you literally can't refute this
The Jews cause Communism and half your population takes up their rifles and arms and murders the other half of the population over the incorrect distribution of labor, jewish niggernote confetti money, indulgences and choice mates.That's why fascism is bad. Half of you noahide shabis goyim have to die at the end of it.
>>517637140>>517637232>cimmerian pervertKek bap
>>517637232Are you conflating communism and fascism because they couldn't be more opposing ideologies
>>517637140It's a troon adjacent ideology. Imagine spending your whole life desperately searching for some strongman to tell you what to do and how to think. It's straight up fatherless behavior.
>>517637140>why being a fascist is badpicrel
>>517637430as opposed to Antifa that exhibit actual fatherless behavior? Are you being purposely obtuse or are you normally this retarded?
>>517637140All collectivist left wing ideologies are fuckedIndividualism = the is individual above the state. The state serves the citizen.Collectivism = the individual is below the state. The citizen serves the state. Mussolini ( hard core socialist) said “ Everything within the state , nothing outside the state , nothing against the state “.The only thing that made Mussolini fascist Italy different from a communist state was nationalism.Mussolini realized that people would fight for their nation long before class.
>>517637608Two things can be wrong at the same time
>>517637140The intelligence of the masses are very limited. They must never be given more than one or two targets to focus on. All opponents, regardless of how far removed from each other they may be, should be given one label. This has the added bonus of giving the masses the impression that they have only one enemy. Therefore, if you are right of center you are fascist.There is no thought process behind what fascist means because that's not the point.
>>517637327lol no Only I’m your imagination
>>517637774> Individualism = the is individual above the state. The state serves the citizen.We’ve had that for a very long time and the state doesn’t serve the citizens, it serves jews and israeli jews exclusively
>>517637327Fascism is a kitschy larp, communism is the result of capitalism succeeding. They do not oppose each other. I can see a future where capitalistic monopoly will force the world to become a socialist, stateless society that can THEN become extremely militaristic and obsessed with masculinity.As usual, /pol/ is mostly slop when it comes to politics. We don't live long enough to grow out of the blinding shit that people like Bannon fill the discourse with.
>>517637140its not complicated and if you havnt figured it out now you never will.fascism needs a constant enemy to exclude and blame, after that enemy is gone, they need a new one, eventually everyone is excluded because even if you get to a white exclusive society, you will start infighting and excluding each other.trannys gone nothing changedmexicans deported nothing changed.now we are blaming leftistseventually you get called to the block. Fascism is a self destructive worship of death and antithetical to humanity.
>>517637905Nah
>>517637140Doesn't it just mean "bad" or something?
>>517637140Libtards using two brain cells to call capitalism fascism
>>517637774the state IS the citizen when government works properly.your thinking of different flavors of authoritarianism whenever you dont consider a state and citizens literally lateral.You're just wrong, your feelings dont align with reality.
Because they lose wars, faggot!
>>517637811>wanting strong leaders is le bad>therefore all our leaders should be weak faggotsand you are a faggot
>>517637888okay retard
>>517637924its time to go back kiddo. shitposting on your busride home are we.
>>517637774it's the nationalism part that jews fear. nationalism means people banding together and expelling or exterminating outsiders and parasites in their nation.
>>517637430No its behaviour of people who had fathers and understand there has to be hierarchy in society just like there must be hierarchy in the family, only fatherless people reject hierarchy and rebel against it, leftists for example
>>517637774the amish are collectivists, they dont put the state above themselves.same with the hutterites.
>>517637924>literal sloppostretard
>>517637140Fascism = every single nation throughout history until recently.Kikes trying to pathologize normal societies
>>517638080>needing leaders at allLook bud I'm sorry you grew up without a dad but your defectiveness is shrimply not my problem
>>517637140>why is fascism badBecause it's anti-communist and anti-capitalist and therefore antisemitic!
>>517638257fascism was literally coined less than 100 years ago. You are wrong. its been a flavor of pre-capitalism, or feudalism, which would be the time period your thinking of because i know damn well you dont know shit about any other point in history, or any other country.Often times the feudalist would appeal to the church and receive the mandate of god and they would self validate.
>>517638283If your dad was not the head of the household and the leaderfigure in your life you had a bad father
>>517637140Fuck the state and fuck being told what to do. That's why.
