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Kalimdor is our rightful holy land, those were the words of the prophet. If Centaurs were here first and are unhappy I don't care. We Orcs have built things here and Centaurs continues to attack us.
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>>517658876
man I want warcraft 4 so bad
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>>517658876
The cantaurs didn't even act in diplomacy, tho. They just started attacking both the Orcs and the native Tauren. What did you expect from the Orcs, except total domination?
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>>517659042
That shit would be the wokest of the woke garbage they would put out. It probably wouldn't even be an RTS, but some Diablo clone or (God forbid) an ARPG.
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>>517659042
>this gay ass nigger is still crawling through the shit in current year
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>>517658876
Honestly Durotar was literally an empty wasteland when the Orcs arrived and the centaurs move in later to try and take advantage of what they had built.
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>>517659065
Centaurs are unironically just pure evil driven by a pure evil God.
Orcs (at least Thrall’s Orcs) and the Tauren did nothing wrong.
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>>517659042
Have you paid attention to WoW lore?
No, you don't want that in this day and age.
>>517658876
>we destroyed our own land with our demon worship, now we want to take over all the native american coded peoples
There's a metaphor here somewhere.
Remember Ashenvale, kill all orcs.
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>>517658876
>our holy land
You have to go back, green skin.
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>>517659363
>Centaurs are unironically just pure evil driven by a pure evil God.
umm actually chud, centaur are part of the LGBTQIA2+ now
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Centaurs are basically Muslims. Yeah they have a language and some semblance of a civilization, but they're total fucking niggers. Also, ogres from WarCraft lore are actual niggers IRL because they're nothing more than big, dumb, stupid hominoids with little culture, and once in a blue moon a token magical negro (ogre Magi) will come through for the rest of the tribe to sing "lawdy, lawdy, hallelujah!"
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>>517658876
>I told you to stop using the starfleet communication systems for your bullshit wharf
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>>517659448
>we destroyed our own land with our demon worship, now we want to take over all the native american coded peoples
Is funny because I thought you were talking about the elfs
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>>517659693
>centaur are part of the LGBTQIA2+ now
That doesn't just make them evil anymore, but outright demonic.
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>>517659693
Lmao can they really not have a single “bad guy” at all who is just bad?

What’s next? The wholesome Gnolls who are being oppressed by Racist Stormwind humans?
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>>517659891
Elves and Naga are East and Southeast Asian coded

Sun and Blood Elves are actually commie chinks because they fucked up their society but some are trying to semi-LARP semi-patch it together again
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>>517658876
Doomhammer was Based, Blackhand was too greedy and Ner'Zuel would rather fuck with the undead.
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>>517659891
It's cyclical, yes, but the elves were there first so they're allowed to wreck their own shit if they feel like it.
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>>517659448
Unironically the elven lands are all fake and demon infested due to the Nelf leadership being totally corrupt. you’d know if you ever played the Nelf questline.

Orcs didn’t destroy Durotaur, it was a barren waste the settled in intentionally because no one would bother them (ideally)
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>>517660143
And then they started leveling elven forests because their barren shithole has no trees
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>>517660015
>Lmao can they really not have a single “bad guy” at all who is just bad?

Drink the fucking juice.
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>>517660143
I know who Azshara is you dolt. You're missing the point though.
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>>517660143
You call them corrupt, but they kept non-magic plebs out of their grove for centuries while having 100 female on one male elf orgies
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>>517659042
You are the reason I can't play Escape Auschwitz and Chad vs Chud. Whoever reminded Blizzard that Warcraft 3 exists will be executed alongside the jews.
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>>517659308
IT STILL IS AN EMPTY WASTELAND.
WITH SHIT IN THE STREETS.

IT HAS BEEN FORTY ONE FUCKING YEARS SINCE YOU STUPID GREENSKINS CAME THROUGH THE DARK PORTAL. ORGRIMMAR WAS BUILT 20 YEARS AGO AND IT MAKES THUNDER BLUFF LOOK LIKE FUCKING SILVERMOON.

NO RUNNING WATER. NO WASTE DISPOSAL. TRASH AND SHIT IN THE STREETS. CHAOTIC, UNORGANIZED LAYOUT.

