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Why has russia failed so catastrophically?
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gesture of good will but putin has recently announced he will take the gloves off
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>>517641371
putin failed on purpose so he could replace all those dead russians with jeets
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His over rated and it was all propoganda
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>>517641371
The special military operation has succesfully prevented Nato expansion and destroyed all biolabs in Ukraine
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>>517641371
The Russian military is just too small and weak.
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>>517641524
it didnt though, finland and sweden joined nato
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>>517641371
No airforce apparently
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>send a few thousand gopniks to die
>sanctions successfully contest the global dominance of the USD allowing CIPS and other non-SWIFT to thrive
>open up a fuckload of new markets in India and Afrika and export more than ever
>frustrate the Belt and Road and keep China dependant
>solidify the EU's split from the USA
>massive tech boom in Russia, hackers to drones to weapons
It seems pretty successful even if they've failed to annex the Ukraine
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>>517641947
and then you woke up
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>>517641947
>Afrika
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>>517642264
Wow. Russian transcription is different from English. Africa is also Afrika in German, for example. You sure did show em.

And if you translate it word for word from Russian, you wouldn't get such a good translation like in the post, which in turn hints us that the poster is fluent in English and that "mistake" is a stylistic choice. All online translators are still shit for translating Russian. Also, if you did translate it straight from Russian, then you would get "Africa" as in English language.
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>>517642595
lol yeah now a russian ip shows up seething about me exposing his vpn
you really are fucking retarded, anon
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>>517642618
>seething
Explaining to you nuances of different languages is defo seething, my dude. World is a bit more complicated, you know?
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>>517642678
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>517642786
You also write "Africa" in French then, I assume. European seething about differences is language is retarded.
At no point in time did I tell you my position about my country or the war. You don't even know if I support it. Why the butthurt?
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>>517642918
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>517642953
Well, as always, french retards show why no one likes them in Europe. No thoughts, no nuance, nothing. Have a good one
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>>517643003
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>517642678
yep you just showed up out of nowhere straight after i exposed your vpn, a mere coincidence im sure
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>>517641524
>prevented Nato expansion
NATO has become the biggest it's ever been as a result of the war though.
>>517642595
>>517642678
That's his point, dumb dumb. An aussie would have said "Africa" not "Afrika"
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>>517643003
>French
There's 0.1% chance of that guy being French.
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serbia is a real country?
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greetings sirs, i am from avstralia, sidnei, and i just found out rossia will beat ykraina in 2 more weeks though
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>>517641947
>>frustrate the Belt and Road and keep China dependant
trade with china dropped by 9% in 2025
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>>517643391
France is a real country, your real place of origin is fake as fuck though.
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It's almost as if prolonging the war was more profitable for certain actors on both sides.
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>>517642595
>and that "mistake" is a stylistic choice.
>faint
>gesture of goodwill
>quietly exploding
>stylistic choice
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>>517641371
The Joos did this
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>>517643196
What if he is larping as NatSoc? I've seen that they expicitly write Afrika Corps for example. It is a strange error to make even if he is fsb retard with vpn. Why write everything correctly and just make this spelling mistake. I guess we will never know
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>>517643544
and where would that be?
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>>517643577
Have you read Clockwork Orange for example? All those Russian words in there are a stylistic choice
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>>517641371
>Why has russia failed so catastrophically?
Capitalist mode of production is impropriete for Russia as well as for other countries in ХХI century
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>>517643113
There are officialy 140 million people living(more like 90 mil if we are talking for real) here and most of them have access to the internet. I am just having a break at work and shitposting on companies time
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>>517641371
Oh yeah, they fucked up so hard that Poland's next lol
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>>517643652
I dont really give a shit. The post contains blatant lies and subhuman perspectives. The ip/flag doesnt even matter.
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>>517643761
Well, that is an entirelly different question then, no? Not caring who is behind posts is retarded. You never know when you are talking to Rabbi Shmuli and they will use pilpul and other jewish tactics to hide themselves among the group. This is why I personally think that the questing of who exactly is posting should be brought into question
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>>517643627
I don't know what's with the eastern European brothel countries but you always hide your ethnicity under foreign flags and it's time for some honesty don't you think?
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>>517643861
>Not caring who is behind posts is retarded.
Thats not the same as analyzing its content or not really caring about the flag, no?
Again, its clearly somebody who is lying, subhuman, or has an agenda. Therfor, their opinion and words are useless and they (the poster) are to be discarded.
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>>517641947
Get a load of this cope
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>>517643724
>I am just having a break at work and shitposting on companies time
It's a poor thing for your exploiter, little liberal kid. Don't you really want to increase someones profit anymore?
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>>517643915
if I upload my french id, will you admit that russia lost and that you are a worthless tranny who deserved to be stoned to death or will you move the goalpost?
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>>517643915
>I don't know what's with the eastern European brothel countries
You need to stop projecting your insecurities unto others, anon.
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>>517643439
greetings sir, i am from rossiya, kremlin
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>>517641371
To begin with, the country and the people are a catastrophic failure.

Don't expect scoopfuls from people who were fed with spoons
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>>517643324
99% chance he is Burgundy filth
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>>517641371
rampant corruption and surrounding himself with yes men prior to the war.
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>>517641371
>Why has russia failed so catastrophically?
The Russians themselves haven't gotten this memo.
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>>517643952
>Thats not the same as analyzing its content or not really caring about the flag, no?
No, I don't think so. How can you understand who is posting without analyzing what was posted.
Flags now mean nothing, i think. What does flag matter if you can just use VPN at any time you want. Actually understanding what type of person is posting is way more accurate.
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>>517641371
KGB state failed on it's own field, all intel was wrong, psyops failed, bribing local big shots failed, everything fucking failed.

This is the root cause that led to failed military strategy, wrong use of troops, using too little troops etc.

Military failure then again led to NATO expansion, Western solidified support for Ukraine, even more sanctions etc..

This again led to Russia's "near abroad" to ditch them, from Armenia to Kazakshtan.

Weakened Russia couldn't protect their interest in Syria nor Iran. Economically they became vassal state of China, at their own cost!

