what's so different about both of them?I get it if you want to defend your cunt against russia if you're baltic or finland (and maybe poland)it's like mexico invading guatemalaas a guatemalan your quality of life won't change that much if mexico decided to install a random puppet as your presidentis 100.000+ dead & refugee that won't ever come back home (nuking your demographic) really worth the trouble?
>>516791803>what's so different about both of them?We're Finno-ugrics and they're khazars.
>>516791803Would you welcome the Chinese invading and occupying your country? All of you slant-eyes are all the same anyhow, are you not? So what's the difference anyway?
>>516791805whats the point if another country annex your country? Nothing would change for common people
>>516791805we don't even use the same alphabet and never part of the same empirewe're the russian in most part of our history>>516791806do you want to go back?
>>516791806I guess you'd be fine with Libyans taking over the government in your country then?
>>516791803Da, da, da. I agree that the Oinkkkrainians and Russians are blood brothers. Stop resist and welcome your liberators )))))
>>516791808libyans are too primitive. russians are more civilized than ukrainians. i wouldbe fine if any of italys land neighbout annexed my country though
Hilo HIVan
>>516791807>we don't even use the same alphabet and never part of the same empireEurope has 2 main alphabetic systems, both of which originate from Greek anyway. And most of the countries were part of one empire or another in the past too. So what? >we're the russian in most part of our historyNo
Why did Americans rebel against Brits? They were basically the same peopleEtc etc.
Ukrainians are a fake nation and a communist-Jewish creation, I don't understand at all how it is possible that they are so brainwashed that they have a motive for going to a suicidal war and what do they think will happen at the end of the rainbow, that if they win the war (which is impossible) that they will have a standard like Germany by some magic?
>>516791813taxation, basically
>>516791814and the outcome is the same with much less deaththey have the change to be belarus or even kazakhtan if they weren't so hostile against russia in most of their post soviet history
>>516791812your ethic identity & even language is just a variation of russian one>Nopoint out why not then
>>516791803russians are asiatics and ukrainians are jews
>>516791816>they have the change to be belarus or even kazakhtanThe limit of thirdie imagination>if they weren't so hostile against russia in most of their post soviet historyhttps://kiis.com.ua/?lang=eng&cat=reports&id=1446
>>516791803All true. The rational choice would have been to just surrender but effectively this helps Germany so I'm not protesting it..it's good that someone else goes to kill russians without me having to risk myself.In the case of Taiwan though, where I'm not personally affected, I hope that they are smart enough not to destroy themselves to fight the usa's proxy war
>>516791819it's called being realisticeu & america didn't even want to touch you like they did with poland beforebecause the whole world know you're part of russian sphere of influence whether you like it or not
>>516791817>your ethic identity & even language is just a variation of russian oneNo?>point out why not thenConsult the following sourcehttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLh9mgdi4rNewfxO7LhBoz_1Mx1MaO6sw_
>>516791821>it's called being realisticNo, it's just a thirdie mindset. The russians are not entitled to a sphere of influence, just because they exist. >because the whole world know you're part of russian sphere of influence whether you like it or notWell, the russians spend every waking moment since 1991 trying to make that reality, but the only thing they did achieve, was the complete opposite
>>516791816You are delusional. What hostility? Do you even know anything about Tuzla incident, trade wars, Kharkiv accords, etc? No.
>>516791821>>516791820Grow a spine you cucked cowards. Nothing worthwile on this gay earth can exist without some form of bloodshed
>>516791803Tigers.
>>215100025pyззкiй - ґлaз yзкiй
>>215100388Diaspora or Nigor VPN?
>>516791827>pyззкiй - ґлaз yзкiйNice self-projection.
>>516791804Stop calling us subhumans
>>516791830I once saw a video of Ukrainians yelling to Russians to "go back to Finland"
>>516791829pidorashka please
>>516791828Known katsap diasporoid
>Just let people bigger than you have their way, it's not worth it>self determination isn't worth the trouble. Just do what you're toldVery bug mentality
>>516791833Sucks for Denmark
>>516791832I think i a just to western but i don’t get what you want to say with this pic
>>215100500>>516791831Seems like an undeserved compliment
>>516791821Being realistic is acknowledging that Putin can’t even conquer all of Donetsk in three years. Where the Russian army does advance it leaves a trail of complete and utter destruction or they bring in fucking Churka settlers like Mariupol, it’s no wonder most Ukrainians don’t want to live under Russian domination. Luckily they won’t have to.
