THE LATEST VOTE GOT 3 DEMS TO COME TO THE GOP SIDE (Fetterman, King, Cortez-Masto) BUT THEY NEED 4 MOREvote is still open so dems have a chance to switch their vote, but it looks like the dems are legitimately going to shutdown the government because they can't get illegals healthcare. It's a horrible look for the dems when they're already unfavorable. https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1973160912526909681
>>517702809FIRE THEM ALL (nothing will happen)
>>517702809good. anything to make the dems dig their hole deeper is a good thingalso california is mailing out ballots for special election in november for prop 50 which is gavin's big redistricting legislation to counter trump and texaswould be hilarious if those arrives while we're in the midst of a democrat-caused shutdown
>>517702809They've passed shit at the last minute countless times. Five hours is a plenty of time to gain five votes. Nothing ever happens.
>>517703158the fact dems are flipping already is pretty stunning actually. it's politically horrible for the dems to do this for illegals ffs. They need 4 votes fwiw, it's currently at 56-44.
>>517702809They should fire 100 random leftist employees per minute until the vote is passed.
>>517703265if any more flip Schumer would probably immediately resign from the leadership. He is out any way.
>>517702809I dont care if the government shuts down
>>517703450Schumer is 74, by 2028 I think he'll be so unpopular if he even tries to run he's getting BTFO by AOC who will primary him. I don't think he's running in 2028 honestly, and if the dems don't take the senate he should resign as leader.
>>517702809Democrats shutting down the government, which they like, to stop the government, which they don't like anymore, from hurting the government, which they like again, but they know the government, which they don't like, will end up gutting the government, which they again like, if they shut down the government, which they simultaneously do and don't like.
>>517703551intradesting...
>>517702809>democrats cry when trump fires incompetent government workers>democrats fire more government workers than trump ever could have
People will realize that its the Orange pedophiles fault anyway
>>517702809Who gives a shit?Nothing ever happens
>>517702809why now though? are they trying to distact from something? maybe the greta shitshow that's about to flare up? the incoming strikes on iran?
>>517703763Bold of you to assume that level of forethought. It's just the end of the fiscal year.
>>517703128>The minority party that doesn't control any chamber will be blamedThat's some might fine cope, anon
what the fuck is a shutdownwhy has it never done anythingand why do we threaten to have one yearly?
>>517703435Do all of them the first minute, then for each additional minute after, fine them $100,000.00, and imprison them and their entire families.
>>517703632Liberals are making more people right wing than the right could ever dream of doing on their own. >>517703658This is a liberal poll btw>>517703763there are healthcare provisions in obamacare that allow a loophole for illegals to get it and they're desperate to keep them.
>>517702809>get illegals healthcareHow does ACA subsidies have to do with illegals' healthcare?
>>517702809Every time there is a government shutdown. My life improves almost imperceptibly
>>517702809I am so sick of Red Team / Blue Team and all the worthless retards continuing to enable such a blatant trick. Goytards gonna goytard.
Sorry commies. Gov is closed. Go ahead and make memes about how this is drumpfs fault all you like. You probably were receiving feddy bucks anyways and now you don't.You got all the time in the world to be angry.
>>517702809>for once the dems want to actually do something useful and demand the reverse of the Medicaid cutsyou should be happy, you stupid mutt. WHy do you want to get raped?
>>517702809>Dems shutting it downSo why did Mike Johnson shut down the house on a scheduled voting day?
>>517703875Political bullshit. This is what they actually sell themselves for. Big money fighting with big money. American politics is a business, not representation. At least in this case. There's a lot of representatives and lots of money is in play here. And theatrics. That's the gay political side. I swear people that do politics are all theater kids that got law degrees.
>>517703925This, but make them eat journalists until it passes.
>>517703957they're tying it to the healthcare laws put into the big beautiful bill. >But Democrats are holding out for a deal that would restore $1 trillion in Medicaid cuts passed into law this summer on top of a permanent extension of the Obamacare subsidies set to expire at the end of the year, saving health insurance for 3.8 million people at a cost of $350 billion over the next decade, according to the Congressional Budget Office.https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/congressional-leaders-continue-blame-game-clock-ticks-shutdown/story?id=126083610>>517704094>>517704044>foreigner>memeflag
>>517702809dumb nigger, its all a show for you nigger fags.. you think they are just going to let shit go unfunded..we go through this twice a year, fucking niggers
>>517703763Trump is acting like he has a super-majority when he doesn't. Maybe the Democrats really are as weak as he thinks and it is good to call their bluff since they'll cave and get nothing.But if they don't cave then ultimately it is on him for telling them to fuck off and offering them nothing when his simple majority requires that he negotiate with them and offer them something to get what he wants too.
>>517703975>Furloughed again award
>>517704205>and offering them nothingit's a re-up of current spending ffs
>>517702809What if they make a deal, release the unredacted epstein files in exchange for no shutdown.
>>517702809Just only end food stamps payments to the blue districts, they won't have districts to go back to in 1 week.
>>517704255Better than working for free
>>517704006Liberals still think their political grandstanding and ridiculous performative virtue signalling matters. They're so unpopular and yet they don't know what to do so they double down as they sleep walk into irrelevancy. To have an approval this bad means their own party hates them too.
>>517704264It's your system, burger.
It's too bad the Democrats keep standing up for the MIGA retards to continue to receive healthcare. They should just let them die since they voted for it.
FUCK ITS OVERTHIS TIME FOR REAL
>>517702809Nothing ever happens when the government "shuts down".
>>517704161okay, and that has to do with illegals' healthcare, how? It's something like 99% of the medicaid goes to citizens, with <1% being for emergency funds for non-citizens to help hospitals.
