I want to learn about Christianity, I'm atheist for a while and looking for a faith that answers my questions. Christianity looks cool with it's culture, churches and history. Where do I begin? Is Christianity a viable alternative to Atheism?
>>517679918>>517679918What is your primary language memeflag?
>>517680037Arabic
>>517679918Best is to find your church, with a cool priest.Christianity is very similar to communism, everyone are equal, Jesus is a revolutionary, etc.For me, the Bible is full of contradictions. On the one had we have free will, on the other God decides about everything.
>>517679918>DEUS VULT
>>517681157>(((Polish flag)))
>>517679918Jesus wasn't even a real person, dummy>pic related
>>517679918Begin by watching The Passion of the Christ by Mel Gibson, then read one of the four Gospels. You don’t need to concern yourself with the rest of the Bible, as much of it is later tradition and interpretation. What truly matters is that Jesus was real, and that He did rise from the dead.
>I'm an atheist but I want to be a member of something with cool lore and aesthetics!Just start a warhammer 40k club or something nigger, jeez
>>517683328I personally like hobbit aesthetic.
>>517679918>Where do I begin?reasons.orgSince cosmic origins is a personal favorite, here's a good article I could suggest (Reasons to Believe has multiple book-length treatments of these topics, however):https://reasons.org/explore/publications/articles/translating-genesis-1-1-aristotle-or-the-big-bang-part-1-of-2
>>517679918>Where do I begin?Read this post:https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/1m0px7o/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/Alt URL (redirects to the post):https://www.truth-now.orgEverything's about to change on this planet. The October 2nd event is just two days away.
>>517683230This
>>517679918Literally (heh) just read it dude. Start with Matthew and expand from there. I think you'll find it interesting enough to feel compelled to keep reading.
>>517679918fundamental tenets of christianity is too do terrorist attacks on mormons dont worry about muslims, jews ,hindus, attack mormons
>>517680125Start at Genesis and read all the way to the book of revelations.People think this will make you a simp on the Jews but if you have even a modest reading comprehension it'll red pill you hard on the (((chosen))) people.There is a reason why (((they))) don't promote the Bible
>>517681157Do not answer a fool according to his folly,Lest you yourself also be like him.Answer a fool according to his folly,Lest he be wise in his own eyes.— Proverbs 26:4-5>Wow, I found a Bible contradiction!“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,Nor are your ways My ways,” declares Yahweh.“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,So are My ways higher than your waysAnd My thoughts than your thoughts.— Isaiah 55:8-9
>>517681157Also, free will is not a Biblical concept.Nobody, not even the fallen angels, can resist the will of God.That's literally the entire point of a full chapter in Scripture.You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?”— Romans 9:19
>>517679918Read the Gospels first, you can finish them in a week or two if you devote yourself to it in the evenings.Find a church in your area and go on Sunday. Catholic or Orthodox. Talk to people as a visitor at coffee and donuts or what have you. Most are more than happy to make your acquaintance and introduce you to fellow parishioners. Just be honest with where you are in life. You will likely be surprised just how eager they are to receive you especially if you're a young guy.I wouldn't worry about any additional reading material than the Bible, but you can start with some Christian apologia, like C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity, if you are on the fence and intellectually curious.>Is Christianity a viable alternative to Atheism?It is one of the best decisions you will have ever made in life.
>>517679918I would recommend reading the Gospel of John to start.All the best and God bless you.“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light lest his deeds be exposed. But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been done by God.”— John 3:16-21
>>517683230Do not listen to these ones.Read the entire Bible.Focus on Scripture - it is what God has given us to be genuine followers of Christ.All Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be equipped, having been thoroughly equipped for every good work.— 2 Timothy 3:16-17Most people that claim to follow Jesus will have a rude awakening in the last days.Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, in Your name did we not prophesy, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name do many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’— Matthew 7:22-23
>>517679918>Where do I begin?Philosophical arguments for monotheism Once you conclude that it can be the case, then you can investigate arguments for and against the resurrection of Jesus Christ Once you accept, then you investigate history and find out what Church you're supposed to go to (spoiler alter, it's the Catholic Church) and which canon of scripture to even adhere to
>>517679918Also, understand that salvation is by grace alone through faith and not by works.For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not of works, so that no one may boast.— Ephesians 2:8-9Works are not just referring to the works of the Law (the rules of the Old Covenant in the five books of Moses), but all efforts to earn a place in heaven by your own righteousness.This is a trap to allow people who are not right with God to feel secure, when they should not.You are not a genuine believer, if you are still working towards salvation.Understand that you must repent of ALL of your sins - everything that you have ever done naturally.Everything that we do naturally is inherently selfish and thus sinful.Genuine repentance itself is a gift from God and is a fundamental component of genuine faith.with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may give them repentance leading to the full knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will.— 2 Timothy 2:25-26
>>517685588Attend neither a Catholic nor Orthodox church.Attend a Bible-believing church (Protestant) - one that believes that going beyond Scripture is an error.Now these things, brothers, I have applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, so that in us you may learn not to go beyond what is written, so that no one of you will become puffed up on behalf of one against the other.— 1 Corinthians 4:6
>>517687065Protestant churches have gone beyond everything. Women priests, LGBT, refugees welcome etc.They have brought the church into disrepute
>>517679918Psalms?Thomas Aquinas, Godel
>>517686652>>517687065>>517687327>Giant walls of text saying "please just trust me and my interpretation bro" It's so over for you guys
>>517679918avoid roman paganism, they prey for your lust of the eyes.receive the Holy Spirit first by repentance and turning back to God, applying for a new conscience.the kingdom of God is not of this world.>>517683230The Passion is full of occult symbolism. the film is good to get a concept of the suffering Messiah but beware on the snake lying through pictures.>You don’t need to concern yourself with the rest of the Biblewhat fucking advice is that even. the Bible is the Word of God. Jesus Christ is the Word become flesh. its full of guidance and wisdom.
>>517685588>Find a church in your area and go on Sunday. Catholic or Orthodox.terrible advice, you just end up a idol (icon) worshiper.look for bible believing Christians.
>>517687858>Read the Bible and note the truth, thereof Now who said that?
>>517688072Protestants run in here tripping over their feet begging people not to be Catholic while providing no argument for why protestant framework is true Every single time
>>517688252Give your justification of a 66 book canon right now
>>517688259hey, you ran away the last time you were challenged about the vatican changing the law.>2131 Basing itself on the mystery of the incarnate Word, the seventh ecumenical council at Nicaea (787) justified against the iconoclasts the veneration of icons - of Christ, but also of the Mother of God, the angels, and all the saints. By becoming incarnate, the Son of God introduced a new "economy" of images.Source: https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P7F.HTM
>>517688356give a justification to not include the Book of Enoch even tho Peter and James referenced it.
Proof the Bible is the word of Godhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVI1 Cor. 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntcRomans 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”Jesus Christ is God who has come to earth from heaven in the flesh. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and is now in heaven. John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Romans 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. John 10:28: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Either choose this evil world and be punished along with it, or choose to submit to the will of God and be saved. Your own deeds, no matter how good you think they are, can NEVER justify you. You're corrupt and need to be saved. Romans 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in what HE did for you. Only He can wash away all of your sins with His blood. Salvation is a gift, it can't be earned. Do you choose the righteousness of God or your righteousness? Heaven or hell?Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbPchtYsXNohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS78mFJcvhQ
>>517688435Icons are literally low tier debates and it's retarded to even stick your head over there as a protestant, zoom the fuck out and just figure out if the papacy is true or not You're spinning your wheels on something that, even if you accept, you'll just find a new thing to seethe over It's papacy or nothing, go look at the debates over it >>517688501Because the Church did not find them inspired (this does not mean they are evil or that there are not true things in them, or that previous versions were actually inerrant but did not survive)
>>517688784>It's papacy or nothing, go look at the debates over itDaniel 724 As for the ten horns,out of this kingdom ten kings shall arise, and another shall arise after them;he shall be different from the former ones, and shall put down three kings.25 He shall speak words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and shall think to change the times and the law;and they shall be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.26 But the court shall sit in judgment, and his dominion shall be taken away, to be consumed and destroyed to the end.>and shall think to change the times and the law;the vatican changed the commandments from keeping the Sabbath Holy to keeping the Lords day Holy, changing the times.the vatican changed the commandments to not have graven images of whats in heaven or on earth to allow icons and idols.God warned you about the anti christ, yet you call him your Holy Father. come out of babylon to not be destroyed.worship the Lord your God only.
>>517688784book of Enoch is insanely inspired even prophesying the Messiah and bringing in gentile nations into the fold.Peter and James thought it was valueable, otherwise they would not reference it.seems like your false shepards are in error.
>>517689130I can't help you You are so off base, you're making up your own interpretations of our councils now Your entire paradigm is out of whack, you literally do not get it No amount of seething and begging people to not be Catholic will make your erroneous position true
>>517689344I just quoted the Word of God to you and linked to YOUR vatican to show how he is the thing God warned you about.do your fucking homework or be destroyed. no, praying to Mary wont help you.I dont do this to attack you or your church or lifestyle, I fear for your soul.
>>517689480You literally cannot comprehend the possibility that your interpretation of text is not infallible I can't help you
>>517689708just add 1 and 1 together.you cant even refute what I posted and just chalk it of as "individual" interpretation when its clear as day.vicar of Christ literally means man in place of Christ.open your fucking eyes. your into an anti christian system.
