for 1488 then stop calling yourself white nationalists.
>>516678800>I don't need to disprove your hypothetical dipshit,Because you can't raise a religious objection>You don't HAVE A CHOICE.Try using allcaps more, that makes it more convincing>If you won't accept Islam for 1488 then stop calling yourself white nationalists.Ah yes, the global caliphate will prevent immigration because...reasons
>>516678533There is no objection but you are allowed to have an ethnocentrist mindsetAnd the arabs did have that actuallyIts left up to you, so muslim whites can decide for themselves who their daughters marry, and its normal to have a preference for your people.
>>516678483why do muslims drink alcohol when they are in the west?same reason
>>516678611Those were unislamic aspect just like drug use, they are not according to the religionIf the religion is followed its all good
>>516678972>There is no objection but you are allowed to have an ethnocentrist mindsetAnd Muhammad and the Qur'an specifically advocated against such ethnocentrist mindsets. The only real objection I've ever seen is specifically for Arabs, i.e. Arab women not being suited for non-Arab men. Everything else is fine
>>516678611>Resorts to quoting some bugman kafirs modern American academicGrim
>>516671689>can prove i'm whiteCan you? Post nose
>>516678987Drinking alcohol is not the same as letting your entire civilization to collapse under debauchery and devilry
>>516678963Immigration is a red herring retard. It makes no functional difference if you die out THEN get replaced. Literally the best possible thing that could happen to whites is being taken over and ruled by Muslim sharia law. It's not even disputable, that's why you won't admit you have no choice.
>>516679104It preaches war against anyone who isn't muslim
>>516679104I could say the same thing about the Enlightenment, which you brought up>>516679134>Can't respond, starts just throwing insults in the hope it makes an impactSad. Pic related is what was going on in 19th century Turkey
>>516673107>In real Islam it's actually haram to live in the lands of the infidels for reasons other than work and study. They are supposed to live in muslim countries.Absolutely false and you're either a munafiq or a saboteur trying promotes distorion of Islam under the guise of pretending to be a Muslim.
>>516679260Lol, im argueing against jewish tyranny and you want me to post nose? Fuck you retard
>>516679262but it happened to islamic nations too.
>>516679398Who cares, just convert and have your people against jews and masons and have your women not be whoresWhat could be better
>>516679328>Immigration is a red herring retardI would say that too if I was an immigrant I guess> It makes no functional difference if you die out THEN get replaced. It certainly doens't help when we're flooded with all kinds of peoples who don't belong here> Literally the best possible thing that could happen to whites is being taken over and ruled by Muslim sharia law.I'm sure the Somalis who will be in charge really have strong objections to not being allowed to marry western women
>>516676379it would be federal as the muslim brotherhood state not just one borderless zone, all the caliphates had governors and regions, otherwise there would have been mass migration within the caliphates
Things Islam objects to>pork>music>artThings Islam doesn't object to>immigration>race mixing>cousing marriageYes surely Islam will save Western culture
>>516679679Worshipping God and not being indoctrinated into a totalitarian satanic moon cult
>>516678483>Why did Christianity allow itself to be undermined by the enlightenment?It didn't. The inconsistencies of Christendom actually created enlightenment. For example, witch hunting, aristocratic practices, the incoherence of trinity, slavery issue and of course the bible's inconsistencies. With Islam, Europe never would have those issue in the first placeAnd most of the intellectual and military progress actually came after englightenment. By the time the colonial powers conquered most of the outer world, Europe wasn't following the bible like pre-enlightenment.So Europe is just better without Christianity. With Islam, you still have Jesus, but as a human prophet, having as high status that prophethood allows. He just isn't God. God doesn't beget, nor is begotten, nor is He killed. That's the whole pointThe only reason you reject it is not because of the message, rather some superiority complex over non-Europeans. Many pagan arabs also rejected Islam just because they bore a higher lineage than most of the the prophet's companions
>>516671689>He predicted that jews will run the worldWow some pedo dune coon predicted dune coons getting BTFO by jews? Something that happened throughout history and was currently happening while he was alive? >HOW DOES HE DO IT BROS? >HE IS TRULY THE SON OF GOD>I MUST WORSHIP HIMYou might as well worship/pol/. At least we exist.
>>516679706If there is a real caliphate, white men and brown men will discuss like men that white lands are for whites and brown land for brownsAnd thats itSuch discussions aint even possivble in the current state of tyranny
>>516679838All countries and especially empires have governors and regions. That doesn't mean there is no migration.The only reason mass migration didn't happen often is because practical reasons. Average guy was just a peasant working the land. There is no religious objection to it.
>>516679978>They will just discuss this>And then all the brown people will decide to leave voluntarily>Trust meno
>>516671689all he ever preached was killing, raping, destroying, that's why you see every muslim country on the planet today is a violent, oppressive, shitty hellhole full of inbred retards raping animals and children and cutting off innocent's heads with chainsaws.islam is just as evil as Judaism, and spreads like a cancer.
>>516679906My bad akhi I take back my earlier post.After reading this I can see you're actually sincere.
>>516673107>"invasion">"they are taking over"I keep seeing this being stated over and over. That's not what's happening. It's an invitation. Foreigners are INVITED. They get preferential treatment which inevitably causes natives to become resentful. We end up in a vicious cycle that escalates where bad actors from different groups are used in the media to portray the other group as demonic. This doesn't change the power dynamic. IT EMPOWERS IT.
>>516680128Yes they will retardWe will run our lands so they have no choice but we will help them as brothers to have a good economyJews are ruining it for everyone and setting us up against each other cant you see it
>>516679906Yeah i know im argueing for Islam, its my thread
>>516679883Holy shit lmao this is peakThere's no such thing as "culture" FAGGOT, LOL, the word itself meant "agriculture" only until a couple centuries ago, now it means the exact things killing your race: degeneracy like capitalism, "human rights", nigger music.HHAAHAHA absolutely hopeless. AND there's the memes: >They're INBRED RACE MIXERS!!! Like pick one at least idiot XDDDThank God I converted to Islam and didn't remain a cringemaxxed wignat tradcuck"Hurr Durr muh old paintings, it's muh culture, we wuz bacon and doggos, "
>>516679924>some pedo dune coonHow old was Mary when she gave birth to Jesus? 12. Check the apocrypha. How from a scientific perspective, how do you think a virgin woman get pregnant?The pedo argument should never come from christkikes kek>apocryphas don't matterIn that case the whole bible is an unreliable mess of apocrypha. For Quran and hadith, even the most unknown hafiz(rememberer) of Quran can tell you his lineage of learning all the verses, from his teacher to the prophet himself>predicted dune coons getting BTFO by jewsyes. Here's the hadith - The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said:“The beginning of this matter is Prophecy and mercy, then it will be Caliphate and mercy, then it will be Kingship and mercy, then there will be Imarah and mercy,then they will fight over authority like fighting donkeys biting one another. So hold fast to jihad, and the best of your jihad is Ribat (i.e. guarding the frontier in the face of enemies), and the best and most virtuous of your Ribat is ‘Asqalan'.”Related by al-Tabarani on the authority of Ibn ‘Abbas (r) in al-Mu‘jam al-Kabir #11138. Al-Haythami said ‘it’s men (i.e. narrators) are trustworthy’ (Majma‘ al-Zawa’id, 5/193).After the Islamic conquest of Palestine, Asqalan was synonymous with Gaza (غزة), the area was known as “غزة عسقلان” (“Gaza Asqalan”).There are a lot more like this
>>516680381>Yes they will retardEvidence: zero>We will run our lands so they have no choice but we will help them as brothers to have a good economyWho even says we will run our land?>Jews are ruining it for everyone and setting us up against each other cant you see itMaybe the Jews advocated bring Muslims here. That doesn't mean they don't have a reason to come and and stay
>>516673107>muh not true mudslimesfuck off nigger.you're all extremist jihadists who justify child rape, death, and destruction of culture and history as it being for allah. without exception, every muslim holds barbaric and savage morals and standards.you're incompatible with civilized society.that's why every muslim country is a war torn shit hole stuck in the dark ages.