Russia has wastes north of $300B to direct war related cost in just little over 3 years. Russia's total taxable income was $200B in 2019 (pre-covid and war). Imagine that, in 3.5 years of war they have used 1.5 years of all state income to tanks and meatwaves.

This is greatest strategic fuck up of all times.
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>>517641447
Non-whites are cancer.
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>>517643967
Who cares? I don't even think that the CEO cares, he hires Indians. I don't work for the Russian company at the moment
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>>517641371
>>517641431
>Day 4,192 of the "48-hour Anti-Terrorism Operation" against unarmed miners in the Donbass
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>>517646063
russia lost to this
just lmao
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>>517646063

"Unarmed miners" converting their mining tools and excavating machines into Pantsirs and T-72. Is that the famous russian smekalka?
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>>517646063
>unarmed miners can use modern military equipment that spawned out of thin air
kek
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>>517646214
why does your map start in march 2022 and not jan 2022?
hell, dec 2013 even
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>>517647105
why december 2013? Russia didn't invade ukraine back then, it was separatists and russians in vacations.
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>>517647105
the war actually started in feb 2022, not jan and most of the russian gains came in march, due to mobilization, its more comparing the overall progress since the full scale invasion
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>>517647538
>Russia didn't invade ukraine back then
correct, so the two sides should show situation before and after, that's the point
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>>517647611
>the war actually started in feb 2022
sure, feb 1st 2022
id like to see that map
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>>517647611
>due to mobilization
the only mobilization here has happened in sep 2022
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>>517641947
>India and Afrika
saaarrrr russia thank you saaaarrrsss for wepon sale
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he been psyoping american teenage boys for 10+ years about being a very strong leader of a country full of strong men
now for 3 years he is stuck fighting against a much smaller country and is collapsing
lmao
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what did Russians hit now in oinkraine that nafoids are seething rn
Their copium storage ?
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>>517647666
>sure, feb 1st 2022
it was the 24th bro
lmao
regardless, it seems like maps for those dates werent as common, it was pretty much confusion and chaos
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>>517647813
can you deboonk the map?
or are you just seething?
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>>517641371
>Why has russia failed so catastrophically?

"failed" according to WHO?
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>>517644418
Tell me the sky is blue too
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>>517647882
oy vey
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>>517647006
get the fuck out of my country, Ivan
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>>517647882
according to putin's own objectives
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>>517647923
are you unable to understand irony?
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>>517647819
>it seems like maps for those dates werent as common
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>>517647937
>according to putin's own objectives
what are those?
easily searched
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>>517641371
>Yeah they fucked my ass mercilessly for years on end but you should see their cocks! They got shit all over!
Ukrainians probably
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>>517648274
denazification (whatever that means)
demilitarization
ukraine relinquishing 4 oblasts (russia doesn't want land according to lavrov)
neutrality

that's the official ones of course, and none of them have been achieved.
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>>517648434
>denazification (whatever that means)
that means that Azov cemetery is evergrowing and volunteers stream has all but dried up in ukranda
ppl don't seem to be eager to defend the saloreich anymore, so that's a start
come the war's end that would mean repeal of certain laws and adopting some new ones with regard to Russians in ukranda
>demilitarization
all in Istambul draft: limiting the size of ukranda's military
this one works even w/o peace accords, as Russian government often says, that it is open to resolving this situation either with peacful or military options. unless hohols surrender, it's gonna be the military one
>ukraine relinquishing 4 oblasts (russia doesn't want land according to lavrov)
correct, it wants people who live on said land, so basically the entirety of Donetsk oblast belongs to DPR people
ukrandians can either retreat and end it or keep going, they seem to like option two - so be it
>neutrality
correct, constitution and all that. Zele keeps telling that this will have to be ratified in a referendum, so this one can be resolved only after the war ends. its okay, not like anyone he is in any hurry

most of said goals can only be achieved after hohol surrender. they don't seem to like it, so here we are, to make them like it
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>>517648757
>most of said goals can only be achieved after hohol surrender. they don't seem to like it, so here we are, to make them like it
two more weeks!
>captcha:GOYHS
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>>517648846
>two more weeks!
time isnt a factor here, tho: ukranda is bound to run out of either men or metal at some point
my guess is on the men
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>>517643693
More like general corruption (the minister of defense got fired by Putin for denouncing that)
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>>517648939
>time isnt a factor here
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>>517641431
>taken out of context clips
ynbaw
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>>517649299
yes yes, out of missiles and such
>Russian economy is in tatters, ruble is rubble
care to guess the speaker and approximate time?
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>>517648846
so?
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>>517641431
thats a hohol
lmao do they even pay you
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>>517641947
lol I bet you even truly believe that.
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>>517649423
and?
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>>517649403
why are you discrediting the governor of the central bank of russia?
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>>517649614
i am not tho, how am i discrediting her?
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>>517649654
by deflecting as if her words meant nothing
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>>517641371
I'd call Operation Total Slav Death pretty successful, now the war just needs to go on for a couple more years until those shitstains are gone
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>>517649703
what do you think she said?
pls use your own words and be precise
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>>517641371
Russia ceased to exist in 1917. Its old money, aristocracy, social structure, intellectual elite, ethnic core were destroyed. Since then it's been a militarized Brazil, a crypto-colonial golem that would pathetically job in a war like the Winter one, if needed, and then, despite everything, defeat a European superpower, if needed, and would later collapse into 15 states without a single shot, if needed.
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>517649581
they dont pay you for being such a low qual shill
sucks to be (You)
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>>517649915
>crypto-colonial
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>>517641371
I keep thinking it's because Russia intentionally sabotaged their own situation because they realized a slow grind could eliminate all of Europe's warfighting capacity, and force Russia and China to deepen ties.

