So an entire generation of men who studied for tech degrees are fucked?
>>517611279they can learn to mine
Just in time for guaranteed employment in the Army son
>>517611279remove the h1b dogshit and it will be fine.
>>517611279They will NEVER look in my widows and beat their meat with glee. There is a reason when someone tells you they work in tech no one will shake their hands witht them and they get the cold shoulder at parties. Sicko fucks. I blame jewish pornography. We used to beat up nerds in school so this sick shit would not happen, It was a wisdom thing not some IQ shit. it knocked the social creepiness right out of them and they all turned out fine until the schools did the no bullying gayness and everyone got a trophy and and A+ every time they farted. Foo foo fairy shit.
AI, cloud, VM's...Basically, SAS, has meant that everything has quickly aggregated into only a few large companies. And everything that would be a non-profit generating necessity to a larger project, instead of being a product of a smaller company is open source.
>>517611279Don't worryIt will get worse before it gets worseAI clankers will replace most of them, in time AI will also replace the burger flipper wagies (who cant be trusted not to spit on the slop burgers)
>>517611279>Computer science went from future proofYour degree was outdated the second you got it
Unironically move to China
>>517611279We're bringing manufacturing back to the states!
USA is so fucked up it undercuts its own citizens with cheaper, foreign labor. Think about that. People born in USA need to compete with the entire world's tech workers. Think about what that means. This isn't a country its market.
>>517611279>So an entire generation of men who studied for tech degrees are fucked?Yes, but we can fix that. There are 730,000 foreign H1b workers in the US and they are NOT just tech jobs. NEW /jjg/ thread here:>Indians are running scams to steal jobs from Americans. This is a campaign to expel them from US jobs. Even if you don't need a job, you can help and you may get a cash payout. >End the jeet mafia takeover of the job market today!>>517604217>>517604217>>517604217
Here's some posts on this very subject
>>517612810>USA is so fucked up it undercuts its own citizens with cheaper, foreign labor. Think about that. People born in USA need to compete with the entire world's tech workers. Think about what that means. This isn't a country its market.
Call your congressmen and tell them to support the following bills:-Colleges for the American People (abolish cap-exempt H1B)https://www.cotton.senate.gov/news/press-releases/cotton-introduces-bill-to-end-h-1b-visa-loophole-for-universities- The SAFE Act proposed by Rep Mike Collins (abolish diversity lottery)https://collins.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-mike-collins-reintroduces-security-and-fairness-enhancement-america-act- The Nuclear Family Prioritization Act (abolishes chain migration)https://crane.house.gov/2024/04/02/crane-introduces-legislation-to-restrict-chain-migration-curb-abuse-of-u-s-immigration-system/-Bill to abolish OPT: https://gosar.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=8784-Bill to abolish discretionary EAD: https://gill.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-gill-introduces-domestic-jobs-protection-act
>>517611279Tech was a fake bubble artificially manufactured to have somewhere for QE money printed fake fiat during the 2010's to be stashed and parked at. Now that inflation from money printing has tapped out and exhausted the entire market, an inflation-fueled melt up is occurring in the dollar and will take the entire fake tech industry bubble with it.
>>517611279This is why I got out ten years ago. The writing was on the wall then.
>>517611279Yeah. The retards were tricked into coding their own replacement.
>>517611279>something is happeningWow, very insightful, Mr Noseberg.
>>517611279Somehow there is no tech work......but every company has a garbage webshit. Countless shit that could be automated. Awful data pipelines. Every appliance has a computer that could be working a lot better. Every game is some unoptimized bloated piece of shit. Every app you download is dogshit. Airplanes are falling out of the sky.But nobody wants to hire programmers. Agile and its consequences have been a disaster for the human eace.
>>517613084Again. Happened with the dotcom bubble, too.
>>517612192The big problem is that you won't need burger flippers because there will be no income to buy burgers, AI made or not.
>>517612448Man, IDPol really did a number on the west, didn’t it
>>517613157See >>517612839
>>517612902unreal. i want this piece of shit to crash the sooner the better. the only way the entrenched elites will be swapped out is some major shit happening
>>517611279kinda. rug pulls like this happen every so often and are cyclic with pushes like "learn to X" where X is whatever (((they))) want to crash the price of labor on. happened to scientists in the 90s, engineers in the 2000s, now to CS/tech.
>>517613157And everything is running on jeet-coded libraries on top of bloated frameworks on top of shitty abstraction layers on top of shitty APIs. Nobody knows what I’m all of them, just that they’re all buggy, bloated, and slow. Patches on top of patches on top of patches.It’s a shit show.
>>517613345Oh, it will happen. Just a matter of when.
>>517611279Only those who didn't study are fucked. Their degrees are worthless now.