>>516671689>yet ANOTHER version of Yawheh worshipI'm getting real tired of this El skin suit wearing faggot.
>>516680377Our superiors are neglecing us."Egalitarian""Democratic"No this is satanic. They sold their soul to satan.
>>516671689This is all you need to know about Mohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtTYxxmVpvAhttps://sunnah2.com/262tl;dr Mo took BBC in the desert all night long, as confirmed by Islamic sources
>>516680521>culture doesn't existI genuinely don't even to know how to respond to this level of retardation>now it means the exact things killing your race: degeneracy like capitalism, "human rights", nigger music.I feel sad for people like you who think all culture is nigger music
>>516680377Truth, plus there an obvious selection bias (obviously only the LEAST religious Muslims would move to a Non Muslim land where you can't even get Fridays off for prayer etc).Somehow every nafri pickpocket is le heckin pious Muslim but the pope himself isn't le real christian, just lol
>>516679558The only saboteur is the one who commits crimes against humanity while shouting allahu akbar.
>>516680377They aren't invited by the people, but by your government. You are effectively being invaded. Whether it was legal or not.
>>516680565We don't.
>>516680751I just explained it. Culture is a neologism and describes pathetically superficial things like traditional songs, dance, clothes, and food. Now those are all judeo-negro in the west, permanently, precisely because you lack religion and support capitalism (which necessarily reduces it to POPULAR culture ie mass marketed nigger tier shit).You're really not very bright I'm afraid
>>516671689like every otha mayo-ass crackkka on dis dumpster fire of a site u a whole entire dumbass on god. fr fr u ain got a clue. da "problem" ain da religion isself its da folks who be on dat bullshit w it. u really think yo great-granddaddy a christian jus like u woulda been sweet n let all dis fly in todays society? nah son. its dat paper n dat cushy soft life dat made yall weak as hell not de religion. deadass. u really think if morocco or syria wuz gettin money like da nederlands dey'd still be on dat super-conservative muslim vibe? dat whole system would crumble my g. itd b a wrap. n dem whitebois who convert to islam? lmao. dey da biggest dumbest anti-racist simps i swear. dey outchea w da welcome wagon fo da very same muslims who come to dey countries to SA dey womyns n shank dey own citizens. its a whole clown show...
>>516680565>child rapehow much muslims are there in the epstein files? how much more rape the catholic fathers doing in the churches?>deathhow much more did we kill than hitler, mao or netanyahu? In which way?>destruction of culturewhat culture?/ onlyfans? lgbt? debt trap?(Islam bans interests from debts)>savage moralsColoninal kafirs are savages. Communist kafirs are savages. Zionist kafirs are savages. Liberal democracy and war are savageryBeing a kafir is savagery>that's whyThe ZOG fall in the coming decades will also take you to your shithole snownigger to the dark ages as before. Your time has come. You can see it, that's why you're seething in this useless imageboard so muchCOPE AND SEETHE. When we conquer Jerusalem, I'm taking two slave women if the caliph allows
>>516680863>Truth, plus there an obvious selection bias (obviously only the LEAST religious Muslims would move to a Non Muslim land where you can't even get Fridays off for prayer etc).That explains why their home countries are so amazing. Let's take Pakistan for instance, it's a paradise
>>516681041>All culture is judeo-negro in the west, permanently>because I say soLet me ask you this. Why does Islam forbid music? I'm not saying there are no objections to some kinds of music, but why all music? Some books are bad too, but Islam doens't forbid all books.Music has been part of human cultures across the globe for millennia. Flutes tens of thousands years old have been found.Why could we give that all up just because some seventh century Arab, who couldn't prove he was a prophet when specifically challenged, said so?
>>516671689this is what the death of god looks like in the microcosm of a disenfranchised white man's head. may you find peace, you poor bastard
The somali racemixing argument itt can be dismissed when we take the principle of Urf into account. The culture of the dutch(or anyone), as long as it does not contradict sharia, can be incorporated into society. Although Islam disavows racism and thus allows racemixing, It is not a right that everyone must do.
>>516674207You don't know anything about Islam. Muhammad's followers would literally drink his piss to get into Jannah. kys.
>>516681538>it's not a right everyone must doStrawman, nobody said Islam made it mandatory. I'm saying it has no objection to it and thus the west converting to Islam would not help to prevent it
>>516675299He did say it would be Christians.
>>516673729>>516673308Islam is the religion of truth, and for limp wristed, assmad jew lovers like you and the OP in the screenshot, the truth hurts.
>>516681115I dont need to prove shit for child rape, its literally legal in half the muslim countries to marry children.Everything else is completely justified by muslims as long as it's done to kafir. That's why terrorism is most commonly done by muslims, pakistani rape gangs go around europe slaughtering and raping 12 year olds, syrians are driving through people shopping at christmas markets, I can go on with hundreds of examples.Youve destroyed art, sculptures, shrines, etc. many times throughout history, in previously Buddhist countries for example. You stifle all advancement in science and technology and devote your entire existence to sucking goat dick and praying 42 times a day.Islam is the religion of death, destruction, rape, and thievery.Your last sentence even proves my point. You arent human, youre pure evil incarnate straight from hell following a death cult created by a warlord.
>>516681486Most of your musical instruments were introduced by the Moors.You rekt yourself with this line of questioning:When you BAN something, you eliminate the VAST MAJORITY of its harms, which is what matters for society.Will people play music and draw humans? Sure, but not as a mass public affairs which inevitably leads to the bar being lowered until there's profit-seeking ventures like raves and pornography.Music literally changes your brain waves and manipulates your emotions. I expect 4chuds to know the history of this Jewish research, not just /x/ posters
>>516680565There's nothing perfect about the world and i hate money existing. Everyone wants it and its not even real
>>516674207You havent been in tounch with real Orthodox Christianity, our priests were blessing tanks during the war
>>516675063>ISLAM IS NOT MARXIST IDEOLOGY WHERE YOU IMPORT A MILLION BROWNSmuslims ARE the millions of browns. are you fucking retarded?