>>517689857Dude take a look at yourself You are freaking out, I talk to you people all the time and I've done this a million times, me effort posting is not going to do anything Your mind is made up, you're just here to seethe and say "nuh uh" to anything someone tells you
>>517679918>I'm atheist for a while and looking for a faith that answers my questions.This is some kind of atheism larp but I am an actual atheist. Christianity like all religions are ancient fairy tales, they don't represent any kind of "truth." They represent a primitive time and therefore a primitive understanding of the world. There is no substitute for reason, thought, the scientific method, and an understanding of the natural world.
>>517690020bro, Im sitting in a comfy chair, chilling and listening to "Demons, Principalities, What do the Powers of Darkness Fear? — Part 2 | Michael Heiser" on youtube.Im not freaking out, no matter how bad you want to believe it.some people need to learn the hard way I guess. you cant even refute me.you are proud in your idol worship and blasphemies.
>>517679918Just dont listen to the zionist dispensationalist protestant are talking about in this thread, they are basically jew lovers that actually believe the jews invented christianity or something and that the end of times its all about the country of Israel, read the gospels, look for actual churchs (better if orthodox and it seems you are probably close to some) and just remember that to live as a christian and follow christ is not going on sundays to a tedtalk and some indie pop music with the word Jesus on it but an actual effort to keep the teachings of christ in your day to day. Another thing that some protestant omite is the fact that the orthodox church and even catholics are 90% scriptures or summaries and 10% sermon, thats a funny way to make them sola scriptura arrogants cope kek
>>517690195>Bro I'm not mad I'm just here seething and slandering you when you didn't even do anything to me Well I hope you have a good day anon
It blows my mind that in the year 2025, when we have rovers on Mars, superconductors, and satellite internet, we are still stuck in the same mythology that was intended for an illiterate medieval peasant.
>>517690325I do, praise be to the Lord Jesus Christ.keep running the hamster wheel of roman catholicism for your security in salvation and peace.
>>517690469I pray you grow in humility
>>517690600do so for yourself first. you need it more.
>>517690364But did you made those inventions? Oh right you were shitposting on /pol/, so the thruth is that if all we are is evolve mammals you must be really retarded and probably wont even reproduce your genetic or even memetic code for future generations. You could always accept christ in your heart and realize that you are loved or you know keep talking like a jew.
>>517690469"Christ" refers to a jewish messianic prophecy. He was supposed to be a great warlord that would unite the jews and throw off Roman rule, and then establish a jewish empire using the sword. That prophecy is what you're worshiping bro. In fact after jesus died numerous people came out of the woodwork claiming to be the "christ" and they lead various rebellions against Rome which got crushed. Why are you worshiping this stuff? It's some backward desert tribe shit, it's not even European.
>>517690646>BRO I'M SO HUMBLE, I'M MORE HUMBLE THAN YOU ARE, THAT'S HOW HUMBLE I AM, YOU SHOULD GET MORE HUMBLE LIKE I AM Alright man
>>517690706Low iq bait, at least make it fun faggot
>>517690759He literally said "n-no u" lmao
>>517679918Seek "Traditionnal Catholic Faith"And the FSSPX and "Monseigneur lefebvre"You will learn a lot.
>>517690652Long winded way of calling someone an incel. The bible is filled with contradictions, errors, and blatant mythology. It's not even well written. It's like demanding someone believes the scribblings of a child as absolute fact. You look like retards. You are a modern person that is believing something intended for an illiterate medieval peasant.
>>517690759>praise the Lord Jesus Christ>bro, where is your humility, be humble!like dude. are you even self aware?so am I not allowed to praise and worship the Lord Jesus?
>>517690706>He was supposed to be a great warlordand he isnt?demons and satanists have to labour non stop and cant even prevent people coming to him. looks like satan is a defeated and desperate.
>>517679918Redeemed Zoomer on YouTube explains the various denominations very well. Find which one you vibe with the most, then start going to church at the nearest one to you and reading your bible. All you really need to do.
>>517690938Dude you can go scroll up and reread everything you said instead of trying to gaslight me and yourself that you're actually a humble and pious guy No hard feelings though
>>517691075If Isam conquered Europe and oppressed Europe in darkness for a thousand years, and we finally started breaking out of it. You'd be here demanding that we all be Islamic and how traditional Islam is. It's not European. It's a foreign desert religion
>>517691167>I do, praise be to the Lord Jesus Christ.>keep running the hamster wheel of roman catholicism for your security in salvation and peace.that was from me>I pray you grow in humilitythat was from youso please tell me how you think I lack humility based on those statements.
>>517690903I know this is bait, must be really boring to live in a stable country or I guess is the fact that your country it's ruled by jews, dont worry, we are having the same issue over here, except for the stable economy part. All I can tell you is that based on your naturalistic secular point of view all you make me think of you is that you put the technological advances of the human races that you are not even part of in a high pedestal not even understanding the half of it and that you live your life thinking there is nothing beyond what you can sense which tells me you have blinded yourself to the fundamental philosophical questions humans have had since millenia. Can't help you there.
>>517691286pretty sure my ancestors converted to God after worshiping forest spirits and then sacked rome and formed the HRE.idk, but seems like the God of Israel is the real and true only God.
>>517691309It's based on the entire interaction, fren
>>517679918What denomination (the fact this must even be asked is proof yahweh isn't real btw)?
>>517691493You are a fanatic. You demand to believe in a lie intended for someone with a 3rd grade education who worked the fields in the medieval era.
>>517691543so me warning you about the vatican and your blasphemies is, what? proud?youre literally cucking to some guy who calls himself replacement god on earth.what is wrong about that? or not humble?warning people about the enemy is my fucking job according to Jesus.
>>517691597Damn, fucking jews are on a roll lately. Is that war really worth it?
>>517691632bro we cant even figure out how people build the pyramids. do you think jeet AI is the big next brainchild of humanity after lead gasoline and microplastics?your fucking retarded and deluded on how retarded people actually are.go collect monopoly money or whatever.
>>517679918If you want answers, study physics. Incoherent desert babble will get you nowhere.
>>517691729My brother in christ, just read about dispensationalism, understand and humbly accept you have been lied to and look deeply, actually deeply into what Catholicism actually is about, I'll bet you are not going to find Zeus workship, reptilians and the other stupid stuff evangelical pastors talk about, than look into eastern orthodoxy and just embrace the trhut, actually be humble about it, arrogance could be your spiritual death.
>>517691925Funny thing is that most if not all of the greatest scientist and engineers of history end up realizing that there must be a greater creator, and the funniest part is that most end up in christianity, who would had thonk
>>517691729Villainizing people has never worked as a viable method of evangelization It may be a cultural thing you inherited to behave that way but that doesn't persuade anyone The objective is to convert people to your worldview, and your method does not work, it's off-putting If the truth is on your side then just be civil rather than attacking people (especially if it may be the case that you are in error on some things)
>>517691493After yet another human rebellion at the tower of babel humans were given over to worship a pantheon of lesser rulers which in turn rebelled against God themselves so God destroyed their authority and called all people back to Jesus Christ who is God Himself.As Paul writes know you not that we will judge angels and in another place in the bible it is written that though they be gods they will die like men.
>>517691974Im not a dispensationalist and never was. Im not an american.also dispensationalism was invented by the jesuits who are vatican lapdogs.>I'll bet you are not going to find Zeus workship, reptilians and the other stupid stuffno, they are actual satanists. you cant be friends with them like eastern orthodox are.this has nothing to do with not being humble, its loving the truth and studying what the Lord gave us in Revelation.religious pride and legalism were always at odds with God. lust of the eyes and lust of the flesh. icons, big cathedrals etc, but deep down they all bow to satan one way or the other.God wants a personal relationship with you, not praying like pagans do.
>>517684954Don't push medieval forgeries on the guy.
>>517692203Like I told him, arrogance could be his spiritual death, may Christ guide him in his quest for truth, assuming he really is looking and not just absorving crazy ideas. Even tho im not a papist I understand the frustration he might made you feel right now.
>>517691766>the divine truth has a million different versionschristkeks are so funny
>>517692203its the vatican that declared war on true believers in the council of Trent. you are the attacker.the whore of babylon being drunk on the blood of saints.90% of catholic sermons is raging about protestants anyway.
>>517691974Catholocism has a long history of torture, genocide, and oppression. They are like a caricature of "evil religion".>killed protestants whenever they found them>purged the aristocracy in a series of witch trials, where people were tortured to death >launched the 4th crusade which sacked Constantinople and let Islam take over the Balkans for the next 800 years>would literally kidnap young girls and lock them in nunneries regardless of their parents wishes>would castrate young boys to use in church choirs as castrato >threatened scientists for daring to disagree with their primitive ideas from the bible>destroyed Latin America in a frenzy of forced-conversions and mass-rape to produce the abomination of society that exists there todayAll throughout history it's atrocity after atrocity and it's catholics all the way down.
>>517692372We can't help him, he's made up his mind and cannot fathom that he may be in error somewhere along the line of his thinking >I understand the frustration he might made you feel right now.I'm used to it, it sucks but maybe things turn around for him in the future
>>517692219I know, its one of best aspects of the gospel. had my fair run in with some old spirit over germany mainly responsible for war.
