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>>516931816
Atheism is the most midwit take you can possibly have. I have more respect for agnostics. At least they aren't so arrogantly retarded.
If God appeared in front of an agnostic they would become a theist.
If God appeared in front of an atheist they would say it's a hallucination.
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>>516931816
About the same as thoughts regarding a former atheist turned Christian. It's your deeply personal religious view and spiritual journey, you shouldn't be shouting either to the rooftops on Tictock or YouTube like a fag
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He probably quit being a pastor because his congregation was smarter than him, and he couldn't answer their questions.
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>>516932043
neither christians nor atheists admit they 'know' God does or doesn't exist. It's just that saying they're atheist is a short hand way of them saying they are more of the belief that God doesn't exist than that he does exist.

>>516932089
he was just sharing truthful information that most people are unaware of. there's nothing wrong with that.
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>>516932043
> If God appeared in front of an atheist they would say it's a hallucination.
Maybe if god was to take such a trouble as to appear in front of somebody, he or she would have powers to convince the person in anything.
Until then, beings trying to convince me that god exist are the most deceitful motherfuckers there are. And not forget that what you probably believe comes from the most trustworthy people, duh.
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>>516932281
>neither christians nor atheists admit they 'know' God does or doesn't exist
One, nobody said anything about christians. We are talking theists, agnostics and atheists.
Second, Christians and all other yhiests "know" God exists. That's the definition of being a theist. You acknowledge a divine power above you.
An agnostic hasn't made their mind up, they are fence sitters. Usually they are agnostic by default because they don't think about it.
An atheist by definition does not believe in any divine power. There is the world and matter and that's all there is. At least NPC agnostics have an excuse of not thinking.
An atheist considered the option, decided "I know enough about the universe to discount the possibility of a " God"."
It's just retarded. That's why there has been this big push to try and rebrand the terms. Hoping to use semantic shift to make the retarded ideology more palatable to the semi-functioning NPC's.
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>>516932622
yeah it seems like a pretty huge coincidence that the people trying to convince everyone that god exists always have the same arguments lined up.

>my god is the real one
>my organization speaks on his behalf
>based on our interpretation, God is saying that you should give us money
>we can't MAKE you give us money, but trust us, if you don't do it, God will know.
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they know
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>>516931816
How come organized atheism is so Jewish?
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I'm just learning about Celsus: The Pantera meme comes from him (that we know of), not the Talmud.
And all we know about him is from Origen, who literally castrated himself and seems like a complete fag.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celsus
maybe there is conceptual space for christian trannyism.
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>>516932043
Atheism and agnosticism are orthogonal, agnosticism is about a metaphysical God existing being an unfalsifiable statement, while atheism is about the lack of belief in an intelligent entity central to the evolution of the Universe, whether in the past, present or future
>>516931816
This is a stupid fucking webm posted with the sole intent to make atheism look bad
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>>516933102
because jews are high iq
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>>516931816
I went to seminary and many go in as atheists. There's an honor system where they look the other way if you cheat, because it's on you. That's why you end up with so many LGBT preachers who don't know anything about the Bible.
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>>516933102
>organized atheism
the communism? well, it's another abrahamic religion, masquerading as an atheist movement.
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I would be less anti-christian if there was a church that was pro-white.
but most christians are brown. and if you say anything pro-white in your church, you will be thrown out.
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>>516933259
>because jews are high iq
Unlike leafs
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>>516931816
I wouldn't call myself a pastor (or an atheist) but I was told that I might as well be one. It gets to the point you know too much and can't make excuses anymore. It's sort of like maxing out the score on an arcade game and it resets to 0. And you realize you're worshipping a psychopathic semitic desert god, who more than likely would kill or enslave you once he sees what race you are, if he were real.
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>>516933508
There are, but reporters hunt for them, then expose them, which leads to protests that usually shutter the doors when the congregation no longer feels safe.
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>>516932043
>If God appeared in front of an atheist they would say it's a hallucination.
If multiple people see a miracle, it's on the evening news, etc. then I will believe it. Because if that's a hallucination, then everything I see is a hallucination
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>>516931816
>Implying I should care what an apostate posted by a memeflag says
KEKPOW
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>>516933678
>multiple
I should say many. And I see it myself
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Wake ne when an atheist goes after the Talmud as hard as they go after the Bible.
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>>516931816
One of the worst type of people I’ve met are former Evangelicals. They become the most annoying atheists or Catholics
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>>516932856
>its retarded to belib that there is no god
>besides the fact the only evidence of any god being real is only in religious texts
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>>516932043
Atheism and agnosticism are really two sides of the same coin. While an agnostic will say "maybe god exists" they both function the same way in their every day lives as though a god doesn't exist.
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>>516933210
>sole intent to make atheism look bad
Atheism doesn't need help.
Only a moron would hear our greatest minds say "We don't don't even understand 1% of how the universe works and decide, " Yep, no God exists. "
Try to rebrand all you want with whatever buzzwords you want. Won't stick for the same reason wokeism doesn't stick. Picrel
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>>516932043
/thread
Very true
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>>516933976
we can't fight jews if most white men are diseased with a jewish mind virus
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>>516933312
Same but never dealt with out and out atheists. Many of them were just shit heads that cared about church size and popularity. The preacher I was interning with didn’t care about me when I was having issues and completely turned his back on me once I had to drop out due to financial problems.
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>>516931816
The Church did not need to shed tears over these lost sheep, for it lost
only those who had for a long time ceased to belong to it in their inner hearts.
The difference between this new reformation and the great Reformation was that, at that time, some of the best members left the Church because of religious convictions, whereas in this new reformation only those left who had been
indifferent before and who were now influenced by political considerations.
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>>516931816
There's a zero % chance this guy was a pastor and bible scholar with SUCH a STUPID fucking argument of pro-abortion.
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>>516934034
Yeah, and It really sucks when some people break free and they go right into another retarded ideology. Like when they stop being yahwists, but then just choose to hate whites as if they did everything in the OT/NT.
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>>516934317
>a jewish mind virus
you got that right moishe.
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>>516932856
You seem to have very binary thinking. It seems that by believing that god exists, you have absolute faith that it is true.
How do you know that? Lets be real, you and I have probably seen more or less the same amount of proof. I can't be too confident in the existence of something which has about as much proof as the sasquatch.
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>>516933678
? Lots of cases of multiple people seeing miracles.

The thing with miracles, is that out of ALL of them, out of ALL the NDE experiences, out of ALL the personal divine experiences, it only takes -ONE- being real, for God to exist.
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>>516931816
in response to the clip, God himself has committed genocide and infatancide as is his right. if God tells you to kill you potential baby then you are to do it jus like abheram almost killed his son under Gods direction.

keep in mind too that the verse says God commanded the women to take a test to see if her potential affair resulted in a potential child. thats not the same as a abortion were u know for a fact you are pregnant and done under punishment,nt form God for having a affair. also if its under Gods direction you are absolved of pretty much any sin as blasphemy is the only unforgivable sin which is disobedience of God.

