The death of Jesus, especially as it’s staged in gore-porn fashion in films like The Passion of the Christ, is nothing but weaponized trauma. The spectacle is engineered to bypass reason, to flood the viewer with horror until their defenses collapse. The endless flaying, the blood, the dragging of a broken body—it’s not about truth, it’s about spectacle. It’s the same psychology as a cult initiation: break the person with shock and suffering, then swoop in with the explanation. The crucifixion isn’t holy, it’s a psychological mugging. You don’t get space to think—you’re ambushed with pity, guilt, and disgust until you’re too disoriented to see the con.And the con is simple. Once you’ve been gutted by the spectacle, the salesman comes in with the pitch: all this suffering was for you. The torture is transformed into a cosmic product you never asked for, but now feel compelled to accept. Before the manipulation, you didn’t need a savior, you didn’t need blood spilled for your sake. But after being force-fed this trauma, you’re tricked into believing there must be a reason, and the reason is handed to you, ready-made: salvation. It’s emotional blackmail dressed as theology, guilt trip as gospel. The cross is not a gift of love—it’s the bait-and-switch of history, turning cruelty into salesmanship and calling it divine truth.
>>517400326Never existed
Christianity is a death cult about venerating being tortured and dying because it happened to jesus. This is why they carry a little instrument of torture on their necks and have fan fiction about how all of jesus' followers also died in horrific ways- it validates the entire concept
>it's cruelty if you don't let me rape kids a swindle peopleDo shlomos really?
Nah it's just about waking everyone up so we can gather the energy to gas these kikes.
>>517400326If it's such a compelling con, how come you are able to see right through it? You aren't affected by it, why is that? Are you enlightened and super smart?Anyway you forgot the big part that happens after crucifixion, Christ gets raised up from the dead, given a spotless divine state of being, ascends into Heaven to live and reign for eternity. If it really is a con act to get people to believe our of pity or reciprocated obligation, then it kinda undermines itself by undoing the death and elevating the dead martyr into divine status, don't you think? Or is that part too inconvenient for you to consider?
>>517400429Imagine not having something or someone in life you love so much you would die for. Grim.
>>517400833Imagine not affirming your own life
Then you realize it's the kikes who did this to him because their rabbis afraid losing power convinced them damning their only messiah to that gruesome death never forget no matter how hard kikes try to spin it, it was them who judged Christ son of God and our lord and saviour over pitiful power play.
Jesus claims to be all-loving, yet he damns everyone who doesn't acknowledge him. He preaches humility, yet demands worship. He says "forgive endlessly" but only offers salvation to those who believe in him. Otherwise eternal torment awaits lol Also he promises grace, but only if you follow his specific rules and doctrines. He speaks of mercy, yet structures the universe so that billions are doomed if they never hear his name. Divine love? No! It's just coercion and threat!
>>517401031Don't need to imagine, I can do both easily. Affirming my life and also being willing to lay it down for those I love. In fact, affirming your own life becomes easier the more you live for others. Because if you live for others, you affirm yourself. Loving others makes it easy to have love for yourself. Egotists who find it all too easy to hate others put on a good show of self love, but if you scratch at it for just a few layers, it crumbles away so easily.
>>517400326it's just torture porn, not about the message of jesus
>>517400326I understand how such a heathen hellish spawn like yourself might sprout such a disgraceful take
>>517400326Jesus wasn't even a real person, dummy>pic related
>AI em dashstopped reading.
>>517400326The Orthodox agree with you, which is why generally gore is not the focal point. That is psychologically manipulative.
>>517401257>yet he damns everyone who doesn't acknowledge him.Yet he did not. The passages that condemn gays, like yourself, are in the Torah, the old testament. Jesus has nothing against you faggots, wrap your head around that
>>517400326>The BTFO’ing of the Christ Is what this movie should be called
>>517401624TIL, thx
>>517400326cry more faggit, nobody will read your rants
>>517401745Nice try but saying "Jesus didn't condemn gays" misses the pointThe issue isn't individual acts of condemnation. It's the system he set up. Belief in him is mandatory for salvation. Reject him? Eternal torment. Not against gays. fine, but against everyone who doesn't follow his rules. That's coercion, that's threat!