But then I look at how fucking stupid the Russian generals were throughout this. Still though they had Kiev within the first what 2nd or 3rd DAY of the conflict? and then they... left? should have sacked the city and decapitated the leadership immediately. would have been a 1 week operation, and would have saved millions of lives on both sides.
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>>517649855
i have no idea
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>>517650039
putin is using old soviet magic to play chess in dimensions we can't even comprehend
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>>517642595
hahahaahaha turned off your VPN, zigger? HAHAHAHAHAA
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>>517650047
well then, allow me to put that quote in full
>We have been growing at
>a record pace for two years
during the war and "sanctioned to Hell", mind you
>due to the fact that free resources have been used: unemployment is now minimal, existing production facilities have been used, and
>import substitution has played a huge role.
>In addition, the resources of the NWF, which were spent on investments, helped, and the capital reserve of the banking system was used, which served as the basis for rapid growth.
>However, now many of these resources have been exhausted and we need to think about a new growth model to keep the extraordinary pace we've picked up
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>>517650118
I don't think so, but they would have to be colossally retarded (which they are not) to have not sacked Kiev when they were there.

the only other thing I can think of was that some backchannel message from the US went straight to Moscow saying something like we will nuke or snipe you immediately unless you withdraw fro Kiev NOW
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>>517641371
Just 2 more years.
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>>517650209
I don't think they ever were there
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>>517650175
why are you putting words in her mouth?
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>>517642264
Bad English is what often outs Russians with VPNs. They really don't send their best do they?
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>>517650295
that's her words
granted, i used her transcript, but whaddaya know
i was there during the panel session
i come to SPIEF every year (except for the one in 2018)
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>>517641947
>Raise all taxes and transfer them to the top 10% of countries with the highest taxes in the world.
>Gasoline problems and rising prices within the country, which drives up the prices of all goods due to logistics.
>Introduce the highest taxes on new cars, so that terrible chinese cars now cost $50,000 and up, while in China they cost less than $10,000.
>Introduce year-round conscription to force and deceive meat into the front lines.
Should I continue listing the news from the last two weeks?
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>>517650375
i don't doubt that a single second. Please let me know when the victory parade in pokrovsk is scheduled.
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>>517641371
From Putin's point of view he hasn't. It may be a meat grinder, but Russian lives exist to be expended to achieve his personal ambitions.
He doesn't care how many Russian slaves die, as long as he slowly moves towards achieving his goal.
>>517642595
No Australian would ever use "Afrika" as a stylistic choice. It's "Africa" in Australia. Nothing else
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>>517650495
>i don't doubt that a single second
you are free to google her speech yourself ykno
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>>517644179
You should zoom even more, we can't see shit.
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>>517650463
o здopoвo жaдниггa
нacoбиpaл yжe бyтылoк нa билeт дo Tбилиcи?
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>>517641947
This. The war gave Russia the much needed push to tell the west to fuck off and fully join the anti-western block. Before that they alternated too much and were still semi-dependent on the west.
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>>517650534
no, i trust you, I am now simply waiting for oinkraine to surrender. It's inevitable since russia economy is in better shape than ever while ukraine is ruined (they don't know it yet). Any ETA?
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>>517650047
>>517650495
>>517650534
come to think of it: do you often post stuff on the internet that just "feels" right w/o ever researching its validity on your own?
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>>517650548
Кaк пoгoдa в питepe? Кcтaти, чтo бyдeшь дeлaть кoгдa лaхтy-бaшню pacхyяpят? Baм тo cклaд нaшли, гдe cидeть бyдeтe paccкaзывaть пpo вeличиe paиcи?
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>>517650608
>no, i trust you
cool!
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>>517650523
>may be a meat grinder
Retard faggot talking point
The beach at Normandy was a meatgrinder
Only NATO uses these tactics

3.5 years and zero vids
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>>517650647
>Кaк пoгoдa в питepe?
тeбe чё, 169, дeд? Лaхтy ж дaвнo зaкpыли, ты пoдшивки TBPэйн зa 2016 гoд читaeшь y ceбя в пoдвaлe или чтo?
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>>517650713
Ужe зaкpыли? Taк ee тo и нe былo. Дaвнo мeтoдичкy пepeпиcaли?
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>>517641371
>Why has russia failed so catastrophically?
Putin intentionally cripples his own military by not giving them enough trucks and other motorized supply vehicles. They rely completely on supply coming in through rail. He does this on purpose, to make coups less likely. Can you guess which military entity DID have access to plenty of supply trucks? Remember Wagner?

Also Putin's governing model is basically to intentionally promote corrupt people. Corrupt people he can trust to be corrupt and he always has an excuse to go against them. But of course this created a really corrupt society, where nothing works as it should. But that's a feature not a bug.
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>>517650278
well, they knew how effective blitzkreig was, and they lived through the siege of leningrad, so I assume they knew that the best thing they could have done would have been to immediately take control of Kiev and remove the leadership, because, after all, they were right there
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>>517650702
You're simply too retarded to argue with if you don't think the war is a meatgrinder. Hundreds of thousands of lives lost on both sides and three years passed with only a quarter of the country taken and no end in sight.
Please don't bother me with your emotional, knee jerk, double digit IQ responses
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>>517650786
>Ужe зaкpыли
c пoдключeниeм, дeдyля
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>>517650713
Кcтaти, лaхтюш, ты зa пoвышeниe нaлoгoв тo пoяcни. Кaк тoлькo выигpывaть тeпepь? Чтo y вac тaм нaпиcaнo в бyклeтe?
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>>517650868
o пoшли дaбл peплaи, "я eщe нe дoгoвopилa!"
>Кcтaти
пpинял тaблeтки и вcпoмнил или ycпoкoил тpeмop и cмoг yдepжaть пaльцы нa клaвe?
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>>517650831
My understanding of the event is that ukranians fought back harder than russia expected and by the time they got reinforcements a day or 2 later, westoid aid had arrived
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>>517650209
>unless you withdraw fro Kiev NOW
The SVD units that spearheaded the assault on Kiev simply didn't receive reinforcements quick enough at the airport they took. It was Russian logistical incompetence that prevented the initial attack on Kiev from succeeding. A pattern that their officer corps has displayed since at least Afghanistan
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>>517650971
VDV*
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>>517650845
So why are there no vids? You troon shills are pathetic. Forces are 50 miles apart using artillery 90% of the time. They send small groups to spot targets (and those are the only videos you faggots have).
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>>517650955
Пo cyщecтвy ecть чтo cкaзaть, или мeтoдичкy нe пoдвeзли oпять? Hy ты coчини хoть чтo-тo, вce paвнo пиндocы нe пoймyт, кypaтop нe нaкaжeт нaвepнo
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>>517650644
no, like I said I fully believe you. Russians are extremely trustworthy after all.
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What do you mean?