Scholar indeed lol , im jus a fat mexican with no college degree, if i can pick this former pastor apart anyone can. wish he qoutes those other verses he says promote abortion, rip those apart as well.
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>>516933764
I'm not trying to convince you fren. Not my job. I came here to call out people misrepresenting other people's beliefs as if they understand them.
Believe what you believe as long as you came by it honestly. You're allowed to be in denial like everyone else.
You live like a theist though and that will never change. You're only lying to yourself if you claim our an atheist. >>516934091
Exact opposite. You both function everyday as if God does exist.
>>516934066
Also wrong. Proof God exists in literally the only place you would expect to find it since God claims it's apparent to everybody. Inside you. It can't be anywhere but inside since if it's anyplace else then someone might miss it which would mar God's perfection.
When you look inside what do you find? A set of laws and rules you didn't place there.
Objective morality proves God exists. If you live like objective morality exists, and you do, then you act like a theist while larping as an atheist.
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>>516931816
He's just weak. The priesthood's attracted the weak and faggoty for a very long time, but the last six decades or so have really gone to shit.
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>>516934091
Dumb take
Atheism is the the complete rejection of God and his creation
Agnosticism merely says we dont know. It doesnt not avocate the rejection of God. As an agnostic you can accept God as the creator but he's too powerful for humans to comprehend and interfer. Agonistics just dont go to church and kiss his ass every week like a teacher's pet.
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>>516934801
>faith
you belib in something you have zero evidence for.
Zero evidence of ANY god being real.
Morals differ from person to person, and different religions have different morals.
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>>516934618
Objective morality exists, therefore a God exists. No law without a law giver.
Morality is the only difference between men and animals according to scripture and slowly science is coming to the same conclusion with admitting animals have feelings, communicate etc.
I could give tons of evidence desu, but the only real proof is simple objective morality. The fact that there are things that are always wrong and that it is an absolute requires a God. Otherwise objective morality doesn't exist.
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>>516931816
This is your typical arrogant know-it-all Fedora tipper. No way this guy was ever a pastor, maybe in his own head.
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>>516934488
there was no pro-abortion argument, he was just pointing out a contradiction in the bible

>>516934564
a lot of people don't learn wisdom when they renounce christianity, because they are seen as synonymous in our culture. I say you can not truly be "free from religion" until you become wise

>? Lots of cases of multiple people seeing miracles.
give me one convincing case
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>>516932043
Jesus was a circumcised rabbi who celebrated Passover, even though Exodus is just judeo-supremacist fiction. Kikes were never enslaved in Egypt or freed by 'Moses'.
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>>516931816
This guy has gay face
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>>516935136
but how do you solve the euthyphro dilemma, desu?
is morality independent from god (so what's the point of god) or is it entirely subjective to god?
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>>516935100
>Morals differ from person to person
>people breaking a law means it doesn't exist
(Making my point about midwits takes)
Some people are closer to being right than others. How is that different from everything else.
So raping a 3 yo isn't ALWAYS wrong?
It is? The you believe in objective morality.
It's not ALWAYS wrong? Then your lost to evil and simply trying to deceive others.
Doesn't matter to much either way. Whether your lying to yourself or to others saying objective morality doesn't exist invalidates everything else you have to say. That's why it's fun debating atheistic retards. You're point of view is so smooth brained it's ez to paint you into a corner for everyone to see.
Now sure, you'll stick around and shit up the thread a bit more, but no one who claims objective morality doesn't exist is worth talking to
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>>516931816
>noooo abortion is fine
>ignore Christ saying allowances were made to the weak Israelites
>ignore being told no murder
>ignore the Apostolic Fathers and the Didache
I hate faggots and leftists so much. They are of the devil
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>>516935316
The problem is most people are morons who will suck up every stupid idea presented on TV without question. This is how the jew has poisoned the western well of culture.
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>>516935136
Humans are a type of animal. We are the apex predator of the Earth. There is no clean separation between humans and animals because we are of this Earth.
Objective morality doesn't exist. Morality is an evolved behaviour to make animals capable of living in groups. If every wolf was a psycho then the pack would not function and they would all die. They had to evolve to behave in non selfish ways. Morality is different across places and times, even in the short span that Christianity has existed. It's clearly not Objective, because would you really treat a bantu from the Congo the same way you would treat a white woman?
The things that consistently remain morally wrong are things that would obviously be a survival detriment, like shooting your own kid in the head. There is no need for jeebus to explain this.
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>>516935323
The day you learn the difference between the tribe of Judah and the follower of Judaism you stop being a tourist.
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>>516935946
>t. 5-sense handicapped.
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>>516931816
Whatever cult that freak belonged to wasn't Christianity to begin with. No American Christian themed cult is, whether it be the evangelicals, Mormons, Baptists or Quakers. All one big American larp.
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The bible is retarded on its face. The idea that it was written or even inspired by the all-seeing, all-knowing master and creator of the Universe is so fucking stupid it hurts. If your family, or your community never positively reinforced it with comfort and ritual, and you just picked it up off the street you'd laugh your ass off trying to read it.
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>>516931816
well I didn't watch the video until now.
pretty retarded, sure.
>right to choose
there's nothing about rights in the bible. rights are a modern liberal invention. christcucks have the right to be goycattle.
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>>516935885
>rape is allowed in judaism and islam
>I think rape is wrong
>Over a billion people believe it is not wrong, and allowed by their god
>YOU belib your god is correct
>THEY belib their god is correct
you actually made my point.
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>>516936208
>t. retarded zoomer
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They all have a faggy lisp
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>>516934659
forgot reply, see previous post

>>516934801
>You live like a theist though and that will never change.
No I am a humanist. Wisdom is more ancient than stories of the sky-father. If I am going to tell my children myths, it will be the myths of my ancestors not of the jews

>>516935929
>This is how the jew has poisoned the western well of culture.
but they have used christianity as a tool to achieve this. it made the herd more docile and complacent
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>>516936208
>The bible is retarded on its face.
It adds value as a collection of stories to teach and strong recommendations on a life well lived.
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>>516935323
>Kikes were never enslaved in Egypt or freed by 'Moses

John 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?”
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>>516936208
Kek, true. I like how it focuses on Jewish tribes too, then everyone larps that we wuz the real Jews n shieet
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>>516936652
>It focuses on Jewish tribes
>Source: Jews told me so
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>>516932043
I would go as far to argue that religion is the manifestation and lack of faith in what Christ did at the cross.

Faith doesn’t require compulsory behavior because the law makes it evident that perfect behavior is impossible in this state and people who seek to emulate that are only doing it to deceive people. Which leads me to the atheists unironically using evidence for Satan to slander Jesus when the same people conspired to have him crucified.

This inability to believe puts them in a context where they can discern God from religion (because only one of them physically exists to them) but stop short of realizing that if this is the case, what exactly do you find about what Jesus did to be terrible considering what he did was free people from the oppressive religions they claim to hate. (They then unironically do a 180 and start quoting a law they don’t fucking believe in and evolve into moralists. Fucking hypocritical cunts.)