>>516682019>Most of your musical instruments were introduced by the Moors.>You rekt yourself with this line of questioning:Are you 18 years old or something. Let's say the moors did that, what does it even prove? Muslims also drink alcohol when Islam forbids it, as you even addmitted.>When you BAN something, you eliminate the VAST MAJORITY of its harms, which is what matters for society.>Will people play music and draw humans? Sure, but not as a mass public affairs which inevitably leads to the bar being lowered until there's profit-seeking ventures like raves and pornography.What are the harms of music and drawing humans them. Sure, some art and music are bad. But again, some poetry and books are bad too, and Islam allows thoseWhat's the harm in me listining to some violins
>>516680926>but by your governmentour government>You are effectively being invaded.Not me personally. Some people have their bodily autonomy invaded with a sharp object by recent arrivals. It doesn't affect everyone equally, but it's terrible for commoners regardless of background. Radicalism is rising in popularity and will at this rate lead to much undeserved suffering and death.
>>516682099they were blessing tanks who went to brothers war engineered by communist milosevic and titos general tudjman, so based!
Where's the autistic Turk flag? Not speaking about myself ofc.
>>516680381lmao they are never coming back
>>516682289>What's the harmApparently quite a lot since it's led to your utter doom as a race and civilization.I'll give you another:Some sheikhs ruled ball sports to be Haram.Why:-Causes enmity and factions btwn ppl-is a waste of time-Can cause head trauma for no reason-Is imitation of the kuffar -Encourages gambling And in your case it causes entire generations of youth to utterly WORSHIP NIGGERS LOLSomeone get this guy a copy of the protocols so he can learn about the dangers of "culture"
I believe in nothing and i hate everything.Death to cultists.
>>516671689he not only predicted that but many other things too
>>516682912>Apparently quite a lot since it's led to your utter doom as a race and civilization.Non sequitur. As I already said thousands of cultures have had art and music. Tens of thousands of years ago we had music>Some sheikhs ruled ball sports to be Haram.Looking at your list you might as well ban pretty much all sports. Surely all martial arts. Hiking is also imigation of the kuffar etc.
>>516681712Sorry, I did not read the whole thread and I should probably should explain Urf some more. Urf is the Islamic equivalent of common law. There is also Kafa'ah which I forgot to mention. Kafa'ah literally means equivalence in regards to marriage. You can choose "compatible" people in terms of lineage, status, wealth, custom, etc. I think this could help prevent the dreadful racemixing.
the bible:>love thy neighbor>do unto others as you would have done to yourselfthe quran:>RAPE AND KILL ALL KAFIR>DESTROY ALL ART AND TAKE THEIR LANDand you look at every muslim country and wonder why its a shit hole? these people are fucking worse than animals. muslims are all inbred brainwashed retards who only know violence and sticking their smelly brown dicks into goats and children.
>>516683285From the evidence I've seen, Muhammad said what was important was piety and character. Not lineage/race
>>516682912>NIGGERSUsing that word is haram according to your religion>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mdgQmv_KoM
>>516683439Yes, it's true , it doesn't really matter what race you are as long as you're righteous.
>>516683246>thousands of cultures have had art and music.And drugs and pagan rituals and legends, who gives a shit. What was the EFFECTSAnd yes martial arts is definitely haram if it causes brain damage, your body isn't yours to abuse like a tattooed trannyAccording to Hadith 3 sports are halal: swimming, horseriding, and target practice. Practical skills
I tried inventing a new religion but no one listened to meSo i hope everyone drops dead
>>516683801running is also mentioned if i remember there was some hadiths about how they played agaisnt each others racing
>>516683801they did wrestling tho
This really says it allThere's only 24 hours in a day, a good person shouldn't waste it on idle entertainment. It's a travesty that Netflix is even allowed to exist. A literally infinite source of retarded Jewish propaganda stories to get fat watching.
Just wait for prophet to return and start from zero. Allah should know by now humans are retards
>>516683801>Who gives a shit about all art and music being destroyed, some Arab guy said it so we must listen and obeyWhat a sad life you must have. Do you also think listening to birds is haram, because it's arguably a kind of music>According to Hadith 3 sports are halal: swimming, horseriding, and target practiceSeems to me like all these can be considered forbidden for the same reasons you earlier mentioned. All were practiced by non-Muslims long before Islam. Swimming particularly sounds like imitating the kuffar, can't imagine that being something commonly done in the inlands of Arabia. And horseriding is certainly used for gambling.
If allah is truly a benevolent demiurg he will tailor things to our needs so that we can easily get into the good stuff, cause humans are retards
>>516684492not all music is haram just the degenerate music
>>516682621yes same as brohters war in ukraine is engineering by putin, not the jews/cia
>>516684492LMAO you're beclowning yourself with these stretches. Hey it's your funeral chud. "Omg just let ppl enjoy things" said the kafir
>>516671689You're so much dumber than is legal. Everything you wrote is dead wrong propaganda diametrically opposed to reality.t. ex convert to islam
>>516673107No true scotsman is a fallacy. Own up the absolute state of your people.
>>516684881I'm sorry but that's not what I read, nor what the other Muslims in this thread are saying>>516685070>Just ban all art and music because this Arab guy said so>Don't argue, just listen and obeyOk then, why doesn't Islam forbid poetry? You might argue it's because non-degenerate poetry is fine. And then I can say the same thing about musicEspecially instrumental music btw would be hard to raise any objection to
>>516685434bring me a verse from the quran or even a hadith that says that music is completely haram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc27-dmJ_4w
Ever heard of self fulfilling prophecy?If you say yes x will rule the world. You increase the chances that x will rule the worldThis was known already in the ancient world, its called creating as you speak. So if you say everyday of the week that x will rule the world tand if all the followers propagate that then yes eventually x will rule the world
Well chances will be higher that x will rule the world if you always say x will rule the world.
>>516685434Things are Haram because their harms outweigh their benefits even if your human mind can't conceive how/why. WHEW that I even need to explain that
Jews themselves states they prefer islam as a goy religion. Make of that what you want
>>516685629What do you say about his other predictions ?
>>516671689>Islam is the exact antithesis of jewish tyrannyIslam is the most perfect embodiment of jewish tyranny.>faggotryWrong, you are the most sodomy-practicing people on Earth and everyone knows it, it's useless to attempt to defend yourselves.>feminismWrong, you're really just actual woman-hating unironic faggots.>liberalismEconomic liberalism is good. Seethe about it.>marxist slave moralityYou're allied with marxists and islam is the definition of slave morality.>nigger worshipYeah, it's arab worship instead.Everything you write is a lie. Literally everything.
