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Why didn't germanics and celts create high-culture before Christianity? I mean can you name one pagan germanic philosopher?
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>>517620454
You know the answer, kikes and atheist faggots on here will seethe at it, but you know why high-culture is only ever created in Christian societies.
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>>517620454
Tacitus in his work Germania, written around 98 CE.
>Tacitus's observation that when not engaged in warfare or hunting, Germanic warriors were largely idle, spending time eating and sleeping. He noted that the strongest warriors left the management of their households and fields to women, the elderly, and the less capable members of the household. He described this as a "strange paradox" where they loved idleness but hated peace.

>Their food is simple; wild fruit, fresh venison, and coagulated milk; without elaborate delicacies.

>It is a well-known fact that the peoples of Germany never live in cities and will not even have their houses adjoin one another. They dwell apart, dotted about here and there, wherever a spring, plain, or grove takes their fancy. Their villages are not laid out in the Roman style, with buildings adjacent and connected. Every man leaves an open space round his house

Julius Caesar in his Gallic Wars "De Bello Gallico:, Julius Caesar described the eating habits of Germans, around 58 BCE.
>They do not live much on corn [grain], but subsist for the most part on milk and flesh, and are much engaged in hunting


;tldr germans just liked being left alone to hunt, drink milk and eat berries and didnt care about anything else besides fucking
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>>517620454
The autismo logic of Christianity speaks to the German soul.

>>517620578
Most high cultures are pagan thoughbeit, There's the Chinese / Greco-Roman / Ancient Egyptian / Islamic etc.
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>>517620454
Why do christcucks pretend Hellenism isn't the reason Europe reached such a high level of civilization?
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>>517620932
AD, you worthless faggot.
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>>517621128
Based
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>>517621055
Nigger can't read
>Why didn't Germanic/Celts have any high culture before Christianity
No one is claiming Romans and Greeks didn't. However do keep in mind Christianity owes a lot to Greek philosophy, to a large degree the entirety of Christian thought is an outgrowth of Neoplatonism.
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>>517620454
Celts and Germanics were creating this with the technology of Eugenics.
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>>517621055
>only that d00d jeezus was crucified

that nigger in the picture is retarded, imagine my shock
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>>517621128
christ was born in 2 bce and wasnt executed until 32 ce, bc and ad arent accruate to anything
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>>517620454
They were too busy working to stockpile food and supplies for the winter to just sit on their asses all day pointing out what's wrong with society.
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>>517621424
literally the opposite see >>517620932
germans just sat around all day until they felt like hunting and left the work to women
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>>517621414
BC and BCE are Jewish psy-ops. It's BC and AD. Learn it, live it.
>YKSYR
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>>517621486
So the ideal society?
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>>517620454
we don't really know what they created tho. winners get to write the history books. and block anyone do anything of value unless they subscribe to their belief system.
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>>517621238
Yes and Northern Europe remained shitholes until they rediscovered Roman knowledge, the only good thing the christians did was preserve that knowledge.
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>>517621524
its not though, stop adding kikes our history, the date a kike was born is irrelavent
>>517621599
yes, thats why they were never conquered
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>>517620454
Victors write history how do you know that all evidence wasn't just destroyed by the Christians?
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>>517621734
That's the date the son of God came to the world with the ultimate goal of saving you from what you deserve. I'd accept it. I did accept it.
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The Vikings were the best seafarers in history adjusting for time period. There is tremendous wisdom in the Havamal. Also the Celtic peoples of Gaul and Britain had advanced societies some of that culture is preserved in Celtic Mythology.
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>>517621979
the kike on the stick isnt real, and hell isnt even in the bible, but then you havent ever read it. In the bible it says when you die you descend into the pit (grave) until judgement date and if you are deemed evil, your soul is destroyed, if you are good you get to live in the 1000 year kingdom on the new earth, the story of heaven and hell you probably believe comes from paradise lost, a novel and/or dantes inferno, a poem
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>>517620578
>high-culture is only ever created in Christian societies
Laughable bullshit. Athens and Rome didn't have "high-culture" before Christianity? Greatness in Europe and the imposition of Christianity is a correlation not causation.
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>>517620454
Hot take: what's so bad about living a more primitive life? Look where high culture got us in the long run.
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>>517620454
christcucks burn books and edit history to be viewed through their lens, just like their jewish owners. they like to pretend that the degenerate state of Western societies now is because of a lack of christianity rather than the end result of centuries of Christian rule allowing every sort of weakness and degeneracy to survive and spread
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>>517622376
>what's so bad about living a more primitive life?
I guess I like antibiotics and hospitals and clean restaurants, and good schools and clean water and technological progress that improves my life. Uncle Ted while brilliant was just a nut.
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>>517622616
They had clean water, ate a diet of literally steak everyday and had no niggers and didnt need hospitals because they werent injected with goyvax
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>>517620578
> high-culture is only ever created in Christian societi-AAAAAAACCCCKKKKK!!!
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>>517621267
She's ugly..
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>>517622616
noone gives a fuck about "uncle ted"
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>>517620932
>CE
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>>517620454
Rome, Greece, Egypt, Parthia. All high culture without any Christianity.
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>>517622316
Hell is definitely in the bible. I have read it. Jesus mentions it more than anyone else.
You definitely have not read it.
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>>517621238
>Neoplatonism

