I'm leaning towards species. We just seem so different. And jews are a parasitic species completely, contributing nothing and only detracting from other species. Black people seem to be in the process of splitting or something to be honest. I can't really tell. East Asians are generative. But all that isn't really the point. Another question is if races are species are ethnicities subspecies or is it that races are subspecies and ethnicities are subsubspecies?
>>517095536subspecies. There is still genetic mixing possible that produce viable offspring. I thought we all knew "race" was a nice way to say subspecies.
The way we use human has to meanings:Human as in Western European Christian values, and Human as in same species. We make this semantic fallacy as if blacks, Asians etc. (human def #2) are just like us (human def #1) Thus we get confused.
>>517095536They can interbreed without having monstrously fucked up children so subspecies
>>517095536You fuckers always post 10/10 white models, but then when I see white people in real life, half of them look as ugly as me
>>517095722>There is still genetic mixing possible that produce viable offspringPolar bears and grizzly bears can also have viable offspring yet are considered different species.>>517095536The best piece of evidence that negroids and caucasoids aren't the same species is that we can't share blood or organ donations because the body rejects it similar to why you can't get a heart transplant from a dog or large cat.
>>517095722species faggot
>>517095992So? Do you want us to post 1/10 rednecks instead?
>>517096224scientifically different species cannot produce sexual capable offspring
>>517096111>Polar bears and grizzly bears can also have viable offspring yet are considered different species.Yes. Many biology majors suck at biology. Just as many English majors suck at English.
>>517095536>>517095722Race is not subspecies. Race is more like breeds of dogs. Wolves are a species of the genus Canidae (Canis Lupus). Dogs are a subspecies of wolves (Canis Lupus Familiaris). While there are many different dog breeds, they still belong to the same species and sub species.
>>517096387These two posters suffer from cognitive bias and cannot think. >>517096111>>517096224there is no point in trying to educate them.
>>517096387Not true.>>517096564You are wrong. There are examples of different species who can produce viable offspring.
>>517096507Dogs are domesticated and bred. Humans were from isolated genetic populations that adapted and evolved in their environments. Hope this helps, but you cannot be educated.
>>517096387>scientifically different species cannot produce sexual capable offspringAhem, I think mr Pizzly Bear would like a wordhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly%E2%80%93polar_bear_hybrid
>>517096696tautologically illogical.
>>517096736Is just a different tone of grizzly bear
>>517095722You do realize it could be totally possible that you can have cross-species breeding due to convergent evolution right?The charts showing human genetic drift show different groups as being far enough away from one another that it could be considered disingenuous to call us all one species. Maybe you're right though, but even if subspecies exist, that doesn't mean they're always compatible or that it's a good idea to mix their genes.The larger pool of genetics you have, the larger the pool of both positive and negative traits someone can have, and you can only have so many traits in 1 person. So by laws of averages, you're ending up with better highs and worse lows across that distribution.
>>517096507I'd argue subspecies is more like within the Caucasoid species you have: angloidnordicgermanicslavicmediterranean Mongoloids (asians) probably have similar but I don't know a lot about gooks
If they can interbreed and produce viable offspring ... same Species. Can the ignorant people make note of this.
>>517095536Jews are still human, it's just their particular lean of behavior is the same as a parasite as it serves the same biological function. To miss this lesson is to fail to learn the lesson of just how evil the worst elements of our species can be. By treating jews as a different race, you end up saying "guess humans can't be as evil as jews 'cuz they're not human" but they are human. It hurts more knowing a tribe in our species hurt the rest of us so badly that it makes us hate ourselves, but if we want to prevent the jewish behavioral disease from ever taking root again, we have to be willing to still categorize it as wholly human behavior - just at its extreme negatives.
>>517095992>>517096268### Thread contextThe line appears in a /pol/ thread debating whether human “races” are different species or subspecies, with posters trading pseudo-biological claims, analogies (e.g., bears, dog breeds), and hostile jabs. The quoted sentence is a tangent within this debate, shifting from taxonomy to looks and online curation.---### Intended meaning in contextIt’s a self-deprecating complaint about selection bias: posters often share “10/10 white models,” creating an idealized image of “whites,” but everyday encounters don’t match those curated examples. The speaker uses their own perceived ugliness to highlight the gap between online aesthetics and real-life variance.---### Immediate replies and toneA nearby reply shrugs off the complaint—“Do you want us to post 1/10 rednecks instead?”—framing the thread’s image sharing as aspirational rather than representative. This reinforces the board’s habit of posting extreme exemplars to bolster racial arguments, not to reflect average appearance.---### How it functions on the page- **Deflation of rhetoric:** It undercuts the thread’s idealized racial framing by pointing to ordinary variance in attractiveness.- **Shift from biology to aesthetics:** It diverts the species–subspecies debate into a commentary on looks and online curation, exposing the non-scientific, image-driven nature of much of the discussion.