>>517611279How is coding or computer technology even a degree anyway? It’s a fucking hobby not a job
The lack of tech jobs is doing more damage to gen Z than anything in recent history. The remote six figure tech job is the holy grail, the carrot on a stick, the ONE thing young men are possibly willing to slave away decades for. Killing off the comfy coding career is like cornering a starving animal and poking it with a stick.
>>517612810It's even worse. STEM-OPT, brainchild of the bloody benchod bastard Dubya Bush gives employers a discount for hiring foreign grads to usually entry level positions over American citizens with the same degree.Then again, America hates science, hates scientists, and wants them making dogshit wages as research coolies.
AI making even the IT sector ultimately obsolete.They want us all in a pod on UBI. You got that yet?
>>517611279High rates have destroyed the economy and prevented businesses from growing. Don't need IT people if you aren't growing.
>>517613863Really. I went to school for that but basically the only classes that mattered were the mathematics. I should have gone for a math major with dual minors in cs and stats.
>>517614165>They want us all in a pod on UBIclose but not quite.they want us all in a pod under 6 feet of dirt.
it's AIactually indians
>>517614508Being a UBI neet in a 20 square meters or so goy pod crammed in as sardines in a "smart" city may as well be just like being under 6 feet of dirt.
>>517611540
a class war is taking place and the establishment wants to direct your attention to a manufactured "culture war" and the blackmailed/financed talking-heads provided to youaka faggots for the establishment, curated/astroturfed so faggots in the pocket of the state can manufacture and steer narratives amidst bot legionsforced immigration to keep their debt slave system functional while funding the other hand to demonize/misdirect contempt*a pretext to further erode civil libertiesso focus on the gossip, hysterics and the finger pointing while their paymasters loot and poison the nation to ensure a future where (You) will own nothing and be happy
>>517613157>Agile and its consequencesThis, I fucking hate it.>meetings every fucking day>for some reason, every goddamn dev and even QA bitches MUST attend>"Ceremony" meetings on top>again, compulsory attendance for everyone>one week left in the sprint, everyone is behind AGAIN>we must have more meetings to address this>after a year or two of this decline, it's decided an overhaul is needed>split team in two, add a new layer of management for the managers of the split teams to answer to>add more meetings to suit thisI give it a year before opening your IDE is a sackable offense.
>>517613892I see a bunch of rich remote tech job workers on youtube like codingjesus and wonder if that’s no longer possible to get
>>517611279>sorry, we fucked up, all an accident, believe us goys. i mean guys. i meant to say guys!
>>517611279Good. Everyone must suffer.
>>517615015Then the same bourgeoisie merchant class faggots will shill UBI and smart cities as the solution. Communitarianism without the community and homogeneity. The "community will just be a gray mass of deracinated, miscegenated and probably to an even higher degree than now also sex dysphoric neets.
Basically LLM models can code now. They only suck because the code is “inefficient” and LLMs can’t understand context shift.No greedy company is going to hire new grads despite the fact that they need junior engineers to get senior engineers
>>517611279AI and H1Bs are the reason.
>>517611279Q predicted this
>>517613991This is rough. USA basically switched from nation model to commerce center. we all got sold out. i have this fucking country now
>>517611279>graduate high school back in 2015>get unsolicited advice from everyone to go into CS>family, friends, even distant relatives that I had just met for the first time told me this >don’t know programming but have good math skills>go into actuarial mathematics instead>have boring job, but managed to completely miss the pajeet diarrhea storm>laugh quietly at the naysayers that are losing their jobs in California
>>517611279Seriously fucked. Hard. AI is going to take a lot of jobs and it's going to be rough. And you welders and plumbers? You'll last a bit longer, but they're working their asses off researching robot replacements for you. That's not all, either. In 15 or 20 years there will be AI Super Intelligences that will control the planet. Then, even the rich guys will be in trouble.
>>517611279Learn AI, create SaaS, charge $20 a month, make it really confusing to cancel subscription, get rich, become neet
>>517616079I studied liberal arts but learned software engineering quickly since I am white and doing that over a decade. I am glad I did what I really loved in school when everyone said it was worthless and could potentially fall back on it
You've had 12 years to read the writing on the wall. Half of the culture war shit came from the tech space.
>>517616283I did something similar: I minored in physics because it was my program before I realized that I’d need a PhD to make money. Fortunately, I don’t even really dislike my job. I just sit around for half of the day, desu.
>>517616381Was this when it all turned?
>>517616381Have people in the Bay Area always been prone to faggotry?
>>517611911>We used to beat up nerdsTry that with me, faggot. I'm a nerd and I do MMA. I would fucking destroy you. I bet you couldn't even beat your own dick.
