How could you see this and then choose to worship a puny Jew on a stick. Pathetic!
that's capeshit, nigger
>>517272531>hurr durr i dont understand physics and biology so i HAD to have been created>"So who created the creator?">wut? thats fucking dumb, no one created the creator, he created himself from nothing forever ago and then created everything else from nothing randomly one dayThis is every cult member ("religious person")And their only recourse once you highlight this very uncomfortable fact is:1) Personal attack on you ("You are gay/jewish/demonic")or2) impotent proxy threat ("you're going to burn in hell")Fucking pathetic.
>>517273950Create life out of 'Elements' science man.Oh you can't? Why is that?
>>517272531That's his butt and poop comes from there
Looks like a gay porno.
>>517274208It's divine poop.
You need a passion of the Christ except for paganism. Thatd do a lot to spread the belief.
>>517272531Is gay porn the next Christian psyop?
>>517273950>no one created the creator, he created himselfNo you fucking retard. God is eternal thus uncreated. God has no beginning. How fucking retarded are you? Doesn't matter the kind of theism, me I'm not religious, but by DEFINITION god is ETERNAL aka UNCREATED aka ALWAYS HAS BEEN, IS, AND WILL BE.
>>517273950>You believe in God? That's crazy>I think everything appeared from nothing in a big bangOh do enlighten us some more redditor
>>517274278>divine poop!I'm gonna start saying this instead when I'm shocked/surprised by something.
>>517274077>>517274422Oh look the jew golems missed the point and think they're going to lecture me
>>517274521>Oh you think everything appeared from nothing in a big bang? Well I take it one unnecessary step further and say that god appeared from nothing in a big bang and then created everything from nothingThey're not sending their best
>>517274422>Special pleading memeflagLel
>>517272531that's my God
>>517273950So you're saying an endless series of creators is more logical than a sole creator?
>>517272531Thor is fake and gay
>>517274697So you're saying a creator is logica?
Why is /pol/ so gay?
>>517274777Well creation can't create itself.
thor is a literal crossdresser in asgardian mythology, and I am no talmudian sodomite to worship kikes.
>>517273950The Bible doesn't reject evolution and tge creation model is in line with current physics.
>>517274783Most of us are from/b/ in our youth and that page was constantly full of tranny porn
>>517274317It doesn't work. Pagan gods are all about war, conquest, storms and shit. They made a relatively accurate viking movie with the Northman and the normies complained that the protagonist, a viking berserker, wasn't heroic.
>>517274957>The Bible doesn't reject evolutionPlease tell me how making man from dirt is in line with evolution.
MOLOCH SUCKSI HATE THE ANTICHRISTI DENOUNCE THE TALMUDMARX IS NOT A GOD BUT THEIR FOLLOWERS TREAT COMMUNISM AS A RELIGION
>>517274957Not to side with the heathens in this thread, but it absolutely does.
>>517273950This.>>517274422>God is eternal thus uncreated. God has no beginning.So why can't you apply this to the universe then? If God doesn't need a creator, why does anything else?>>517274521Where did God come from then?
>>517274356... What?
>>517275242Why would an all-powerful being need a creator?
>>517275363If they make Thor look gay, I would prefer Jesus.
>>517275048And this is why christkikes think the christianity conquered the world. While most of these conquerors were illiterate people who still practiced paganism and were just told this new god called Jesus is the chief god now. And this is what these retards try to sell you as "true christianity".While the nowadays retardation of allowing migrants to rape your women and crying over some faggots being killed is the true christianity, and the age of conquest and age of discovery was just christianity on the paper and pagan in the soul.
>>517275620To exist.
>>517273950>le something came from nothing argument Kek
>>517275879So you're implying there needs to be an endless series of creators?
>>517275872This.Europeans hadn't even read the bible until late 1600's when the printing press was invented. Up to that point it was only in ancient Greek and Latin, dead languages that a couple hundred people on the entire continent could understand.The "christian" history of Europe has been spiritually native European for most of it. Now is actually the most christian time ever.
>>517276111I'm saying that if everything needs a creator then so does God. And if something (God) can exist without a creator, then so can the universe.
Nordics confirmed to have micropenis?