>>517096907>>517096907>You do realize it could be totally possible that you can have cross-species breeding due to convergent evolution right?No. That's not possible. You cannot, say, cross a jack rabbit with a rabbit. Have a nice day.
>>517096928>CaucasoidObsolete racial grouping. Whites didn't originate in the Caucasus and the Caucasoid/Negroid/Mongoloid grouping doesn't account for many peoples.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race
>>517096111Lions and tigers, too. Ligers and lions make liligers etc. Different species can absolutely sometimes produce fertile offspring.
The next person afflicted with Dunning Kruger and utters some stupidity about species that is not the biological definition gets the baseball bat.
>>517095536humans are subspecies, not different species. If you look at the different species of one genus, there are many cases of infertility and sterility. But looking at how mutts have no issues making children with other mutts or nonmutts, then this is a proof we are subspecies
>>517097342>liligersMales are sterile.
>>517097228You can say that but meanwhile Caucasoids can share organs and bone marrow within the species but if it's from a negroid it gets rejected. So if we're not going to call it caucasoid fine, but there's something to the reality of organ donations which is objectively different. In any other animal species we'd be considered wholly separate species based on:-strikingly different outward appearances-different bone density-different skull shape-different native habitats-different vocalizations-inability to share organs and bone marrow-different IQ levels-different social structureetc. These are all factors considered when categorizing different species of animals.
>>517096696>There are examples of different species who can produce viable offspring.The label of any species is arbitrary. Think about it - when would one species become another? What would the very first Homo sapien be, and how did they come to exist? Taxonomy is a heuristic.The definition of two distinct species is the inability to produce fertile offspring. If you find two species that can produce fertile offspring, they are the same species, and what some dipshit named them in Latin isn't relevant.
The words "species" and "subspecies" are not taxonomically accurate across the animal kingdom because we didn't have genetic testing for the majority of the time that animals were being classified. There is more genetic distance between certain species and subspecies than others. Broadly speaking, according to FST, a measurement of genetic distance, humans should AT LEAST be classified as different subspecies, if not species all together.
>>517097410i think i answered everyone's question of the human races being subspecies, not different species.
>>517097410If we're the same species why can't we share organs and bone marrow? You know if a negroid and caucasoid have a child neither one of them is genetically similar enough to donate organs or bone marrow? If I had a baby with a negroid some random Caucasoid off the street is going to be closer to me genetically than my own child.
are Indians humans?
>>517097821>If you find two species that can produce fertile offspring, they are the same speciesSo then why are polar bears and grizzly bears considered different species?
>>517096387Not true. It can happen across GENERA (see corn snake x king snake)
>>517097809Why not just call them Europeans or white? Caucasian is a total misnomer, the origins of the race are in the steppe, Anatolia, and western hunter gatherers.
>>517095536If the skeleton is different, it's a different species.
>>517097470ok interesting I didn't know that, but the other anon's example of the polar and grizzly bears is solid. they diverged way more recently than lions and tigers and their descendants are all fertile, but they're clearly different species.in conclusion: blacks and jews hate us cause they aint us.
>>517098383The correct term for whites is Aryan
>>517095992I don'tI like fucking ugly women
>>517098040we can share organs, but not bone marrows. I dont know why. But having a minute issue as bone marrow replacement will not entirely answer the question when mutts are not sterile or infertile.
>>517097821So coyotes and wolves are the same species?
>>517096770You're just mad because it's becoming clear to you that you don't understand the subject you're trying to discuss. It happens. >>517097821>The definition of two distinct species is the inability to produce fertile offspring. If you find two species that can produce fertile offspring, they are the same speciesWrong. There are examples of species with far more genetic distance than different races of humans that can produce fertile offspring.
>>517098611>>517098040isnt the best indicator of different species is when the offsprings are infertile and sterile?