Can’t tell you how many moral relativist zombie professors did exactly that in front of me in college when going through electives like philosophy.
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>>516936743
Unlike you, I don't revere a Jewish man killed by Jews for trying to become king of the Jews as a literal deity. Seek help.
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>>516937204
t. Ahmed who worships a man who married a 9 year old
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>>516935999
Fuck your gay ass torah and nitpicking over different tribes of inbred kikes.
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>>516936455
the widespread corruption and blackmail has little to do with Christianity. It is just typical jewish criminal behavior.
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>>516931816
his first argument is
>the bible doesnt condem ending a pregnancy early and aborting your child
>it actually allows it
>quotes the old testament
>ignores murdering the unborn and writes it off as accepted and even encouraged
the OT is a bunch of jewish semetic rules that Jesus freed us from needing to follow
the guy is a tard and obviously not any type of 'bible scholar' that he proclaims
if he actually understood the bible there is more to it than the literal interpretations he's trying to cherry pick
>words have meaning no way
obviously surgically cutting unborn life from your womb is murder


>>516932281
>truthful information
he was misleading and being purposefully deceptive
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>>516937204
Yes you do, you give them credit for inventing the entirety of history.
Ultimate shabbonigger
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>>516938393
>the OT is a bunch of jewish semetic rules
how about genesis?
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>>516938393
>the OT is a bunch of jewish semetic rules that Jesus freed us from needing to follow
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>>516932043
>agnostics
Yeah because you're a genuine midwit, big surprise
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>>516931816
Shameful.
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>>516932229
It's more likely that his congregation figured out that he was a didler
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>>516936641
So why did rabbi Jeebus celebrate Passover?
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>>516938413
Subverting and parasitizing history like the Elder God from Soul Reaver isn't "inventing" it.
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>>516935449
(What's the point of God)
Why would the preexistence of morals negate a God who embodies those morals as the ideal?
Is Morality subjective to God
Not according to the Christian Faith, in fact a big point is that Satan is accusing God of not being worthy of worship because he doesn't embody the morals perfectly. By that accusation the existence of morality would be an independent factor.
Ie. Something all divine beings agree exists but not all divine beings embody.
That being said, what we call morals is more like the instruction manual.
There is a certain way things work, and if it's not done that way they don't work. That doesn't preempt God, it's more an acknowledgement of fact.
A being that is not Truth, Love, Mercy, Justice and righteous is not worthy of worship according to the divine standard.
Every accusation against God short of "he doesn't exist" is really just a thinly veiled accusation that he isn't worthy of worship by attacking one of the characteristics he claims to body.

Tldr, I don't see a dilemma. How things have to work is how things have to work. A personal God like in christianity is going to be bound by laws just like anyone else.
God can do anything that is within his character, and nothing that is not.
So God is entirely capable of destroying his creation, but he can not lie.
What is simple to us is an impossibility for him and what we consider impossible requires him no effort.
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>>516938515
there are 50 chapters in Genesis, you're going have to be a little more specific

>>516938769
if you take it as a literal interpretation and ignore the context of who is Jesus talking to, and why is he saying this I could see how it doesnt make sense to you and seems contradictory to my statement
one thing i've discovered is that the people who try the hardest to disprove the bible, end up becoming the strongest of believers
continue to question it all and get answers
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>>516939786
>Genesis
The entirety of it. Do you not belib in your religious text? Do you pick and choose what is correct?
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>>516939786
>continue to question it all and get answers
could you explain mark 14:51-52?
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>>516932043
Atheism means lack of belief in god, you retard. You don't look smart trying to redefine it. Talk about midwits.
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>>516935946
Being selfish is neither inherently immoral nor inherently antithetical to living in a group. If it was hyenas wouldn't be a top predator.
I see why you have to conflate the two because morality on its own has no inherent bearing on survival, and often results in an individual acting in ways that are detrimental to their own survival. Mercy is an excellent example.
Mercy is a moral condition and one that requires an individual to act counter to both personal experience and group survival.
Mercy is not something animals experience because they have no concept of morality and without objective morality mercy doesn't exist because mercy requires a deserved punishment.
If you're claim was true societies that adhere to the highest moral ideals would be the most successful but history shows quite clearly that is not the case.
Often it's quite the opposite, societies who are the most ruthless and selfish are often the most successful. Just look at America. Almost completely morally bankrupt yet it's the most powerful nation that currently exists.
If the only measure of morality was how successful of a society it managed to create every first world country would be considered moral.
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>>516939534
that horn of the dilemma is supposed to be: if morals are independent from god, then why would god be relevant to morals at all?
it's like saying math depends on god, but if I can show 2+2=4 on its own, then god looks like an epicycle/unnecessary.
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>>516936323
>Two religions everyone agrees are literally satanic think evil is good.
Wow, what a heckin argument anon. You sure showed me.
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>>516940751
>Billions of people belib it to be true
so no not everyone agrees
and no objective morality
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>>516931816
Numbers 5 doesn't justify abortion.

It is about dealing with jealous and is a ritual for a husband who suspects his wife is adulterous, but doesn't have evidence. The water doesn't affect the a current baby, but her future reproductive potential. It is a divine test for adultery, not a license for man-made abortion.
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>>516940780
>muh deep state
you misspelled "shitty takes getting hammered by people with brains that work"
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>>516937011
>religion is the manifestation and lack of faith in what Christ did at the cross.
This is completely correct. Christ never came to start a religion, however that doesn't mean there is nothing you need to do.
The onus is still on you to accept his sacrifice and you do that by admitting his way is right and you are wrong. You're not really saying he is right and you are wrong if you are not trying to imitate him. You can't say you accept wisdom, but then don't try to implement that wisdom. Actions speak louder than words.
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>>516937708
Literally all it takes to uncover this deception is removing one layer. That's why your still a tourist. You have accepted the cost of scrutinizing everything. You only dabble in the truth. US oldfag where crucified in it.
Picrel
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>>516940199
>you better believe every word of the whole bible or you're a fake Christian
obviously some of it is allegoric, some historic, and other parts divine

>>516940306
this is right when Jesus is being taken by the romans and a young person who was following Jesus around barely slips away after the romans grab him losing his clothing in the escape
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>>516940535
That's agnostic and always has been. Atheist is denial of the divine.
>You don't look smart trying to redefine it.
"Atheists can't meme"
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>>516939268
Yet you claim exactly that, the entire history recounted in the 4,000 year narrative of the Bible going through Sumerian, Egyptian, Babylon/Assyria, Persian, Greek, and Roman empires it what you are calling "muh Jewish tribes".
You are the biggest Jewish cheerleader, I bet you want to kill White Christians just like the kikes you claim to hate
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>>516941189
>I pick and choose what to belib in
lol ok
Jesus was caught in a public park with a young boy, then arrested, and the boy ran away. What is the significance of this? What of this is allegorical, historical, or divine?
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>>516931816
I know one personally. He was an awful preacher back when he was a pastor because he didn't actually know anything. Became an atheist in seminary to the shock of no one but his wife. Now he's a line cook in a restaurant. Great job, loser.
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>>516931816
Also Exodus 21:22-23 is the prooftext this retard former pastor missed. No wonder he apostatized. He never read his Bible.
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>>516932622
Funny how close you are to simply quoting Romans 9:15-16 lol
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>>516933627
Look up the Dunning Kruger effect
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>>516932043
Christians are brain damaged.
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>>516931816
>gayface
That’s my thoughts, and he has an entire rolodex of “troubled teens” didtilled from his former disgusting prozzie congregation that he hits up on the weekends now
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>>516940626
I see.
Let me try this way.
God is God. He is the creator. He is all powerful and he is all knowing.
That doesn't make him worthy of worship. That just makes him the creator. In fact Satan says the same thing.
If God was all powerful, but a liar, then he wouldn't be worthy of worship.
God is required because without God we have nothing but we don't worship God because he is the creator. We worship God because he is worthy of worship and we are hard wired to worship something.
Does that make sense?
He is "god" because he created everything but he is GOD because he embodies all the ideals and he could not have created everything if he didn't embody those ideals.
God isn't Loving, God is love. God isn't merciful, God is mercy. God isn't Just, God is justice. God doesn't tell the truth, he is Truth.
The ideals are independent concepts but they are independent concepts bodies by God.
Another way of viewing that delimma is like saying what the use is a hero if we know bravery exists. A concept both exists and doesn't exist until it is embodied by some force.
Schrodinger's Morals-
Mercy does not exist until it is offered, but can't be offered if no one exists to offer it.
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>>516940835
I don't require other people to tell me burning a child alive is objectively wrong and evil. That other people have been so deceived as to be convinced later in life it is ok doesn't change that. You think you haven't experienced brainwashing anon?
No un-indoctrinated individual would look at a helpless child and think killing them is ok.
And of course it's not like people never argue about things that are objectively true. Or do you think men can be women?
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>>516941646
>>I pick and choose what to belib in
>the entire human race originated from 2 people
.........obviously allegoric