>>517616381But White men can't to tech they said...
>>517616202AI is a bubble and once it pops and tanks US tech stocks 80% around half of currently employed people in tech will get fired. Nvidia might go bankrupt. AI isn't replacing a single fucking job, not even translation and customer support.
This was the point of no return
>>517611279yep, you get to compete with h1b’ssorry no refunds
>>517612341true>>517611279government employees stance is that anyone can do "i.t."same stands with other private-public partnership entities even the most retarded of them all - worked in service/finance industry and has taken one semester course in "i.t." = qualifiedpaper is just a formality and economic opportunity for education sectorif you are interested in 'digital apps' field with a goal to work for someone that might pay you money you dream of then pursue 'digital apps' field as a hobby and self-improvement exercise you can get books from the internetyou can get rough (and precise) about learning steps from basic to advanced as well from the internettoo many opporunists looking for easy money got into itquality of average "i.t." employee as the same and even worse than currently retarded open source llms you can download for free and setup rather quickly
>>517617772>as the sameis the same>>517617445heh
>>517617445tell them
>>517617397>But White men can't to tech they said...
>>517611279Tech degrees mean almost nothing, people who learn what they need when they need it succeed better. If you really want to do a real computer science degree, do computer engineering instead or electrical engineering. Mechatronics or automation is good if you can grt it cheap, but a lot of the older guys won't hire based on the name alone.
Computer science was a scam degree. It was just every 101 level programming course and some other nonsense like 'welcome to powerpoint'
>>517617772Whites and jeets are not interchangeable workers.
>>517612899how did the education system favor girls in the 1980s? what specific changes?
>>517611279Tradies win again
>>517617998>Tech degrees mean almost nothing, people who learn what they need when they need it succeed better. If you really want to do a real computer science degree, do computer engineering instead or electrical engineering. Mechatronics or automation is good if you can grt it cheap, but a lot of the older guys won't hire based on the name alone.This. When I hire in the tech industry, I want a self directed learner with an intense curiosity. I don't give a shit about a degree. I want someone with knowledge in their head, but I don't care how they got it there. Especially with jeet fake degrees and US DEI degree mills. All big tech companies have dropped the degree requirement.
>>517618509Serious question why is a jobless NEET larping as a anti white collar trade worker?
>>517618569I'm definitely in the trades. I'm a divorced alcoholic. Do you need more proof?
>>517618660Yes
>>517618715Ok I'm going to demo your house tonight while you're sleeping and leave the bill on your night stand
>>517612810Enjoy the global empire you've created
>>517618811ok cool you are a larping NEET. I will never understand why you NEETs do this.
>>517611279Yup Jew universities stole your money , and took away your future at the same time. Jews had this planned for decades , they knew what AI would mean , Jews telling white men , fuck off starve to death while what few jobs are left go to low IQ niggers and poos. It’s time to start killing Jews
>>517618895I've renovated more houses then women you've slept with. Which isn't a huge number, but it's still noteworthy
>>517611279No, but the venture capital is almost gone, the poor overhiring practices that persisted through Covid are correcting, and AI is replacing useless “women in tech” jobs that functioned as adult day care. This is just a self correction - same shit happened in during the first Tech bubble burst in 2000-2002. Just bunker down while the JEETS flooding the job market are deported and skill-up
>>517619029>I've renovated more houseslegos don't count NEET
>>517616202>Super intelligenceLLMs will not produce AGI or ASI, they’re borderline retarded slot machines. We’re already seeing them hit their scaling limits. A bubble is about to pop, which will drop the market at least 10%, which will accelerate interest rate reductions, which will slowly encourage growth, and we’ll back to some kind of normal.
>>517611279I have a sneaky suspicion that what's happening is that all these companies are wasting a lot of money on the AI FOMOthey have less money to hire new peoplethey dump the extra workload on their seniorsthey force those seniors to use AI and explain how well they are integrating AIproductivity in software development has always been hard to measure. now you have people, delusional or not, pressed into justifying their existence to a company threatening to fire them. they obviously make up whatever bullshit makes them and their stupid bosses look good. AI is such a productivity boost!that feeds the AI FOMOon and on and onwe'll seeI'm not too worried
>>517618852>you
>>517618852Jews created it American citizens have no voice / vote in the US
>>517613809What degrees if they did'nt study in the first place?
>>517618660Why are all glowniggers on 4chan alcoholics and ex-cons?
>>517611540Trump literally could have used the military to gain huge recruitment from all the jobless graduates and all he’d need to do is offer better veteran loans, literally that’s all and zoomers would have eaten that shit.