interesting could you summarize what neoplatonism means in your own words?
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>>517621486
he just meant himself (as a less capable farmer)
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>>517620454
Why is modern Italy, Greece, and Spain such shitholes compared to modern Germany and modern Nordic countries?
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all understanding of modern rights and a lot of the laws which white people gifted minorities game from this time period

what the romans gave us was building tech and government but we already had the rights and laws
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>>517621055
Because it isn't. Western civilization has fuck all to do with greece and rome. Read Spengler.
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>>517623570
no, what gets translated to hell in the american translation of the bible is either the pit or gehanna (the town dump where they burned trash)
>>517624142
no, every source says the same, germans ate meat and foraged fruit, drank milk and didnt do much in the way of farming and mostly just sat around all day if they were hunting, fucking or fighting
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>>517620454
They were all slaughtered by the overwhelming armies of the Romans. And then all history erased by the Christian Church, as was their prime directive.
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A city is something that emerges when you have an excess of agriculture production. Why is a city important?
Well for one thing, population size generally. The city of Rome contained almost as much population in itself as the entire Germanic region at the time. Once your culture develops cities, your population absolutely skyrockets.
Not only are rural population low-density, but mot people are occupied on farming. Whereas in the city, a significant number of people are freed to pursue less menial tasks. You can get intellectualism, and actually make technological advancements. All historians tie the development of cities to a culture suddenly making big technological advancements.

the subterranean sea provided extremely cheap and convenient travel and trade, allowing for a rich diversified economy. All the economically significant nations of the day had some access to the Mediterranean sea. It took time for technology to advance more that civilization could start spreading into more northern regions. The Medieval Warm Period helped a lot too.

My own personal commentary. Although cities enable you to use your human capital and make gains, they are a "demographic sink" that starts draining away a population's potential. Rural populations are not accessing their full potential, but they are building up more potential every year. It's like they are building up more wax that will soon sustain an even greater flame.
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>>517624527
ik(no farming), read again, i meant >>517621424
you are right
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The Germans were conserving their XP points into a massive pool before they surprised leveled up by 100lvl
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>>517620454
>Why didn't germanics and celts create high-culture before Christianity
They were happy with the way things were. Imagine living in a world without niggers, Jews, or Christ golems.
>can you name one pagan germanic philosopher?
All of our culture was destroyed and replaced with semitic mysticism.
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>>517624852
can't really comment on how intellectually/socially advanced the germanics and celts when italians killed their druids
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>>517622339
That's a bingo. Same thing likely occurred a over Europe by waa destroyed by christians trying to rewrite history.
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>>517621486
Oh wow yeah some seething biased report by some geaseball Roman during God knows what time of year and context totally nullifies the reality of harsh European winters that would influence how a people organize themselves and behave
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>>517624634
>Although cities enable you to use your human capital and make gains, they are a "demographic sink" that starts draining away a population's potential. Rural populations are not accessing their full potential, but they are building up more potential every year
This is retarded rightoid bulllshit that is contradicted by the text you already copy and pasted prior to it. You don't even bother to define your epic meme term. You just declare cities as "le bad" because they just are, okay??!? All of it stems from your contemporary conservative view that cities are bad cuz liberals and small towns are epic cuz freedom.
Don't post again.
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>>517626168
City draws in intelligent people and kills them off through lob birthrates. It's fundamentally a tool of economic production not optimized to produce humans, but to produce wealth.
Notice how rome completely disintegrated at the end. They drained all the human potential in the area they conquered. Once it was drained, it was drained, those regions have perpetually remained backward even today.