HOLY FUCK YOU HAVE GOBLINS. LOOK AT UNDERMINE! IT'S BASICALLY A ONE TO ONE OF MODERN DAY NYC! YOU COULD AT LEAST SHIT OUT SOMETHING LIKE MUMBAI OR EVEN KAMPALA.

BUT NO. YOU STUPID, KNUCKLE DRAGGING ORCS JUST SIT AND PICK YOUR NOSES IN YOUR OWN SHIT WHILE GETTING OVERRUN BY ELVES WHO TAKE THE ENTIRITY OF YOUR FACTIONS PLAYERBASE AND FUNDING. THEY EVEN GET THEIR OWN FUCKING EXPANSION NOW.

GOD I HATE ELVES.

T. DWARF ARMS WARRIOR SINCE 2005
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illegal aliens in more ways than one
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Kalimdor is more comfy than Eastern Kingdoms and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
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>>517660523
They are still pumping out balance patches. I think blizzard reminded blizzard their own game exists.
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>>517658876
more val’kyr pussy for me
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>>517660535
Sir, the worldbuilding and lore stopped being developed after Wrath. Night elf expansion? Undermine? Wake up bro, we're doing Onyxia at 6 PM tonight.
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Reminder the horde playerbase is unironically over 50% elf between blood elf, Nightborne and Dracthyr.
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>>517660679
you have an argument to be made but elewynn forest and westfall's combined presence decapitate your tranny troll head in one fell swoop
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>>517660948
>Wrath
>WRATH
Do not get me started. That expansion and it's Titan bullshit, killing the most iconic villain in the series history so early on in the game's life, adding Death Knights, completely removing gear relevance from patch to patch, the shift to focus PvP balancing to Arena and pulling back the curtain on so much of the lore's mystique was the beginning of the end.
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>>517660679
honestly ashenvale always feels right
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>>517659448
>>we destroyed our own land with our demon worship, now we want to take over all the native american coded peoples
The tauren are the native coded people and they're saved my the orcs. The cenaurs are just mongol coded savages.

The orcs are still subhuman demon worshipping savages that need to go home to their own world
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Why does california hate night elves?
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>>517660679
Eh, Ashenvale is really really comfy, but it doesnt outweigh all the stinkers kalimdor has. Desolace, felwood and silithus are particularly uncomfy. Eastern kingdoms is more consistently comfy. Elwynn, Loch Modan, Hinterlands, Hillsbrad, stranglethorn vale - you just cant compete with truly core comfy zones like that.
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>>517660982
Good. They should form their own elf only faction. It made no sense for the Belves to join the horde in the first place and it only happened so the faction could have a pretty race.
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>>517660679
Enjoy your sillithid infestation.
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yeeh you better nawt come back to this conter-nant NAH GAR!
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>>517660679
You'll rarely find someone liking Desolace, but the vibes and overall atmosphere, complemented with the beautiful skybox were some of the most memorable moments while questing. Still, EK is where all the pvp action and old school lore is at.
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>>517661314
Troggs were on Kalimdor as well. Ragefire Chasm.
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>>517661239
>stranglethorn vale
>comfy
Every time you walk into that zone It Ain't Me starts playing and invisible tigers, raptors, and enemy faction rogues appear out of thin air.
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>>517661309
they are level 60
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>>517661347
I liked desolace. But i played a paladin so i had like 200% more buttons to click in that zone.

Also you could align yourself with the centaurs on the road horde used and then cuck their kills with heals. Hilarious
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Wc4 when? I want an updated version of dota that is not made by valve.
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>>517661181
>was the beginning of the end
Still, that was the last time you could feel the game's sould and where they tried to keep to that dark fantasy feeling of the OG Warcraft.
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>>517660135
I thought that was the US flag in the background
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>>517660135
>but the elves were there first
*Stares in pure hatred*
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wow is for retards, gays and manchildren
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>>517661658
I played the remasters and they were solid tbqhfamalama

WC 1 and 2 still have the crosses on the churches btw
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>>517659161
This. If modern Blizzard made it, it would be ass. Also there would be a quest where you help two gay centaurs fall in love.
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>>517661812
WC3 was a formative part of Nancy's teenage years. The lore after the Lich King is all gay.
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>>517658876
This land was promised to me by Elune 10,000 years ago.
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>>517661314
that's literally me
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>>517662062
There are tiny flecks of gold in the massive piles here and there, even in modern WoW. Kul Tiras stands out as a big one. As does Undermine in TWW (minus Gazlowe going all commie and the...blatently cringy fantasy cutscene that simulated a BLM protest.)

