Previous: >>517306988Day 1,311 – Daily assessment: https://understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>Hungarian drones violated Ukrainian airspace - Zelenskyy said. "Preliminary, they could have been conducting reconnaissance of industrial potential in Ukrainian border areas.">Afipsky refinery droned again.>1x Su-34 shot down, 2x An-26 cargo planes droned. Ziggers roping.>Russia forecasts reduction of natural gas export in 2025 by over 10%>Budget deficit of Russia for 2025 will increase by another 1.94 trillion rubles. And amount to 5.74 trillion, or 2.6% of GDP.>The number of available vacancies for people with disabilities in Russia has risen by 300 000 in 2025>Trump called Russia a “paper tiger” with a collapsing economy and allowed the military victory of Ukraine>Trump: NATO countries should shoot down russian planes if they enter their airspace>Trump: I think Orbán will stop buying russian oil if I speak to him. I will speak to him.>Trump: Everyone thought russia would win that war in three days. It was supposed to be a quick little skirmish. It did not turn out that way. It is making russia look bad>2 Be-12s (submarine detection planes) and another helicopter destroyed in Crimea>Polish commie zigger Jerzy Tyts killed in battle against Ukrainian forces>drone attacks on Crimea destroys x3 helicopters and one radar>Weekly exports of oil from russia collapsed by 22.7%>Ukraine liberates Mayak>Ukraine liberates Pankivka>putin admits there is a gas shortage▶Telegramhttps://rentry.org/telosint2023https://t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelhttps://t.me/DeepStateENhttps://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)https://ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapshttps://deepstatemap.live/enhttps://liveuamap.com/en▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOUR 1: files.catbox.moe/34fuhc.txtTOUR 2: files.catbox.moe/uj2wut.txtTOUR 3: files.catbox.moe/hmyd98.txtTOUR 4: files.catbox.moe/cdenxe.txt
>>517323061When will the pigkraine stop losing?
Holy fuck this general is dead
>WINNIG
to the last oil refinery
>>517323061Looks like we're paying the Caucasus a visit tonight boys
>>517323139DEAD GENERAL ALERT
>>517323208https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Forget-OPEC-Warnings-The-Real-Oil-Shock-Is-Happening-Inside-Russia.html
Okay now Russia is really at war with NATO. Now it's different
Meanwhile in Russia: state TV commentators took turns shredding Trump in response to his recent statements.https://x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1971403994967974139https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BreoCR0ANao&list=PLLWQyEN3YRo41QwWb7e8J5YjBX80WmGtG
TZD
>>517323061>Oracle copelord projections14:1's old and busted, 40:1 the current ratio these days
>>517323316war has changed
>>517323316different how?
>>517323356what part pissed them off more? the part about russia being a "paper tiger" or the part about ukraine potentially annexing parts of russia?
>>517323356Why won't @whca working for @ABC @NBCNews @CBSEveningNews @NewsHour @MorningEdition @WSJ @washingtonpost @nytimes ask Trump for his response to the ways Russian media makes fun of him & laughs at him? Trump is a punch line in Russian media but our msm never asks Trump to respond?https://x.com/joke2power/status/1971406845404479927
>>517323272Russians will forever remember him for his role in their war against zog.
>>517323208why not antitank mines under russian rails?
>>517323464no one cares what's in Russian media
>>517323425soon the ratio will be negative in favor of russia
>>517323480stop blaming jews for everything
>>517323356Russian Akhat commander:“No one should trust Trump’s war assessment because he contradicts himself. Our Supreme Leader doesn’t.”Their Supreme Leader:https://x.com/Thehistoriansqu/status/1971556057819578753>>517323461 alot pisses off Russhits, but Trump reminds them of Monke, and that sends them for a loop, because monke say's a lot, but never delivers
>>517323730Why, are you offended?
>>517323818>but Trump reminds them of Monke, and that sends them for a loophumm never thought that's why they seeth at him so much but it does make sense
>>517323356Ah, Trump getting that respect he's always craved. Oh, wait, no! Trump getting trashed by his BFF. Sad!https://x.com/IvonneRovira/status/1971560079754502590
>>517323932I'm offended at your attempts to discredit wise men such as vladimir vladimirovich putin
>>517323356who's the kadyrovite churka?do they show him off on tv all the time?i thought it was just the head of some fringe criminal group like rusich
>>517323061Ukraine, Russia. same shit.Why do you people care so much?
>RF Navy Black Sea Fleet Kilo-class diesel-electric submarine Novorossiysk conducted a westbound transit of the Strait of Gibraltar todayhttps://x.com/key2med/status/1971602348159152549
>>517324168Why do you?
>>517324168>stop cariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!!!!!!!!!!!
>>517324221on its way to crash into merican east coast shores and cause an environmental disaster
>>517323061>peremogaarrows as OP
>>517323591they have done some, right?I think rail can generally be repaired pretty quickly.
>>517323272dead politicians as well it seems, someone is cleaning house
Ukrbros, what if this war lasts for 30 years? What's your plan to1) stay alive2) get out of this
>>517324168funny pic, but russia still dies
Tigran Keosayan — the husband of Russia Today editor-in-chief and Putin’s top propagandist Margarita Simonyan — has died overnight on Sept.26 after being in a coma for more than nine monthshttps://kyivpost.com/post/60942https://x.com/KyivPost/status/1971542427648528662
>>517324463soon she ACKs out due to breastcancer as well
>Gerasimov makes the call>The Z-800 is activated from cryosleep
>>517324162One of their main guys.
>>517324424Ukrainians will have to rise up and overthrow their jewish puppet regime if they ever want this shit to end. It shouldn't be too hard since, according to /uhg/, they already overthrew their government all by themselves in 2014.
>>517324424Do Russhits attack with bicycles?
>>517323061>file.pngDo these arrows show the paths of refugees fleeing from the crooked Zelensky dictatorship?
>>517322259It's funny reading this. We've had "instructors" (unlike those who were invited from actual combat-worthy units) to approve of those who can't match the normatives. We've had people who literally cannot perform the duties they were assigned to with the hand-waving of "oh, something will work out somehow" and then eventually "something" (his discharge) "working out somehow", wasting tons of government (i.e. partner actually) money in process. We've had a conscript kill himself before seeing any real combat too. Most of them were "pilfered" by other units anyway so he could have just waited but I guess he was too disgusted by "the system". It's such a FUCKING DISGRACE. A man has killed himself and all an officer had to say that it's just "lots of paperwork"? We wasted that man. He could have worked in some other role but our dumb, intransigent system has wasted him. His next of kin were stricken too instead of working for the cause of ridding us from the enemy. Such a waste.
>>517324600at least his entire bloodline have always been traitors, way worse when a chechen churkoid that defied russoid aggressions in the past eventually gets bought off
>>517323061TZDKill all Russians Find Russnigger oligarch kids in the EU and slit their throats
Is living a life of crime basedt. Albert Capone
>>517324424why are you discrediting the russian armed forces?
day 1325 of ukraine winning
>>517324670why use the VPN bro?
>>517324947>Russnigger oligarch kidsThey prolly have no special security so it would be easy. Use a Knapp sport saw to take apart the carcass and dispose in multi-layered trash bags with other crap to hide scent. Waste disposal don't look into the bags
>>517325154>people respect the american flag moreone of those fvpn aggots unironically said that, even ziggers know russia is a laughing stock
Putin’s Propagandists Dismiss US Statements“When they point out, ‘President Trump is very disappointed, displeased and upset by Putin,’ perhaps Trump should be pondering whether Putin is disappointed and upset with him.”My latest for CEPA:https://x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1971575822856392749https://cepa.org/article/putins-propagandists-dismiss-us-statements/Gevorg Mirzayan dismissively implied that Trump is Putin’s apprentice, who has failed to complete his assignment of convincing Ukraine to capitulate and persuading Europe to accept this outcome.https://x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1971576828004593770
>>517324710that's why if you gonna serve go volunteer in a unit/brigade etc of your liking first. They will set you up with some cool dudes even if they dont end up taking you.
With western support, Ukraine will keep on fighting... To the last Russian.
>>517325286>Putin’s Propagandists Dismiss US Statements>“When they point out, ‘President Trump is very disappointed, displeased and upset by Putin,’ perhaps Trump should be pondering whether Putin is disappointed and upset with him.”https://x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1971593367776854083>Meanwhile in Russia: head of the State Duma Defense Committee Andrey Kartapolov criticized Trump for his UN speech and threatened Poland.
>>517325203lets start with this gay little faggot. his dad on the left regularly advocates for nuking my country, the one his faggot kid on the right lives in
https://youtu.be/nTUW9TumcoI?si=iJHdNtHSkh1SdYGw&t=63
>>517324947And then you wonder why Russians are so paranoid and defensive.