>>516685513It's not my position, it's the position of Islamic scholars. Ultimately their opinion of what Islam allows and doesn't allow defines the religion. Read here for instance https://islamqa.info/en/answers/5000/is-music-haram
So yes group x will rule the world at the end days cause some hadith by some writer who claims to have heard from some prophet close relative that the prophet said that x will rule the world at the end daysSee where this is going?
>>516685795/thread>>516685768The muslim mind can't conceive of anything other than submission to the perceived strongest guy. This is the most effeminate morality of all.
>>516685768>Things are Haram because their harms outweigh their benefits even if your human mind can't conceive how/why.In other words, somehow, someway it's bad. Don't question it
>>516685905Did he even make them. A lot of stuff is forged hadiths, one look at the modern internet proves it. Youll find 100000 quotes be "karl marx" but what karl marx said was maybe 5 of those
>>516685252Not my people. I disown and disavow them.
>>516685969those are the most strict scholars you will find many other scholars say the opposite , scholars dont matter much and many of them are stupid desu
>>516686024>Submitting to GOD HIMSELF is effeminate Well you're the authority on effeminate behavior Frenchie so I'll take your word
History is written by the victors. Its very well possible that the group x wrote down an entire religion for slaves in such a way that you cant question itBut thats also the catch youll need some sort of a same brainwash apparatus to beat the master anyway , its a double edged sword and eventually the master is going to cut himself with his own blade. It WILL happen. Its only a matter of timeThats why theres whacky hadiths like everyone of group x will be hunted down and killed. Its simply self awareness by the propagator of the hadith
>>516671689Mohammed was just a bullshit artist and wannabe warlord who just mashed up a bunch of stuff from arabic paganism, Christianity and judaism to try to get more followers. The Quran is mostly jibberish because large parts of it are taken from early Syrian Christian liturgical texts that were very badly translated from Syriac-Aramaic into classical Arab. Islam is a retard religion for plebian sand niggers who are too retarded to understand Christianity and concepts like the Trinity. To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Christianity.
>>516671689Islam won't fix anything only destroy much more, nobody in West will take any more the bait "just believe bro or you will burn in hell forever" take a look at all Muslim countries all of them are filthy low trust shitholes with streets ran by all kind of degenerates, Gulf states are lucky because of the oil without the oil they would be the same shitholes like any other Muslim country
So keep repeating islam will conquer the world and chance that it will happen is higher. I wouldnt mind a change of world though.
>>516685768>You must follow this rule even if you cannot make sense of it, just trust the book bro, It's incredible that I even need to explain to you the concept of blind faith.Religion of barbarian and blind idiots.A perfect religion for sand people, ngl.
>>516686267Noooo don't you understand there's only 1 school of Islamic law and it's the scary head choppy one we learned about from 9/11 fox news stuff , THEY CUT THE GOATS CLIT
>>516686159true hadiths were gathered 200 years after the prophets death but there is still some credibility
>>516686049Exactly, your warped kafir mind can't fathom trusting any authority blindly except Pfizer
>>516671689I could care lessI don’t really want a bunch of them getting mass imported to my country. The Jews are a way bigger problem considering they are the ones sending them here, and their ethnostate is constantly fucking with every Arab country surrounding it.I’d rather we all live in peace and be tourists I believe Muhammad said liked Christian’s but said Jews are pig headed and arrogant
Im rooting for islam just to spite the current world, it sucks so much, maybe islam will cut my head off fast in 1 swing id be happy with that, compared to this retarded suffering world its heaven
>>516686267>>516686690Well if you look at the quotes they say it's the opinion of all four schools.
>>516687023thats a hadith , and its narrated by a chain of 7 peaple that i dont even know existed why should i trust it ? and its only 1 hadith , i dont care about scholars
>>516686793>Trust blindlyFideism, so convincing. I'm almost converting. Call me kafir a few more times, it makes your blind faith come across as more convincing
Why didnt contemporaries that lived AT the time of mohammad SAW wrote down stuff of him live, like right away. That i dont get
>>516687193Are you a Quranist? Not even trying to make a point, just curious
>>516687023And I agree with them , and you're a cuck for slapping in the headphones and playing le ebin track from 2009 when you were dating Emma, oh how I miss her, those were the days, LOL! Totally jewed
Either way a major one that always gets to me is that group X likes to circumcise their slaves
>>516686594So explain why trinity is more logical than unity of God
>>516687359yes to some extent , but i do believe that hadiths hold some truth to them but should not all be taken 100% seriously
>>516687299Most likely because they did, but 'Uthman had the evidence burned.
Meditation is with the head up, energy spiralling upward(hinduism, buddhism etx old stuff)But islamic prayer is opposite its putting your head first on the floor. Bassically earthing your sahasrara chakra directly to the ground. Like Your upper antenna linked to the earth, unleash the voltage right in. It brings peace sure but it seems like crushing a fly with a nuclear weapon. It gives instant unleash of frustrations. Are we really supposed to live thar way to be happy? With our face in the ground like a worshipping slave pleading for his life
>>516687409I do enjoy music indeed, like pretty much everyone in the history of mankind. If you want to think that's some kind of epic exposure of me, feel free to do so
>>516687359Are u Dutch convert or Moroccan/Turk?
>>516687488How does even Islam helps you to unite with God? They won't tell you a shit for that just use stolen ideas from other religions where Mohammed turned himself into the main character
I can disprove islam very simply, and in an objective manner.If Islam claims it commits idolatry, then they contradict themselves when venerating the black stone in the Kaaba, and the Kaaba in itself, this goes against all Islamic teachings on idolatry.By comparison, in some Christian denominations such as Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, icons/depictions are greatly venerated as well, but they make a clear cut case that such symbols will *NOT* put you in heaven, only your love in God and God Himself can grant you eternal life.In Islam however it is stated that whoever touches the black stone, will be protected by it, and the black stone will personally start to talk, and advocate for all true hearted muslims who have touched it.This means the stone has a holy purpose, while in Christianity the icons/crucifixea merely DEPICT a holy event/person.To cut it short:>The black stone IS itself holy.>The icons/crucifix SHOW something holy.Hence proving Islam participates in pagan idolatry and is not a true successor to the prophet of Abraham.
>>516687299They didnt have an abundance of paper or papyrus dude it's an oral culture. They would memorize a thousand line diss poem and do battle raps with opposing tribes and shit. Then the science of Hadith collection was developed to classify them by reliability
>>516688269Not a Muslim, I was asking him a question.
My brothers you should learn about Islam Eschatology. You will know how bad things we really at are now.
>>516688262It is, music is low IQ, recent study showed it. Can't entertain yourself with your own thoughts so you have Jew noise 24/7>>516688404Total bullshit on so many levels lmao.
>>516688230The thing is before his revelation mohammad saw used to MEDITATE in a cave, so why did he go from meditation to the bowing prayer all of a sudden. That is something i find weird, what made him do itWhat compelled him to do it
>>516688404The stone is a direction of prayer, if not, all muslims would pray in a different directionHoly=\=divineThe Prophet was holy, just like the Kaaba, Mary and Jesus, but they are not divineYou literally pray to a man
For other muslims its like yeah i saw that guy do it so i did it. But mohammad bowed to something we cant even see on his own he started that.
