>The Trump administration is pressuring Taiwan to rapidly move 50 percent of its chip production into the US if it wants ensured protection against a threatened Chinese invasion, US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick told NewsNation this weekend.>In the interview, Lutnick noted that Taiwan currently makes about 95 percent of chips used in smartphones and cars, as well as in critical military defense technology. >It's bad for the US, Lutnick said, that "95 percent of our chips are made 9,000 miles away," while China is not being "shy" about threats to "take" Taiwan.>Were the US to lose access to Taiwan's supply chain, the US could be defenseless as its economy takes a hit, Lutnick alleged, asking, "How are you going to get the chips here to make your drones, to make your equipment?">"The model is: if you can't make your own chips, how can you defend yourself, right?" Lutnick argued. That's why he confirmed his "objective" during his time in office is to shift US chip production from 2 percent to 40 percent.>To achieve that, he plans to bring Taiwan's "whole supply chain" into the US, a move experts have suggested could take much longer than a single presidential term to accomplish.>To close the deal with Taiwan, Lutnick suggested that the US would offer "some kind of security guarantee" so that "they can expect" that moving their supply chain into the US won't eliminate Taiwan's so-called "silicon shield," where countries like the US are willing to protect Taiwan because "we need their silicon, their chips, so badly."
>According to Lutnick, Taiwan can also be assured through the deal that the US will remain "fundamentally reliant" upon Taiwan, as the producer of the other 50 percent of chips.>However, he also claimed that if the US acquired a 50 percent market share, it would ensure that the US has "the semiconductors we need for American consumption," emphasizing that the move is intended to decrease reliance on Taiwan. >Lutnick also went on in the interview to explain how US workers would benefit from moving Taiwan's supply chain into the US, saying that another major focus of his time in office will be training workers to help the domestic semiconductor industry flourish.>"I think it will shock everybody how successful we are," Lutnick said.https://archive.is/hhYmL
I despise Lutnick but this is a serious power move and China will not be happy. Expect more warships sailing past Taipei.
>>Need tons of water to cool factories>Build in the desert>>Need sweatshop labor>Build in a country with unions and entitled retardsThere were a bunch of other reasons this was retarded and isn't going to work.
Mutt cant protect shit, they can blackmail tsmc like how they did to tiktok though.They gonna get robbed.
>>517648766Soon
>>517648872Chips are not made with sweatshop labor
taiwan is only an island if theres no chip factories
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>>517649017>Did absolutely no research not even a 5 second google lookuphttps://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/tsmc-arizona-struggles-to-overcome-vast-differences-between-taiwanese-and-us-work-culture
>>517648766lmaoyeah, bro, let me just move my factories, supply lines and workforce over to the US real quickso that you would, uhhh, defend the other 50%surely that's not you cutting your losses and abandoning my island hey, maybe your niggers can do the factory work, i mean, they can't make a sandwich without spitting in it and stealing the fries, but maybe they'll figure it outor how about your valiant defense of ukraine, they're some real winners. you'll even get them into nato, then nobody would dare declare war on them!..... right after the war they're in is over that is
>>517648766>Move 50% of chips profuction to US or lose protection.>Lose protectionOk and you lose being supplied with chips though... Who is threatening whom here.
>>517648766The thinking on the Taiwan issue is changing.US only offers ambiguity not any guarantee.Uncle Xi ever playing the long game will build its own indigenous chip industry and catch up to and maybe surpass Taiwan.Having offshored the chip manufacturing Taiwan will have real leverage. Taiwan's potential we will blow up the TSMC plants if you invade strat will be moot.Who knows if anyone will give a shit if Xi still decided to invade at that point.
>>517648766> "some kind of security guarantee"Like the nonnuclear proliferation treaty signed between Ukraine and Russia that stopped Russia from invading the now nukeless ukrainians right?Lmao Taiwan should wipe their ass of it
>>517649345>Lmao Taiwan should wipe their ass of it
>>517649507Yes. They should not give anything up that risks their security. Once the USA has the chips, and the trained workers to produce their own they serve no need doing anything with Taiwan. Infact their relationship with China would probably grow 10 fold by letting the old dragon have their island back. The defense contractors can already taste how rich they can get charging US manufacturing prices for them to the US defense budget.
>>517649952I said sweatshop labor not compensation.
>>517649952Taiwanese workers also work as if their very life depends on the outcome of their highly advanced chips with insanely high clean room restrictions that take forever to produce. You just have to look at whats happened to Boeing to see an American mindset . It's about "working smarter, not harder by doing less" and always trying to innovate new ways to cut corners in order to jack up profit margins.
>>517649095What happens when you run out of missiles, Mutt?Will Cihna pause to giv you time to build mor missiles?