In the 20th century we did the same thing to Northern Europe, and now we're doing it to asia.
To fix this problem you'd need something like a eugenics program, but we're not allowed to do that. So we will watch all of society crumble as the best and brightest among us are slowly snuffed out
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>>517620454
We will have to engage in a little bit of deduction.
You have implied that Germanics and Celt created high-cultire after converting to christianity, not before. I'll take that as a fact and won't contest it.
If Christianity is the deciding factor in creating high culture then we'd expect all countries to produce it after being Christianised. Let's look at subsaharan Africa - much of it is Christian. Are they also creating high culture according to you?
If yes, then christianity is the deciding factor in creating high culture, if not it isn't. So are they creating high culture or not? Try to answer before you put on a clown make-up.
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>>517626168
>>517626765
>All of it stems from your contemporary conservative view that cities are bad cuz liberals and small towns are epic cuz freedom.
Go right now look up the birthrates of any city, compared to any rural area. Do that right now, tell me what you find.

Most cities have about 0.7 children/woman
Most rural reasy have about 3.2 children/woman

The city is a demographic sink. It draws in the intelligent people and kills them off.
Cosmopolitanism and left wing cultural rot is a huge part of that. People become disconnected from ancestral traditions and follow their pleasures instead. Like the left wing today. That just eviscerates human populations.
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>>517626168
>text you already copy and pasted
Btw, text I typed up myself. You're obviously an ideological leftist butthurt that someone on the right is smarter than you, so you imagine it's all copy-pasted kek
Your mind is totally closed and you're fuming in a huff because you realized your ideology is wrong
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>>517620932
Gee whiz, this sounds horrible. Life is so much better in civilized society where we have fast food instead of wild berries, efficiency apartments instead of houses surrounded by open space, and 50 hour weeks of meaningless work instead of hunting. Thanks Jesus!
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>>517620454
>can you name one pagan germanic philosopher?
No, but that MIGHT have something to do with Christians deeming traditional European religions heretical and suppressing/destroying Pagan documents and libraries.
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>>517627829
Yeah and aside from that, there were plenty of greek pagan philosophers. The ones we referred back to when developing the principles of the scientific method.
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>>517620454
Are you telling me that everyone should be Hellenic Pagans? Semites didn't do anything until Greeks introduced them to culture. Why didn't Semitic Pagans or Jews create high culture before Greek Pagan influence?
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>>517620454
>Why
Low population density.
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>>517620454
they didn't have time for philosophy because they were constantly preparing for winter and fighting wolves

if rome didn't convert to christianity and collapse
germans would have become civilised much sooner
in fact their culture was pretty comfy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Germanic_culture
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>>517620454
Germans are worthless pieces of shit who have never contributed anything to humanity and nobody will ever love germans
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>>517624263
why is german and nordic cuisine so simple compared to meds?
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germanics and scandinavians spent thousands of years perfecting autism
now look at finland
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>>517630326
poor bait
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_inventions_and_discoveries
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>>517630326
Lmao
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>>517622616
You’re literally a slave you fucking retard
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>>517630326
Yeah!@
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>>517629351
These look more like Danish folks
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>>517620454
Romans got their helmets, armor and both sword designs from celts
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>>517630326
I'm crying over here, Shlomo.
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>>517621055
He even drew the butt cheeks.
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>>517630902
>>517629351
Nearly the same thing, really. Both are Germanic peoples.

https://files.catbox.moe/hbzyvl.mp4
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>>517620454
Arminius.
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>>517620454
>Why didn't germanics and celts create high-culture before Christianity?
Love Christ, but Christianity, as a religion and ideology, has nothing to do with civilization.
There's nothing in the teachings of Christ or the Apostles or anyone else, regardless of which Church or Sect you follow, that mentions anything about how you should run a civilization.
Radical Christians could even argue that caring about Earthly Kingdoms is the opposite of Christianity.