>>517702809If fetterstein is voting for it, that means the jews are telling him to avoid shutdown.
>>517704415>illegals don't get healthcare>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SHUT IT THE FUCK DOWN>>517704477except this time Trump will fire the people DOGE wants to be fired that he can't do otherwise outside of a shutdown without a long process.
>>517704361It's a uniparty and they hate all of us. Stop playing along with a system they use to control and fuck us with. That's all Red Team / Blue Team is.
>>517703658wow so thats why we give you food stamps, so you can sit around and notice how everyone that doesnt give you food stamps is a pedo, wow
>>517704517>with <1% being for emergency funds for non-citizens if that's true then why are they seething so much?
>>517704006I would like to have a 3rd party that would like a King-Maker, but somehow I think even that would end up compromised by the same bullshit.
>>517704570ok but blue team wants mass illegal replacement migration, anti-white anarcho-tyranny, and depopulation of white men.
>>517703870Need 60 votes and the minority democrats are refusing to agree unless they gtet illegal alien healthcare andpbs funding
>>517702809Based I hope they do, it should be comfy as always.
Republicans have used the debt ceiling to hold the country for ransom so often for the last decade that they've forgotten every other playAnd the country has done nothing but reward them for itSo I say let the Democrats force a shutdown and let them drag it out as long as possible, what do they have to lose
>>517704530Illegals don't qualify for anything but ER hospital visits. The talking point that's vomited out is to mask Democrats objecting to Medicaid (which MIGA retards rely upon) being removed from 10 million American CITIZENS.
>>517704449
>>517704699and niggers wont get food stamps because of them because they care more about illegals instead of niggers having food
>>517704577I think they're seething because of how much damage it would do to americans. One side is framing it as illegals' healthcare, without an explanation as to why they keep claiming that. The obamacare subsidies is 0% illegals, medicaid with less than 1%(but I forgot that includes legal residents too).
This time last year, Vance was praising these exact tactics. Now he's crying about it.
>>517704658And the Red Team doesn't? LOL. I see you've completely missed the point and are dedicated to Jewish bullshit. You people will never learn.
>>517702809If trump is so based and has all the branches of government why do we still have obamacare?
>>517703658>People will realize that its the Orange pedophiles fault anyway
>>517702809>shutdown
>>517704699I've seen this dozens of times from right wingers and have not seen a shred of evidenceCan someone show me proof of Democrats holding out for healthcare for illegals?Just a heads up: A Republican saying that's what they're doing is not proof
>>517702809Why can't Congress do its job
>>517704361what's the alternative to liberalism? Being a far left dipshit? Being a maga cult dipshit pedophile supporter? Kill yourself, extremist
>>517704361>To have an approval this bad means their own party hates them too.He says conveniently ignoring the Republican approval is only 8% higher, and with less undecideds too
>>517704861except this time the food stamps stop for the niggers, all because democrats wanted to make the spics the priority of the democratic party
>>517704449I remember that one. They kicked me out of the park I was at so I went to Canada to see their parks.
>>517704699imagine literally just repeating what the GOP shits down your throat. The absolute state of modern 4chan
>>517702809>but it looks like the dems are legitimately going to shutdown the government because they can't get illegals healthcare.Cool, this can be used as an excuse to force resign or fire the remaining liberals in government.
>>517704726>>517704765>>517704819>>517704833>i-illegals don't get healthcare >NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR THEM TO GET HEALTHCAREyou genuinely didn't learn anything from 2024>>517704917>foreigner >>517704914liberals refuse to compromise on anything
>>517704819Thanks for your middle school "both sides bad" take, but looking at any place governed by red team vs blue team makes it pretty fucking clear which one you should support, and anyone who is interested in the real problems and dealing with Jews is on the red team, so you have to be involved with them to make any connections. But hey just keep watching a niche streamer that rants about how everything is awful, i'm sure that'll make a difference.>but what about the palestinian protesters!the dems just kneejerk to supporting the side with more melanin, the palestinian shit will never go anywhere.
>>517702809oh no a few feds will get furloughed for a couple days while everybody gets their mid term sound bites in where they get to place blame then they pass a bill to give israel a few more billion and raise the debt ceiling and everybody forgets. what ever will we do
>>517702809Gotta stand up for something fuck the Trump Administration. Restore ACA funding and maybe we'll talk. Good for the Democrats.
>>517704935>8% higher,That's like 12 million voters ffs
>>517703551Kek yea basically, it makes no sense but that’s what’s happening
>>517704902>Can someone show me proof of Democrats holding out for healthcare for illegals?demonrats only EXIST to give money and benefits to illegals and other trash
>>517705030the only people who larp like they give a shit about le red vs blue talking point are butthurt liberals
>>517705030>More normie goytard screeching I'm not going to read
>>517705030How are you “dealing with Jews” by supporting an outspokenly Zionist political organization
>>517704361>Liberals still think their political grandstanding and ridiculous performative virtue signalling matters.This is literally why I left the Democrats years ago. It's all performative theater to distract from how ineffectual they are.
>>517705076Fuck off. If this shit doesn't pass, it's open season on troons. You do know that, right?
>>517702809>Fettermantruly /ourguy/. the comfiest neet to ever do it. this nigga neets at the capitol like an absolute comfy chad. plus it was good to see him heem that faggot Dr. Oz
>>517702809>it looks like the dems are legitimately going to shutdown the government because they can't get illegals healthcare.Do they want to get raped in the midterms?
>>517705118That's like 50 people on the poll you retard
>>517705278I don't think you understand what polling is.