>>517325584>Threatens to nuke you >OY VEY HOW CAN YOU RETALIATE THIS IS ANTI RUSSNIGGERISH
>>517324424The same as it's always been: Total Zigger Death.
>>517325396don't be to harsh, the pops wants to blow up your country yes, but the sonny wants to blow you
Put these on ziggers' pathshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amappo
>>517325584good
>>517325697When did Russia threaten to nuke you?
>>517325584>russa dindu nuffin no hate us raycism
Meanwhile in Russia: state TV host Vladimir Solovyov, clearly unsettled by Ukraine's successful strikes against Russia's oil sector, blames General Ben Hodges and implies he should be poisoned like Sergei Skripal, invoking the names of "Petrov & Boshirov."https://x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1971674252362621252https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmYDEebsGRU&list=PLLWQyEN3YRo41QwWb7e8J5YjBX80WmGtG
>>517325783You're happy that Ukrainians are being killed too. You just hate all Europeans.
>>517325852>>517325916
>>517325880The jew cries "Russia!" as he destroys your country.
>>517323061After Russia, Ukraine needs to fuck up Hungary!
>>517324626Enter
>>517325852https://files.catbox.moe/59p61q.mp4
>>517325728kek
>>517325852About once every month or two for the last 4 years
>>517325294Too late for me, my dude. I'm "in the system" too now and have been for a long time. It's not death or injury I fear, it's being wasted. My cousing has had his leg below the knee amputated below the knee due to a freak accident. Not the driver's fault either (bro was the more experienced driver who was supposed to transfer his station). Just a dumb war-time accident no one really is at fault for.I want to serve well further too but as things stand it's "driving nails withe a microscope" kind of deal. This doesn't end here. TZD means TZD and I'm not stopping.
>>517324162what are rusich up to now? haven't heard anything about them in a while
>>517326049When was this recorded?
>>517326099>last 4 yearsit's been going on a lot longer than that bro
A-a-a-and no Ukrainian bro answered me, only scoops of liquid shit that have nothing to do with our war.
>>517326140Good man
>>517326177dunno, probably sitting in limbo like most other propagandists waiting for new directives which aren't coming
>>517326035>you have been visited by donkey>feed him to have immunity against rusniggs bombs
>When did Russia threaten to nuke you?LMAO
>>517326099>the last 4 yearsSo, they never made any such threats before the west launched war on them via the Ukrainian proxy state?
>The AFU counterattack east of Yampil, Lyman direction
https://xcancel.com/FreudGreyskull/status/1971687972635541767#m>Fuel crisis due to Ukrainian strikes reaches Lipetsk region — governor acknowledges the problem Drivers in the Lipetsk region have been complaining since the beginning of the week about high prices and supply disruptions of AI-95 gasoline (82 rubles per liter) at gas stations. Queues are forming at gas stations, and gasoline has started to be distributed via fuel cards. The governor of the Lipetsk region, Igor Artamonov, stated that the problems are related to the logistics of gasoline shipments from certain refineries. “I ask you to remain reasonable and not to panic. The image of a ‘gasoline frenzy’ is actively cultivated, including by our opponents, as one of the elements of an information war. We know, we’ve been through this,” he said. Supply disruptions were also acknowledged by the governor of the Belgorod region, Vyacheslav Gladkov. “I can report that we are trying to keep the situation under control. Although, of course, there are problems. We are interacting at the level of the Russian Government with the sectoral ministry — the Ministry of Energy,” Gladkov said. The governor of the Nizhny Novgorod region, Gleb Nikitin, also spoke about the disruptions. “The temporary disruptions recorded at various gas stations are generally related to fuel supply chains in the macro-region, and it’s not only about the Nizhny Novgorod region,” he wrote. Earlier, the insufficient amount of gasoline was reported by the Russia-installed “head” of annexed Crimea, Sergey Aksyonov, and the “governor” of annexed Sevastopol, Mikhail Razvozhayev. According to Kommersant, these Russian-occupied Ukrainian regions have the most severe gasoline situation — sales have dropped by 50%. In the Rostov region, Mari El, and the Jewish Autonomous Region, the number of gas stations selling gasoline has decreased by 12–14%.
>>517326205spring 2022.on the russian state tv no lesshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eJvwtQJu4
>>517326422>Drivers from the Moscow, Leningrad, Ryazan regions, and several Far Eastern regions report that some stations only dispense 10–20 liters of fuel, and some gas stations have completely switched to selling diesel.Russian Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak called the situation a “small shortage.”“As of today, there is indeed a small shortage of petroleum products, which is being covered by accumulated reserves; this has always been the practice,” he said.To stabilize the market, the government intends to extend the ban on gasoline exports until the end of the year and limit diesel exports. At the same time, Russian authorities do not acknowledge a connection between the “small shortage” of fuel and Ukrainian strikes on refineries.
>>517325998Russians are jews, anon. It's all the same thing. Real jews haven't existed since Hadrian.
>>517326140Commendable. Godspeed.
>>517326281Remember this, no matter what odds are against you: you are the protector of your household, and thus by extension your country, and you will find a way to keep the enemies of your people at bay. If you falter and fall, there will be other men by your side to hold the line. Never fear. The force of good above is on your side. Be wise, be considerate, be merciful, but also be mindful that enemies of your people, and enemies of Europe, are poised to strike. And you will not be found wanting.
>BREAKING: U.S. military officials are drawing up options to target drug traffickers inside Venezuela, and strikes within that country’s borders could potentially begin in a matter of weeks, four sources told NBC News.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/us-preparing-options-military-strikes-drug-targets-venezuela-sources-s-rcna233734
>>517326425>spring 2022.Checks out; I figured it would've been some time after the west provoked this war.
>>517324561Thanks for your service, looooool
>>517326351You mean since they tried to conquer a sovereign nation they had sworn to leave alone?
>>517326351
If only you knew how brown things really are
>>517326587What sovereign nation? Ukraine ceased to be one in 2014.
>>517326293Unfortunately this is proofs Ukraine is winning too slowly! NAFO might as well surrender before Russia nooks! 2 more weeks and you'll be sorry!
>>517326547Same goes for you. Especially for you. You face an internal enemy now unlike the Greek. Support your own but when anyone gets in the way, they can fuck off if they don't want to get along. UK will rise again amongst peers.
look at this vile fucking subhuman rat moving the goalpost over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
why is girkin more honest than the average shitskin who shill russia for free cow piss?
>>517326699double checkedspeak louder, i didn't hear ya
>>517326560Good.
>>517326698So? That's just like your opinion, man
>>517326557You're preaching to the choir, brother, I am well aware and I've experienced my share of shit, I get it, I appreciate it nonetheless
>>517326805i mean it's funny how dilettantly he tries it, they should be using him on some normie social media not here, where nobody even falls for his kike tricks
>>517326913girkin has an autistic inability to lie and say things that are false. it's a very un-Russian trait
>>517327019It's a fact.
>>517326953What a slut showing so much bare leg! I bet he's VERY popular amongst the other Russian back at basecamp!
>>517327028In my opinion encouragement is never wasted. Might be our mentality. We prefer actions to words. My father worked hard so that I could have the life I have (a home, a computer, perhaps above else an exemplary education) and this reflects in my mentality. We Ukrainians prefer to do, not just "say". Words are nice but they don't protect you, they don't feed you, they might guide you but they might be misinterpreted. Actions are always better.Funny note bing that I had a half (?) Greek co-worker once. He was a very good man but seduced by the enemies propaganda before we lost touch (way before 2014). I really need to talk to him while I still breathe but time is so short now.
>>517326035what a good donkey!
>>517326913He has 3 times the IQ of a shiteating, pissdrinking Indian
I sometimes want Putin to drop a few tactical nukes into Europe just to shut Eurofaggots up. Kallas, Rutte, Merz, Starmer, Macron have all inexplicably chosen Ukraine as their hill to die on while their own countries sink in debt and uncontrolled migration so let them have what they want.
>>517327581yeah, it happens in eastern countries, the more "religious" someone is the more he is susceptible to kremlinslop and that was done on purpose by western media.
>>517327944I want Europe to deport all brown people, including you.
>>517327222couple of three things checkedit's because he's a barefaced imperialist through and through. while the kremlin kike and his cadre of thugs pretend to be statesmen he doesn't waste his time and dignity with such mendacious theatralics
>>517326913Girkin is a jealous liar who betrayed his brother in arms to push his glory.ofc westoids love him kek
How long until Russia pulls a Belka and nukes itself to stop a war it started?
total ryssä death
When do we stop pretending this war is winnable anyway?
>>517328568i'd much prefer this outcomebrb replaying
>>517328687>we
>>517328687>weWho?
>>517328808>Who?Probably rusniggers
>>517324168>flagYep, as always
>>517325154>why use the VPN bro?What VPN?
>>517326364lol that tiny little speck is probably smaller than the Vatican.
