whats stopping China from taking its fair share of Siberia /pol/?
>>516999812We are allies and we have nuclear weapons.Also Ukraine is losing.
>>516999812They're frens and there's basically nothing there.
>>516999998Off by one.
>>516999812Probably because once the radiation subsides, there's nothing stopping India from taking their fair share of China.
>>516999812>fair sharethat's like a gypsy saying xe should get a free house and car because it had 15 children
>>516999921>we are alliesFor now. The worst thing that could happen to Russia is if America suddenly collapsed. Russia and China would be at each other's throats for power and OP's pic is very real outcome because Russia is China's child. Your neighbor will devour you
>>516999812Whats the geopolitical vantage of taking Siberia?
>>517000328As I said, we have nuclear weapons
>>516999812Nothing, assuming Xi is smart enough to bide his time until Russia runs out of money again and sells off Siberia for some quick cash. Why fight for what you can just pay for?
>>516999812Why rob an addict when he's gonna pawn his own shoes to you eventually
>>517000328I don't think Putin is particularly concerned with being the next US or at least he doesn't show it.
>>517000338Water, resources, exclusive access to the northern West Pacific and East Asian coast
Siberia already belongs to china russians sold everything russians on telegram told me
>>516999921You think China forgot about this? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Aigun https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amur_Annexation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Manchuriahttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Amur_anti-Chinese_pogroms
It will requeue two more weeks.>>517000328>The worst thing that could happen to Russia is if America suddenly collapsedAmerica can collapse. We will figure something out after that.
>>517000827Cope
>>517000328>because Russia is China's childLmao Russia saved China's ass from the Japs during WW2
>>516999812>fair shareNeed a couple more billion people to meet your lathe feeding quota, mr. chinaman?
>>516999812China has no interest in owning Siberia. This is such a bizarre fantasy.
>>517000930And then they almost had a shooting war in the '60s. Now the China/Russia power dynamic is almost akin to the US and Canada. Even if China doesn't annex anything outright, Siberia will be their outright legal property before the end of the century.
>>517001113Also can you believe this ridiculous image was created and published by the New York Times. A supposedly respectable paper….
>>516999812Why would they spend money and effort and ruin relationships when they can just buy anything they want from Siberia for peanuts?
>>517000930>geo-political landscape from over 80 years ago is the exact same as it is today!how were the crayons for breakfast this morning?
>>517000480Is moscow willing to use them against other nuclear power and getting destroyed in return though? Or would they be willing to give away some worthless peripheria instead?
>>516999812Russia has the worlds largest nuclear weapons arsenal.
>>517000480So does China>>517000655>>517000838God I hope America collapses because what will come is obviously going to shock you. You know nothing about power politics. When hegemonies fall, what happens? Read history. Someone else steps in as the new alpha. Do you think Russia is just going to willingly give that power to China despite having a stronger military? Do you think China is going to give it to Russia despite having a stronger economy? Lol!There will be WAR! Pyongyang, Beijing, and Moscow will be in flames. You will see the Middle East picking sides too. They will destroy each other. Meanwhile life will be comfy in Africa and South America. Picrel will be me watching it all happen on Livestream.
>>516999812if we take away russias nukesindia would attack china, so would north korea and vietnam also propably japanalso china need to focus on south china sea and expand there to survive. which they do slowly.
>>516999812Slow day at Eglin
>>517001699>So does ChinaYeah, so we will never go to war with each other
>>517000827Yeah more or less. Almost no Han Chinese ever lived there. It was part of Manchuria and was mostly underpopulated wilderness most of the “Chinese” people living were Manchus and related people.The Han Chinese colonization of Manchuria (Northeast China) happened after and specifically because of those treaties.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuang_GuandongThe territory was never really Chinese in the sense that we think of it today. Ukraine actually has a much better historical claim over the region than China.
>>517001830birthrates in vladivostok is 1.5 while north china is 0,7 same as south korea. in long term russia will just take over by birth
>>516999812https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rOnbWYSyba8Who wouldn't want Siberia, it's such a nice place.
>>517002541>Chechnya and Tuva on topYou mean the Neo-Golden Horde.
>>517002739I mean it’s literally a place you were sent to as a punishment. I’m sure Chinese people just can’t wait to move here after they conquer it.
>>517002771>>517002771>Neo-Golden Hordethey actually raped chechens many times.
>>516999812>w-what if... instead of losing ukraine... china and russia like totally fight instead?ahhh hahahaha
>>516999812If China thought that land was viable for populating and cultivating, it would have taken Mongolia already.
>>517001701>that mapGrim
>>516999921isnt siberia full of chinese logging camps anyway?
>>516999812The average chink is not suited for that climate. There is no benefit of them taking it, all the Russians leaving, and being left with nothing. They already get all the resources from trading anyway. American geopolitical blunders have basically cemented Russia/China cooperation against the US so this will never happen as Russia being aligned with China geopolitically is more valuable than directly controlling some frozen hellscape. I don't get how people have zero understanding of geopolitics and think the world works like Hoi4 or something.
>>516999812China never won a war.
>>517004942China won a war against India and was the first country to defeat the US
>>517004913It is>>516999921They'll take what they can get as soon as they can. If they can get away with taking land in Siberia, they will do it
>>516999812Nothing currently, it's going to happen unless Russia and America become allies
>>516999812Why would they need it ?What stop the US to take Canada ?
>>516999812they basically own it already.
>>516999812>whats stopping Ukraine from taking its fair share of Crimea /pol/?
Chinese historically arent very interested in conquest. only time they invaded japan was when they're under the mongol rule for example. as long as they got all the land that they consider core, they just go through the cycle of rise, decline, civil war, and unification.
>>516999812Yea Siberia very valuable region for millions to die for, good thread retard.
