>>517661479you are if it took you that long to figure it out
>>517661479Trump aesthetics:
>>517661479
He looks and sounds really tired, what's going on?
>>517661479he's rightlook at this uggo... Weapons should be beautiful not just efficient
>>517661648bro lookin like a final fantasy character>>517661723hes almost 80 years old and has been going for an hour
>>517661479kekThey should make golden ships
>>517661835boomer take, thats the most aesthetic ship that the USA has built
>>517661835>stealth>clearly visible>can even take photos of it
>>517661835damn he wasnt kidding
>>517661479nah you are
>>517661945i dont see why we cant have both this style and the classic style or maybe even something entirely new
>>517661835Some origami shit
The zumwalt class has been a total disaster by every possible metricWith stealth technology proving less and less reliable with every passing year and even the USAF slowly backing away from it. One must question the concept of a stealth ship to begin with.
>>517661479Is this all a build up? Are they going to announce nuking some random south american country somewhere along the way?
>>517662076because they're expensive to design and make, no reason to make a bunch of drastically different designs at once
>>517661835Weird, is it normal on a Naval ship to not be able to walk from bow to stern when you are topside? No railings either, is the crew just never supposed to go topside, like a permanently floating submarine.
>>517661955"Dear Dr. Science; when I open a can of evaporated milk, why isn't it empty?"
>>517661479He's talking about fan made romance and erotic illustrations aka "ships", like Cloud x Mario ships and Sonic x Pikachu ships. He thinks some people can do better
>>517661479You know what's funny about stealth boats? As soon as they pull out of any navy station, they've got russian subs and chinese fishing boats spotting them anywhere they go, so I don't want to hear this bullshit about stealth boats.
>>517661479Didn't he say something about bringing back the Iowa class?
cant you destroy these ships with like 10 $200 drones?
>>517662343No this is unique to the zumwalt class.The reason is that the ship is designed to have a minimal radar cross section because stealth.Oh by the way those two lumps on the front are where its guns are supposed to be. But the guns were never installed because the ammunition for them was cancelled.
>>517661479I feel like he's so much dumber this term than he was in the first term
>>517662483now THAT'S aesthetic
>>517661479Republicans won't hear any of this besides the five seconds fox news can scrape out where he isn't rambling.
>>517662343Railings add surfaces for radar to bounce off of, and no one is supposed to be on deck when the ship is deployed.
>>517661479They're not golden enough for him.
>>517661479only sexy ships pls
>>517661835>>517662581these look retarded and non-threatening>>517662483>>517662645BASED
>>517662623definitely. late 70s in age, vaxxed, stress of legal stuff during Bidens term, stress of first term, stress of the election campaign all took their toll. you can see he waffles when in front of the camera much more, not intentional sidetracks for bants or whatever, but loss of thought and then trying to cope with losing track and trying to avoid making it obvious. a president shouldn't be 80 years old. their bodies cannot deal with it.
>>517661479i was flipping through my feed and a live/news came up and first thing he mentioned something about the russia war and immediately went into>THE N WORD>there are two N words>you cant say either of them>they're both bad>we dont like themthis nigger is going nuclear
>>517662483not once he sees this picture
>>517661479he unironically pretends to be retarded so that people will talk about whatever retarded shit he said and they won't focus on whatever treasonous shit he's actually doingit's not 4d chess, it's basically 2d checkers, but somehow people still fall for it
>>517662741Of course the problem is this ship was intended to operate in a near shore capacity providing fire support. Which would mean you could easily spot it visually from the shore.The stealth aspect has been debated to hell and back though. Judging by the Navy not adopting this thinking with other ships they seem to have said "nah bruh" Honestly it did sort of work though.The radar cross section is tiny for a ship its size and its acoustics are on par with a US navy submarine.It's just that surface vessels can't stay stealthy once they're anywhere near land or another ship.