>Jesus was caught in a public park with a young boy, then arrested, and the boy ran away. What is the significance of this? What of this is allegorical, historical, or divine?
yeah the man who saved us all and was voluntarily was nailed to a cross is a pedo...
lmao
what other interpretations do you have?
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>>516940780
Thanks anon. Always nice to see a bit of encouragement when under a shill brigade.
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>>516941185
You're a fake anti-semite lil bro. Worse actually, you wish you were a semite. Spiritually you are.
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>>516935885
>So raping a 3 yo isn't ALWAYS wrong?
>It is? The you believe in objective morality.
Nope. It is wrong by my moral standard, but that standard is subjective and based on unproveable axioms. The same is true of any moral system that mankind has ever invented. We can use logic and reason to help make informed decisions (e.g. a society that allows innocents to be murdered probably won't be successful so it's in everyone's collective interest to punish it), but none of this is objective.
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>>516931816
False converts.
We call 'seminary' 'cemetery' for a reason.
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>>516942863
The second you say raping 3 yo is not objectively wrong you've lost. Regardless of what ever justification or pipul you try to claim because by stating it isn't objectively wrong you acknowledge there may be a situation where it is morally ok which means it's not always wrong by your moral standard.
I don't take advice from people who can justify pedophilia. Mentally ill people do not make good advisors.
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>>516942480
I never said you did. You belib you are correct, that your god exists, and is the only/true god. Billions of people hold opposite views to that. No objective morality.
Kikes and mudslimes think its ok, sadly.
no, trannyism is kike ideology.
>>516942480
What is the significance of this? What of this is allegorical, historical, or divine?
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>>516943135
You've shutdown your brain and had an emotional feminine outburst instead of trying to engage in the discussion. Congratulations.
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>>516943135
>raping children is objectively wrong under any circumstance
You just rebuked your god and the israelites, enjoy hell.
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>>516942863
>Nope. It is wrong by my moral standard, but that standard is subjective and based on unproveable axioms.
morals were not “invented” dumbass. like the inexorable laws governing chemical reactions and equilibrium states, they emerge intrinsically from the complex interplay of human biochemistry, evolutionary pressures, and societal thermodynamics, rather than being engineered as a deliberate construct. I’d kill myself immediately if i looked in the mirror and saw your midwit face.
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>>516943324
>morals were not “invented” dumbass
>they emerge intrinsically from the complex interplay of human biochemistry, evolutionary pressures, and societal thermodynamics
...so they're invented? There no meaningful difference here. If you say morals are an inherent emerging property of human social dynamics, that just means they were collectively invented.
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>>516943526
no, they are observed.
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>>516943697
Not a mutually exclusive property. Unless you argue that humans have no free will, which is fair, then morality is invented in some sense because such complex systems do not exist outside of human societies.
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>>516942216
well, I'll have to think about that.
being worthy of worship is a different thing (nominally) to the question of objective morality (which is usually called meta-ethics), so it's not like a 'standard response' to the euthyphro dilemma. but maybe you could say moral worthiness is already assuming a kind of moral worth, like satanism or whatever.
I don't have a response really. maybe there's something there to be formalized a bit more. I don't just want to say that you're not responding the way you're supposed to, because the whole thing is basically a game.
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>>516943303
Ceasing arguing with someone who has stated pedophilia is ok isnt an outburst. It's being intelligent. We no longer have anything to discuss.
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>>516933102
Atheism is another branch of the kike philosophy. Look up the heads of large atheist organizations.

>>516933976
Then you will sleep forever
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>>516944420
I'm not responding appropriately because my wisdom was earned, not given by some church or apologetic. It came about through years of testing the truth and deep study.
It's often said they true test of how well you understand something is how well you can explain it to a fifth grader.
So how am I doing?
Here's how I see it, your delimma is based on the predication. That morals have an independent will to act. Nothing in the observable universe indicates that is true.
However across time humanity has come to agree on certain traits that are desirable outside of their ability to provide or increase.
On top of that the primary accusation laid against God according to scripture is that God was not just in his treatment of humans because he allowed us to live.
This indicates a continuation of the idea (or the originator of the idea) that morals exist independently from the Divine while still being acknowledged as immutable pre-requisites by the Divine in order to have the title God, big "G".
So they exist independently of God just as 2+2=4 long before people discovered numbers and maths.
But until they are embodied by a will they don't exist in any meaningful way.
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>>516936455
>to tell my children myths, it will be the myths of my ancestors not of the jews
Agreed anon, and the day you learn the difference between a member of the tribe of Judah and the follower of Judaism you'll be ready to enter into the next step of truth. Till then you're still a tourist here being deceived by the Jews.
The measure of a theory is it's ability to predict the future.
Picrel
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>>516931816
They aren’t intellectually up to the challenge like Catholic priests so they crash out. No art, music or tradition. No sacraments. No saints. Many such cases.
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>>516932043
i could believe in higher beings and supernatural things like a creator but it wouldnt be god to me
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>>516941938
Do not say God doesn't have a sense of humor and appreciate a bit of mocking shadenfreud.
You know God was chuckling when Elijah mocked the Baal worshippers saying, "whip harder! Cry louder! Maybe he's taking a shit and can't hear you!"
God is absolutely hilarious if you have the ear to hear.
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>>516931816
Pedos, homos or porn addiction. They leave because the bible forbids one of their vices. Rather than admitting they have a problem they’d rather deny God. I’ve never met a former Christian that didn’t have an issue that was forbidden but they refuse to repent
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>>516947457
No, most likely money is your god, or dopamine, maybe porn.
Not insulting, just playing the odds. I could just as easily be wrong.
The point is whatever you focus all your time and energy on, that's you God that you worship. Now these real world things have corresponding divine beings under them.
Believe it or not following Christ is monotheistic, but that doesn't mean pantheons are not Christian. Pantheons are 100% biblical. You worship a god, you simply don't know his real name. Tell me what you spend all your time doing and what you wish you had I can give you the name of the god you worship. It's not a secret or anything. You could Google it yourself.
Type in demon associated with "X" and go down the rabbit hole. You want have to take too many turns before you see it. And you'll know when you do. It's freaky AF. I don't know what you'll see, but you'll see your god if you look for them and youll know them when you see them.
I recommend trying the ancient beliefs, especially the connection between the annunali and hebrewism.
You will find fertile ground searching for your god's name there.
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>>516948305
my god would be romantic love, the higher good, and a civil homogenous society, however, I believe moreso in fate and natural forces like polytheist used to think
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>>516949113
>myyy gawd would be love and higher good.
1 define "good"
2. Quit lying to yourself. What do you do all day? Watch porn? Work your ass off blue collar, idolize your wife what?
If you can't be honest on an anonymous yak shearing forum why TF are you even here.
I WANNA RAPE BABIES!
See, nobody fucking cares. It's all Minecraft and shit posts anon. Why are you here if not for the truth?
Not all truths are easy to face, picrel is a perfect example. Doesn't make them less true. So tell the truth anon. What do you really worship? When you spend your day, what are you doing most the time?
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>>516931816
He is hiding his teeth because of memes about the fear smile. But he is still smiling in fear.
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>>516949845
good is when nothing bad happens and everyones content with living. specifically i just want a wife and be around europeans or east asians.
i play videogames masturbate and watch peoples pets. I cannot succeed at any higher pursuits for unknown reasons. i dont blame myself anymore
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>>516931816
Didnt this fag used to make tiktoks with a rainbow flag stole and talk about how jesus loves gays. The United Church was a mistake
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>>516932043
Your gibberish reads like how an athiest would type. Blatant, unapologetical, hypocritical.
You are an athiest.
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>>516931816
Theyre all fags
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>>516931816
He looks like a homosexual. Is thay why he became atheist ? So he can suck women penis without mr mean God saying it's bad ?
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>>516932043
To be fair, in a world of chaos and deception any sufficient technology could be used by any ill-intentioned actor to convince you they are a God of any religious flavor. And what ought someone do then? Blindly follow along, just in case? Or employ paranoia on the chance that it is trickery?

