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WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK?
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>>517114880
>fucking 175k
The western MIC being a total scam makes really glad desu
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>>517099281
>Do you take on male students?
Yes but they are few and far between. I usually get 2 dudes in a group of 10. Art academies and highschools have been infested with women.
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>>517115337
I mean that's kinda the way it oughta be.
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Thanks for the breadyiv
T*lmud denounced
TND
TKD
THD
TMD
TTD
TRU
TSH
TSK
TSM
TSB
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Ukraine is preparing to lose the Lyman direction. Here we see them clearing the foliage from the left bank near Pryshyb.

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>>517115103
Z
THD
TKD
Thanks for the bread
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>>517115462
Back when I was in school it was evenly split. Some courses on the academy were male only (like sculpting). Now every guy that gets into academy is living through harem manga. I am extremely jealous.
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Its ovyr
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>>517115563
Smart. Everyone knows how loyal foliage is to Putin
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>depopulated the Ukraine
>deindustrialized Europe
>demilitarized NAFO
>resurrected 1 million men
>deported azeris
>falsified western elections
>imported millions of immigrants into the west
>staged protests in bongland
>pushed right-to-repair laws in the US
>raised inflation during Biden's presidency
>exported eggs to the US
>became Amalek
>blows up NAFO warehouses on their territory
>kicking the west out of Africa
>bases still in Syria

>gets away with it
How does he do it?
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>>517115326
The western MIC has no real interest in reducing costs. Governments are partially to blame since they don't like long term big contracts anymore. Rheinmetall was practically begging for a long term contract for shells, so they could invest in a bigger factory and what not. Our MIC can barely produce anything because everything conglomerated into fucking BAE and they shut almost everything down.
F-35 would be significantly cheaper if production was centralised into a few areas.
Because there's no real focus on making a larger supply chain for more shit they'd rather price gouge.
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>>517115315
It would be interesting to see them make more heavy APCs on tank chassis as those seem like the way to go. Infantry is still the queen of the battlefield, and getting them safe and sound into the assault is more important than organic firepower for infantry-carrying vehicles (that's what tanks are for anyway). T-15 armata has the right idea in terms of protection, but it's honestly over-armed and thereby more expensive and heavy than it really needs to be.
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>>517115337
Do you think it's because of the stigma getting worse that art is not for men or do you think it's because females are enabled to just not get into STEM while being entitled to girlboss? Because the phenomenon is interesting, especially since it's simular with cooking yet most succesful Chefs and Gourments are actually male.
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>>517112216
>>517114557
>>517115563
here's a (You) for all the spot-the-difference posts you make that, frankly, nobody cares about
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>>517092001
You should be able to do both, no?
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>>517115679
Well I graduated engineering recently and it was still a sausage party.
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>>517116072
I think it telegraphs the Ukrainian thinking. when they do stuff like this.
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>>517115810
Don't forget the far eastern Ukrainian territory of Zelenyy Klynn
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>>517115810
hyhyls wuz kangs n' shiiiet
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>>517116049
Why hasn't the armata platform entered into mass production?
I get that Russia already has a more than good enough fleet of T90s and T72s by which to engage the hohols but future conflicts will require better platforms.
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>>517116343
Two more weeks.
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>>517116429
The T90 has been shown to be more than capable of dealing with anything the West has thrown, no?
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>>517115983
wasn’t the whole point of f35 diffused production a way to get every politician to dip in and score some local mic jobs?
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>trans-negro commited blocking detachments encircled
>porkroast storm has begun
>donny uses jewlenskys lies against him telling jew he can win war and have crimeaa beach party and capture moscow and russia weak so he doesnt need any help
we are eating good
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>>517115103
Christ is King, and to Jews we say GOYDA!
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>>517116343
>TURK ALERT
TURK ALERT
>TURK ALERT
TURK ALERT
>TURK ALERT
TURK ALERT

alert code: 400lbs
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>>517116049
>as those seem like the way to go
the ukrine theater has shown the exact oposite. The heavier the vehciel the easier a target it is and the more it gets swarmed.
Thats the reason russia has switched to small infantary infiltraton tactics, many of foot during night with thermal camoflouge. You hardly see any big mechanized pushes anymore, sometime when they have a especial weakspot made out you see them still using APC/IFV but thats it.

Fighting in urban areas will be even worse for heavy vehicles.

What really will be the future, is a high mobility system for the individual soldier, shit dop pods probably would be a genius option right now.
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>>517116429
1. Too expensive
2. Protection is not good enough for a vehicle of its type until they can improve the hard-kill APS to deal with top-attack munitions and drones.
3. Armata is designed to be hyper-effective at dealing with enemy tanks (tank-on-tank), which the war in the ukraine seems to show to be very rare.
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>>517116558
In this conflict, yes.
But for other conflicts maybe not.
Russia needs to start serial production of all sorts of military related equipment as it used to during the USSR days, it should be understood that Russia is currently in the same shitty situation it was under back when Stalin started taking over, in the sense that it is surrounded by a sea of Western backed enemies.
So it needs to start producing everything from tanks to planes at the giga scale, if it wants to survive in the future that is.
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Aight /chug/ what do you think about Serbian modernised m-84 AS3? I need some proper autists to explain to me what is new and why since all pundits posting about it are retards.