>>517661955they didnt enable the cloaking device
>>517661479These threads are usually misquotes, but if he said anything like that, what would he think of the Merrimack and the Monitor?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaKej7TmGhQ&list=RDQaKej7TmGhQ&start_radio=1
>>517661835is that the ship they initially wanted like 100 of but then the costs skyrocketed so much the amount of ships ordered kept getting cut down until the order was like 12 ships but then the ammo got so expensive due to the small number being built so they removed the main gun and now there's like 6 ships total?
>>517661479Based aesthetics enjoyer
>>517662881Eh?
TRUMP IS GONNA BRING BACK WW2 ERA NAVY TO FIGHT CHINA
>>517661648he looks like her
>>517663065Yeh thats the one. And its 3 shipsCurrent plan is to slap hypersonic missile pods in the empty space left by the guns. Assuming the USAs hypersonic missiles ever work.
>>517661723You look and sound really gay, what's up?
>>517663087our ships from WW2 would trounce whatever paper tiger ramp faggotry China is pumping out these days
>>517661479based I voted for this
>>517662923You "people" are gross.
is this the thread?
>>517661835I always found the concept of a stealth warship to be completely stupid. This thing can be seen with the naked eye miles and miles away. Any airplane flying over it is going to see it like a bright white dot in the middle of a black page. Sonar will probably find it too. You're better off either making it a submersible, or small like a cigarette boat.Half of the point of a warship is to project power. You *want* the enemy to know it's there because you want them to retreat from it. The enemy should see it and feel a sense of dread. The value in a warship is that it controls whatever space is next to it, much like how an airplane controls the space under it.
If he's retarded then I don't want to be not retarded. Haha
>>517663141kek i looked it up, it costs 4 billion+ per ship (excluding R&D costs), absolutely insane. it boggles the mind how much money is evaporated in western MIC's yet countries such as china and russia manage to build nuclear triads + the rest of a military on a fraction of the budget. i wonder if a major confrontation will eventually force western countries to just nuke private MIC's altogether by nationalizing everything like china/russia and most of the rest of the world.
>>517663012It's not meant to be useful in every situation. It's a tool for a specific job. It's more like a surface submarine than a battleship.
>>517661479Based Donald is going to bring back aesthetic battleships.
>>517663432This anon gets it.
why do magats get so bent out of shape when you mention the 80 year old acts and talks like an 80 year old man
>>517662581The guns were installed
>>517663432Wouldn't they see everything from space? So this assumes either the foe is denied space based intel due to being a tiny shithole with no money, or spacewar is over and won. Maybe they can hope for a typhoon.
>>517663432make big nasty juggernauts great again
Ships need to be mass produced. Having a small amount of these expensive ships vs having 150 cheap fast missile platforms like the Arleigh Burke class it's a no brainer in a neer peer extended naval war. Missiles and drones win modern wars.
>>517661479Each democrat voter that is violently murdered is one less race traitor.
>>517661479They're not
>>517663622He talked about spaceforce pretty extensively.
>>517663357no, this is the sex
>MAGAwhen has MAGA ever been not retarded?
>>517663729
>>517663012Boeing developed a "stealth" helicopter. Anyone remember the "Comanche." It was cancelled before mass production naturally.
>>517663483it's easier to sue the company that made the shitty missiles than to make the shitty missiles yourself
>>517661479>I'm not a fan of some ships you do.Probably an Asukafag.
no wait... he's right about this
>>517661835That looks scifi/alien af. I love it.
ENTERThey really need to build a fuck huge ship with the modern day tech.Shit would be crazy.