Dragonflight is irredeemable and worse than Shadowlands tonally.
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>>517659042
yeah. Elder scrolls 6 too.
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>>517661812
True, gays basically have male interests in vidya together with a female consumption pattern. The whole industry panders to them because they buy tons of skins and other trash.
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>>517660982
>>517661246
I just looked at the alliance and horde races and they both are similar now wtf.

You have elf races in both, furries, dragons. Blizzard got lazy. The new races are just light and dark of the same race.
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>>517659042
Warcraft 3 was literally perfect want more campaigns? Get a fan made one
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>>517660252
Boo hoo nigga
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>>517662474
Homosexuality seems like a rich man's disease in general
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>>517662632
People complained about the opposing sides having actual identities and themes, so Blizz blended all together.
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>>517661205
Bump for Ashenvale. Was always my fave area of the continent.
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>>517660679
Elwynn - Westfall - Duskwood mog every other starting region.

The barrens sucks and I’m tired of pretending it doesn’t.
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>>517663050
true this is official too they did "rest of the horse" for the horder starting zones
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>>517661239
Forsaken have the best Horde starting zones by far and Humans have the best Alliance zones

Dwarves lose to Nelfs but barely, just Nelfs have a good storyline imo and the ancient ruins make their zones pretty cool, but Kalimdor have literally nothing going on for Nelfs so they all need to migrate East anyway
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>>517661990
wouldn't that be bestiality? Centaurs aren't not human. They are animals.
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>>517663250
>he's not dwarf pilled
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wow for the most part sucks ass but it'd a good time waster or bar depending on your pov. I've played since 06 but these days I see the redundancy in playing this game now. I prefer to waste time playing Civ2. I've been playing Civ2 since 1995 and still enjoy it. A good time waster.
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>>517660015
Kek. That’s part of the reason I stopped playing their trash games 25 years back. They even did it with StarCraft 2 zerg.


It’s okay to have evil aligned races. Not everything has to be reflective of the current world and politics. It is like how they made a good faction for crow in DND 5e, they completely ruined the mystique of the race
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>>517663593
Drow*
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>>517663593
>DND 5e
>remove the word race from the game
>removal racial stat penalties
>reduce the need for the party to work together to offset each others weaknesses
>make everything bland and samey
>make orcs some sort of mexican stereotype
>pat themselves on the back for their sensitivity
I miss when 3rd edition used 'she' as the default pronoun and nobody cared because the rules were good.
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>>517659042
Retconning the enitre WoW tho (even the good plots)
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>>517663593
All destructive forces in blizzard games are just misdirected or "corrupted" energy. And i remember when the zerg got the carebear treatment as they don't want their factions influencing BM in their games(which it used to). They patched out all BM and griefing mechanics from their games. That's what makes games great though. Some people like playing the evil faction and some like the goodie two shoes.

Undead rogues used to be the scourge of wow. People actually cared about role playing online until they created instances. It removed the good vs evil of the factions butting heads.
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>>517659683
Nobody can stand in my way, boipussy. Not even your dieties
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>>517664393
>It kills the moose
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the horde is full of niggers. orcs are wide nosed niggers from fantasy africa. trolls are lanky island niggers. goblins are kikes.
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>>517664648
>>517663593
>>517662632
>>517661928
Just give me a drip of Mannoroths blood and I swear Europe will be white before the next Yule night o/ o/ o/
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>>517659042
You did get WC4. It's called World of Warcraft. All the way up to WotLK. Anything past that is non canon
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>>517665003
The last villain warcraft ever had was Illidan Stormrage, I never played WOW but the four core races for each faction are all they ever needed. MMORPGs are gay, RTS are cool as a casual hobby.
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despite WC3 being one of my most favourite and played game of all, story certainly isn't its strong point
American games in general have weak stories because they're simple people who need to be told who's bad and who's good to even comprehend the plot
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>>517665661
I really liked when MMOs did more to gatekeep progression. At a certain point you move beyond where the normies are allowed. I learned so much from WoW about how winners speak versus how losers speak.
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>>517664941
Horde=USSR
Alliance=Allies
>>517664965
Look how happy those murdering orcs are.
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>>517661475
For me it's welcome to the jungle, but i get what you're saying
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>>517658876
All this savages are fighting whereas we blood elves are here chilling with them belf baddies. Cheers to good times and also to our lord Lorthemar
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UTHER HAD MY THREAD DELETED!?
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>>517661181
>most iconic villain in the series history so early on in the game's life
to be fair, it had been out for 4-5 years before they killed the lich king, I don't think blizzard realised that wow would still be relevant in 2025... video games just didn't last that long back then.
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>>517666416
>I learned so much from WoW about how winners speak versus how losers speak.
elaborate on this point anon.
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I need ranger boots in OSRS give me ranger boots
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>>517665790
It had a very good story. Surprisingly good. Comparing it to some gay walking sim that is literally only story is dumb. Both starcraft 1 and warcraft 3 had excellent plots.