>>517116067
>Do you think it's because of the stigma getting worse that art is not for men
First time I ever hear this.
To be honest, I have no idea. I think men these days in general just drop out of high education much more than women and I can't fault them. Most colleges are a waste of time.
>>517116173
Congrats
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do russians really?
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>>517115746
O
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When I look at the Shandryholove area and the bombing moves 5km south to Yarova two weeks ago it corresponds with what Deep State is showing that the Russian lines also moved about that much.
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>>517116429
>Why hasn't the armata platform entered into mass production
cos its pre-drone centric warfare tank design, its completely outdated immediately
>but future conflicts will require better platforms
yeah like those heavy breakthrough barn tanks but actually designed properly from ground up and not some mad max field mods
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>>517116897
>So it needs to start producing everything from tanks to planes at the giga scale
Russia need to produce new hardware there the old one is not "more than enough" for the job, focusing on producing armatas would take resources away from producing newer artillery, EW,...
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>Russia is shelling Kherson with cluster munitions from the DPRK, — Defense Express.
>These are JU-90 submunitions that pose an increased threat to civilians.
damn war criminals!
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>>517116577
It also gives other states an incentive to buy the F35.
The US wants all of it's core vassala to use them, that way they would become ever more reliant on them for parts.
It makes no sense from the prespective of wanting to make an aircraft as cheap as possible and in the largest amount possible.
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>>517116577
More or less
The fact we've still got a fucking F-35 being covered in shit in India because it needs a specialist the UK somehow isn't able to have shows it as a disaster right there.
Of course if you so happen to be jewish you won't have any issues whatsoever.
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>>517117040
damn those undemocratic non-western munitions!
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>>517117040
since when the wect in general and hohols in particular care about threats to civilians? they themselves boast about threatening and killing civies with every peremoha
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>>517117104
bro its just broken system. transporting f-35 from india by sea or by air shouldnt be a problem, its a small plane, I am pretty sure you can load it in cargo plane.
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>>517116049
Exactly the opposite
T-15 too underequiped and share same tank logic in the design as other "Armata" platform vehicles. In SMO practice armor enough to mounted some great ERA like Relict is far more greater rather than 1488mm against kinetic in front. Not to mention that "Malahit" ERA designed as peak ERA for cold war scenario where most engaged goes nearly perpendicular toward vehicle projection. "Afganot" APS also outdated as fuck because it's not able to engage more than 12 targets i n one direction and it struggle to detect small low speed targets like drones. Not to mention that arming this vehicles with some programmed/proximity fuze 57mm cannon would be far more greater in terms of tactical anti-air against same drones and ability to send to the enemy a fucking flying grenade is better than some 30mm shell or bunch of ATGM's
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>>517117072
>F-22 literally never sold to a single country, not even Israel
>F-35 pushed down the throat of every allied country
Really makes you think.
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>>517117426
>"Afganit" APS
Fix
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>>517117023
>Russia need to produce new hardware
Doesn't matter, desu.
All that MATTERS in REAL wars is quantities not quality.
What Russia needs is FUCKING quantity.
Unfortunately it's TFR is low and it's industrial production is insufficient, their current economic model needs to be reconsidered.
>>517116882
The vehicle can be reconfigured taking in the lessons learned from this conflict.
I can't imagine a 360 deg APS as being too hard to develop for a country like Russia.
It would be basicly be a bunch of millimeter wave radar/optic systems strapped various parts of the tank that would then guide interceptors towards incoming projectiles.
Look at how adaptive the Chinese are.
They already reconfigured their kits based on lessons from Ukraine.
Like I said having a massive industrial base is all that matters, desu.
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>>517116867
You're kinda right, but you're missing the point.
Tanks are still used very heavily (though generally at a distance, granted) because they are the only AFVs with sufficient protection to brave the drone-dominated battlefield. Traditional IFVs and APCs lack the protection to be used effectively when drones are about. For mechanized assaults to be viable again, you need to more heavily armoured APCs, which no country has in any significant quantity, and Russian APCs and IFVs are generally even less protected than NATO IFVs. Now that the frontline is moving away from the areas where mines are/were the most heavily concentrated, the lack of armor on APCs/IFVs is the main obstacle to using these kinds of tactics. Of course, in many situations, infiltration tactics would still be the only way to go, but having the option to launch more effective mechanized assaults, with APCs that provide sufficient protection for the infantry, would be extremely useful.
It should also be noted that when it comes to drawing the lessons from this war to the next war (And I think there will be a next war relatively soon, sadly) you have to keep in mind that NATO does not and will not have access to even a fraction of the number of mines Ukraine had.
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>>517117775
>All that MATTERS in REAL wars is quantities not quality.
>What Russia needs is FUCKING quantity.
That's exactly what I'm saying, using production capacity on marginally better hardware is for all purposes wasting industrial capacity.

>Unfortunately it's TFR is low and it's industrial production is insufficient, their current economic model needs to be reconsidered.
There's no such thing as enough industrial production.
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>>517117040
*Russia is shelling Kherson with ILLEGAL cluster munitions from the DPRK
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>>517116964
You sit down old hag
V
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>>517117544
I don't know which to believe
Either F22 is vaporwave and US is trying to hide it's failure by just exporting f35s
or
They completely lost the tech to build F22s and are coping by pushing f35
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why do r*ssians have such gay and ugly sounding surnames? Golikokov, Putin, Shomolov, Ruskika, Blyadimir, Fuckanus, Ivangodor?

Why can't you ugly mutt homosexuals have manly and cultured sounding names like Freeman, Michaelson, Washington, Jackson, Mason, Bradford.
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Georgia how could you?!
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Here comes the cold front. Do you think it will be wet winter this year?
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>>517118046
>They completely lost the tech to build F22s and are coping by pushing f35
This one
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>>517117018
> cos its pre-drone centric warfare tank design, its completely outdated immediately
Than it can be reconfigured accordingly.
Make the cannon smaller (you can reuse the one from the T55s) to reduce weight.
Add a proper native (NOT MODULAR) APS that PROVIDE 360 degrees protection.
I could go on.
The only reason drones seem so effective is that no counter has been created for them, yet.
>yeah like those heavy breakthrough barn tanks but actually designed properly from ground up and not some mad max field mods
A modular system of basic protection against small projectiles carried by drones along with an APS should fix that.
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>>517117775
its not a war of quantity. its a small scale war compared to russian doctrine. its fought by about 600k troops. it maay sound major but compared to russian history of fighting and having from 5mil to 8mil troops fielded during ww2 its nothing.
thats why its called SMO, initially I was against using such wording since it sounds like westoid copes but it reflects reality. its not a full scale war. Its managed conflict without time limits fought without exhausting any of russias resources.
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>>517118052
cos you are a negro mutt, jamal
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>>517117040
Aren't this the same people who boasted about striking with missiles the Belgorod New Year market?
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>>517118099
OY VEY VERY UNDEMOCRATIC!
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>>517118109
Meanwhile, over the Atlantic
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>>517117915
>That's exactly what I'm saying, using production capacity on marginally better hardware is for all purposes wasting industrial capacity.
That would be true if Russia was using her current industrial capacities to mass produce older tanks but it isn't.
It's nothing like it used to be during the USSR days.
> There's no such thing as enough industrial production.
That's true.
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>>517118460
>That would be true if Russia was using her current industrial capacities to mass produce older tanks but it isn't.
The effort that goes into producing T-15s, that are quite bad in modern battlefield, is far better used either producing T-90s, that are easier to produce, or other pieces of hardware.

>It's nothing like it used to be during the USSR days.
The USSR had considerably more industrial capacity than the RF has today.
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>>517117879
I think APC/IFV armor will remain where it is to resist artillery shrapnel. The drones will be countered by automatic guns/anti-drone drones/mini missiles etc.
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>>517118109
Just heat it up with some FABs, no?
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>>517115810
Where does this "just fucking lie" tactica come from?
At least when others make maps like that they use historical claims, even if they are questionable, but this is just completely made up in almost all direction.
He deserves the chalice for this as punishment.
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>>517118238
bro what are you talking about it havent eentered large scale production. its better to scrap whole thing.
russia is not even using tanks as of now, at least not in dense urban battles of donbass, there been armored pushes in kherson and zaporozhye. reason being armor is not surviviable enough and not worth to be fielded in drone-heavy sectors.
theres are plenty systems against drones, they all just not very efficient.
why build tanks at all if you can build more drones.
meta is not tank-favoring.
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>>517118018
Oh my dear child, fear a hag in a young girl’s game
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>>517118052
>ugly mutt homosexuals
Isn't the US 56% white and 9% homosexual
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>>517117775
>All that MATTERS in REAL wars is quantities not quality.
I mean you're kinda right, but also dead wrong. In terms TFR, the only countries that has meaningfully better TFR/Demographics are turd world countries with militaries that make the fucking IDF look hypercompetent by comparison. In terms of military industrial production? Russia, by some margin, sometimes a huge margin, beats all of NATO combined in every category except aircraft.
>The vehicle can be reconfigured taking in the lessons learned from this conflict.
The hard-kill APS more or less does cover 360 degrees (or at least like 240-ish degrees) but only in a mostly vertical plane. That means tank rounds, most but not all ATGMs, and certainly not all drone attacks. The hard-kill APS does have the incredible capacity to degrade the penetration of kinetic penetrators (APFSDS) but once again, it is not incredibly useful if tank-on-tank is rare. So what the tank needs is an additional, less capable, APS system to deal with drones. Which I think they are adding to the T-14, but obviously this is all shrouded in secrecy. In the end though, the trvth of the quantity over quality argument means just focusing on the T-90M for new hulls is infinitely more practical for now.
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Do you ever wonder if shills are actually AFU returned from the frontlines because of amputations? They get paid of shill online because peremoga is zog's greatest weapon.