>>517705226Rent freeLmao
>>517705181So that's a no
>control every branch of government>it's still everyone else's faultRepublicucks lmao
>>517705260they probably dont plan on playing by the rules
>>517702809>Schumer shutdown Kek this is so desperate. It's the Republicans' job to win Democrats over. They control all branches so failure is on them.
>>517704991Why are the Dems blocking it then?
>>517705216>It's all performative theater to distract from how ineffectual they are.that's also why I don't pay attention to congressional hearings anymore. nothing ever happens because of them, and all that happens is grandstanding and performative absurdity.
>>5177052551 termer right there
>>517705382>>517705405why are you zoomer liberals so stupid?
>>517705405it's really the snap shutdown, since food stamps are about to be cut off to niggers and old people... again because democrats wanted to make illegals their priority, instead of americans
>>517702809>Republicans put forward bill with 0 Democrat input>"Pass this or we'll fire more government employees">WTF DEMS ARE SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT?!?!Republicans are all clowns.
>>517704100what is even the point?jews mad at jews so theyre gonna use jewish money against jewish money to put israel first?in other words its goyim theater to distract
>>517702809they should milk it. Get the SPY to dip
>>517702809they cant do anythint but make moves that will backfire from here on out. i'll give them a hat tip at the gallows for just getting it on with instead of dragging it out slowly
>>517705488theyre stupid spics that had no right being born here
rightoids already have a history of shutting down the government. only coping MIGAers desperately want to blame democrats
>>517705519it's legitimately the same funding we have now
>>517705355Apparently you don't either.>>517705260When people vote next year the only thing they're going to think about is why ground beef is $13 a pound and there's only one man to blame for that.>>517705432Because Dems believe free health care shouldn't be for Israel only
When even is the shutdown supposed to occur?
>>517703551They like it when they're in power, because they can get their media whores to pretend their spic and nigger pets are are good goys who dindu nuffin, and get easier insider trading for convenient billion dollar deals on wallstreet
>>517705226(The collective) you ain't gonna do shit except go to /gif/ to browse the tranny threads.
>>517705018Don't @ me retard you didn't even reply to the correct post.
>>517702809I know that you have anticipated my next words but with regard to the looming circumstance, I voted for this.
>republicans control every part of the government>still trying to blame democrats for the shutdown
>>517705610Free healthcare for Israel is a lot cheaper than free healthcare for beaners and niggers isn't it?
>>517702809>the jew shutdown is imminentwow that sounds principled and unlikely to change. looks like the end of the government.
>>517702809So they hang out in this room for hours during this yearly performanceDo they do anything to pass the time? Nintendo Switch?Listen to music?How about a Mariachi band? Serve nachos and tacosYou know they have these things called cloakrooms, they got a Playstation back there?
>>517705635midnight>>517705610polls are samples of voters you fucking idiot. they poll a sample of ALL voters with the same break down of party affiliation, gender, race, etc as ALL voters. what the fuck is wrong with you liberal fucking idiots? I genuinely can't tell if you're all deranged or just legitimately stupid.
>fires 90% of the federal workforce>"look what demoncraps made us do"I don't think this is gonna stick for people that have more than two braincells to rub together
>>517703543Republicans will get a supermajority of the senate. Dems went against the jew, they’re finished.
>>517705608And? Not including the representatives for half the nation in the decision-making process is not how you go about this sort of thing.And as others have said, Republicans control all branches of government right now. From where I'm standing, this is on them.
>>517705018I didn't say they didn't receive healthcare, I said that it's less than 1% of the funds, yet someone is acting like it's 100% the funds value.
>>517704610of course it would. the problem isnt the politics, its the giant mass of dumbasses that let politicians lie to them. a new party wont solve that
>>517705018>>517705030kys kikes
>>517704935Dude, after the shit I saw going down during the COVID-19 pandemic I will never vote Democrat again. You have no idea just how toxic liberals are, especially to people like me who used to be loyal Dem voters
>>517702809They need too keep the milk and honey flowing to nugget immigrants because that's the only way they will gain any loyalty to their cause. They bribe shitskins with taxpayer dollars in exhange for their vote. I would imagine they would fight back against their biggest lever to power being ripped away.
>>517705519Damn, you retarded, son
>>517705800>made usNo, if they shut it down they GET to fire a bunch of federal workers.>>517705838The GOP is favored to keep the senate but it's too early to really know how that will break down imo.
>>517705610>When people vote next year the only thing they're going to think about is why ground beef is $13 a pound and there's only one man to blame for that.pure copium
>>517705977>sage in name fieldPot, kettle.
>>517702809>it looks like the dems are legitimately going to shutdown the government because they can't get illegals healthcareWow, crap.
>>517703551That's a nuanced critique What a fucking maga, no wonder you don't get it. They want to help poors stay alive through healthcare and they're gonna let Trump fire people because it makes him look weak and vindictive.
>>517705983>they GET to fire a bunch of federal workersand when the inevitable blowback occurs they'll try to blame democrats for allowing them to shoot themselves in the foot, you colossal retard
>>517705887>>517705908>>517705939>still thinks it's politics as usualLiberals genuinely don't understand no one cares what they think. Your ideology has been discredited, and you're disqualified from being taken seriously. That was a result of 2024, then you doubled down by supporting leftwing terrorism and a political assassination. It's disgusting.
>>517702809Or, they could come to terms with what the democrats want. If not, the Republicans are going to shut down the government.Seriously, it happens all the time and both side blame the other. I hope it shuts down for the next century.
