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Atheism was always the truth. Social darwinism is better than worshipping a pedo prophet.
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>>517301178
No, atheism is imaginary.

That source you mention was written over 200 years after the Prophet's death. In other words, it's fake and even the Muslims reject it.
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>>517301178
>evidence-based theories or desert retard scribbles

Anyone who isn't an atheist or agnostic in 2025 is legit retard.
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>>517302149
So what, the New Testament was written decades after Jesus died. It's all made up.
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I once saw a video of a buddhist monk levitating when I grew older I realized it was probably smoke and mirrors. But there are guys in tibet who make steam from a wet, cold sheet wrapped around them
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>>517302222
WITNESSED
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>>517302222
The Quran is the central book and was written down by Muhammed before he died. The hadith collection was written 200-300 years after his death.

If you want to criticise Islam then you have to attack the Quran.
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>>517301178
Insaneity is all the rage these days, be an atheist who quests for god.
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>>517302551
>Muslims don't accept the hadiths
What planet are you on?
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>>517301178
I dunno about "the truth". Certainly theists haven't been able to back up their claims in a satisfactory way. Until they do, well, it only makes sense to doubt.
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>>517301178
>picrel
BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>517301178
Atheism is the tip of the branch of your family tree.
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>>517302551
>Quran was written down by Muhammad
No?
The Quran was all oral until like 100 years after Muhammad
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>>517302753
I didnt say that. Many Muslims reject various hadiths (which are ranked from most reliable to least reliable).

But the truth is that the entire hadith collection is blasphemy. They have divided us for centuries.
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>>517302973
yes... according to the unreliable sources written 200 years later.
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>>517301178

This passage is posted all the time and not explained. Does he beat his whore wife to death after? Does he chuck the children from the cliffs like Yakub would have wanted?
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>>517303063
If only they knew the truth like you do.
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>>517302551
>Quran was written by muhammad

Another sand nigger that doesn't know his own religion
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>>517303063
Oh, so you’re a shitskin. Kill yourself immediately. All believing muslims worldwide should be systematically exterminated like vermin. Europe should take inspiration from Israel, herd you rats into concentration camps and then starve you to death. You and all your inbred shitskin families.
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>>517303263
Quran was written by ayeshas father in law. God kept speaking to mohammad for 23 years.
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>>517301178
oxymoron, the core foundation of atheism is the denial of "truth".
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>>517303480
Always the Islamophobes who need to say what the Quran "actually" says
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>>517303583
God didn’t speak to the false prophet Mohammed.
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>>517303583
>my source written centuries later tells me so, therefore it's true
The hadith collection badly contradicts itself. Even worse, it repeatedly contradicts the Quran.
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>>517303658
>Islamophobes

Jewish terminology
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>>517303883
Again, your source is a hadith. And you're arguing no differently than the Nazis who quoted the Talmud to justify genocide against Jews.
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>>517303063
Quaranists are not muslims
>>517303480
It was written but in parts across different people, it was collected a few years after the prophet passed away by Abu Bakr, keep in mind this was while there were hundreds if not more people that had the quran fully memorized. Don't forget that the quran is much smaller and easier to remember than your schizophrenic jewish fantasy book.
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>>517302149
>No, atheism is imaginary.
My lack of belief is imaginary?
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>>517303615
>brazilian
>doesn't accept atheism as the truth

Don't worry; the less you think, the more religious you become. You didn't evolve after all.
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>>517304424
>Quaranists are not muslims
Yes we are, anon.

>>517304454
Atheism is a belief that there is no God.
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>>517304717
>Atheism is a belief that there is no God
That's still a lack of belief lol
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>>517304296
Hadiths are accepted by the vast majority of mudslimes, quoting them is perfectly fine, quranists are considered heretics by both major sects, sunnis and shia, your trick don't work here shitskin
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>>517304872
It's a lack of belief in God, but it's not a lack of belief lol
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>>517304953
>It's a lack of belief in God
Correct. So how is that "imaginary"?
>but it's not a lack of belief
In God or gods it is. But it doesn't mean I don't have beliefs
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>>517304947
>Hadiths are accepted by the vast majority of Muslims
Exactly, and that's the tragedy. But at least Quran-only Muslims are spreading, especially among the youth
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>>517304947
Keep moralfagging nigger
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>>517301178
No. It is just for closeted homosexuals who are not brave enough to come out of the closet and just be who they really are. They won't come out since they don't believe in themselves.
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>>517305091
Without hadits islam ha no substance, it will collapse
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>>517305090
So you admit atheism is a belief?
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>>517305201
>(You)

Fuck off shitskin
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>>517305462
Again, you sound like the 1930s Nazi "intellectuals" who argued Jews cannot reject the Talmud
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>>517304953
>It's a lack of belief in God
>>517305476
You already answered this
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>>517305633
can you rejecccccc the Dalmudse?
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>>517305643
Ah, the classic "my favorite non-academic dictionary says so" therefore it must be correct.

