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Could I defend it if I can't even conform to it.

I'm going to be a 30yr old kissless virgin with no friends working a job he hates. I tried to do everything right, like getting an education and a job, but the end result was the same.

What do you do when even the "good boys" are fucked over?
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>>517625826
Prostitutes bro.
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>>517625826
update your passport and head on over to pinalove
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>>517626322
Soliciting prostitution is illegal in this shithole.
>>517626681
Ok, but how do I avoid being drugged, robbed, or raped?
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>>517626322
Don't do this. It's fun for a few minutes but you risk getting STDs for a lifetime. In any case, you won't feel better about being a loser if you pay for sex.
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>>517625826
LMAO
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>>517626844
True. It will be even worse if I have to tell people that my one and only sexual experience was something I paid for.
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>>517625826
Get a cool hobby, find something manly to do, have interesting shit to talk about other than being a depressed kissless virgin.

Try horse training. My family has done it since the 1800s and if my retarded, bipolar, insane grandfather could get a girl so hopelessly in love with him that he hit her with a truck on two separate occasions, and she *still* had a mental breakdown after he left her for... I don't know, bipolar reasons, she suffered a catatonic breakdown... There's a chance for you.
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>>517626844
>>517625826

>not going to your local Asian massage parlor (where they won’t even ID you for your age) to use an Asian MILF’s soles as a fleshlight for only 60 USD

are you gay anon? Can’t catch STDs or risk pregnancy from hands, mouths, or feet
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This actually happened to me. A hot girl started hitting on me when she found out I just got out of prison. I fucked her good and made her cum but she wanted to be constantly mistreated and even told me point blank that she would like me to treat her worse and be meaner and more vicious and stop acting so gentle and sweet because she really wasn’t into that. She wanted me to beat her and throttle her, especially in bed. And she was an extreme feminist albeit hot and trim and without dyed hair
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>>517626922
Anon, I...

Either way you pay for it. There are no women (unless insane catladies) who won't make you pay somehow first. Either it's dates and movies, driving them around in a car, buying flowers and shit, and eventually a house, bills and groceries. Paying a prostitute is far cheaper and they pretty much do what you want.
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>>517626785
don’t go for girls way out of your league. normal looking girls instead of the high-end ones is a safe bet. also be willing to invest time. most of them want marriage. make sure you find the right one if you’re going to marry her, but don’t waste their time if you don’t want what they want. there is also thaifriendly but there’s way more hookers in thailand. if you want a relationship, you’re better off with a flip
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>>517625826
>>517626785
I'll give you some SAGE advice.
Use your powers of autism to study how to dress and groom yourself and how to take good pictures. You can just do this on YouTube it will take like 1-2 month of autism to learn it all.
Then actually go outside and do stuff and get people to take photos of you until you have collected. This may take up to a year. Yes you will have to humiliate yourself to accomplish this, just do it.
Using said photos make a profile on OKCupid and barely write anything in your profile so ESL cuties aren't intimidated.
Sift through the dozens of likes from overseas girls you will get in your first week. Yes you may have to pay $ to OKCupid, just do it you bitch.
Find like 3 Filipinas and a Viet in your list of likes who seem like decent real girls not scamming whores. It's not that fucking hard to tell but you're on your own here.
Message them sincerely and regularly. When they mention you visiting them, playfully agree. Next day show them a screenshot of you looking to book flights. At least one of them will say yes book it come see me.
Actually book the flight and go see her.
This will literally work, stop complaining. Your problem is solvable.
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>>517626996
That sounds expensive. How can you even get into that?

Also, there is the more serious problem of not having any friends.
I don't have a problem with group hangouts and I can be kind of extroverted. But I'm not the facilitator of gatherings so it ends up being a one time activity.
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>>517627427
Holy shit, that's a lot of work. What happened to just saying hi?
Maybe one of the main problems is that I'm just too damn lazy to put in this "specialized" effort.
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>>517625826
>but the end result was the same.
so having a job to survive was the same as not having a job and surviving
if you have that kind of safety net then why work at all, you clearly have plenty of support, and arguably no reason to bitch. The fact that you mention kissing, as if that's a serious issue, implies you're in lala land and have no actual problems
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>>517627463
Go find a horse farm and ask them if they could use an extra hand. Ask to do it without pay at first, and if they can teach you how to work with them. You could also ask to be a farrier, which is a horse shoe worker. It's a severely underappreciated job and helps keep a lot of horses alive.