>>517619087I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Galivanted piping completely corroded on 100 year old homes. PEX connected into copper with sharkbite fittings. Knob and tube wiring spliced into romex without junction boxes. Sheakrock built out of beaverboard with troweled on asbestos embedded in plaster. Battles with rebar inspectors on the shores on orion. All these things will be lost.... like my torx screw bit in the rain
>>517616030It's not even hard to solve. Kill OPT, or force employers to pay the same payroll taxes they'd have to pay for an American. Reduce H1B slots, make a bidding system instead of a lottery.I think STEM-OPT and its distortion of the entry level market for science, engineering, and tech jobs is particularly pernicious. It would be one thing if H-1B was used to "we have a mid-career overseas guy we like and want to bring over", but STEM-OPT fundamentally screws American kids out of that all-important first job.
>>517611279Can't Compete with the Jeet
>>517616263SaaS of what? I have a SaaS app and it's basically impossible to break $1k. Nobody wants to spend a single dollar right now
>>517611279FUD to keep dissuading people from seeking higher education or self-learning. Most graduates are finding jobs but it is tougher when companies are allowed to abuse globalist hiring practices. There is no con to becoming more capable more skilled and valuable. Keep learning and seeking higher status
>>517619382Cool what else did you build in minecraft NEET?
>>517615046Agile was the nail in the damned coffin lid for me. Fuck you, I’m out.
>>517619464Are you triggered little codey? Your fake computer job got outsourced to jeets and AI? Are you gonna cry?Buckle up because it gets worse
>>517611279I own an occupational therapy clinic in the US, specializing in obesity-related health problems. I have the most job security of anyone on earth.
>>517611279the computer science fad really attracted the most normalfag retards lmfaoimagine thinking you need to pay tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars to learn how to code, when there's an entire wealth of information out on the internet that can teach you the exact same information for free, and any thirdworlder can access it.real STEM chads learn EE, only aspiring lazy techbros looking to get on the hype train when for CS.
>>517619438I doubt this will be fixed, because educated white people are the one of the few white demographic that isn't Republican, and they're kinda resented by the Republican base as a result. Why do anything good for STEMlords, since odds are that STEMlord votes D?
>>517619628Kek, get rekt by ozempic
>>517611279Don't worry at least they can all still get on the internet at the library when they are homeless and still be smug, haughty candy asses. Fuck them.
>>517619121You won’t see a mere 10% drop with any narrative AI capex won’t something like 4x returns YoY. The forward guidance being given is absolutely delusional levels and the extreme hype has to be fed
>>517619584>NEET is so mad that others work he is actually involving himself in kike blue collar vs white collar divides that he has no skin in the gameand this is why I know you are a NEET. A happily employed person wouldn't act like this
>>517615015it's so funny how polfags fall into this mind trap as easily as normies, while thinking they're above normies. classic narcissistic programming.
>>517619632even some meme SWE degree is more useful than CS at this point kek
>>517613863In the first two years I worked my job I increased their monthly revenue by double my annual salary.Doesn’t that sound like a job?
>>517619906Just a heads up we typically don't capitalize "NEET" like you're doing. A+ for effort though you'll get the hang of it eventually
>>517614766but why waste recources and time doing all that?
>>517611279I mean Elon himself said he prefers jeets. What do you think Microsoft is doing for W11 updates to constantly wreck PCs
>>517611279>nerds are actually dumber than people ever realized and deserved all the bullying.I come here for these shocking revelations.
>>517620107NEET is an acronym of course you capitalize it. LMAO this is why you are a jobless loser.
>>517619447the entire market is saturated, it's not the 90s anymore. any app you can think of already exists in some way or another and it if doesn't it will be cloned in less than a month by a jeet in mumbai. So at some point it's down to marketing power, trying to 1 up competitors by offering more for less money.
>>517620299>LMAO Yeah we usually don't capitalize that one either. I thought you'd appreciate the advice so you can pretend to be real better in other threads. Obviously it's too late for this one but you can work on your technique if you try harder
>>517619162You were complicit while it benefitted you and now that things are taking a turn for the worse you have to learn to live with the consequences
>>517620294>4chan dweeb larping as alphaLmao
>>517620371I have good marketing game. 20k followers on Twitter and LinkedIn. Maybe I just need to spam my link more
>>517620419Do you even have a plan for when your parents die and you have to take care of yourself?
>>517619964yep, specialized cybersecurity/data SWE graduates is doing and will always do just fine. general CS grads are the ones eating shit. which is very much deserved, because if you graduate with a regular CS degree it shows that you're a normalfag who was just there to jump on the COVID techboom hypetrain.right now the new normie hypetrain is AI. it will crash soon, AI is nowhere near as profitable as the amount of investment money it has attracted over the years. if you're a HS senior reading this, and you're interested in a stable big tech job: go for EE. you will NEVER go wrong with EE. there's so many eternally valuable industries you can specialize into with EE: semicon, infocomm, drone/robotics, datagrids etc. hell even general powergrids is good enough.