Surely any sufficiently powerful and omniscient god will see the reasons for the choices in your soul/mind, no?
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>>516931816
This faggot probably chugs cum with his butthole. I could not give less of a shit about his opinions on literally anything.
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>>516935999
Are you implying that Khazarian nonsense
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>>516931816
I have a thing about ignoring the opionons of people whose faces remind me of clowns.
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>>516931816
he has the face of a low entry level mason.
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>>516936326
Come on, he has a point
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>>516934564
I love this picture, where right part is taken from the most religious western country where 80% of people are christians, motto is about god, but claim it is atheistic world.
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>>516947044
Why is it always incoherent ramblings with you folks every single time
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>>516932622
God appeared in glory to the nation of Israel on Mt Sinai. Thunder lightning earthquakes and fire. Before that he parted the Red Sea and saved them from Egyptians. 30 days after appearing on Sinai they were worshipping a golden calf because Moses took too long with a meeting with God up on the mountain.
If God appeared to you, you’d probably just shrug it off as too much monster energy drink. A hardened heart will simply not believe.
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>>516951501
This faggot chugs cum with his butthole too.
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>>516932909
I love how athiests think the Bible was translated by secret agents with an agenda. In reality it was done by people who studied the languages involved.
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>>516932043
I was agnostic until I started noticing the jews. Covid and the vax were all the proof I needed of God, satan, and Jesus.
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>>516951501
If you are referring to current day America it is obviously a post Christian America.
80% of the people can claim they are Christian for various reasons of their own but I can give you reasons why they aren’t.
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>>516935946
>no no no there is no objective morality
>Explains objective morality
Retard

Religion describes the objective morality found in nature, and the objective reality in nature stems from order, an order imbedded into reality which was founded by the creator. Religious teaching is not arbitrary. Understand that morality is order, and order is what separates us and uplifts us from chaos.
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>>516952002
yes, as usually "no true scotsman" retard will explain to me why people praying to dead jew on a stick are not really christians, becuase he himself is from other dead jew worshiping cult.
Just KYS. YWNBsmart
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>>516952034
I have read philosophers for years, studied different cultures and religions. And then I come across some retard like you and just want to kill you for how fucking stupid you are. This is my morality - retards like you shouldn't be given free voice of their opinions they should be exterminated for the sake of humanity.
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>>516943316
Not my God, and not the Israelites Notices see that modern Jews don't call themselves Israelites. They call themselves israelies.
There is a reason for that.
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It's good. Nice to see a cloistered faithful take their first wobbly steps into the dawn
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>>516950265
Are the video games basically how you pass the time till you masterbate again? If so, meet your god. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asmodeus
"He" goes by a lot of names though. This is just the Hebrew one. Quite a few popular female personas as well.
Anyway, sounds like you worship either lust or validation or whatever it is you seek in the video game.
It's fine if your going to worship them, I think there's a better way but not my eternity.
My point is you're selling cheap. At least figure out what they are offering and demand more ffs. You where made in the image of God. You're not cheap, you are priceless!
You'll be surprised what they will pay to keep you when you realize your value. If I can't help you in the afterlife, let me help you in this one. Up your fucking price retard, you could be drowning in puss or being worshipped and you settle for a wank and beepboop.
You where HANDCRAFTED BY GOD. You were fearfully and wonderfully made. You are not cheap. Demand more.
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>>516951224
You are correct, that's why God gave us a simple test.
All you have to do when God is before is look at him and say, "You are not God." If you are physically able to do this. Then it's not God.
Beautifully simple isn't it. God's plan is literally, "Don't believe anybody. You'll know so just call everyone else a liar."
God really is wonderfully simple enough for the simplest while being profound enough to spend a lifetime of study.

Have a "you" for asking the right questions. This is how you find the truth.
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>>516951861
Noticing is the start. Now start asking. God said all who seek will find. The second you got it all figured out you've failed. You find BY seeking, ever seeking. Picking apart every detail and rejecting everything that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. God literally says this is the way to read the Bible.
You must be a lover of truth.
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>>516950265
You think I'm joking, start worshipping literally anything else, watch how quickly your fantasies become your realities as the previous receivers of your worship try to win you back.
I am 100% dead serious this is a thing. Your worship is precious for some reason. Fucking make them pay.
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>>516936208
"It seems strange to me that God, wishing to communicate his "good word" (gospels) to all men for all time should choose to do so in the ancient Greek tongue and then having chosen to do so should choose write it so badly"

Neitzche
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>>516950265
If I can't save your soul at least I can get you something approaching a real fair value for your time. They get your attention, you get your fantasies fullfilled. Not pseudo bullshit on a screen.
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>>516953111
videogames are an accessible meritocracy and wish fulfillment because i consistently fail in a worthwhile field and relationship, but atleast i experience it digitally. People like me would be killed in the wild.
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>>516932043
FPBP
TRVTH NVKE
CHRISTPILLED
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>>516953519
"It seems a shame to me that idiots still don't realize Neitche was half satire, half nihilist depression to bang emo chicks."
After literal decades of searching no discernable differences that effect doctrine or teachings have been detected between any manuscript.
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>>516932043
TRVKE
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>>516953772
The King James translation to English is the very paradigm of Elizabethan English and makes far more of the koine Greek that it is in its original. It's not equal to Thucydides or Herodotus. Can't God or some angel of god sent to whisper the holy writ into the evanglist's ear when he slept do better than them?
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>>516931816
No such thing as a Atheist.
Never seen one criticize Jews or Muslims or " Native" beliefs nor my government spending money on them. They only attack Christians .