Putin has successfully decimated Ukrainian Nazi forces with Special Military Operation.
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>>517650971
They never "took" the airport. They took out thier airforce and runway then escaped unharmed.
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>>517650039
They did achieve their goal in those 3 days. Zelensky signed a piece traty granting luhansk and donetsk full autonomy and making russian language a second official in the country.
But their underestimated the stupidity of zelensky. Boris johnson came and covibced him that he can defeat russia lile some croatia defeating serbs. The rest is history.
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>>517651058
>Пo cyщecтвy ecть чтo cкaзaть
тaк я тeбя yжe cпpocил, вoт, ждy >>517650548
хм, интepecнo, кcтaти, чтo ви вoпгocoм нa вoпгoc oтвeтили, хм хм хм
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>>517651029
People have been posting drone surveillance from both sides since the war started. Are you suggesting that the official numbers are so off that there's in reality very few deaths? Or do you expect their to be video footage of almost every single death during the war to corroborate the official estimates from both sides?
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>>517651078
that's not Nabiulina speech tho, what does it has to do with your given qoute?
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>>517651078
You left out where kiev started the war by shelling the DPR/LPR on Feb 19th.
Pretty big fact to leave out, faggot
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>>517651097
>They took out thier airforce and runway then escaped unharmed.
Oh, you're literally delusional. Best of luck with your undiagnosed learning disability.
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>>517644179
>7 months
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>>517650970
>>517650971
I've heard this as well, but damn it just seems so incompetent that it really boggles the noggin. and ofc Kiev wasn't going to roll over like Crimea, which is primarily ethnically russian
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>>517651141
Извини, я твoй yзбeкcкий инoгдa нe пoнимaю. Hy я yжe вce пoнял пpo тeбя, чмoня лaхтoпидopcкaя
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>>517651157
Bullshit
Videos of 12 guys getting killed is not a meatwave faggot. Its not Omaha Beach
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>>517651223
>yзбeкcкий
100% дeд лмaoooooooooooooooo
cлышь нy pил, тeбe cкoлькo, зa 40?
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>FSG9SkHm
Look how a hired Lakhta works for my taxes. And a very stupid one at that.
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>>517651187
>boooo stop fighting back
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>>517651195
So you are denying special forces came in on helicopters and blew up planes and the runway?
A simple search will prove you are a lying cocksucker
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Imagine if after nearly 4 years of full scale war we had only captured less than 20% of Iraq and said we haven't taken the gloves off yet lmao
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>>517651311
So you are saying the U.N. report was Russian disinformation?
Delusional nafo troons suck at propaganda
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>>517651310
>for my taxes
i have no doubt that you pay inconsequential amount of taxes if any lmao
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>>517651388
>nafo nafo nafo nafo
you lost, you will become even more of a shithole and your tsar will blow his brain off in his doomsday bunker
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>>517651363
NATO killed more civillians in Iraq in one month than Russia has killed in 3.5 years.
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>>517641431
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> another thread full of retards thinking russia exists
sad
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>>517651430
>you lost
if your sourcing game is on the same level as your predictive one...
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>>517651430
>everyone who tells the truth is secretly a russian!
Doesnt that make them the good guys?
Not one of you discord tranny faggots have been able to argue with my facts
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>>517641371
RUSSIA IS WINNING!!!!
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>>517651459
I expect that’s not true at all and you mean casualties in iraq mostly killed by terrorists.
Since nato has never been at war in iraq the number is zero for the retard shite you are babbling you stinky rapist cretin.
Also note nato is not at war with russia. Russia has been stuffed by ukraine.
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>>517642618
I mean he’s not wrong about what he said though if it was machine translated it wouldn’t have been spelled it Afrika
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>>517651496
when is the victory parade scheduled?
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>>517641371
>failed
Distractions will escalate until The Event occurs
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>>517651657
it isnt yet
im sure youll hear about it even in france
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>>517651559
>nafo nafo nafo nafo
>tranny tranny tranny tranny
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>>517647856
The map is fine, Russia is advancing non stop, and Ukranians keep lowering the age of draft, slow roll to the grave for Ukraine
See you in 2028
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>>517651078
right before the SMO, the hohols breached yet another agreement with ruzzia, and dramatically increased their attacks on civvies in donbass. ruzzians and Putin lie about shit, but Lavrov doesn't like to lie in public. I really think that even though they had plans for an invasion if necessary, that it was the rhetoric and buildup from the US and NATO (not to mention increaed oppressive laws like the language laws and killing of ukranian citizen ethnic russians within ukraine in the months leading up) which sufficiently provoked Putin into going with the invasion plan.