>>517650187>>517650186>>517650063>>517650033>>517648766Chip factories take several years to build. USA factories won't be ready in a few years.WW3 will happen sooner than that.Before Trump admin current term ends.China factories but other hand are almost ready to produce latest gen Chips at the same quality or better than Taiwan ones.
>>517650187>>517650186>>517650063>>517650063>>517648766China factories by* other hand are almost ready to produce latest gen Chips at the same quality or better than Taiwan ones.
>>517650384>>517650471
>>517650187
>>517648766Being enemy with US is dangerous, being friends with it is Fatal.
Ice will arrest anyone to set up a factory in america though
>>517651100Care to explain the context of that JEWISH quote or are you just going to leave it out?
>>517651037Go eat your daily cow dung curry flavored fecal matter diarrhea!Filthy Pajeet memeflagggotBRICS should kick out India for good. And replace the "I" on BRICS with based Iran instead,
>>517651063The more you wait, the bigger disadvantage you will be at, Mutt.
this is why I think China and US are conspiratorI bet if taiwan chicken out and went to China, China rejects them
>>517651296>Iran hahahahhaha
>>517648766Seems pretty wise desu.
>>517651305ok, chang
>>517651391That's right Mutt. Mak Australia a target.But you will still lose.
>>517651486nobody likes chinks.
>you know the one thing that forces us to protect you no matter what we say to the public? The one thing we will never replicate no matter how much we spend on it in the next 20 years?>yeah give it to us or we won't protect you despite the fact we both know we actually do have to protect youart of the deal ladies and gentlemen
whats the big deal? just lift those dozen billion dollar factories on ship and move them to the us.
>>517651343Iran can hit Israeland overwhelm Iron dome missile defenseswhileIndia Daily subhumans shit on streets
>>517651343 #Iran can hit Israeland overwhelm Iron dome missile defenseswhileIndia benchod* Dalit* subhumans shit on streets
>>517651168The context is it is a famous quote from American, Henry Kissinger on diplomatic relations with America. He was specifically referring to the Americans attempt to rape, pillage and destitute the Vietnamese. The quote is highly apt for this thread where rumours circulate that Americans, who are mainly jewish as you correctly point out, are attempting diplomatic blackmail under veiled threats of violence if they don't give up their industries to American hawks.
>>517651626>>517651772iron dome ain't got shit on goldy
>>517651774>He was specifically referring to the Americans attempt to rape, pillage and destitute the Vietnamese.Wrong. Now post the real context or I will and you will look dumb.
>>517651604>don't worry>the negros will pick up the dev where you left off
>>517649017Yes they are. Taiwanese PHDs earn less than American Bachelor degree graduates working in the same field in America. They also work longer like slaves.
>>517648766>give us the one thing that while you hold it incentivizes us to offer you any help when push comes to shove
>>517651774>Henry KissingerAhh yes.... the same jew that helped China to grow to where it is now. You are correct, the quote is highly apt for this thread.
>>517648855Trump team is asking Taiwan to give up their main bargaining chip for continued bargaining.They are the ones that aren't happy about this.
>>517648766didnt the koreans already leave the factoriea and went home??why would anyone come herewe have too many spics and niggers
>>517652301>China>old friendThat sounds familiar...
>>517652328>didnt the koreans already leave the factoriea and went home??
nothing will happen. China is already butt fucking Trump with the basedbeans and novideo chips embargo. Why the fuck would he hand China another political W unless he's comically retarded.
>>517648766They are not going to agree to it they are going to get invaded and Trump is going to wash his hands of it.This shit is so predictable at this point. Eastern Europe's lost taiwan's lost.
>>517648766>Taiwan pressured to lose protection or lose protectionTrue Art of the Deal
>>517648766Taiwan shouldn't have move a single TSMC fab. If China invaded then US would be in a deep shit losing access to the entire chip ecosystemTaiwanese army already said that if Americans attempted to blow up or damage TSMC fabs in case of war or takeover by China then the US solders would be a target
>>517649145>long hours>have to be on call>burnoutThose issues don't sound inherent to semiconductor manufacturing. I see (from chatgpt) that tsmc operates 24/7 and can't tolerate delays, and that semiconductor manufacturing is both very sensitive and very technical, but can't you just have a few more people around so they don't have to stay for an extra 4 hours to troubleshoot and fix a problem?Ngl sounds like a cool work environment, very technical but also very day-to-day
>>517652645yeah they would have to be pretty retarded to accept this. they'd be better off just giving control away to china at that point
>>517652958zion don just gonna tomahawk it from far away, no mutt soldiers will be on the ground at that point.
