/pol/ has never refuted this
>>517653704Welcome to reality faggot, i will not be your guide.
>>517653704Refuted what?
>>517653704What about proportional fines? Based on wealth/income
>>517653704refuted some tumblr edits from 2010?
>>517653704The point of a fine is to compensate for damage done.You're not magically hurt more just because a rich person did it. What a childish understanding of the law.
>>517653704It has been refuted since literally 380 BC you dumb jeetkikeThose who know know
>>517653704The evil jews don’t want you to know that the ducks at the park are free, and delicious.
>>517653858No one does that, the rich people would complain.
none of these FFT quotes are real
>>517653704commies like you get pic related
>>517654005Few countries do income based fines like Finland
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>>517653920while that is true, it is also simultaneously true that if you have an infinite money glich (like you niggers do), any law punished by a fine basically doesn't apply to you. you are a jidf fucking nigger btw, everyone can pick you out at a mile.
>>517653704It is impossible to starve in the United States Food is the only thing you're allowed to have for free in this wretched faggot corpo country
>>517654123And that is why we have no rich people :D
>>517653858if you make it based on income, then rich people who don't work will never pay anythingif you make it based on wealth, then poor people will be forced to sell their home to pay for the finejust throw them in jail
>>517653920The point of a fine can also be to deter behavior, which does nothing if the person doing that behavior is so rich that the fine doesn't deter themWhat a childish understanding of fines, memeflag retard
>>517653704>earning a living bitPseuds love saying that but then ignore that every living creature has to "earn its living" because that's how nature works.
>>517653704Fines can be adjusted at the discretion of a judge based on who committed the crime. Also I'm pretty sure if you keep committing the same offense, they'll just throw you in jail. A fine is usually a warning
>>517653704>i have to do something to deserve life??yes. i dont see why youd have a problem with this. >b-but what if you cant??if we are so morally bankrupted, we cannot by our own volition take care of the old or sick, being held at gun point to do it isnt going to solve our problems. all of these things hes complaining about must include backing all the solitions with threats of violence. by default, humans are balanced in anarchy, and its a group that has a monopoly on violence that tells all the others how to solve problems, hes no diffetent. hes just advocating for his own group to be holding the guns, just like everyone else. oooh wow so profound and smart!
You’re in luck! The systems which prioritize political freedom just so happen to be the ones with the highest standards of living. How peculiar! I’m sure you’re relieved to hear that information.
>>517653704The second one is true. We are not different from animals we have to earn continued life. Not everyone will be able to do that even if it sucks.
>>5176537041: Okay2: I agree3: Yes
consider a wild animal. nobody owes the animal food except its parents when it is young. once it is grown it must fend for itself.
>>517654494So what some rich people will speed or park in a loading zone. The world will be fine.
>>517653704The law applies to both its just easier for rich people to pay.Earning a living means living comfortably, you can live if you dont work i.e the retard neets on polI cant refute a question...Thats that
>>517653704I disagreeEven rich people hate finesPunishing criminals is not about severity but certainty.If punishment is 100% certain crime will be far less appealing, even if the punishment is a fine and an apology. Rich people can afford a fine, but they have to feel like a huge cuck and get embarrassed by the procedure of dealing with it.
Some lightning hit ammonia 3.5 billion years ago and now bitches be like “I deserve homeostasis.”
>>517653704i agree with all of themAbolish fines and institute hard laborNo one deserves anything but the fruit of their laborThose who would not labor to live are free to die
Leftism is the correct position fundamentally. Right wing will always be about making the rich richer and nothing but. Even the Nazis worshiped the Rothschilds and let them go and hated the poor ghetto Jews.However, that doesn't negate the fact that evildoers like Marx have been soiling the political spectrum for centuries with evil ideas.
>>517653704Who ever told you anything deserves to be alive?What do you think animals are doing when they eat, what plants are doings when their roots suck the nutrients from corpses?
Declaring a finite resource a human right doesn't make it any less finite
>>517654484we dont count the house you live in as wealth
>>517653969You would still have to work to get them.
>>517653704>A fineIf the wrong can be undone with money, who in his right mind would ask for more?>Earning a livingNature doesn't provide any animal with a "living", they need to hunt or forage to stay alive. Who owes you your sustenance?>Free politicallyIf someone has to provide you food, they're no longer free. So either pick a society where some are slaves (including you, if you're born to the wrong group) or freedom indeed means you're as free to starve as you're free to provide for yourself.
>>517656533that babby monke>if you only knew how bad things are...
>>517654179>meanwhile Saudi Arabia buys EA and says 'gays are out' and all of the sudden NOW media is being bought and politicizedGive me a fucking break. Their concern for media being bought and politicized is only when someone wants to roll back queer shit in video games? Like no mention of the 24/7 anti Trump media narratives, the hoaxes, the fabrications, covid narrative control, mRNA 'vaccine' misinformation, etcOooooooooh I hate what I see rn.
>>517653704terminal statements. The declarative form is rhetorical armor. theyr moral axioms not hypothesis. You cant falsify a value judgment
>>517658186>>517654179>oh yea and don't forget BOTH of the election interference narratives, the eternal hiding and covering up of Antifa riots and violence, the monkeypox coverup, constant pandering to niggers and coverups of black on white violence, etc.>But all of the sudden NOW media is being bought and politicized because some Arabs said they won't put gays in the new games they're about to make. Fucking fuck me I'm angry. Again.
>>517653704What happens in nature to an animal that does not make an effort to survive? It fucking dies. What a stupid fucking argument.
>>517658186Yeah because they don't care and they supported it.