>>517705752Apparently not considering all the money the BBB "saved" on health care went straight to Bibi and (((contractors))) and (((rights organizations))) and not into America>>517705799>polls are samples of voters you fucking idiot. they poll a sample of ALL voters with the same break down of party affiliation, gender, race, etc as ALL voters.And how many of those people say they're going to vote? How many of them are still going to vote their party even if they're dissatisfied because they hate the other party more? Trump only has an approval rating of 40%, would he lose if he ran for election again?>>517706031No, you're huffing copium. People vote their wallet and not about fucking government shutdowns or Charlie Kirk or every other cope you guys come up with to avoid thinking about how pissed people will be in a year that the economy still sucks because you know what that means for your party.
>>517706102There's no federal health care for illegals its all state. Maybe Google that
>>517706136You're not american so you may not know that people VOTED for federal workforce reduction. >>517706148>ould come to terms with what the democrats wantIllegals are getting deported and not getting healthcare, sorry bro.
>>517705799>our methodology encompasses all votersLol lmao
>>517706148that means there would be no Epstein vote. i wonder which side wants that outcome
>>517705838>Republicans will get a supermajority of the senate. No chance in hell. ACA cuts kick in December 31. Spike in premiums of at least $1,300 a head. Millions have to end coverage thanks to Republicunts. Like a bug head eating nip knows anything
Why would anybody be mad about a government shutdown? Nobody even notices lol. We must have a lot of government workers here, you're all so bitchy and PMSing all over the thread lol.
>>517703875A scary sounding situation that basically just means DMV employees will have to wait two weeks to get paid
>>517706239I understand how your political system works so I know that 50% of your registered voters actually did not
>>517706216>bro, like, how many of the voters polled say they're going to votemy fucking god zoomers >>517706323liberals LOVE government
>>517706143Dismissing your opposition out of hand like this never leads to good things, you know. That's how Trump came to power in the first place.>>517706161Right, sure thing anon.
Democrats don't have the power to 'shut down' anything, since they are the minority party. Learn some basic civics, OP.
>>517702809What about the Epstein Files?
>>517704917>bunch of schizophrenia >Retarded leaf Holy fuck go get maid rn
>>517706372Liberals deserve dismissal. They support mass illegal replacement migration, anti-white anarcho-tyranny, chemical castrations of children, proliferation of crime, and so many other things that are so absolutely subversive and destructive. You DESERVE to be dismissed for being the deranged mentally ill freaks you are. And that's why there's a joint terrorism task force charged with bringing down leftwing violence.
>>517706420the republipedos are trying to hide them any which way. a government shutdown would be perfect for them
>>517706333Why do they have to wait? I mean if they’re going to get paid anyways for being out just pay them their salaries while they’re out. The opponents of the shut down could use that as leverage saying “how long do you want to keep paying people for not doing any work?”
>>517706355>Liberals love governmentSmall ideas for small minds
>>517705076even if it shuts down, you're still getting deported
>>517706403The democrats voted to NOT fund the government, the gop voted to fund it.
>>517705922It's also the intelligence agencies that "manage" our politicians with undeclared vetting processes and legalized bribery on top the likely illegal bribery that goes on.
I hope they shut it down.
>>517706523You're ascribing things no one in their right mind would believe. Or really believe of others which, you know, not great sign for the right of your mind.
>>517705498If Republicans cared about Americans, then their bill would provide more benefits to citizens.
>>517706403Stupid amerimutt, Imagine being an American and knowing nothing about the political process of your own country, wait you don't have to you stupid nigger. It takes 60 votes to pass funding bills It's 53 (R) and 47 (D) which means 6 dems need to vote for a republican backed bill.
>>517702809why would these traitorous assholes want to give illegals health care from tax money???
>>517706572I'm white GenX. Come deport me Cletus
>>517702809>OH NO A SHUTDOWNyeah yeah nigger we get it, the government takes its little paid summer break. I understand you need the theatrics for the optics but come on everyone knows what this shit is
>>517706523Whatever justification you feed yourself doesn't change the fact that you're repeating the same mistakes they did. But hey, whatever keeps you going I guess.>deranged mentally ill freaks you are. Bro I can't even vote, nor do I want to. Chill out.
>>517705435isnt that proving my point though? why would fetterman want a 2nd term? comes in neets in office for 1 term, leaves, refuses to apologize, continues to neet into retirement
>>517706674>You're ascribing things no one in their right mind would believeYes, that is exactly my point LOL>>517706708how else will they replace the current population and gain new voters?
>>517702809Why are we blaming dems for this when republicans have the majority vote? Dems literally couldn't stop them even if they wanted to.
>>517703537Based
Do you accelerationists ever consider we humans may NOT rebuild society into a better one? Be careful what you all wish for. Is it really worth the risk to accelerate societal collapse?
>>517706755>they have LE MAJORITYjesus christ clearly the discord talking points went out
Oh, so this is why the grocery store was full of shitskins with carts filled to the brim today.
>>517703658You lost tranny. Kys
>>517706143You should go look up what happened every other time the government was shut down. Hint: Republicans never, ever come out of it smelling good.
>>517706742Hope the next CVA kills him.
>>517705405Libs do be mentally retarded. Congrats on the Schumer shutdown. It will have 0 impact on anyone.
>>517706863The GOP wanted it shut down, this time the Democrats want it shut down. The side that wants it shut down rarely looks good.
>>517706863Yeah, cause they caused all of them
>>517705752at least they dont move into white neighborhoods like fucking niggers and beg everyone to feed their family since they wont do it their god damn selves as stupid dumb fucking annoying niggers
>>517706590Irrelevant; Democrats are a minority and don't have enough 'no' votes to block anything.>>517706682Completely irrelevant. Neither the constitution nor US federal law says anything about '60 votes' for 'funding bills.' All of those 'rules' are merely conventions which can be changed by the GOP at will, which means they have no excuses here.