S a w
>>516688775If the prophet was so holy how come he was fooled by Satan to praise 3 Pagan goddesses, failed to expand Islam beyond Arabs, never left anything behind beside Islam and also got rode all night long by the men of Al-Zutt in the desert?
>>516688703The meditation is reserved for deeply pious people, the prayer is for everyoneIf you want you can meditate alot and get close to God, this is sufism, not to be conflated with the sufi cults who are deviant or even outside Islam entirely
>>516688660>It is, music is low IQ, recent study showed it.Show it>Can't entertain yourself with your own thoughts so you have Jew noise 24/7No, I don't listen to music when I'm reading. But it's nice to listen to sometimes and just relax.
All of the bad things happening is provoked by abrahamic religions>the conquest>the crusades>the second world war>the war on terror
>>516689043And abrahamics all are obsessed with moneyIt has to exist for some reason
>>516688917I dont know what youre talking about
>>516688969No wonder why when the prayer is done in a submissive bottom position bended over with ass high and face kissing the ground
>>516671689>I can prove i'm whiteYou need Jesus, son.
>>516688404Part 2 on objectively disproving Islam:The bewitching of MohammedIn classical Sunni sources report that Prophet Mohammed, was briefly affected by magic.Aisha is quoted in Sahi Albukari and other collections saying the Prophet “was bewitched so that he imagined he had done something which in fact he had not done.” The common narration names a man (often given as Labid ibn Asam) whose magic put the Prophet under a spell; the Prophet made dua and was shown (in a vision) the place of the charm (the well of Dharrwan), then he was cured. Classical tafsir and fiqh literature link this episode to the revelation of the Muawidhatayn (Surat al-Falaq and Surat an-Nas) as a protection/ruqyah and explain that prophets, being human, can suffer bodily ailments (sickness, eye-deceiving magic, etc.)The majority of traditional Sunni scholars accept the hadith reports as authentic and explain the incident as a temporary, real effect of sorcery that allah healed they do not see it as contradicting prophethood (prophethood does not imply being immune to all physical harms). Some modern critics or revisionist writers dispute the narration or its interpretation; these views exist but are a minority in classical scholarship. In mainstream Muslim belief the event is taken as part of the Prophet’s human experience: he received revelation, but could still be affected physically (as prophets could be ill or hurt). The occurrence is used in traditional exegesis to emphasise the protective value of the Muʿawwidhatayn and the need for seeking allah’s help. Quote the exact hadith texts and their chain-of-transmission details. Show classical tafsīr passages (Ibn Kathir, al-Qurtubi Ibn al Jawzi) that discuss the event. This proves Mohammed as a false prophet, scholars claim that this proves Mohammed human experience, but bewitching is fundamentally spiritual, therefore allah refuse/could not defend the soul of Mohammed.
>>516689137No one was talking about ass here man. Im talking about head on ground only. Youre corrupting this thread
>>516671689>White >Simping for shitskin religion Race traitor
>>516689240Go kiss the cock of your kikeloving master David Wood and apus
>>516689135Then you haven't been studying Islam properly to know what I'm talking about, you're just coping that you got no solution for the degeneracy so you hope a degenerate cult of control will fix your issues
>>516688989We have beautiful Quran reciters to listen to, what's better than that?>AbstractIntelligence is a key psychological feature associated to emotion and perception. Listening to music is often linked to emotional experience and sensation seeking (SS), traits that have been shown overall negatively correlated with intelligencehttps://pure.au.dk/portal/en/publications/intelligence-and-music-lower-intelligent-quotient-is-associated-w#:~:text=Abstract,overall%20negatively%20correlated%20with%20intelligence.
>>516689376Not an argument, but can you answer this objection >>516675060
>>516689460Even if it wasnt true, which it is, anything to put coalburners and jews in their place and restore traditional masculinity, femininity and patriarchial society
>>516689572Dont some children look more like one parent than the other?
>>516689572The odd thing is, the supposed theory of the child's gender being determined is mentioned exactly like that in the Jewish scripture. Meaning, for the Jews he was telling the "truth". Obviously this applies if you believe the whole story to be true which i don't.This post was brought to you by the Quranist gang.
>>516689759I'm talking about the whole who has discharge first argument. I hope I don't have to tell you that this is not why children resemble on or the other parent
Our countries were Christian and look where it brought us. Nigger worship, feminism and a cult of consumerism
>>516689866Everything that the Prophet says is true, so it must be, and cant have been disproven
>>516689315Talking the truth about Islam is not corrupting anything, Islam didn't appear to teach you anything it appeared to enslave and control, praying in such a position offers you absolutely nothing it's literally a humiliation ritual
>>516689240Part 3 in objectively disproving islam.This one will be the shortest and also the easiest to disprove, it revolves around Jesus or as the Quran likes to call him, Isa.The Quran states that Isa was never crucified, and that it was all just an illusion, and a test for the true faithful.This is important because in here Islam proclaims itself as a true continuation of the Injil (Bible). But there's a catch, the bible never prophecised about Mohammed, the scholars in Islam claim this was due to forgery.But Christianity never stated a Mohammed, they did however state that a "deciever of decievers" [satan] would appear, to quote just 2 passages: >Mark (13:22) >2 Timothy (3:13)This proves that "allah" of the Quran is actually the Shaytan, the Quran itself admits that Allah is a deciever.>Quran (3:54) The "translation" calls allah in Quran 3:54 as a "planner" although that translation is incorrect.But as yourselves this, did Allah not decieve his own followers when he created the illusion of Jesus being crucified? Was that not, in itself, deception? A cruel act on Allah's behalf to stray so many followers from the true Ummah for no apparent reason? Allah is the shaytan, but if he's isn't, then he's still worthy of your worship to betray so many people you could've called brothers and sisters.
>>516690035Yes, you humiliate yourself to the Almighty Creator, who doesn't play games, not even a little bit
>>516689761Here, another instance of hadith plagiarism from the Jewish sources. This is why hadith cannot be trusted.
>>516690083He's still not worthy*
>>516689568>We have beautiful Quran reciters to listen to, what's better than that?A lot of musical pieces>that studyFirst you were objecting to "kafir modern acadamics", but ok. That study has a paywall, but from the abstract it seems that people who seek sensations more, listen to music more in order to have stimulations. So? I guess those people also travel more. Is travelling now low IQ as well?
>>516690129There's plenty of theft from pagan cultures as wellThe hand of Fatima is actually a Carthagean symbol for the goddess of fertility
>>516690123Creator is cruel, where is the certainty that the afterlife is better? We only have to take it on blind faith. Our only option
>>516690028Fideism is not a particularly convincing position
>>516689614>anything to put coalburners and jews in their place Coalburners are accepted if the black is Muslim, race doesn't apper in Islam it's universalist and believes into Ummah which means you have to embrace blacks as your brothers, also Jews are still bff with Muslims > restore traditional masculinity, femininity and patriarchial societythere is nothing masculine about Islam, it's just a bunch of impulsive passive aggressive dysgenics that are tough only when in a big pack, also there are practices in Islam where men/boys are crossdressing for other men.
