>Americans know H1B visas take their jobs>But they don't know about the F1/OPT "pre-H1B" pipeline>F1 student graduates gets OPT job at Amazon pays 0% FICA tax>Saves $7,650/year vs American citizen doing same job>Uses tax-free money to buy property Americans can't afford>Tries for H1B lottery while building wealth Americans never seeMost Americans think H1B is the problem. They don't realize F1/OPT is the REAL backdoor that's been open for years.THE PRE-H1B PIPELINE EXPLAINED FOR AMERICANS:1. F1 Student Visa: Foreign student comes to US for college2. OPT Program: Gets 12-36 months to work after graduation (this is the backdoor)3. Tax-Free Work: Pays 0% Social Security/Medicare taxes while Americans pay 7.65%4. Job Competition: Gets same tech jobs but costs employer 7.65% less in taxes5. H1B Pipeline: Tries for H1B visa while already working (advantage over external candidates)6. Property Buying: Uses tax savings to buy homes Americans can't afford7. Wealth Transfer: If H1B fails, returns home with US property assetsTHE NUMBERS THAT MATTER:• F1 OPT workers are exempt from FICA taxes - saves 15.3% total• Indians bought 4,700 homes worth $2.2 billion in US in 2024-25• This represents 6% of all foreign property purchases• Most Americans have ZERO clue this system exists• While you're paying full taxes, they're building property portfoliosLet's break down the math:American Worker $100,000 salary - $7,650 FICA tax = $92,350 take-home Before income taxF1 OPT Worker $100,000 salary - $0 FICA tax = $100,000 take-home Before income taxThat's $7,650 in extra savings per year for the F1 worker.Over 3 years of STEM OPT = $22,950 in tax advantages.Plus the employer saves $7,650 per year too - giving them incentive to hire foreign workers.THE BOTTOM LINE:While Americans are waking up to H1B abuse, they don't realize the REAL scam is the F1/OPT pipeline that gives foreign workers first access to high-paying jobs with massive tax advantages.
>>517326783Sources (because facts matter):• IRS Foreign Student Tax Exemption Rules - https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-student-liability-for-social-security-and-medicare-taxes• OPT Student Tax Guide - https://blog.sprintax.com/opt-student-tax-guide/• Indian Property Purchases in US - https://www.financialexpress.com/business/investing-abroad-indians-among-top-foreign-homebuyers-in-us-defying-h-1b-housing-debate-3921875/• H1B Lottery System - https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/temporary-workers/h-1b-specialty-occupations/h-1b-electronic-registration-processHere's what most Americans don't realize: when they complain about H1B visas taking their jobs, they're missing the fact that many of those H1B recipients first came through the F1/OPT pipeline. This system essentially creates a two-tiered workforce:>American citizens: Pay full taxes, struggle with housing costs, compete for jobs>F1/OPT workers: Get tax breaks, build property portfolios, have inside track to permanent positionsThe H1B controversy is just the tip of the iceberg. The real issue is the F1/OPT system that creates an unfair playing field from day one, giving foreign graduates advantages that American citizens will never have.
>>517326926LOOK AT THEM SCHEMING HOW TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SYSTEM TO SKIRT AROUND TAXEShttps://www.teamblind.com/search/fica
Delet this filthy goy
>>517327103When I post this on YouTube, i ALWAYS get a bunch of Rajeshes and Poojas screaming at me trying to gaslight me.>"But they pay income tax just like everyone else!">Rajesh: "F1 students pay federal and state income taxes just like American citizens, so the system is fair."Rebuttal: American citizens pay income tax AND FICA taxes (7.65% of salary). F1 OPT workers only pay income tax, giving them a 7.65% take-home advantage. This is like saying "we both pay rent, but I don't have to pay utilities" - it's not an equal comparison.>"It's only for 5 years, then they pay like everyone else!">Rajesh: "The tax exemption only lasts 5 years, after which they pay full taxes like everyone else."Rebuttal: 5 years is long enough to save $38,250 in FICA taxes alone (on a $100k salary). That's enough for a 20% down payment on a $191k house. Meanwhile, American citizens are paying full taxes their entire lives and can't save for down payments in VHCOL areas. This argument dismisses the significant financial advantage gained during the most critical wealth-building years (ages 22-27 for most graduates).>"They contribute to the economy and create jobs!">Rajesh: "These workers contribute to the economy, pay rent, buy goods, and help American companies compete globally."Rebuttal: American citizens would contribute the same way if they had those jobs, PLUS they'd be paying into Social Security and Medicare. The current system creates a perverse incentive where companies prefer foreign workers because they're cheaper (employer saves 7.65% too), while Americans are priced out of their own housing markets.>"But they can't collect Social Security later!">Rajesh: "They can't collect Social Security benefits later since they didn't pay in, so it's fair."Rebuttal: True, but they're using that money to build wealth. Americans are forced to pay into a system that may not exist when they retire, while F1 workers get immediate wealth-building opportunities.