>>517272531People who talk about Thor are cringe. The entire Marvel universe is fucking cringe and it exists for manchildren that never grew up.Marvel is gay. Thor is gay. I refuse to watch Thor, the avengers, Spider-Man, super man, the hulk, or any other retarded marvel movies.The fact that you’re spending your Friday night making a Marvel movie thread on pol is pathetic OP I’m sorryThor is extremely gay, Loki is gay. It’s all very gay.
>>517276216No one said everything needs a creator, otherwise there would be an infinite series of creators. However, the universe itself does need a creator. Something cannot come from nothing.
>>517272531>>517272694>”that’s me. Thats the average Aussie”The worst part is when you meet a man who thinks he IS Thor. It’s even more cringe.Youre not Thor. Real life is not a fucking Marvel movie
>>517276572Thor is gay. The hulk is gay. Spider man is gay. Super man is gay. Loki is gay. The silver surfer is gay. The avengers are all gay. Wolverine is gay.It’s all extremely gay
I have no idea what a Thanos snap is, and I don’t care
>>517275797Thor is already gayChris Hemsworth is a cringe man child
>>517272531thor got eaten by a big snake
*deep voice* HI yes I am Chris Hemsworth I am from Australia eastern suburb representI have a beard and long hair i am very manly man and a hammer I am strong man Fun fact: this retard went to school down the road from me
>>517276580>Something cannot come from nothing>Muh god came from nothing!!Pretending to be retarded or actually retarded?
Chris youre a gay Hollywood boy stop cosplaying and sucking Hollywood dick and come back to heathmont buddy we didn’t forget when you were in the fucking saddle club KEK
Thor was a peasant god who came from the Middle East with Odin
>>517275087All abiogenesis models have organic matter coming from minerals.
Crikey this bloody horse is sick!
>>517275235You can only point to Adam, but Adam is an allegory for mankind gaining intellect.
good old heathmont aye Chris *flips hair*
>>517273950You're missing out on the real truth, God exists and He loves you a great deal.
>>517273950If you understood physics you could know that every effect has to have an efficient cause. Meaning nothing can come from nothing. Meaning there absolutely and necessarily has to be an eternal unmade first cause, or creator.
>>517277060God is eternal and has always existed and always will. God exists outside time. Paul talked about it. Anyways I'm not religious so don't rage reply to me I'll ignore
>>517272531His personal training team didn't even bother to roid out his legs?
>>517276712Only Hawkeye is not gay as he is the only one who has a wife and children.
>>517277147Who is the girl there
>>517277060Who said God "came" into existence?
>>517277409lmao
>>517277060>never read plato>never read aristotle>still pretends to know what he's talking aboutEmbarrassing, dude. There has never been a religion in history that posited that the creator made itself out of nothing. The argument has always been that the first cause is also the cause of time, meaning it exists outside of and prior to temporality. Which is not only logical, but logically necessary. It would have to be that way in order for time to even exist, because time itself is not the first principle.
>>517277409Lol, 3rd law of Newtonian dynamics tells you there isn't need for any creator nor first mover to have movement. If forces are 0 the body stays still or MOVES with constant speed. You do not have to have prime mover for anything as physics tell you objects can move without force.As usually a christkike with zero knowledge talks bullshit.
>>517275242>So why can't you apply this to the universe then? If God doesn't need a creator, why does anything else?You misunderstand the argument. They are applying it to the universe, because God is the universe. Or the universe is God. Which is all to say that the universe must be more than a collection of matter, because the universe contains more than just a collection of matter. If we have minds, then the universe must be a Mind.
>>517272531>gets mogged by a background character
>>517273950Fr. George Le Mairte in picture, the physicist and mathematician who reaonsed the singularity and the father of cosmology. A Belgian Catholic priest. Your take on Christianity is very flawed and seems based on your impression of inane protestant fundementalists. Go educate yourself. You can say we are in a simulation adn God is the programmer or be wiser and accept the truth without constraining it by analogies but God exists, its outside our concept of time, he commenced the universe and time for us, there is no infinite regression because time only commeced with the singularity. God exists and so do opponents to his will. You have free will and a brain. Use it. LeMairte did. N. offense but you sound as ill educated and stupid as people who deny the existence of dinosuars for similar reasons.