A lot of really fucking wild women adore horses, and also have a lot of daddy money. Be a horse trainer, fuck horse girls.
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>>517625826
Anyone has the genderbent version of this meme of a mexican man expecting a racist white woman?
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>>517627715
You think that's a lot of work bitch? American girls demand 20x as much.
>I tried to do everything right, like getting an education and a job
No, you are a lazy bitch. That's why your job sucks.
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>>517627728
>if you have that kind of safety net then why work at all
To get a bigger safety net.
>you clearly have plenty of support, and arguably no reason to bitch.
I know, which makes the self-hatred worse.

It's more of a social and psychological problem than anything else. Hitting 30 is just really making me think about it.
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>>517627213
Straight up handing money to a woman you've never met to suck your dick is different than taking her on a date lmao. Ultimately, OP, you want to find someone to have a long term relationship with and hookers will never have the possibility of developing into one.
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>>517627427
This strat is retardedly overcomplicated. You could simply go to Vietnam or some other shitty southeast asian country and bag a random chick off the street (just vet one without a dick) the first day you're there as a westerner.

Dressing and grooming are steps to finding a western woman
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>>517627933
OP is throwing a one-man pity party
you give a man step-by step instructions on how to solve an easy problem and he makes excuses
this isnt even news or politics, fuck this
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Go back to your root and use your connection if you have any; fucked if you're chinese or just multi-generational native.

I was just another loser with a home office job. Was planning to go to prostitute by 30 but thinking over it makes me feel disgusted at myself. That feeling of disgust help pointed me to the right direction. Fed up by 27 and asked all my relatives to find me a girl. Cousin hook me up with one back in my homeland in vietnam. We've dated for 2 years and got married. She's a childish, tone deaf goofball, but i adore her.

TLDR: imo dating apps are incentivized to keep you using so that's useless. Meeting people IRL like pickup artists is just too stressful and superficial. Ask your connection to find girls from a more conservative culture where they also want to build something rather than just looking endlessly for prince charming.
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>>517628565
I guess that could work, but it really feels like giving up.
I've got nothing against my mother's people, it's just that I really believed a common national identity would bring people together. I openly disdained migrant communities for prioritizing their own ethnic in-group preferences; I thought it was backwards and a threat to North America and Western Europe, yet here I am contemplating the same social mindset out of lonliness.
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>>517625826
wait for economic collapse
>>517626322
sex is overrated
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>>517625826
3F rule brother. If anything flies, floats, or fucks it’s better rented. The thing about relationships and socializing is it’s just a convoluted projection of yourself. If you don’t like yourself now, then it’s impossible for you to like others. Even if somehow you acquire girlfriend or wife, it’ll be a bitter relationship if you don’t love yourself. This is something most people will not understand in their entire life.
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>>517627731
Pretty good advice lmao. Horses do take a lot of money to maintain. They are also mainly a passion/sport animal now due to automobiles, so people who own them are more likely to be ambitious.
>>517629567
That's a pretty good description of it. A lot of modern relationships are driven by a narcissistic desire for popularity, more than being genuine.
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>>517627135
they get brainwashed by psychopaths who beat them, and cope by pretending tis hot. like women who pretend they dont regret their tatoos by getting more. they r ejust morons. no one wants to get beaten naturally
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>>517625826
But he can still choke her during sex?
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>>517625826
Anyone have the original?
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>>517625826
Fuck back you dumb fucking nigger. Start a kike hating club. Sue the government for stupid shit. Light a court house on fire. If you can't breed, you're a surplus male. If you're a surplus male, your only hope at a legacy is violence or extreme (probably) political action.
Or you can die an irrelevant genetic dead end. Your choice fag.
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>>517625826
hey man, i've had 5-6 gfs and slept with about 15 girls in my life, 38yo. im telling you they're all the same. i can understand you want to experience it since you never did, but you'd be disappointed. girls aren't worth it, just do something actually useful of your life.
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>>517629911
Lol. Leave it to the Italian to know nothing about women. They not so secretly yearn to be dominated.
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>>517630598
>Leave it to the Italian
>France
Huh?
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>>517630786
Meh. Close enough.
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>>517625826
>Can western social norms even be maintained?
Maintained, no. They are already destroyed.

What they must do is evolve.