>>517663802that shit was pure cancer in battlefield 2042
>>517663802
>>517663432>The enemy should see it and feel a sense of dread.It is the whole damn reason they station large warships off the coast of places thinking about starting shit. Isn't this common knowledge? And it's not just Navy... the Army has their own version of it where they'll put a large tank somewhere that's taking sniper fire. TLDR - yes
>>517663432>sonarI hope you meant radar. Problem with ships is that their own radar gives them away from a far longer range than the naked eye does. When you see something at the horizon, you're basically at close range relative to modern weaponry.There's also some additional things people with no maritime or naval experience miss. Missiles and torpedoes have ranges far longer than people commonly assume. We're talking hundreds of miles for missiles and tens of miles for torpedoes.The point of missile cruisers is that they have a range that's way beyond the horizon, and this is decades old tech and torpedoes are centuries old as a concept.I'd argue that drone carrier ships will make an appearance for the same reason torpedoes took over naval warfare. You can just fire and forget, and you can't detect those tiny things.
There's no such thing as a stealth ship this isn't 1980 where we are blasting goatfuckers.
>>517661479Reenacting a famous scene I see.https://youtu.be/0mUbmJ1-sNs?
>>517662118The concept of radar stealth only exists when radar is the most powerful battlefield tool. When we have continuous globe-spanning HD satellite coverage, you're going to need to physically hide something from visual detection anymore in order for any full-spectrum stealth, I think. Stealth was dominant against radar, but we have more options now despite radar still being the main tool.
>>517661835if that was real it would be based AF but obviosuly it's AI
>>517663802That looks like the one they crashed at the bin laden compound
>>517663802This was so cool. Too bad they scrapped it.
>>517664304I don't know shit about fuck. All I know is that historically the whole value in a warship is knowing it's out there: for the enemy, to make them feel dread. For your men, to make them feel courage, as the ship is a physical tangible projection of your nation's power. Even if you're deep in shit and fighting hand to hand, you can see your flagship and hear the thunder of its cannons and you *know* that the enemy doesn't stand a chance because you already own the battlefield.
>>517661479>i'm very aesthetichow many layers of irony is this nigger on?
>>517661479Worships Jews so that should tell you.
>>517661479He ain't wrong though.They look fucking ugly in comparison to any historical battleship no matter from which era.
>>517666281he's going for the cringe-core aesthetic, he's top tier
>>517666024It's true. A lot of nations had an entire doctrine of building a navy just to keep it at port. Power projection has always been a key reason for using ships. A (functional) stealth boat is going to have another type of power projection than a large ass aircraft carrier.But you're right in principle that there's many ways to detect ships. Sonars aren't actually that bad of an example. The reason radars are so popular is resolution. In perfect conditions,you might detect something with a sonar from a really far away region, but you basically need multiple sonars for triangulation because you don't really have that much information.That's all this stuff boils down to. If they manage to make a ship that radar waves bounce off of, it has advantages. It projects power simply by not being detectable by radar.
>>517666281He's completely genuine. He's just a sub-70 IQ moron.
Imagine dedicating 4 decades of your life climbing the ranks of the military then getting flown halfway round the world to listen to these retards badmouthing you.Lol
>>517661648built for bbc
>>517667156more like sub 60, at least Biden had health excuses, Trump is at his top mental capabilities right now If only we'd have gotten Kamala elected ffs
>>517661955nuff said
>>517661835lol
>>517668273that thing looks fucking rancid
>>517668429yea rust is pretty bad
>>517668429>>517668556>>517668273all ships look like that after a few months
>>517661723Charlie's death is on his shoulders.His death was a threat to Trump hence why he quintuple downed on sucking Bibi's dick right after it happened.
>>517668827Copeyour jets also
>>517668827not really, no
>>517661835looks homemade DESU
>>517661835LOL WHAT THE FUCK
>>517664835Zumwalt class
>>517661835This is how that ship looks nowadays
>>517669427>>517669150should we really be surprised at the state of US navy?
>>517661620FPBPThis is exactly why this jewnigger board is retarded. It still doesn't quite understand this.
>>517669150Program was a complete disaster.People get defenestrated for this level of incompetence and fraud in real countries.
>>517661479Let me guess, he will demand they start building battleships again.
>>517669568It's kinda funny how libshits cry about orange guy being a pedo while Milk was an acutal boy rapist.