>>517272531Rusty was playing with him in that scene, displaying Kiwi mastery over the brute Aussie.
>>517272531Hemsworth is such a bad actor it’s insane >>517277468Lmao
>>517277654No, it doesn't. I don't think you understand the laws of physics at all, because nothing about that detracts from Aristotle's arguments. In fact, it confirms it.
>>517277654>If forces are 0 the body stays still or MOVES with constant speed.And where does this initial speed come from?
>>517277060No, they are just mind meltingly stupid. They change the definition of what ought to be to suit their needs. It's utterly pointless to try making them understand that the universe "needs" a creator is the same as God "needing" a creator. They're just arbitrarily deciding that one does and the other doesn't.
>>517272531Because they are the biggest cucks who get off on being persecuted
>>517277846Aristotele and Newton are 1700 years apart or even more.Maybe if you didn't stop your education at basics of primitive civilizations you would understand more how world works.>>517277849From the same place your creator comes from. It just is there. Hard to imagine right? But you have zero problems imagining old guy with beard pushing objects into motion.
>>517277853Or....you are ill educated and a stupid as protestant fundementalists >>517277821Improve yourself.Educate yourself.
>>517272531>worshipWhat kind of man "worships"? Sounds pretty weak to me.
>>517278000
>>517277768>If we have minds, then the universe must be a MindWhat in the christcuck logic is this?
>>517272531
>>517277853The stupidity is on your end, actually. You're injecting meaning into the word "creator" that doesn't exist naturally, because you have some kind of weird personal prejudice. It's not that God doesn't need a creator and the universe does, it's that there simply must be a first cause, and whatever that first cause is must have inherent properties of creation in order to create. So whether you call it "the Real" or "God" doesn't matter at all. The point is that there is a source of ordered existence.
>>517277985May as well Mention St. Thomas Acquinas since causality and its rational refutation of polytheism such as the norse, green and hindu pantheons. There is one God, he is outside of time as we know it and he commenced the singularity. He also created love and knows it.
this man is not straight im sorry
>>517277985>aristotle is wrong because he's old>newton is right because he's less oldYou're also ignoring the fact that Aristotle and Newton agree with each other. And modern physics agree with both of them as well. Everything humanity has ever learned confirms the metaphysical truths that Plato laid out, it doesn't reject them. You need to actually educate yourself.
>>517278178
They raped him didnt they?
>>517272531Worst and gayest Thor movie ever. The actor should kill himself for being such an absolute faggot. Ever since Tragic Kike and Game of Incestuous Battlepenises came out, every major movie has been gratuitous male nudity and other faggotry. I don't even watch tv anymore because it's gotten so absolutely disgusting. People need to keep their fucking fetishes out of my entertainment.
>>517278186Again Fr. George LeMairteEducate yourself. You are arguing purely becaus eyoua re seeking answers. Go look at them. Time commenced in the singularity. There is no infintre regression or recursion for our universe because causality requires time and spacetime only began when God pressed a button and ran the code that created you.
>>517274222It essentially is. Porn has infested Hollywood because of kikes.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHHA CHRIS WHAT THE FUCK what the fuck did they do to you bro
>>517278178Gay as fuck
oh man. Poor guy. I shouldn’t even laugh
>>517278133Thomas Aquinas, the same one who said that fetus becomes human and is granted soul after 40 days if it is a male fetus and after 80 days if it is woman's soul?So what is your view on abortion? Should it be acceptable up to 80 days for women in accordance with St. Thomas Aquinas?Not to mention he was a faggot who said "hugging a woman is like hugging a sack of shit".PS. I've read his works, it is nothing worth reading in 21st century. No wonder you are all so stupid if you refuse to educate yourselves past middleage fairytales.>>517278186Newton is right because his physics work and can be empirically tested. Aristotele was full of bullshit because he did not understand how reality works and was making asumptions based on his lacking knowledge. Same as you - retard who does not understand higher maths and physics try to talk about physics by making retarded claims that everyone agrees with himself. No they do not agree with you retard. And Newton was Unitarian, he didn't agree with Trinity.