>>517638394shitting on >>517638283doesnt make him any less right about you basically being a woman who needs her hand held and lead.
>>517637140Everyone always assumes they're the fascist telling everyone else what to do.
>>517638399your gonna hate trump then bro. I cant even make a joke about jews anymore.
>>517638257Half yall are just touting fascism because you think it's just a counter to the left but you have no idea how all these things are modern inventions
>>517638444the same flaw exist in capitalism where everyone is under the impression they are 2 days away from being a millionaire.
>>517637140It depends on what flavor of fascism it is. If it gives you purpose in life. Where it tells you to study hard, work hard, start a family, eat healthy etc. Is that such a bad thing if the dictator is telling you good things to get your life in order?
>>517637981what the fuck are you on about you abject retard?fascism is quite literally about banding together for a greater good or ideal, not dividing from one another for destruction.you must be a kike to invert reality like that.
>>517638372Doesn't matter when it was coin retardEvery society before modern democracy would be considered fascist by current standards, even ancient Greek democracies
>>517638283opposing countries will violate your NAP with their tactical McNukes, then what
>>517638283>implying you would survive in a world with no leadersKek, jej evenPower is here to stay. Theres no system where might doesnt rise to the top, and it wont be some faggot like you. >>517638394Anarchy is just a transitional state to communism, go listen to actual self avowed anarchists and see how often they literally talk about communes kek. Youre just too stupid to realize.
>>517638394Yes you stupid Mongolian nigger, that's what I've been saying. Household =/= the state.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc5yfgeycTkEssential viewing, if you havent seen this yet, you're welcome
>>517638041>capitalism
>>517637140fascism is bad because white people invented it.
>>517638701kike
>>517638635>Power is here to stay. Theres no system where might doesnt rise to the topI can see that, and that's how dysgenic little jewish faggots like you make their living. Trying to police everyone else. Like the government version of discord trannies or redditors.
>>517637140It's bad because we say so, chud!
>>517637140There’s a million ways to let someone do something, but there’s only one way to really keep them from doing something.Fascism is the business of keeping people from doing things alongside a scoreboard of a never ending purity spiral.
>>517637821The point is to allow Marxist ideals to permeate through the masses, and/or to allow these ideals to be practiced in society for the purpose of the erosion of national identity.Because Marxism requires conflict between classes it also allows conflicts to be played off each other, to be controlled, to keep the masses, the useful idiots who engage in these conflicts, distracted from those who are creating the conflicts in the first place.Over time, power is being concentrated behind the scenes to the point that it can fully lift the veil without consequence.
>>517637140because you will leave dirty shoes on a museum.
>>517638614then your wrong again anyway cause it wasnt fascism, it was a version of feudalism....fag.>>517638588if its too complicated dont worry about it. you literally just described socialism and called it fascism. this is a common problem with capitlists too where they will describe socialists systems as capitlist and decry capitalist profit chasing as "socialist"Death panels are a good example if your old enough to remember the obamacare debate. But probably not based on your response.
>>517638833bro just admit your jewish.
>>517638891No, you are a retard.Tell me what a Fasci is.Yes, fascism is inherently socialist. It is a subset of socialism. You are just to much of a retard to understand that.
>>517638614>>the roman empire was fascistic with its melting pots of different cultures and importing of foreign goods.please just stop.
>>517638934I denounce the talmud. This is how the jew operates.You should read mustache bros book.
>>517639009wow, you know where the world fascist was drawn from but you dont know what fascism is....
>>517637924>played straight kike golem postRareKys
>>517637924Nazis were the natural response to communism and globalist capitalism. It was an ethnic nation trying to preserve it's heritage and prevent the incoherent demographics that currently plague the world thanks to globalism.
>>517639032unironically love to read, ill check it out for sure as long as its not some weird ass esoteric nazi larp comic book.
>>517637140they should instaban any faggot that says 'refute' on hererefute this without sounding madnigger
>>517639012yes, it quite literally was fascistic.Only Romans were citizens and had a right to vote. For the purpose of upholding the ideals of Rome.
>>517639078It's public domain and free to download.