>>517648766Thanks Trump. Now chips will cost 10x more because americans won't accept to work like the chinese
>>517649952It might not be physically demanding but it sounds a lot more mentally demanding. Having to rummage through your niche knowledge of nanoscopic chemistry and physics to troubleshoot whether it's a lens issue or contamination issue or something else under a time pressure sounds stressful.
>>517653176In current scenario it would be a death sentence for the US economyChina has its own fabs and chips that maybe aren't as good, but China has the best networking in the world meaning they can merge chips for coherent work better yielding the same or even better results, while US in this case would have nothingIt would be a black hole back in stone ages.
t. neighbor the new tsmc plantit’s entirely taiwanese workers.americans cannot produce semiconductors. it’s a niche skill that isn’t taught here. there’s no talent infrastructure. for jobs new to the economy you need education. whether it be trade school vocational or college.the new economy jobs for americans are in software. this is where we dominate globally. moving a chip fabrication plant and its workers across the pacific gives us a small gdp boost, not jobs for american workers.
>>517649095lol you believe this shit
>>517653418Surely the americans that work in other chip fabs in the US could also work in a tsmc fab, after brushing up on their processes?
>>517653373>US in this case would have nothingyou're retarded if you think TSMC is the only source of chips in the US
>>517652958Sounds plausible. I've heard that Taiwanese people don't detest China to the extent that the public believes.
>>517652958
>>517649017>Chips are not made with sweatshop labor
>>517653373Yes, hence I feel like zion don gonna just steal the factories already in usa and take a cut from tsmc money there.The taiwanese mentoring or working in america would probably dont mind staying there and maybe they'll change the working culture while still getting paid (even more). The taiwanese tsmc just gotta work on a better chip and get non mutt customers.
>>517653373>networking in the world meaning they can merge chips for coherent work better yielding Not sure what you mean. Are you referring to external economies of scale, which reduces the production costs and the costs of new investments?>>517653665Newer process nodes are more complex, but tbf I guess TSMC would be shifting their older nodes to the US
>>517651168context : every single "ally" of the jewSA got fucked over by them for the past 250 years
The US is too full of niggers to run fabs at scale. You need the raw autism numbers that only Taiwan and maybe Japan can provide
Taiwan will fall without a single shot
>>517653928>Newer process nodes are more complex, but tbf I guess TSMC would be shifting their older nodes to the USchina can't compete with either of them (old or new), no matter how good their "networking" capabilities are
>>517653803>the taiwanese in america wouldn't mind stayingI dunno they might find the US cringe and prefer East Asia.>even if trump humiliated the flower of their country by I think they'd be pissed. Plus I hypothesise that the high level management that would get decapitated are critical to the broad strokes of the operation.I wonder how the chinese are taking Trump comandeering Tiktok. The transfer doesn't seem very heated.
>>517654104ironic you say that because it was your fault US was even in Vietnam in the first place.
>>517654187If it wasn't for corrupt officials on CIA's payroll, Taiwan would already have linked back with continental China a while ago. Everybody there with a brain understand being allied with the US is far more damaging than being under the CCP's umbrella.
>>517654373Ironic you say that because you literally destroyed Europe.
>>517654213I agree that china can't do newer nodes, but they can do older nodes. (ofc america can also do mature nodes)https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/chinas-mature-chips-to-make-up-28-percent-of-world-production-creating-oversupply-western-companies-express-concern-for-their-survival>Feb 2025>China makes 28% of mature (>=20nm) chips
>>517654452good
>>517654187just like panama?
>>517649095Nice CGI
>>517654156Jews will have to create tiny nigger-free asian enclaves in the deserts of New Mexico and Nevada to make their chips in the US. That wont work out, because the entire US economy is based upon white flight away from the nigger menace.
>>517654511You also destroyed yourself in the process, which is also good, the best thing ever even.
>>517648766Hmm this actually means the factories in Arizona wont be ready in time.May turn into big issue because it accelerates the timeline of china taking taiwan and the us still not having domestic production ramped up despite efforts of building huge foundries.I want to see how they will force TSMC and its underlings(hundreds of smaller companies and suppliers) to move their entire business to the us , pay taxes in the us, hire us workers.Oh my god the headache alone is not worth it.Might as well just surrender to china and continue business as usual.
>>5176546532 more weeks?
>>517654268They still can return to visit unless the taiwanese government themselves pissed off.I dont think zion don gonna kill anyone, they just need to strong arm the dutch company asml from servicing and selling better machines to taiwanese tsmc. No idea on how the chinks across the world feel on tiktok takeover, seems like the algo is pretty good too.I would just shutter mutt tiktok if I owned that but who knows gotta be some backroom deal or some shit. With kikes you dont know.