>>517276572>manchildrenEven talking like a woman won't make you one. YWNBAW
I stopped watching capeshit about a decade ago, didn't they like do the modern pop culture reboot thing with Thor and make him into a sad loser and be replaced by a woman who is magically ten times better than him at his job?
>>517278462It’s all extremely gay I wasn’t joking
>>517278481Aight bro. Chris Hemsworth is gay though
>>517276712Silver Surfer is a fucking chad. So is Wolverine. In fact most of those characters are cannonically heterosexual and slay more pussy than you ever will.What IS gay is the faggotry Hollywood keeps pushing into capeshit movies.
>>517276572The best scenes' in all the franchises was when Thor fought his way in to reclaim his hammer without being a demigod.
>>517278473>empirically testedOh, so you fundamentally don't understand how reality works or what logic is. Math has harder proofs than anything that can be "empirically tested", because math is an expression of logic. Metaphysics are also an expression of logic. And Aristotle understood math and physics perfectly, he was right back then and he's right now. I think you're just legitimately retarded and don't understand the first thing about the subjects you're pretending to be knowledgeable about.
>>517278624Lol. It shows that you are uneducated in terms of physics and mathematics. I have PhD in theoretical physics. You are just retard who ramble about bible being right by using semantics.
>>517277271I want to live in Bundaberg. I knew a girl there that I fell in love with. Sadly, she and I parted ways, but I feel I could rekindle our romance. She really loved me. I broke her heart. I have always regretted it.
>>517272531Imagine same scenes about desert mythology!
You have no idea of the majesty of heaven.Above these there is one great prince, revered, high, lordly, fearful, ancient and strong. 'OPHPHANNIEL H is his name. He has sixteen faces, four faces on each side, also hundred wings on each side. And he has 8466 eyes, corresponding to the days of the year. 2190 on each side.And those two eyes of his face, in each one of them lightnings are flashing, and from each one of them firebrands are burning ; and no creature is able to behold them : for anyone who looks at them is burnt instantly.His height is the distance of 2500 years' journey. No eye can behold and no mouth can tell the mighty power of his strength save the King of kings, the Holy One, blessed be He, alone.Why is he called 'OPHPHANNIEL ?Because he is appointed over the 'Ophannim and the 'Ophannim are given in his charge. He stands every day and attends and beautifies them. And he exalts and orders their apartment and polishes their standing-place and makes bright their dwellings, makes their corners even and cleanses their seats. And he waits upon them early and late, by day and by night, to increase their beauty, to make great their dignity and to make them "diligent in praise of their Creator.And all the 'Ophannim are full of eyes, and they are all full of brightness; seventy two sapphire stones are fixed on their garments on their right side and seventy two sapphire stones are fixed on their garments on their left side. And four carbuncle stones are fixed on the crown of every single one, the splendour of which proceeds in the four directions of 'Araboth even as the splendour of the globe of the sun proceeds in all the directions of the universe. And why is it called Carbuncle ? Because its splendour is like the appearance of a lightning Baraq. And tents of splendour, tents of brilliance, tents of brightness as of sapphire and carbuncle inclose them because of the shining appearance of their eyes.
>>517278607I can respect that. Surely the wrath of the titans demigod Perseus infiltrating the underworld and facing Hades to rescue Zeus is superior to Hemsworth fighting his way to a hammer though?Sam Worthington is clearly a superior actor
>>517278763I never mentioned the bible. I'm not a Christian. I'm just an expert on this subject, and I can smell your bullshit from a mile away. You've never read any of these authors in your life and you have absolutely zero understanding of physics. You're just larping.
>>517278587I'll give you that. He's a huge faggot.You really roll with the punches. I respect that.
>>517278624>And Aristotle understood math and physics perfectly, he was right back then and he's right now. Aristotele thought heavier objects fall faster than lighter one. We know it isn't truth.He thought you have to have first mover for movement. Newton proved with 3rd law we do not.He didn't understand atoms (that was Democrites) and was making assumptions everything is made out of "elements". We know it isn't true.He also ignored empirical experimentation and tried to make reason by using semantics. Just like retards like you do.