It was the legacy of the Roman Empire as a whole, which itself inherited a lot from Greece and other ancient civilizations. The celts and germs and pretty much every barbarian in europe mixed with the Romans(or in the case of Slavs, Eastern Romans) and created new civilizations. No Rome, No europe as we know.

If Christianity was relevant for civilization building, all other places, like many former european colonies that are still shitholes, would have had similar leaps in progress.
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>>517620454
Without Jews, white people would still be living in caves and fucking their cousins.
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>>517631978
>The celts and germs and pretty much every barbarian in europe mixed with the Romans(or in the case of Slavs, Eastern Romans) and created new civilizations.
This is nonsense, because most of Germanic Europe was never tainted by Romans.

Romans tried to conquer our lands, but they got their asses kicked by Germanic tribes. The border of Germanic (Barbarian) lands and the Roman controlled territory is where the remains of the so-called Limes is today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arminius
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>>517627829
How did the grecoroman shit survive so well then?
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>>517621696
The average person in Rome was a slave or landless pajeetii worker, in Germany even the "slaves" owned land.
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>>517620454
>Why didn't germanics and celts create high-culture before Christianity? I mean can you name one pagan germanic philosopher?

(((christians))) destroyed indigenous history, knowledge, art, culture... WHO DO YOU THINK DESTROYED THE ANCIENT LIBRARIES?

(((christians)))
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>>517624263
Protestant autism let them crack 100% literacy rates before everyone else.
>You MUST learn how to read so you can know that ze papacy is LYING about tithes!!!1
Everything else is just compounding inertia after that.
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>>517620454
>yeah thats right run away, go back to your shithuts and spitroasts
Im pretty sure blond people are in fact stupid though all jokes aside.
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>>517620932
Wheres he one about twink boy slave dance offs and gambling? I think the smart germs were retired gay guys from the roman empire and germania was more like Thailand.
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>>517620454
>celts
Had quite a sophisticated culture and archeological evidence for it. Maybe you should stop taking ancient Roman propaganda at face value.
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>>517633322
>oh yeah germanicus or some shit sacked rome
Sure when greece was still the main power what now blondie. They had spear cavalry while rome had trebuchets, even the smarter darker haired questionably asian tribes who took down rome guess what byzantium was already built they werent even as technically advanced as the turks(hungaian tech). Basucally the argument for smart germans/blonds is that the snart ones were jewish/roman refugees who fucked them then they figured out civilization and higher thinking.
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>>517624263
>modern Germany and modern Nordic countries
maybe in 2010 in 2025 all of Europe are shitholes countries
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>>517627022
>Let's look at subsaharan Africa - much of it is Christian. Are they also creating high culture according to you?
Yes they are much more advanced than a century ago
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>>517633016
Christians were also the barbarians that sacked Rome.
>Goths, Visigoths, Franks, Huns.
All Christians. Many were essentially paid off by (((byzantium))) to sack the more pagan west.
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>>517633361
The tacitus anon is on to something and i read it, theyre basically warlords and merchants. And not unconquerable just that taking over all of europe and giving everyone roads and buildings and shit is stupid and a waste of money.
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I went to the zoo with my 3 cousins. We enjoyed watching the 7 monkeys, 9 penguins, and 5 elephants. We did not get souvenirs.
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>>517620454
Rome. Romans were Celt-Iberian.
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>>517633703
You cant forget the gothic architecture though thats kinda impressive, its not like byzantium fell and the riches and technology of rome was lost that shit went to germany in the dark/medeival ages or so becaise some jew built the turks a better cannon than anyone in europe had look it up "ottoman siege cannon hungarian jewish nigger."
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>>517620454
Youd think they just moved to rome in the first place
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>>517629351
>girls night out in the big city 1621ad
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>>517620932
this divide continues today while the >roman control freaks insist you MUST live in the podpartment and never have an idle second to your self
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>>517633943
Germany and France already had the technology to build giant bombards of their own.
The Holy Roman emperor literally brought bombards with him for his military parades.
Orban was just fellowing the trendy European wonder weapons of the time and only offered it to the sultan because the (((Byzantines))) couldn’t be bothered to actually pay Orban for his work.
(This is a common theme in (((Byzantine))) history.)
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>>517633016
It really is one of the greatest losses for humanity.
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>>517620454
Vikings got to North America first without believing in Christ. There are inventions made by pagans, and Christian converts used them along with adopting pagan traditions but changing them to be more "Christian". Christmas itself has lot of pagan traditions. Greeks and Romans just figured out lot more shit before the rest of Europe by hundreds of years without any Abrahamic nonsense.