I really miss the oldschool terran aesthetic.
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>>517667036
I went through WC3 hot off the heels of FFX and MGS2 and was rolling my eyes at how cliched and generic the story went. I didn't know back then that all 3 games were exceptional and will still be remembered and cherished many years later.
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>>517660535
This is pretty based.
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>>517658876
Alliance buck status ?
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>>517662474
That's insightful.
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>>517661181
>>517666667
As if KT was was the true highest evil mastermind. As you notice every expansion they keep adding bigger and more sinister forces.
>>517666667
MMORPGS don't die they just rot. They are really good in the beginning as you explore new worlds and compete with other players for top position in the game. As the game gets old the monopolies form and the content stagnates. WoW survived by introducing expansions. This worked until wrath of the lich king. That's about the time i quit. They tried to lure players in with the blood elves. The most based race.
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Its really funny how in an effort to make characters greyer and "more complex" thr lore apparently makes the elves into bigger and bigger screwups and retroactively justifies Lord Garithos' ill opinion of them.
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>Scarlet Crusade is an allegory for humanity
>hated by Horde and Alliance, Scourge and everything in-between
>mogs every shithole despite being in a war-torn wasteland

They did similar to the Centaur clans/tribes, RETVRN
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>>517667183
Your expectations for a rts story should not be the same as those other games. Different medium.
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Somebody explain to me how WoW went from Halo levels of mainstream nerd/gamer testosterone patrician taste to the furry tranny guild discord infested hellhole it is nowadays?
Ive played on and off since TBC and finally deleted my entire account during Dragonflight bc what the fuck Blizzard.
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I'm still pissed at how retarded the writing was for the scarlet crusade. They really screwed the pooch on that. Such a cool faction.
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>>517659065
>>517659363
>>517658876
Centaur Pariah never got to buck break Kalimdor with the reformed Centaur clans
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>>517667708
HUMANITY.. SHALL RISE AGAIN

It's hilarious and I dont care that he was essentially a joke character. Hes better written than 99% of what they put out now.
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The newer (well probably the last 14 years) character models in WoW are hilarious. They have gay reddit faces and haircuts. As well as beefy, lesbian physiques
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>>517667727
>>517667927
Sally Whitemane can let her scar crusade on my shit, ya feel me?
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>>517667708
There's a reason why they don't dare to bring him back in any capacity unlike with every other character.
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>>517660679
Ashenvale is the best zone in kalimdor... and of course green skin niggers and kikes fuck it up.
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>>517667811
That's kinda a weak excuse is it? You can write any story you want for an RTS.
WC3's main themes are corruption brought by power and multiculturalism/collectivism, i.e. allying yourself with your adversaries to overcome a greater threat, not too unlike Star Wars, which Blizz employees at the time were huge fans of
There's almost no nuanced characters, they're either evil or good
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>>517667883
Ian Hazzikostas designed the combat rotation so he could play on a tablet. Ease of access is always a bad thing for a hobby, it allows people that don't understand to get in.
All the old guard at Blizz north were replaced by younger devs that don't know what makes sword and sorcery cool.
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>>517667883
They killed the social aspect with LFG. It was the beginning of the end.
It is still popular, probably next to FF14 the most popular one even, but I can never reach it's past glory anymore.
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>>517667883
Better options? Outdated graphics? Back when WoW was released MMOs were new to the western scene. I have played MMOs before WoW though but WoW had a million players in its hayday. Now it's used as place for outcasts of society like trannies, furries to live their lives in. They live in WoW and chat on discord. They recruit and create more of their kind in these games...
>>517668163
Because he wasn't a politically correct character?
>>517668093
Not just WoW but the entire blizzard universe. Apolitical. Asexual. Also panda race=Chinese homage who funds blizzard to destroy the west.
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>>517668504
>Because he wasn't a politically correct character?
Because he was portrayed as being wrong for his opinions, but NuBlizz has proven him totally in the right, and they can't let the new players know.
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>>517659042
It's gonna suck dick. How many times must Blizzard prove that they are incompetent, devoid of good will, pozzed and not the same company they once were?
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>>517668504
>Because he wasn't a politically correct character?
Because he was proven right all the way trough.
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>>517668351
Because it's a game. And people want to role play good or evil. Warcraft which World of warcraft is based upon has some good art and fantasy elements. That's what made it so popular. You can play warcraft first person online with millions of other people from around the world. It was an entirely new experience with home computing evolving and graphics improving, internet speeds increasing. Even though i never played warcraft i liked the fantasy elements as i have played other games in the past with the same theme.