>>517639032oh you meant mein kompf, i already read it man, i read das kapital too.mein kompf reads a little to whiney and self aggrandizing to me along with its endless historical twisting and inaccuracies being infuriating. he literally rewrote history that was already written for alot of people even today.das kapital was pretty preachy, but it did explain the fundamental flaws of capitalism that we are currently experiencing and seeing today. So it atleast, if nothing else, gives you a idea of what to expect since its been relatively accurate.marx was a unemployed depressed rich kid.
>>517639037no, you have a retarded world view that has been indoctrinated to think "fascism" is "right wing" when the reality of it is that is moderate authoritarianism.
>>517639203kampf* sorry i didnt mean to disrespect your dad. the man responsible for modern day israel.
You are right kill all trans
>>517639009>fascism is inherently socialist. It is a subset of socialism.Structurally it is similar to what we have now in the west.It's just that it is judeo fascist in terms of the ideals, and as result also anti nationalistic an hilariously corrupt.Another difference being that the (((elites))) in our system primarily reside outside the public light whereas in fascist systems the elected regime was the ruling elite class (see Franco, Mussolini, Putin etc).
>>517639222you dont even know my world view. you never asked, your assuming it with your feelings the same way you operate in the rest of the world. You dont your world view challenged and its scary, i get it.But im not just going to fall in line and repeat your dumb shit because it makes you feel good.What do you want to know about my world views so you can better determine whether or not your feelings are justified?
>>517639095you won't do shit :)
>>517639286what YOU have, the us is no where close to socialist beyond welfare for elders and businesses. Doin't conflate the entire west with the functional system you have produced.
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>>517639095i refute (rebuke) this.
fascism is basically world government but for one country. it might as well be a jewish creation. authoritarian slop that puts power hungry psychos before debate,truth and actual common goodunsurprisingly hitler didnt listen to generals and ruined everything, drunk with power and beliefany ideology based on authority instead of truth and debating ideas is doomed to fail. its based on power grab instead of decision makingmaybe hitler believed his own shit but that doens tmake him any less retarded. thats what happens when you re atheist. your cause becomes a religion and it makes you irrational. if he played his cards correctly he would have won easily. and like napoleon people around him worshipped him. ignorant times
>>517639290it is quite easy to see with how you misconstrue political realities to fit your narrative that you have an agenda. This has nothing to do with my feelings, it has to do with reality and the rejection of reality by people like you. You will never accept reality as it is, so you must attempt to pilpul your way into changing language and meanings to control narratives. All of this to keep your ego alive. You are trying to make it seem like I am being emotional, when I am stating the truth, and pointing out your horrendous and deceitful lies.
>>517639341>jewish schizophreniano thanks.
>>517639503what do you want to know about my world views?cause you just made alot of shit up. Ill give you one example, i dont believe you should legally be allowed to eat food unless you produce it.In my world view, almost all of you would starve.What am i? what is my agenda?
>>517639499Hitler and the like are one flavor of fascism. Fascism is more that just the NSDAP and totalitarianism. People in general don't seem to care for the fact that China is currently a Fascist state, and even the USSR was Fascist adjacent due to its totalitarian nature.
>>517639203Shalom rabbi. Mein Kampf, written in 1924, details the movement of the German Workers' National Socialist Party and why Hitler thought it was necessary given the social decay at the time. He also writes about the challenges that he would have to face and how he planned to overcome them. It's a primary source for the time it was written.
>>517639595you are a minarchist.
All you idiots arguing what fascism is are missing the point. You are playing into the ruse!
>>517639669keep the good ideas, leave the bad ones. Thats how societies evolve and form. Ill take the good lessons from it and ill abandon the parts that didnt work.thats how things should work.I hate israel and hope it gets wiped off the face of the earth, its a illegitimate state and i hope netanyahu literally gets raped to death by sand niggers. i hope bibi doesnt tell trump to send a christian death squad to kill me over what i said based on the current power dynamics of the current USA admin and israel.lets keep dismantling societal cohesion though, thats fun!
>>517637140Because it's a populist ideology based on feelings and fantasy. So they end up un a self-inflicted frenzy and get destroyed by their idiocy.They start stupid conquests and end up destroying their own homeland, staining the soul of their citizens with anger and misery and their hands with blood.Israel is currently on its way there. They already turned the world (minus their golem) against them.America is the most successful fascist experiment, but now it stopped bombing places across oceans and started turning its guns inwards. Your frenzy already destroyed your soul. Your previous wars brought nothing but debt, economic instability, and normalization of violence. You're senslessly killing each other every day, and now the government is also aiming inwards. Good luck.