>>517328039Oh, it's not fault of his due to being Greek but due to being groomed by said propaganda. As I said, he's a good man but those are the first to fall prey to the evil men who know what they're doing. He was outraged for the right reasons but only because he was fed falsehoods. In fact I admire him being so principled in standing against what he was made to see as evil.
why can't rosissyan pederastion protect their refineries?
>>517329108>russia is losing too slowlyok, second military in the world
>>517328039Also if that matter his first name is equivalent to Leonidas. His surname is Greek as well. Strange that he hasn't went to the wise men of mount Sinai or something similar but a man's path to the Diving Good are incomprehensible by others.
>>517329191JUST STOP OIL
>>517329261Even during the battle of Berlin there were times where your Volkssturm may have launched a counterattack and managed to retake a block or a park or something. But this did not change the overall fact that you were losing the battle and the war.
Also it should've been "Divine" but for some reason my fingers type whatever they want. Ironic.
>>517329149The thing is to see past falsehoods, my man. To try and break the conditioning we've all been put through. Then you realise that many stuff are really futile but the main purpose remains, a part of which you described here>>517326557
>Even during the battle of Berlin zig zig zug zug resonabool pootie poot pootThe Total Zigger Death train has no brakes.
Russia is __________________
You guys are making the wrong choice because you can't see the bigger picture.
Hello lads, I've discovered the new ultimate way of owning the Ziggers: posting their immigration and Muslim population statistics.As their main argument against "the decadent west" is claiming that it's weak and getting colonized by the Muslims, they literally don't know what to say when facing the fact that they're, as a matter of fact, being replaced themselves.Feel free to use these pictures
>>517330001
>>517329928Of course. I didn't intend to sound condescending, just in case. It's just at my worst I can be the least eloquent (far from the likes of Cato the Elder, obviously) so I write redundantly. Just remember that despite it all seeming very grim not all is lost. Difficult battles are hard to win, and do not necessarily win wars, but they are still worth fighting in.
>>517330063
>>517330001Islam is socially conservative and even Hitler preferred it over Christianity The white race is decadent after centuries of being goy cattle for corporations and pedophilic liberal elites
>>517329997
>>517330063>people are leaving from fucking Kosovo to settle in MoscowyGrim.
>>517330001>>517330063while this may be true facts not confirmed without bodies on the ground anything beats being polish.
>>517330001they don't care, like everything else they will gaslight you by claiming they have the good muslims or it doesn't count because they conquered them also something something jews. You cannot debate a rusnigg because they don't even believe in what they say.
>>517330328The Taliban bans gay marriage, feminism, abortion and usury while the decadent west allows it. You don't really have an argument against it besides cope.
>>517330303Right, in case they questioned the validity of these stats ("muh kikepedia") - they're basically based on their own governmental organization lmao
>>517330209I'm sure even Hitler preferred something that doesn't enslave the average citizen to the (((merchants))) by proxy, even for the best reasons. One can respect Christians for praising the good of their faith (and to a lesser extent their religion) without subscribing to it in entirety.
*kills Putin using the rarest technique, the Bhutanese triple-reversed pinkie-twist*
>>517330430what about anything beats being polish statistics?
>>517330001see >>517330209they just adopt it as le stronk culcha that is worthy of conquering europe or if the russian kike larps as a white supremacist he says that shitskins in russia are actually docile and respect their white masters which is also a brazen lie
>>517330389>Look, having your culture erased by muslims isn't a big deal, can't you see they hate gays and feminists???shut up nigger
>>517330328In such situation you simply bring up the Crocus City Hall massacre lol
I want war. I want more dead russians. I want them to have extreme poverty, famine, rampant sicknesses we haven't seen in a hundred years, freezing to death by hundreds of thousands.
>>517330550>>517330566Okay Polack you can stop seething now
>>517329997if russia wasn't a part of that group id probably join them
>>517330550See >>517330601In any case, switching to this tactics should definitely distance them from western chuds
>>517323061>mfw big arrow warfare is Ukraine's drones
>>517330607as i like to often say about this:their 90s will feel like joke, like a theme park ride of misery compared to the real and never ending hell that is coming for them
>>517330639your concession is accepted, nigger
>>517330566>Culture>ErasedWhat culture? The one that allows homosexuality and trans rights. It's better off being erased.
>>517330566hitler was a zionist. What culture? The hate russia crowd are some of the lowest iq shizoid groypers out there.
>>517330855>The one that allows homosexualityJudeo christian moral teachings are the entire reason Western culture developed a fixated hatred with gays in the first place. In pre-christian Europe no one gave a shit
>>517330855>>517330875my christian culture, something that is entirely foreign to your subhumans. Now shut the fuck up and get droned for my entertainment you animals.
>>517330607Nothing at all unreasonable in anything you wish. The world needs more moderates like you.14:1 TZD
>>517331038Christianity is proto-Bolshevism though
why can't the pozzed federation win a war?
I don't care what people do in their own lives. If some other person wants to be a flaming gay faggot, it doesn't make me seethe>NOOOOOOOO THAT'S DEGENFirst of all, why do you care what someone else is doing...And also, what makes it "degen">IT'S DEGEN BECAUSE IT'S SIN, THE BIBLE SAYS SOThe Kojiki says it's "sin" to be in the same house as a pregnant woman...If someone ignores this are they a "degen"?>No, because that's a false religion so its rules don't count...So it's just personal opinion. No religion or its teachings have any basis in reality whatsoever but are superstitions handed down by certain groups
>>517331078Christianity is an idea of a benevolent omnipotent and omniscient deity. The zigger being wrong is irrelevant, I believe in people that believe in good. Of course the Paradise is impossible to re-create in our mortal world. But it is still worth trying.
>>517331038You never been to a church nobody speaks like that and goes to church retard. Get meds figure out what your birth name is and gender then consider posting.
>>517323061>>Hungarian drones violated Ukrainian airspace - Zelenskyy said. "Preliminary, they could have been conducting reconnaissance of industrial potential in Ukrainian border areas."bros, would Hungary actually be stupid enough to make a land grab or would this result in Orban being couped instantly?
>>517329411Funny thing is that tranny has been fucked in the ass way less times than the average russian soldier.
>>517331569Because those things erode the fabric of the real society. Not the fake society from "social" media, the real one which is woefully neglected by the youth nowadays because they check out one way or another.Yes, the society can be improved somewhat, but complete lack of participation is even worse. Mankind - or humankind for the particularly illiterate and triggered - is nor perfect. It is still worth perpetuating.There will probably "always" be aberrants of this kind or another. Doesn't mean that re-orienting them into something more productive isn't a worthwhile endeavour.
>>517331796considering your flag your mother beats them both
>>5173317351. Orban was planning a land grab in 2022, under the guise of protecting hungarian minority from the collapsing Ukraine.2. Currently it looks like Hungarian drones run recon for russia, since russian recon can't reach western Ukraine.3. Russia shopped around potential land grabs of Ukraine even before 2014 to other countries, including but not limited to Poland (mentioned by ex-president of Poland).
>>517331735More like>would Orban and his admin really be stupid enough to use the resources of the country they are controlling to help Moscowthe answer to which is apparently "yes".Also did Lithuania say anything in UN yet about finding debris from zigger drones on its territory? They aren't obligated to but so far it should be in their interest.
>>517332002The worst part is that niggers like Orban never ask the "minorities" what they actually want. Have they not enjoyed the wildest freedoms a democracy can offer until they "desired" (not on their own obviously) more? What were they lacking?
>>517332250Bruh, of course nobody cares what they think and want, those "minorities" are always just an excuse.
>>517331569theres barely any arguments against gays besides muh religiontrans is differentchild stuff is demonic >inb4 slippery slope
>>517331721seethe, nigger, your a shitskin and not welcome in my culture
>>517332468That's the thing: I do. Whenever that comes up I care. What does the average guy wants is my first thought. This is probably why I was always disgusted with politics.I know our country has other ethnics and it's often complicated but I don't want to go either way. Like, if they wanted to they could always leave and get the neighbour's citizenship. But they haven't. So that means they don't really want to be part of that country that existed since X century but want to be part of this one.
>>517326557You guys have the right mentality and it feels like shit that you're not getting the backing you should be for the fight you're in.Metaphoorically crossing my fingers that orange man's pivot lasts and there's less of Jake "Escalation Management (Cuck)" Sullivan fuckery from Kegsbreath and Witlessoff for some increase in US hardware at least and/or his administration actually notices the polling and letters from the public.
>>517331414Based Miku poster.
>>517327279Whatever you say commie
>>517332915Slow and steady wins the race. The cost is horrific but it is what it is. The war is of a greater scope than this war, really. It's for survival of Europeans and our descendants (either don't look up your Christmas carols or do look them up, either way it's going to be interesting).Remember, always, that no matter how it ends here there is always your personal fight wherever you are. Shrug off all the demoralisation shit that is thrown your way 24/7 everywhere. You are your own man.