>>516690123Get thrown into a huge fiery place if you not a good one. But humans too stupid to know the reasoning behind it, so creator himself says
>>516690083The Bible is indeed corrupt, so your argument fails
>>516690314The misfortune is that all these retarded stories and practises are attributed to poor Muhammad. And someone tell this Dutch dude to calm down please.>>516690316Good question. I guess the only evidence we have of God being gracious is that he commands good and forbids evil, so to me at least he looks like a nice person. And what reason would he have to lie anyway, to entertain himself by looking at the shock on our faces?
>"life is a test"We literally havent asked this
>>516671689>We are lost without IslamBut we'll get to keep our foreskin.
>>516671689There are more ahadith that are stronger proof of prophecy imo but ok. In case you're actually a native dutch, I can understand your frustration but ultimately you don't chose who you guide and most of humans will enter hellfire as sad and scary as it may sound.>>516690083The enemies of Jesus planned and God planned, meaning you can scheme all you want but you can not outsmart The Creator. They failed to kill Jesus but were given the illusion and He knows best. >>516690682If you are sincere and strive against your desires to please Him you will be saved. He has given us all we need to not have an excuse. The Creator is the who decides, we have no choice but to submit.
>>516690677Yeah but it was forced upon us and then in the text he says that satan says i will make many ungrateful. So we must be grateful to be alive even though we totally had no say in the matter to be alive. This is why there are satanic cults, and the whole gnosticism thing. They say that satan has superior reasoning because he says that to be ungrateful is simply a consequence of freedom of choice because no one ever asked to be born
>>516690123And you took the bait, God doesn't want that and nobody should humiliate themselves for anything, humiliating yourself and showing a mindless submission is a low vibrational energy action that will affect negatively your spiritual journey and slow you down from uniting with the God
>>516671689He didnt exist. He was made upAll his sources and tales are written 300 to 900 years after he lived. Retcon.Also you are brown
>>516682122Can you separate the ideology and theology from its claimed adherents? I don't think a valid criticism of Christianity would be that Christian countries are the source of globally shipped feminism and otherwise liberal ideologies, therefore Christianity is liberal and feminist? At least be consistent. Atheism leads to the same thing with adherence to personal choice and freedom, unrestrained by an objective morality.
>>516689761How widespread would you say Quranism is in Turkey? I find it a rather interesting development, but I'm not sure how widespread it's in the Islamic world
>>516690382A father can decide whatever the daughter does, especially who she marriesYou honestly think a society of white masculine muslim men will allow their daughters to marry black?Even if some exception does, its the fathers choice, and not the jewish humiliation ritual of your daughter going out at night to fuck some dope slinging nignogIt would be more diplomatic and the man would be a black muslim who is noble and not a dirty nigAnd if you dont want to at all you can just not do itIt brings the fate of whites back in control of cleansed believing white men, and not in the hands of spoiled feminist white women who fuck brown to prove they're not le evil whiteAll marxist white self hate will be cleansedSounds good no?
>>516690884Yeah but the demiurge MADE us so whats the point of teating his own created machine. Maybe theres more to the story and there is something trapped inside the machine thats what eastern religions always try to liberated in discussions that we are simply a soul and that the body was forced upon us. Abrahamics are obsessed with the body, obsessed with money , obsessed with obedience. Theyre spiritual materialists
>>516690316you will always worship something even if you dont know it , i hope you understund this“Have you seen the one who takes his own desire as his god?” Qur’an 45:23
Be honest have you met righteous believer in any kind of religion in the last 10 years? actually follows and obeys words in the book
>>516671689You're intellectually a nigger.
>>516691054We have dealt with this before.>You honestly think a society of white masculine muslim men will allow their daughters to marry black?According to Muhammad, if those blacks are good believing Muslims, no problem>It would be more diplomatic and the man would be a black muslim who is noble and not a dirty nigThe Somalis will be thrilled to hear they get to marry white Muslim women.
>>516690910Akhtually, according to Quran we did indeed choose to come to Earth (33:72). And Satan later adds that he had no power over humans, but that he simply invited them.>>516690993I'd say half of all Quranists live in Turkey. Although that still isn't impressive.There are maybe 50k of us, give or take a bit. Though this number is rapidly increasing, plenty of young Muslims see only 2 options: apostate or ditch hadith.
>>516690382>CrossdressingIt is totally unislamic and prohibited in islam, it is prevalent in some areas like Afghanistan, and Islam is totally against it and punishes itLike there is no faggotry here, we literally have gay pride lol
>>516690884I know there is an unseen world. But why should i trust anything of the other skde to be benevolent? We cant see it. And the only time we get to see it so says creator is after we lived. So hes basically admitting something to us. This machine body is a limitation
>>516691192Not all Muslims are perfect. But Islam as God's One True religion is perfect. For every good non-Muslim, there are one hundred good Muslims. Again, not saying bad Muslims don't exist. There are bad people in every group. But the frequency of moral and principled, good people is far higher in Muslims than any other religion plus atheism.
>>516691245It isnt a problem but the white man can decide if he doesnt want toRacemixing is a result of white self hate which would not exist if we were muslimAnd most white men just wouldnt allow itIts up to the white men to not allow itWhich is the proper wayNot racism, healthy ethnocentricsm, is recommended in IslamNo race is better than the rest but you can decide who your daughter marries
>>516691261Thanks, I think that Muhammad Bin Salman in an interview some years ago moved closer to the Quranist position. It will be interesting to see how that develops
>>516691054>You honestly think a society of white masculine muslim men will allow their daughters to marry black?Yes because Islam is color blind, racism is a sin and every single Black muslim is your brother
>>516691162This is true but its hard to NOT worship something because simply gazing at something exchanges energy with it, thats why mohammad said dont look at those statues made by the other peoples cause its bad. Simply gazing at it is a form of worship. Thats why abrahamic angels are obessed with light and the eye and all that. Creator GAVE us eyes so why is it then evil to look at booba for example
>>516691261Why do they see those two options, hadith is necessary for IslamTurks are poisoned by secularism
Why are those gnostic wannabea at x always making jokes about not going into the light when you die cause youll be reborn into a new womb.
>>516691497Ethnocentrism isnt racism like i said so many timesCope on niggerMoroccans here hate to have their daughters marry blacksEven the pious onesYour argument is unsound both in theory and practice
>>516691626>Turks are poisoned by secularismKemalism
>>516691497While a Muslim must choose to prefer a pious black Muslim rather than an unpious white Muslim, there is nothing in Islam preventing the father from waiting to marry her daughter until a rightous white Muslim does come by. I think you should give Islam more of a fair shake. It is not liberalized Christianity.