>>517669427Tge kack of railings at the back looks like a safety hazard
>>517669765why can't they both be shitty person?
>>517661479Yes. For the millionth time he's retarded and you whine like a little bitch about it again
>>517669983Beacuse men who fuck men's butts are deities in leftist eyes, sorry them's the rules. Even fucking boy butt is encouraged sadly enough.
>>517662118We have had stealth boats all along. They are called submarines.
>>517669646Battleships are kino and swedemalis will never understand because you were never a real naval power.
>>517670267This isnt a left vs right issue tho, or are you saying the Navy is controlled by leftists?
>>517663616It was supposed to have railguns. Huge ammo capacity because the shells required no propellant, insane range and guidance would make them as effective as missiles. Unfortunately the ammo contractor couldn't produce the shells for less than $800K each so the project was cancelled
>>517662483meh. not enough fake gold forDon's tastes.
Won't literally every single ship get pwned hard in a conventional war? It seems to me they should have gone after stealth for every ship in an age where you can spam missiles from shore.
>>517661479Yes.
>>517670894Aren't they literally chunks of steel? I could fulfill that contract ez.
>>517671073The hard part was they were supposed to be guided, which I guess they couldn't get to work
>>517670975If it actually worked, sure. It'd be a no-brainer. Problem is that you have to use really shitty materials to actually make it work.
>>517664015And it needs to fly.
>>517670975>Won't literally every single ship get pwned hard in a conventional war?Yes. Especially American ships.
>>517669150Kek, I wonder who benefited from this scam...
>>517670894No the railguns were a proposal after the original guns were scrapped. The original gun was designed to use a specific ammo type that was to be developed specifically for it.After the guns were scrapped due to the absurd cost of the ammo the navy went "hey it has a powerplant big enough for these railguns we're trying to do" and the proposal became put railguns on it. But then the railguns got scrappedSo now its hypersonic missile cells
>>517661479>>517661835He's right, ships that are eyesores by definition are not stealthy.
>>517661835i like it.looks like a brutalist castle right in the middle of the sea.
>>517661648what's the point of women or faggots doing makeup to look pretty when they still drop big smelly logs out of their assholes? human vanity is always rooted in hubris. i don't care how how some slut might look, she still takes nasty dumps and her cunt stinks.
>>517674091>her cunt stinks.Don't speak of your mother that way
Anyone that hasn't realized this brainrotted geriatric fuck is a retarded narcissist for the last fucking decade or more, hell if you didn't realize this BEFORE he even ran for president, he was always a retarded clown, you are just hopeless.
>>517674288why wouldn't i? i am sure her crusty old boomer vagina reeks and her logs are disgusting.
>>517661648>>517663128VERY cute!
>>517661479ya
>>517670389Oh they're kino alright, but pretty useless with the current combat landscape. Heck they were borderline useless in ww2.
>>517664304Artillery on ships still makes sense to me. Most countries on Earth have all their capital tied up into metropolises on the coasts.Giant artillery guns can destroy ports, bridges, power station from long range and create instant and overwhelming chaos.
>>517671419lol
>>517666281He's going for a "Tacky Mafia Boss"-vibe.
>>517661479a lot of people don't seem to understand the philosophy behind aesthetics, i'd recommend reading Friedrich Schiller's "Aesthetic Letters". tl;dr There is Nature and Spirit. Inner city black thugs are an example (one of many) of Nature. It's opposite would be an example of Spirit (hard to find these days since the world has largely ignored Spirit/Form and only focuses on utility and sexual matter ("sex appeals to Nature and natural instincts, so sex is everywhere now because it sells, and is thus utility, but it degrades the society and the Spirit)Civilization was originally built on the foundation of Spirit and Form, and civilizations crumble that lose sight of this and revert back to physical nature and primitivism.
>>517661479Yes
>>517661723he’s well known to never sleep more than 3 hours a night that’s why he always sounds like he’s on painkillers Also you know, he’s 80
>>517662116That's part of the stealth magic for radar scattering