>>517706108go be a faggot somewhere else
>>517703925>>517703875It's not bullshit, it has consequences. In federal animal research labs there will be no employees to continue ongoing experiments and no staff to even feed the animals, so they all have to be sacraficed and the research protocols re-started when funding resumes.
>>517706822This is a genuine question, what are the democrats doing to prevent the republicans from outvoting them?
>>517705519>Obamacare>utter shit>0 Republican voteNot the first time this shit happened.
>>517706796A better society already exists. It's called China.>inb4 coping and seething
>>517706350you say that as if commies are people
>>517706928>>517706956I fucking swear you zoomer liberals are just actually retarded. Do you know how many votes it takes to fund the government?
>>517706796i really don't care if 90% of the country starves to death or whatever gay shit you think is worse than what we have now.
>>517706626
>>517704902Its not for illegal immigrants, its for legal immigrants - i.e people who claimed asylum legally. It just doesn't help democrat's argument to admit that they want Americans to subsidize any kind of immigrants healthcare illegal or not, so they just say "its a lie" and then they lie saying they want to continue Obamacare for "low income Americans".
>>517707010...I do not think he knew how many votes it takes to pass this. We go through this dance all the fucking time, and it is stupid every single time.
>>517706956that is a very good question. theyve picked a strange strategy to go with, one maybe never before seen, what the left are doing to win is ensuring that everyone learns to hate them even more than they already did.
>>517706924And what does it look like when one side says "we won't negotiate at all, vote for what we want or else" and the other side says "here's what we want, they won't negotiate so weren't not voting for what they want". If Republicans were smart, they'd be pretending to negotiate at least.
>>517706796As long as nobles die or suffer it would be better.
>>517703128Why do you weasel faggots with their first job on a campaign even come here? You are going to have a job probably for bank of america in a year your nobody candidate is going to lose and you are going to regret your college career.
>>517704577>>517704161>>517705018this is amazing, seriously, why are these migger faggots so self-destructive? How do they get buck broken to this extent that they cheer on an objectively bad thing for themselves and other Americans as long as they are being told that they are "owning the libs" eating these empty platitudes up like the stunted retards they are.
>>517707091Every pedo ITT saved that
>>517707175That's what the French thought, then they got excessive mass executions followed by a dictatorship that burned itself out. One needs to actually have a plan here.
If I get dvbs then there will be a shutdown
>>517707226I don't have the ballot yet but I received a voter guide and a notice that my ballot will arrive soon.
>>517706904i respect it
>>517707284Because they're retards and want everyone else to suffer, believing that they'll have higher living standards after this.
>>517707097Many asylum seekers cross illegally and then claim asylum once they're here. Under the old "remain in mexico" plan in Trump's first term, they were sent back and made to wait while the courts determined if their claims were valid. Under Biden however, basically all illegals were rubber stamped as valid asylum seekers and distributed all over the country to live on our dime while their claims were adjudicated. IMO, coming over illegally whether it's an illegal border crossing or overstaying a visa should automatically disqualify you from seeking asylum, but the current immigration scheme doesn't see it that way.
Why would the democrats do this?
>>517707284>memeflag>>517707100And they wonder why, after supporting the assassination of someone who wanted to debate, no one wants to debate them. >>517707418Illegals are going to be deported, you have to get over it. They're not US citizens and never will be.
>>517706928To get a bill out of committee, you need a super majority of the votes. Therefore I’d imagine to change this Senate rule would also require super majority. It’s real is the only card the Democrats can play.
>>517707010It takes 50 votes according to the rules outlined in the actual American constitution. If your answer is anything other than 50, you are talking about self-imposed fake 'rules' that the majority party can change at any time. Do you understand that?
>>517707459Well now there's no one coming over the border so it's irrelevant. >>517707467>discord flaggot
>>517706626He's got a lot of catching up to do.
>>517705800> firing millions of federal workersI dont think you understand how much trump voters want precisely this to happen.
>>517707573>It takes 50 votes
>>517707573so your saying remove the filibusterwhich the democrats want?
>>517707573> If your answer is anything other than 5051
Why do govt employees think they have some God-given right to their govt job? Ppl get laid off all the time, and no one gives a shit or even mentions it on the news most of the time. But when govt workers get laid off the media reports on it all day long and the workers cry in interviews and act like how dare they get laid off, ThEy WoRk fOr AmErIcA AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!Fuck these mongoloids, I hope the govt shuts down permanently.
>>517707478if the spics were smart, which they really arent as the stupid fucking subhumans they are that wanted to say they're "black" so much, they should've sold fentanyl to the fucking niggers... then the feds wouldn't fucking bother them until they've made the stack of money the feds want to confiscate... and throw their ass in federal prison for 20 years, it's just the game, if they wanted to be american, that's how it works after they've done hard time in prison
>>517707064https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/colin-powell-thurgood-marshall-shabbos-goy
>>517704765>bring in legal immigrants on work visa>pay them next to nothing so they can barely afford food, let alone healthcare>give them healthcare subsidized by other AmericansDemocrats will do absolutely anything to stop companies from having to pay a living wage. Democrat voters are the biggest suckers alive. These politicians claim to hate the rich with their words, but in action they do the exact opposite. Then their constituents defend these actions because they think they are the good guys.
>>517702809let the tariff money cover the government. Shit, i don't care about some politician game.
>>517703265Who is the King of Maine?