I have two questions for you anon. First, do you lack belief in God/gods - yes or no?
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>>517305696
You can, but Jews cannot reject the Torah (Old Testament).
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>>517305633
You can but that would make you an heretic among jews just like you are an heretic among muslims
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>>517305546
Lol
>>517305696
Holy shit kys faggot nigger faggot nigger faggot nigger nigger nigger faggot
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>>517305872
Hey dummy, the A in Atheism means without. Which means without theism. It's lacking the belief

I don’t know why this is so hard for you
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>>517305988
why can you, a Muzlime reject the talmud? isn't it allahword?
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>>517305091
>Exactly, and that's the tragedy. But at least Quran-only Muslims are spreading, especially among the youth

kek, goodluck. the quran doesn't tell you to pray 5x a day, the hadith does.
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They knew about recessive gene that was only activates after a few generations back then?
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>>517305872
>Ah, the classic "my favorite non-academic dictionary says so"
the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) is considered an authoritative academic dictionary

You really are dumb dude
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>>517306015
None of the Muslims I discussed it with called me a heretic. But there were times when they got angry. However, all of them were accepting of me after they made sure I didn't reject a single ayat.
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>>517306200
yis, barraddarr, wallahi this is a mircile of isssssleeeeeeeeeeeme


how did he knowed??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>517306219
>However, all of them were accepting of me
>after they made sure
>I didn't reject a single ayat.

but you did though
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>>517306110
I mean that if you were a Jew, then you can reject the Talmud. But not the Torah. Bad wording, sorry
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>>517306345
why can you

a Muzlime

reject

the talmud

isn't the talmud

the word of allah?
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>>517303063
You're a kafir. You can't marry among us, your slaughtered meat is haram to us, you can't be buried in a Muslim cemetery and funny how zero Quranists can even recite the Quran forget about being a Hafiz
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>>517306038
Then answer my two simple questions. Let's see how hard it is for you. Do you lack belief God exists - yes or no?
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>>517306431
get that kaffere

he is dog wallah
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>>517301178
Wrong Greek Myth provides a path forward. Atheists also believe cuckholding is based.
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>>517306486
You want to start again?
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>>517306317
which one?
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>>517302149
I believe there is no creator. No intelligent design.
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>>517306219
Yeah, you're discussing with the average muhammad that has a kebab shop in Vienna, he probably doesn't even understand the world heretic

>Yes, Quranists are often considered heretics by traditional Islamic scholars because they reject the authoritative role of hadiths and believe that the Quran alone is sufficient for guidance. This belief leads to significant theological and legal differences with mainstream Sunni and Shia Islam.

This coming from sunni and shia scholars
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>>517306572
ummmmmmm


yes??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>517306469
I've already answered your question
See
>>517304454
>My lack of belief is imaginary?
Which you never could explain why that is
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>>517306581
>which one?
you don't know?

but i thought the barraddars made sure

they hadn't?
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>>517301178
Islam is full of stories like that, women getting coverings is because someone saw Muhammad's wife taking a shit and complained
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>>517302753
>>517303063
they made the hadiths essential to the point if you criticise it. you are a murtad.

i follow the ahlul bayt only
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>>517306766
this is a mircile, askschually, OF isssssleeeeeeeeme

that when the prophet refuses to Govere his whamens, or any Muzlime, until after his friend spies on his crapping wives at night and THEN, by allah, the versese revealeded

so betiful

how did he knowed??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>517306673
Now I want to see you answer it again. Yes or no?
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>>517306887
what's a shia doing in the canadeeeeeeeeniyyahe of the DOG kuffar though?

is this a mircile of ali?
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>>517306997
I've already answered.
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>>517306997
you

this
>>517306686

and this too
>>517306388

now

go
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>>517302149
>That source you mention was written over 200 years after the Prophet's death.
Like the whole quran. Lol
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>>517302171
>"evidence-based theories"
like err...?
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>>517306686
Quran 45:6 says otherwise. And the ayat you provided says nothing about the hadith collection.

>>517307051
You didnt answer again. Come on anon, your insecurity is showing.
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>>517307480
listen, retard

what does it mean when allah tells you

unless you make mohammeds and how he lived your LIFE you can't even be a Muzlime

the q'ringe is from allah right?

so what is from mohammeds?