Saw something that summed up Leftist "Christians"
They worship themselves , They only follow parts of the Bible THEY like, The word of God THEY agree with , repeat the things Jesus said the THEY feel good about.
Their church does not line up with God's teachings .
But does line up with THEY / THEM pronouns
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>>516954006
>KJV is better than the original
Fucking retarded Anglos lmao
Literally every non-Anglo in the world is laughing at you if you say shit like this
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>>516931816
My thoughts are they are failures and losers.
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>>516953834
For those wondering this is a more subtle attack against the truth.
The goal here is to associate what I am saying to someone you consider insufferable there bye lessening the impact of the truth.
In essence they are trying to strew rocks on the ground so the seeds can't take root.
It's obvious when it's lampshades like this, the bright offensive yellow which is scientifically designed to cause an visual wince, the in your faceness of it combine with the apparent "support" message is meant to send the subtle message to your mind that this person that is clearly offensive toy senses agrees with the guy so my perception of him should be guarded. "
Anyway, thanks for coming to my tedtalk.
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>>516951861
Jesus was/is an ethnic Jew and he grew up in the Jewish religion as a child before his ministry. "There is neither Jew nor Greek but all are one in Christ". You are pro-Satan and evil
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>>516931816
I guess they must have a good reason if they left
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>>516954006
I wish you to genuinely consider the following if you really want the answer to that.
It is a wildly known fact that there are hidden messages and patterns all through the Bible. This isn't up for debate if you genuinely did not know. The chances of some of these patterns is too astronomical.
The people who wrote the various pages and scripts managed to write as eloquently as they did while also being guided by God to ot screw up the hidden messages throughout scripture when viewed in its original language.
Thucydides wishes he could write as many hidden messages and meanings into his poems as God did when he guides them to use one word vs another.
Herodotus had the benefit of only focusing on one poem at a time. God did it while using dozens of men over centuries with words that he wasn't even directly picking.
This is a less well known, but easily certifiable truth about the OT in particular.
Don't compare God to your .... I don't even know what I would call them in comparison.... paramecium??? Nah, still to much comparable skill.
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>>516931816
every one of these cases eventually is revealed to be a shameful sinner electing in favor of their sin over god
and I get it. I haven't abandoned much of my sin in faith. But rare is the 'pastor' with robust biblical knowledge and understanding (extra-biblical too) that doesn't eventually turn out to be a ragging homo or pervert with dubiously convenient timing when their 'deconversion' testimony curiously becomes more honest over time. Basically, some dude gets some bussy and thinks he got it all figured out, throwing everything out because global flood or something that could equally be as significant as a parabolic narrative.

I know how presumptive it is to simply water every unbeliever as someone who just wants to sin, but then I keep seeing it, and they keep waving it around PROUDLY at their PRIDE parades. Sorry for calling a spade a spade.

For everyone else? You're a degen? Great. The Church is a hospice. The unwell need the doctor. You're in good company. Keep recognizing your sin is a wound that needs stitching and one day you'll get surgery... but you know... socialized medicine is slow and all that. Or something.
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>>516954259
When you learn the difference between the tribe of Judah, and the religion of Judaism you will be a resident. Till then you're still a tourist.
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>>516931816
Protestantism has always been the religion of faggots
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>>516931816
ok after listening to this I have to say, this has nothing to do with a woman's right to choose to kill her baby, it sounds more like the mans right to undergo a dubious procedure that is supposed to kill the child if the woman was unfaithful
which even if that worked 100% of the time, would not give the woman any right to choose
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>>516931816
>thoughts on former pastors who are now atheists?

I'd say the opinion of someone who's sense of conviction oscillates to such extremes is generally unreliable. If you went so hard into theism that you became a pastor; but then lost your conviction and went so far in the opposite direction that you become an atheist then I don't think you're making sound reasoned judgements and you're acting on impulse.
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>>516931816
Pastors who are now atheists became pastors as they were gay
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>>516941189
>obviously
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>>516935999
Checked and does anyone know the date on this post
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>>516931816
This guys describes numbers 5:12 which doesn't mention a miscarriage just the woman's bowls to swell.
If she is innocent then she can conceive suggesting she would not otherwise.

This doesn't describe abortion not endorse it under any circumstance

Enoch which is apocryphal but valid says to teach women to smite the children in the womb without shame is a great sin.
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>>516931816
Nonce physiognomy
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>>516931816
Don't care at all. "pastors" and all variety of Western cults are homosexual jewish gatherings larping as Christians. So do meme flags apart the larp part.
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>>516931816
former non drug user here, now i'm a drug user. no, teetotalers the food pyramid doesn't say that.
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>>516933976
reminder that trannies specifically target christianity too. that's because they're demon possessed and demons fucking hate christ. never heard a tranny whining about judaism or hinduism or islam even though that's the one that throws them off the roof.
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>>516933627
see most posts from faggots like you are angry at god, rather than denying his existence as you claim.
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>>516932622
Nope, God gave us very clear instructions on how to find false Christ's.
It's really simple. Just try to say, "That's not Christ." If you can then it's not Christ.
Yeah, God rolls like that. Answer for problem. He literally just said assume everyone is lying, when it's me you won't be able to say it's not.
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>>516956236
>Weird non christian magical thinking

This guy is from Kentucky
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>>516936652
The day you realize the Jews lies to you about what Jew means all of /pol/ becomes your oyster, until then you remain an obvious reddit refugee.
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>>516931816
>Lifting things out of context and making false equivalences
Capital R Retarded.
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>>516942709
This is hard, because you're wrong but explaining why opens up a whole 'nother line of questioning that while important to answer is not the focus of tonight.
I'll leave it at this, see picrel
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>>516943234
It doesn't matter what people "believe". You can "believe" you a woman. You still havean hands, man shoulders and a man's face. When you die they will put a man's name on your tombstone. That's why it's called deadnaming. Cause it's the name they put on the grave when you die.
All the belief in the world doesn't change something that is true.
And either it is true, or it is NOT true that raping a 3 yo is ALWAYS wrong.
It really is that simple.
If you agree it is always wrong you can babble all you want but you live like a theist.
If you disagree then you and I are so far apart on world view that no further discussion is needed. We can agree to part amicably.
Some truths are just too harsh for people to accept. I bet picrel is one of those for you.
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>>516931816
>thoughts on former pastors who are now atheists?
Ones journey through faith is rarely a straight line. It's a shame he didn't truly appreciate the word when he was preaching. Can you imagine a more depressing existence?
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>>516938393
>the OT is a bunch of jewish semetic rules that Jesus freed us from needing to follow

17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
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>>516951085
>Blatant, unapologetical,
Yes!
>hypocritical
So close. Nothing hypocritical about me. I'm the worst out of all of us here. I didn't come to Christ because everything was going well.
My evil is so blatant that it was easy for me to recognize it's effect that's all. Why shouldn't I use my spotlight to help those with little candles see the world around them for what it really is?
Is it hypocritical for the person standing on the shore to help the drowning person?
It is only the fact that they have one foot on form ground that they can be of any use to the drowning person at all.
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>>516932043
>be me
>tested 134iq
>also, an atheist
Get rekt retard.
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>>516957233
He became a pastor to be accepted by people because of his weird mouth palsy. It didn't work out for him how he wanted
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>>516957799
Why are people who come to /pol/ obsessed with lying about IQ?