>>517648766TSMC and Nigvidia bros how we feeling about this?
the US has to protect taiwan because of the chips, taiwan needs to give it up or it will lose protection so the US no longer needs to protect it
>>517654746I just want 40 series performance chink gpu for gayming man.
>>517648766Once 50% production is in US what reason will USA have to protect Taiwan? I would call out their bluff.
>>517654667>Oh my god the headache alone is not worth it.Yeah it will never fucking happen. Only 100% delulu finance kikes in their ivory tower (white house) like Nutlick think it could be a thing.>>5176546912 less decades actually, everybody noticed it but you MIGAniggers apparently.
>>517654768we are reaching chutzpah levels who shouldn't be possible anon
>>517649095Fake China's version of the "Iron Dome".
>>517654667the arizona thing failed, the US put DEI requirements in and so forththey can't make chips
>>517652388chinese professor used "old friends" as synonym for jewish communists
>>517648766>give 50% of your most valuable export to us and we’ll protect you He knows they’ll say no to this, it’s just a way to get the US out of defending Taiwan
>>517654822>2 less decades actually, everybody noticed it but you MIGAniggers apparently.uh huh
>>517654701>I would just shutter tiktokyou'd prob get minor poisoning with diarrhea when your subordinates usurp you with the backing of angry private investors, after seeing you snub a popular product and viable business model
>>517653665Intel is inferior in the most advanced chips. Even Chinese are better todays. >>517653768You're kind of like niggers, no wonder you're so low IQ
>>517654809Demand capability. The Taiwanese can keep up, whereas the USA wouldn’t be able to keep up with global demand or even just what the USA needs.
>>517648855China will be very happy
>>517653928>Not sure what you mean. Are you referring to external economies of scale, which reduces the production costs and the costs of new investments?No. It's the ability to make chips work in parallel, which is crucial for AI training
>>517654997>SAAAAR PLEASE UNDERSTAND WE STILL ARE SUPERPOWER NUMBA UNO, DO NOT REDEEM THE SUPERPOWAA STATUS SAAAR YOU BLOODY BENCHOD! SHIVA WILL STRIKE YOUR VILLAGE!
Taiwan has a significant minority that wants to reunite with China. Pushing that toward a majority seems like a very bad play
>>517654809>Once 50% production is in US what reason will USA have to protect Taiwan? I would call out their bluff.South china sea. It doesn't really matter anyway because we're fucked if theres chip manufacturers here in the states or elsewhere. What really matters is the south china sea corridor. And it matters for more than just the U.S. Basically the entire world needs free and open trade through it. Not just the U.S.The most important thing is free and open trade through a select few corridors. This isn't just a U.S. thing by the way. Fuck negotiating over a fucking trade corridor.See>>517654582
>>517648766This is retarded This is like the Israel peace deal bullshit that said disarm entirely and do everything we want, then we promise after we will do some things for you once you are helpless. If they are getting defense because they have special industrial skills already, how would giving those skills away help their position. Our country just says trust is it'll be fine, just give me all your power and I pinky swear that I won't abandon you once I don't need you anymore.
>>517654877
an US memo leaked that they would nordstream the fabs in case of a chinese invasiontaiwans best future is in fact integration with china if that is the other optionremember the US does not even recognize taiwan as a country so the defense commitment is laughable on its facetaiwan should look at ukraine what being an american proxy against a nuclear power means
>>517654877i believe they missed a deadline, it should have started trial production in 2025.Obviously that's not happening.Next checkpoint is late 2026.I hear the initial batch of US engineers trained in Taiwan disbanded because the factory is not ready and they were idling all this time, and new hirings are slow because you need floor people that will dedicate their life to the factory.Mutts are simply not capable of that so they have to import and that complicates things even more.
>>517655283yes, attempt to pacificy trump
>>517650033The issue is that we might never be able to make the chips here. It is really detailed work and likely pays pretty good so niggers and women will want in and they will ruin it.
>>517655123I never liked the French and you never liked America. I don't get what the big deal is? We don't need to pretend to be friends anymore.
>>517655344thats what happened via DEI requirements, thats why I wrote for yers here that trump niggers need to get national security exceptions for the DEI crap or this project will never work
>>517655017>Even Chinese are better todays.not true at all
Taiwan is not defensible. US is trying to see what it can get in concessions from everyone including china. Rumor is that china said they promise to stay out of the middle east if they can get taiwan since the US cares so much about that region.