You want nuance? Read a novel.
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>>517668504
Yea true. They have overwatch right? I hate the garish bubbly shiny bullshit. Give me feralas and scholomance. Ripped dudes and 36-24-36 chicks.
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>>517658876
I was so fucking pissed when I found out warcraft elves were just weird mutant trolls. Still can't get hard for them. Sad!
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>>517668992
I remember vividly reading a game mag, probably in 2003, and it wrote about how Blizzard is developing a new game, an online RPG in Warcraft universe, and it's rumored to have a subscription based model.
Me, 12 at the time, immediately thought "what kind of fucking retard would pay monthly to have access to a game whilst before you paid one time and could play however much you wanted, including online if we're talking WC3. Surely there aren't many retards who'd fall for this incredibly hostile business practice"? How wrong I was. Never played MMO's, never will.
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>>517659042

>made by Blizzard today

Dude... trust me... no you don't
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>>517658876

Reminder that Jaina couldn't resist that BGC
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>>517669266
You had to pay to get in like an elite club. And they kept you paying by introducing new expansions(which also cost money). It was for the experience. At the thrift store i see a bundle box for WoW with all the expansions in it combined and it was like 5 dollars. Nobody cares about WoW anymore.
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>>517658876
> GREENGGERS could be here, he thought. I've never been through this portal before, there could be GREENGGERS anywhere!
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>>517669554
Exactly, it was an experience. Not really a game, because that would need defined win and lose conditions, but rather a social network with frills masquerading as a game
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>>517669803
That's the thing though if i could go back in time i would play it again. The alternative to WoW was waging and crappy television. Sports were not popular anymore despite them being pushed heavily in the 90s. Computers were the new entertainment and thing.
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>>517670310
I'd play it today if the community collectively forgot how to meta game it and all the youtubers were gassed.
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Warcraft 3 was so good its unreal, and it still olds up today ( if you play the pe-reforged one, that is). Everything in the game was polished, smooth and well thoguht-out, and it all came at the exact point in time for a game like that (free non-woke early internet era). We will never see its like again, even if they made wc4 today everyone knows they would screw it up big time.
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>>517664941
thrall's orcs and the trolls of wc3 were literally nigger emancipation metaphors and nothing else. Thanks Metzen you jew.
Thanks for making all of the alliance IQ of 65 as a cult infiltrated and seemingly no one noticed, thanks for making them cartoonishly antagonistic to the elves for seemingly nothing just so you can have the kael plotline that went nowhere, thanks for turning Uther into a gaslighting moral busy body that can't mentor worth shit. Really Metzen is just top kike.
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>>517658876
I miss Warcraft 3 Thrall
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If someone interested, here's a youtube channel of a former Blizz employee, a wc3 developer, who's playing through campaign and reminiscing about how development went
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRrFQS9hIZg
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>>517670420
Normies always figure out MMOs then they die. The endless supply of noobs coming in(just like life really) makes the game enjoyable.
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>>517670731
Heh. Some of the most hardcore players in Vanilla WoW were alliance human.
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>>517667708
kill inhumans, behead inhumans, roundhouse kick a inhuman into the concrete, slam dunk an inhuman baby into the trashcan, crucify filthy inhumans, defecate in the food of an inhuman
only good non-human is a dead non-human
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>>517672762
baste
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>>517659693
kek i just did this quest.
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>>517660679
>leveling in EP at 3 am with headphones on
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>>517667708
>views the other races as untrustworthy and honorless
>gets stabbed in the back and betrayed the moment he allies with them
really made me think
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>>517658876
not my problem
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>>517665790
One needs to ask themselves only one question - when did games stop being actually fun?
I say mid- to late-00s.
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>>517667708
wish i could join the scarlet onslaught
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>>517661205
hated it. Enemy rogues kept messing with me when they weren't ganking me.
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I am impressed about how many replies this thread has received, I believed it will go down pretty fast. It's cool and comfy to see /pol/ loving Warcraft that much.
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>>517678470
ex wow players are pols organic base. Everyone else are just bots and Israeli shills.
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>>517676201
games are still fun if you play the 90s and 00s ones. Like Civ2.
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>>517671076
He's gone, and that feel of rescuing Grom Hellscream from the hands of the alliance, is never coming back.