Call centers full of indians too I guess.
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>>517118046
>>517118137
I remember a few years ago some Anon was effortposting a lot about the US losing the ability to make more F-22s and A-10 Thunderbolt IIs.
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>>517118633
we are living in post-truth societies. just make up whatever you feel like.
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>>517118252
>its a small scale war compared to russian doctrine
That's true.
But you shouldn't assume that this will always be the case for other wars that will be coming in the near future.
Russia is surrounded by NATO and a new "Ukraine" situation could be created at any moment from all the American puppet states around Russia.
Also, at scale production would give Russia a good source of income, the world we live in is very unstable and if Russia could sell her gear at low prices (thanks to industries of scale) to shithole countries as well as proxies, it would be wonderful.
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>>517118807
no they cannot speak english. only russia has such enlightened educated and philosophic soldiers as rem
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>>517117040
CLUSTER MEGA BOMBS
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>>517118810
There have been stories circulating about the F-22 being really complex to manufacture and the US MIC losing capacity to do so after people retired, always fun to read these theories.

And there are stories about how F-22s used to be stealth but after some year, I think 2015, they start coming back from repair without stealth capacity.

There are also stories about the US losing the capacity to produce new Minuteman III.
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This is south of Zaporizhzhia looking south from the north side of the Konka River. The Russians would have to cross that plain.
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>>517118588
>The USSR had considerably more industrial capacity than the RF has today
Exactly my point.
The RF needs to start matching the USSR in terms of industrial capacities.
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>>517117879
look at the video footage from the last half year, tank usage has dried up massivly. Even the turtel tanks, while the offer protection they still get imobilized easily.
Tanks now are usualy used on the hohol side to clear the infiltarton squads, more often than not get squated by drones themselfs after wards.

A "viable" machanized assautl is the one you don't see coming, else you get fucked up. In this day and age when you have dozen of scout drones everywhere there is no chance for something like that happening anymore and it will get far worse in the future with how much survailance is on the battle field.
Doesn't matter how good of your vehicle is armored you run either into constrains of weight were it has no mobility, or you have to make sacrifices to keep mobility up and get its weakpoints targeted.


ALso we haven't even scratched on the surface on drone warfare, the talk about drone carriers? Now thats were we get on the level were it gets scary, when a platfrom that can deliver 100+ fpv drones in one go, can decimate such attack in an instnat.
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>>517116904
>Aight /chug/ what do you think about Serbian modernised m-84 AS3?
Early T-72M1 who trying LARPing as T-90M
>I need some proper autists to explain to me what is new and why since all pundits posting about it are retards.
This shit have some common T-series issues but have bunch of new we didn't have.
>Shitty sight
>No normal panoramic sight for commander
>"Softkill" APS didn't have any difference from Shtora-1 and didn't have LWR like Shtora-2 from T-90M
>ERA basically domestic Kontakt-5
>1000HP engine. 1200HP only in a wet dream
>""Hard"kill" APS looks like TEMU (((Trophy)))
Retarded twin of T-72B3 ACKtually
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>>517117040
>cluster munitions from the DPRK
Kim is doing his part.
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>>517115810
These uppity hohols forget that their supposed clay belonged to the Ancient Fingolian Kingdom long before any Russian or Hohol settled their land. Therefore they should return their clay to their superior Finnish overlords who only lost that territory as result of total collapse caused by the ancient Finno-Korean hyperwar
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https://t.me/SergeyKolyasnikov/72541

Jesus fucking Christ
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>>517115810
>zero claims toward poland where actual ethnic claim (although incredibly retarded but still some basis in reality)
kek
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>>517118915
thats terrible judgements. ukranny is the largest country in europe. it completely exhausted western arsenals to the points where usa wont be able to engage china in 3-10 years (by their prognosis), but in reality never cos they lost window where they were in any way comparable to chink mic and are going to be eclipsed. theres no such thing like ukranny and theres no arsenals to support it, after this war there would be a long piss. it always happens.
as for other threats, sure you right, no war is like the other, but as of now, seems like democratic way of war where you just manufacture shitloads of missiles (and geran is a cheap cruise missile) and throw them into enemy is meta. as I have noted new tanks need to be designed from ground up to survive drones. if produced at all because they dont seem to be cost effective at all.
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>>517119270
>it completely exhausted western arsenals to the points where usa wont be able to engage china in 3-10 years (by their prognosis)
Even at sea? Even if nukes fly?
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mahjong furry can your beast of a gaming pc play borderlands 3?
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>>517118643
>and not worth to be fielded in drone-heavy sectors.
How difficult it is to just strap a machine gun with some optical radars and laser/radar (for fire control) to the Armour so as as to deal effectively with slow moving drones?
> theres are plenty systems against drones, they all just not very efficient.
Because most of them are ad-hoc shit, rather than ones build and tested and than rolled out at scale by Russian industries.
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>>517115810
>Russia started to steal
Can confirm, but we took those lands from poles, balts, austro-hungarians and roaches, no idea what it had to do with whohols.
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>>517117426
>In SMO practice armor enough to mounted some great ERA like Relict is far more greater rather than 1488mm against kinetic in front
Right, all around protection from shaped charges is more important than frontal protection against the heaviest wursting weapons. But you need a pretty heavy vehicle to achieve this, you're not going to be able to mount all around ERA on a BMP-2 or even a Brapley. They definitely should implement the upgrade package they developted for the BMP-3, but even that is not really sufficient. In this regard, the T-14/T-15 platform is not really optimized, but it's honestly still workable. The t-90 is honestly a great design in this regard, considering it's a 3rd generation MBT built essentially as an upgrade to a 2nd generation MBT.
>it's not able to engage more than 12 targets i n one direction
lmao
>and it struggle to detect small low speed targets like drone
More of a design choice than an engineering limitation. An in service t-14/t-15 would obviously be modified to deal with drones. But really what it would need is a secondary, less advanced APS to deal with top attack munitions (i.e. drones, NATO ATGMs with a 99.8% miss rate are overrated as fuck)
>Not to mention that arming this vehicles with some programmed/proximity fuze 57mm cannon
Then that would have to be the main armament, Such weapons are not light at all.
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>>517116429
>Durrr, why is Russia making weapons to defeat the collective wect once and for all now rather than making speculative wunderwaffe for a potential future conflict?
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>>517119403
Sorry, but guess you meant 4...
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>>517115315
Hi Oryx
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>>517119403
maybe but that game is shit anyway
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>>517119403
>ever playing that dogshit
>ever touching that hot garbage

...sigh...typical Breflagposter...sheesh.
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>>517115983
>The western MIC has no real interest in reducing costs
The mutt system of paying cost plus 10% tip means they have the exact opposite incentive - inflate the cost as much as possible to increase the tip
>F-35 would be significantly cheaper if production was centralised into a few areas
The fully mission incapable plane would have been cancelled and those responsible court martialed if every US electoral district didn't have jobs making a $100k lug nut for it
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>>517119270
Defeat in Ukraine would be very existential threat to EU because it would result to lot of uncomfortable questions being asked like "what was all that money and tanking our production for?" EU countries are already increasingly unstable due to domestic demographic tensions with lot of them edging closer and closer to potential civil war conditions (increasing elite overproduction resulting into tons of disgruntled elite aspirants/counter elites ready to channel the disgruntled masses into revolution against the respective governments) with US increasingly isolationist and unwilling to rein the prospective revolutionaries in. Hell, parts of US elite seem to wish that EU would descend into revolutionary fervor against the current ruling classes.