>>517692339Not gonna argue with you my German Fren, I already had this same conversation with the woman I married, she used the exact same wording as you are using right now. Also you are increible wrong about dispensationalism yet follow it to a tee and of course actually believe in the "goody good friend jesus my pal and my bff relationship with him". All I can tell you is that I'll be praying for you.
Yes you should
>>517692173Assuming there is a creator god, Jewish fairy tales are not a reliable guide to its nature. The idea that a would-be Jewish tyrant is the savior of humanity has negative utility. Grothendieck having a psychotic break and delving into Russian monastic traditions does not change either of these facts.
>>517681157>everyone are equalthat's not in the bible, heretic. everyone is equal insofar as everyone needs Jesus and no one can earn their salvation, but that's as far as that equal business goes. read the bible for yourself and commit yourself to Jesus Christ as your Lord (i.e. boss) and your Savior (because of the cross).And be sure thar no church is perfect now, so when you go and somethings are "off" or "wrong" stay focused on Jesus and the Holy Scripture and you'll see God do amazing things in your heart and your life. Try your hardest to find a church that prays together, and prayers for each other.
>>517679918Just listen to this and you’ll know more about Christianity than 90% of all Christians.https://youtu.be/PKiAXVxOm6o
>>517692448>90% of catholic sermons is raging about protestants anyway.We literally do not do this and we do not think about you guys whatsoever
>>517692372>you can lose your salvationanother heretical teachings.Jesus and God the Father lose no one or snatch out of their hand.humans cant keep their salvation on their own, you are held by the Father at all times.either you are of God given to Christ or not.if you have to work for salvation I have bad news for you.
>>517692745>another heretical teachings.>Says who? Me and my interpretation Alright imma head out, good talking to you I guess
>>517692681never heard a cath sermon mentions protst. protcaths on /pol/ have their meltys about prots because jelly of prottie intimacy with Holy Spirit, but thank God that charismatic renewal available to caths too, so no need to get bent.
>>517692482Literally all of those are based
>>517692628>increible wrong about dispensationalismwhy?dispensationalists think some jews will have their land back and build a 3rd temple.I tell people the vatican is the whore of babylon like the bible teaches.
>>517692681I listen to catholic teachings and sermons some times.they still seethe about Luther non stop. the dude is dead so you have to hate on protestants because they delegitimize your false doctrines.>>517692827God said so himself. take it up with him. you cant lose your salvation, your in the hand of God after all.or do you think he is not all powerful?
>>517679918>Where do I begin?https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRj8AJuzeJRwHdeFua3pzmwPB_JCS0mIqTTB.orgPic related is the baseline.
>>517692909I've crashed out before but it's not about jealously of anything, it's always from slander and strawmen, etc There's nothing to be jealous about, from our point of view, protestantism looks shallow and barren (This is not meant to be an insult, I'm just trying to give a description of our perspective) >charismatic renewalThat's weird and most of us view it as a weird thing that seems sketchy but I guess some people are into that, idk if it'll stick around though, seems more like a liberal boomer thing
>>517680125Here.
>>517692745idk anon. what then is "great falling away" (2 Thes. 2:3) if they were not "within" at one point. apostates can't into apostasy if not at one point in faith and sound doctrine, desubetter take heed to yourself lest you not be steadfast, and endure to the end. (trust God and keep looking to Him, and He will keep you.)faith = lookingbehold! the lamb!>if we could only see the Man, with eyes like flames of fire. He is Son, He is the wonder.
>>517682247>The (((author)))
>>517692504Had the same problems with my wife, thank God she actually opened her eyes in the end, lets hope he will too. >>517692639Good thing christianity is not a Jewish fairytale, perhaps you should read more history and less physics, but I really doubt you even read those kind of stuff>>517692745Good luck fooling God I guess, I won't be your judge at the end of the day. >>517692827Yeah this guy is lost. Or a troll. Good thing I can just close 4chan an enjoy my family kek
>>517693205>protestantism looks shallow and barrenWasn't always, but that's a fairly accurate appraisal at this point.
>>517693205leaving aside our differences, you go get yourself filled afresh with the Holy Spirit, anon. go get into that charismatic renewal.
>>517693281its in the bible, read it1 John 218 Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour.19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us. 20 But you have been anointed by the Holy One, and you all have knowledge.the falling away part was never with God in the first place.
>>517692482Lmao ok here's your (((you)))
>>517692448> 90% of catholic sermons is raging about protestants anywayYeah nah mate. Sounds like something Protestants would definitely do about Catholics though nice tryYou guys and Orthobros can be mega insufferable. Do you research and realize the Catholic Church is the one and true church. I love when Orthobros cope about the Nicene Creed. B-b-b muhhh ethno-cope church is so universal broooo>>517692482Here we go>muh 4th crusadeWhat is the Massacre of Latins which occurred before the 4th crusade? Couldn’t have had much to do with thatAnd who after all ended up defending Christendom across Europe with no thanks to the useless Pacifist Orthodox? Orthodox need to learn their place and stay in their monasteries and kindly shut the fuck up
>>517693316read the bibleJohn 1028 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me,[a] is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”God will never lose you if you are truly of God.
>>517693399>charismatic renewal.I don't know much about it but its origins are sketchy and protestant related and I'm suspicious of the whole thing The Latin mass is nice, I would recommend it even if you don't plan on converting, it's something unique and maybe you'll get something out of it
>>517693316>Had the same problems with my wife, thank God she actually opened her eyes in the endyeah, good job dragging another person down with you I guess.
>>517693593no church that has to say "I am the one true Church" is the true church. the true Church simply is and doesnt have to claim so.
>>517693316Glad to hear about your family, I'll pray for you guys and please pray for me
>>517693483oh sorry I don't want to return to the dark shroud of catholocism.
>>517693758Read your fucking Bible you midwit.
>>517693596I have, it's actually a big part of orthodoxy, almost like if they made it a book out of all those manuscripts and letters, crazy huh Fun thing is that you as a avid reader of the Bible ignore the parts that actually give validity to the church as an institution but again, good luck fooling God when your times comes. I guess He will laugh with you and eat some chucrut in the new Jerusalem or whatever is dispensationalist believe. See ya
>>517693842yes, I read Revelation just yesterday.the roman catholic church is the harlot and babylon with the vicar of christ who claims to be god on the throne.good read, give it a try.
>>517693679>brings my wife in the mocking of the church because he has no more argumentsMust be really hard having not guide other than evangelicals pastors with no consistency
>>517693663just know that no matter how far you backslide away from the Way, the blood of Jesus rescues us to the uttermost, and we can, poor in spirit and humble in heart, return to Our Father who loves us, because while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. So don't any-anon get any fool idea that since they are now living far from agreement with God's Way and His Truth, that it means you are not right now welcomed into this International Family of Affection, and though Christ amazing grace, into adoption as a son of the Most High God. Don't wait. Tomorrow is promised no man.
>>517693994>Here's what Revelation actually means bro>>517693842We can't help him dude, this entire thread was us trying and he just isn't there right now, you can try if you want but it's not likely to be fruitful
>>517679918>Is Christianity a viable alternative to Atheism?no.
>>517693316The Old Testament is a book of Jewish fairytales meant exclusively for Jews. The New Testament is the story of a failed would-be Jewish savior destined to establish Jewish supremacy over the globe, playing out the template laid by the rants of a schizophrenic Jew living in exile that dreamed of a Jewish reconquista that never came to pass, that failed so miserably that its failure had to be repackaged as the redemption of mankind itself.This semi-mythical story of a desert tribe is of no value to anyone. It answers absolutely no questions.
>>517693994Literally like un ironically an actual dispensationalist understanding of the bible, amazing>>517694127I'm done, gonna eat some choripanes with my family and pray for him this week, probably gonna talk with the father on Sunday about how to approach this kind of thing next time, I can't be like our German friend that have a direct phone line with Jesus
>>517694192That's called evangelicalism and it was invented in the last 100-200 years It's globally irrelevant but it was invented in America so that's why most of your exposure to "Christianity" is this heresy that supports circumcision and the state of Israel
>>517679918Go with the fsspxThey are still true to the orginal
>>517693596>read the bibleWhat convinced you that the bible was true? Because the bible said it was true? If I wrote "everything I write is true" would you believe it?
>>517693891weird that you see something like having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ as a joke.>>517694086weird that you dont have the concept of the Holy Spirit indwelling as the bible teaches.let me ask you, is your religion just some practice you do every week without constant change in your life and without personal guidance by God?if so I question if you are a true believer in the first place. you are proud and slanderous, rather relying on teaching of men instead of God.
>>517694296>I can't be like our German friend that have a direct phone line with JesusKek'd inb4 he takes that literally and runs with it lmao Anyway, I'm out of here too, gotta go to confession actually, nice talking with you anon
>>517694127>>517694296hey man, you are the ones that dont see a problem with a man calling himself "Holy Father" ruling in rome.
>>517693994> conveniently ignores the key being given to Peter for THE church > ignores ecumenical councils and Nicene Creed>Not plural churches. You have no claim to Apostolic success and Protestant churches have been pushing some of the least biblical truths in the past few decades. Kindly STFU for you know not what you speak.
>>517694376God proves it to you since it talks about what is happening to you after being born of the Holy Spirit.
>>517679918pagan shitskin religion where they get you to believe in it through fear, don't do it. Only reason Christianity is still popping is cause of edgy 14 year olds who hang out on 4chan and Instagram who think edits of Jesus is cool. It's another religion that tells you to look down on other religions, that tells you that god magically decided what is good and bad and a religion that has to advertise itself. Also Christianity is a continuation of Judaism. It's shit, just live your life.