>>517400833I would die to save my family or etc, sure. How does this relate to christianity being an objective by the definition of the word death cult wherein being tortured and murdered is glorified, autocastration is promoted by the cult object leader and ritual consumption of his "flesh and blood" is necessary
>>517400326“ In fact, no one can enter a strong man’s house without first tying him up. Then he can plunder the strong man’s house. Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”The Holy Spirit is the symbolic representation of women’s authority, that’s why Jews said it was the devil.
>>517400326The western neighbors learned from it.The eastern neighbors think they’re higher caste or whatever. Which is a better place, india or western european neighborhoods?
Jesus Christ have mercy on Iran and all Iranians in the war against Zionists and Satanists.
>>517402031You better fall in line, heathen asian. Jesus Christ is King, but he is not that benevolent King you think he is. His wrath is tremendous
>>517400326So anyway, I finally figured out it's the brainwashed Adam Green cult making these threads. If you find a person that dedicates his life to just hating something, that person is definitely evil and manipulating you. Hate doesn't empower you, it just feels that way.
>>517400678You have a point about Jesus' ascension after the crucifixion undermining the claim that the gross out porn of every detail of a crucifixion is psychological blackmail, but OP also has a point, which is that depictions like Mel Gibson's border on a snuff film and barely emphasize the resurrection, at least nowhere near as much as the gory details of the torturous execution.Emphasizing Jesus' ministry and resurrection is, frankly, far more important than detailing the manner in which he died, since it ultimately didn't matter how he did, just that he was sacrificed to atone for sin.
>>517402491Oh, I see, so now it's "fall in line or burn" packaged as divine love. And that's exactly my point. Jesus is praised as merciful, yet the system he created is pure coercion. Claiming he is King but terrifying billions into belief is not benevolence. it's control, plain and simple
>>517400404>did Jesus actually existthis is the first big question on the journey to salvationthere are plenty of non-religious, secular, historians that wrote about Jesus' existenceeven Jesus' haters confirm he existed as he's depicted in the Talmud (written in 70ad) as 'boiling in a pot of feces for eternity'we've got non religious historians, haters, the bible, and he's even written about in the quran as a phrophetkeep questioning everything, you'll eventually find Himthe thing that really drew me in was when i tried my hardest to poke holes and disprove 'christcuckery'
>>517402982It is for your own benefit.Also, Mel Gibson is currently filming a sequel about the ressurection, and it seems it'll be as shocking as fuck
>>517400678The resurrection isn’t a miraculous twist—it’s the apex of the con. The crucifixion breaks people down with horror, pain, and guilt until their minds are malleable, then the resurrection is thrust on them as a reward, retroactively sanctifying the very trauma they were forced to endure. It’s pure psychological exploitation: agony engineered to make the audience desperate for meaning, then awe and gratitude manufactured to make them complicit in their own manipulation.The audience is taught to reinterpret horror as holiness, anguish as virtue, and emotional exploitation as divine truth. The resurrection is not proof of anything miraculous; it is the final stage of a multi-step con, turning manufactured suffering into voluntary devotion. The entire system relies on the human mind’s susceptibility to emotional coercion: shock, despair, then payoff. If you honestly think this proves anything other than how expertly people can be manipulated, congratulations—you’re precisely the type of gullible fool the story exists to exploit.The resurrection is a narrative payoff that validates the initial trauma—like a bait-and-switch with a happy ending. It doesn’t erase the manipulation, it completes it: you’ve been wrung out by horror and guilt, and now the story rewards your emotional labor with transcendence. That’s literally the same tactic as any sales trick or cult story—shock, despair, then deliver the “solution” that convinces you it was worth it.