WMAF is the future
>>517098582Also wrong. Aryans are an obsolete group, and most of the admixture of modern Europeans isn't even indo European. Just say white or European.
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>>517096387The mixed breeds typically have genetic problems. While they might produce offspring, damaged offspring are effectively a dead branch. The jew knows this, as that is all they are. It is why they promote race mixings - to drag the rest of the world down to their level, then completely dominate the competition through financial and legal slavery.
>>517098159Because the taxonomic distinction is completely arbitrary, there's no cutoff. It's just some dudes going "fuck it, we'll call that one Lorem ipsum, and that one will be Lorem negro...". Taxonomy is a way of trying to organize something that isn't organized or even organizable. The concept of species isn't much better. Turns out, if you breed lions and tigers, most of them will be infertile, but actually not all of them. Things become progressively less compatible over time, but it's not an off switch.
>>517098850You think Aryans are an obsolete group because you're either brown or giving too much credit to the winners of WW2 who say Hitler must have been wrong about the white Aryan race because jews paid us to kill them. Aryans have been identifiable since the swastika existed
>>517095536Can you guys stop simping for white women?
>>517097410>>517097898truth. good post.>>517098040some parents cant even receive a blood transfusion from their children due to blood type, even though they're directly related.
>>517098762Yes i think in fact that's how they define different species.
>>517099430who should we downgrade to mohammed?
>>517099430Never ask a nazi to stop simping.
>>517098742>>517098672Examples of flawed taxonomy isn't a gotcha - the entire concept is retarded. Most species were named before a consensus was even made on what "species" means. A good chunk of them were named before evolution was theorized, and we're still using that system now.
>>517099675You should see white women as the vile enemy they are. We need artificial wombs to replace them as they are inferior
>>517099632no, different species would mean humans are too far apart that offsprings would be infertile and sterile. And that's not the case when mutts are fertile. But since we do have little complications such as bone marrow transplant or being genetically away from our own neighbors, that means we are not apart to be separated as species. So we are definitely subspecies.
>>517099753don't bother explaining basic facts to /pol/tards, they aren't capable of understanding it and they don't like facts, it's inconvenient to them.
>>517100260That's what i was agreeing with you that they are classified different species if they can't produce fertile offspring
>>517099753>it's wrong because I think so!Oh well>A good chunk of them were named before evolution was theorized,Assigned taxonomy changes all the time to this day. Did you think they just named all the species 200 years ago and stopped looking into it?>>517100326I'll keep pointing out when you're wrong because I believe you can be better than this. Call me a naive optimist
>>517100464oh sorry. i misunderstood your words. I was expecting someone to rebut me
>>517100583kek you are forgiven it's pol after all.
>>517099303>Completely arbitrary and not organizable
>>517095992This, I live in North Dakota and let me tell you. Genetic bottleneck of ugliness,
>>517100472>>it's wrong because I think so!What the fuck are you talking about lmao>Assigned taxonomy changes all the time to this day. Yeah, and why is that?Since me pointing out taxonomy is flawed enrages you, and you're rejecting the definition of "species", why don't you proffer a definition of species that ties it all perfectly together?
>>517100472>Assigned taxonomy changes all the time to this day. Did you think they just named all the species 200 years ago and stopped looking into it?Yeah a lot of species are in completely different families to what they thought they were because they look the same. That doesn't have anything to do with how we define different species.
>>517098774>>517098869>>517098964Thanks for creating the next Elliot Rodger
>>517100779based22+xy/xx is "homo sapiens" and any subdivisions of those would subspecies. speciation events would have some 22+xx/xy not be able to generate fertile offspring
>>517100779How would you organize every ancestor of those groups, leading back to a common ancestor, and how would you organize interracial progeny?You would have to use calculus to do this. This would be a better solution, but who would understand it?
>>517095536anyone having a glance at a genetic distribution and distance chart can see that tsubsaharans have nothing to do with the rest of humanity.same goes for abbos.jews are a parasitic species, must have been exposed to a dna destroying virus 5k years ago that turned them congentially schizophrenic, greedy and warped, with a total inversion on morals.
>>517101383first you denounce the talmud and knowledge will follow
>>517100895what you see as ugly is probably down to obesity/drugs/poor lifestyle.genetically they're probably alright
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>>517101608Sure, fuck the talmud, I denounce and piss on it.Now, fix taxonomy without using calculus.