>>517653704Marxism is irrefutable.
>>517658992irrefutably shit
>>517658992We've had a 150 years of his ideas being implemented to prove what he was right on and what he was wrong on. And it's been more devastation than good. And the primary reason for the devastation is his unrealistic romantic view on human nature. The entire basis of a marxist ustopia is of a pure human heart in positions of authority. Yet what happens when a marxist movement captured a country? Wealth disparity increases, quality of life for average citizens decreases and the culmination of civil turmoil either resulting in a militant right wing revolt or socialist elites cracking down of their own unruly population to defend their positions. & Marx's estimation that the rich are getting richer while the poor are getting poorer is only half correct. The rich are getting richer, but the poor are not getting poorer. I'm only scratching the surface here too. The examples can be found all through out history.
>>517653920>Damage done by speeding>Damage done by putting a fence on your property without sucking the mayors penis>damage done by having bald tires
>>517653704>if a crime does financial harm to someone, you have to pay compensation>"right to life" just means people can't legally murder you, it doesn't mean society is obligated to fund your lifestyle>If you'd rather be fed than be free, go to prison and see how that works out for you
>>517653704>And if I must force someone to grow food for me when I pay them nothing, that is called slavery.
>>517656117At least it's work they don't give to profit off of or tax for a change
>>517653704is this dialog actually from the game?
Was pic related a useful idiot? He did good for the sake of doing good and got killed.
It's really easy to be a snarky faggot trying to poke holes in things. What's his solution? If it's socialism/communism then lol. Especially the part about starving.
>>517654179That's not the actual dialogue from the game, you can even tell the word "fascists" sticks out.
>>517658186FF Tactics is 28 years old.
>>517661628I haven't beaten it so I'm not sure, probably not since the other quote about fascists is not real, that part is at the very beginning of the game.
>>517653704Stfu, yes, you must earn your right to live, you must catch food and eat. Don’t expect people to feed you for life. A grown individual has no right to simply exist within a community/nation, unless he does his part. No one is a slave to you, you are not owed shit, fuck face.
>>517661936>>517662085The actual line is the nobility or the nobles, something like that.
>>517662070You realize that just further solidifies the point I was making, right?
Without commenting on the messages themselves, I have to say I don't like FFT being used this way. At least it seems more people know the quotes aren't actually in the game now, for a while a lot of people believed they were real (or at least the one about fines).
>>517653920>The point of a fine is to compensate for damage done.What a childish understanding of fines.
>>517653920the point of a fine is to have a lesser punishment than arrest, imprisonment, or death available as a warning to potential outlaws who may be dissuaded by the mere possibility of losing moneyremove those lesser punishments, and all crimes (even selling loosies) end up carrying the death penalty, one way or another
>>517662291>someone editing a game that's 3 decades old has anything to do on the part of the industry with EA sports of all fucking nothingburger studios being bought by the saudis
>>517653704That's fine, but grow your own food then. You are not entitled to someone else's labor or time. There, refuted it for you.
>>517654179top right corner is asgar from vampires dawn
>>517653704>"Earining a living" that by default we don't deserve to be alive.Correct. In nature, if you don't go out and hunt, you starve to death. You fucking retard.
>>517662453I don't think you're understanding my point. I'm saying that gaming has BEEN politicized for years and years. Leftists on reddit are now FINALLY saying that gaming is politicized but only NOW that Saudi Arabia bought EA and said 'the gays are out.'Hope that brought you up to speed.
>>517653704I was briefly a Communist and I hate leftists (progressives) and other "Communists" more than any of you cocksuckers. Probably more than most of you combined, in fact. Only Mensheviks and Fascists are worthy of respect in modern political discourse.
>>517654310>WHY ISN'T EVERYTHING FREE REEEEEEGet a job, hippy.
>>517653704But was that the actual translation in the game?
>>517653704>firstLoophole easily addressed and most ticket able offenses have a sliding scale on repeat offenders. The point of a fine or "civil" is that you broke the law but since it wasn't something as murder or rape we don't think we should put you in a cage but need something otherwise retards will just ignore the laws. and no not having laws unless it's a criminal doing jail time is a good solution retard. Slow the fuck down and don't drive drunk.>SecondIt's an expression. Even in communist shitholes you need to do work of some kind.>ThirdSome weird leftist juxtaposition of two things that aren't binary.
>leftist faggot takes one of the most based characters ever and turns him into a cringe lord.God I hate those faggots so fucking much.
>>517653704>If the penalty for a law is a crime, then that law only exists for the lower classOnly exists for the lower to middle class, but overall the point is apt. Many laws with fees really need income adjusted fees, prison, or even the death penalty.>Earning a living means that by default we don't deserve to be aliveIts just an idiom. You are correct that people who are able to work but choose to be leeches don't deserve to be alive though.>If one is free politically but has no food, what is that? Freedom to starve?Attemped catchy phrases mean nothing. It means being free politically while there is a famine.Hope that helps, tranny
>>517662847>Leftists on reddit are now FINALLY saying that gaming is politicized but only NOWThat image has been around for ages. The left has been saying games are political for fucking ever.The entire movement where they hate on games for featuring generic white /warrior/space marine as the protagonist is them complaining about the politics of games and they've been doing that since at least the early 2000s
>>5176537041) Yes. It is unjust. 2) Yes. You don't deserve to be alive. It is not a matter of deserve, only power and maintenance. (What a tragedy that your language doesn't even have a word for maintenance.)3) I don't agree with the premise, you and your children belong in separate forced labor and reeducation camps.
>>517662847>saudi’s kicking gays outI love islam!