>>517403462Good one, satan
>>517400326>>517400404>>517400429>>517401257>—Only chatGPT uses that shit. Memeflag chatgpt post. Jesus whipped bankers.
>>517402830What Adam Green (the leftist manipulator) will never tell you is pic related. He uses the black and white card to manipulate his audience; Christianity is either 100% true or 100% false. His ultimate goal is to make you hate, and for you to get into the gateway of Paganism which is loaded with leftist satanists. Yet another evil cult leader destroying the young and gullable
>>517400597By worshiping one.You Hasbara Jews LARPing as ethnics pretending to be white retards are the only one here pushing Christianity.>>517404094ChatGPT or JIDF outsourced Indian, what would you rather have?
>>517400326>—>you don't get x—you get y>x is not y—it's znext time, just post the ChatGPT prompt and I can generate the message by myselfit saves space that way
>>517404231>>517402830another brownoid christfag who has been mindfucked by Adam Green
>>517404094What? I only use Papago translator.
>>517405092You again.
Christianity is a brown religion for brown people
>>517400326yawn, you watched some chinese agitprop on youtube and think you are the expert on pedowood tropes.
>>517404231you're a spic
>>517405092>>517405784Same person.
>>517400326It’s just idolatry. You don’t need all of those words. It’s not surprising you have a negative reaction to it since it’s more designed to indulge certain feelings than it is to convert anybody. I thought it was a good film from a contextual perspective but I watched it well after the hype. If you want an example of the historical setting of the crucifixion it’s one of the best.
>>517400429Well, not surprised you react that way either because the crucifix is idolatry. Christ isn’t crucified, he is resurrected. He reigns. We aren’t supposed to actually be preoccupied with His suffering. That too becomes a form of idolatry. Sometimes we can make a god out of Jesus’s suffering, instead of focusing on why He did so in the first place.
>>517400678>>517401165>>517402830>>517403462Rabbi Yeshua celebrated Passover, even though Exodus is ahistorical judeo-supremacist bullshit. Kikes were never enslaved in Egypt or freed by a 'Moses'. Yet Jeebus celebrated Passover as if it actually occured. Shouldn't the all+knowing godman have known he was being retarded?
>>517406974You're crazy. Bye.
>>517406595You worship a kike.
>>517407138Your god is obsessed with dicks, faggot.
>>517400326>The torture is transformed into a cosmic product you never asked for, but now feel compelled to accept. Before the manipulation, you didn’t need a savioreveryone in christ's time understood that they were sinners and needed salvation, and that was not unique to the hebrew religion - christ's message caught on more with the greeks than it did with the jewsthe idea that you don't need a savior is a fundamentally modern lie that contradicts human nature
>>517400326topaion replaced with crucifixreligion of the unelected senatechild sacrifice and pederasty
>>517403217He existed, and he was a faggot like his daddy, because he is his daddy. >>517407396 Or was this just a homoerotic 'phase' god went through?
>>517400326It's actually incredibly accurate. I didn't read the rest because I don't care.>>517400404>>517401512Low IQ
everyone knows what is happening so it's not a con. there is no deceit.you can turn down the offer if you wantin christianity, you can accept the religion's core tenets anytime you want. there's no downsides
>>517408237Why's Yahweh so heckin obsessed with dick? >>517407396
>>517408075its been 2000 years and the jews are still Seething over Jesusyou gotta be able to see the humor of how much Christ trainwrecked them and turned everything upside downimagine had the jews gone uninterrupted for the last 2000 years>>517407396no longer, and even called out the jews being manipulative, and their dick cutting practices>Philippians 3:2>Watch out for those dogs, those evildoers, those mutilators of the flesh.
>>517408439>1 SamuelNot God, just a king's bants.>oh yeah? Do something for me.>like what>lol idk cut a bunch of enemy's foreskins off>Exodus 4Failing to do what he was told.>Genesis 17Entering a covenant.Easy to understand.