>>516999812gl trying to take all that land. More realistic is teaming up (bribing) Buryats and Mongols to push for independence and blocking off Russia from the Far East.I think the Chinks see the Amur Basin as their rightful clay. Vladivostok would be ezpz in the face of a million man NK army, too.I'd expect Japan and the USA to move on Kamchatka and Chukotka in such a worst case scenario, with Yakutia being semi-independent.
>>517005898Jews, it's always a jews.
>>517005307USA is taking Canada
>>517006411They won't take literally all of Siberia, at least not anytime soon, but will take a big chunk of the far east portion without America helping Russia to stop them. America will be fools to not ally with Russia as allowing China artic access is suicide. The arctic must remain solely in white hands and America will need to take over Canada too as otherwise Indians will have access to the Arctic
>>516999812The same thing that's stopping them from developing/populating their own north. Why would they go for land that's even colder?
>>517006511Wasn't it a thing a few month ago ?
>>516999812Have you ever been to Siberia, friend?
>>516999812Russia?
>>517001462Buddy, we literally abandonned and burned down our own villages and Moscow to thwart Napoleon's plan. Take a wild guess if we're willing to let nukes fly
>>517002771>churkas>golden hordeI wish they were at least half as based as mongols
>>517000338Russia is no longer a gas station if that happens.
>>517006671*Gets nuked*
>>517005208>le frere hereux
>1 post by this ID
>>517005307Nothing but their regressive tendency to deny themselves the entire continent as their inherent birthright I suppose.
>>517006511When?Donald John Trump would go down as the second-greatest President of all-time (Andrew Jackson) if he could incorporate Canada and Greenland into the United States.
>>516999812The world's largest stockpile of nuclear weapons.
>>516999812theyre allied with russia, and russia has been giving chinks lebensraum in siberia on the low for well over a decade now.
>>517010028Is that true? If I look up a walking video in Novosibirsk will I see at least more than 10% of the population being chinks?
>>517007056The Arctic, potentially. The Yenisei and Lena basins would give them access without getting cucked by Alaska.If China started investing billions in Siberia/Far East, it'd be difficult for a weakened Russia to compete. Very easy for uprisings to start, with very little chance of crushing them.A post-Putin war-weary Russia could easily find a few Chink-coded candidates causing issues.
>>516999812If Russia turns on China then China is fucked.China is winning because of Russia. They're not going to jeopardise that.
>>516999812skill issue
>>517008426>Not using Florence Meridian That Chutkotka, kek.
>>516999812China already has plenty unusable land. They don't need more.
>>516999812What's stopping Germany from taking Poland at this point?
>>517001427Yes.
>>517001699Life would absolutely not be comfy in Africa. The Middle East, Russia, and China already exert power there through funding proxies or economical colonization (in China's case). They'd absolutely start unleashing hard power there if the US falls.
China did it before, they extinguished the blonde white tocharian buddhists in northern china. whats to stop them doing it again?! look it up thetoch-ARIANS
>>516999812Idk but the map of China owning Siberia just makes more sense to me on an intuitive level.
>>516999812invading is for kikes and ziggersand violent coup is for muttkikesthey just need to wait
War
>>516999812China doesnt have a claim to all of that.Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island ok and some more stuff like old Vladivostok but not much more north than that. Its not fair historicly.
>>516999812The Mongol Empire did not take Northern Eurasia, because they did not know that the British Empire will take similar inhabited lands and will be bigger in size and therefore number1.The Chinese do not take Siberia because it belongs to Russia.
>>517016417I wanted to say China, now it sounds racist.I already made mistake so I continue.It could be a race thing. Yellow man created Mongolia.Yellos man = small size.
>>516999812No one wants that ice. Putin was giving it away for free, plus Russian citizenship, ti anyone who wanted and could survive there a year without leaving.
>>517017071You're a fucking retard if you think it's basically Antarctica there. lrn2map
>>516999812>whats stopping China from taking its fair share of Siberia /pol/?Cold.
>>517008434>1 post by this IDnice try faggot
>>517001914>Manchus aren't ChineseDon't let your dear friend and ally hear you say this.
>>517017492>Le ColdYellow man cannot withstand arctic conditions.Only escimo people can live there.Wait escimo is yelow mann? :Oawkward sory
>>517001914If Manchus arent Chinese Siberians are not Russians.Pls stop this retardation.
>>517017484t. actually looked into getting rus citizenship because anywhere but hueland.It's not antartica, you snowniggers might survive, but it's not for tropical brs and southern chinks.
>>517017859>I'm a Retarded Redditor the Post
>>516999812Not much anymore.They can backstab us at any moments, we are at their complete mercy.They'll do it when we outlive our usefulness as a battering ram.
>>516999921>>517000480>>517001609>>517007623russia can only launch nukes if they still have a functioning government.russia only has a functioning government because china is backing it.if china suddenly decides the war has done enough damage to the west and is no longer advantageous they take away support and russia folds, carving up russia ensues.china could easily make an agreement with the eu to dismantle russia.china desperately wants lake baikal and they could easily bring harmony to everything east of the urals.
>>516999812read you fucking retardhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
>>517018054china has the land to take but not the will to do it. it's not going to happen. it's not like china wants to invade a country that could easily wipe them out.
>>517018924nukes are only a threat to the west. russia is critically reliant on china. if china decides it has aspirations about russia it only needs to make up some bullshit to disrupt this support. eg, missing shipments, convenient 'ukranian' sabotage, and a couple of propaganda pieces about russian prostitutes infiltrating china, and all support for russia would collapse without a single chinese bullet.
>>517001701When China, Russia and the whole European continent are decimated by their declining population Mongolia will reclaim what is theirs.
>>517006511God willing