>>516691486Are you just OP coming back, because you're reasing the exact same objections as he did.>Racemixing is a result of white self hate which would not exist if we were muslimPeople of different nations have been having children for a long time. Not as much due to practical constraints, but I don't see any evidence it's mrely due to self hate. In fact, people have had children with Neandarthals>And most white men just wouldnt allow itTo which Muhammad would say they have no valid reason>Not racism, healthy ethnocentricsm, is recommended in IslamCite me a source which states ethnocentrism is recommended in IslamAt the very least, your own argument proves that Islam is not as strict on racemixing as other ideologies out there. So why shouldn't I follow them?
>>516691261How did we choose to come to earth i must have missed that partHa so now its our own fault Very interesting. I like that cause that gives us power
>>516691119I like the way this guy thinks. Although such worldview must engender plenty of existential crisis so he has my sympathies.>>516691487Oh yeah, he tries to screw over the Wahhabis who try to hold down the country. What better way than trashing their entire scriptural basis? He openly said that most hadiths are fake and Islam will have its own reformation. Not just him in fact, other prominent names are also on the bandwagon. Recommended watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOQGOaNvLSU
>>516691626Why would it be necessary for me to know how many wives Muhammad had or how many times he slept with them in a day or how he used to tongue kiss Aisha while fasting or how cumming outside your spouse or "sex slave" is futile as it all happens according to gods will or how the sun sets under the throne of allah and rises again from there? 90% of hadith is made up to further glorify the figure of Muhammad when he was only and merely a prophet. The only the valid hadith is what expands upon the quran or what carries already existing tradition such as prayer or other pillars of Islam.
This look like a religion of peace to you? There's something fundamentally wrong with when it can only produce these results. It's enough to make even Satan blush.
>>516690129Whatever the jews and christians that corresponds with the authentic narrations is true. Simple as that.>>516691330On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Prophet (ﷺ) said:Allah the Almighty said: I am as My servant thinks I am (1). I am with him when he makes mention of Me. If he makes mention of Me to himself, I make mention of him to Myself; and if he makes mention of Me in an assembly, I make mention of him in an assembly better than it. And if he draws near to Me an arm's length, I draw near to him a cubit, and if he draws near to Me a cubit, I draw near to him a fathom. And if he comes to Me walking, I go to him at speed. (1) Another possible rendering of the Arabic is: "I am as My servant expects Me to be". The meaning is that forgiveness and acceptance of repentance by the Almighty is subject to His servant truly believing that He is forgiving and merciful. However, not to accompany such belief with right action would be to mock the Almighty. It was related by al-Buhkari (also by Muslim, at-Tirmidhi and Ibn-Majah).tldr: If you purify your heart and increase your good deeds, your thoughts will improve. Don't waste your time speculating about things that can only be known by revelation. Most people tend to thing about their bodies, money etc the natural state of man is oppression. Oppression comes from wanting/needing and not thinking about consequences aka not having knowledge.>>516691261>apostate or ditch hadith.no sunnah no islam. imagine leaving the religion of God out of an inferiority complex. This is what watching stupid tv shows and idolising actors and singers does to the young mind.
>>516691626Meanwhile the very same hadith:
>>516691734>Cope on niggerharam, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mdgQmv_KoM>Moroccans here hate to have their daughters marry blacksMoroccans also drink alcohol, doesn't prove Islam allows it
if you want good read check out books about muslim slavery in africa and their conflicts with british
>>516692075Yeah, Satan is an evil disgusting foolish jester, how is this mockery of Satan unislamic?
>>516692075Man these hadith have been simply forged to make the quran look whacky cause the quran doesnt have such comicbook text
>>516692279Lol who do you think was behind Islam in the first place
>>516692035You're indoctrinated by Jewish media, all of this is made up. I've lived among Muslims most of my life while being an ex-muslim and they're generally fine people although very conservative/against globohomo. Which is what the USA used to be like until the 50s
>>516692035Islam is not a religion of peace nor a religion of violence. Islam permits violence when it is necessary to protect oneself or their dependents or others. It promotes peace through its moral system of government and society, forbidding vices and encouraging charity and helping others. Any deviant group which claims Islam and goes around killing randoms is not representative of Islam, contrary to what your regular programming through news media may claim.
>>516688404But actual muzzies aren`t laughing at pagan mythos, they sincerly hate it. Kinda deserve some respect in a knight way. Christcuлcians golems are worse. They`re laughing and hate it even more to the point of radical self-hate.
>>516691959Thanks for the video. I'm not a Muslim at all but I do find watching these developments interesting.
>>516691956"Indeed, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they ˹all˺ declined to bear it, being fearful of it. But humanity assumed it, ˹for˺ they are truly wrongful ˹to themselves˺ and ignorant ˹of the consequences˺," [33:72]Oddly enough God also castigates mankind for accepting the challenge. I don't know, i don't know...>>516692007Based Egyptianbro>>516692322Blame the Jews again and move on (unironically, the narrator himself is a Jew).
Shaytam is a jinn ,jinns cant be seen. A hadith describing what shaytan does is fabricated cause we cant see shaytan
>>516692392Naturally, we should take your anecdotal "They're not all bad" as pure gospel, despite the wider observational behavior in Islam. It speaks for itself, the religion is one of folly and to transform people into subhuman apes. >>516692448No, of course it does.
>>516692007You do realize the existance of female slaves is also in the Quran right?Also, the book of Allah, cant be understood without the context. Like the Arabic language. Why believe in the Passing down of the Arabic language but not the hadith? The Quran was passed down by the same people who passed down the hadith. So why believe one but not the other?
>>516691269dont muslim men love having little boys as sex slaves?bacha bazi I believe its called.before you say "ITS NOT TRUE ISLAM ONLY THIS COUNTRY DOES IT" tell me why they think islam permits this
>>516692503Looking at some hadith you have to sincerely ask about the people who came up with themWas it autism?
The problem is that people who follow the Quran don't even read the actual fucking text, and just hand wave all the pedophilia garbage and the call to slaughter people outside their religion, but they'll still parrot "religion of peace" as if we should actually believe that horse shit.
>>516673825I agree, jews and muslims are not my neighbors.
>>516688404Easy.https://sunnah.com/ahmad:274The black stone is not seen a holy "in and of itself." The act of touching or kissing it is simply in emulation of God's Final Prophet and Messenger, peace be upon him, without any idolatrous mumbo jumbo, as Umar in the hadith clarifies.
>>516691119No. Muslims are not hylics at all, they are so spiritual that they go through all of the material pain just for the sake of God. If you are so spiritual then why not kill yourself, if there is no punishment and the creation is evil?We fear God and hold the world as transient and not as real as the hereafter. Which is why we bear through.
>>516692575Yeah that never has sit well with me but maybe some women simply arent wife material? I like to believe everyone has the one though. Like everyone has a perfect match. After all its said that souls are made in pairs so, that would seem fair game to me
>>516671689>LOTR-esque battle"trump is heckin' voldemort." you are a faggot.