Oh for fucks sake, I didn't came here to debate society and the existance of god. Just defeat the russians already and leave the afterlife for later. Follow Olga of Kyivs example and burn those fuckers to the ground, will ya?
>>517333408does this count?
>>517333408>he doesn't know that Helga has burned women and children that belonged to those men who decided to defy (in a disgusting way, to be fair) the duke of KyivMany such cases. Her getting canonised is adding insult to injury. It's something like Manson getting canonised.
>>517333826Ask slop - sorry, "AI" - what to do if you got both the wrong shoe for the left foot (a shoe for the right foot) and the wrong shoe for the right foot at the same time next. Then ponder whether this "intelligence" is fit to control your life, directly or by proxy like by controlling shipments, power plants and so on.
>>517333643Your point?>>517333638Yupp.
>>517333274I have personal views in which I believe the US, actual legal wording aside, should have honored the >spirit of the Budapest memorandum. Practical/realpolitik views is that it prevents turdie ideals of going Nork and getting nukes to allow unlimited shitter behaviors. More emotional aspect is I spent 15+ years learning about Soviet military hardware and the Ukrainian connection behind some of the better systems* and gained immense respect for your nation given how it existed underneath the boot of Moscow for so long while being the actual talent.Because of that it feels immensely shitty you guys have to pay a huge price. I basically believe that the US + NATO + EU nations should have given you guys enough to achieve an earlier and much more (emphasis) military victory (as "non-optimal" as it is for ensuring long term sovereignty via devastating Russia economically and thus militarily) rather than it dragging on into the present and into the future. Very talented people are being wasted in Ukraine right now from this war, as much as it will fan the flames of Ukrainian Nationalism and neuter Russia's future capability in the practical sense of securing NATO's flank in effect. You guys deserve better for how awful history has always been for Eastern Europeans.*t. rantings from a Morozov/Kharkiv plant enjoyer.
>>517334255All AI can do is match patterns, and that by itself is an existential threat to those that rely on compartmentalization and deception.
>>517334483We have to pay a huge price for our retardation. First after 1991 for not truly appreciating what we got, then in 2009 for not truly appreciating what we got, then in 2014... I think I'm repeating myself.Either way, we needed a BAD wake-up call and hopefully this is it. There are no simple and easy solutions. We have what we have, we can fuck up again or we can make it work, the end. We couldn't have a bloodless and easy restoration of independence as 3 fucking historical instances in short term have proven so time to move on and learn from the historical lessons.>wastageThis makes me suffer every waking moment of every day, and then every dreaming moment of every night. It is what it is. You can't change it, I can't change it (I tried) so until there is a way to do things in a way that won't change everything for the worse it's just clench your teeth and wait.>>517335001Oh, I know what "AI" actually is. I'm fully qualified to tell but no one listens. Whatever, I'll go back to learning whatever I can about rockets. Ought to make more difference eventually.
>>517335708Then in 2019 but starting from 2014 to be precise but that's a nuance hardly appreciated by many outside of this country put into trials by God seems like.
>>517323452Anyone got this pic with pig?
>>517329997>totalitarian states ruled by uncaring despots>the free worlddoes retardation come naturally to BRICS faggots or is it the lead in the water?
>>517329997>occupied USAI know what he means by this, but over the past six months a few Americans I know that were sceptical of US support for Ukraine have realised that Putin is just insane. They assumed that when Trump had meetings with Zelenskyy and then met with Putin that it would be to force a ceasefire (on Ukraine) but Putin kept rejecting "favourable" offers.
>>517334323My point, my intellectually deficient simian, that she over-reacted in what is now trademark zigger manner. She massacred civilians to prove a point. She made a huge portion of a Slavic tribe extinct to prove their leaders wrong. If you think that's okay I have a bullet with your name.
Why are russoids and third worlder obssesed with our granny first lady ?Lets say shes proven to be a tranny, what does it change to their lives ?
>>517336356It's also perfectly normal for US citizens to expect a "cease fire at all cost" until they learn more about the conflict. And until they, ultimately, learn that their enemy's apparent admission of defeat in Cold War was a feint (an actual one).
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>>517336592is that model supposed to be his daughter? lmao
>>517336592>posting western political theater>it's the retard version for US retardsyou are gonna win this ukies
>>517336493They aren't. It's just a weapon in their arsenal that will hopefully sway minds and/or sow discord. That's literally all of it. I've seen plenty of actually masculine women but literally all of them have been working in commie "heavy industry" factories with toxic substances so funny how that works. Also thankfully all found happiness in motherhood usually thanks to very significant interventions from our MDs.
>>517336413>I have a bullet with your nameVery poetic and dramatic, LMAOYou see, the idea that there is a "clean" war is just bullshit. First and foremost, war is about reaching goals. Sometimtes that means demoralizing and doing things that are not so nice.If you could kill 10 russian women and end the war in this second, would you do it? Think about it: 10 women against ten thousands of lifes? And if so - would you do it with 100 lifes?
>>517326560niiiiiiiice. It's about time maduro and his cronies learn to fear after they've killed hundreds and thousands of innocents civilians and students during these last 25 years.
>>517336673I think the black one is his daughter, as far as I remember she was charred
>>517323061>LatestThat's not a "Latest". THIS is a LATEST!>Zelensky admits the Ukraine is losing the war>>>/gif/29523477>FSB Counter-Terror Unit Gorynych of Donetsk liquidates AfU drone operators targetting civilians near Toretsk and Horlovka>>>/gif/29519557>Russian troops annihilate Ukrainian troops, fly the flag of Russia over Kalinovskoye>>>/gif/29519562>Stormtrooper wounded by shrapnel is carried by his battalion commander 200 yards to safety>>>/gif/29519566>Soldiers of the 71st Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment liquidated a Ukrainian T-72 tank crew>>>/gif/29519570>36th Separate Guards Brigade of Vostok liberates Beryozovoye in Dnepropetrovsk oblast>>>/gif/29519575>DRG cutting barbwire, trench sweeping>>>/gif/29519578>NOT COMFY; Banderite subhumans target old woman being evacuated, wound her, lure Russian medics to FPV drone strike>>>/gif/29519583>Belaya Gora pipe operation into Konstantinovka>>>/gif/29519590>Stormtroopers ambush AfU scouts in Krasnoarmeysk>>>/gif/29519596>DRG are the boogie men of Ukrainian spetsnaz>>>/gif/29519603>They can't keep getting away with it!; Russian stormtroopers crawl through pipes into Kupyansk's outskirts>>>/gif/29519610>Video of Russian stormtroopers officially flying the Russian flag in liberated Rusin Yar>>>/gif/29519618>Gerans slam into Kruikiv bridge, Kremenchuk>>>/gif/29519621>Warehouse in Kiev double tapped, patriot interceptor self implodes late, 9/07/25>>>/gif/29519624>Russian POV drone sends TCC bastards to Hell>>>/gif/29519627>Alfa FSB interrogation of captured GUR commander last month near Brynsk>>>/gif/29519631>Mobile Anti-Air night action at the front>>>/gif/29519633>About 50 Azov kosher nazis annihilated in mechanized suicidal charge in the area of Karpovka, Srednee, Shandrigolovo, and Derilovo>>>/gif/29519638>Azog Commissars slaughtered in failed push on Novomikhailovka>>>/gif/29519643>T-72B3M Turtle Tank storming Krasnoarmeysk>>>/gif/29519646
>>517330001I'm sure all the Western Europeans who have been murdered by shitskins imported by your side will be smiling in their graves when they hear this.
>>517335708>Waste of lifeIf it means anything, I think my personal thoughts on a swift battlefield victory versus the current warfare is that it would secure immediate sovereignty and peace; but it would leave an unknown future which I would believe would receive constant challenges to it afterwards ("2014" style fuckery and bolder moves). The current path you're on, while I believe it to be unfortunate in the loss of life and opportunity for talented individuals leads to a much stronger outcome in regards to national sovereignty.So in the present I'll quote Thomas Jefferson:>The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
>>517336919There is always a better way, and no anyway unless the women openly collaborated with the invader's military. You're doing kikery for kikery's sake, which is hardly surprising considering you're afraid to show your flag.
>>517330566>having your culture erased by muslims isn't a big dealA British politician recently caused controversy at home by (accurately) observing that major cities are well on their way to becoming majority-Muslim.
>>517336984Really I'm more concerned about Baal worshippers infiltrating into the South American countries than a specific kiked country leader. Stay vigilant and do not let them take over your countries.
Kek, Russia is going to keep all of Ukraine. You can only win if the US intervenes but that's fucking retarded. Dumb piggies.
>>517330607Feel free to go volunteer.