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>>517639714wrong.but some of the ideas are pretty based. Its a damn good guess though. A strong state is needed to prevent a stronger state from getting fascistic ideas.
>>517639813do you have the meme with the dictionary definition from the 30s saying it's an Anti-Bolshevik movement, I didn't save it and I regret it.
>>517639714also capitalism has been proven to be a failed system for the vast majority of people. I denounce profit seeking capitalism.
>>517639754Fascism is not inherently bad.Is that what you wanted to hear?Fascism at times can actually be quite beneficial, just as monarchism could be given the right situation and scope.A republic is by far the least prone to corruption, but as all other forms of government it can just as easily be tyrannical if corrupted.
a interesting idea that was presented to me by someone who wouldnt be caught dead in a place like this is that democracy isnt a system onto itself, but a transitory system, as in its temporary and exists exclusively to provided organization as a society decides its true form of governance.Think of democracy like a cacoon and we got no idea if we are going to be a moth, or a butterfly.thought it was a neat idea for anyone who wanted to play with it.I think its just how things are, empires start crumbling around 200-600 years and we are at 250 with 1 civil war already under our belt. We are not in a good situation as a country honestly.
>>517639813just because they are both collectivist ideologies does not mean they are similar in practice
>>517639893Are you really going to lean into Das Kapital that much?I will agree that international capitalism is a failed system, but it does have very compelling means for maintaining an autarkic nation.
>>517637140The only thing I've come up with, is if you're a fascist you will be killed. Anyone leftists want dead they call them fascist.
>>517639897No, I didn't want to hear anything.Zioshill OP it's probably laughing his nose off reading this thread. It's not what fascism is that's an issue, it's about how this word is being used to create conflict amongst the masses.
>>517640103i didnt say throw away all capitalist ideas.i denounce PROFIT SEEKING capitalism because i use the post office and i think having shit like fire fighters, and the mail system is pretty cool. Cops are needed, but need to be heavily reformed, not just because of police violence, but because of shit like the retirement scam and them essentially draining states of funds and treating citizens like a piggy bank for bad enforcement actions. I paid brionna taylors family, the cops dont have any money, they dont make any profit in any form. the jails do lol
>>517640007democracy(!) is an absolutely horrible form of government. If Capitalism is a horrible economic system, democracy is an equally horrible social system for the same reasons.Republicanism (not the type of republicans of the political party in the US) is by far the most consistently stable form of government we have created thus far.
>>517640225for anyone who doesnt know, when you see a retired cop with nice things its because he did a retirement pension scam on the state where he saved up all his PTO and other guys give him PTO on his last year of work and he retires with a pension saying he worked 300 hours in a week. Its a common and well known scam.
>>517637140very and highly anti semiticthe 6 million goy
>>517640256yea, democracy has failed. I dont know why, i geniunely sometimes wonder if we had mandatory education if it would of lasted longer. People today dont give a shit about the truth, or wanting to learn anything. They know everything and live in a post truth world where their feelings are the only justification they need to believe anything.
>>517640256>not the type of republicans of the political party in the USIt's exactly the same wake up
>>517640295i could honestly probably live in any system. I am a bit of a self reliant woods hermit. But if i had to choose, for my own personal lifestyle and safety i need your society to be cohesive and stable so you dont come out here and impose your flawed will on me.I dont care what you all decide to become, but if i had to choose id probably pick something akin to the nordic countries, high personal freedom and strong social safety nets. Our current system has had more and more people ready to destroy my life because theirs failed.
>>517637140I didn't know before moving to Italy, but before Mussolini like nobody could read, there were no highways or trains, and the country didn't not speak one common language.Hard to say he was bad for the country. In fact nobody has been in a rush to erase fascism from Italian history, a lot of government buildings, train stations, banks etc are all fascist architecture.
>>517640413they are named after that ideal, yes. but they no longer actually govern as such.
>>517641051The Republic was always a masonic creation favoring individualism, universalism, agnotism, atheism, judaism in opposition of Catholic monarchies.Look at the past centuries.