For better or worse, the EU ruling caste has tied their own fortunes to Ukraine's. When Ukranda inevitably loses, Europe is going to have fun time as well
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>>517118723
>the only countries that has meaningfully better TFR/Demographics are turd world countries
3rd world countries are mostly vassalised, the comparison doesn't apply.
> Russia, by some margin, sometimes a huge margin, beats all of NATO combined in every category except aircraft.
The comparison is idiotic.
NATO has a monopoly on global labour through the USD reserve currency scheme, thus they can be raw resources from thirdies and have the East Asians make them into finished products.
Russia does not have such luxury, it can only rely on Russians.
> So what the tank needs is an additional, less capable, APS system to deal with drones.
Why not reconfigure to also deal with the small slow moving projectiles thrown by drones?
It should be easier to intercept than a fucking APFDS round coming at you at MACH fucking 4.
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I believe the bridge of over the Konka (Кoнкa) River was destroyed this week.
47.685661551493034, 35.33539576716994

It is a unwritten rule that Russians destory bridges 10km from their forces so they must be at least that close.
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>>517119623
not even nasa pc can handle that pos
>>517119927
its cringe millenial phaggot writing reddit the game but the gameplay is fun :D
>>517119954
wtf is breflag
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>>517116964
Blacc LAgoon was never good. You can't change my mind, because I actually watched that garbage dogshit.
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>>517120064
>parts of US elite seem to wish that EU would descend into revolutionary fervor against the current ruling classes.
The averagenative german is over 50+ years old. Who the fuck is going to rebel? The immigrants?
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>>517116912
Well, it IS Mongolia, sooo...
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>>517119403
>borderlands 3
Play better coop games, furfat.
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>>517120133
The moment I saw the FL dual wielding pistols I dropped that shit I found it cringe desu
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>>517119270
>ukranny is the largest country in europe. it completely exhausted western arsenals to the points where usa wont be able to engage china in 3-10 years (by their prognosis), but in reality never cos they lost window where they were in any way comparable to chink mic and are going to be eclipsed. theres no such thing like ukranny and theres no arsenals to support it, after this war there would be a long piss. it always happens.
What you say is only partially true.
The USD scheme allows the US the great privilege of being able to hire endless hordes of cannon fodder to be used against Russia.
Ukraine maybe huge but it has the WORST demographics in Europe, yet America has no problem keeping it up to grind the Russians.
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>>517118591
I kinda doubt the technology is there yet, or even really particularly close. I'll call this a maybe. I do think that having a 360-degree bubble of hard-kill APS seems more doable. But hard-kill APS also has a lot of question marks around it in terms of efficacy.
>>517119057
But that's mostly because they're used at quite a range. Basically like semi-direct fire support. Also when you 'see' Russian tanks, that's usually because they were targeted by hohols. The fact that you 'see' less of it can also be attributed to more effective Russian EW/Jamming.
>drone carriers
Yes, instead of bringing drones along with the infantry, let's put them all together in a single big drone that 70s-era SAMs can eat for breakfast
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>>517120088
>wtf is breflag
You can't be serious, newfag zoom-zoom cuckhole-kouhai:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-tebCXp64c
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>>517119015
That's why Rubicon is focused on taking out the Baba Yaga drones.
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>>517118708
kek well played
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>>517120415
i did that
say thank you
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>>517120415
I should be sleeping right now but the hohol faggot demonstrated that even when I thought he couldnt be more retarded, he will find a way to surprise me
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>>517120415
we didnt have that here.
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>>517120210
>The immigrants?
exactly for that purpose they were imported, when gibts stop, voilence is starting, not against the elites but against those 50-60 year old boomers, the outfall will be a wiped clean slate for the pension system (majority of 60+ year olds will be dead, probably most of them will be disposed in camps).

Than its a game of who of the younger ones make it, if you think the elites care what religion there is, than you are wrong. They just work under it and live by their own rules.
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>>517119495
>How difficult it is to just strap a machine gun with some optical radars and laser/radar (for fire control) to the Armour so as as to deal effectively with slow moving drones?
apparently impossible
drones might be slow moving but you need to consider that they are very small and they can attack at any angles, including dead above 65-90 deadzone above any turret. also bullets dont move instantly and have scatter. so you need lazers. but lazers need energy and clear weather conditions. and even then - if you design wunderwaffe lazer turret which supresses drones, drones will come in wulf pack and even if that werent bad enough, drones can just fly slightly above earth, attacking "from under" in a deadzone of all tank weapons, aiming for driving wheels and tracks. and once tank is mobility killed, more drones will come to finish the job. at the end you are losing your expensive tank ot a bunch of toy drones with rpg grenades duct-taped to them. thats never going to be a good exchange.
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>>517117040
But American cluster munitions used by Okraina do not in fact pose a risk to civilians.
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>>517120210
AFD is already mainstream party and popular enough that the German government has to resort to assassinating their candidates. There's still enough young Germans, especially in the former East Germany to trigger civil war over there as well. And its not really the Germany which is going to have the spiciest time, you'd have to look for other countries like France, UK or Spain for that.
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>>517120545
i have seen this ad before i just didnt bother remembering its called bref or some shit retard
go drink some kumis and ride horses instead of sitting here all day
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>>517120565
>here
Where in the FUCK are you in Oinkurine, where you "didn't have that"? That shit aired on UKrain's national TV, all channels. Not for long (it lasted about ~2 weeks before being pulled), but that shit WAS witnessed by MILLIONS.
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>>517120356
>yet America has no problem
thats not true
they are forcing 60yo into armyy, pig catching since late '22 with busses and then hyhyls still dsesert en masse. just a day ago entire fresh formation of hyhyls deserted cos they dont see point in fighting lost war. its not working.
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>>517120565
Why not?
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>>517119495
I don't think Armata is a cost-effective platform.
The delays on the Armata allow adjustments. If it would have been on mass production in 2020 already, like initially targeted, they would have spent tons of money and effort to replace tanks, just before learning how modern warfare is fought, and then having to modify them again.
Also they would have sold the existing stock to other countries and those would have resold them into Ukraine.

A T-90 with a cope cage will perform better than an Armata in the initial configuration, without one.
Drones could be just a temporary threat, in a few years time, we could have systems that BTFO them, since they are fragile.
And i think NAFO could be relying on drones so hard because they don't have any good artillery anymore and the HIMARS are sparse. So in a future confrontation, the meta might be a different one yet again.