you're selectively leaving all of this out of the picture. and if you go further back to the color revolution maidan, all the corruption and money laundering in ukraine, language laws, breaching of the minsk agreements, backing out of istanbul accords/discussions... all of these things were done by ukraine and the west to provoke russia. that's why the tanks were moved to the border in the first place. you can't negate the past 15 years of increasing tensions, largely done by the west. and you can go all the way back to the end of the cold war to see how much the west has been fucking with russia, including with NATO's continued expansion eastward, and the refusal of europe as a whole to involve russia in a post-WWII, and post-cold war, framework.
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>>517651459
Well I can’t refute this. You win. Outstanding job. Now I love Russia. Take notes you NATO degenerates that’s how you win hearts and minds.
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>>517641947
If copium was a resource, Putin would have alteady won the war.
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>>517651459
>NATO in Iraq
What a strange thing for an american flag to say
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>>517651733
pic >>517651723
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>>517651459
>military failure
>but you killed people
Answer the actual question faggot.
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>>517651101
the rejection of the instanbul communique was prior to the SMO by about two weeks, yes boris is a ghoul, and jewlenzzki is even more of a ghoul.
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>>517641947
Yeah sending prisoners to die is straight up mad max for me. You want freedom? Fight for mother russia. It's literally fight your way out of gulag lmao.
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>>517651871
>the SMO
not even making an effort, john from texas oblast
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>>517651782
filtered, NAFOtroon, you only regurgitate the same bullshit, not even worth discussing things
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>>517651731
>The map is fine
Depends on how you define "fine"
Fine in the sense that they're slowly achieving their goal? Yes
Fine in the sense that their loss in human life is worth the current gains? No.
Unless you're Putin, in which case the value of Russian life is so low as to be worthless outside of achieving his goals
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>>517651187
>It's another "Ukraine was shelling Donbabwe for 8 years" argument
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>>517651936
>SMO
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>>517651871
>SMO
kill yourself FSB shill
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>>517651969
not even lavrov can manage the script
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>>517651733
All I know is Ukraine is run by a Jew. Don't need to see anything else and don't care about any other factors. I know anyone supports that like zelensky doesn't belong here .
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>>517651961
They lost 200k churka volunteers, and gain 10 million pop, plus the land, plus pushing NATO out of their soft belly, plus the resources of that land, plus the autarchy
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>>517652015
Just don't look up what Putin thinks about Israel or jews
Slavs are the original golems, and if you think there is some kind of anti-Israel/jew side in this conflict, you better get a less schizophrenic worldview
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>>517652015
not wrong. nafotards also ruined /k/
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>>517652110
nothing says pushing nato out like having even more borders with nato
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>>517652124
>Israel is almost a Russian-speaking country
-Putin
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>>517651969
Didn't OCDE literally said that hylhyls killed 14.000 civilians in donbass for lolz
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>>517652185
kek there's a reason for that
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>>517652167
What will Finland do?
Cuck out like they cucked out in the 40s?
KEK
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>>517652185
you don't get it, russia has a good jews while ukraine has the bad jews, just like the west is invaded by the bad muslims while russia has the good muslims
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>>517641947
Is that what you tell yourself. A series of hilarious lies? Each one diametrically opposed to reality. Hilarious.
>a few thousand
How many? The number hit a million last june. Including ALL of russias professional army dead, black sea fleet sunk and a good portion of it’s airforce.
>economic blah blah
Russia’s in economic collapse and has just experienced crop failure. Most people there live in horror film post soviet poverty as it is. Putin just seized another third of a trillion dollars worth of russian businesses for himself.
>china
…hates russia. Poo is your only friend. Lucky you.
>the EU and US
aren’t split who told you that, troon brain. They are ganging up nicely.
>tech boom
There is no boom in russia. They even have an energy crisis now. The coal powered fighter plane is the next step there. As for tech russia is the only country without AI. By tech boom you mean 10% of russians can now use the internet, the internet which is banned by the kremlin.
Face reality.
I told you what was going to happen all along but look at you mindbending like a hypertroon
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>>517652110
The majority of Russian forces aren't central Asian. Churkas only account for a minority of combatants.
Nothing else you said has any relevance. I already stated that I understand that hundreds of thousands of dead Russians is worth it for Putin. Did you consider if what you were typing even constituted a retort before typing it?
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>>517652239
concession accepted
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>>517652222
>Russian jews control israel
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>>517652201
That's 14,000 total on all sides and that figure includes the 300 dead from the civilian airliner that Russia shot down
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>>517641371
Meatwave tactics don’t work, but it’s the only benefit Ziggers have.
>>517641447
I would agree with you but it’s predominantly people from the poorer eastern Russian regions who aren’t ethnically russian who get sent to the frontline meatgrinder.
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>>517652296
you have to prove that you are a jew to get into pissrael
so anyone who emigrates there isn't Russian, 2+2
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Steven Zaloga wrote a book 40 years ago about it. In short: Russia (Soviet Union) is basically a zerg rush tactic and NATO/HATO is a high quality and tech superiority. He anticipated 1-17-like ratio in 1980s. I could not belive it then but now? He was absolutely right.
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>>517648246
comical
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>>517652292
Are you geriatric fags pulling that Barbarossa again and having the finns cuck out for 50 years again, i take, that was your master plan all along!
LUL
>>517652276
>It's le not relevant because muh fee fees
Kekraine and nato can't make some pesky churkas with shovels and donkeys (according to themselves) retreat an inch from dumbass, cope and seethe forever
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>>517641371
Russia made 2 major mistakes. The first was not invading in 2014. The second was having a shitty air force.
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>>517652751
m hm
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>>517652751
>We wuz Jews n sheeeeit
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>>517651723
same analysis as kikes who try to shame for being racist
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>>517651969
So the UN report was Russian disinformation?
Thats the best you got faggot?
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>>517652462
It's not relevant because it doesn't contradict anything I said. Russia will eventually win by attrition because Russian lives are worthless to the Russian government, so any amount expended is acceptable to them. However, it doesn't constitute a competent military campaign.
>pesky churkas
I already made it clear that the majority of Russian losses aren't Chrukas, they're Russian. The fact that you can repeat obvious lies even after being corrected suggests that your IQ is below 100. Mindlessly repeating oneself is the default state of animals
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>>517651467
That corpse has better teeth than you do, Nigel.
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>>517651627
At least 400,000 civillians were killed in Iraq, faggot. It was literally called "SHOCK AND AWE". They bombed the shit out of every town and steamrolled through. Zero evacuation notices. How could civillians NOT be slaughtered?
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>>517652462
>finns cuck out for 50 years again
Big words from the guy who got cucked by the UK after having Falklands taken away from them
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>>517652590
they also trusted the west far too much in post-WWII years.

but in general, you are correct. Russia also failed to sufficiently diversify its economy during the cold war. failure to go hard into semiconductors like what korea, japan, and taiwan did, was a mistake. too much of the economy was (and still is) structured around resource extraction and export, which is a pretty dumb way to structure an economy for long term stability.

if Putin didn't have sufficient armed forces for a full scale invasion in 2014, he should have waited a year or two, then indeed done it all in one fell swoop, rather than Crimea + separatist regions.