>some bullshit verse that has nothing to do with the fact that he literally can not be a q'ringe only Muzlime

you are one dumb Muzlime aren't you

and you aren't even a Muzlime
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>>517307480
My friend. I've answered the question and you agreed I've answered it but keep insisting I answer it again?Brother, are you retarded?
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Belief is simply what you think is true or not, atheists lack belief in a god, but it could be argued to be a belief since the idea of god or gods as a concept exist, even when there's no reason to believe in them but not believing in that nonsense its still a belief that its not worth believing in (correct)
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>>517306486
>"derpity derp wallah"
living proof that apostasy doesn't cure the bougnoule gene
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>>517307673
>Brother, are you retarded?
idk, let's check the manual
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>>517307777
whoa
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>>517307673
Alright, then answer the 2nd question: do you also lack belief that God doesn't exist - yes or no?
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>>517308188
>do you also lack belief that God doesn't exist - yes or no?
This doesn't make sense bud.
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>>517307809
Kek
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>>517308188
a monkey in austria

do you want me to move past how you can't be a q'ringe only Muzlime and just inundate you with the retarded shit from the q'ringe?

are you going to stop being a q'ringe only Muzlime then?

i got nothing going on retard i will bump this thread until it hits 400 posts
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>>517307809
That's one translation. There are others which give it a whole different meaning.

>>517307868
Cousin marriage is permitted, but not advocated in the Quran.
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>>517308188
>>517308319
I see, you're asking the same question but obfuscated in a weird attempt to get a gotcha
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>>517308438
>That's one translation. There are others which give it a whole different meaning.
m'yeah? give me the best one, please, zoobay'r

thanks
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>>517308319
Oh, it does.

Yes or no?
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>>517308584
>Oh, it does.
Explain the difference between the 2 questions then.
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>>517308584
look, can you make believe i picked whichever you need and get to the retarded muzlime gotcha you think is going to shatter his world-e view?

YES

NO

literally pick the one you need and CONTINUE
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>>517308518
Well, I can't say what the best translation is because I don't speak Classical Arabic. But there are scholars which argue otherwise.
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>>517308808
>But there are scholars which argue otherwise.
ah ha, and these scholars, may allah etc them and etc their etc,

would they call you the doggest apostate?
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>>517308188
>>517308438
>>517308584
>>517308808
You do not belong in Europe. We will dive you from our home, you filthy invader.
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>>517301178
For certain types
>>517303658
>Islamophobes
Just like kikes saying antisemitic
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>>517308671
A man is placed on trial for murder. Is he guilty or innocent?

>Man A says I believe he's guilty.
>Man B says I believe he's innocent.

But then, there are people like you who try to pretend being smarter than others and say "I don't believe he's guilty."

>Well okay, so you're saying he's innocent and never committed the crime? Why are you so sure?
I never said that lol, I'm just saying I'm not convinced he murdered anyone
>Well, are you saying he's not guilty
I'm just saying that. I'm just not convinced he's guilty
>Do you think he's innocent?
I'm not convinced he's guilty. Why is it so hard for you to understand that
>Are you also not convinced he's innocent? Yes or no?


Again anon, answer my second question - yes or no?
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>>517308876
Nope
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>>517309621
https://youtu.be/cMCiQOOJfhw?si=dbhMm04zlDw8fbnQ&t=196

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>517309577
Again,
>>517308671
>Explain the difference between the 2 questions
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>>517309577
Like most other muslims, you're retarded.
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>>517309919
>most other muslims
did you mean literally every single Muzlime? because you typed most other muslims, as if there are Muzlimese who aren't retarded?

i'm sure it's just a silly misunderstanding :)
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>>517309796
It shows the difference between an atheist and an agnostic. A theist believes in God. An atheist believes there is no God. But an agnostic doesn't believe in God and also doesn't believe there is no God (is undecided and has nothing further to say).

Saying "I lack belief in God" is the ultimate copout and deflection.
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>>517310724
yeah

here's your retarded allah telling you he'll forgive you for prostituting your women because you'll get the money subwayhamsgalore

thoughts??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>517310724
>Saying "I lack belief in God" is the ultimate copout and deflection.
Not really. It's saying that when sufficient evidence convinces ces me enough then I'll change my mind..