If Christ somehow makes people more competent, how come African Christians are still war ravaged, in constant famines, and need aid to survive after several generations of Christians in Africa?
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>>517620454
>I mean can you name one pagan germanic philosopher?
Personally I believe there was a general Indo-European trend of purposefully abstaining from writing, especially religious information. Not all groups kept this taboo, the Romans and Greeks certainly did not, the Hittites did not either.

However it is a fact that the Celts most certainly had large scale complex societies. They were literate and knew how to write. And decidedly did not do so often. Roman sources note they had to be careful transmitting written messages because the Celts could read them. Everything about their religion was recorded by others. We know for a fact the Celts at least did have a taboo against writing religious information.

The Germans are much the same. Everywhere they went they left traces of writing, but it is only post-Christianization that they begin to record anything of substance. While there is no evidence they had a taboo like the Celts, it stands to reason. They begin writing immediately upon Christianization, they knew how to write before, they CHOSE not to.

The same goes for the Slavs as well.

The Iranians most certainly knew how to write, we have uncovered vast quantities of writing from them. However, the very earliest religious and philosophical writings come from the period AFTER the Arabic conquest. Zoroastrian scripture appears to have been entirely orally transmitted for well over a thousand years. Then only when the religion was on the verge of dying out did they begin to write it down, and also record commentaries.

The Hindus likewise originally exclusively orally transmitted their religion for over a millennia before writing it down. More isolated related groups that stuck primarily to Rigvedic deities did not write about religion at all.

This is however NOT a general pagan trend. We have a vast quantity of writings from the Middle East, including on religious matters. We do from Egypt as well. The pre-Celtic Iberians also wrote a tremendous amount.
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>>517620454
they didnt have books and paper and shit. holy shit why are christucks so fucking stupid
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>>517634550
Youd thonk hed go to prussia or austria first
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>>517635152
So in short, the reason you have not heard of famous Germanic or Celtic philosophers is because they intentionally did not write. For some reason they, and numerous other groups in history, decided that oral transmission of philosophy and religion was necessary. This was not an isolated trend, and among Indo-European groups it seems the outliers are those who wrote such things down.
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>>517634957
Christians have been in africa since 1ce.
They havent progressed at all.
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>>517635646
jews. it was jews.
once you write something down they'll take it, study it, subvert it.
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>>517635937
I don't think the Celts or Germanics had any concept of what a Jew even was prior to Christianization. Judea was kinda a long way away, and they weren't scattered all over the world yet.
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>>517620454
They refused to write anything down.
We have some inscriptions in Lepontic, Gaulish and Ogham, they had writing systems, but nothing substantial has survived.
Either it was never written, or it is lost due to impermanent media. There may well have been great works of philosophy etc but the only records are oral tradition, passed down in the form of rhymes and 'poetry' by Druids and Bards who held powerful social positions.
To the best of our knowledge this was deliberate.
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>>517620454
They were not unified, celts had something closer to medieval architecture and society while germanics were more like cavemen, but they were constantly at war with each other which is why it was so easy for romans to play them against each other. They were better off under rome once the gallic wars were over and done with, many of them went on to become full citizens. Gauls notably did much of the fighting for rome in the later dacian wars for example
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we did
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>>517636175
Unless you subscribe to the neanderthal/cro magnon = Jew/Aryan theory. In which case they might have had an idea or memory of them, just not an understanding of their current iteration. Epigenetics and by extension genetic memory have been proven to be real.
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>>517623061
nah you're just a faggot



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