Replacing a fleet of multiple thousands of tanks with the next generation should be well executed and thought through. It is better to even have 20 years of delay, rather than to field a new platform for the sake of it and then having to replace it immediately again.
You don't want to have a total failure like the USA with the Booker. And there is no rush currently.
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>>517120499
>i did that
???
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>>517119115
apparently hohols are doing what should have been done to them a long time ago
>>517120695
fuck off, doublenigger sissy. go outside for a jog or something instead of telling normal people what to do
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>>517120796
i really dont remember this ad being on our TV but i only watched some cartoon channels like a sigma
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>>517120077
>3rd world countries are mostly vassalised, the comparison doesn't apply.
Well, sure. I'll even grant you that Hamas and Hezbollah (god grant them strength) has fought largely competently, though keep in mind they're fighting cowardly kikes.
>NATO has a monopoly
This is irrelevant. No thirdie countries have barrel forges, armorcasting and welding industry, shell foundries, aeroplane factories, and so on and so fourth. Only China, Russia, and to a much lesser degree, the US, the Koreas and a few eastern EU countries have any significant military industrial capacity.
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>>517120911
ok but why are you so mean
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>>517117040
Shredding ziggers with cluster wunderwaffles status?
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>>517120077
>Hard-kill APS
>Why not reconfigure to also deal with the small slow moving projectiles thrown by drones?
Obviously that would be done, in fact I would be surprised if it hasn't, but it can't deal with targets coming in from above.
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>>517119270
>ukranny is the largest country in europe

Second largest.
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>>517115103
Scenes of gas shortages in occupied crimea
https://files.catbox.moe/2l7iek.mp4
Fucking scummy muscovites are suffering, and this will only get worse.
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>>517118052
What's your name? Abraham Winchester?
jk. Is it Sergio Ramirez?
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>>517121005
just hate furries, nothing personal
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>>517119059
I mean, it's something if the serbs answer to kontakt-5 is any good.
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Hey russian faggots, enjoying the fuel shortages yet? What happened to your air defense?

https://iz.ru/1960004/pavel-vikhrov/svernuli-na-bak-azs-stali-ogranichivat-obemy-otpuska-benzina

Buckle up. It's only gonna get worse for you from here on out
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>>517120591
>but you need to consider that they are very small and they can attack at any angles
They can still be detected via optical system.
The kill chain is as follows.
> Rotating cameras covering all side
> Once an anomaly is detected, a radar is activated.
> A fire solution is decided upon.
> Either a gun or a small missile is directed towards the drone.
This isn't hard AT ALL.
Russia build WAY more sophisticated equipment in the past.
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>>517120924
Answer the question, wiggling faggot: WHERE the fuck are you from. I was visiting Belaya Tserkov in 2013 and I saw it on TV (1+1, if I recall correctly).
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>>517121042
>Kazakhstan is the 9th largest country in the world
>not on the list
>fucking Japan is
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>>517115810
>We wuz Circassians n sheit
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>>517120675
>AFD
Kosher opposition. Wont change anything
>>517120582
Nobody will make it. Its just collective suicide at this point. Europe is fucked
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>>517118995
>There are also stories about the US losing the capacity to produce new Minuteman III.
They also had to reverse engineer some sponge-like material that they lost the technology to make after the nuclear warhead components made out of it failed due to age. AFAIK they haven't re-tested the warheads after the replacement material was developed and the components replaced, so it's possible their nooooks actually do not work.
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>>517116371
Any sort of identification between a modern nationalist movement and a fucking BRONZE AGE MATERIAL CULTURE is retarded unless your name is China.
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>>517121109
that's why you should totally like Arirals, the word is, their skin is so smooth they don't even need to shave
also your furrychart is obviously wrong because it charts human to animal transition, but Arirals are not humans they are completely separate alien race and shouldn't be judgen be mere human standards
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>>517121042
im not a furry thoughbeit
>>517121199
stop being mean and ill answer!!! or maybe not
https://files.catbox.moe/zq5zka.mp4
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>517121135
oh nooo, not last years peremoga... nooo... the resource rich country will totally run out of fuel any day now... just like last year
The guy with the German flag who understands Russian and Ukrainian (but definitelly isn't a draft dodging refugee who betrayed his homeland) says so.
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>>517119749
>inb4 the Turk shill from /sg/, /chug/ and /pig/ was actually Oryx all along
>His copes about 6 different angles of a damaged tank means that Russia has 6 visually confirmed™ losses
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>>517121090
Uncanny resemblance.
Almost like they are of the same tribe...
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Is your anus prepared for the next peremoga, /chug/?
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>>517118710
20% of mutt zoomers are faggots
Real Weimar stuff
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>>517116429
It's an outdated design, it'll be scrapped and replaced.
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>>517119522
>But you need a pretty heavy vehicle to achieve this.
In fact no, you didn't need make huge ass IFV to mount great amount of good ERA. Same Relict for T-90M with ALL additional modules weight less than 3 tonnes. On same Kurganets-25 it would be enough. >you're not going to be able to mount all around ERA on a BMP-2 or even a Brapley
Because they didn't designed to carry any additional armor. BRAPley development was a shitshow from the start and BMP-2 designed as amphibious IFV without retardency with armament like on BMP-1. But even when BMP-2 entered the service in Afghanistan it was obvious that it didn't have enough protection so BMP-2D was born(and instantly forget because SU (de)generals thinks that this issue would be only in counter insurgency activity)
>>it's not able to engage more than 12 targets i n one direction
>lmao
Well I forget to talk that overall number of targets. If APS would have 100% interception rate. In fact same T-90M's able to endure like 16 drones simply because being a turtle with all this amount of ERA.
>More of a design choice than an engineering limitation
That's both design limitation AND choice.
As I said earlier whole Armata family designed to Cold War type of warfate. No one give technical request on spotting 200 km/h flying piece of carbonfiber with RPG warhead.
>Then that would have to be the main armament, Such weapons are not light at all.
I'm not asking add 57mm as a companion to 30mm. If you need so just rape another BMOP/BMPT "Ramka"/"Terminator". Also same 57mm guns already tested on Kurganets
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>>517120364
>that 70s-era SAMs can eat for breakfast
so how close do you want to put your sam to the front. Its the same problem the hurkers have with fabs.
Russians dropping fabs all day and piggers can't do shit, they could try to intercept them with their own fighter planes and take more loses, or try to move long range SAMs into range which will get bombed.

FPV drones can operate 60-70km from the relay point and fiber optics one up to 40km (probably even longer when the drones increase in size).
Well out of the range of any SHORAD and most mobile medium range systems like BUKs.

And the system is cheap, so what do you want to sacrifice for it?
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>>517120133
>black lagoon was never good
Your opinion is disregarded sir
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>>517121387
>stop being mean
To a FUCKING BREFLAG? How about NO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rkn-xqhSDc
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>>517118099
George BETRAYED the collective wect by refusing to genocide its entire population like Ukranda!
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>>517120582
Nothing will happen. The right is cucked to oblivion.
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>>517120133
let the truth shine through
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>>517120133
based.. Jormungand is better. I agree!
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>>517121135
>Buckle up. It's only gonna get worse for you from here on out
kek, piggers have been doing more successful attack in 2024... yet strangly there ist still no shortage.