>>215100665>Ukrainians insult Russians by saying that Russians are not subhumans>somehow I am now ownedRight
>the danish flag schizo successfully derailed the thread
>>215100846*smooooooch*
>>516791803Imagine you're Guatemala, aligning with America but Mexico tries to make you its bitch
>>215100846Are you ok you schizo faggot
>>516791803Let me answer this, in case it's a real question. It's because the only thing shittier than being a russian is being a russian vassal state
>>215100783I’m not NAFO but at least they have some teeth left to get smashed in unlike you. Nobody wants your shitty mafia gas station country to rule over them, Ivan.
>>215101073How is this difficult to understand, you fucking retard? Russia is an inferior shithole. Why would I care what Ukrainians say
>>516791810>russians are more civilized
>>215101073>for their admixture with Finns and BaltsThat's pure Battle-Axe Corded ware, original PIE+WHG
>>516791804this unironically
>>215101289>Ukraine is in a 10x worse than RussiaAnd who's fault is that? Lmao why are you so mad hivan :D
>>516791803Are indonesian VPNs that cheap? I cant imagine creating threads about Vietnam or other distant countries.In short, Kiev is the mother of russian cities. Without the khokhols, russia will become a barbaric asian country like yours.
>>215101531I'm pretty sure the war is still going on. And do you seriously expect anyone to take your advice on professional settings when you're a seething schizo? Holy shit you're delusional
>>215101850Seethe more
>>516791850>And who's fault is that?ukrainians
>>215100025>>215100163>>215100388See you on the front lines sasha
>>516791803But if you become an annexed territory or vassal state you will have to be on their side in all of their wars after that and I think there will be more wars soon
>>516791803Ukrainians are completely white, and Russians are a horde of Mongoloid demons.
>>516791803They are all the same, no one cares about the civil war among the Sl*vs.
>>516791857So true
>>516791803Russians are humans and Ukrainians are pigs.
>>516791858You're a chinkcel, btw.
>>516791803you don't get it because you're a spineless cuck
>>215104000the irony is that neither my mother nor my sister will even feel your microscopic rice dick, lmao.
>>516791863Kek
nafoids try not to hit report button at every post you disagree with: the challengeLMAO
>>516791865See in you in the Cube, HIVan.
>>516791866oink oink sooey sooey piggie piggie
If you support the Ukrainian regime you're an immoral piece of coward chicken shityou deserve vanning by TCC and obligatory sent to the front
buck buck buck baawwwk bu-GAAWWWWKarticle 5 bros when?
Amazing pol thread good job moods
>>516791803Ukraine doesn't want to be conquered by a corrupt authortarian shithole. It's that simple really
>>516791814>Ukrainians are a fake nation and a communist-Jewish creationGo back >>>/pol/
>>516791865Ywnbaw, tankie
>>516791871>>516791872Ukraine is a literal dictatorship atm unlike Russia, why are you comically evil and lying on the internet?
>>516791803One is ruled by Khazarian Jews and other by Russian SlavsSimple as
>>516791873>tankielmao. You need to get your teeth smashed in nafo fella
>>516791874>why are you comically evil and lying on the internet?Why are you accusing others of what you're guilty of? Russian federation is a dictatorship under Vladimir Putin. Political opponents are arrested and killed in Russia. Ukraine is a democracy. If you're going to support Russia at least be honest
>>516791876>You need to get your teeth smashed inOooooh look out, tankiefaggot is acting the hard man xD
>>516791814>that they will have a standard like Germany by some magic?They hope for western support + $300 bn of russian assets. Problem is that Ukraine is kind of big country to survive just on that money so Zelensky actively working on reducing ukrainian population
>>516791877>Ukraine is a democracywhere is this democracy? 10 opposition parties banned, very democratic indeed. Donbass and Crimea excluded from elections. 1 state authorized TV channel, media censorship through the roofWhat "democracy" are you even blabbering about retard?
Church persecuted, TCC manhunts on the street of meat"Democracy" and "freedom" in action m'ladies and gents
>Church persecutedyou mean the kgb controlled entity that got subverted 80 years ago by stalin whose patriarch is a former communist kgb agent?