>>517099823they're just impressionable like innocent children are. when jews push rap to children or white women they think oh the radio is playing this and everyone likes it so it must be good. oh the TV says black people have big dicks too? (they don't)etc
>>517101383>did you know that everyone in the world came from one guy 200 years ago>yeah I actually saw the figures on plebbit>so??
>>517095536there is no firm way to define species or subspeciesin fact there is this thing called cline in biology when you have a species that live geographically near each other and the species changes slightlyin some cases you can have ring-species where you have continous clines (i.e. species or subspecies) that can interbreed with other clines but at the end of the clines the species are already so different they don't interbreed anymorehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cline_(biology)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_speciesthe pic explanation>In a ring species, gene flow occurs between neighbouring populations of a species, but at the ends of the "ring", the populations don't interbreed.
>>517096387wrong
At the very least, different races are different subspecies of homo sapiens sapiens. At most, we're different species of hominids.
>>517096928yeah
>>517102023They are inferior a product of nature that needs to be removed. White women are the greatest enemy of white men, even more so than jews
>>517102181Define 'species' in a way that isn't arbitrary, in the same way we can define 'male' and 'female' in a way that isn't arbitrary.
>>517100578>Homo sapiens left africa like 50k years agooutright lie.oldest modern human remains in Europe are 350k years old, and in china were the same or older.the 50k and out of ape-land nonsense is eepeated by media but has been disproven. it was a politically motivated propaganda from the 60s in the US when the civil rights stuff was going on.out of asia and multiple origin theory make more sense
>>517102451you can't because its heuristic
>>517102358you're an inferior product of nature and an enemy to white men. it's just american white women who are retarded. I meet girls from Eastern Europe in my town all the time working abroad and they're actually normal people
>>517102094>there is no firm way to define species or subspeciesdenounce the talmud
>>517102451two distinct animals with recognisable characteristics across their whole populace.>muzzle>wooly curled pube fur on scalp>low iq, no frontal lobe>says "gibsmedat">claims to have been a kang
>>517102946White women are a cancer that has led the white race to extinction. They need to be exterminated the moment we have artificial wombs
I would just like to point out to everyone here that Hitler rejected out of africa by the way.
>>517102946it's a pajeet or some other third worlder.unfortunately they're invading eastern Europe now as well
you idiots are still here debating whether humans are either subspecies or different species when mutts are fertile and not sterile?here's the tldr:>If it’s a subspecies, fertility is expected.>If it’s a different species, fertility depends on how recently they split and how similar their chromosomes/DNA still are.so we are subspecies, not different species.
>>517103166You are refusing to accept reality so you deflect with nonsensical attacks
>>517103166he's just bitter white women don't like browns
>>517095536That girl has a pajeet husband and half-pajeet kids with him btw.
>>517095536I don't believe we all come from the same ancestor. I believe in the biblical account, Adam lived around 6000 years ago. If we all "come from Adam", what does that mean? that Adam was a White-Black-Asian-Aborigene? how does that look like? did he "unravel" from his mixed-race components into various distinct racial groups? in just about one or two thousand years? like some high-speed "evolution"? That's nonsense. He was simply a White man, and there were other people around already. Black people surely exist longer than just a couple of thousand years. Asians surely existed separate from all the biblical account of the last thousands of years. This very basic logical conclusion is what is unsettling to most people today who grew up in the globalist/humanist equality agenda. Adam being a White man, and the Bible being about Adamites and Israelites (White people) from Genesis (5:1-3) to Revelation (21:12). The Bible is constantly teaching that mixing isn't good, mixing in any way, we are not even supposed to have different materials in one piece of clothes. We are not supposed to put different seed in one field. The fallen angels that mixed with the sons of Adam and creating the "giants", not good. The same theme over and over and people still don't want to see. Kind after kind is God's rule from the beginning, that is order. Mixing seeds is not order, that is chaos and destruction, which is what the devil wants. >Genesis 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh
>>517098869Short, weak chink sons that look nothing like you.