>>517337336>There is always a better wayIn a pefect world, maybe. But then again, in a perfect world there wouldn't be wars in the first place.>which is hardly surprising considering you're afraid to show your flag.Ah, resorting to name calling now?
>>517337320Efficient warfare would've been at least an order of magnitude less taxing, duh. As for outcomes, I'm hesitant to say that our majority is mature enough to learn from the lesson fully. If this is the will of the higher power than so be it. Those who understand will have to work around it and around other influences that are mentally retarded or malicious. Such is life. Life was never promised to be easy, it just seemed that way. We will prevail, all of us. Some say "Whites", some say "Aryans" but I believe such names have fully outlived their usefulness and it's just "civilised" because that perfectly outlines what a human should be. Anything else and it's confined to animalistic - still protected, mind you - but limited existence. And no kind of kvetching about muh tribes or muh opression will change it. Live up to the demanding label of "human" or stay in whatever primitive existence you deserve. Fucking up with civilisation and other humans means you either go back or go extinct too, no discussion.
>The gas stations will be fully supplied within two weeks>two weeks
>>517323061That is just like my Hoi4 map gamerinos!!
Also than/then, fuck. I usually don't make this and many other typical mistakes. Not the best night for me I guess.
Also LMAOing at everyone else going to sleep.
Is it true that Ukraine ministry (of economics?)said they will need 8 mil poojets and other thirdworlders or this is propoganda? Any Ukrainian here can verify or debunk?
>>517339158I've mostly stopped reading the news because other sources post the same things faster. It that's true I guess I'll die killing the jeets they try to import.
>>517337889>Efficient warfare would've been at least an order of magnitude less taxing, duh. To clarify what I was trying to say: I think the immediate peace achieved through immediate military means would not have galvanized Ukrainian society to have the immense streak of Ukrainian Nationalism present today. The continued cruelty and barbarianism that Russia unleashed over these long years was a catalyst in a way for maturing your society and awakening some of them from a long "Russophonic slumber" (no offense meant, just there was definite empathy in regards to lingustic and cultural commonality points being weaponized).I think in that battlefield victory causing Moscow to withdraw forces would have left their military more intact and they would have continued the long war over the decades. This is all while I wouldn't know what direction your society would develop in and if it would remain vulnerable to the old manipulative fuckery that Russia practiced well before 2022. Now I look at your society and I see it being so immensely nationalistic that I believe that you'll have a reprieve for some decades against that manipulation. It also is a catalyst for reform away from some of the Soviet legacy I believe - given how much of it has brought up in how has been a parasite on your society. Would that have ever happened under the more ideal short term battlefield victory? Maybe, but I think there might be less attention, focus and rage towards it as you have today.
>>517332002>protecting minorities Fat fuck thinks he's Stalin? Same excuse russians used when invading us in 1939
>>517339377Stay strong. Next elections you most elect most hardcore nationalists.
what's russia actually fighting against in this war? they say they're fighting against nato, but that doesn't really explain why they're invading ukraine. i get the feeling this is just a desperate attempt to stay geopolitcally relevant, probably fueled by (what they saw as) success in syria.
>>517336673Candace Owens and the French president's ghoul tranny wife
>>517339392Oh, I got that. I still think that our majority would've learned even less than it had in that case. And yeah, we had even some "moscowphiles" convert after 2020 (but not after 2014 strangely enough but I guess that was "too far away" for them).>no offense meantNone taken. They've tried to steal the name and since they're so keen on righting historical injustices they're going to take all of it now.Our society is still vulnerable to hostile influences and our politicians seem unwilling to do the right (not the unpopular but the right) things to prevent that.The maleficent influence of USSR on everyone it touched (PRC should've been taken note too but it's blind and deaf), not just us would definitely not been appreciated fully, that's certain. Definitely worth counting your blessings, so to speak.
>>517315818Rivet Joint is a Bong aircraft.It's usually accompanied by two jets that aren't usually on flight 24 ever since the Russians almost tried to shoot it down (but the missile failed)Also, unrelated but was the Romania/Ukraine airspace thing just some zigger propaganda, I'm hearing nothing on the news about itGiven that Ukraine and Romania are currently partnering and building drones it seems suspect to me.
>>517339804I've had fingers crossed for a particular party (and their leader) but they're too busy fighting. Sucks but I guess understandable. I won't settle for some "neither meat, nor fish" kind of shit like I haven't since 2004.
>>517339930Oh nvm Hungarian not Romanian.
>>517339899After 2022, of course. I'm really falling apart tonight.
>>517339805>what's russia actually fighting against in this war?Russia is fighting against russians, and ukrainians are just a borrowed dagger.
>>517339991But im afraid you will be be cucked by EU faggots if somthing nationalist takes power. Lets hope EU will change untill that time.
>>517337225These can't be the latest, half of them are old.
>>517340385The nuance being that EU is an organisation that supposedly represents the wills of the nations involved which all have their own governments. If the nations stop believing that EU in this exact form it exists in represents what they want, it will cease to be relevant. That's the power of the people in action. We decide what we need, not someone else.Just like we can make an equivalent of NATO as a defensive alliance, we can make an equivalent of EU as an economical (and only that!) alliance. I'm a big fan of preserving ethnic and cultural nuances and seems like EU as it is now is not very conductive for that.
>>517340385Also, for what it's worth, even if EU just effectively rebrands with "homework" done in the meantime to become thins new thing (and possibly leaving Hungary and Slovenia by the wayside if they tarry too much), that's still fine because function is what's important. Not words, not declarations but what the thing actually does, in practice, in reality.
>>517339899>MoscowphilesI think Bucha and other cases of Musucuvite barbarianism meets the depletion of all male Donbabwaeans may have woken them up to the reality that they too would simply be burned as a resource to feed Moscow.From what casual understanding I know about your national history in the late 80s early 90s one of the Soviet Republic leaders you had ran off to Moscow rather than to be the first Ukrainian President or something.* Something about being #2 or less in Moscow appealed more than being #1 in Ukraine in that era and that mentality permeated with those types.*Heard about it from the Ushanka Show who himself is a Rusphone and "Soviet" creation rather than being distinctly Ukrainian or Russian but obviously the war has galvanized him strongly to be Ukrainian, even if he emmigrated to the US.>Our society is still vulnerable to hostile influences and our politicians seem unwilling to do the right (not the unpopular but the right) things to prevent that.I think it is the cowardice of modern politicians to avoid repeating the mistakes of the early 1900s in the context of the long peace that followed after the collapse of the USSR. At least it is that way in the West. Acting with relative boldness in an era where it looked like the "End of History" was coming true was risky and I can understand why they were weak willed in allowing for "little crimes against humanity", "little green men aggressions to take place" to occur because they thought the overall direction of history was going in the direction of neoliberal peace porn.1/2
>>517335708>We have to pay a huge price for our retardation. First after 1991 for not truly appreciating what we got, then in 2009 for not truly appreciating what we got, then in 2014... I think I'm repeating myself.USA has similar demons of bad karma stemming from bad decisions generations ago
>>517339899>The maleficent influence of USSR on everyone it touched (PRC should've been taken note too but it's blind and deaf), not just us would definitely not been appreciated fully, that's certain.I have strong concerns over China's current capabilities with TikTok. Propaganda these days I think has far more effectiveness than it ever did during the Cold War. Political and ideological schizo-cults emerge faster than before and their ideals propagate faster than ever.I heard an interesting anecdotal example with Operator Starsky talking about some trainer in the Ukrainian military, good person and all but spouted off some weird one off points from Russian propaganda, still pro Ukrainian nationalist views but had some weird news stories and whatnot in their belief set. Turns out they were getting agitpropped by modern social media.There is something about the older and younger generations (there's a little weird window between what is considered late Gen X, some millennials and to elder zoomers) where a degree of "tits or gtfo" or general skepticism was present. The generations before and after that tend to lack that internet skepticism and gets drawn in easily. It hurts me to say this, but I see unironic boomers and zoomers doing the same dumbass behavior of casually regurgitating propaganda from literally who "influencers" (I loathe the term) without ever doing a 5 second search to check if what they heard was real. "GROK IS THIS REAL?" dumbassery definitely not counting for research. It hurts more given how readily accessible information these days (*00s peak accessibility) compared to what it was like in the early 90s.In that regard I think China is a nastier monster than the USSR because they exist in modernality and have definite control over these modern methods and means that the Soviets couldn't even dream of along with a captive audience and a lack of context (Cold War, WW2) as to why certain nations/powers are definite shitters.2/2
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>>517340965>in the late 80s early 90s one of the Soviet Republic leaders you had ran off to Moscow rather than to be the first Ukrainian President or something.* Something about being #2 or less in Moscow appealed more than being #1 in Ukraine in that era and that mentality permeated with those types.Can't even place him but I haven't been interested in politics back then because it seemed pointless. The relatively new things like microchips seemed way more exiting back then.>>517341060Hardly surprising considering the sheer number of our people who have emigrated to USA in the XIX and early XX centuries. I think there was a wave in XVIII too but not very certain.