Past norms: Be fair to people.
Result: Communists take advantage of your fairness and treat you unfairly until society collapses.

New post-Trump norm: Discriminate against Marxists and Communists at every opportunity. Only allow conservative-minded people into positions of power.
Result: To be determined.
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>>517632033
The hordes of people collapsing America largely commit social benefit fraud and have preferential treatment in many aspects of life. Removing these benefits will collapse their communities.
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>>517633062
Elaborate way to write “TND”
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>>517625826
No
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>>517625826
>working a job
There's your problem.
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op fancies himself as a "nice guy" when he is literally a deranged incel. his crush chooses to fuck the chad , who is actually nice. ofc, he donkey fucks her but both parties enjoy this. only OP, who nobody asked, is bothered.
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>>517625826
Post 'em
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hey bros, lonely zoomer here
should I go out alone? I entered uni and didn't make a single friend yet, I don't leave my room all day
i'm so depressed I don't leave my room for days, my parents don't care
if I go out alone, what should I do?
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>>517627213
>Paying a prostitute is far cheaper and they pretty much do what you want.
Stop with this cope, prostitutes NEVER want to do what you ask em, they don't even want to fuck more than 15 minutes
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>>517625826
>Can western social norms even be maintained?
No
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>>517635137
You don't even have to do anything, Just take a lap. Simply leaving your room every day is an important step.

Side point, an American who went out alone without a plan would likely find nothing. I'm not sure what the situation is like in Greece, but finding a group that takes newcomers is a prerequisite for going out socially.

Still go out and walk a bit though
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>>517635292
i'm not greek though, but thanks for the advice
honestly, yeah, if you don't have a group to go out with the thing is actually pretty boring, but maybe it's as you say and actually I should go out just to not rot in my bedroom
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>>517635438
So a Turk then? Just visit the campus mosque
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>>517635438
>not greek
You're obviously finnish
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>>517626844
>rawdogging prostitutes
Wear a fucking condom you idiot.
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>>517635964
If a nonce wants to get pozzed that's his business you Ponce
Toss off, wanker!
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>>517637284
Mah nigga Pablo be gilded up for locktober
Sheit
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Ive come to accept that I will die alone
From time to time I get sad but then I remember that I literally cannot function being around someone else for too long
Maybe its because of using this site or maybe its me but I never truly get to be myself around others for fear of being a fucking weirdo
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>>517626322
Fucking sloppy billionths nah I'm good
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>>517637548
Introversion is SVPERIOR EVROPEAN heritage
We just have to revoke femoids rights and smack them then remain in our studies for the rest of the evening smoking pipes and inventing wondrous machinations of the 19th century
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>>517625826
You sound too much time consuming brown coded media and memes. These memes are made by brown people taking from their brown culture
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>>517637548
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>>517635031
A brown woman made this and she takes from her brown culture
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>>517625826
Pro tip: treat women like shit, abuse them, manipulate them >>> they will love you and be obsessed with
threat them well >>> you will be dumped
t. learned it the hard way
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>>517625826
>What do you do when even the "good boys" are fucked over?
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>>517637745
hot. what's the best way to find a woman that likes to be treated like shit?
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>>517625826
No man it’s over lol. Havent you figured it out yet?
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>>517625826
I do this.

I sleep and eventually I call warmongers retards on 4chan.
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>>517637745
I did this and didn't come out as expected lol. I guess she wasn't that stupid.
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>>517625826
If you start crying about how lonely you are on a first date with a woman, you deserve to be lonely
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>>517637797
They ALL do, even that hot looking crush you saw in xyz, she wants to be treated like that. Just don't be abrupt about it, be normal till you sleep around with her, then literally imagine her like a literal shit and use those emotions in your favor, slapping choking, spitting on her, force her to lick your ass after deepthoating her, pull her hair and shove her around, I know, it sounds crazy from a normal guy perspective, but women are far fucked up in the head, she will remember it forever and will call you all the time to get treated like that. Oh btw, the more she's bossy in the normal life (say big boss corp) the more she wants to be treated like that, they literally say they find it peaceful to let go and get raped (muh cnc) and abused, crazy.
>>517637974
you didn't activate her wild side (aka intimidate her), do that and try again, unless she is after your money and never in any sexual way, which should be enough motive to treat her like shit even further
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>>517638136
She wants the ability to lock your nonce ass up, Amadeus



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