Also, gnostic and agnostic are branches in both atheism and theism
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>>517311072
in the last book of the bible God says
>israel will be left alone, surrounded by a retarded people that they might destroy it
this is why He returns, to deliver them

you reckon this is something that might pique the interest of an agnostic?
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>>517309722
>>517310873
This is also what happened in 1930s Germany when anti-Semites riled up against Jews. You could have a hundred rabbis who openly promoted tolerance and equality with non-Jews... but the Nazi wouldn't have it. If there were a single rabbi who preached hate, the fascists placed him on the front news and shouted: "See all Jews are just like this! They said so themselves! They all clearly wish to kill us! It says so in the Talmud!" Then you had Jews who ciritcised otehr Jews, but Nazis tried to twitst it and make it seem all Jews hate it each other.
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>>517311072
They're not. Gnostic has to do with hidden knowledge that comes from the divine. Not some brand new definition made up on reddit
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>>517311482
what?
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>>517311526
>They're not
I disagree

>Gnostic has to do with hidden knowledge that comes from the divine
That's gnosticism, completely different
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>>517302149
Leave, Ahmud.
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>>517302286
Abilities can be gained through gods (pagan priests), obsession (voodoo), or cheat codes (tantra)
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>>517311072
This is one of the most idiotic things I have ever read. Congratulations, anon.

But if people change their definitions then doublespeak will finally make sense in their heads. So I'll play your game.

Notice how "gnostic atheist knows there is no God" but "agnostic atheist lacks belief in God, but doesn't claim to know with 100% certainty"? Again, this is manipulatively misleading - atheism is a lack of belief in God but it's NOT A LACK OF BELIEF, because they do believe God doesn't exist. What else do you call a person who believes there is no God? Sneaky play, but still idiotic.

>>517311072
>Also, gnostic and agnostic are branches in both atheism and theism
No anon, agnosticism rejects both theism and atheism equally.

Agnostic atheism is a contradiction.
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>>517302171
>Anyone who isn't an atheist or agnostic in 2025 is legit retard.
Why is "in 2025" inserted in this otherwise accurate statement??
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>>517301178
Veneration of your ancestors
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>>517311649
Islamophobia today is no different than anti-Semitism.
Simply replace all your criticism against Islam with Judaism, and you'll get 1930s Germany and Austria.
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>>517311809
I'm as Austrian as you, jackass.
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>>517302222
WITNESSED AND FACTS
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>>517306603
>I believe there is no creator. No intelligent design.

So how do you know this is true, anon? Because if it's false, then that means your claim is imaginary.

This is why disbelievers say "I lack belief in God" instead of "I believe there is no God". Because the former statement keeps the claim (and the burden of evidence) only onto the theists.
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>>517314396
You're gay.
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>>517302222
>people couldn't possibly remember things in living memory from when they happened

What lol?
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>>517314508
What a strong irrefutable counterargument. Alright, I'll check myself out.
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>>517312418
>This is one of the most idiotic things I have ever read
Not my problem you're 1 dimensional

>But if people change their definitions then doublespeak will finally make sense in their heads
Neither of those things have happened.

>>517312418
>Again, this is manipulatively misleading
Incorrect. The same.applies to the thirst as well. Some claim to know God is real while others don't but still believe.

It comes down to claiming with certainty (gnostic) while not claiming to know but still believe or lack the belief (agnostic)


This isn't hard my friend
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>>517312418
>>Also, gnostic and agnostic are branches in both atheism and theism
>No anon
They are
>agnosticism
Is completely different.

You are dumb
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>>517314935
It's sad how people like you cannot think on their own. Oh well...
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>>517307029
finding aisha's LA lost Onlyfans account, akhi
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>>517314754
You make no arguments, you just twist words and bait.
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>>517315281
I came to this on my own friend..

Your concession is accepted since you've got nothing left to argue
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>>517315413
Exactly. Then he gets pissy when people call it out and don't play along
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>>517302973
>>517303480
>>517303555
>>517307426
>>517309358
You cannot hope to defeat the satanists at the helm of the world while reciting their propaganda

>>517304424
>>517306431
All who recite the shahada are Muslim. All who bear witness to God and God alone are ultimately saved from hell. Do not gatekeep judgement, you are not God.
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>>517302171
This. Actually atheists are a bit retarded. Agnosticism is the way though. We just don't know anything
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>>517301708
>>517301178
>>517302171
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>>517301178
meanwhile in reality
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>>517301178
Blacks are poking arab girls hard in france
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>meanwhile in reality
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>>517318246
No, they're NOT camels - they look like dolls, but are probably human triplets.
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>>517318246
>نايك كس ام المصرى فى قبرها
in france blacks are blacking arab girls (beurette)
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>نايك كس ام المصرى فى قبرها
blacks nigging moroccan arab girls
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>>517301178
>But allah, I we have no blacks in our ancestry
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>>517301178
Maybe Muhammad (Police Be Upon Him) didn't want to break his heart telling him a nigger fucked her wife.
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>>517320368
>*llah why have you cursed me with a BBC loving wife?
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