Someone post the 880 million damage in russian infrastructure damage tweet.
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>>517121510
I'm Russian and Balalaika sucks ass. My opinion IS the only legitimate one in regards to this.
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>>517121354
>completely separate alien race
they're just space cat furries and you're lying to yourself. this way of thinking will make you conclude that femboys/ladyboys are a completely separate sex and thus when you blow them its totally not gay.
why cant you like regular ГOCT catgirls like normal people?
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>>517121211
Who cares. Point is, russians are a dying sack of shit race. The world laughs daily at them dying as a breed and squandering their hydrocarbons in order to self suicide.. The asiatics will definitely benefit from this, though. So this won't bother you. TRD.
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>>517121197
but why?
you are coming from the point of building wunderwaffe, again.
why?
just build more drones and its cheeky breeky i v damke.
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>517121441
Zion Don isn't really that different from Biden.
Should I really hate an old, senile man for talking shit?
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>>517121638
...the what?
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>>517121556
japs are fake and gay thoughbeit
listen to this instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWyTOo9V9RE
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>>517121556
also fuck you
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>>517121649
NAGA
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>>517121727
>wunderwaffe
Not talking about wunderwaffe, talking about integrating a solution to a persistent battlefield problem onto existing Russian Armour.
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>>517121398
niggeria would sooner run out of niggers than russia runs out of fuel.
not to mention that russian army and logistics uses disel.
not to mention disparity between damage done in attacks is 200bil+ for russia against ukranny and 1bil for ukranny against russia.
look at that refinery tank flaring up it mans big fire=big damage
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>>517121638
... no
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>>517121801
Por que no los dos?
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>>517121727
>just build more drones and its cheeky breeky i v damke.
So you can advance more effectively and quickly while taking little to no casualties.
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>>517117775
I thought you were the IDF border patrol, not the Communist Egyptian.
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>>517121915
its always at 100 for you lil chud
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>>517121896
Ah, right. Indeed.
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>>517120356
>The USD scheme allows the US the great privilege of being able to hire endless hordes of cannon fodder to be used against Russia
Then why don't they? They managed to hire something like 50k mercs in total, that's like 12 days' worth of Ukrandan casualties. They need literal millions of combat thralls just to lose slowly.
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>>517121134
Well still Kontakt-5 is the past and now best ERA is Relict and potentially same Malahit if it endures all growing pain
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>>517120133
Most people who repeat that its very good are those who heard from their friends that its good and then said "yeah it was good" so they wont look like they dont get it and have shit taste.
And now they've been keeping up the charade for so long they forgot how it all started.
Balalaika is клюквa, the maid is retarded.
In any case, Black Lagoon isnt terrible, but its mid at best.
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>>517121657
Russians have a higher fertility rate than white Americans
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>>517121940
Fair point. Love Slayers me but only if Naga is in it.
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>>517121896
maybe the last good thing germoney has done
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>>517121042
>63%
Sadly, that extra ratio comes from the gigantic surplus of 50-60+ year old hags, while the percentage of men in teen/middle age segments is higher. Nice try though, seething expatmutt.
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>>517121793
Literally you for the last 21 years:
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>>517120133
it has good characters and writings but situations they end up in are completey retarded, even from anime standpoint, from ramming boat into helicopter to fighting nazi remnants (what its helsing?) to other giga retarded bullshit its all very off-putting. It would be much better off without this over-the-top retardation, cos it tries to push serious "dark fantasy" themes but then whips out glowing dildo-shaped lightsabers and demands to be taken seriously.
>>517120306
its anime retard
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>>517121628
Shuddup!
How before your Airborne Queen

>>517120490
Assassin/Spy vs VDV Kapitan
Who wins, only one can imagine
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>>517122080
you're talking to a roach. he doesnt give a shit about white americans. I really despise the term "white". It was created by zionists to erase national cultures and identity, so it would be easier to send them the way of the dodo.
I am a Kazakh and I would stab any person with a big nose and a funny name telling me that I should call myself brown instead.
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>>517122132
>he's too young to know
>he's too young to remember
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>>517122149
пpичинa тpяcки?
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>>517121896
Don't let the hohols see this:
https://files.catbox.moe/pc1g1z.mp4
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>>517121441
Oh hell yeah
Hyhyls are gona PROOOOB and THUNDOOOOOOR again
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>>517122305
you might actually be onto something here.
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>>517121580
>18-39yo
They chose the bracket like this, because <20 are naturally far more pro-change, pro-political-violence and revolutionary.
In reality it is actually far worse and 75% or more of 18 year old liberals would say Yes.
They screwed it to make it look less extreme.
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>>517122162
>it has good characters and writings
lol FUCKNO. That shit is GARBAGE.
Almost as bad as Elfen Lied.
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>>517122132
we also made klitchko you mayor :^)
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>>517122162
also as other anon noted it takes notion of that being traitor is good. its often used trope and completely mindless. its okay I guess if you are just a grunt and you decide you had enough and even then you are betraying your comrades which you put in danger cos they are relying on you. but if you are big wig and you get episode during battle you doom hundreds, thousands, which need your orders to death. theres really no higher crime than this, from any standpoint.
death to all traitors.
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>>517121647
>there is no shortage
Why do you insist on lying.

https://iz.ru/1960004/pavel-vikhrov/svernuli-na-bak-azs-stali-ogranichivat-obemy-otpuska-benzina
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>>517122400
nah its good
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>>517122392
No. It shows that young left-wingers are more and more socialist instead of liberal.
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>>517122302
>no msn/youtube link
>no capitalization
>furious seething
>catbox
Nah, this ain't roach, chief, that's expat pidorashka fighting the good fight on the internets.
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>>517122439
>death to all traitors.
dont say that...
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>>517122302
North Americans of European descent are muttified to the point where most of us don't really have a coherent ethnic background. We've been here for long enough that we've lost touch with our European roots. Therefore calling ourselves white is apt.
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>>517122379
My family lived in Germany (Wittstock/Dosse, a.k.a. "Wittstock on the Dosse river", Brandenburg) from 1982 to 1992. Believe me, I've SEEN some shit:
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>>517121735
not really, it should have been expected
there's just something about america that consistently produces these kind of people
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>I really despise the term "white". It was created by zionists to erase national cultures and identity, so it would be easier to send them the way of the dodo.
High IQ take
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>>517122305
man ist der niggerdickman
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>>517122400
>Almost as bad as Elfen Lied.
Elfen Lied was funny tho
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>>517122565
>there's just something about america that consistently produces these kind of people
It's the first Judeo-Christian country in the world
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>>517122162
>ramming boat into helicopter
thats the only good part and the only part I've ever seen anyone mention to recommend how great the show is.
>>517122400
EL was peak comedy. I wish was drinking whiskeys back when I watched it.
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>>517122497
Shiteater. You undoubtedly have crappy taste in picking onemoo/mango. You want BETTER and WASTLY SUPERIOR "Blacc LAGoon"? Watch Chinese anime called Yi Ren Zhi Xia. That shit is GENUINELY "Black Lagoon, but GOOD".
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>>517121918
I have not watched any of these animes but I have never seen a criminal/mafia main character be worth the crimes they commit. Robin Hood doesn't count.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLhYSw67pdg
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>>517115103
Is Russia ready for the big offensive?
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me meeting ryan gosling be like
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>>517122302
Every time when i say that there is no such thing as a "white nationalist" because "white" is not a nationality and means nothing... or that i am not the same as a Polack, that a Spaniard is different from a Swede and that "European" isn't a single nationality... i get incredible sperg-outs either by a butthurt belter or by some South American.
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>>517122616
>>517122721
Only if you riff the fuck off of it in a company of drunk buddies with doritos, mountain dew, and sheit.
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>>517122673
sad!
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>>517115240
>sends Whites into ukraine
>to kill Whites and replace them
>gives chechens special treatment
>jails nationalists and Pro-White identitarians