As a genuine, actually tested 124 it makes me sick that you think you can pretend to be higher than a level I never organically encounter in the world. You're like a horse wearing a suit jacket.
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>>516932043
Schizotypal disorder: the post
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>>516957886
Uh huh.
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>>516953700
What do you determine "worthwhile". Have you considered your chosen? God's chosen can't succeed at anything they try at that isn't associated with God.
Let me make a guess. You have had multiple opportunities to fulfill your deepest desires but always pulled back at the last second?
Like more chances than a typical person SHOULD get to indulge but either you didn't recognize the opportunity at the time or you stopped before taking that last real step.
Now you've settled into a dead life, unable to rest but unable to move. Delivering regular dopamine hits at times intervals waiting for something...
Sound about right?
If I nailed it dead center there is a reason your failing. Nothing else is allowed to have you without your consent. Your literally one God's and unless you take whatever that fatal last step is all they can do is tempt but they can't accept you so you never succeed. Youre literally Christ's and the reason you never took the fatal step is because he stopped you. You haven't outright rejected him yet. Guessing just ignored him. Otherwise you would have crossed the Rubicon.
There is still time. You don't even have to believe. I didn't when I started. Simply ask God to keep his promise.
He said all who seek will find. So every night for a month say a prayer to him.
"God, you said all who seek will find. Well I'm searching. So if you really are the son of God grant me more faith so that I may believe."
Be careful. Asking God for something he really really wants to give you has extreme and unpredictable results. I walked away from a 6 figure income because I couldn't lie for profit anymore after only 6 mos.
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>>516940972
>appeal to authority
>reddity passive agressive tone
You always feel free to fuck off to reddit
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>>516931816
>former pastors who are now atheists?
they took the job to get close to the children
got chased away after coming out of the closet as gay to avoid repercussions
wolves in sheep's clothing
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>>516931816
Enjoy your descent into nihilism.
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>>516954963
Oldfags cut date and times since source doesn't matter, only if it's true.
Archive search would pull it up.
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>>516958246
How embarrassing. That dude HAD to be on some heavy drugs to take that photo. Adam Savage went savage on his ass.
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>>516956291
It's literal scripture. I don't know what to tell you. Jesus's own words-
As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.’”
So if you can look at him and reject him at his second coming, then it's not him. Pretty genius really.
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>>516931816
That guy has brutal gayface so he was always a closted homosexual.
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>>516957799
>134iq
>atheist
I pity you ya faggot. You're clearly smart enough to know how fucked up everything is and you're only consolation is the idea you won't exist?
I mean, according to scripture that's what God gives you and he is merciful but still. What a horribly depressing outlook. While also being inexcusable. You're only an atheist because you never applied that intellect to actually investigating the issue. You are willfully ignorant at this point.
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>>516932622
>Maybe if god was to take such a trouble as to appear in front of somebody,
The typical hysterical request of the imbecile that can only understand matter ...
Asking a non-material being to prove himself by providing material evidence.
God is for spiritual beings only, darling child, not for those who deny their spirit, and are thus limited to matter.
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>>516957585
Yes, but notice that Christ Himself did not treat the Old Testament laws as untouchable. He taught and healed on the Sabbath, even though that was one of the strictest rules, and in doing so He rebuked the Pharisees for caring more about the letter of the law than the spirit and meaning behind it.
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>>516958856
Capped this for my folder. Great reply ya cunt.
Or what ever the fuck you assholes say, I can't type upside down.
Who TF am I kidding, your government released a music video telling people to not huff gasoline. You're probably already unconscious.
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>>516931816
He did not say the passage number...
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>>516932043
>Atheism is the most midwit take you can possibly have.

Honestly, the desert trilogy club takes that.

They utterly believe contradicotry shit in an ancient book, translated, re-translated and re-intepreted a thousand times is 100% pure word of God.
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>>516935136
>Objective morality exists, therefore a God exists.
>The fact that there are things that are always wrong and that it is an absolute requires a God. Otherwise objective morality doesn't exist.

Nope.
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>>516931816
A lot of gays are drawn to the priesthood for some reason.
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>>516931816
Trading one set of religious beliefs for another.
Faith is central to them no matter what they profess to believe.
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>>516959178
You're not completely wrong, a lot of lies mixed in with the truth and what you nailed you did so by accident so i'ld rate this a decent 6-10. Gonna get better than half the NPCs. Maybe even a solid 8 sheerly because of the accidental truth you don't even know you told.
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>>516959079
> Article 24
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>>516959632
Careful fren. Your toying with "Christianity and.." where the value of Christianity is dependant on its ability to bolster you're personal beliefs.
Don't get me wrong, I'm racist AF. And can defend it with scripture. And I acknowledge reality (my kids don't play with black kids) but Christ did say all.
If a nigger or bug somewhere is loves the truth enough to find Christ then they are a brother spiritually.
Still keep my family away. God made us separate for a reason and until he unites us ill stick with his original design.
But try to keep such politics out of religion. Only invites conflict that's not needed at this point.
Those that have ears will hear, those that don't won't. God made everyone that should find him capable of finding him. Not my place to judge someone's spirit. Only their character and only insomuch as it violates God's character.
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>>516958005
Please analyze. I would love a free reading. Can explain the hit points that triggered the diagnosis?
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>>516959290
If man I vented the law (objective morality) then man can change it. If it's subject to change it's not objective. Oy something above man can make something objectively moral.
Otherwise you end with scenarios like people cutting their child's penises off to virtue signal that they are woke or burning their first born alive as in fant by placing them on a red hot alter. Society said it is not evil so it's not.
Now me, regardless of what society says sacrificing children by burning them alive and infants, or cutting off a boys penis before he even knows what it's for is objectively immoral. You are harming the helpless most helpless and the ones you are most endeared to protect. Your child.
If you agree that is always wrong you believe in objective morality whether you admit it or not. Your cognitive dissonance isn't my problem.
If man is the highest authority than man can change what is moral. If it can change it is not objective.
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>>516958272
Jesus forgives evil.
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>>516931816
that's pretty fair ngl. it's not the promised land but secularism protects against occultism
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>>516939534
A good study is to read and understand Christian eschatology and then read Islamic eschatology. The two are almost identical, with the main exception being dajjal as the Antichrist. What one has as good, the other has as evil.
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>>516960111
>But try to keep such politics out of religion
Religion is political.
Political positions are based on religion.
All wars are spiritual (the war for souls) that is why we are Soldiers of Christ
All wars are religious, the Jews the enemies of Christ, against Christ.
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>>516961618
Jesus forgives evil.
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"pastor" doesn't mean anything
anybody can become a pastor, to any degree, with or without a congregation
this is why Orthodoxy and Catholicism are important, there has to be a direct line of succession from Christ and a duty to which priests are charged
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>>516961657
Christ forgives his ennemies.
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>>516961618
Yes, Islam is literally the antichrist religion of Revelation.
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>>516961769
>Christ forgives his ennemies.
Forgiveness requires contrition, and making amends.
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>>516961657
Yes, but not all politics are about religion. I understand this is /pol/ but there was no reason to bring the Fuhrer's views into this.
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>>516961731
>there has to be a direct line of succession from Christ
Does it really? This is what Christ told you?
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>>516961873
And in the end, Christ forgives evil.
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>>516931816
Most "Pastors" (i.e. protestant ministers) don't know what the bible says either.
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>>516961873
Forgiveness requires repentance, he already made amends. You require amends then you are no different than the man who demanded his small debt be paid while begging off the larger debt he owed.
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>>516961972
Its not a mortal sin.
Christ forgives.
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>>516961900
No. It's what he told the Apostles 2000 years ago.
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>>516931816
I mean now the Vatican endorse trannies.
The church is atheist.
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European blood built our civilization, not jewish fairy tales.