Zelenskyiv even attempted fucking with le "anti corruption agencies" and got burnt because he hurt his western sponsorsdictatorship A-OK only as long as loyal to Wall Street
>>516791844>It's because the only thing shittier than being a russian is being a russian vassal stateMaybe prior 2022Since then Ukraine managed to prove there are still ways to be shittier than RF
>>516791882Imagine crying for this heresy
>>516791885Your country is literally satan,keep hating on republicans for promoting healthy values in in society lmaonobody wants your fag and troon garbage belonging in hell together with you
>>516791880>10 opposition parties bannedYeah pro-Russia parties>Donbass and Crimea excluded from elections.They're under Russian occupation you brainlet >1 state authorized TV channelSo like Russia then?> media censorship through the roofLol in Russia you can't even call the war a "war," you have to call it a "special military operation."Get your facts straight before you start pushing Kremlin talking points
Russians have a much higher per capita GDP the Ukrainians just think the EU will magically make them rich
>>516791885russian church is an emberassement to christianity
>>516791881>Muh church persecution Only churches linked to the Russian state. Orthodox Christianity is the most popular religion in Ukraine and many AFU soldiers are Orthodox Christian
>>516791887how convenient every opposition is "le pro Russian"sounds like dictatorship would actalso Zelensky was voted in and Porkoshenko kicked out on a pro peace basis>So like Russia then?the fuck are you blabbering about? there is only 1 tv channel in Oinkraine>Kremlin talking pointsironic that nafoids are fighting le supposed authoritarianism with a literal NK tier totalitarian dictatorshipseems like you don't really stand for the values you claim to uphold, unless convenient in some geopolitical contextI am vomit
>Why does Ukraine fight?Because RuSSia is the worst place in the world. Even Ukraine is better (without Putin's slaves). End of story
>>516791891>how convenient every opposition is "le pro Russian"Almost as if Russia has been trying to politically subvert it's neighbours for years now. Let me guess, that's evil NATO imperialist propaganda?>the fuck are you blabbering about? All media in Russia is controlled by the state>ironic that nafoids are fighting le supposed authoritarianism with a literal NK tier totalitarian dictatorshipNorth Korea is literally fighting on the side of Russia you absolute retard. You ziggers are the biggest idiots on the internet, Jesus Christ >seems like you don't really stand for the values you claim to uphold,I believe that countries should be able to defend themselves from murderous terrorist regimes, just as Ukraine is defending itself from Russia
>>516791893>subvertGayto is subverting a ton of countries all over the planet through NGOs such as USAID, Open Society Foundation. funded by the likes of Soros>controlled by the statenoand even if this was the case, how would you even justify the Ukrainian gov with its literal totalitarian control>NK fighting alongside RussiaRussia never claimed to be a champion of le freedumb and democracy>murderous terrorist regimesgood I hope you condemn Israel as well beside the Ukrainian terrorist regime, bet you don't lmao and gonna spam a bunch of lame excuses why they for exceptionalist reasons are allowed to obliterate Palestinians in Gaza
>>516791803The US state department subverted the last actual Ukrainian election (Victoria Nuland, Geoffrey Pyatt, John McCain directly involved in le maidan).Everything Russia has done is a response.
>>516791888After the so-called Soviet ‘friendship’, Poland was poorer than Ukraine. When Poland broke free or rather when Russia, meaning the USSR, fell flat on its stupid face after trying to match the US militarily we managed to catch up with countries like Portugal. Who knows, maybe in the future we’ll catch up with others, but that’s difficult. People who live far from Russia won’t understand this, because they’ve only ever seen Russia in a James Bond movie.
>>516791895No, we didn't and the US government is not competent enough to do it. Russia is just a shitty country and nobody wants to be a part of it.Even if it was true, Russia has no right to kill people in response. Russia is a very violent country with bad leadership.
>>516791893>I believe that countries should be able to defend themselves from murderous terrorist regimes, just as Ukraine is defending itself from Russiaits nice of you to put it that way when you hold the gun to the back of the heads of the Ukrainian males
>>516791892>Why does Ukraine fight?Because the nazi Kievan regime kidnaps ukrainian males from streets and sends them to trenches.