>>517679918How the fuck people call themself atheists without basic readings. Universal compulsory education was a mistake.
>>517694512apostles have no successors. each is chosen by the Holy Spirit specifically. read Acts.and no, Peter was not the rock, the rock was a literal mountain they were standing in front of.Jesus declared war on satans kingdom in that famous verse.Peter was a brother and apostles like all the rest, not above them.
>>517694408Again, it's ok brother, you don't actually have to boast about how you are better because you found christ, I actually understand and humble in the fact that im a sinner and need my savior, every single point you are making is not new to me. Also I just saw the other post so I'll answer here, I already told you im not a papist but my brother in christ >>517694473 and I can't have difference but understand what our lord actually gave us when he came. Let your arrogance don't blind you forever my German fren, It could be the end of your soul and even as a protestant that concept should not be alien to you, YOU CAN IN FACT LOSE YOUR SALVATION. Bless you guys im out
>>517694302>That's called evangelicalism and it was invented in the last 100-200 yearswell when evangelicals are called out by other christians and replaced, I will consider it
>>517694613You were indoctrinated with this religion as a child and so you irrationally believe it for no reason. Just like a Muslim, or a hindu
>>517694510Bro, you guys do this "drive-by" method where you pull up and start dumping all the same points and we already know that if we start effort posting on one of them, you guys instantly dump out 3 more Talking to you guys is like trying to give an entire theology course in 1 thread, where you get to dictate what the teacher works on and when to abandon your entire point and then move onto 3 more The good news though is that having to deal with this has actually helped some people (such as myself) get good at dealing with itSo despite you doing all this and then sitting back until it's time to throw out your next point, we are being trained in apologetics by just interacting with the same points over and over again
>>517694808so you are just bitter because you go all through the motions without God responding.sounds like the basic Cain and Abel thing.have you tried actually REPENTING?
>>517694919>brings Cain and Abel in a conversation about Christianity I dont know what else to do american Fren, if you are still around, good luck
>>517694815>well when evangelicals are called out by other christians and replaced, I will consider itOh we know, bro We know, we're working on that, we're starting to actually make some progress now that the pandemic shook everyone into questioning the very pillars of their worldview We're on the job
>>517694808so youre friends with a papist. a true orthodox at hearth, bowing to the harlot mother.do your empty rituals, confessions and masses. we will all see what will be stubble and hay and what will be gold and jewels in the judgement.
>>517694907youre late to confession.hurry up roman drone, there is no salvation without mass in your doctrine, bow to rome or lose your salvation.
Bible contradictions 1Jesus has 2 genealogies which totally contradict and have huge errors in them
>>517694907>get good at dealing with ityou cant even refute that the vatican legalized idolatry lmao. last time you had to run away too. now go, no salvation outside of your specific church, remember?
>>517695012works based salvation vs faith based salvation. its simple.cain presented works of the field, abel provided the blood of the first of the flock.one rejected, the other accepted.if you dont present yourself as a living sacrifice on the altar of God how can you be sure he is pleased with your sacrifice?
>>517690151It's a christcuck, they always do this on /lit/, pretend to be athiests to drum up interest in jew worship.
>>517695288Bible contradictions 2Jesus gets 2 different birth stories.In one of them he's like a European king rising to the throne through prophesy. In the other he's like a jewish refugee fleeing for his life. These stories were intended for different audiences. Luke was writing for a gentile audience, Matthew was writing for a jewish audience. You can't stitch them together even if you tried. The passages don't have enough wiggle room for that.
>>517695288one is the genealogy of Joseph, the other is of Mary.
>>517695076So Jesus was a hypocrite for been close and save prostitutes, thieves and other "bad" people? You are telling me I cant be friends with people that think different than me? You are showing your true colors my friend, i would suggest as an actual heart to heart suggestion that at the very least go talk to the guy that runs your church. You really need to chill out kek
>>517695505Bible contradictions 3Jesus meets Simon Peter under 2 completely different circumstances. In one account he's driven into the wilderness after his baptism and then finds him on the shores of Gailee where he works as a fisherman. In the other account, Jesus is just wandering through town the next day after ht baptism and finds Simon Peter in the town, where he's a disciple of John the Baptist.
>>517695574wdym?the entire reformation is about the fact that the roman church is anti christian to the core.the roman church didnt want to reform and thus declared everyone who doesnt follow their lead as a heretic.they have been open enemies of believers ever since.
>>517695410Damn, I guess you win. This sunday I hope you tell your pastor that you totally destroyed an orthodox and a Catholic in a epic debate on /pol/ with your flawless theology I dont even know how to procede. You are far gone my friend.
>>517695555You can try to explain it away. But it doesn't change these facts1) Matthew got his count wrong. He believed there was this 14/14/14 pattern that was so amazing, but he fucked up his counting. He even seems to have deleted names from his list to make the count work, but still fucked it up.2) They both have huge problems compared to the Old Testament geneology.
>>517695722Bible contradictions 4Jesus is crucified on 2 different days of the year, at 2 different times of the day
>>517679918Read The Bible, King James Version, from start to finish beginning at Genesis and going through Revelation. That's the correct answer as you want to see the progression of the whole story from start to finish in a good translation. After that I think it would be a good practice to read a chapter daily to feed your spiritual hunger and keep yourself right with the Lord thy God.
>>517695772>bring back the great schism because a catholic and a orthodox are able to talk like normal persons and are actually talking about theology and not just zionist dispensationalism Ok, again, good luck fooling God.
>>517695904Bible contradictions 5Accounts of the resurrection are a complete mess, almost schizophrenic. All 4 gospels tell wildly different stories that don't match and often directly contradict.One major contradiction is that Jesus is resurrected in 2 different places.In Luke and John, he meets them in Jerusalem and even orders them not to leave Jerusalem under any circumstances. But in Mark and Matthew he meets them in Galilee. The intention behind this is that Mark and Matthew were preaching to a jewish audience, so they wanted to establish the relligion as a local religion for the galilean people. While Luke and John were preaching to a gentile audience, and they wanted to move the resurrection to Jerusalem which is a city ruled by the Romans
>>517695811do you think I take pleasure in this and jump around?I am in awe and fear of how deluded people actually are in these days. I received the Holy Spirit 6 years ago and am just agast at the fact that so many church goers and so called christians are such enemies of God and his Word.its like you want to be part of a congregation but every christian is just a ravenous wolf.I am pleased I met so many true believers over these years too who I can share and agree with easily. its like there are two camps, those that are saved by God and follow him like sheep and those who are not and just larp as christians like some religious ritual.its horrifying and wonderful the same.
>>517696135see, this is the sad state how fake christians have to argue. its so sad.
>>517694337What church you go to makes no difference. The central value of Christianity is identifying with the loser. Whatever "based and redpilled" church you go to is only delaying the inevitable. Ruinous empathy is the cornerstone of Christianity.
>>517696190Ok, again, you win my friend, may you enjoy eternity in the great Jerusalem and pet lions and take fish out of the water. I guess I'll just keep doing my satanic rituals that the apostles used to do, Traditions truly are the dead of modern civilization or something
>>517680125Hard one
>>517685327He said, UNIRONICALLY, whilst shilling for a religion with the same deity, from the same tribe, and same culture, and thinks he's free of (THEIR) tricks!Have you tried not believing in magic, anon?It might make your shit less retarded.>>517685403Just want to add what a fucking self own it is to have a book that REDEFINES THE MEANING OF THE WORD FOOLISH(one who accepts weak claims from unreliable sources)and thinks its a winning move!:PYou fags probably have rabbi-mutilated cocks.
>>517682247Yes, He was. Even with all of the jew strangelhold on all media and academia the (entirely jewish) heretics claiming there is no historic evidence for Jesus Christ as a historical figure are still classified as "fringe theorists promoting pseudo-science."
>>517696273>fake Christians is when my theology is flawedOk
>>517695772>>517696273He's right. You can't fight corruption by fleeing it, because you still have the elements of the corruption within you. You have to develop antibodies to the corruption.This is why Protestantism is in such a ruined state today, despite being very highly respected long ago because the movement was founded with the highest intentions.The Church must unify, and that means holding a spiritual court with every Church leader present. Certain sects of Protestantism must be declared heresies, and their institutions smashed. Every man is not a pope, but in Protestantism, this has become the case. It has no authority or unbroken tradition like Orthodox and Catholocism do. These Churches are two branches of the same tree.
>>517696460from all the traditional churches I through the orthodox were the least duped and open to dialogue with reformed christians. guess I was wrong, just another vatican lap dog after all. sad.
>>517685588It's THE best decision you could ever make.
>>517696575>theology and traditions will save me
>>517696602>The Church must unifyunify under who? Jesus Christ or rome?those that chose rome are not with Christ.
>>517696630Jesus has 2 fucked up geneologies, 2 contradicting birth stories, 2 contradicting crucifixion accounts, and 4 contradiction resurrection accounts.The bible is filled with silly stuff like pic related.Why do you think this book is accurate? Why do you believe in the global flood?
>>517696602I wish I could like post on 4chan. But been serious, our German friend literally have all the points you can easily refute without much thinking, I just hope he stop his quest to fool God on his judgment day.