>>517326783Good thread anon. Also go here and do this:There are 730,000 foreign H1b workers in the US and they are NOT just tech jobs. NEW /jjg/ thread here:>Indians are running scams to steal jobs from Americans. This is a campaign to expel them from US jobs. Even if you don't need a job, you can help and you may get a cash payout. >End the jeet mafia takeover of the job market today!>>517326418>>517326418>>517326418
>>517327746>"Companies pay more in legal fees for H1B sponsorship">Pooja: "Companies spend thousands on legal fees for H1B applications, so it's not really cheaper."Rebuttal: One-time legal fees ($5k-15k) are dwarfed by annual tax savings ($7,650/year on $100k salary). The company breaks even in 1-2 years and saves money every year after that. Plus, many companies have in-house immigration teams that reduce these costs.>"The tax treaty is reciprocal - Americans get the same benefit abroad!">Pooja: "These are reciprocal tax treaties. Americans working in India get the same benefits."Rebuttal: False equivalence. Few Americans work in India compared to the hundreds of thousands of Indian workers in the US. The scale is completely different, and American workers aren't using these treaties to buy up property in foreign countries and price out local citizens. This argument ignores the massive scale difference and the specific impact on US housing markets.>"But Americans could never fill all these tech roles!">Pooja: "There aren't enough qualified American workers for these specialized roles. Companies need foreign talent to compete."Rebuttal: If there's truly a shortage, companies should pay market rates to attract American talent instead of getting discounted foreign workers. The current system artificially suppresses wages and removes incentives for companies to train American workers or improve STEM education. This argument addresses the core economic rationale, but ignores the policy's negative effects on American workers and wage suppression.>"You're just jealous and racist!">Pooja: "This is just jealousy of successful immigrants. You're targeting Indians specifically."Rebuttal: This isn't about race or nationality, it's about policy that disadvantages American citizens regardless of their background. The data shows Indians are the largest group using this system, but the issue would exist regardless. Facts aren't racist.
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>>517329288The OPT Tax Loophole: How F1 Students Save 15.3% While Americans Pay Full Taxes>be American citizen>pay 6.2% Social Security + 1.45% Medicare = 7.65% FICA tax>F1 visa student on OPT pays 0% FICA tax>gets same job at Amazon, saves $15,300 per year on $100k salary>uses tax savings to buy property in VHCOL area>Americans can't afford down payment because they're paying full taxesThis is the reality of our broken immigration system that nobody talks about.THE FACTS:• F1 visa holders are exempt from FICA taxes (Social Security & Medicare) for their first 5 years in the US• This saves them 15.3% total (7.65% employee + 7.65% employer match)• OPT workers can work for 12-36 months while enjoying this tax exemption• During this time, they're trying for the H1B lottery (65,000 regular + 20,000 master's cap)• Indians bought 4,700 homes worth $2.2 billion in the US in 2024-25• This represents 6% of all foreign property purchasesDISCUSS
Also refugees are a problem, the system is fucked and our govt officials hate us, can't even vote they out of the rigged system go figure, we were warned,Also here is a source for govt benefits /initiatives to hire refugeeshttps://www.tent.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Tent_US-Hiring-Guide_2023_singles_Mar12.pdfHopefully the link is ok, still not sure if protocols for bad linkage
Here's a good video on the OPT scam.H-1B isn’t the only scam.The OPT (Optional Practical Training) program actually gives employers discounts for NOT hiring Americans.https://x.com/NumbersUSA/status/1970898677641453602
Call your congressmen and tell them to support the following bills:-Colleges for the American People (abolish cap-exempt H1B)https://www.cotton.senate.gov/news/press-releases/cotton-introduces-bill-to-end-h-1b-visa-loophole-for-universities- The SAFE Act proposed by Rep Mike Collins (abolish diversity lottery)https://collins.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-mike-collins-reintroduces-security-and-fairness-enhancement-america-act- The Nuclear Family Prioritization Act (abolishes chain migration)https://crane.house.gov/2024/04/02/crane-introduces-legislation-to-restrict-chain-migration-curb-abuse-of-u-s-immigration-system/-Bill to abolish OPT: https://gosar.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=8784-Bill to abolish discretionary EAD: https://gill.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-gill-introduces-domestic-jobs-protection-act
>>517326783The sheer numbers of work visa are ridiculous.
>>517326783>Plus the employer saves $7,650 per year too - giving them incentive to hire foreign workers.The employee pays the tax not the employer dumbass
>>517330591>The employee pays the tax not the employer dumbassNo retard. Both the employee and the employer pay.
>>517330809Well that's fucking stupid>land of the free
The visa numbers are dropping. We need to keep up the pressure.
>>517326783Without immigrants America is doomed
Yeet the jeets
I hate them so much.
>>517331208>Without immigrants America is doomedThat's what the jeets claim.
>>517326783I prefer prison labor
>>517330591Another jeet lying and blowing smoke up my ass.HOW ARE YOU GUYS ALL THE SAME ONLINE, DOESNT MATTER IF I CALL THIS OUT ON YOUTUBE OR 4CHAN, IT IS ALWAYS SOME JEET THAT SPEAKS UPWE NEED TO KEEP FIGHTING, IM GOING TO CALL AND MAIL MY REP
>>517331208Immigration should be completely stopped for everyone except young hot women. Literally. Unironically.