desu Russia should have crushed Maidan in the first place. That was the tiananmen moment, and Russia failed to stop it. needed to crush the western instigators once and for all, but they sat back and watch Yanukovych get rekt.
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>>517651851
What question tranny faggot?
All I see are retarded nafo troon discord talking points
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>>517652250
A bazzilion dead! 14 to 1.
Is BBC your only source of information?
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>>517653058
Nigger, the Ukranians themselves showed how every Russian they captured were churka, the most ebin footage of the war is a churka mongol knifing down a much taller Ukranian dude in CQC
The russians offer a juicy contract for poor churkas and their families and at the same time Ukranians have to run around snatching people for their ever dwindling numbers, deal with it, Muscovites and people of Petrograd are chilling while Churkas are dying, showing yet once more that you can't fight wars without having poor people, the hungrier the fucker the harder the fight
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>>517641371
>Why has russia failed so catastrophically?
Oh, you do not understand. Winning the war was never Putin's goal. He was having domestic problems and was about to get booted out. Starting this war allowed him to deal with all political opposition at home.
>Navalny... dead
>any oligarch that did not bow... dead
>political allies that spoke against Putin... dead
Netanyahu did the same thing. Was about to go to prison but then he started a war with Palestine. Surely i am not the only one who is seeing the pattern.
>b-but Russia is now worse off
Putin does not care, he is neither dead nor in prison. He rules over Russia and hides in his bunker palace. North Korea 2.0.
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>>517653232
The falklands were taken from Spain, my ignorant abofren
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>>517652979
Traditionally, in our region, every racist in one way or another is working for Leningrad secret service. Doesn’t matter which time period. FSB, KGB, Czar’s OKHRANA and so forth.
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>>517649391
3-day special military operation, btw.
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>>517641371
Because it's a corrupt shithole. It's a 3rd world country by any means, such country cannot be successful in large scale operations
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>>517641371
They’re doing ok honestly
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>>517653472
Shout out to racially aware Finns and Swedes.
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>>517653385
No, they were taken from you, bitch
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>>517649391
This is a big cope lmaooo
But go ahead what is the proper context
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>>517653239
>should have crushed Maidan in the first place
This was surprising to me as well. The ex KGB president of the former USSR allows a bordering puppet state to have a pro NATO coup just sounds odd. Maybe he just never thought it would actually happen.
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>>517653317
Every commentator pro and anti russia, Poo.
*except poo.
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>>517651731
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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>>517653780
you're lying to yourself or retarded
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>>517652462
>claim nato was pushed out
>get proven wrong
>seethe
many such case
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>>517654321
>Can't read
>Be proud
Good job Nappy jr.
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>>517654377
I already accepted your concession. Proceed with your seething.
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>>517641371
What's going on at the front, what strategically useless fortress city got taken over now? There's like 5 russophobic NAFO threads on the front page.
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>>517641371
>russia failed
March 2022 a few thousand dead hohols
August 2025 1.8M dead hohols...
And you cretins still think success in a war is measured by taken territory...absolutely hilarous.
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>>517641371
reminder that West lost WW3 and turned out to be complete joke
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>>517654622
>1.8M dead hohols
You're seriously telling me Russians killed this many and still can't advance on the battlefield?
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>>517641947
>send a few thousand gopniks to die
You need your serfs and it only worsened the brain drain in Russia
>sanctions successfully contest the global dominance of the USD allowing CIPS and other non-SWIFT to thrive
BRICsnigger shit will never thrive
>open up a fuckload of new markets in India and Afrika and export more than ever
These are bad second rate deals, what they had was better
>frustrate the Belt and Road and keep China dependant
Russia is now China's bitch and getting financially ripped off by the Chinese
>solidify the EU's split from the USA
The pendulum will just swing the other way again as it always does, Americans are already sick of MIGA pedophilia
>massive tech boom in Russia, hackers to drones to weapons
Ukraine and the west benefits from the same, China is selling drone parts to both sides, Xi Jinping is the winner
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>>517654854
Yes, this is exactly what my (((fellow hungarian))) is trying to say.
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>>517654112
Yea I think it's more of that continuing optimism where Russia just wants to be accepted by the rest of Europe and the West. but now they know it will never happen. ffs we didn't even send a high level official to the Victory Day celebrations on the 80th year of ending WWII in Europe. just horrible.

and Russia smartened up when it came to crushing the uprising in Kazakhstan under the CSTO agreement.
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>>517654531
projection
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>>517654854
There is a reason why you find this unfathomable...during 2003, Iraq barely put up any resistance to you and your forces advanced on Bagdad in a few weeks, and occupied the entire country, cz barely anyone resisted.
Hence why you seem to think everyone else is like that. No, hohols had 8 years to construct defenses, systems and networks of bunkers, trenches, stuff like that in Ukraine and they did.
They still do it behind their lines as Russia is advancing slowly.
1.8M in a nation of 40M about 20M of them men, at around 5-8M of them fit for military service....Yes, there are plenty of cannon fodder left in Ukraine, even though the TCC has a tough time catching it.
Another thing is Russia doesn't like losing more soldiers then necessary....Putin (contrary to many millions of morons in the West) is not Stalin who sends meat wave assaults to take worthless territory. And to avoide high losses, they NEED to go slow with all the drones and all the weapons and most of all, the live INTEL the US is giving to Ukraine. How much harder do you think it is to advance on the battlefield, when your opponent is given live intel 24/h by the biggest intel gathering apparatus on the planet?
Also, Russia doesn't give a shit about how much time it costs. They will get it done in 1-5-10-50 years if need be. They aren't like Western pussies who can't live beyond 5 minutes withoug smartphones and Facebook, TikTok etc.
And last, but by no means least....Russias are advancing slowly cz....they are essentially fighting russians. Yes, they call themselves ukranians, but the so called Ukraine is nothing more than fiction. They are russian, they speak russian, they are tough like russians.

You are seriously telling me, that all these things I wrote down don't make sense and sound logical?
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I have a hard time believing either side ever thought "winning" was realistic. I think chabad and their blackmailed intelligence slaves just want to test out their new drone and surveillance tech while killing off as many slavs in the region as they can before they build a new Israel in Ukraine for ashkenazi orthodox jews only. They consider that their holy land, since they are Frankists and Sabbateans, and never cared much about that strip of the Levant they get to occupy now.
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>>517650039
>I keep thinking it's because Russia intentionally sabotaged their own situation because they realized a slow grind could eliminate all of Europe's warfighting capacity, and force Russia and China to deepen ties.