>>516791898The big bad west can't even deploy a humvee into ukraine.
>>516791897>not competent enoughDo you not know our history of regime change for the past 100 years?Even Iran had a democratically elected president before we installed the Shah and deservedly got a hostile state 20 years later.
>>516791877>Ukraine is a democracy.
>>516791877 #>Ukraine is a democracy>Become more popular politician than Zelensky>Claim you're balloting to next elections>Oops you're geting arrested
Interesting why Ukrainian politicians flee from so-called democracy
>>516791897The fact is that the US agreed not to interfere with countries bordering Russia and not expand NATO in the late 90s/early 2000s.The US is the violent country for weaponizing all of these countries especially Ukraine for the goal of antagonizing Russia because neocon warhawks think the cold war never ended. Also the defense contractors only get rich by selling weapons to countries like these.
>>516791905Leave my country. Go back where you belong. You clearly aren't happy with Christianity or Americans
>>516791803cold war propaganda has done a number of boomers and seemingly many younger people here as well, the ultimate culmination of "me good, you bad"
>>516791906>america>ChristianIt's satanic.
How much are ziggers paid to shitpost here, btw? Or is it just a way to avoid the frontlines?
>>516791906>you can't criticize our foreign policy, it's unamerican to have your own opinions!I was born here with ancestors going back to the 1700s I'm just not interested in funding foreign wars so sadistic people can here can think they're "winning" some war all the time.Also Christianity? Where did I mention that it's not Christian to ship weapons for profit to escalate conflicts, that's literally demonic.
>>516791905>The fact is that the US agreed not to interfere with countries bordering Russia and not expand NATO in the late 90s/early 2000s.There were never such an agreement. Not on paper, not even verbally. There was talks of such a deal when East-Germany was joining West-Germany, but Gorbatshov probably thought he was in a position to make a better deal so nothing was put on paper yet. And then SU collapsed.To this day pro-russian propaganda repeats a lie that such a deal existed at any point. Which is outright comical when you take into account that Russian Federation doesn't respect its actually existing deals any better.
>>516791909Victoria Nuland looks like a fat pig, I would love to watch her burn alive over a bonfireher melting deposits of fat seeping through her ghoulish skinsatanic jew witch doing everything in her power to ignite Russia-Ukraine conflict because she is butthurt about her Pale of Settlement ancestors
Honestly Putin is a shitty leader and I wouldn't want him as my President. Putin is running Russia into the ground and has gotten thousands of his soldiers killed with no success. In return, thousands more Russians have left for Turkey and the west.
>>516791902>>516791903Shouldn't you be at the front?
>>516791911Regardless Putin even talked to Clinton about joining NATO in 2000 so initially there was no need to antagonize Russia. The whole point of NATO was to fight the Soviets and after it collapsed it became a way to turn the former eastern bloc against Russia.To think that wouldn't end in conflict is ridiculous, even now the US is threatening Venezuela which doesn't even share a border just for not being aligned with us it's hypocritical to say the least.
>>516791898>Ukraine, a country fighting for its survival, has mandatory military service What's your point?
>>516791803theres literally no difference between themboth are mistery meat subhuman slav(es)
>>516791916>it's alright to kidnap people from the streets and send them to the meatgrinder to die for western neo-vaginasHowling.
>>516791894NATO is a defense alliance, it has nothing to do with NGOs , USAID, Soros etc. You really have no idea what you're talking about, just parroting zigger talking points >noYes, last time I checked the likes of RT is run by the Russian government >Russia never claimed to be a champion of le freedumb and democracyRussia does claim to have fair elections which is a joke considering Putin is dictator > I hope you condemn Israel as wellThere it is, typical brownoid mentioning Gaza for no reason. Israel is fighting terrorists in Gaza, that's completely different to Russia illegally invading Ukraine unprovoked >allowed to obliterate Palestinians in GazaIDF is saving so called Palestinians from the Hamas terrorist regime
>>516791916kidnappers go boom
>>516791918>die for western neo-vaginasThey're fighting to defend their country. Those retarded arguments might work on /pol/ but they don't work here. And again, shouldn't you be at the front?
>>516791920>can't answer the question Pathetic
>>516791921>They're fighting to defend their countryShouldn't it be voluntarily?>shouldn't you be at the front?No, I'm not urinian.