>>517696823If that post wasn't enough to convince you, then you are a LARPer with a wicked heart. Goodbye. I'm done with you.
>>517696155>accounts written years after the events narrated to those who had no seen them by simple men who were touched by the literal hand of GodOn your death bed tell the story of your life, in a land not of your birth perhaps thousands of miles away for where something profound happened 50 or more years before.That account copied centuries later into a language that wasn't spoken at the time by those involved I suspect there might be an bit misinterpretation on the finer details eh?
>>517696870>literally have all the points you can easily refute without much thinkingyou didnt refute anything this entire time.you called me a dispensationalist and then strutted around like you won.post some fucking scripture to back yourself up.
Moses and the Israelites would kill entire Canaanite villages and take the young girls as sex slaves. In this case they say "young virgins" but in a historical context this would probably mean girls younger than 12
>>517696958so you chose rome, got it.
>>517697044False witness. A sin.
>>517697010Based and was wives actually
>>517697099then say it clearly.unity under rome or Jesus Christ? which is it?
>>517683230>Begin by watching The Passion of the Christ by Mel GibsonNever watch this ever, who associates Mel Gibson with being a good Christian? And the movie quality sucked, so embarrassing to Christians>read one of the four Gospels. You don’t need to concern yourself with the rest of the Bible, as much of it is later tradition and interpretation.WTF this is what I was going to say (except i read it as READ ALL FOUR GOSPELS, DOES NOT TAKE LONG). We are a GOSPEL religion. There are four GOSPELS (THE GOOD NEWS), we are here to spread the GOSPEL. Anything outside of the GOSPEL does not matter and is just distracting you from the GOSPEL>>517690278>read the gospels, look for actual churchs (better if orthodox and it seems you are probably close to some) and just remember that to live as a christian and follow christ is not going on sundays to a tedtalk and some indie pop music with the word Jesus on it but an actual effort to keep the teachings of christ in your day to day.This part of his post was excellent but he needs to quit hating on the protestants. WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM HERE. WE ARE ALL FOR CHRIST. WE ARE ALL CENTERED ON CHRIST.
>>517696630So let me understand, im a rome lap dog because im not chimping out when i talk to a protestant or a catholic because your anecdotal experience (which is probably not true since you would never visit a "satanic" church) says we dont like dialogue. Amazing mental gymnastics >>517696731Also using the meme of a dead guy but hey you are saved so its ok to mock dead people or something >>517697008Sola scriptura its so cute, Im going to give it to you, protestants truly memorize their bibles, sadly wont understand half of it. But like >>517696958You are probably just a larper. Good baiter tho a master debaiter
>>517696974It's just bullshit dude. Jews lie about everything, what are the odds their religion is also a veil of lies and untruths? Science gave us everything, the ability to fly. Religion gave us holy wars
>>517697010Why did fucking Romans have conqured these degenerates instead of good old delendaesting.FUCK
>>517697161The text literally says saves, but ok bro.Yeah the jews owned and traded slaves, that's in the bible.
>>517697238>>517685588>Read the Gospels first, you can finish them in a week or two if you devote yourself to it in the evenings. Find a church in your area and go on Sunday. Catholic or Orthodox. You need Catholic or Orthodox as your base. Most of the other mainstream churches are just liberal alternatives of those two. All are all cool to explore and go to as well, but make sure you are based in Catholic or Orthodox so you know what right of center is, because those two make sure to stay a good distance right of center (they are overall historically progressive in that they don't think what they taught in 1500 works for 2050 as it's a whole different world, they are just like big massive ships that take forever to steer so they lag behind center a good bit. Plus those two have all the history and rich writings that continue to this day. The rest of the churches are willy nilly in comparison but still centered on Christ and take advantage of them on the side (just make sure the pastor isn't nuts, there are a lot of nutty pastors out there). I love going to as many churches as I can each Sunday, often just all Catholic/Orthodox
>>517697254>not a single bible quoteyou talk theology and traditions, but did you ever actually read the bible?
>>517697238Dont hate but as you can see our german friend here its a perfect example of the problems that modern evangelicals bring to christianity. Thats why traditions are important. The best part is that this is not even "cultural tradition" since Christ let us all be part of his kingdom. A kingdom needs order and strong minded people, you can find all about it reading Paul and Peter
>>517697226First repent of your false witness.
>>517697319>if a man rapes her he must marry herPretty clear m8
>>517697427I literally told you already that the bible its a literal important part of the traditions but you are getting all emotional. Almost sound like a muslim in the way you talk about the book.
>>517697481nope, the pope is not a replacement for christ on earth.
>>517697370All religion is for idiots, but catholocism is particularly vile for the history they have of basically genociding, enslaving, and oppressing everyone. It's one of the most evil religions to ever walk the earth.Fun fact, they banned married men from the priesthood, so the entire priesthood filled up with homosexual men. Somewhere between 50-80% of catholic priests are homosexual
>>517697590>marry your rapistrights of the woman aren't even a factor
>>517697644If you won't repent of your false witness, then you are not a Christian. Begone from me.
>>517697649Even this opinion is at least more grounded that all the things our german friend have said today.
>>517697607the bible is the literal Word of God and only authority. its not just some part of traditions.
>>517697777whatever papist.
>>517697833Ok yes this is a larp, troll (muslim, atheist or jew) or a bot, you won, actually made me believe I was talking to a real person and waste my time.
>>517697785man, satan has you riled up against me lol. obsessed.cant have bible believing christians, they must conform.
>>517698022just say you hate the Word of God from the start.
>>517698046You dont have a position other than "everything is satanic" without actually understanding theology or the bible itself, but hey if you conviction and faith is so strong you should feel safe with your choices.
>>517697649Genocided who?The Aztecs?Europe's populations soared when they became Christians, under the Roman pagans they were reduced to a fraction of what they were. The Gauls in France for example were decimated as a people by Caesar
>>517698092Yeah the word of god that God gave to someone in a cave, yes, the literal word of god, yeah
>>517698197Jesus told us to not be deceived over and over again. do you think he was joking?
>>517698259do you compare the literal word of God as it is written in the CHRISTIAN bible to the quran?what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>517697255You are sadly - for yourself - wrong. God bless
>>517698305You tell me. I guess 2000+ years of theology and actual bible understanding by several saints and even believers and secular scholars are wrong against your 6 years of sunday bible studies. Again, been there with people like you, you are not really special in that regard. Just hope you open your eyes and come home. >>517698443Also you said literal. Dont put words in my mouth. See ya
>>517697649Who were the Catholics busy genociding and enslaving?
>>517698569so you trust in men instead of God. got it.Jeremiah 175 Thus says the Lord:“Cursed is the man who trusts in man and makes flesh his strength,[a] whose heart turns away from the Lord.6 He is like a shrub in the desert, and shall not see any good come.He shall dwell in the parched places of the wilderness, in an uninhabited salt land.
>>517679918>Is Christianity a viable alternative to Atheism?If Christ is God, it's the only thing that is viable.This is a interesting series:https://youtu.be/EUrUTWYMz1cIt's good to read the gospels and pray. God bless anon.
>>517698716Same kind of wording I already heard. I Guess God didnt became fully human fully God, because trusting men would be crazy right? Man, sola scriptura refutes itself, its really cute
>>517698856Matthew 315 But Jesus answered him, “Let it be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he consented. 16 And when Jesus was baptized, immediately he went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him,[a] and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming to rest on him; 17 and behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son,[b] with whom I am well pleased.”do you have the Holy Spirit like Jesus promised us to guide us?
>>517697649>Fun fact, they banned married men from the priesthood, so the entire priesthood filled up with homosexual men. Gospel says Jesus was man and the 12 apostles where men. That's what they are going with. But yeah, when you see the liberal mainstream churches all with women priests all over the place today, that's going to give the 30-year (one generation) sample size to analyze to see how that goes>Somewhere between 50-80% of catholic priests are homosexualDiocesan is regular army, those guys are like 80% - 90% chad fucking chicks left and right if they want (girls throw themselves at you when you wear the white collar and all black). I know of a priest younger than me went to WAY TOO FAR with it and filmed a porno fucking on the altar of his church with two sexy hot bitches. That had to be so hot, but a passerby saw it and reported him and he was kicked out of the priesthood immediately. Bishop showed up all furious and had a whole new altar installed and re-consecrated and went on this whole rant about how sorry he was for this under his watch and denouncing the shit out of that guy. But if you just get a hotel room, or do it when on vacation out of town, not in your priest clothes, then most of your parishioners don't care. Keep it well behind closed doors like every normal person doesAs for the gays, regular army is your front line parish priests so they keep most of the gays out of that but they can join the a religious order, and there are 100s of those. I know one that had class of new novices that was 50%gay and you could tell hanging out with them just by observing body language. So yeah, would suck to be in that class if you're straightBut your vocation director is going to be upfront about you on that. If you're a situation where you might be joining a gay class or order with a decent bit of gays they are going to make sure you are ok with that first
>>517698988Sorry mate gonna go do literally anything else. I beg you ask God for guidence, truly humble yourself when doing it, he will answer with the same things I have answer you and then I hope you start actually reading into the teachings of the one true church wich our Lord funded. May Christ save you and I both sinners, my friend. Have a great night or afternoon.
>>517697649There's no hatred like the Jews have for Jesus, the devil has for Mary or retards have for the Catholic Church
>>517699463yes, run away when an actual bible believing christian quotes the bible.thats all tradition and theological educated can do. just like your catholic friend.you cant argue with the Word of God.