>>517654701>they can still returnThe upper managment you mean? I dunno if they'd want to be contracted as intermittent directors.>they just need to strong arm the dutch company asml from servicing and selling better machines to taiwanese tsmc.If this is before the US gets 3nm nodes, then Taiwan pops a vein and doesn't give 3nm chips to the US.If we assume this is after the US somehow gets 3nm nodes, then I'm not sure what the point is.Plus tsmc has managed to continuously innovate. Maybe they not only excel in operating the newer nodes, but also excel in discovering the new nodes. If the US cuts ties with TSMC, then we might be linger on 3nm whilst Taiwan and China march to 2nm and onwards.
>>517655341cope
>>517653045I've done work inside one of these plants as a subcontractor. It's hot and you have to wear a full clean suit at all times. Just to get in the first time I had to take a 2 hour safe test. It probably pays well thought.
>>517655686I told you trump niggers you have to create national security excemptions for DEI to make this work
>>5176556092nm is not happening with this technology,they actually plan using particle accelerators like in cern.not that big but still, its pretty far away in the future.The rush not is getting that 3nm and cut off supply to china.>>517654701>hey just need to strong arm the dutch company asml from servicing and selling better machines to taiwanese tsmc.this is 100% how it will go down.anon is right
>>517648766Taiwan should use 50% of its chip production to build a nuke and stop relying on unreliable Americans
>>517650384>WW3 will happen sooner than that.2 semanas mais
>>517655924nah they should just join the chinks like hong kong did with the US as ally you do not need enemies
>>517655454It is. Intel is a laughing stockpile that had to be saved by the US government and Nvidia from bankruptcy
>>517648766No shit. Get everything important off of that island then let the mainland chinks have it. Insane that the American empire would try to hold on to it just for the sake of it.
>>517655117Ohhh Eh that works only upto a point. There are also bottlenecks in memory bandwidth (presumably comes from smaller nodes with smaller shorter wires) and network bandwidth (if you have more processors, this becomes a bigger bottleneck). Concretely for grad descent, you need each processor to iterate over terabytes of data (requires high memory bandwidth). Then you need to merge every processor's weight deltas (high network bandwidth) and then do the entire thing again many many more times.If it was something like cryptomining which is embarassingly parallelisable then you'd be right.
>>517655812you don't seem to understand the difference between DEI and merit based hiring.
>>517656026you are indian
>>517655454Intel is an Israeli company btw. This is what happens when this cow dung of a country and it's low IQ "society" gives crucial tech to the Jews.
>>517648766So what about gallium, germanium, and silicone? China produces like 98% of that shit, and we need it for transitors.
>>517656050merit based hiring in the US is illegal and antisemitic
>>517655755paid $16/hr pre covid in the city I was in, which was kind of shitty when 17/18 was becoming the norm. Expected to do long shifts, with over time. Because there was literal news about chip makers getting a ton of business/cash/interest/infusion. The clean suit sounds like even more hell.Wasn't worth it, imo. But working over 4 hours a day wasn't worth it to me so, ymmv
>>517656002show me a single example of China creating a better chip
>>517651063>twenty million displaced>power grid fuckedLmao based>>517653418This is the reality. I know some Intel chip workers from Organ it pays shit compared to being a software engineer whereas in Taiwan it's the opposite and TSMC pays much better than being a dev.Very different priorities and then everyone acts all shocked Pikachu they can't get chip talent in the US.That Arizona plant is barely pumping out anything either compared to Taiwan factories, would need an insanely huge ramp up to even get close to 50%. Like a few hundred thousand skilled workers out of thin air to replicate the entire supply chain involved
what "protection?" it's already well established that amerikikes will samson option taiwanese industry in the event of a chinese invasion. their prerogative is not protection but deterrence. if deterrence fails, the taiwan will likely be bombed harder by kikes than chinks
>>517656127Huawei Ascend seires is better than anything Intel has created when it comes to the AI chipI will always prefer China over your nigger-kike country.
>>517655609The (new) upper management will be the us gov, and tsmc gonna be divided into a us gov tsmc and other (global) tsmc which will be helmed by the current taiwanese or whoever tsmc having now if they are not bought out by us gov. The actual production line taiwanese people maybe will be let go to visit taiwan once in a while but only after they trained local americans or whoever else being brought to replace them.
Tacit admission that we know we can't hold Taiwan for much longer.
>>517656096the US government seems to disagree with youhttps://www.opm.gov/chcoc/transmittals/2025/Merit%20Hiring%20Plan%205-29-2025%20FINAL.pdf
>>517656127they will by necessity, trump niggers acknowledges that and removed some barriers to get spy ware into china
>>517656047*requires high network bandwidthbasically memory bandwidth is crucial and that comes from smaller chipsHaving said that, maybe China could gain an edge in older node ASICs that are nevertheless competitive with newer node GPUs.
demands like this make it more likely that taiwan strikes a deal with fucking china.whats america going to do about it? stop buying their chips?