>>516791922where's the (you)?
>>516791923>Shouldn't it be voluntarily?During the world wars people were conscripted to fight. Ukrainians don't have a choice, it's either fight or lose their country
>>516791922Also my own answer would be that if it was that important to the people they would do it themselves instead of fleeing the country or being kidnapped.https://x.com/anatoliisharii/status/1957784543395520798
>>516791925What about human rights?
>>516791803Between us and East Ukrainians — almost no difference. Western Ukrainians from Galicia have been ruled by Poles and Germans most of their history, are more nationalistic and don't speak Russian.
>What about human rights?BABAOOEY
>>516791925>lose their countryas I said, there's nothing to lose
>>516791929Whis idea is this video supposed to convey?
>>516791931its just funny a russian is talking about human rights like he's a human when youre just cattle for your oligarchs your lives exist as entertainment for muslims when they kill you and your childrenAlso dont forget your entire existence as a nation was built on conscripting useless slavoids to die for their mongol and churka masters
>>516791932>tf>tpYour entire nation exists as a bunch of toilets lickers, ass washers and prostitutes for your western masters doe.
>>516791805Bit China is fundamentally different than us. Ukraine and Russia are however the same fucking shithole
>>516791803
>>516791874If the difference between the two is that one elected a Jewish comedian and was run by gay Western NGOs and the other one is a properly sovereign state, who am I supposed to respect more?Ah I don't care, just buy more non-Russian LNG : )
>>516791803>what's so different about both of them?hiv prevalence
>>516791803Russians are Northern Europeans and Ukrainians are Slavic Gypsy Turks
>>516791803Hi /int/
Realistically no less than half of Ukraine residents are Russians (though a lot nowadays mentally training to be Ukrainians). Also this is the reason why all the stuff is happening.
>>516791807polan flag is other way vpn bro
>>516791804Ivan, YES!
Russians are retarded sheep. (coming from an ethnic Russian)Hohols are fucking strong. Hohols embody what Russians are culturally supposed to be while actual Russians keep ruminating on their delusions of superiority
>>516791803There was nothing different before the war, both bydlo niggers. However now ukraine has forged an identity, not russian and not soviet.Simple but brutal
>>516798481I thought your people looked like eskimos
>>516799997Maccaco sounds
>>516791903>>Oops you're geting arrestedoh my god nigger you're so fucking retardedstudy Arestovich first before stating anything
>>516791803There are ten million examples currently and through history of Russians going “I want that”. Greedy bellies. Ukraine has pretty much never threatened anyone with occupation other than Russia in response.
this is obvious from this thread, we need to nuke denmark
>>516791803Is because the are so much alike they hate each other
>>516800159nothing wrong with eskimos
>>516800640agreedhow dare they cuddle in their woollen socks before their fireplaces on their Ikea couches while the rest of the world is stuggling
>>516800342>you're so fucking retarded>study ArestovichLOL
>>516800640i second this not because i hate denmark, im just mad. also fuck niggers
The simplest explanation I can give is:>Russians are annoying, but at least they come to spend money.>Ukrainians are a million billion times more annoying and they come to TAKE money.Why can't they both just fuck off?? Fuck you Petr Pavel you crypto-kike nigger.
>>516800342>study ArestovichAre you an imbecile?
>>516799692Funny to hear a gypsy call anyone else "bydlo">now ukraine has forged an identityYeah, the identity of "DEAD".>>516791919>NATO is a defense allianceKeep repeating that and the rest of the world might start believing you, anglokike.
>>516791803>what's so different about both of them?Ambitions of the powerful people. Ukraine is smaller and their leaders are notably less ambitious. Ukraine doesn't have the goal of reestablishing their power projection. If if was as big as russia - it would. Size matters greatly and the inability to properly rule the shittier regions stems from it. Ukraine's poor regions are a bit of shitholes, russian poor regions are unimaginably depressing wastelands. Ukraine's corruption is omnipresent and annoying.Russian corruption is a full blown religion.That all said there is literally one event where everything stems from in modern history after the soviet union broke down. Russia had their constitution changed to give more power to the presidentBelarus had their constitution changed to give more power to the president to much joy of the population (Luka was REALLY popular that time)There was a controversy about a murder of some journalist in Ukraine causing much outcry and amendments were passed that weakened the president and transferred more power to parliament (e.g. parliament got the power to nominate the Prime Minister, etc.). Then Yanukovych overturned the 2004 amendments, restoring more presidential power in 2010. But after Euromaidan the 2004 amendments were reinstated. And due to it all instead of a full blown hierarchy there is some ACTUAL politics possible in Ukraine. It's not by choice, it's not because they are somehow fundamentally different and free. Just due to sheer luck the system of checks and balances wasn't completely broken preventing executive branch from continuing to take more and more power as the years went by.Tl/drUkranians rotate people. Literally everything else stems from there.