>>517278763>PhD in theoretical physicsFake and Gay, no PhD holder would use 4chan unless he's actually retarded
>>517274697Actually there is an original dimension that was approaching heat death. So they crammed 100 trillion stars into a massive black hole to tear into another reality to get more energy. Unfornately, the new energy completely altered their physics and killed most life in the universe. The surviving life was stored by the ai in charge, and that ai is forcing clones of each species to fight each other on a partially shielded world called 'cradle' where some of the new physics can creep in, the goal being to forcibly evolve new intelligent life that is adapted to the new laws of physics that can recolonize the universe.The big bang that created our universe came from the supermassive black hole they created shredding dimensions and allowing energy to flow between them. Before that we were a void dimension.
>>517278974Not to mention the retard doesn't know that theoretical physics is primarily metaphysics, which is exactly the thing he's arguing against. He's trying to champion for "empirical testing" while saying he's a THEORETICAL physicist. Absolute peak fucking retard.
>>517278890Right now it is me who actually shown proof of me understanding physics and knowing what all these people you mentioned were talking about. And the only thing you do is using ad personam arguments instead of proving that aristotele was right and that newton agreed with him. Which they did not. You think that if you write up big names next to retarded argument it means you are right.
>>517277776Emperor of Mankind....
>>517279081No, you haven't. You got spanked, retard.
>>517276580The universe doesn't need a creator, it was always there.
>>517278895
>>517278987Holy schizo, yet somehow still more logical than most atheists.
>>517279061>theoretical physics is primarily metaphysicsyou cannot get more retarded than that.No we do not test for souls nor for magic nor for metaphysical beings while doing research.Do you even understand what metaphysical means? It literally means NONphysical. Something that physicist cannot check touch look at research. And theoretical physics is quite proven mathematically and lately even empirically with things like LHC.
>>517279142another ad personam.
>>517279194It's the plot to 'release that witch'.
>>517272531This was acktually one of the only good scenes in that movie the rest was shit.
>>517279147The universe, as a non-intelligent entity, must have a creator.
>>517279147Then the universe has to have all of the properties that are contained within the universe(ex nihilo nihil fit), meaning the universe is an eternal mind. Either way, there is a Deity.
>>517272531> I watched a movie and I identify as pagan nowimagine what you will identify as if you read a certain book (which happened to people for 2000 years before movies existed)
>>517278895you have to roll with it these days anon it’s the only way to be
>>517278875Watch Hemsworth in the two Extraction movies, he's very good in action scenes. The Marvel franchise cucked his character severely, he even says he regrets that.
>>517279203Math isn't empirical, retard. Go back to school. You lost this argument so hard and embarrassed yourself.
>>517279390Look I have no doubt he’s a good guy when he wants to be I just think he’s a little bit of a sell out. The guy abandoned his hometown in an endless pursuit of fame and greed and was okay with humiliation in order to get it. I haven’t seen extraction. He was good in Neighbours in 2002. Once Hollywood got to him it was game over
>>517279306>The universe, as a non-intelligent entity, must have a creator.Why?
>>517273950>you believe you were created>i, an intellectual, know that all life came from a pool on earth filled with all the building blocks-->THEY WERE ALL THERE. ALL OF THEM>of life. Dna randomly formed out of the chemicals-->WHICH WERE ALL THERE IN PERFECT RATIO, RANDOMLY BECAUSE ENTROPY AND OSMOSIS SCIENCE>simultaneously, all of the organelles to read and make more DNA formed at the same time around these delicate DNA molecules >WITH SCIENTIFIC RANDOMNESS. BILLIAN YEARS ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN, CHUDS>and poof! The first single cell organisms just coalesced into existance. Turned into a fish that became a monkey, and here you are today!>dont attack me pls, you meaniesWhy cant idiots provide a plausible theory that doesnt involve god if they hate god so much?
>>517279362Based. You're alright, fren.
>>517279390I think he should come back to Heathmont and stop being a faggot thats all.They should’ve cast him for tomorrow when the war began and turned him into an Australian icon, not an American sellout
>>517273950> 1) Personal attack on you ("you are a cult member")> 2) impotent proxy threat ("you should feel very uncomfortable")Fucking pathetic.