We have a goycattle on both sides
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>>517120925
>No thirdie countries have barrel forges, armorcasting and welding industry, shell foundries, aeroplane factories, and so on and so fourth.
True but they have cannon fodder poppulations, that can be equipped by the mutts.
And China still to this day accepts USD as payment so their MASSIVE industrial capacities can be put to good use.
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>>517122845
>Just two kikes shaking shekels.
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>>517122961
Oldie, but goodie:
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>>517121016
>but it can't deal with targets coming in from above.
Than it should be configured to do so. See >>517121197
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>>517122962
>they have cannon fodder poppulations, that can be equipped by the mutts
With?
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>>517122558
yeah, thats why the term white was invented and as we can see its been an outstanding success to the merchant.
>>517122561
>>517122918
thats how garbage like that used to be watched from pirated cd-rs with self printed labels that you got from guy/gal whos older brother/father burns and distributes. Back then every school/uni had at leas one of those.
I still remember the fat stack of the full X-Files collection. Probably still have it somewhere.
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>>517122962
>And China still to this day accepts USD as payment so their MASSIVE industrial capacities can be put to good use
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>>517119059
>1000HP engine. 1200HP only in a wet dream
Worse. 840 HP engine. 1000/1200 HP engine is a vaporwave of old mechanics who were working on developing Vihor before the war happened but the research was never fully finished. Sometimes that 840 HP engine is mislabeled as 1000hp due to some turbocharger upgrades. Also transmission is old. We literally have no factories who can do this modernisation.

There is a lot of talking about simply buying a new tank from others since our factories are derelict. Chinese ZTZs, Russian whatever and Korean K2 are most talked about
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>chinks made orban and vucic speak in english for interview
>chinks allow Pezeshkian, Putin and Assad speak their own language during interview
looks like iran is fully on board now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JX8dc1Dphs
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>>517122921
>implying they give a single look at the Orthodox and Maronite millennia old churches instead of going straight for the kike wall of kowtowing
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>>517122608
>t. Part of your world

Part of YOUR world, indeed:
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>>517122594
>It was created by zionists to erase national cultures and identity
Not really. It's a unifying mutt umbrella term, to somehow find something in common between the 50 shades of european immigrants that form american nation. But then being the dominant culture for almost half a century mutts managed to sell the downgraded version of ethnicity back to europe.
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>>517122921
That's a great way to put it
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>>517122917
Belters are the worst, bosmang. I really grinds their gears that blonde russians are way more nordic genetically than them.
Also I love to ask them "Who and why banned latvians from banned from entering Riga until Russians bought the land?"
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>>517122305
niggers kisses :D
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Copenhagen Airport has been closed again due to AIDS (Acknowledged Informal Drone Sightings).
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>>517122917
I am white
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>>517122835
The big offensive is already happening
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>>517123234
>Worse. 840 HP
Then it's truly retarded brother of T-72B3 lol.
>mislabeled as 1000hp due to some turbocharger upgrades
Well if it reaches such power it means it's reached. Didn't see any nuance ACKtually
Also transmission of T-series always has been weak point due retarded decision of taking power on peripheral systems.
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>>517122921
what does this mean? i'm not a christcuck
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>>517122471
WHAT KOT DOING
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>>517123437
God evangelicals make me want to fucking vomit
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>>517122921
Kek.
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>>517121500
I mean, you still need armor behind the ERA for it to be effective. If you want full coverage with great ERA (that can deal with tandem-charges and such) you pretty much need something in the MBT weight class.
>APS
Well the the thing is both hard-kill APS and ERA blocks are 'consumed' after being hit. One might argue you'd want both, if the hard-kill APS can be made not to displace the ERA blocks. And then maybe also make it a turtle using slat armor and such (and/or an AI anti-drone MG if that can be made to work). Slat armor and drone turret is probably going to have a success rate of stopping an incoming munition very far south of 100%, but it's not 'consumed' with each hit, and then the ERA or APS underneath would be the final barrier. Of course you can't really combine turtle-slat armor with hard-kill APS. I dunno, in the end I think if you want competent all-around ERA coverage you're gonna need something reasonably heavy, especially if you want slat armor on top of the ERA (and you do). If you want something lighter I reckon the only good option you have is APS + an AI MG and I just don't know if that'll work. And it will still be expensive. So just go with the heavy vehicle that you can put a mine roller in front of.
>As I said earlier whole Armata family is designed to Cold War type of warfare
I mean yeah. I'd say if they decide to put it in service, the Afghanit hard-kill APS will be made to also intercept drones. But the vehicle is just not really optimized for drone warfare. It still has some nice features, and with enough haphazard upgrades slapped on top it could probably work, but... yeah. Not really an efficient design for the latest generation of warfare. Though to play devil's advocate, NATO are nowhere near actually adopting modern drone warfare. So a hypothetical NATO-Russia war might be them zerg-rushing abraps and leotards in which case the t-14 would be fucking ace.
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>>517123662
see >>517123437
american evangelism to put it mildly, is its own form of horror and perversion
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>>517122558
And those would become their own nationality eventually, if they would emancipate from Europe.
The USA spent most of its existence as the little brother of Europe. Only gaining independence when Napoleon took on the Brits. Then they were deliberately separated. The country where you could go to do your own thing. That was the American dream.
The USA only became a common unity after the civil war.
Then after the world wars it became the "leader of the Western world", so again strongly connected to Europe.
The USA only had the time from 1865 to 1914 to build their own identity. Only 49 years. That isn't a lot. That is barely more than hohols had.

So rather than acting as an own entity, and building their own nation, the USA acts as a gray soup mulatto mix of all European nationalities. And that is how "white" Americans define themselves.
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>>517123771
I really wish I had webmrel without the text at the bottom
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so how did Trump come to vomit VERBATIM the /k/ script literally word-for-word

who is feeding him that /k/ nigger dogshit talking points?
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>>517123557
It's ayys again, and “journalists” are already parroting NATO propaganda about “experimental drones”.
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>>517122089
I mean, come on, now:
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>>517123383
>It's a unifying mutt umbrella term
Created by those who run america (hint, the name starts with a z).
Although you are partially right - the settlers and immigrants tended to bunch up into ethnic enclaves and fight each other aa lot. So the term was forced, but not to unify, instead to gentrify and control since it still divides the country into whites, blacks, spics and jeets. But these are easier to manipulate into a constant state of mutual distrust and tension, unable to organize together against the ruling clans.
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Could an offensive against Orikhiv and Hulyaipole at the same time be in the cards once the Russians can interdict the road of life for both?
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>>517123565
>I am white
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>>517123458
Actually, they're more Finnic, not more Nordic or more Slavic. Finnic peoples are very cool and based, but hohols want to deride them as “Asiatic mongoloids”.
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>>517123909
I'm guessing it's Lindsey the Bone Crusher, Kellogg the Cock Mangler and the Kike of Kiev
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>>517121504
hruk SAMs are what we might call 'history'
>FPV drones can operate 60-70km from the relay point
Some FPV drones can. And if you are managing to launch them 60-70km from the enemy lines, talk of drone-carrying aircraft is redundant. Just put them on the back of a fucking truck, that'll work as well and be cheaper.
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Good day and God bless.
Trump flopping in his stances like a fish out of the water, from hating Agent Z to blowing him off.