This is a fun idea but Russia always for years wanted to avoid getting too close to China and only did so reluctantly, and nothing would be better for Putin than an actual victory. He doesn't need to take on all of Europe and he knows Europe doesn't really want to invade Russia, he needs the easy victories to keep his own people settled and happy and think he is tough and a good leader

>But then I look at how fucking stupid the Russian generals were throughout this. Still though they had Kiev within the first what 2nd or 3rd DAY of the conflict? and then they... left? should have sacked the city and decapitated the leadership immediately. would have been a 1 week operation, and would have saved millions of lives on both sides.

Russian generals are meant to be loyal, not smart. The only smart guys were Wagner group and that was because they weren't technically military they were mercs niggering in Africa for loot and Russia interference. They got sent in as a last resort because the actual military was too retarded to take Bakhmut, and that resulted in a near coup (to be fair that is possibly because Putin got jealous and afraid of Prigozhin and probably tried to preemptively bomb/assassinate him first)
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>>517641371
if anyone actually helped ukraine instead of dealing money this would've been over years ago. isn't this faggot calling up 150k kids to die soon?
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im starting to think putin is doing this on purpose to accelerate russian civil war, the country is beyond corrupt and they have 0 chance of developing like the rest of the world, even he cant do anything to the corruption other than sack people here and there cuz its so insanely wide spread, maybe thats what he means by saving russia with this shit lul, turning life into such miserable experience for the common folk even they revolt after 100 ywars of brainwashing
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>>517646063
at least they have it right. Hitler sent them for experiments instead of the front lines
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They’ve been advancing, you just never hear about it because every time Ukraine loses territory they deny it, then when they can’t deny it anymore they’ll say that territory doesn’t matter. From Russias perspective the speed of the conflict is irrelevant, every day the war goes on the situation for Ukraine worsens. Oh but sorry Russia is losing because…uhhh this drone footage of a dude dying.

The irony is Ukraine and their simps accuse Russia of using human wave attacks constantly but there’s literally zero evidence of this, but there IS plenty of evidence of Ukraine doing this. Russia doesn’t do any sort of forced conscription but in Ukraine they grab any man they see off the streets, this has been documented hundreds of times. During the last body exchange Ukraine couldn’t even come up with 100 corpses but Russia had thousands on ice ready to go. Does that mean the 1.7 million figure is accurate? If we consider that Ukraine also has hundreds of thousands of deserters, something they readily admit, then yes it’s likely accurate. The number is both KIA and MIA, so it likely also includes people who are AWOL.
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>>517641371
Your March 2022 pic is LIES.
That's all.
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>>517641371
Putin drank his own kool-aid
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>ox cart of shit
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>>517656175
lol cope
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>>517656255
What is this video supposed to even show? There’s no context, no source, and nothing identifiable at all. I remember someone posted videos of some Tajiks getting arrested and then said it was people getting drafted, then when the actual source for the video was posted they ditched the thread.
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>>517656446
it's a bunch of ukrainian sent to the meat grinder
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>>517655477
to you first point, I know that the USSR and PRC have had rocky relations, at best, over the course of their histories, especially since the sino-soviet split. but that's why I think it's interesting to think that if Putin were a 35 dimensional backgammon player, that this war would be a way to force China into extending credit lines beyond what BRICS already has done, and including perhaps the addition of some tech transfers into Russia to jump-start their economy and give cause for delinking from the EU/West. as for the EU not wanting to invade russia, that's the only thing I would push back on in your statement, because it has been clear since even the times of faggot Gorby that the EU does not want any amicable framework with Russia, and wants to decapitate all Russian leadership (the supreme soviet's demise wasn't enough for them) and install the equivalent of a Brussels in SPB (while making Moscow irrelevant).

to your part about the loyalty versus smart and stuff about Wagner, agree. I think Prigo did want what was for the best for russia in a way, even though he was a merc. he fucked up by flirting with the CIA though and for not "playing politics" when it came to his statements on Gerasimov and Shoigu. he of all people should have realized that you can't be too passionate in war. his men were dying by the incompetence of the people above him, but in marching on Moscow (AND THEN TURNING BACK?!), the war continued for years. maybe if Prigo kept his mouth shut, a few months later he would have been given the proper support to have achieved victory over Kiev. or as you say, maybe Putin had plans to have him die in combat from the beginning, then realized he was actually competent, and then ordered Shoigu and Gerasimov to pull his support, and provoked him into getting pissed and marching on Moscow. there's so much intrigue within their system.
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>>517652352
>people from the poorer eastern Russian regions who aren’t ethnically russian who get sent to the frontline meatgrinder.
these are ethnic russians, don't be racist. russians have always been a mongol race. the white ones living west of the urals are actually ethnically ukrainian.
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>>517654971
>BRICsnigger shit will never thrive
2/3rds of the worlds populatiom is in BRICS now faggot shill.
80% of the world's nations backed Russia during the UN vote last week.
Cope and seethe
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seethe trannies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1biVEfc5Aw
lmao
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>>517656589
Well, here’s how i see it. You already got caught lying earlier and called out for it, so right off the bat I have very little reason to take you at your word. You want to convince me that Russia is drafting people enmasse despite there being no videos of people getting grabbed off the streets, and the way you hope to achieve this is random videos posted on Ukrainian telegram channels. You’re gonna have to try harder than this, at least give me an article I can read instead of this garbage.
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>>517656873
>You already got caught lying earlier
where?
>at least give me an article I can read instead of this garbage.
>don't show me videos, show me an article
let me fetch a RT article real quick
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>>517654971
>Americans are already sick of MIGA pedophilia
get a load of this covid camp refugee. gets all his news and commentary from 4chan yet is too obtuse to realize the anti-Trump shilling here is coming from trooncord brigades. real americans are much more sick of leftist trash. no one that voted for Trump would ever vote for an AOC or a Newsom or some faggot like Bootyjuice.
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>>517654622
>August 2025 1.8M dead hohols...
this didn't happen. if it did there would be 3 million dead russians.
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>>517657222
why ?
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>>517657092