>>517707478>migger keeps respondingkek, who is gonna pay for your obese momma's diabetes shot, zogbot-kun? Use your head, buddy. I know it's painful for the average mutt, but you really shouldn't cheer on the further dismantlement of an already gutted healthcare system just because Zognald tells you it's "based"
>>517707618I don't think you realise trump voters aren't a supermajority of the population>um they literally are because pol and my favourite podcaster tells me so and the pendulum will never ever ever swing backok faggot
>>517707765King, Angus of Maine
>>517702809Why the FUCK do they get free healthcare but I have to pay for my own????
>>517707808no one cares tranny flaggot
California, Minnesota, Massachusetts, Maine, Colorado, and Oregon are all states currently providing medicaid funds for illegal immigrants. Dems want to reverse the work requirement for medicaid because it hurts illegals.
>>517707711You got it all completely backwards. Job security used to be the norm in the United States. In fact, it was so prevalent getting a civil service job was looked down upon. Now the federal government is, or rather was, the last bastion of a solid middle class job that you could have for life if you wanted to. It’s more a statement of how bad things have gotten in the private sector that they’re trying to tear down these jobs as well.
>>517707618Yes because Trumpkins are all on (soon to be ending) gibs and are jealous of people with good federal jobs, healthcare, and pensions. They're the most bitter hateful rats that ever existed.
>>51770768950, because the VP is a Republican.
>>517702936Fpbp kek
>>517707924>Now the federal government is, or rather was, the last bastion of a solid middle class job that you could have for life if you wanted tothat is a retarded opinion
>>517707711they all drink from the same trough thats why
>>517707823>posts a kike that works for Jeffery epsteinWhat did you mean by this?
>>517706946i dont give a fuck about that i dont want them torturing those poor fuckers anywaysdeath to anthony fauci
>>517707613But there are shitloads of them here still that came over before. That's relevant.
>>517707948why do you liberals come here genuinely not even knowing what you're shilling for? you do know it takes 60 votes right? tell me you're trolling so I feel better about the absolute state of you.
>>517702809The US government is so useless that even when it does shut down nothing actually happens.
>>517707097>Its not for illegal immigrants>so they just say "its a lie"Probably because it's a lie
>>517707976> job security is retardedOkay
>>517707853Don't worry anon. You're not just paying for your own; you're paying for theirs, too. And now Trump, who is a traitor, is making drugs cheaper but only for Medicaid recipients. Meaning, Medicaid bums pay $0, the govt pays even less for the drugs than they were before, but the govt is using TAXPAYER money to pay for those drugs. So the Medicaid bums pay $0, the govt pays less, but you pay just as much for your drugs, if you have private insurance. And you were already paying wildly inflated prices to begin with, all so bums can pay $0.
>>517702809If they shut down Trump will use the opportunity to take a hatchet to thousands of government positions held by leftists.They don't really seem to have a winning move.
>>517702809>Republicans have majorities in the House and Senate>The house passed a bad budget>The Senate can't pass the vote bring the bad budget to the floor because of the filibuster>The filibuster requires at least 60 votes to get around>The filibuster is not a law, but just a rule>Rules can be changed with a simple majority>Republicans could just vote to get rid of the filibuster, vote to pass the budget, and then vote to re-implement the filibuster if they so choose>Republicans won't do this because they know it is an atrociously bad budget that if implemented fully would tank careersSomehow, despite having the House, Senate, Supreme Court, and the Presidency, Republicans still can't govern. OP for some reason thinks this is Democrats' fault.
>>517708003I didn't post a picture of trump. here you go
Dembros, is it over yet?
>>517702809I don't know how many more votes there will be before recess, but if there are any, they may get those Dem votes. The GOP grabbed the high ground with the healthcare for wetbacks narrative. It can't be that hard for some Dems to see the writing on the wall - this is a losing battle and it comes down to whether they want to keep their jobs.
>>517708035That's why we have 4 years of Trump to make a dent then 8 years of Vance to finish the job. >>517708093implying the only way to get a solid middle class job is to work for the government is just absurd >>517708141>bad budgetit's a continuation of the 2024 budget under Biden.
>>517707876>umm nobody cares if we have no health care safety netwhich brings me back to my previous statement: how are mutts so fucking retarded? How do you get a population to this point where they, as long as they are being told that this will make the rival side totally "seeth" they agree to rape themselves, it's the farmers' thing all over again kek
>>517707478They're not getting deported except on the TV
>>517707924Then how come when I go to the post office or any federal debt, 95% of the employees are sheboons? You're wrong. Govt jobs are just another form of welfare for blacks, particularly black women.
>>517708232>it's a continuation of the 2024 budget under Biden.And?
>>517708236if that were true you liberal freaks wouldn't be seething about deportations >>517708219the fact 3 dems already broke ranks is telling. 4 more are needed before midnight, I could see the AZ, MI, and GA senators flipping.
>>517703265If the Dems do vote for it, their own voters will turn against them for surrendering
>>517707617Duly noted. Both parties are the party of Israel. There's no getting away from it because anyone who wants career advancement in politics is required to simp for Israel. It probably also has something to do with the geostrategic location of Israel, straddling the Mediterranean coast and the Gulf of Aqaba. Having the US preside over a protectorate on the eastern Mediterranean enables the US to project power in the Middle East. This is part of why I despise both parties
>>517702809Can you burgers not just invoke some war time/crysis law and just fuck the dems vote and completely ignore it?
Happeningcels, we won
>>517708236>newest niggerlover cope just dropped
>>517708328They already voted for it, they want extra shit in it for illegals now. >>517708394And if they do it, everyone else and even some o their votes will turn against them. AND Trump will get to do DOGE cuts legally because the government is shut down.
>>517708235The average migger legitimately believes there are no white people on medicaid and even if they did believe it they wouldn't care because their politics are based completely on spite from their own miserable lives.
>>517708168Seethe. Sam Hyde works for Peter Thiel to continue Epstein's grooming network.