>people from my high school class go to study CS/CE>I decide on electronics>hate myself for choosing that because I could've earned more money if I went for CS/CE>AI hits>See my old schoolmates complaining about difficult job marketI mean I guess they've made a lot more money than I did in the few years prior but I hate my bad decisions less than I did before.
>>517611279>spend life mostly in states of severe anxiety and/or depression>see no hope>drink beer and use drugs to cope, work minimum wage jobs>finally decide I want to change>learn2code>study my ass off>hey I'm actually good at this>first time in a long time that I feel that working hard pays off>try to get into job market and it's all overwhelmed by jeets and chinamen with zero connection to our culture or country. Here for a free meal ticket and to send money back homeIt's honestly sad at this point. The "American Dream" is dead. It's now the Indian Dream and big tech doesn't care how many of us die or end up homeless.
>>517611279That's what you get for being a slave. NEXT!
>>517620519we can make it about you now zodak
>>517611553But muh brain drain
>>517619447SaaS of your ass
>>517618158dont know about you but here in this place they often are
>>517611279Programming isn't tech. Programming is language arts. Electronics engineering is tech. If you're not using a soldering iron, solder wick, flux, etc when you work, you're not working in tech.
>>517612448>china>need power>build plant>US >need power>spend 20 years figuring out the best way to kill the local populace>never build anythingBasically. China just kills people. America only thinks about it.This is in terms of power plants only obviously America kills people with factories and other shit
>>517611911>Tech WorkersYou mean Jews?
>>517620746I'd tell you to start a business but you have to deal with the boomer who thought it was OK to give Jeets Gas stations.Enjoy picking lettuce once you get rid of all your Mexican allies.
>>517611540lol
>>517611553H1B kills jobs in by allowing corporations to import slaves. 50% less taxes on income earned outside the US kills jobs by making it financially lucrative to ship all the jobs overseas. We're being attacked on both ends by jewish shareholders. The Chrysler V Ford decision is the worst court precedent ever established in this history of this nation. Companies should only be allowed to operate in this nation if they benefit the people of this nation, not just shareholders.
>>517619632The problem is that your resume has to go through Karen (or whatever diversity hire is in charge of screening resumes) to get into the big tech companies. No degree? Straight into the trash. Unless you've made a successful startup that has generated billions in funding, your only hope is a small company that hires 2 people every 5 years.
>>517620890nobody with an electronics degree is soldering anything professionally.
>>517620746Yeah the so called free marketLmao this country will die for one simple fact, Americans come from people who fled their country because of persecution, and so when we are persecuted in our own country we will leave and they will try to cope by taking in the worst competing jeets and bugs and Africans and become a shithole
>>517611279>China invests in IT workers and developers. Teaches them all manner of skills. Now responsible for the worlds foremost serious hacks with their homegrown Infosec OPs.>USA undercuts and screws it's own IT people. Replaces them with gutless, half-wit pajeets who flee at the first sign of trouble or crumble under the first signs of duress.>2035 - China brings down what's left of crumbling pajeetiffied US infrastructure in one fell swoop with typical genius coordinated IT hack. Street lights are out, communications are down everywhere, people are dying in what remains of overpriced hospitals. "Impressive" US military crippled without firing a shot.Where will you be when China wins?
>>517611279reevaluation of labor.the deal changed, you cost too much, work for cheaper or someone or something will do it anyways.
>>517611279“Something happening” is management got together to depress tech wages that they saw as overinflated. Tech workers need to unionize or they’ll all be fucked in the long term.
>>517621466America is all about making people at the top richer no matter if you displace the native population in the process. The rich don't have allegiance to any country, they only care about power, control and money.
>>517619669I think you overestimate the self discipline of Americans, anon. My only fear is that rfk actually makes America healthy again. I’ll retire in 15 more years, though. I’m not worried.
>>517618123>Computer science was a scam degree. It was just every 101 level programming course and some other nonsense like 'welcome to powerpoint'If didn't used to be, but that's what it turned into.
>>517621163i'm not talking about degrees lol. due to education creep from fake college mills and DEI admissions, degrees are basically a musthave no matter what in today's world, since they have become so easy to get. i'm talking about the TYPE of degree. and CS has always just been a shit degree in general. it's just that 2010's big tech boom, compounded with 2020's COVID boom (because everyone was stuck online at home), GROSSLY overinflated CS degrees' value. now that the value of CS degrees are finally regressing back into its proper mean, the normalfags who jumped on the hypetrain are complaining.if you have no degrees or can't get one, and you're still passionate about coding, your best bet is the indie gaming market at this point. make an indie game and pray to your God(s) that it can be the next Undertale or Stardew Valley or Hollow Knight. the indie vidya scene is thriving right now so good luck.>>517620695what's your spec?