>>517332586Petition to only accept female immigrants from India to exacerbate their demographics problem
>>517326783It's depressing
>>517332818>Petition to only accept female immigrants from India to exacerbate their demographics problemHell no.
>>517333293I meant from India only accept female applicants, all other countries do whatever
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>>517333978It's all so tiring
>>517334423This may as well be our flag in short order
>>517336016You're tired of jews and their schemes.
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>>517337158https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hXo7JUGsCY
>>517336932You're not wrong but the problem is that the US has a huge supply of STEM majors. They get an easy path to a green card with an H1B visa but they are still competing with the American STEM majors for the same jobs
>>517327216WE'RE not going to collect Social Security later either. The Ponzi scheme should collapse by 2030, or will be on a trajectory toward zero benefits to prolong the program as long as possible.
>>517337275>highly educated Indians>hard workers>US gets the cream of the cropNo. No one who has ever worked with an Indian thinks they are highly educated or intelligent, and they certainly do not work hard. In my 20 years in US tech, I have yet to meet a single Indian who was competent at even a basic level. They are always incompetent and lie to cover their incompetence.
>>517326783educational bump
>>517337501>they are still competing with the American STEM majors for the same jobsYes. The H1b visa's need to end completely. The banker jews push for mass immigration and massive Indian worker flood. We're winning the fight though. Keep your morale up and keep fighting.
>>517332586And who's breeding them? We westerners are retarded. We have 1.2 birth rates. We're dead without heaps of immigrants or literally enslaving women tomorrow by abolishing women jobs, abortions, all birth control and divorce
>>517338099They ruin everything they touch. Indian culture is incompatible with Western Civilization.>In India, I have rarely seen someone in authority take the initiative to solve a problem he was responsible for. When I was at university, an underaged boy who worked in the kitchen was raped and sodomized by the janitors. I reported the matter, but not only did no one in authority do what was right — something well within their power — the authorities and fellow students threatened me with severe consequences if I pursued the matter further. Devoid of empathy, they also made fun of the boy and me.>Yes, there is an element of sadism here. There is some degree of pleasure that Indians take in the pain suffered by others. The attitude of the authorities was like that of the high-placed Delhi bureaucrat who told me that his Black Label whiskey tastes so much better because he knows that most Indians can’t afford to drink it.>This confuses Westerners. If they had power, even if they were corrupt, in a situation where there was nothing to gain or lose — no bribes to receive since both parties were poor, and no risk of offending someone well-connected — they would do the right thing and book the alleged rapist. These Indians would do nothing, not even lift a finger, unless there was a reward: money or sex. Their apathy was bottomless.https://www.amren.com/features/2024/12/india-its-worse-than-you-think/https://archive.is/4pP8dhttps://www.dailyo.in/variety/scams-nirav-modi-rotomac-fodder-scam-pnb-22537https://archive.ph/vhPyc
>>517337795Foreigners should ALWAYS pay higher taxes, doesn't matter this philosophical idea of them getting paid out by SS in the future or nothing like that, they are visitors to the US and it is their pleasure in being here. There is a huge demand and it is foolish for the United States to not cash in on this insane demand.What is the most ridiculous in all of this is not only are these pre-H1Bs paying LESS taxes but they are also taking away high paying jobs and gobbling up properties and renting them out to US citizens. Talk about a broken system and the fact they remain so hush-hush about this over the years and the fact that Rajeshes like >>517330591 hiding behind their memeflag just show how much of a hivemind they are.
>>517338610>Indian culture is incompatible with Western Civilization.
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>>517338562>We're dead without heaps of immigrants or literally enslaving women tomorrow by abolishing women jobs, abortions, all birth control and divorceWho do we need a an infinitely increasing population? Just to increase the GDP for bankers?
Canada is having an even worse problem with jeets than the US.
>>517338796KEKKKK
Any older Anons remember the name of the video on youtube that taught companies how to not hire Americans? It was a presentation from 2012 0r 13 I think.
>>517341421>Any older Anons remember the name of the video on youtube that taught companies how to not hire Americans? It was a presentation from 2012 0r 13 I think.Hadn't heard of that. It would be interesting to watch.
>>517326783Have you heard about L1?
I'm going to try and go to this.
>>517343357Make sure to bring up the F1/OPT thing as well, you cannot believe how salty jeets get online whenever I bring this up. It is amazing to see how they ALL think alike and they're ALL in it together. It literally is a giant conspiracy.
>>517344466> It is amazing to see how they ALL think alike and they're ALL in it together. It literally is a giant conspiracy.They work big scams together.
>>517345251Once we shut down these legal pathways, they're going to start illegal immigration. They're already doing it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdgvUiw5yXU
>>517341421>>517342035https://youtu.be/TCbFEgFajGU2007
>>517349058RIP Lou Dobbshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx--jNQYNgA