>>517708391given that a Dem from NM flipped this won't last longI was expecting Fetterman and King to flip, but her as well means that this can't last more than a week (its likely way less than that)
>>517708422Not for budgets no. Reconciliation is different which only requires 51 votes, this requires 60 which is the entire point of it. It's meant to enable compromise.
>>517708235This county is really that stupid because Maga/MiGA and Trumpism is malignant cancer. America's fate is Balkanization. This insanity can't be sustained forever. Voting doesn't work.
>>517708232How many other jobs in high numbers have the same job, security, health, benefits package, generous, sick, leave, and vacation, and you receive a pension? This used to be relatively widespread in the United States. Now the federal government is a dinosaur of a bygone era. The private sector wants you to believe the only way to be treated is like trash and being terrorized by your employer.
>>517702809>Democrats are trying to flush what's left of their integrityI think someone should stop them
>>517708540Damn
>>517708520>a weekit'll be too late by then>>517708484>>517708550kys before you hurt innocent people trannys
>>517708232Man you guys are going to be blaming Biden for years after he's gone and Republicans control all 3 branches of government, huh?
>>517703543>putting AOC in charge of ANYTHINGoh fuck, please let that happen. it would be hysterical.
lookner is offline, nothing is happening, zero breaking news
>>517708399I'm with Massie. I really like him. Fuck Israel
>>517707911No one can refute this. It's objectively true that the democrats are shutting down the government over illegal health care. The budget proposal includes a citizenship or legal permanent residence requirement for medicaid which is making these dems lose their shit.
Did it happen yet? Are the burgers no longer cooking?
>>517708645Biden's handlers are responsible for much of what is wrong with the country right now, but this is factually a continuation of the 2024 budget fwiw. >>517708692>in charge of she's never passed a bill lol, she wouldnt be in charge but would be loud and overthrow one of the longest serving neolibs there is. plus she has great tits
>>517708040Show us where in the US Constitution or federal law that 60 votes are required to pass a budget resolution. The only non-simple-majority votes required by the constitution are cases of impeachment, which require a ⅔rds vote for conviction. That's what the law actually says. Any references to '60 votes' are fallacious, because the majority party (The GOP) can simply change that number to 50 whenever it wants. It's entirely up to them. Do you not know this? Do you think that '60 votes' is in the US Code or somethin? It's not. It's a rule of PROCEDURE, and those are not laws.
>>517708778holy fucking shit zoomer go read something you stupid liberal fuck
>>517708263This is a result of government affirmative action laws. Before those everyone you’d meet at the post office and other places would’ve been white and usually males. For example, while I’ve never been to Europe, I’d imagine the national government employees in Germany in Switzerland are far more efficient than they are in the United States and probably the only reason is the racial make up of their employees between those two countries in Europe and the US. The summarize, you could have government employees run things relatively efficiently if they’re primarily white western European lineage males. Anything outside of that halotype you start getting a precipitous drop in quality.
>be illegal>have kids in america>dont want to be deported>sell crack or fentanyl to niggers>ICE now has to back off since now youre DEA jurisdiction>they dont care until youve made enough money to take from you and throw you into federal prison for 20 years>your spic wife and kids now wont get deported so they can visit their drug dealing wetback dad in prison>released out of prison, now youre an american citizen along with your kids and wife
>>517708848As expected, you concede defeat. I'm right, by the way. Look it up.
>>517703938If the left think Trump made an excessive grab for power upon taking office, they're going to lose their fucking minds if they get their wish and force a shutdown. Trump will shut down every single pet program of the left they're not there to protect, then move to make those shutdowns permanent.They're not going to get their wetback healthcare. The question is how much more do they want to lose before giving Trump whatever he wants?
>>517708772Yeah
>>517708772it officially shuts down at midnight, there's still time for 4 dems to flip>>517708927that's enough out of you zoomer
>>517705951Vaxx was all trump though. He was the one who authorised the human experimentationIf you were anti-covid retardation, then you had no allies only enemies.
>>517702936FIRE THEM (they will have reelection in 2026 or 2028 and might lose their job depending on their voting blocks)
No one cares
GOP has the majority they don't need democrats they're just fucking around, they have a majority in both house and senate
>>517702809Remember when this gay shit didnt happen every few months?
Shutdown is goodFire everyoneDon't hire back any lefties/browns
>>517709013if they don't they're fucked cause trump will have control of the purse and destroy why the fuck are they shutting down the government? Trump was giving budget concessions, now he won't, they aren't even a unified front for thisit feels like a lose-lose when they didn't have to bring anything up in the first place
>>517708741>MassieIt's becoming a trend now. In recent political epochs, there is always one principled "libertarian" who is allowed to call out Israeli influence without getting mysteriously killed or primaried. I think that this is a political relief valve that we are allowed to have. We are only allowed to have one, he has to be in the lower house (not the senate), and he must be a Republican. Any more than just one, and they'll get primaried, smeared, or mysteriously killed. During the George W Bush era, we were allowed to have Ron Paul, by Cynthia McKinney was one too many. I do enjoy the controlled opposition figures though
>>517709232stupid troon >>517709252they're desperate, it's their last stand for illegals
>>517708612Peter St. Onge discussed this recently. Trump could conceivably come out of this with a projected budget surplus with the kind of power he will have. What kind of game is it when the worst you can do is win big?I bet Republicans everywhere get a comfy night's sleep tonight.
>>517706755>>517706956Someone post the meme about leftists pretending not to understand.>In case you're seriousIt takes 60 votes, not 51.>>517707573Congressional procedure is bullshit, but it is in fact "the rules" and can't be changed with a simple majority vote either. Please research the issue before acting like we "don't understand" and federal law is "self-imposed" and "fake." The human condition is equally self-imposed and fake, but here we fucking are.