>>5173380382 more weeks
realistically, is russia gonna win this thing or not?
>>517341921A country that pumps 2/3 of its natural gas through 65°21'35.6"N 73°25'17.2"E can't expect to win when shit goes strategic.
>>517341921realistically, no.
>>517341365Oh yeah, one of my least favourite cans of worms.First, there definitely is vulnerability to the glowing kikescreen among vast numbers of people. You counter it by asking "but what about IRL?" and they just stare at you or mumble something incoherent. Someone, somewhere, posted or """vlogged""" something, really? So what? Tell him to go to that country or ask someone whom he trusts unconditionally (like covering his assault kind of trust) to go wherever that is and seeing for himself. Suddenly he's way less sure in whatever the glowscreen told him.>There is something about the older and younger generations (there's a little weird window between what is considered late Gen X, some millennials and to elder zoomers) where a degree of "tits or gtfo" or general skepticism was present.Absolutely. The ones from here that are older have been fed a steady diet of state propaganda and are susceptible to certain angles of attack. The younger are just media thralls which are the same everywhere now, sadly. I think the key being neither of them were among the true pioneers of the World Wide Web but both also thinking that they know enough to be competent when accessing information from its modern horrendous state.Also>slopis my other least favourite can of worms. Take it from an engineer who worked for this now definitely God-forsaken industry for 20 years. And a son of a genius engineer who wanted very little in life beside a happy family (sadly I'm merely a shadow of his greatness). It is absolutely a useful tool in the right hands but the average user takes it for what it is not.Chicoms are definitely a greater threat. They manage to absorb all innovations without it seemingly impacting their derangement (communism). But hopefully it is only apparent and there seem to be signs of the delusion unravelling over there too.
>>517341524https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy5PWPD8adkhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_IvashkoAround 8 minutes 15 seconds past. I find the history of your country to be interesting enough to listen to bits and pieces of it.
>>517341990>>517342013have the dynamics really shifted so quickly?i've always been very bullish on ukraine, just seems wild, like happened overnight
>>517341921Whats a victory?A victory as in the enemy officially surrenders? Probably notA victory as in they own more land then they started with? Its possibleA victory as in what they get out of the war will have been worth starting it? Definetly not
>>517342353Wow, I forgot he existed. The last one "in the line of succession" I remembered was Andropov. Seems like it's thanks to him that we didn't have USSR surviving so I guess he is underapreciated. Also Ivashko used to be a moderately widespread surname here a while ago.
>>517339620>Fat fuck thinks he's Stalin?All of those subhuman corrupt faggots have delusions of grandeur
>>517339899>but not after 2014 strangely enoughI know "pro-russians" who ditched their views after 2014, with some literally switching to Ukrainian language on principle, despite it not being native for them.
>>517341921If Russia was going to win, they would have done so already. Ukraine is getting more and more weapons daily
>>517342304>You counter it by asking "but what about IRL?" and they just stare at you or mumble something incoherent.Unfortunately I run into what Yuri Bezmenov would describe as "demoralized" people. Objective reality and facts mean nothing to their fee-fees which are driven by social media drivel or to put it in slightly closer to contemporary speak: "Vibing with their favorite vlogger.">I feel a bit unclean after typing that little sentence out.>neither of them were among the true pioneers of the World Wide WebThis is unfortunate because I feel that the younger generations had all the potential waiting for them. I am myself a product of someone who was raised on the internet within less than 3 years of being able to walk. I look at what's called "iPad kids" and their less brainrotted elder siblings zoomers and a good deal of them did not survive their high exposure rate to the more modern era of the internet (social media addicts, smartphone swiping) too well. It hurts a lot more to see them be frankly as bad as the boomers they hate in not wanting to willingly research information with how accessible it became (compared to what it was like in the early 90s and before). Of course, the change from a much more chaotic, anarchic but very diverse and less "globohomo" ("Corporate Memphis" embodied) internet to what it is today definitely didn't help them.>Neural nets, LLMs, et alToo much hype and too much lack of brainpower+skepticism = Really retarded attitudes towards it. The weird parasocial relationships with LLMs where people get effectively cyberpsychosis with them from is concerning to me given how prevalent it seems. I would have thought these people were schizos in waiting but it seems the manifestation rate is a bit high alongside with the after effects of COVID (isolation, social exposure/learning for zoomers and gen A damage, etc).
>>517341921Even Strelok agrees they cannot win an attrition war which is exactly what ukies are doing by daily bombings on refineries and oil depots.
>>517342909Doubt that's a sign of that specifically because things like that are always an excuse. Just like "Druze-speaking people" or whatever a certain country is using as an excuse now.>>517343002I've never met one before 2022. It all seemed like a misunderstanding that "someone" will soon fix. Like it couldn't be happening for real. Turns out we are the only ones who can fix it.
>>517343142>Unfortunately I run into what Yuri Bezmenov would describe as "demoralized" people. Objective reality and facts mean nothing to their fee-fees which are driven by social media drivel or to put it in slightly closer to contemporary speak: "Vibing with their favorite vlogger."Grim. Take them into the wilds. Like camping or something. Get them to feel what they are and what the world really is. If they resist I guess they're a lost cause. But nothing beats "the vibe" of just fishing and then cooking what you caught at a campfire.>This is unfortunate because I feel that the younger generations had all the potential waiting for them.Of course. The corporations caught them hook, line and sinker from early vulnerable years. Their parents fucked up like their parents' parents with TVs except TVs weren't yet as destructive because everyone was forced to go play outside. Now you take the glowscreen with you outside (and to the school, and to the fucking shitter too if that wasn't enough) so you're completely fucked.>I would have thought these people were schizos in waiting but it seems the manifestation rate is a bit high alongside with the after effects of COVID (isolation, social exposure/learning for zoomers and gen A damage, etc).Not getting into the powertrip governments taken with cov2 here but the fact as it happened definitely did not help whatsoever. And no, you're right to conclude that the mental disability is not inherent to the majority but cleverly forced onto them. All in the name of profit, in service of Mammon. So even those who would urge you to not attribute it to malice for the sake of simplicity would be wrong - it's just the wrong kind of malice as well but it's still malice and has disastrous results.
>>517342304>ChicomsEthnically related to them but natural born American. I have immense exposure to their propaganda via family and it is not looking good at all. This alongside with how TikTok enthralls the younger generation hurts me a lot given how many stories I can share about how absolutely demoralized and co-opted they are but that also is a bit of a regional aspect for where I am.>>517342690https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kY2V7R-jYsSergei is an interesting guy to listen to. He's old enough to remember the Soviet era. He's young enough to know how shit things were. He's also was a "Soviet citizen" before he was Ukrainian in terms of his previous natl. identity - down to having some (previous) positive feelings towards Putin in the past given the "apparent reformer moves." I look at him as an interesting case of being an example Ukrainian Russophone who was the creation of the Soviet system.I'll remark in a way he reminded me of Chinese (not in a direct sense but rather the immigrant experience of realizing the system is shit but being taken for a ride with the post Soviet/"post Communist economy" nation that followed) in some ways, but China didn't turn into a pariah state enough for the Chinese in roughly the same generational bracket to realize how much of a shitter country it is and instead feel pride towards it because they treat the national ego (which is really Xi's egotism) as their own "ego" so anything that makes Xi lose face makes China lose face and makes them feel like they themselves are being attacked from losing face...In Sergei's case he obviously realized what the fuck is up but I look at my family and their attitudes with China going Wolf Warrior with concern. It hurts more to see what TikTok does to younger Americans domestically with how propagandized they are. I don't think Cold War Americans (granted, my understanding is poorer in this regard) fell for Soviet propaganda as hard as what I can see with some zoomers these days.
>>517343199>Doubt that's a sign of that specifically because things like that are always an excuseIt's more of a "well of course I'm smart and great, if I wasn't then I wouldn't be in power for X years", which then gets put onto "we'll do X and use Y as a cover for it, yes, I'm very smart".>I've never met one before 2022For me the two biggest demolition charges against any "pro-russian" views were 2004 and 2008:- during 2004 I've noticed just how fucked up most of the "regular normal russians" instantly became because of the 2004 protests and such, with their media lying and them buying it up (because that's what they already thought deep inside), and disregarding any alternative info from people actually local and inside the events. This was the time pretty much before paid shills and other crap and internet usage wasn't even that widespread in the RU and UA society, only people with enough money, skills or interests had that, so generally the quality of the audience was way better and still it took nothing for them to go from 0 to 60 in their fucked up bullshit;- during 2008 and their invasion of Georgia it was the final nail in the coffin for any normal views of russia for me, specifically because of how those people and their society overall (including their "liberal icon martyr Navalny") all went full nazi against Georgia and Georgians, inventing alternative reality bullshit about them somehow being at fault, despite russians invading the country. It was rather obvious why they've invaded, because the couldn't take Georgia becoming a normal country and thus slipping away from their influence, simple as;
>>517341921First: Define a "victory" state for Russia. Bonus points for it being one that Putin would accept ("Freeze the font" = not qualifying for bonus).