>>516791803It doesn't matter what is different. What matters is that you're not getting past the perpetual lies coming from the state on both sides. We don't hear about the lies coming from the Ukraine much, but the reality is that the Ukraine was a focal point for criminal Internet activities for years. People don't change overnight.Do what you do for your own reasons. I'm not inclined to believe that any European state is going to be honest with us. They just want the Daddy Warbucks super weapons. Years of the giggle-faggot liberals spying on people who trusted us not to backdoor our computers has earned us distrust but here we are now. Start talking or don't.
>>516791875putin is in fact half volga-finn half jewish which is obvious when looking at his racial traits; the only slavic blood he ever had was in his matzaso in terms of being headed by slavs both tie at zero percent
>>516791803Are you colorblind, violinist? Can't you tell the difference between yellow-blue and red-blue-white?
>>516802595Nice one. Though that nigga doesnt even know how many sit ups he should do.
>>516791899looks staged af.
>>516803846If you heard the sound, you wouldnt think so.
>>516803846It's not. They were bragging about catching uhylyants
>>516791803Allcuminallah all 4'5 Indonesian qties loves BWC and the 5'0 (tallest for a male in Indonesia) are mad about that >>516791804>>516791805Lol shut the fuck up snowniggers nobody y'all the same shit dying for nothing being soon replaced by nigs, jeets and other sandnigs >ohhh naha rodina ukraina blah blah blah heil pink bandera slava ukraini gayorgy slava we will win>oohhhh muh mama rossiya the queen of the streets sucking all the dicks we big and strong ha ha cyka blyat rush b we take kiev in 2 weeksSuck my dick to calm down and shut the fuck up faggots
>>516805155>uhylyantsIm a bit on kek mode abut the word. Sounds like some alien species hunted by government agents. You know, like a vortigaunt in Half-Life 2.
>>516806009Lmao
>>516791803one is used to destroy another.read about britain advocating for the rights of "gibraltarians" the last 100 years and put two and two together. The trick is very old. Nothing has changed in the last millennium, our country is big and everyone wants to take it apart, always has.
>>516806175Hищиe пидopaшьи зeмли никoмy нaхyй нe нyжны
>>516806009>>516806153>>516806175I've got some Дoктopcкaя кoлбaca for all moskals and hohols because you bark too much when you're hungry
>>516799692>identityliterally every region, every city anywhere can forge an identity, especially when outside funding helps with the forging.i can say that transylvania is a unique region with its own identity and history and therefore should be independent and any encroachment on its (territorial) identity is an act of aggression
>>516806744We all have a bunch of coins for you to steal
>>516806744What do you want for it? I don't have any cooper
>>516806844Pierogi tits I only steal hearts and virginities
>>516791803>what's so different about both of them?
>>516806436тeбe тo тoчнo нe нyжны кpыca тpycливaя, тeбe и cвoи зeмли тo нe нyжны
>>516806744>Дoктopcкaя кoлбacaNot bad. Remember its taste when you will eat the bugs, eurocuck.
>>516807620A ты чe cидишь, клaвиaтypный, poдинy ктo зaщищaть бyдeт? Heбocь yкpaдyт кpacoты Читы y вac, и вcё, пиздeц.
>>516791803>what's so differentHohols are White Slavic nation and pidorashkas are jewdeo-asiatic mongrel golem.>proof proof PROOOOOOOF16 to 1>>516808029>yкpaдyт кpacoты ЧитыБля, Лepмoнтoв в тхpeдe. A я в тpyceлях и шлeпкaх. Cyкa, кaк нeyдoбнo-тo.