>>517277768>god is the universeOccams razor. The universe is the universe. Youre just coping trying your best to insert your god myth wherever you can hoping smart people wont call you out on your bullshit.
>>517279621 u2 anon
>>517274422>god is eternalThe universe is eternal. Dont need god anymore.
I mean hes worth 120 million now so I kind of get why he did it. Most people would given the chance.But fuck man that dance is gay
>>517279568Retard, the universe is immensely vast and given enough time it was bound to happen. But do continue with "muh god" because some low IQ sheep herders hallucinates about it 3000 years back
>>517272531>mog your "aryan" godsNothing personal kiddo.
>>517279306If it is possible for something to have always existed, then nothing needs to have created it, because it existed already. There is no need for a middle man between the omnipresence of existence and the universe as we see it today.
>>517273950This is American education at its finest.You can't understand that life needs INFORMATION, it's not just about physics and biology. Information NEEDS to be created by someone. DNA is pure information coded in a way that evolution will never be able to explain because you can't get information from nothing. You can't run hardware without software, and software is developed by an intelligent mind.
>>517279932Only because of your flag there are christ-worshippers relevant till now. Imbecilic bro of the rabble.
>>517279540Yeah he did sort of skip the whole Aussie film scene until he was offered crazy money. I have first hand knowledge of his family and how they are irl, they're very good people. Just that opportunity knocked hard.
>>517279932> God can't appear out of nothing> but the Universe canuh-huh, got it.
>>517280359>Hurrr muh non sequiturWho said universe appeared out of nowhere?
>>517279765Question...What's the truth on Abos?Based people or no?
>>517280499where did it appear from?
>>517280605It's always been here
>>517275242>So why can't you apply this to the universe then? If God doesn't need a creator, why does anything else?Because the universe had a beginning and will have an ending. Science says so.If you can accept that the universe is eternal (despite all evidence to the contrary), then why can't you accept that God is eternal?
>>517280699so, you don't believe in Big Bang? what do you call your cult?
>>517280605I think reality itself is a bit too incomprehensible for humans to ever truly know the answer to that question. Perhaps it just always was and will always be. Perhaps it was spawned by a previous universe that was itself spawned by a previous universe, etc. ad infinitum, etc.. Perhaps is was spawned by an imperfection in the void that caused a paradoxal existence that spread like a plague. The possibilities are as endless as your imagination.
>>517272531>Tattoos0/10, would not bang
>>517280771The universe could be eternal in the sense that there has always been a universe and it gets reborn infinitely.
>>517280878What's universe always existing got to do with Big Bang? Big Bang is a model that's just trying to explain how the current universe came into existence, not what was there before it
>>517279932>Retard, the universe is immensely vast and given enough time it was bound to happen.The math says otherwise. The only counterargument is the multiverse hypothesis. However, this has recently turned out to be false. Scientists who supported string theory for decades aren't willing to admit it, because they would lose their jobs.
>>517281130>if I overstretch my imaginery interpretation of science then I might be telling the truthCome on anon...
>>517275620There is no evidence for an all-powerful being. Furthermore, why would a powerful universe need a creator?
>>517281146>falseTruthfully, there is no proof of anything. Just theories that can't really be verified or debunked by anyone. For all we know the universe was sneezed out into existence.
>>517281141what was there before it?
>>517281242That's like asking why does a garden need a gardener.
>>517281238A lot of science is just theory.It gets proven, disproven, argued, reproven, and disproven again. It's an endless debate.
>>517272531I never knew why christcuck used the DuRr uR goDs R MarVeL HeRoEs argument. if I had to choose between a marvel movie or a soap opera I am going with the former because i'm not a woman nor a faggot. the entire bible reads like a boring soap opera where 90% of the plot is a rabbi going around talking in parables like some pseudo intelligent fuckwit only for him to die like a bitch at the end. yawn.
>>517281271>Truthfully, there is no proof of anythingYeah, it depends how you define proof.
>>517281238>If I overstretch my imaginary bearded jew wizard then i might be telling the truthCome on Christcuck. At least the other anons interpretation saves a step and is closer to Occams razor than you.
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