The Horde has sailed.
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>>517658876
warcraft 3 and sc1 have so much aura they carried blizzard for decades
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>>517659042
Just make it as a mod to Dota 2.
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>>517658876
How come every member of Thralls war council has dual citizenship with Gadgetzan?
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>>517680746
Also; Thrall and Mankrik ran a child sex trafficking operation from the Echo Isles. Mankrik's wife threatened to expose them which is why Thrall had her killed.
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>>517680384
Lets not forget Diablo 1&2. Nothing can beat the WC/SC/Diablo themes/music/gameplay that could not be matched by anyone. Even if you had the team to do it today it would still cost multiple millions of dollars to make something of the same quality. The original creators were basement dwellers.
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>>517681132
I used to make games and basement dwell. It didn't cost me anything at all. Would be nice to a receive a little funding do it so I'm not starving and have the best equipment but I can singlehandedly develop a lot by myself and I can go much further with a few friends doing modelling, animation, art, etc. I'm good at programming/scripting, UI, gameplay mechanics, etc.
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>>517660679
>Desolace
>Felwood
>Winterspring
>Azshara
>Feralas
>Silithus
Are you joking anon, something like 40% of Kalimdor is dogshit zones that the devs couldn't even be bothered to complete. EK zones have story and soul. You can feel the struggle of the Humans and Dwarves as they fight to drive back the corruption and evil eating away at their Kingdoms. Every Kalimdor zone is either how in touch with nature the faggot nelfs/cows are or orcs being impuslive retards. It's no surprise that the best Horde race, the Forsaken, is firmly rooted in the EK. Also Garithos did nothing wrong.
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>>517681314
Yeah well the ID team that created DOOM and a few others had money from older games in addition to one of their parents extra houses to borrow but it didn't mean they were rich it just meant that the costs to do things were reduced while the money left over could stretch further. Without that support/money they would not have enough time to create DOOM/DOOM 2.

If my house was paid off i could do alot more with alot less concerns of having to back to work since in theory i could save up money at my current job for 2 years and be jobless for 5
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>>517680746
A rare land
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>>517680746
>>517680951
Unrelated but please tell me Åland isn't niggered and jeeted like the rest of this country. We almost never see any news from your island here so I don't know what it's like there. Has the autonomous status kept you safe from having migrants dumped there?
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>>517658876
kill yourself you ugly green nigger
before alliance chads fuck you in the ass again and you start crying and shitting while screaming we dindu nuffin
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>>517659042
you think you do but you dont
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>>517667708
reminder kael'thas was a bipolar retard and blizzard's writing was always absolute dogshit
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genuine question: can someone please explain how the vibe of Ashevale turned from wet moss green to gay fucking purple?
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>>517683687
>kael'thas
In hindsight he really didn't need any support to fight off the undead so allying himself with unknown at the time Naga was correctly seen as a stupid decision when in later missions it was blatantly obvious he was fighting for the same organization that put the blood elves into there situation. Once again proving garathos correct in the manner. If i was Sylvanas I would have keep him around to bring the Scarlet Crusade into the fold. If that had happened she could have avoided the Alliance/Horde all together with her forsaken faction.
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>>517661794
Trolls in Warcraft-verse were actually proto-elves.