>>517407503everyone understood the gang of old men to be degenerate and corrupttoday those same pigs are praised, chains and gallows are glorified, the child-trafficking fugazi janus-faced inverted soter is worshipped
>>517400404Cope
I went to see it with my youth group since crazy Christians were buying out theaters so anyone could go enjoy the film, but I had been smoking pot all day after band festivals so I fell asleep in the theater and at the end it was just like oh wow it over. Good times.
>>517400326>gore-porn fashionIt's a documentary on historical events, you can't leave out the gore and still be accurate.
>>517409405its cathartic fantasy written and directed by a deeply closeted homosexual with extreme sadomasochistic tendies and intense desire for punishment and tragic loss of female acquaintance
>>517409405>historical Virgins don't give birth and the dead stay dead forever. Only the blood of family gives us any kind of immortality. And your god is still a faggot aroused by blood and dicks. >>517407396
>>517408749Yeah, no, that still doesn't explain why the dick-snipping was ever a thing, nigger. Also doesn't explain why he celebrated bullshit Jewish holidays like Passover and fucking Hanukkah.
>>517400326I mean what kind of moron listens to a bunch of dodgy looking foreigners from a land unheard of, babbling nonsense about some crazy space wizard and demanding your submission and subscription to their shadowy "divine authority" ?It's your own fault, Westerners are all sex and alcohol addled dumbasses with no vital instinct, foresight and contemplation, totally blind and vulnerable to stealth attacks from insidious predators like jews, they even made a movie out of this, it's that Rohan kingdom in LOTR, you have thousands and thousands of capable men and you have no problem with foreigners managing and controlling your critically important social and administrative matters !Back to horse riding with you !
>>517409708>extreme sadomasochistic tendies
>>517401512Jesus Christ is a real person, dummy. >pic related
>>517410739Sure thing fag.
>>517401512If Jesus isn't a real person then Judaism, canonized with the babylonian Talmud, in 500ad, is CERTAINLY a load of bullshit. Very antisemetic post.
>>517410904Thanks for the book titles. Got any others? Found most of these on libgen... but always on the lookout for more.
Good point
Proof the Bible is the word of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVI1 Cor. 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntcRomans 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”Jesus Christ is God who has come to earth from heaven in the flesh. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and is now in heaven. John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Romans 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. John 10:28: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Either choose this evil world and be punished along with it, or choose to submit to the will of God and be saved. Your own deeds, no matter how good you think they are, can NEVER justify you. You're corrupt and need to be saved. Romans 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in what HE did for you. Only He can wash away all of your sins with His blood. Salvation is a gift, it can't be earned. Do you choose the righteousness of God or your righteousness? Heaven or hell?Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbPchtYsXNohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS78mFJcvhQ
>>517400326fuck movies I'm waiting for the wide fields just not letting anyone tell me which one to go to, last time i even bothered with a "movie thread" it was that one viking movie that came out where all he does is trip balls and fart with his son and nail some assholes guts to a barn door and you don't even get to see him do that then it goes full fucking skwisgaar skwigelf metalocolypse fantasy on pagan ideas. how much fucking art do you need to consume in your lifetime "or else"? like fuck
>>517410053I mean you didn't ask that.>why was the dick-snipping a thingA covenant thing. Also because they viewed it as cleaner, same as a lot of Americans still do.>why did he celebrate Jewish holidays likeBecause those were the holidays there, same reason anyone growing up in a culture celebrates those festivals. Any excuse to have fun. You should try it sometime.
>>517410053Because it was the practices of the time and the covenant was meant to conform to the people's practices. It's not rocket science. Also convenient to just ignore every time Jesus blatantly called out Jewish leaders for being hypocrites and belonging to the devil.