>>517656209yeah not opening that and it is illegal good luck
>>517648855>give up your protection and rely on us>it worked great for Ukraine bigly
>>517656026US bets that China will fumble the invasion.The funniest thing is, they probably will but they are still taking the island.People should ask themselves is thousands of lives are worth over petty geopolitics.
>>517656192I just don't like that you have to wait 6 months to see if it's real, and a year to see if the stats they give you were real. By then you should have just gotten the competitor chip at the time because it's 5-10% better than what you got, even though it was advertised as the breakthrough required to let your computer talk to god. Maybe china's reputation is different now tho. c:
>>517656228the day the US memo leaked to blow up the fabs in case of a chinese invasion attempt was the day taiwan should have flipped to be honestthe hong kong deal is better than the ukraine deal
>>517655479>>517655479>is that china said they promise to stay out of the middle east if they can get taiwanNice bargain for China. China wants Taiwan enough to throw Iran under the bus.But China now depends heavily on Iran oil to fuel its industry.China could still buy oil & gas from Russia >(thru sea and the new pipelines crossing Mongolia and Central Asia)(Also ofc from Indonesia, Nigeria, Arabs, etc)But it won't be enough to meet China industry demands.I guess China would still try to keep backing Iran, in its upcoming war against Israel and USA, by providing military equipment and Intel. While grabbing Taiwan.If China grabs Taiwan I bet USA either wouldn't do shit and just watch like a cuck or force Filipinos, Japanese and Koreans to fight as proxies in USA's behalf.If China invades Taiwan most Taiwanese citizens would side with China, and betray West.
>>517656242looks like i win your faggy argument then, subhuman
>>517656207.Excuse me, but you are confusing chances of stolen technology via an unsafe distance vs admission of surrender.
>>517655856I see
>>517656192you are the 51st state you absolute retard. you will be cleaning American toilets in the future or dead in a minefield. your choice
>>517656322china can get taiwan either diplomatic or by a sustained naval blockadein the second case I would model a reverse cuba crisis with the US giving up
>>517656228They will confiscate or freeze whatever money or assets tsmc holding in america and their euro vassals, just like how russia got their asset freeze.
>>517654511There it is. Happy hannukah
>>517656297China recently banned nvidia, they wouldn't do it if they weren't 100% certain they have an upper hand.
>>517656196>us gov tsmc would be mingling with original tsmcHmm alright then as long as the connection remains I guess we won't be losing out completely on their expertise
>>517656328you indians are truely retarded
>>517656456We will dump you at the first opportunity and join China. America is a dying empire and you're incresigly a laughing stockpile of the world. Especially today.
>>517648766Burgers are too stupid to mace semiconductors.Might as well move the entirety of Taiwan to Florida.>>517651063>China has no defense against anythingThis is the literal mutt wet dreamChina can turn the power off in the USA.They have prepared for years against burger aggression.
>>517656621>gets btfo by an indianis that really your excuse?
>>517656456China will destroy the for profit US AI companies by releasing open source models. The entire US AI ecosystem is a ticking time bomb ever since DeepSeek was released back in January
>>517656626Your modern day success as a country is only because of America. Same goes for China.
>>517656676this was friendly advice for him to stop being indian, that you do not understand that DEI policy is the law of the land in the US then you are a kikeit has to be done by an act of congress not an executive order if you want to give arizona fabs a DEI exception
>>517656732Look up who's in charge and who works for Maginificent 7 (aka only American companies that matter) and you won't find any American in there, because you are too low IQ.
>>517656850the US president is named netanyahu not a WASP name
>>517656732TSMC fab that recently opened in Arizona has 95% Taiwanese workforce, because noone is skilled in America
>>517656850>we wuz CEOs and sheeit, saarrris that really your argument?
>>517648766Imagine being Taiwan. The US and China must make them sick
>>517657023I don't mean CEOs. I mean the engineers and the R&D. All non-American, because all heavy thinking jobs aumatically exclude Americans, because you aren't the sharpest tools in the box.
>>517648766Taiwan would gain absolutely nothing from this deal lol.