>>517620587I make more money then both of my parents though?
>>517621554not happening anytime soon. techies are too awkward to do that. They are the kind of people who will tolerate abuse as long as they get to keep their jobs, seen it many times.
>>517620746Literally just learn a trade Oh right everyone that wanted to "learn to code" has never even picked up a screw driver before
>>517612003you still need skilled techs to configure and maintain that incredibly myopic slice of what an enterprise IT environment is actually comprised of. fire the foreigners and hire americans again.
>>517621339Yes you are. That's how you build board prototypes.You actually have to build them and test them before finalizing the production model.
Big Tech is simply mass importing jeets with fake certs. The commies will say it's WAGE SUPPRESSION (it is, but it's not like any of these commie politicians run on strong borders positions) while the smart know it's DEMOGRAPHIC WARFARE big tech jews are waging. In any case, no politician is standing up against it. they're all bottom buttboys for Microsoft & Apple & Google & Oracle
>>517621938Everyone in the standard trades is burnt out and their bodies are rekt by the time they are 40. I'll find another niche in tech/IT before I ever put myself in a trades job.
>>517621862>techiesAbout as obvious as do the needful
>>517622240You're gonna need surgery to correct your spine from hunching over a computer all day. You'll get get carpel tunnel, you'll lose your eye sight from staring at your screen, and lose your hair from being indoors all the time and getting no vitamin D. Kek, we'll both be in chronic pain but at least I'll look like a man
>>517611279yes
Don’t they fire all those kids after they make the fancy service for them every year
>>517622144no you are not. anyone working professionally as an electronics engineer for a big corporation is doing mostly software before things go to manufacturing and on some occasions they have wagies doing hand soldering. unless you are working for a very small startup doing very early prototyping you will never have to manually solder anything.
>>517622599You’re brown
>>517616263>get your ass sued>pay 10% of all your earningsYou're onto something there, chum
>>517611279Is it surprising? I went to an elite school (top 5 globally) and like 70% of the student body was studying Computer Science or something Computer Science adjacent . I promise you, even at a top-end instution that more than half of the CS undergrads were absolutely, completely, fucking useless and relied utterly on others to assist them with their problem sets. These are people you would NEVER want to work with you and this is supposed to be the cream of the crop.Now think, you have 30 years of people pushing CS down the throat of multiple generations to the point that its reached get-rich-quick scheme levels of delusion... do you REALLY think that they all should get jobs? Honestly, not even half of them should have jobs. So yes, an entire generation is fucked, as they should be. Even further, we should have been fucked WAY sooner. This gravy train has been sailing for far too fucking long.
>>517622702>put random jeets name on the app>hide behind 7 proxiesall the monies
>>517611279Yeah, Indians took all the tech jobs and hire only other Indians and we can’t do anything about it
>>517611279Yes. I graduated with a CS degree last year and was unable to get a permanent tech job of any kind. I'm a mailman now.
>>517618509no we don'tour market is about to get flooded, our "skills" are just that we lift shit (bad for women) and remember which wires go where (bad for jeets)ask any old timer, their pay rate didn't keep up with inflation one bit.
Computer science hasn't been a secure field since the 80's, mongoloids.
>>517613892And he did close his eyes. He closed his eyes and he turned his head and he raised one hand to fend away what could not be fended away. Everything struck him all at once and it entered his skill more reliably than any though. Everything that the zoomer had ever known or thought or loved drained slowly down the wall behind him. His mother's face, his first day at school, the girls he had known and failed to win. The faces of the men who laid claim before he arrived and decided long before his arrival that he would die. His own body briefly like a flash, a child dead in a roadside ravine in a country he did not recognize. He lay half headless on the road with his arms outflung like a woman raped with most of his right hand missing as well as his skull. The world rose and picked up the empty casing off the rug and blew into it and put it in his pocket and looked at his watch. Everything was on time. No amount of bravado could undo what was destined to arrive.
>>517621807>what's your spec?Fibre optic cable related. It doesn't matter at this point since I have a decade of professional experience in some other stuff(unusual kind so easily trackable if I tell you what it is) by now.
>>517612902/threadWe allowed ourselves to get replaced
>>517617248Have you ever been in a street fight in real life, and if so how did it go? Did you win or was it a “pocket full of spaghetti” sperg moment? I question people who started fighting later in life’s adrenaline control. This may be something that’s easier to learn as a young child, such as a second language. A normal kid who went to a somewhat tough school will spent countless hours play fighting and sparring with his friends in addition to more serious fights with his enemies. Recess, evenings, weekends. It becomes ingrained and instinctual. While you were playing video games and magic the gathering Pokémon cards. Can you really make up for this as an adult working a couple hours at the gym a week after working 50 hours writing code, amongst all the responsibilities and things you have going on as an adult? To me MMA nerds like this just seem to be using it as cope for the fact that they feel scared to walk around by themself at night in the city.