>>517679918a curiosity about 'Spreading the gospel': the word propaganda derives from 'propagare', from the mission to spread the gospel.About your question, I'm honestly unsure whether you're an idiot or a terrible comedian.
>>517699561This is the summary of this whole thread. Truly sad times.
>>517699424forgot to add, as a practical matter, not allowing them to get married or have children lives them free to be on call 24/7 when one of their 15,000 parishioners needs them, especially those about to die. Constant funerals, weddings, daily mass, mass all weekend long, weekly adoration, annually preparing kids for baptism and confirmation, adults for conversion, couples for marriage, etc then you have all these things going on at your parish you need to show up at especially the school, the parish council and the parish financial council But there is a lot more stuff you don't have to be at but it looks a lot better when you are Mens Club Grandmothers Club, Legion of Mary, Come Lord Jesus, Bible Study, just pull our your parish bulletin or look at its website. Also not allowing priests to have kids or get married means the parish doesnt have to pay to support all that, they already support the priest and provide him with a home So yeah, women or men priests, they will always be celibate
>>517679918There is no way pol was always this retarded… it has to be a zoomer thing.Why don’t you faggots join the military and die for israel, to own the jews, too. Holy fuck lololol
>>517699612Good luck my friend. Here, just a gift from a brother in christJames 2:14-26 Matthew 7:21-24Exodus 25:18-22Matthew 27:47;49Ezekiel 44:1-22 Thessaloniki 2:15 1 Timothy 3:15Acts 14:23John 6:51-56Malachi 1:10-11Wont do your homework, go actually read and understand the bible. Kudos.
>>517699561Correct
>>517687065>one that believes that going beyond Scripture is an errorWhere does it say in scripture not to do that?Where does it say in scripture what the scriptures are?
>>517679918Hey, Moron, get a Bible!
>>517700444JamesFaith by Grace comes first, then Works. you are saved by faith, then God will put works into your hearth.Matthew>‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’how do you know that Jesus knows you if you never had contact with him in your life. the first expierience I had with the Lord was him literally telling me "I want to know you".Exodusthose who love God follow his commandments. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.ThessaloniansI wish the churches would hold true to the teachings of the apostles...TimothyGod doesnt dwell in places build by human hands but in the midst of man.Actswish they would still do this today.Johnread further. the chapter doesnt end there.good readhere are someActs 2:37-39Repent and receive the Holy Spirit1 Peter 3:20-22apply for a new conscience
>>517693261This fucking guy never posts scripture
>>517691286>a foreign desert religion>that arose in urban centres in the Roman Empire>with scriptures written in Greek
>>517701831Lmao ok so no matter what you just want to argue. May Christ save your sould brother.
>>517702374what? I agreed with all the scriptures you posted.then I suggested 2 more for your own benefit to read for you.I didnt argue with anything.
>>517680125Idk much about arabic translations but I will tell you to make sure the old testament is translated from the Septuagint and not the Masoretic text.The Masoretic text has been doctored to change the timeline by about 1300 years as well as several verses in the OT in an attempt to discredit Jesus and also Justify modern day Israel. The dead sea scrolls were found at the same time Israel became a nation.
>>517679918list of christian content creators who are racist and anti-semitic>Cory J. Muller, Woe / stone choir- https://stone-choir.com/episode-list/>Andrew Anglin / daily stormer - https://dailystormer.in/>Pete Quinones- https://www.youtube.com/@TPQS/videos>Gypsy Crusader- https://goyimtv.com/channel/3843008839/Gypsycrusader/videos>Gott Mit Uns / Reuvin Matveev- https://www.youtube.com/@gottmituns650/videos>Leonarda Jonie- https://www.youtube.com/@LeonardaisFunny/videos>iHypocrite- https://rumble.com/c/lporiginalg?e9s=src_v1_clr>Mark Collett / patriotic alternative- https://odysee.com/@MarkCollett:6?view=content>Jay Dyer- https://www.youtube.com/@JayDyer/streams>Nicholas J. Fuentes / america first- https://rumble.com/c/nickjfuentes/livestreams>Dave, Cameron, Rebecca / the backlash- https://www.youtube.com/@realbacklash>Vincent James- https://rumble.com/c/RealVincentJames/videosthe racist and anti-semitic confederates have always been christian. the national socialists used the celtic cross and gave out iron cross medals for bravery.do not fall for glownigger divide and conquer tactics.
>>517679918Start with alcohol and hypocrisy.
>>517697010The existence of Moses as an actual figure, rather than merely mythical one is highly contested, Amerinon.ref: Sargon of Akkad records.
>>517679918yeah it looks ok, but prester john not ok
>>517679918prester john a homosexual ethiopian, like agamemnon; the pharoah that enslaves, the Moors and the Saracens.
>>517679918Don’t forget the Bible is Jewish fairytales for the gentiles.Christianity is literally a spearhead tip of Jewish subversion.Christianity is how the jews keep their gentile slaves on the plantation.Jews were completely irrelevant and wouldn't even exist today without them creating Christianity. They are self fulfilling their prophecies with the help of Christianity.No greater psyop in human history.https://nitter.poast.org/Ehrenkrieg2
>>517679918Ephesians 2:8-9 is the verse you want to memorize most of all
>>517707412hitler was literally a vatican stooge
Rabbi Yeshua became a false idol for the goyim after doing some magic street performances.Christianity destroyed Rome.Christianity destroyed the British empireChristianity enabled the Rothschilds and other Jewish families by exempting them from usury banChristianity is why modern day Israel existsAccording to Christian prophecy, you'll win by doing nothing. Poof! Like a thief in the night you'll be raptured.That prophecy was written by a Jew. The Jews intend to build a third temple, unify the three Abrahamic religions, and control all transactions in a Zion-led global new world order. Revelation neutered the Christians.A Goyim Scam designed by Hebrew Rabbis, using Saul of Tarsus' letters as the core teaching.
>>517679918Independent Fundamental Baptist
>>517702545So, what exactly is it about Catholicism that you don't agree with, anon?To my own understanding of the bible which is, I must admit, limited, most religions that came from Christ are still following him to the best of their ability.Orthodoxy, Catholicism, most Protestants and Christians who are not part of any religion that still found god, fit in that category.
>>517679918>I want to learn about Christianityok
>>517709663Dont bother friend, i literally lost like an hour talking with this guy, but the reality is that those who keep the tradition of christianity alive the way Jesus inteded are the catholics, the differences between can be summed in those who believe in the pope and those who dont, there is obviously a lot more that I invite you to read if you find it interesting, just dont fall for the traps of dispensationalism and american evangelicals like our german friend here. You can even find actual protestant churches in Europe that still follow the traditions, just dont like the pope.
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>>517679918>>517690278>>517697238>>517697370>>517697649Literally every single denomination of Christianity in current year has been corrupted and compromised because we are literally living in the last days you dimwits. Inspect every version of Christianity now and you find that no matter how true they seem there is always something that marrs them and throws you off. This is intentional, because they are all infected by the antichrist. There is no 'true Christian' sect left because we are in the final hours of the system. No matter how much they might grasp at the initial early teachings of Jesus they all fall short and divert in some way that goes against scriptureQrd on what I mean:>Catholicism - politically involved in satan's world, popes claim to be God's representative, followers worship Mary, purgatory, hell being a specific place with lore, ritualistic things like rosaries have power and meaning, the eucharist isn't just symbolic but literally Jesus' body/blood itself>Protestantism - same issues with hell, dispensationalism, all the spin-off sects, prophecies after Jesus, politically entrenched, zionism, capitalistic industry, gay acceptance, woman priests etc>Orthodox - literally worship images, ritualistic prayer and superstitious thinking such as that sign of cross has magic protective powers, venerating demons by thinking they are more powerful than they are, praying for the dead, literally worship saints and think saints can intercede and be prayed to (peak idolatry), opulence and material/architecural wordly obsessions with ornate dress and buildings etc>Mormons - goes without saying>Jehovah's Witnesses - think a 'governing body' of random guys in new york are substitute authority for Jesus, don't partake in eucharist/think only a few are elect and can partake, random anti blood transfusion doctrine and changing doctrines due to 'new light,' rejection of Jesus' divinitythere is no 'true Christianity' left
>>517690364the modern technological advancements are the 'signs and wonders' that satan/the beast will use to trick people you absolute fool. This is so obvious. There is no actual innate connection between technological advancement and secularism as pop culture would have you believe, in fact, despite the pop cultural view of history you are presented with, if you actually think about current times and look at history it's actually where there is a progressive downward moral decay away as it goes on despite the technological advancement and when you think about what liberalism and 'moral progress' actually is with early Christian/Jesus' lifestyle techings in mind you realize that it's a constant movement away from Christianity and that this is literally the whole actual point. Even something as seemingly innoucous and random as the fact that the 'LGBT' flag becomes a lot creepier when you realise the rainbow was a symbol of God's covenant with Noah first and that this meaning has been replaced.
>>517679918>it looks cooldefinitely don't sell your soul for the looks.
>>517710315I dont have the energy for another troll, You win mate, real christianity is not real, its Jewish, god is a woman, science its the only truth and UK is not a Muslim country. Have a good night
>>517710315>there is no 'true Christianity'yes, we are called anabaptists. Learn the truth and the truth sets us free.