>>517657130I'm surprised they even agreed on placing their fabs in Arizona. I guess Biden made great impression on them and thought a new era of normal America is coming, but boy they were wrong.Never understand the stupidity of American plebs
>>517649145>>517652007>>517653794how fucking deluded are you retarded cunts?the whole reason that america can't take chip manufacturing over is because you hire niggers, pajeets and women and none of them are capable of making themfucking dumb cunts
>>517656462Naval blockade would be Kino.But as you said Taiwan could surrenderm submit to and be annexed by China simple thru diplomacy rather than hot war.How Trump cut USAid to Japan, Korea and Taiwan while punishing 'em with sanctions will backfire and push them more towards China.China already bought many Japanese politicians into it's sphere of influence. So I would not be surprised if Japan also betrays the West. If USA withdraws from East Asia to focus on Middle East and Venezuela.Worst/South Korea rivalry with Best/North Korea would keep Worst Korea on USA's side.But many in K-Pop Korea also desire reunification with based Kimmy's Best Korea. Like Post cold war German unification,Even if under commie rule.At least unified Korea would have nukes, so be feared by West.Instead of a democracy that cucks to the West and gargles on Jewish bankers' kosher dick semen,Koreans could willingly opt for a more based NatSoc style authoritarian rule.A great deal that I'm spewing here is just /Pol/ack shit posting. So take it with a grain of salt btw.But the simple thought of a Cold War 2.0 + WW3 across the entire world including East Asia would be pretty cool and Kino NGL.
>>517657104wrong again (i'm not surprised)
>>517655924They had a secret nuclear program years ago. The guy in charge of it leaked the existence of it to us because he was against it and when we found out we shut it down.
>>517657247>I guess Biden made great impression on them and thought a new era of normal Americait started in Trump's first term and Biden secured the funding
>>517657735how does that refute my words you dumb fucking low IQ mutthuman
>>517656732Powerful.
>>517651063You know the Dutch and Portuguese colonized Taiwan before China did?
>>517648766>95% of your critical components are made by Taiwan>Implying America has any say when it refuses to make themProtection ain't that much to ask for but if you want a USA-based manufacturer, you have to penalize the kike investment firms that are backing Taiwan in the first place. It's like this is Lutnik's first ever economic war.
>>517659141The Portuguese never colonized Taiwan.
>>517648766Why is nobody accusing US stealing chip factory?
>>517658991it's true.
>>517659576Our investment money built the factory in the first place.
>>517659981Money doesnt make you in charge tho.Also you isnt Blackrock, there is no "we" here. If anything its jewish globalist interests that invested it.
>>517659655I’m sure it is bud.
>>517659306they did reach it firsthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Formosa
>>5176489953 gorges dam will be hit by 30+ stealthy cruise missiles and China will be swallowed by the cleansing waters of retribution. Digits chink
>>517657011>TSMC fab that recently opened in Arizona has 95% Taiwanese workforceThat's called protecting your investment and technology, it was in the fine print of the agreement that the US had to employ Taiwanese in order for TSMC to do any manufacturing here. You're dumb as fuck, friend.
>>517660206believe what you want. won't change reality
>>517659269Taiwan is 99% reliant on the US projection of force to survive. If we stopped caring, China would fuck with them so hard and everyone who isn't a retard knows this.
>>517660198>money jews made thanks to AmericaMost of their collective global wealth stems from the USA.
>>517656209i work in semiconductor manufacturing and i'll believe this when i'm no longer surrounded by retarded shitskins
>>517656532Are you being clever or saying that in all seriousness? Be forewarned I ignore the majority of the division/hate bait on here besides the good ones (guy said Schluchtenscheisser on her yesterday), but your reply will sway me. YOUR reply, not a bot/shills. I don't trust anyone on this website.
>>517660495yeah we can agree on that you are host to jewish parasite alright.
>>517651343S-400 is utter trash
>>517660581i know you are lying, but what job are you pretending to have?
>>517648855China will be happy with this. The less the US is truly dependent on Taiwan, the less we need to stick our neck out for them.That's the whole reason Taiwan is dragging their feet and claiming it's a US problem and not them. They don't want to lose the entire reason the US gives a fuck about them in the first place.
>>517648766Move the US to Taiwan before you do that.These kikes are unbelievable. They send Henry Kissinger over there to create a new golem, then they lose control of it at the same time they are gutting the old one so badly that it's now on life support? Not smart.
>>517652302Well maybe they reunite with their homeland. China has a better claim to Taiwan then any other territorial dispute in the world today. Let the chinks have it and let the Russians rape Eroupe. We can play with Latin America.
>>517660729field service engineer for a semiconductor equipment supplier. think LAM, ASML, or applied materials. I go out to customer fabs to service/repair/maintain equipment at TSMC, Samsung, Intel, and other smaller fab companies
>>517660459Yeah, I’m sticking with believe, the alternative is fucking grim.
>>517660960>grimas compared to what? estonia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_state#Poland
>>517660899Um, the US won't survive without semiconductor manufacturing. We should be putting 6 year olds in bunny suits and terraforming our natural habitats with Internet of Molech.
>>517660237>they did reach it firstThat’s…a reach. They were the first Europeans to sail past it. The Dutch actually colonized it and there were already aboriginals and Chinese fisherman there when they arrived.