>>517611279>Everyone said "learn to code"Sounds like a field of work thats about to become oversaturated. And it did, with trannies and indians. Same thing with other go-to fields of work like Welding and Trucking. Except I've never seen a pajeet welder (nor do I want to)
>>517611279>So an entire generation of men who studied for tech degrees are fucked?Programming is easy as fucking balls when you start to learn about it.The strength and the majority of the job these faggots do or were hired and paid huge portions of money was to merely debug HUGE swathes of lines that could take hours of the day to go through when you are running a massive company. But why do you need these retards anymore when AI can both code and immediately detect errors in mere seconds?
>>517612944>Call your congressmenLol ... lmao.
>>517622777The whole industry is filled with people cosplaying as programmers or being legit interested/good at it. Some of the people I've talked to who have jobs in the industry seem absolutely clueless as to how anything works. It's mind boggling they even got their jobs.
>>517611279>eliminate manufacturing>import day laborers>sell out your country to designated codeshitters>why are there no jobs?!
>>517615046I don't understand anything you wrote, which makes me glad I run my own business
>>517613345>>517613722except, it won't.
>>517611279Not really, lately alot of recruitment agencies started asking for degrees instead of experience for some reason. I've been offered two different job offers with AI trainning due to my useless degree in IT this week.
>>517612810USA is a "nation of immigrants" so your own children are competitors to the real Americans, people in other countries.
>>517615046>>meetings every fucking dayI hate this. I want to DO my fucking job not talk about it.
>>517611279Of course, no refunds. Hope you don’t have any debt or expenses. Maybe you can become a plumber or something quick?
>>517611279kike jews, curryniggers, and cunt fagtifa HR bitches really fucked American tech industry. The worst is jeetniggers who dumbed down the entire industry. In the 90s they were studying Excel macros and memorizing idiomatic english phrases like "how's hanging my dude?" At some point these niggers figured out how to take over US companies. If they could take over HR and management, they could take over the entire industry. Because in the HR, job title and authority is based on number of reports not skill or anything else. Therefore, because jeets are like cockroaches, all they had to do was get the majority of the seats at a company. Then when they have a management job, fire everyone else and hire more cockroaches. Finally, now they have replaced HR cunts and recruiters with shit smelling jeet bitches and during covid they all started working from the shithole India they came from, which is why when the $100k fee came out there were hundreds of thousands of them trying to get back to the United States. Only the jew could screw America this bad that it is embarrassed by these third world slumdog nigger shitlords who should never have been allowed to set foot in the western world.
>>517611279Why don't you get together and make new companies? People are tried of the handful we are forced to use.
>>517612810everything is downstream from the stonk market
>>517624012>USA is a "nation of immigrants"USA is not a nation of immigrants. It is a nation of conquerers, pioneers, and heroes. When white europeans arrived there were no cities, no roads, no anything except a few savages who had not invented the wheel. Horses did not even exist and tribes were meat eating cannibals.
>>517611540This sorry boys you’re going to have to die for Israel instead.
>>517620746You are wrong, big tech does care how many of us die, they want it to be 100% and they are intensely invested in reaching that number.
>>517624347Because a company without capital won't make it
>>517611279Employed ce (computer engineering) chad who hires people, here is my wisdom1.) CS is a meme degree always has been. You need a hardware component in there somewhere because you know, actual products are made from hardware. Most CS grads dont even take basic electrical theory so unless you are making an app or some service to process who amounts of data you were always fucked. You dont need college to learn cosr you need it to learn the relationship between code, hardware, and electrical systems2.) Cs was oversaturated even a decade ago. My graduating class of CE was 8 dudes including myself while there were like over 200 cs grads. I knew from the get go they were gonna have a hard time3.) The new crop of cs nerds suck and are poisoned by unrealistic expectations. No im not going to hire you for 100k plus if you have literally 0 work experience, we need guys that know how to design a product from scratch and get it to market. Fucking around with the latest python extension doesn't help4.) Cs is really just a shit degree path you learn so much asinine theory that hasn't been relevant in the field for decades. Professors are mostly to blame for this because they also didnt work in industryIf you want to make money in tech do computer engineering and learn how to program processors and micro controllers. You can learn it on your own and get a degree to learn the more complex aspects of systems/hardware engineering. For every 100 cs applicants i get i get maybe 2 viable computer engineers
>>517611279Yep, all because greedy tech companies want to hire jeets instead of investing in the future of American youth. Thank God I’ve got my comfy tech job now. Good luck zoomers!