>>517343621>Helping them touch grassI really want to but I think some people are a bit of lost causes. I was called an unironic boomer in my mid-late 20s by a "zoomer" who was merely a few years younger than me and it seems these types have become a bit too common. I hope that to a degree that when they fall out from their universities/parents basement they have to confront reality.>Who am I kidding I had a few ask me about "adulting things" like how to use a washing machine properly while they were in their mid 20s whatthefuckiswrongwithpeoplethesedaysandamIthegrumpyoldman.>GlowscreenWhat's worse is the algorithmic component. I feel that there was more innocence in things like early "YOU"tube back when it was far more independent and less driven to be the lowest common denominator in presentation. The hyper-targeting/"personalization" via modern social media was something that outpaced human society and perhaps human evolution (in terms of how humans are "wired" in regards to social relationship) and is effectively what firewater was for the Native Americans/opium for the Chinese/etc in terms of addiction and damage.
>>517343666>Chicoms>Ethnically related to themEmphasis on "coms", mate. You're not at fault for being born what you were born as. You do know that there are people born into the small hat tribes that reject the evil too, right? You are what you make yourself.And thankfully no one is born a commie, you become one and if you are still one past like 25 it's entirely on you and your lacking pre-frontal lobe function.>He's young enough to know how shit things were.You don't have to be young enough to appreciate improvement. I had two generations before me to attest to that.>but China didn't turn into a pariah state enough for the Chinese in roughly the same generational bracket to realize how much of a shitter country it is and instead feel pride towards it because they treat the national ego (which is really Xi's egotism) as their own "ego" so anything that makes Xi lose face makes China lose face and makes them feel like they themselves are being attacked from losing face...Grim too. I don't want them to turn into a pariah state but I want them to wake up from the delusion that communism (or "totally not communism because we say so right now") works. It always ends in mass graves. Unmarked mass graves. Horrors, tragedies, suffering, deaths. This is the only real communism, in practice. Not a child's idea of everything good for everyone except those bad people - the millions the regime will kill before realising it's doing it wrong, that nothing is working, that it's only misery and poverty from that point onwards forever, that innovation and creativity are crushed by the doctrines of what is now allegedly a mummy in a ziggurat (but has been replaced by wax at this point, entirely). Chinese, as much as that word makes sense, same as "Han", can be a people achieving things without being a plague of locusts indifferent to anything but... what, by the way? What is their ideal? Their goal? Victory of the proletarian revolution across the world? LOL
>>517344309>I really want to but I think some people are a bit of lost causesNot all of them. During the last 8 years or so I accidentally became a surrogate father figure to four zoomers (it's a long story) and helped them turn their life around, which also affected their views on things and behavior.
>>517343666Also, I don't think tiktok does more damage that discord has already done. It's like what g()()gle does but more malicious, somehow. But it's in the backdrop and few think of it so that makes it okay. Right? It's so convenient, just stop thinking and give all of your information, your ideas, everything you've seen and copy&pasted from the rest of the Internet to some nice de facto state-owned corporation. Nothing wrong can come from it.
GOOD MORNING UKRAINE
>>517324947Based. Measured and proportionated.
>>517343621>CoofI genuinely believe that the masking and isolation did immense damage to zoomers and upcoming gen A due to how they were made to not read social cues. I'd also attribute some modern schooling policy (things like Common Core being a part of it) as being additionally damaging. What is a bit nasty, nasty can of worms these days is the widespread use of LLMs in regards to schools and I don't mean by just the students. Professors and teachers who are lazy hacks and use LLMs to grade + provide feedback to essays written by LLMs. Some real unironic cyberpunk horrors for me right there.I had some personal beliefs that were long ruined about academia being objective institutions in the pursuit of knowledge and merit, but I didn't need to have those long buried beliefs further desecrated by modernality like that. 10/10 Wagner Grave Removal equivalent moment for me with how disgusting academia has become (along with their taint of HR and how that's interwoven with corporatism but oh well personal rantings about the monster that we unleashed upon ourselves societally by overoptimization and optimizing in the wrong directions).Also I don't suppose you and the other Ukrainian anon >>517343758 watch Warlockracy? Interesting Ukrainian and Russian RPG devs and especially feverdream meme tier >Russian Nationalism with that Ukrainian Russophone duo*>Yana Botsman>Dmitry Gordevskyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfLEVnTqIxwI'll just remark I feel that my casual adventures into the weird Russophones and Russian Ultranationalism side of... Eastern European RPG games was an interesting one in gaining a shred of insights on the mentalities of those types.
>>517326281addendum: rusnigger lives are worthless
>>517342522it kind of did happen overnight, more like a few weeks, as ukraine has blown up a lot of zigger refineries so much so it could ruin their war economy. were seeing massive tax hikes and gas shortages in russia as well stopping of gas exports till the end of the year. and these attacks arent stopping theyre only getting worse for russia as ukraine develops its own domestic weapons capable of going far into russia.tactically the russians are a fucking mess and command is almost nonexistant on the donbas front
>>517324947very moderate
>>517327078every last zigger should die gruesomely just like this.
>hungarianDid I miss something? When did Hungary join the partition of Ukraine?
>>517343758>It's more of a "well of course I'm smart and great, if I wasn't then I wouldn't be in power for X years", which then gets put onto "we'll do X and use Y as a cover for it, yes, I'm very smart".Circular logic never fails them and their worshippers, huh. Never mind faking elections through abuse of mechanisms when you're the government. I wonder if there are "voter carousels" in Hungary like there were during Yanukovich.>with their media lying and them buying it up (because that's what they already thought deep inside)That's an interesting nuance because while normally brainwashing is working against people, for katcaps it's basically just a higher power (the state, the tsar, whatever) giving them permission. A Pope's pardon (iндyльгeнцiя), in a way.>This was the time pretty much before paid shills and other crapAh, miss those times. Some things were harder to find than 10 years later but surprisingly easier than now. I'm definitely moving somewhere after the war is over.>during 2008 and their invasion of Georgia it was the final nail in the coffin for any normal views of russia for meFor me it was after the invasion into Ichkeria even though>muslimswas a factor to an extent. I guess the invasion into Moldova was my equivalent of the first wake-up call I've missed.>their "liberal icon martyr Navalny"Oh yeah, I still can't take anything involving him seriously. At least he's definitely not a sandwich now, huh.
>>517330230Why is this guy so happy about foreign migrants invading his homeland? Must be one of those (((rootless cosmopolitans))) who feel safer whenever a country is turned to shit by mass migrations.
>>517344988checkedthey do and they will, and it will be beautiful
>>517344444Nice pents>Emphasis on "coms", mate.Mainlander heritage confirmed on my end and absolutely brainwashed immediate family (post-00s got really bad for them in contrast to how much they hated their commieland childhood). Funny enough I have some family who emmigrated to Hong Kong and I can feel the Hong Kong nationalism from that one member in how immensely he rejects the mainlander heritage. Down the point he virulently rejects "Chinese" on forms and semi-jokingly asked me if he could actually pick the "decline to state" option.>age and commiesI notice that certain Eastern European types, the ones who aren't old enough to have felt Stalinism but were young enough to effectively experience "peak USSR" before it went tits up tend to have highly romanticized views of their childhoods. I see similar problems with Chinese as well: The old ones who lived in pre-Maoist China went through a rollercoaster and "realize" what's up with Xi more often than their own boomer aged children. Meanwhile the boomer Chinese who unironically ate shit under Mao are becoming dementia ridden idiots because of how they are under constant propagandization from Chinese "media" (all state sources) and go "muh high speed rail" and other things the state wants to peddle. They were the very same boomers who bitched about how shit their childhoods were under Mao, how people starved to death and so on but fail to recognize that the >Wolf Warrior China that Xi runs is going the same route.1/2
>>517330639>1758925944100734.pngPoos and Poles. The people who shit in the streets and eat cow feces with the people known for cleaning toilets. A strange match indeed.