>>517103171well Aryans are descended from Atlanteans so this conversation about out of africa goes completely out the window actually
>>517103294proof or shut the fuck up shitskin
>>517102849You can define a heuristic or explain its usage. I'll give you an example:Race is a heuristic. If someone's 23+me test would show they are 75%+ sub-Saharan African and they had a criminal record longer than the Bible, we would say they are 'black'. If someone's 23+me test would show they are 98% Anglo-Saxon and they did not have a criminal record, we would say they are 'white'. 'Black' and 'White' are categories of 'race'. One use case for race is medicine, and an example would otolaryngology, where Asian people produce a different type of ear-wax to White or black people, which is less likely to impact, but also easier to remove with liquid irrigation.Can you do something similar for species? If you can't, it's not a heuristic, because it's fucking useless.
>>517103664While ur gooning to her pics and calling her photo ur aryan goddess a Pajeet is pounding her pussy irl and filling her womb up with his indian cum.LOL
>>517103612can an atlantean and a negroid have fertile offspring? yes or no?
>>517095536if you can make babies with it, its the same spiecies. thats the logical answer
>>517095722Different species can have viable offspring. Wolves and dogs are the most obvious example. They are only separated by like 20,000 years of evolution, so there isn't enough genetic distance between them. Same applies to humans and niggers.
>>517103664Arna Ýr Jónsdóttir is her namehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arna_%C3%9Dr_J%C3%B3nsd%C3%B3ttirHer husband is Vignir Þór Bollason.also from Iceland
>>517103926I know you daydream about women with superior DNA but literally all women hate indian men and you're just ragebaiting. proof required or get out>>517103940how long ago did they split off? polar and grizzly bears can have fertile offspring who can have more fertile offspring etc and they're clearly different species. they diverged half a million years ago. Atlantis is said to be 150k years ago but some people say Aryans are even older than that and aren't even native to this planet (some say Mars hundreds of millions of years ago). Point is this planet is a clusterfuck of superior species (white and east asian) and inferior species (everyone else). there are some salvageable people in the inferior species but they're the exception not the norm and they are different species. aliens mixed us to maximize the suffering of high-quality loosh producers (superior species) which they eat. fuck aliens and fuck inferior species of humans
>>517104339thank you.hey faggot currycel >>517103926read >>517104339
>>517096507Europeans and blacks have the 0.5 genetic distance, that is more than wolves and domesticated dogs. They are definitely different subspecies at the very least.
Neanderthal skulls look more similar to present day Caucasian skulls than present day abbo skulls to present day Caucasian skulls. Yet neanderthals are considered a totally different species, meanwhile all humans alive today are "OnE RaCe thE hUman RaCE"There's like a dozen human species present at the moment that can interbreed with each other. Because white people evolved too fast and figured out how to cross natural divides like the Sahara and ocean, so there was no time for the species to get farther away genetically. If it weren't for white people, browns would have never crossed these natural divides, so in a million year or so we would have gotten all the fantasy races like goblins, orcs, hobbits etc.But now we will just muttify til the end
>>517104795A bunch of people are now saying that Neanderthals are a subspecies of human. All humans evolved from Homo erectus, so Neanderthals were basically like our distant cousins.
Euro beauty...
>>517105795"wow that black person is so attractive"...said no one ever
>>517101383>how would you organize interracial progenyThey would simply be mixed.eg: mulatto, quadroon, octaroon, etc.It would take multiple generations of a sufficiently sized and similar mixed group breeding in isolation to obtain a stable a tight cluster of stable and robust (healthy) complementary genes/alleles.Most traits are polygenic.I'll use jews as good example and not to be intentionally "antisemitic".They are highly mixed from being an international tribe and will often freely admit to having a high incidence of sickly individuals among them. Some of this also results from inbreeding too many generations from too small of a local pool in the instances they were isolated.The best mating practices for them would be to either have an ethnostate to consolidate their genetics into a definitive race, or to dissolve into their host nations.Take my words with a grain of salt because I haven't been into population genetics for a long time.
If you dont have a child by 35yo, you are a failure>t. 2 kids at 28
I only care about racist girls; the other retarded ones, there's no one to save. If you want to know how brainwashed a girl is, just ask her what music she likes. Only racism can save Europe and white girls. Anyone who doesn't defend their blood is a traitor and doomed to hell.
>>517095536>defend evropean beaut-ACK!!!
>>517106564if you settle when marrying, you're a failure>ftfy
>>517107613>ask her what music she likesgenius
>>517095536>MARCH OF THE TITANSbelongs in this thread
>>517108279part 2
>>517108412part 3