Here
>>517649299

And the actual quote
>>517650175
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>>517657336
Because Ukraine is winning and anything that runs contrary to this must be wrong because Ukraine is winning.
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>>517657807
are you mentally retarded you fucking nigger? "time isn't a factor" was quoted from the anon I replied to, and I linked the webm of nabiulina talking about the state of the russian economy as a reponse to that. No where did I say that I quoted nabiulina lmao. Delete your post in fucking shame you smelly subhuman jeet.
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>>517657952
>gets caught lying
>drops his smug demeanor and immediately turns to anger

Interesting
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>>517641371
Only 1 million more casualties and they'll take the gloves off, guys!
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>>517658096
>can't quote me lying
>double down in embarrassment
I accept your concession
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>>517658135
Denial isn’t going to change anything, you got caught and now you’re freaking out because I noticed and pointed it out.
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>>517651078
Here is your big lie, 40 post nafo faggot.
You left out the fact ukraine started the shelling on Feb 19th.
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>>517658335
ok, spell the lie, go ahead lmao, it's going to be easy since I lied, right? If you cannot do it then it's an admission that you are schizophrenic which I accept in advance.
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>>517658374
somehow russia moved its troops months before that
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>>517658135
How about calling the UN report on ukraining shelling on 19 Feb of the east "Russian disinformation".

Pretty big lie faggot
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Can't into air supremacy. Land army is a meme build without it.
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>>517658511
quote me calling it "Russian disinformation"
I accept your concession in advance
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>>517658459
It was mostly seperatists backed by Wagner, tranny faggot shill.
See , you cant stop lying.
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>>517658597
the russian troops at russian and belarius borders who were "training" were separatist and wagners?
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>>517658562
Right here faggot shill
>>517651311

See, you cant even keep your lies straight
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>>517641447
O SAY CAN YOU SING
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>>517658706
>can't quote me calling it "russian disinformation"
I accept your concession
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>>517658677
>training
>on the front lines
You have to be a delusional tranny
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>>517658776
belarus was the frontline?
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>>517658756
Your meme CLEARLY said that faggot shill
Everyone can read it
You are just embarrasing yourself
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>>517658857
that's not a meme you fucking zoomer, that's a description of how you subhuman pieces of shit behave every fucking second of your existence, case in point. This had nothing to do with what the UN claimed. Fucking mentally disabled cockroach.
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>>517658096
I'm still waiting for that quote rusnigg, what's up?
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>>517658997
>russian points out Ukraine is running out of resources
>you reply with a misleading screenshot
>continue to act smug when it’s pointed out the quote is incorrect
>the actual quote gets posted
>you try to pretend like this didn’t happen
>I point it out
>you instantly drop your smug persona and start raging

How about you provide me some articles now instead of posting low effort nafo memes.
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>>517658967
What lies have I told?
Tranny faggot shill

Whatever NATO is spending to pay you is too much
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>>517659588
how is that misleading? it's from that webm lmao, she says it herself as a conclusion from what they had been able to achieved
>we we able to do a bunch of things to propel growth but many of these resources have been exhausted
there is no lie or misleading, that is word for word what she said.
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>>517659588
you don't know what a meme is and you are obsessed with trannes because you are a faggot in denial like every single russians
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>TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY
>NAFO NAFO NAFO NAFO NAFO
why is it so easy to btfo ziggers?
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>>517659803
So what were you hoping to accomplish with that screenshot? Because it seems to me you were insinuating that the finance minister for Russia is claiming the country is out of resources, which is not at all what she claimed. That means you either intentionally posted a misleading quote, a lie by omission, or you don’t even bother reading the shit you post which I find hard to believe.

>>517659877
>he’s so buttmud he can’t even reply to the correct person
>he’s now resorting to posting gay porn

Broken.
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>>517659930
>becomes enraged when people call him a tranny

Interesting behavior, I wonder…
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>>517660132
>posting low effort nafo memes. >>517659588
>posting low effort nafo memes. >>517659588
>posting low effort nafo memes. >>517659588
>"wrong person"
>russian soldiers being faggots getting shilled as based and trad by /chug/ is "gay porn"

you are utterly pathetic, you are the lowest lifeform on earth
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>>517652250
>Russia’s in economic collapse and has just experienced crop failure. Most people there live in horror film post soviet poverty as it is. Putin just seized another third of a trillion dollars worth of russian businesses for himself.
Not true, Russia is in boom times. Everything else you posted in also propaganda. Its time for you to face reality.
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the eradication of every single rusnigg and their shills is a moral imperative and I am enjoying every second of it
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I still remember when this kicked off, I expected Russia to have a surrender within the week. Guess I don't know much about warfare. But it seems if the other side doesn't go all out and plays by the rules they never can win. Should've learned from US is Afghanistan and other places.
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>>517641371
weren't they preparing to leave Crimea?
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>>517660290
I didn’t mention trannies in the post you replied to, that was all you. You really should calm down, just take your L and spam your garbage in the next thread.

>>517660496
I think I understand now, you guys post these low effort “Russia is LE BAD!?!?” threads something like 30 times a day. You expected to just come in here and spam your folder like usual. Now you’re 53 posts deep in this thread and receiving pushback and it’s making you freak out. That’s how these threads usually go, you people don’t want anyone to engage with you and the second it does happen you guys either dump the thread or have a mental breakdown. You’ve completely dropped your smug persona and now you’re just seething.
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>pee pee poo poo
you lost no matter how much you /pol/ shitskins squirm
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>muh both side, muh discussion
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>you quoted nabiulina!!! that means you lied!!!!
>here's the webm, where is the lie?
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>517661717
So then what WAS your intention with that screenshot? Because far all you’re doing now is seething and having a meltdown.
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>>517661843
you called me a liar, I proved you wrong, you then felt dumb so you quadrupled down by gaslighting me over and over. eat shit.
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>>517661471
You keep pretending kiev didnt start the war by shelling Donbas 5 days before the invasion.
Its like your faggot brain is broken
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>pee pee poo poo
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>>517642786
lmfao i remember this it was the funiest shit ever. You know things are bad when your defense minister shrugs after being asked are we winning.
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>>517662487
Stop dodging.

What was your intention behind this post?
>>517649299
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>>517643529
>trade with china dropped by 9% in 2025
Oh no, it declined slightly after nearly doubling in 2022. Most likely because of lower energy prices.

https://tradingeconomics.com/china/exports/russia



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