>>517660899No country in Latin America has nukes(officially but Brazil& Argentina have nuclear tech) Amerimutts can practice non-nuclear conventional warfare with us on Latin America. Brace for an eventual Vietnam 2.0 jungle war humiliation tho.USA Empire is vulnerable to asymmetrical warfare.Yemeni Houthi-Chads showed us that cheap ass drones can sink USA warships.Yemeni Houthi-Chads almost sunk an USA aircraft carrier. USA roped Sadam Hussein and raped Qaddafi.But USA also lost pathetically to Afghan goat herders wearing sandals and emaciated Vietnamese rice farmers. Better the USA military be prepared when waging war here on South America.To avoid another humiliation.And please invade more Spic countries besides Venezuela. A war just against Venezuela would be boring. A war between USA and the whole Latin America (from Mexico to Chile) would be more fun. Currently Argentina dudes with Trump tho.
>>517660899>>517662108Currently Argentina sides* with Trump tho.
>>517662108>QaddafiGaddafi*
>>517648766Taiwan should just go behind the red curtain. Clearly they see the United States allies like Ukraine, Israel, and Qatar big allies of americans. All they do is lie their soldiers not wanting to fight wars. Is Taiwan as a nation so blind to this? They tried making a fablab in Arizona. They really tried but the local population dont have the ethics of quality workmanship needed for precision for these lithography machines. Also the niggers eventually followed many of the tsmc chink workers to their community. Those niggers are robbing their houses and local authorities dont do shit. Now ICE is involved and auditing legitmate H1B visa workere. Its all fucked. Like Japanese hornets that found a beehive and stealing all the honey and taking no prisoners alive.
>>517651316They saw in Hong Kong what happens. You government gets fully overthrown and integrated into mainland China. Taiwanese people who love China that much just move.
>>517649017Leftists think any and all work is sweatshop labor. They despise the idea that america might make anything.
>>51764914512 hour days? Weekends? big fucking deal. I worked at Micron for 4 years and we had all of that. Welcome to how you actually get shit done.
>>517656209The results of the US government's incompetence disagrees with you.
>>517648955I like how confident you are when in the global community you are the only one who recognizes your own flag
>>517663454Even before Hong Kong few there wanted to be integrated into China.
>No, gosh forbid people pay for their own security. Somehow we must owe them billions of pounds and risk our lives for their comfort for free. Obviously they have to play fair. It’s like protecting an ammo shop from bandits and being told by the shopkeeper that supply & demand means you must pay double for a fresh mag otherwise. President Trump is very wise to look after his own country first or it can’t look after anyone else.
>>517651063Can you believe 60% of China used to be a lake before the dam was built?!?
>>517664314care to reference anything specific without sounding like a redditor?
>>517648766The ability of a nation to produce chips and glue logic is as important as producing turbines and high performance jet engines.
>>517648766Chip production in Taiwan is only thing which keep USA protecting them...if they move it to USA they can hanging themselves because nothing stops China then incoming.
>>517663159>the local population dont have the ethics of quality workmanship needed for precisionWrong, it was literally in the trade agreement that Taiwan wouldn't have to employ Americans for building any proprietary technology. It was part of the incentive to bring them here, the percentage of the workforce that is American are all in liaison or logistics positions.
>>517660899The Dutch have more claim to Taiwan than the CCP who've never once controlled it
>>517648855I suspect this is a ploy to force Taiwan to back out due to unreasonable demands, at which he can say the US will back out of twpaiwan defense because Taiwan couldn't honor his demands, to strike a deal with Chyna to buy more soys
>>517666611its called chutzpa it is an american word for betraying negotiations
>>517664860damn you're at 38 posts already, definitely not desperate. maybe you should try harder, that will definitely inspire confidence.
>>517666425Legally speaking that’s not how it works. The current post Maidan government of Ukraine has a claim over Crimea even though they haven’t ever controlled it because it is Ukrainian territory and claims go to countries not governments. Taiwan is legally part of China because the Axis lost WW2, after the UN recognized the PRC as the legal government of China in the 70s they inherited the legal deed to all Chinese territory regardless of what they actually controlled.
>>517648766https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IJCFc_qkHw#t=3m33s
>>517648766and this is why 60% of the taiwanese population have a positive opinion about china. Jewmerica just want to use them for neocolonial purposes.
>>517667060not an argument
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>>517668776Many people in Taiwan want closer economic ties with China but reunification remains unpopular.
>>517668776>and this is why 60% of the taiwanese population have a positive opinion about china. Jewmerica just want to use them for neocolonial purposes.
>>517648766Fuck America!
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