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>>517710650If you still have doubts, maybe you can ask prophet Jesus(peace be upon him) some day. Don't wait tho
>>517710007>>517710147>>517710211>But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!Anything that retcons or changes who Jesus is and his story in the gospels and adds things after Jesus is false and is supposed to be rejected. There is literally no way to reconcile this and the fact that islam uses Christianity as part of its basis while this is clearly stated by Jesus and in the epistles should make you instantly realise that islam is obviously false since this is so clearly self-contradictory. There is no way to make this make sense. You serve a false prophet and are of the antichrist.
>>517710540I'm not a troll and you don't understand what I am saying or advocating for. I am not saying that Christianity is false, I am saying that we are in the prophecied last days of satan's world and that the fact that all of Christianity has been corrupted and fallen away is evidence of this. There is nowhere to turn that isn't in service to the antichrist because we are literally living in the great tribulation already, right now. The only thing you can do is cling to faith in Jesus himself and the written word rather the fallen institutions of man and the devil. Time is short.
>>517685327No, from personal experience, you should do the opposite, start with Matthew, old testament is full of absurd sandnigger fairytails. And the the Genesis is the worst of them all. Feels like the authors didn't even knew about things like indirect speech or brief retelling and simply repeat previous paragraphs ad nauseam.Start with the NT, scripture of the new and universal alliance, not some half measures of derived from twisting local savage sandmonkey infighting folclore
>>517711259Ok so dispensationalism. Literally the same point as our german friend. I guess you'll pray for me when the rapture comes and I stay here. Right?
>>517711259>the fallen institutions of manJesusls promised that the Church won't fall:>And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
>>517709663my problem with catholics is that they put a man as their superior instead of God.the roman church has altered many things that are contrary to the gospel, mainly the veneration of Mary, idol worship, the Sabbath and salvation itself.I dont say that there are no true chirstians in the catholic, orthodox or any other form a church, but that the traditions of man dont stand above the scripture.a true christian adheres to the bible, and deviating from that a church needs to be held accountable. the roman chuch has strayed the farthest away from the scripture out of all denominations.
>>517710933>this is so clearly self-contradictoryGod isn't three and one at the same time retardGod isn't ever living and die at a cross at the same timeAnd every 'prophet' who came after Jesus(pbuh) and Muhammad(pbuh) are the liars. You're not advocating for prophet Jesus. You shill for the forgerer
>>517710315good post
>>517711259>Christianity has been corrupted >>517711699>my problem with catholics is that they put a man as their superior instead of God.exactly. You've already accepted the Islamic view on Jesus without even reading the Quran. Read Surah Al E Imran and Surah Maidah. You get confirmed
>>517679918Jewish fairy tales should be discarded.
>>517711433I think you need to look up what dispensationalism is.
>>517712021Funny how it works innit? Is either they (>>517711922 >>517711259)get closer to islam or closer to talmud judaism. You are probably gonna meet these guys soon when as converts to islam. Godspeed my muzzie friend.
>>517712356Dont worry friend the rapture is totally happening this time. Hope you pray for me during the tribulation
>>5177125080/10try again
>>517712569No need, its always funny to talk with evangelicals sola scriptura, everyone is wrong except the literal word of Alla..sorry God Christ and the horrible catholic traditional church is literally the synagogue of satan, forgot about the jews? No, they are our cousins, just need to acept Jesus but mantain their jewish traditions. Anyway, its been fun, im truly ashamed of wasting so much time in this conversation, first time. But I will in fact pray for you, may Christ guide you and release you from your blindness. And I already know how you will respond. Just hope you actially read again the verses I sent you and try to understand them without the adultered opinion you have.
>>517711433the rapture is unscriptural and heretical. Nothing in the scriptures suggests that Christians in the last days will be whisked away into the sky right before the great tribulation happens, in fact Revelation makes it clear that the last remaining Christians will suffer through the great tribulation. The time referred to in Thessalonians where the firstfruits/apostles are 'taken up into the air to be with Christ' is not a distinct event from the resurrection on the day of the Son of Man.>>517711520the reason why you know it's the last days is literally because of this point. If you think about it another way, it's actually that the Son of Man comes right when his church (referring to those who are figuratively remaining in Christ rather than a specific institution of the world) is about to be annihilated - it's BECAUSE Jesus said his church cannot fall that makes it where this IS the crtierion for when the event happens so that Jesus words aren't a lie. Right when the church is about to fall, when the world has gone beyond the threshold and is fully in thrall to the antichrist, is when Jesus returns.
>>517683230Ultimately being a Christian is in its simplest this. The question being: do you believe in the Resurrection? If yes, you're Christian, if no, then you're not.
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>>517712021>>517712454the islamic view of Jesus is that he himself didn't get crucified and resurrected which is instantly how you know islam is false and of the devil and can be safely dismissed just like everything that tries to add anything after Jesus. There is no scriptural basis for another prophet after Jesus and the original greek text of the gospels makes it very clear that Jesus is the Word and is Lord and that only he is the way, the truth and the life and that salvation is only through Jesus alone. ANything contrary to this is of the devil and is the antichrist, there is nothing else to say other than this and no way to reconcile it. You are simply deceived or doing the devil's work on purpose.
>>517713002figured you were a papist. same as the frogposter.you follow Rome rather than Jesus Christ. repent.
>>517711699>they put a man as their superior instead of GodThe Pope doesn't replace God. >the veneration of MaryHas scriptural support. And it makes emotional and spiritual sense - do you think Christ will object to you venerating his mum?>idol worshipNot Catholic>the SabbathThis is pedantry. The Lord set aside one day a week. There's no mention of Saturdays and Sundays in the bible.>salvation itselfThe Catholic doctrine of salvation is perfectly biblical and more nuanced than protestant versions.>a true christian adheres to the bibleA true Christian adheres as much as possible to the teaching and example of God. The idea that the Church He founded and vouchsafed is unChristian strikes me as unChristian.>the roman chuch has strayed the farthest away from the scripture out of all deniminationsHow many Protestant churches have women priests? Tolerate abortion and homosexuality? I could go onThe state of Protestantism after only a few centuries should serve as a warning. Sterile or degenerate congregations, ever fragmented denominationsAfaict most objections to Catholicism stem from people arguing against what they think Catholicism is, others from various forms of covert idolatry (sola scriptura is an example of that), and the rest are basically aesthetic, temperamental or political aversions born from pride
>>517713029>Right when the church is about to fallDetermining if that is taking place now is above my pay grade and above yours too.
>>517713287Its amazing how the conclusion of this conversation is that somehow im a papist and satanist or a larper frog poster even tho its my first time posting. Guess its true what they say about this website kek You won fren, literally made me waste my night. Thats some really good troll moves.
>>517713475Man, if you read a little bit of this thread you will find out that this German friend its either a troll or a larper or worse, just a blind protestant, he got me good tho, he actually baited me, he won lmao
>>517711699>they put a man as their superior instead of God.Which man, anon?The Sabbath is often interpreted by us as Following:"Catholics do not worship on the Sabbath, which according to Jewish law is the last day of the week (Saturday), when God rested from all the work he had done in creation (Gen. 2:2-3). Catholics worship on the Lord’s Day, the first day of the week (Sunday, the eighth day); the day when God said “Let there be light” (Gen. 1:3)"Us Catholics do ask for the intercession of Mary and other saints, but we do not tend to idolize them, save for some people who are misled.Scriptures' interpretation is quite difficult. If you were to read the bible all alone without ANY help or discussion, you would often find yourself with more questions than answers. That's why people often go to churches, for guidance, not to find god. Whether that guidance adheres to what God intends or not, I do not fully know, but I want to believe they are trying to do good, what's important. Finally, only in the second coming of Christ we will know our answers.Forgive us Father, for we do not know what we are doing.
>>517713029I was clearly been ironic here
>>517713475>The Pope doesn't replace God.they dont, but they think they take the office of God on earth.>do you think Christ will object to you venerating his mum?ask him. you have the Holy Spirit, right?>Not Catholiccool, I will wait until they take down statues of Mary and saints in the meanwhile.>The Lord set aside one day a weekyou know when you have the Holy Spirit which day it is.>The Catholic doctrine of salvation is perfectly biblical and more nuanced than protestant versions.saved through faith by grace and not of works so no one can boast.>adheres as much as possible to the teaching and example of GodGod puts his commandments on your heart, you dont have to try to follow them you just do.>The idea that the Church He foundedstill waiting for a human created church to follow his Word.>How many Protestant churchesIm a bible believing Christian. I am more of a protestant hater than you.
>>517679918well we got you thenask away
>>517713616>even tho its my first time postingso what? did the frog man literally have to ask someone to back him up after the last time he was obliterated?lmao
>>517693305>automatically dismissing evidence based on who provided itnpc things
>>517713948Like I said before, no matter the evidence you'll just refute it with flawed understanding of everything, man, you are worse than an humanist or a atheist
>>517713723> a blind protestantIt seems to be that. Why there is that section of protestants and atheists who seethe so much about the Catholic Church is always a mystery.>he won lmaoAmen. Lol.
>>517714032What are you even talking about lmao I came here to discuss theology, even tho it's the last thing you have actually talk about. Good night man lmao what a waste of time, its my fault anyway
>>517713948>Im a bible believing Christian. I am more of a protestant hater than youWhat denomination are you?