I guess like Native-Americas, they're derived from a lesser-form of humanity that have branched off untouched by evolution...
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Lads play Guardians of Azeroth for Crusader Kings 3.

Its fucking based.
Warcraft in the CK engine.

pic related is world size with all the states.
Left is CK2 version of the original mod. Right is CK3 version.
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>>517660679
That shit is NOT comfy. It's only Ashenvale/Barrens/Winterspring/Darkshore

The rest is stockholm syndrome
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>>517684772
The deserts are just as dangerous as living in New Mexico when you are nothing but surrounded by violent natives.
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>>517659042
The only way it would ever get made:
>Blizzard decides to make it a completely standalone story (so it's not warcraft 4) with brand new characters to maybe shove into the MMO later for cross promotion, OR rehashes/adapts Wrath of the Lich King expansion (plus some early WoW content) into an RTS format - alternative story/timeline. OR reboot wow entirely, not connected to the new expansions and their spaghetti lore and storytelling. Would be like standalone but even more pulled back.
>Starcraft 3 is not as appealing, need to make more warcraft games to boost wow sales and stay relevant, much like how FF still has games and cultural relevance.
>Blizzard will do every other genre (fucking did clash of clans and card games) before a "niche" rts (no one buys RTS EXCEPT for ones with a good campaign, but those are almost never made) and exhausl the MMO (half the players are doing classic server stuff, they can rehash that for awhile, there's going to be a Classic+ despite already doing Season of Discovery which was sort of like that).

The only way it would ever be good:
>Wouldn't happen, so why bother.
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>>517684895
yep, alliance zones are undoubtedly comfier. but violent natives is the whole point of the horde
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>>517660535
>IT STILL IS AN EMPTY WASTELAND.
>WITH SHIT IN THE STREETS.
As is Johannesburg.
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>>517659161
Probably be some shit microtransaction laden battle royal/hero shooter/extraction shooter
>objective poz the neghole
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>>517659161
imagine the slop they added to starcraft 2 but amplify it by 100x now. + allied races skins of the original 4 races.
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>>517660679
Both contients have SOUL

But:

For leveling - horde is more fun, access to more dungeons, the only really shitty one is going all the way to Blackrock Mountain. Kargath is the only closest point and its deep into the alliance continent.

But for quests, Alliance is fucking peak. Duskwood is amazing and if you do Westfall, Redridge, and Elywynn they all tie together until you do the big chain quest at level 60.
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>>517676202
You guys should play his custom campaign where he takes the lead instead of Arthas.

I enjoyed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BJc_jVXz0w
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>>517660523
Roforged was the greatest travesty in the entire history of gaming and massive kick in the balls for the og community which lost the last batch of 70 IQ sandies to fill out lobbies.
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>>517659693
LMFAO, I'm so glad I left WoW years ago. That being said, it still hurts to see how (((Blizzard))) is raping the Warcraft franchise.

>>517659042
No you don't. Warcraft 4 would be the most cancerous video game ever developed.
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For me it's draenei females but the futa faggots have destroyed them.
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>>517686394
Who the hell still plays this garbage nigger kike game?
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>>517684620
>Trolls in Warcraft-verse were actually proto-elves.
I still refuse to accept this dogshit as "canon" (I know "canon" in warcraft LMAO)
basically metzen is a hack and a cuck who self inserted as a demon cum drinking subhuman
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>>517686547
just ignore the gay niggers
Imagine if blizzard was capable of thinking ahead.
They could've made the draenei join the alliance in warlords of bullshit instead of the retcon crusade but alas, blizzard is ass.
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>>517686394
wow this is really cool
cant wait to play it!
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>>517659363
>at least Thrall’s Orcs
>did nothing wrong
lol
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instead we got Tthis
ZUG ZUG WHERE DA NEXT GENOCIDE @
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>>517675719
this was a vibe, almost 60 and eyeing up strath and scholo to get my set pieces
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>>517658876
>Kalimdor is our rightful holy land, those were the words of the prophet
Um... no? The prophet just told them that a great danger is coming to Azeroth and that the only way for their tribe to survive is by sailing to Kalimdor.



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