>>517709077>Vaxx was all trump though. He was the one who authorised the human experimentationThis is true. I didn't vote for trump. I never really liked him. The only thing about "trump" that I liked was that the people who voted for him actually had some skepticism about institutional power, which is more than I can say about today's liberals, progressives, and socialists >If you were anti-covid retardation, then you had no allies only enemies.This is very true. The fact that this observation is so high IQ is how I know you're not a leftist shill
>>517709427It's actually mindblowing the preparation Trump and his team came into office with this time. They've been implementing agenda after agenda for months now and still going. A lot of people didn't read this. They set up a JOINT TERRORISM TASK FORCE for leftwing violence AND their funding. It's really well thought out and worded legally.
>>517704006>Goytards gonna goytard.Yes
what's the hard deadline on this shit fest? midnight eastern time?
>>517709664yes, the senate is still in session though so they can vote again
>>517702809Where does it specifically say anything about getting illegals free healthcare? You Chuds are liars.
>>517709427I was worried about the polling, but given the fact the democrats aren't unified and Trump is set to gain a massive amount of power even if the shutdown lasts a single hour means it really hard for Trump to lose this.I assume Trump was being conciliatory for polling reasons, he can only really lose if the shutdown goes on for a long time which is unlikely to happen.
>>517709866>And it sets a trap for the Democrats. They could roll over and agree to all of the administration’s demands, as they did back in March. That would weaken the party further as leaders try to right the ship. Or they could refuse to give in, trigger a shutdown—what the Republicans are already calling a “Schumer Shutdown”—and then stand back to watch an awesome stripping away of their power. >Either way, the Democrats lose. It’s like an old western, where cowboys ride into a box canyon with no way out. they're fucked and don't know what to do, which is exactly how they are generally.their a leaderless, powerless, aimless dying party with a discredited ideology and unlikable people whose useful idiots are actually mentally ill.
>>517709726on the same bill that's failed?jesus christ, this will be a long night.
oh nooooo not the heckin goverino
>>517710018yes but to be fair, they already got 3 dems to flip. they need 4 more which isn't impossible and the dems that do flip will look good. I assume vulnerable dems up in 2026 would.
>>517709999The digits don’t lie.
>>517710164Dem have zero reason to comply, the shutdown just makes this administration look incompetent
>>517709555Not an American, not the most clued in on politics, and not saying they should...But can't they call a point of order that the funding bill is by majority vote, have the point of order not-sustained, appeal the decision of the chair, forcing a majority vote which - if passed - would then allow them to pass the funding bill by majority vote?
>>517710373>The result would be a dramatic, instantaneous shift in the separation of powers. Let me underline this: while the purse is empty, OMB would seize the power of the purse from Congress. The administration could choose to prolong a shutdown for as long as it liked, through poison pills in the negotiations with congressional Democrats, and comb through the government to flatted programs it’s been trying to cut. With this prospect looming, the administration has little incentive to do more than shed crocodile tears over a shutdown. >And then, when the shutdown is over, whenever the administration chooses to end it, those employees who were furloughed would come back on the payroll, with back pay, through a 2019 law. The employees who were RIFed would not. >This would be an historic—and incredible—invention of a backdoor impoundment. OMB could prevent the administration of programs it opposes by gutting the government’s capacity to administer them. The Trump team could kill programs unilaterally without the inconvenience of going to Congress. >To top it all, this would all be perfectly legal. good luck!
>>517710373On to retarded leftists and no one cares what you think.
>>517710494Sounds like everyone's on the same page then, hope this works out for you guys!
>>517710654either Trump gets what he wants, or he gets what he wants in addition to getting what he wants. I enjoy getting what I voted for.
>>517710164>the dems that do flip will look goodthat's a matter of opinion. i'd agree up until it actually passes, then the dem party as a whole are proving themselves weak.will i be shocked that the dems look like cowards, no.
>>517710018Nope. The Senate adjourned for the night a little while ago and won't meet again until 10am Eastern. Vought will be out for blood tonight.https://www.c-span.org/congress/?chamber=senate&date=2025-09-30
>>517710731yes I am aware that whatever happens will be labeled 4D chess by the same people who label everything that happens 4D chess
>>517710953
>>517710164There won't be midterms in 2026 and the GOP went home
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>>517710432No, the system is working as intended. It forces the two parties to agree to something. When the government stops working, people who rely on handouts won't get them as quickly and get super pissed off. And basic functions that no longer work will piss off the middle class. The entire point is that if there is no agreement, a pissed off population will force them to come to some sort of agreement eventually.
Why do Democrats seem to care more for illegals and criminals than law-abiding American citizens?
>>517704749there are some decent propagandists on twitter spreading that rhetoric among the nigger communities there, looks like the EBT crowd is going to be in the same position as the rest of us being forced to pick the lesser evil, and for many of them that will be Republicucks who say "apply for jobs if you want food stamps" rather than Democucks who say "if you want gibs you have to share with foreigners so we can bleed the country dry ...and save the heckin world or whatever"
>>517710953incredible. i hope we get some decent salt from democraps.
>>517703450>He is out any way....and into the oven
>>517704937oh shit if niggers cant get they food stamps then a powder keg of nigger violence and looting will start
>>517704859>dumb MIGA nigger still defending Satanyahoo’s bitch boy I’d give you a “fell for it again” award but looks like Im all out
>>517707418>and want everyone else to suffer,I just want worthless parasites like you to suffer the consequences of your decisions.
>>517704449why do i see "flags" I've never seen before?