>>517714103jews also won't eat pork, just like muslims, so what's your point?
>>517679918The historical Jesus was an interesting topic for me to start with.
>>517713768>Which man, anon?the pope. vicar of Christ translates to substitute for Christ. Christ is in heaven reigning and having all authority over heaven and earth.we dont need a man to larp as christ on earth.>Catholics do not worship on the Sabbaththose that love God follow his commandments. one of them is to REMEMBER the sabbath and keep it holy. REMEMBER.>but we do not tend to idolize themcool, Im just waiting for Mary statues and pictures to be removed at this point. until then this point is moot.>Scriptures' interpretation is quite difficult.thats why you need the Holy Spirit. he is the author, only the author can explain scripture.man alone will never understand the bible.>Finally, only in the second coming of Christ we will know our answers.>Forgive us Father, for we do not know what we are doing.I stand with you on these points. I dont hate catholics, in fact I love them. otherwise I would not spent time debating them.
>>517714220so you just casually opened 4chan to enter a thread about religion when the frogposter got btfo again.got it ;^)
>>517683230real according to who?>a bunch of anonymous jews nobody ever metlelif youre not more capable than jews were 2000 ago to ask and answer questions about divinity, you may as well just go to your nearest synagogue/'church' and hand over your foreskin (if you havent already), because its already too late for you, and youre irredeemable in the eyes of the godsif youre intellectually/spiritually incapable, like you have some sort of a physical handicap that prevents you from engaging in introspection for more than 7 seconds at a time without söyjak dooming about fjords ir feels, you can always blood eagle the person you find operating that synagogue/'church' above the altar and maybe, just maybe, they will take pity upon you and you'll get lucky and not have to reroll as a fly on the eyeball african
>>517714469Same on the last points, you DO have a little bit of arrogance but that it's common between protestants but I can concede that you seem truly interested in this topics, I also have little patience sometimes, specially with this topic that's close to my heart, but you can't lie to me when all your understanding it's literally based on progressive dispensationalism and even borderline messianic Jewish ideas. Please I beg you open your mind and your heart to the truth.
>>517714341Jesus Christ saved me by giving me the Holy Spirit when I repented as a sinner. after that he introduced me to the scripture.what would you call me?what denomination am I in?I dont know. I only know God saved me and I didnt deserve it. I love Jesus because of that and will defend the scipture.
>>517714656I lurk a lot of /g/ and lately /pol/ since the news of Charlie kirk murder, sorry for entering the only post that wasn't about "kill niggers" or jews killing Palestinians Christians and civilians
>>517714816bro, I hate "jews" but though they are not more than you, believe me.I have a reason to, you dont.
>>517714922Imagine "hating" jews, I just refuse to accept the terrible understanding that without jews (modern talmudist jews) Christianity wouldn't exist, so maybe we do have that in common, but you are becoming a little bit smugish right now
>>517680125Then you have the stories of Jesus' childhood in the Koran. Read those, then read the four Gospels of the New Testament.The Old Testament are the books and stories of the tribes of Judah and the Hebrews. Those people are all long gone, killed in wars, genocided, survivors spread out or converted.Learn about Jesus first. If Jesus and his teachings aren't the foundation, you're following something else.>Love God, above all.>Love your neighbor as yourself.Everything after the Gospels, is secondary. The writings of the Apostles, and Saul/Paul might be inspired, but those guys weren't Christ. Be careful reading Paul.
>>517714408>jews also won't eat pork, just like muslims, so what's your point?oh yes they will. maybe if you quit tucking your dick between your legs and waddling around like some sort of gay goose babbling about worshipping jews you would see that you can make them do anything, just like they make you do. you just have to be less a little bitch than they are.
>>517715027talmudist jews were always satanists and that what Jesus told them to their face.Christianity was always at odds with.to bad the vatican is just talmudism 2.0.
>>517715248Again, im not a papist lmao but I guess our dislike for talmudist jews and muslims is stronger since we both, at least at a fundamental level, care about our lord Jesus Christ, can we agree on that?
>>517715373yes we can, I rather leave this conversation knowing we both have disagreements but make Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.
>>517680125Watch bishop mar Mari at Christ the good shepherd church in Sydney. He is Assyrian orthodox and gives talks in Arabic on YouTube. His best ones are in English though. The chuds telling you to just read the Bible are protestants who don’t understand that the Bible is a four dimensional object. You will get confused and discouraged and need a teacher
>>517715497Amen brother, I do hope you consider some of the things we talked about earlier when we were a little more chilled, obviously things got heated. And I will do my best to listen and understand the points of protestants even tho I already have a bias, maybe that way we can find common ground, like hating talmudist jews for example
>>517715248>b-b-but jews wrote jewsus hated jewsand the fell for it again award goes to...Anon, for having believed jewsthis is his 5,705th award
>>517715658To be fair Jesus did in fact said to jews ot his time (actual jews) they were been hypocritical and were far away from God even when he was there, talking here from the perspective of the gospels. Talmudist jews (who are the ones we all hate) are not the same jesus spoke to
>>517715649>like hating talmudist jews for examplealways down for that. glad we found common ground even tho we disagree.I was never brought up in a religious setting so I dont know what its like with that background.here is the post of my testimony how I was saved >>517714821so maybe you understand my position more.
>>517713475>The Pope doesn't replace Godit's not just about replacing God but that it is clearly stated that no-one is a substitute authority for Jesus>do you think Christ will object to you venerating his mum?yes, he literally calls her 'woman' multiple times rather than even mother and ONLY Christ has been given the authority to be venerated>idol worship>Not Catholicyou literally have stone images of Jesus on a cross that you pray to>you will know them by their fruitsthe fact that catholics have ornate cathedrals, authority figures in gold robes and stupid hats with gold staffs, have a political state and are involved with governments instantly invalidates them>>517713723Germanbro is the only sane poster here although I think he is wrong about the identity of the whore of Babylon - it's not necessarily the Catholic church specifically but more likely Israel and all false religion that they have a hand in. I base this on the fact that the Kingdom of Israel is described as an unfaithful whore who is whoring after false gods and other nations in Jeremiah as well as how closely it fits the criteria such as the blood of the innocents, being the mother of whores and abominations and fornicating with all the kings of the world and riding the scarlet beast (which likely represents world governments under satan's influence). The fact that it is called Babylon the Great is in reference to the fact that it represents false religion and all corrupted Christianity that is connected to Israel in some way due to the fact that the empire of Babylon was a highly multi-religious empire filled with superstition and spiritistic practices as well as the Babylonian Talmud being literally named after Babylon and the rabbinical/magic tradition of judaism first forming within the Babylonian exile.Catholicism, much like Protestantism, is fully enmeshed and enthralled with this beast and the whore of Babylon.tldr """Judeo-Christianity""" is the name of the antichrist religion
>>517715649>HALLEJEWYAH BROTHER>WE WORSHIPPIN RABBIS N SHEEEIT>WE BE BE PRESERVIN AND STUDYING A COMMON JEWISH PSEUDOHISTORICAL FICTITIOUS CULTURE INSTEAD OF OUR OWN>JEWS WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM OUR UNITING TOGETHER TO WORSHIP A JEWISH GOD JEWS GAVE US AND OBSERVING THE NOAHIDE LAWS JUST LIKE THEY WANTEDget a load of this transjewish fag
>>517715844>NOOOOO YOURE NOT OBSERVING THE TORAH HARD ENOUGH YOURE NOT SUPPOSED TO LEND TO JEWS ONLY TO GOYIMlook at this faggotprobably hates his whole family and his race too just like jews told him towhen your mom dies are you gonna bury her or just let her bloated corpse ripen to generate disease? maybe catapult her body over your neighbors yard?fucking disgraceful you jew worshippers. you deserve nothing less than jews. TAD.
>>517715866I do understand that position, that's literally me some years ago, my wife also said the same idea of "what denomination" and what not. I really understand that part, I just found myself getting depressed with the state of modern churchs and after a lot of praying and thinking I just found orthodoxy to feel like home, I wasn't raised religiously either, and it's not me saying that the pipeline of redpilling or some stuff like that will get you to tradition but I do believe that if you open a little bit, maybe go to a liturgy, perhaps you'll find something interesting there. Again, not a papits
>>517715886Read >>517716236Do agree with you more than you think tho and even germanbro
>>517715886thanks my man.my reasoning is that after the crucifixion spiritual Israel is called the Church now, the bride of Christ.so all OT sciptures of Israel apply to the Church as well, especially Isiah, Jeremiah and Ezekiel in regards to idol worship.none of that is to be found in the true Church and Bride of Christ since she is a virgin in white garments which all human made churches fall short of.my belief is that the real Church of Christ cant be seen by human eyes.
christcucks are indoctrinated from birth to worship and idolize jewish pedophiles in place of their godsthere is noone more cucked than christcucks.
can you even imagine having less spiritual aptitude than jews? being SPIRITUALLY DEPENDENT on jews? its a fate worse than death
i would not worship christcuckery on my worst enemy. not even a jew. theres something truly unnatural about it all. atleast the jew follows its nature. but the christcuck.. theyre like a domesticated animal, for the dumbest of animals. can you even imagine a scenario where having a rabbi mutilate your genitals and sterilizing the wound with his mouth somehow not being the most humiliating religious outcome for you ? that is christcuckery. somehow, its beyond that. its engrained in their very soul. a spiritual suicide as opposed to material genital suicide.