>>517625752Also forgot to mention that most cs grads are sweaty nerds who won't work with their hands. GROSS. Learn some fucking social skills and how to solder maybe before you beg for a job. They also tend to have really terrible problem solving skills cause "there is a module for that" while computer engineers have to make everything from scratch all the time. Writing firmware means setting up your hardware environment, IDE, and your own testing tools. Want to export a file from a processor? Better make a tool for that. CS grads really lack this skill and mostly skate by college cause they are techy but no one and I mean NO ONE cares that you can write a binary tree search algorithm it's just not relevant
>>517623617This is also a huge problemGoing to school to learn coding is one of the dumbest things you can do because it's free to learn and you can set up all your python environments easily on a computer from 2014. You go to college to learn how to integrate code with real hardware systems (programming) because they are much harder to set up and usually require specialized equipment and expertise that isn't as commonly available CE >>>>>>>> CS
>>517612810>This isn't a country its market.You have discovered that America is an economic zone, not a country.
>>517611279>>517611437>they can learn to mine>article cropped to hide it's from chink and durka controlled apefrica where miningthey crop the source out because they have to
>be interested in tech enough to get a comp. sci degree>be totally unaware that AI is the goal of computing, and steady progress is being made toward a workable AII don't get it. Did all these guys think their coding skills would be invaluable forever?
>>517611279test
>>517611279Tech was making white guys rich and they were donating to Ron Paul.That's all you need to know.You think there isn't a war against you and your political preferences.
>>517628105Thats why you need a hardware component in your degree. AI can code but it cant put logic probes into a malfunctioning board or solder a 1/2mm pitch
>>517612899Fortunately I’m an ant and so I can read all that with ease.
chat why does every article now have the source cropped out and when you look it's some garbage and all the replies pretend not to care like it's just bots lending aatrturf credence to the garbage meme?
>>517629208bump
>>517630371bump. bots stop posting when they need to !!!shut it down!!!
>>517611279The industry has been in an investor bubble for almost two decades. Software has had some of the largest ROI since quantitative easing became a thing, which drove massive amounts of money into it - which is why all these fags could afford the hordes of useless marketing cunts. Now, ROI is crashing and, between AI and third world competition, the jobs market is in the shitter.
>>517611279LEARN TO JEW!
If there's anything I learned through stocks, it's that if something has become popular and common knowledge it's already way too late and a bad idea. That applies to popular stocks and ETFs and it goes for degrees and careers as well
Greedy and lazy Americans cannot compete.
>>517611279Pretty much
>>517611279Yep!And many of them will become violent. Just watch. College during the last 30 years has been one of the biggest scams in history. Two generations have literally been farmed for the sake of creating more debt to help prop up the already dead capitalist system. All for the sake of buying time and kicking the can down the road. This was never going to solve anything because we all know how the math works. We need justice.
>>517625752>>517625998I guarantee your code is utterly asinine boring garbage, and you, right now, have absolutely no idea how to actually write a compiler, though you think you do, despite working embedded every moment of every day of your life.I also know that tomorrow, you are finally going to learn how, Raymond.
>>517635507>all those wordsJust say Socialism. That's what this was. This is what always happens.
>>517625752Agree that many CS degrees are memes today but Computer Science strictly speaking is not a meme. Computer Science != web shit. Granted that's what many of these programs have devolved into so understandably many people conflate the two.Computer science strictly speaking includes computer architecture and hardware. Not at the level of a CE/EE, but more than enough to work in systems, firmware/embedded, program microcontrollers, performance optimization, etc. These types of software engineers tend to be the best because they can bridge the hardware-software gap while also having the higher-level theory and software engineering knowledge required to actually build and deliver secure and maintainable software. CEs/EEs who learned how to program tend to not be very good at the software engineering part of software.A CS degree from a highly ranked school is still a good choice. Agree that more bias towards hardware is beneficial (e.g. taking more systems and embedded electives) and staying away from any webshit.
>>517613345>>517613722Two more weeksYou dumbdumb whytes wont do nuffin LOOOOOOOOOOOL
Good, sorry no more doing 2 hours of work and playing ping pong while getting a 120k salary. The gravy train is over.
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>>517611279Learn to make real shit.
>>517621163>No degree? Straight into the trashone year "cybersec" certificate will land you 100k+ job herethey are desperate for employees (while they need them)donkey can land a job with enough lucktherefore;you want money from "i.t" sitting on your ass and pretending to work while doing copy/paste, no need for any degrees - unless your cousin that works in some sector is telling you to do so so he/she/them can hook you up or show you the way in