>>516692853Yeah but who or what is God, and why does he need prophets to tell us about him ever thought of that?
>>516690584If it is corrupt then the Quran which copied it is also corrupt.But if the Quran is correct then that makes the Bible correct.And if the Bible is correct the Quran is false
>>516692521Jinns are based. They are like driads or naiads in Hellas as far as I know. So according to pedophile teachings every beatiful place has it jinn, right?Museums probably full of them, operas etc, right?
>>516692561My anecdotal evidence is far more valid from Jewish psyop. I can judge Christians based on how many they've killed in iraq, afghanistan, pakistan, supporting palestinian genocide, constantly subverting and exploiting middle eastern politics and politicians etc. But I won't do that because I'm not retarded. Try living among Muslims or reading the Quran? None of the shit in this picture is even true lmao>>516692575https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVCZ4FjYL0gturn on captions for english translation
>>516689240Getting sick is a negation of Prophethood...? I think you don't understand what magic is. Your first two posts were disappointing. I won't be responding to the rest.
>>516692670They dont think it permits it, its degeneracy in Afghanistan that is punished by the taliban
>>516692842There's less bacteria on the toilet seat than the alleged holy black stone>>516692768Man, how would the Muslim world find its way without these hadiths and scholars to teach us about our religion.https://youtu.be/QHoJRoJNKI0?si=FY2TDj4krm86KhtM&t=206
>>516692975>None of this shit in this picture is even true Of course it isn't, that's why the nations of Islam are such great places to live. For some reason, all their slaughtering of each other is just as "psyop" and actually not true at all. They truly are a peaceful and enlightened people as ordained by their religion. There's no statistics to look up with even the most cursory of searches on the internet.
>>516692957He is the Almighty Lord who tests us whether we are good to give us what we deserveIts a hard test and only prophets are sent, God doesnt hold your hand, you have to prove you are goodIts a hardcore simulation so to say
>>516693328Yeah i noticed its hard
>>516692561No evidence provided. You can cherry-pick out of context verses and generalize them and read your own interpretation into anything. Give a valid source for your claims rather than your own opinions. God is with the truthful.
>>516692521>>516692768The devil has attributes and characteristics. The believer must distance himself from him and try to emulate the pious. Whenever people idolise someone, they start copying them. When justin bieber or whatever celeb was a big deal you and many others try to copy his style or distance yourself from him, why?
>>516693174Nice vid. I like the way he's thinking
>>516693253Again, why are they slaughtering each other? Before 1948 we were all occupied by the British/French and the middle east was far more safe to live in for christians and jews than the west with its constant tension and wars. After 1948, you Christians supported zionists and it only grew worse from there, false flagging, subverting, exploiting and mass controlling masses through media, bribes and corruption. You killed Gaddafi and Saddam who were trying to unite the nation. Israel is the perpetrator of all major wars in the middle east and you've put boots on ground countless times for the sake of the Israeli lobby.
>>516692970The Quran copied nothingAnd if the Quran is correct, that means there was a revelatory text given directly to Jesus, not at all the gospels of Luke and John etc, that which your bible consists ofJesus preached from a real book and that is the real Injeel, not your new testament
>>516674207>Christianity with its slave morality brought in jews and niggersThen why did they come only just now, after hundreds and hundreds of years? Why not much earlier? You blame Christianity when you know it wasn't real Christians pushing for migrants to come into our country en masse.
>>516693174Thank you for admitting the truth is with Islam.
>>516671689guy was an npc, if he ever existed. same as jesus christ. people with divine contact arent misled by divinity. or rather, when its attempted, they dont fall for it. thats what the whole skill check is.. and both those niggers failed. monotheism, for one. celebrating fake people, fake holidays, events that never even happened? textbook npc
>>516693449So honestly, according to your gnostic beliefs, what is the reason to not commit suicide, if all this creation is so evil anyway, wouldnt you just free your soul from the matter
>>516693533Satan walks with one shoe? That's news to me
>>516693575Here's another gem. Talking cows!https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3471Man, all these Dutch flags are confusing me.
>>516693658Then why did Christians lose against the jews and have them take over?With Islam, its not possible, because the believers hold the religion, no matter how much Arab tyrants are installed and how poor we are
>>516671689Nigger
pretty much everyone just ignore my posts and throw more fuel at the firesad
>>516693808>https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3471Lol. Reminds me of the stone which ran away with Moses' cloths https://sunnah.com/bukhari:278>Man, all these Dutch flags are confusing me.Honestly I suspect this guy >>516693756 and OP are the same person. Using the exact same argument>>516693886Islamic countries were colonised by the Europeans though
>>516693886Well i hope muslims win soon so i can see if its better than this cause the currenr world is absolutely unbearable
>>516694011It truly is bro
>>516693788Some scholars have reported this, either it distorts the normal appearance and may be a sign of madness. It's known that the devil and the evil jinn love these kind of weird things, those who deal with them, the people who do sihr 'magic' love it too. Someone may find it amusing and stumble on their path
>>516693756the loosh i bet. if their paradigm is correct, getting looshed is an inevitability. but atleast they, in their minds, they can smug wojak in satisfaction that its delayed as long possible, even though theres billions of africans just like them who are dying every day. yeah, it makes no sense. gnosticism is jewish after all. just jewish knockoff platonism, but gay and evil. but really that is true of all abrahamic (jewish) religions, just in different respects. all of its downstream from the one the religion, and people with zero aptitude for it attempting to misappropriate for their own benefit at the expense of others
>>516693997Colonised economically, but not ideologically. That is the real loss
>>516694253You might want to take it up with the Quranists here, who say Jewish stories crept into Islam
>>516691245Are somalis marrying bosnian women or swedish women
>>516693658I think Christianity is self destructive, you cannot possibly defend yourself against your enemy when the Lord orders you to love your enemy and turn the other cheek. Christian submissiveness is now ingrained into the white race after thousands of years of adopting its morals. As to why it hasn't happened before, either too many factors had to be in place or some Jew put these tolerant verses which turned Christians into their current lamb state over the centuries.
>>516694357Some are yes, what's your objection?
>>516694296They are kafirs who are not worthy to try and convince, only Allah can save them
>>516694441You can have an objection, namely that you want to preserve your own phenotypeIts not an Islamic objection, but the objection is permitted in Islam
>>516694467It's amazing how much you claim to hate Jews while adopting so many of their beliefs. When do i get my foreskin back btw?
>>516694574Again, why then should I chose Islam over ideologies who are more strict on this.
>>516694587Like Israelite prophets are not in the QuranYou dont even have Shariah, you cant even have an Islamic stateJews are laughing at you
>>516694704Race-mixing is one of the greatest sins you can commit in Islam. It's spitting on the creation of God. Don't listen to cucks like >>516694718 who defend it because his Moroccan ass wants a white Nordic girl.
>>516694704Because those ideologies are self defeating, while Islam is a holistic system that can sustain itselfOther ideologies are either slave morality or master morality, Islam is the only ine who has a unique enlightened morality