>>517411518This is crackpot garbage that not even the most degenerate atheist historian holds to
>>517400326But He was pierced through for our transgressions,He was crushed for our iniquities;The chastening for our peace fell upon Him,And by His wounds we are healed.— Isaiah 53:5
>>517400326Barabbas did nothing wrong.
>>517412284He never denounced Judaism as a whole. No god of mine would choose to be squeezed out of jewess' cunt to begin with.
>>517400326oh look two paragraph memeflag antichrist chat gpt anon is back, nice em dashes
>>517403462its literally a bot look at those em dashes ive seen this one before, he almost always types in two paragraphs like his OP post, this is a weird exception
>>517400326>Guilt:^)
>>517412284>It was a style at the timeDamn, i thought universalist morality is universal
I wished this kike would come back so I could kill him twice.
>>517400678The con is to be found in the heretical belief that all those promises were in fact not fulfilled when Jesus died.Basically put, protestants believe that his sacrifice was in vain, because they ignorantly think the OT stories and the NT stories are both active prophecies at the same time.If you believe the promises are fulfilled, then there is peace, there is abundance, there is wealth, and there is harmony.But if you believe they haven't been fulfilled yet, you will live in anger, in fear, in rage, and you will live thinking you're still a sinner who needs to pay the wages of those sins for life or die a sinner and go to hell.The "Calvinist work ethic" comes from that heresy and is the reason that the modern world is hypercompetitive to the point of destruction, for no good deed is holy enough to pay for the sin of existing, and no moment of respite is short enough to avoid hell.A catholic won't even go to hell by default, he would need to commit vices and abuse the privilege of Jesus' fulfillment of prophecy. There are strong incentives not to do that.I don't even particularly believe in the OT or NT stories.The hypocrisy of protestants is obvious, and at least catholics have their head on straight with regards to chronology.
>>517400404The Israeli government, is that you?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ossuary
>>517413973Explain Rabbinic Judaism then if Christianity was already fulfilling the Jews goals. You can't, because just like every other dope on this board, you've been psyopped by the kikes of today to actually buy their horse shit of being a component to Christianity.
>>517415444Shut up you rat kike.Your moshiach ever comes back he is getting sprayed to a cave wall.Drown your head in the dirt and sing hallellujah to your jewish god.
>>517400326Jesus is Truth.Memeflaggots are lies.
>Chatgpt write a scathing critique of Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ
>earliest "historical source for Jesus" is a jew who wrote about him 20+ years after he claims Jesus died. Not a single non-jewish verifiable contemporary source of his life, only "this dead guy on a cross was definitely jesus the son of god, trust the source in the bible goy, jews wanted to kill jesus and you hate the jews like a good boy, so suspend critical analysis and have faith in jewish mythology. Elect leaders to support our greatest ally Israel! Islam is the greatest threat, goy, not christianity!"
>>517415583Dude, you're literally the biggest kike advocator by propagating their lies like a dunce. Not only that, you do it for free.
>>517400326
>>517415708I ever hear you praising that jewish god in front of me I will glue you to a wall christcuck.All that hallelujah hossana bullshit and you are getting fed to the lions like your kike saints.
>>517406974Huh, I never thought about that.Those two things at the same time I mean. Thank you fren.
>>517415872Keep regurgitating your Jewish masters rhetoric, because you can't get enough of guzzling down their semen. The coming of the son of Man will do just fine without you.
>>517400429Even worse, it's a death cult about venerating a jew as a deity.
>>517415444>Explain Rabbinic Judaism then if Christianity was already fulfilling the Jews goals.Explain Mormonism if Christianity was already fulfilling the Christians goals.
>>517416094>Explain why a cult by a conman that doesn't encompass the world like Christianity even heckin existed You guys are really firing on all cylinders
>>517415994>The coming of the son of Man will do just fine without you.Tell your son of man to suck his foreskin out jehovas arse.
>>517416347Nobody cares, keep kvetching and doing your masters bidding, swarthy.
>>517416427So now you racist uh you kike?Not much kristian luv outta this coon.