Christianity and European identity have nothing to do with each other
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>>516962043
Pretty sure rejecting God is a mortal sin.
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>>516962116
You built nothing you acted like niggers untill we converted you but now the goal of the church isn't even to convert.
It's a dead institution hence you shot on the ambulance.
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>>516940780
>You: I'm gonna eat my own shit
>People: No anon don't do that
>You: I'm getting push back for this, must mean I'm right. I'm gonna go eat even more shit now.
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>>516962155
Thats why protestant pagan filth will burn in Hell.
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>>516961897
>there was no reason to bring the Fuhrer's views into this.
I don't need your permission.

I responded to this
>>516959079
Stay out of it if you don't like it
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>>516931816
Christianity is just light Judaism made palatable for the goyim
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The Jews wrote everything in the New Testament
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>>516962227
That's me retard. Put down the fucking gas can and focus.
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>>516962316
They literally did not.
The day you learn the difference between the tribe of Judah and Judaism you become a /pol/ oldfag. Till then your just a tourist because you still trust what the Jews say about the word "Jew"
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>>516961873
>>Christ forgives his ennemies.
>Forgiveness requires contrition, and making amends.
>>516961918
>And in the end, Christ forgives evil.
Well, if evil becomes contrite, and makes amends, it is no longer evil, numb nuts. In the end, it is he repentant that Christ forgives.
"Christ forgives evil" is hysterically stupid.

>>516962007
>he already made amends
Ha ha ha ha ha. The protestant idiocy. you will find out when you die.
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>>516962522
Not here to get in the weeds with a drunk Aussie catholic. I love you. Remember it's never a war crime the first time.
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>>516962522
Jesus forgives evil.
You godless pagan filth will burn in Hell.
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>>516962722
>Jesus forgives evil.
>You godless pagan filth will burn in Hell.
>>516962522
The hysterically stupid also burn in hell
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>>516963072
>hysterically stupid
Not a mortal sin.
But you know it very well... you just keep insulting Christ, over and over again... you think there will be no consequences...
You godless pagan scum will burn in Hell.
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>>516962316
I don't think that's quite true
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>>516963222
Ha ha ha ha ha. You will find out when you die.
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>>516963419
You godless pagan filth will burn in Hell.
Simple as.
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>>516963553
Cuz you say so.
Ha ha ha ha ha. You will find out when you die. and you are burning in hell, that you are Godless pagan filth.
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>>516931816
>Pastor
Opinion discarded.
From him speaking alone, I can tell that this was some protestant hack who'd get up and yell fire and brimstone at his congregation.
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>>516963885
You keep insulting Christ, over and over again... you think rejecting God will have no consequences...

But you are afraid...
You godless pagan filth will burn in Hell.
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The core of christian morality is this:

Roll over and die.

Husband killed? Forgive the killer.
Daughter raped? Force her to carry to term.
Under active attack? Don't fight back. Forgive.

The Christianity commands you to curl up into a ball and apologize as you're stabbed.
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>>516931816
retarded for being "pastors"
retarded for being atheists

>>516932043
fpbp
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>>516964006
>You keep insulting Christ
Cuz you say so ?
Wasn't it you that said only Christ can judge ?
Burn in hell, baby.
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>>516933664
Sounds spineless.
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>>516962116
>European identity
Europe was the Phoenician princess, daughter of Agenoras son of Libya
literally african-sandnigger
add the "indo-" and you are just a Gypsy-Frank
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>>516934724
>im jus a fat mexican with no college degree
That's very obvious.
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>>516931816
Lmao dumbass
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>>516941185
>>516935999
>christ is kang faggot calling others tourists
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>>516966012
>Christ is King Chad calling others tourists
he meant to say H1B
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>>516966112
Go back, election tourist.
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>>516966240
>Go back
this you?
stop being such a filthy disgusting race
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>>516966410
Isn't Greece overrun by turks and mussies? Throwing stones in a glass house does you actual tourists no favors. Notice how that's a common theme btw? Christian nations cant defend their own because Christianity isn't a white(European) only religion. Get back to me when the kike you worship only takes in whites as followers.
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>>516951572
Because they're low IQ, notice how he crops the dates out of all his pics btw.
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>>516966667
>Isn't Greece overrun by turks and mussies?
it isn't lol
all my neighbors are white
behold the might of Christian Values!
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>>516931816
It's easy to be an atheist. These guys get drunk on their own intellect and instead of maturing in faith they'd rather make childish nitpicks for self satisfaction.
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>>516966827
Really? How is Athens doing? Enjoying all the graffiti and very Christian values being upheld there?
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>>516967009
>How is Athens doing?
the Athens Experiment is coming along quite well
Athenian Gypsies have been successfully civilized, in the past with Christianity, but the Pakistani Muslim Gypsies are all already mostly civilized: they even wash their hands and use toilets!!!
me personally i prefer living in an area where everyone is a racist monarchist fundamentalist
we all get along great without (You)
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>>516967900
>he's happy living with shitskins
Christianity at its finest, every single time you push them, their mask slips and they express how much they love shitskins.
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>>516968239
>ignores entire post and picrels
>doubles down on strawman
have some JIDF shekels for the no-effort posting
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>>516931816
they're lying
they were never pastors they're psychopathic redditors who do these larps to pull people away from faith in God
evil behavior
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>>516931816
its called cryptochristianity
they were atheists the entire time, what did you think christianity was? youre worshipping a jewish character from a jewish book in place of your actual gods

if i worshipped peter parker or clark kent as creator of the universe, would i qualify as a theist, or an atheist larping as a theist?
think about it.
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>>516931816
I spy a pedo
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>>516968709
Athenian Gypsies have been successfully civilized, in the past with Christianity, but the Pakistani Muslim Gypsies are all already mostly civilized
You are ok with living with shitskins, your schizorambling outside of that doesnt matter.
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>>516931816
Because that pastor is a closet gay man...


Christians / Christian is not overtly called out in the bible.
Christians are named after "the Christ" meaning savior or Messiah in Hebrew.
therefore Christians are followers of the Christ or followers of the Messiah

Jesus did not have a religion until John the Basptist baptized him, this is when Jesus became the head of his own church separate from jews. This is why they hated him, through him he is the light and the way..

Jews became big mad on that...

>Source- Me im a Pastor.
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>>516932622
God /Jehova would not appear before any man, due to the women's screw up with the apple. Guilt by association, lying the original sin.
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>>516931816
Closeted homosexuality catches up to you
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>>516933259
Jews are not that smart...just fyi
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>>516969326
>Athenian Gypsies have been successfully civilized, in the past with Christianity, but the Pakistani Muslim Gypsies are all already mostly civilized
that's the half where i didn't say what i am ok living with
what does the other half say where i said what i'm ok living with?
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>>516936208
Lol the Bible also says the world is round old testament thats over 6000 years ago, it also describes theoretical physics and the time does not relate the same way to humans vs God thus opening up multiple dimensions question..

I read it one has to have a high iq to understand what they were trying say in primitive language.

6000 years ago they did not know 3 dimensional language.
The Bible says "the circle of the Earth" they did not know the word sphere but they knew it was round..

Lol fuck off flat Earthers
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>>516932043
An atheist could never believe in or lend credence to the idea of simulation theory if they believe that an intelligent being couldn't be involved with creation.
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>>516932043
>>516934238
What is the actual difference between an atheist and an agnostic?
Both of them don't believe in God.
"Agnostic" and "atheist" are LITERALLY the same thing. Atheists in 2025 just call themselves agnostics because the atheist label is seen as cringe. They know what they're doing.



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