>>517344672>watch Warlockracy?I do, I stumbled on his "planet alcatraz" video in April of 2022 while sitting in my Kyiv apartment trying not to go crazy because all of the bullshit I've already had to live through recently and all the bullshit still happening in my life. I knew that game from before and the fucked up crap within it, so it interested me how the fuck one would even attempt to explain and show all that to a western audience. Needless to say, I got hooked on his videos. >I genuinely believe that the masking and isolation did immense damage to zoomers and upcoming gen ABruh, you being very diplomatic here. It was a fuckin' disaster for tons of people, not only limited to gen alpha. The kids got fucked up not only in social stuff, but also with their education. All of that remote bullshit just wasn't working. But even outside kids I know people in the 25-40 y.o. bracket who almost blew their brains out due to lockdowns. E.g. we had this project we were working for a swiss client and from their side the main manager was this guy around 30 y.o., he lived in his own large single family home in Switzerland, and the lockdown had him spend ~1 year at home with his wife and 3 kids - the poor fucker visually aged more than 10 years during that time and also got mentally fucked up. A-la the picrel pipeline. And he had like a 500 sq. m. home. Now imagine families stuck in a 50 sq. m. commieblock apartment with "2 room" (1 bedroom).
>>517344309>What's worse is the algorithmic component.Yes, I've mentioned corporations for a reason. Venture capitalism is in no way the same as the kind of capitalism of growing your herd to sell milk, meat and leather. No fucking way. One has worked for thousands of years and the other has spedrun destroying civilisation in merely 30 years or thereabouts while the (((bankers))) are happily clipping their virtual coins. If only the non-insane Jews (or whatever they should really be called) just killed them off before their destructively mentally ill brethren destroyed the rest of the world.I think the death of creativity both due to diminishing ability (mostly younger users) and unwillingness to contribute to a cesspool (mostly older users; also guilty) is the primary sign of a network going past the point of no return. If it's just slop throwing slop at slop then why bother? It's not even worth consooming.
>>517344547>I don't think tiktok does more damage that discord has already doneSadly it does. The "shorts" user flow literally gets people to freeze into this mindless state of swiping from one video to another. That's bad in itself. And then you add the algorithm on top of it, which instantly locks in and feeds you bullshit.
>>517344624Good health and good fortune to you, my good man. Stay safe.
>>517328609Total ryssä kuolema!TZD!Ah, good morning fellow moderate TZD enjoyers and enthusiast. Hello to the paid brown and beige people. True zigger shills, yousa gona ack today.
>>517336493>Lets say shes proven to be a tranny, what does it change to their lives ?I just think you should really be concerned and displeased over the fact that you are ruled over by Satanic ZOG. Remember when they destroyed Notre Dame cathedral a few years ago? Remember how they made a mockery of the Last Supper during the opening ceremony of the Olympics last year? Clearly this was the doing of the Dark Lord Satan and his "chosen" people.
>>517344988Check out this moderate right here
>>517345152The guy is larping Mengele. Who wouldn't be enjoying it?
>>517344444There is something about that age bracket where if someone is a little too old they fall into the trap of false positive childhood memories and are enthralled by the nostalgia. Meanwhile when they are too young they don't have a reference point as to "absolutely how shitty things were." Like when I talk to most Americans + English speaking younger-than-gen-X Westerners, most of them cannot fathom how insane and shitty things were in Maoist China. I can get their parents/older generations to understand, they are more often instinctively repulsed by commies.2/2>>517344462I'll try to be more supportive and patient instead of feeling tiny bits of despair that someone over 22 needs to say the words "I need help with some adulting things" and somehow never tried to research the subject for a few minutes with casual online searches...>>517344547>DiscordOh I can feel the underhive. For all the flak that online forums get (of which, the *chans are effectively a subset of), Discord allows weird little ideology cults and whatnot to occur all under a "friendly and safe" corporate atmosphere.>tfw so many readily searchable hobbyist forums are dead due to walled gardens like Facebook, Discord, etc having replaced them.>>517345390>DiplomaticThat I am on that subject. On one hand I am called a doomer and on the other I tell the same people I am an optimist. I hope that the (still slow) return from the coof and the forced touching of grass will make people a little less fucked up but I have my doubts (West Coast American, things aren't great here).
>>517345458>>517345458>>517345458LIKEWISE BATTLE BROTHER STAY STRONG. STAY VIGILIANT. STAY ALIVE. HAIL VICTORY. WE WILL TRIUMPH.
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>>517344672>Professors and teachers who are lazy hacks and use LLMs to grade + provide feedback to essays written by LLMs. Some real unironic cyberpunk horrors for me right there.Nightmare fuel. Where are the real people in this? Just getting the salaries and having checkmarks put next to their names in spreadsheets to ensure their attendance is registered? Why bother then? Why waste the government's money? Just homeschool those who accept it and write off the rest as lost causes. Fucking hell.>I had some personal beliefs that were long ruined about academia being objective institutions in the pursuit of knowledge and meritBut they were like that. Even merely 70 years ago they were like that. And if you're willing to go back 98 years ago, it showcased some of the greatest humanity had to offer. It WORKS. We just lost our way.>watch Warlockracy?I used to watch a thing involving video game "bots" until not too long ago but got tired of it. Before that I think I was watching John Bain because he could speak in a way I could appreciate, whether I agreed with him or not. I don't think I've watched anything prior to that. I did have some RSS feeds.
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>>517345621>younger-than-gen-X Westerners, most of them cannot fathom how insane and shitty things were in Maoist ChinaSame thing here with zoomers and soviet shit. When I lore dump soviet shit on friendly zoomers (who trust me implicitly) they are always left fucked up by that. Society fails to show the soviet realities to youngsters despite all the "de-communistation" crap.>feeling tiny bits of despair that someone over 22 needs to say the words "I need help with some adulting things" and somehow never tried to research the subject for a few minutes with casual online searches...I get your point, but for me it's easier due to the fact that had always had to do a ton of "handholding" at work to help colleagues, who should in fact know better and do better, so it's easier for me to handle zoomers and their issues.
>>517345254>the ones who aren't old enough to have felt Stalinism but were young enough to effectively experience "peak USSR" before it went tits up tend to have highly romanticized views of their childhoods.But that's the thing, the "peak USSR" was shit compared to any year past like 1997 here. Any moment of it. They only know of some propagandised version of it, not the real one. The old ones are nostalgic for times when their back didn't hurt (can relate but only on the back didn't hurting part) and when their dick worked (can't relate, still works).Any moment between 1991 and 1997 or so was only worse in some regards because USSR was inherently convoluted, artificial shit that only worked when millions of people played pretend but then it produced disasters every day anyway because it didn't actually work in practice. Everything "not fitting the party line" was swept under a rug through various means. And as the pile grew, the rug eventually fell off and USA had to fly in chicken legs to save USSR from starvation. That's how communism "works": by leading to starvation, with mass shootings and concentration camps on the way. Anyone who doesn't realise this need to actually read history books written by people who actually lived through it.
>>517345390>It was a fuckin' disaster for tons of people, not only limited to gen alpha. The kids got fucked up not only in social stuff, but also with their education. All of that remote bullshit just wasn't working. But even outside kids I know people in the 25-40 y.o. bracket who almost blew their brains out due to lockdowns.This got me thinking, is there a correlation between the baby boomer generation in USA and the Spanish influenza actual pandemic?
>>517345457Ah, I guess I was lucky to never even see victims of that particular thing. In due time that will probably spread to where I am too. Unless I also move physically and not just to different places to talk about things.
Migrated but will reply a bit here>>517345886>AcademiaI feel modern academia is much, much worse than where it was a century ago. I do believe the elitism was double edged, but there are serious institutional problems with the current environment like "publish or die" or how theoretical sciences has become a massive monetary grift rather than being productive.Also the massive co-opting of academia by left wing (and especially massive Soviet simps) in the past didn't help along with the continued overtaking of it.So to put it in a slightly fairer way, I'd say academia has "lost its efficiency" at immense levels in terms of being productive. Furthermore it has become an institution of credentialism upon society by unironic silver spooners (ex: Kamala Harris, see her early life and her parents) who look down on others.
>>517346619I think you are a bit shielded in a way to modernality for your social circle and perhaps local exposure? I talked to a friend who lives in another state that's far more rural than my extremely metropolitian state. He described his state as being effectively 10 years behind the country. Meanwhile I could say mine is 10 years ahead (in a lot of bad ways) and I could feel the huge difference of how brainfucked some of the younger generations are when we compared.
>>517345621>I'll try to be more supportive and patientThis is the right attitude. Great nations are build by individuals doing what needs to be done. It is often thankless and sometimes dangerous.>instead of feeling tiny bits of despair that someone over 22 needs to say the words "I need help with some adulting things" and somehow never tried to research the subject for a few minutes with casual online searches...Look up "learned helplessness". Corporations, with the blessing of indifferent/partly malicious state, did that in this case.>>tfw so many readily searchable hobbyist forums are dead due to walled gardens like Facebook, Discord, etc having replaced them.This is a tragedy that I think of nearly every day. Some are still struggling. Maybe even a few posters can postpone their demise. Worse comes to worst, new ones can be made. You have only lost when you are dead and there is no one else to pick up the torch.