>North Jutland Police Chief Inspector Jesper Bøjgaard tells the press that drones are still flying in the airspace over Aalborg Airport.
https://t.me/rnintel/44762
>Zelenskyy and Al-Sharaa did meet each other today in New York today and signed an agreement to resume diplomatic relations between Syria and Ukraine after getting ceased since 2022.
https://t.me/medmannews/29997
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>>517124090
finns loke more like me than russians desu. its weird how there's an asiatic looking nation sandwitchs between europeoids.
I know a lot of based finns too (4, which makes around 17% of my personal estimation of the population of Finland)
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>>517124324
Well you are from Greater Turkistan.
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>>517124110
>I'm guessing it's Lindsey the Bone Crusher, Kellogg the Cock Mangler and the Kike of Kiev

but seriously...how ?
how in the FUCK could Trump go from the objectively correct stance in March throwing that rat out, to "the Crimean beach party is upon us!!!! 2 weeks to sevastopol!!"

its fucking batshit insane
to anyone with an ounce of sanity,
ukraine is a completely obliterated nation hanging on by a fucking thread, 1 Russian missile strike from going all winter with no power, water or lights....Trump MUST know that ....
yet

Trump is the most /k/ poster to ever /k/ post, from the highest office in the world literally parrotting the
>pic related
SHIT now

I fundamentally have no clue how anyone in europe, America or Asia could possibly think Crimea is going to be ukrainian clay in the near future..its absolutely ludicrous beyond measure
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>>517122530
hyhylyna bro traitros are in your goverment, they work against nation, they are jews. the fuck is wrong with you.
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>>517122962
I'm sorry but the idea of the US zerg-rushing Russia with pajeets and pakis is fucking retarded.
>And China still to this day accepts USD
Right but they're not selling them weapons, are they?
(They are selling civilian drones though, which are converted to weapons, but all the warheads comes from various diminishing stockpiles NATO has access to, that are not being replenished).
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>>517123475
Pronounce it properly: SUPER NIGGER MEN DICK KISSES! German's favorite snack for nearly a century!
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>>517124488
>how in the FUCK could Trump go from the objectively correct stance in March throwing that rat out, to "the Crimean beach party is upon us!!!! 2 weeks to sevastopol!!"
Orange cuck doesn't want to be seen as the loser president of a loser country that he is, so he's trying to shift the blame in all directions
>Byden's war
>Chyna and India and EU and NATO trading with Russia
>Butthurt belters and frogs and bongs didn't want to do a coalition of the willing meatwave
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>>517123896
The problem stems from multiculturalism. To be only "American" means you could be black, hispanic, white, etc. So what is the solution then?
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>Trump called the shutdown of the escalator at the UN sabotage, as well as the malfunctions of the teleprompter, and demanded that those responsible be detained.
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>>517124685
>Orange Nigger when he has to walk up the stairs
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>>517124484
We are not turks, we are nothing like turks.
This shit about turan is invented in britain and pushed by erdogan, aliev and other british lapdogs.
Dont fall for nafo propaganda
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>>517124673
>what is the solution then
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>>517124324
People around many places are not exactly Finnic, right? Slavs mixed a lot with Finns, Tatars, etc. depending on the place. Like, people in Kazan are kinda Russian looking, but at the same time sort of Tatar and Bulgarian. I have seen people from Kazakhstan in CS and DoTA that are either blue eyed blondes or outright Chinese looking. It's curious. But what's really interesting is how Russians bred a lot across all the steppes all the way to Vladivostok. Settlers and cossacks are good are having many kids.
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>>517123085
Take one look at the T-14 and you'll realize why that's not possible unless you add additional launchers. I mean obviously these launchers could be connected to the same RADARs that the existing system uses, but there's no reason why you'd make these additional launchers have the same capability as the main launchers if they're meant to just engage drones.
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>>517124654
In sweden we castrate niggers and eat their balls, we believe it gives us immortality.
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>>517124673
>multiculturalism
russia, iran, china have this worked out
it actually requires a bit of segregation
take the chechens for instance, they speak their own language and do their own thing in chechnya but outside of chechnya they are expected to and do speak russian and fit in with dominant society mostly
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>>517124685
why would putin do this?
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>>517123896
identity was made for them by the jews. they are judeo-christian goyim golem human farm which only exists to provide and fight for israel.
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>>517122333
I can only respect being this petty.
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>>517125043
kim wants her ass cos she never burned the coal
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>>517124846
>Slavs mixed a lot
thats why I specifically mentioned blonde or dirty blonde russians as a reference point. muttification is an unavidable consequence of being an empire
>that are either blue eyed blondes
probably russians
>>517124846
>outright Chinese looking
maybe some of the kazakhs, maybe the local koreans
here we dont mix much. there is some mixing but still there are very distinct visual archetypes. even north vs south ethnic kazakhs look extremely different
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>>517125043
>Greta wants ME to storm the Bilderberg group conference with 14 kg of ANFO strapped to my chest?
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>>517125088
>>517125088
>>517125088
FRESH BAKE
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>>517124066
I don’t look like that
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>>517125431
even if you dont, your kids will because you lost your identity
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>>517124947
The only thing you ever castrate is yourselves, dear swedecuck-kouhai. Karl XII. Karl. XII.
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>>517124769
roaches, what can I say
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>>517121455
What the fuck?
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>>517125582
Why are you more butthurt about poltava than me. That doesn't even make sense.
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>>517124673
The niggers in America build their own common culture. They see each other as their own thing, they don't see themselves as the same as African niggers and don't have some weird obsession with African countries. Slavery is their founding myth that separates them from their African ancestors.
And African niggers don't consider American niggers the same either.

I am not complaining that the USA as a whole isn't a common own nationality, but i rather meant the people who identify as "white".
"White" Americans are mixed to such a high amount that they have to do DNA tests to know from where they come from.
They could easily just accept that they are different and embrace it, rather than doing this dumb "white" LARP, which they then indirectly enforce over Europe as well.
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>>517123586
Ukraine's big offensive
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>>517126028
But African Americans still call themselves "black", just as white Americans call themselves "white".
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>>517124657
>Butthurt belters and frogs and bongs didn't want to do a coalition of the willing meatwave

but they do tho...or at least their leaders actively voice they do (im not sure what belter-tard citizens believe tho)

its still absolutely mind-boggling that Trump is now full delusional hyper-nafo now
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>>517115103
Reminder that the "no tail" posts are made by VPN niggers of a troon squad from iDrama and Valent Projects cuckademics to normalize furfag degeneracy across the board.
You're welcome.



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